1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Karen, parents are forcing me to abandon my boyfriend of 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: six years. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: It's not my boyfriend all abandoned. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 3: Hmmm, So who's she gonna abandon them? 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Everyone else in her life. She's gonna run away and 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: only have her boyfriend with her, her veterinarian, her doctor, 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: her dentist, her her cousins, her favorite bakery person, everybody. 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Everybody's getting abandoned except for the boyfriend. 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: Wow, he's gonna have to juggle a lot of hats, 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 3: that's the case. 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to bake croissants while filling her cavities. 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 3: I love that, dude. It'll be tricky whenever someone has 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: to show up for like, you know, domestic abuse or 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: something like. Cut that. Jesus man, he really really really 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: shot a shot on that one. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: That one's just for you, editor. You got to cut 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 1: that or your your toast here, all right. I'll try 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: to make a long story short. I am an only 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: child and my current boyfriend and I have been dating 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: for six years, starting when I was nineteen and when 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: he was twenty. We met at a junior college where 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: we started dating, and after that we went to different ucs, 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: but within an hour of each other interesting, So they 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: went to different universities of California, I believe, which is 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: where your boy went for one quarter. 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: Gota love it. 27 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: My parents met him early on by joining us at dinner. 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Everything seemed to go well. Then soon after we went 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: to his parents' house, who live about two hours for 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: my parents, so I could meet his family. And after 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: learning this, my mom told me how hurt she was 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: that we didn't come back to see them too after 33 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: they had met together the first time. 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: I expressed that. 35 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: This weekend was just for me to meet his family, 36 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: but it was clear that she felt almost betrayed by me. 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: You got your visit, Mom, Yeah, you got it. It's 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: like a four hour round trip. 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: Drive, drive ten more hours just to see me for 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: five minutes before you go drive ten hours back home, Like, no, 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: this is this is too much mom. Fast forward, my 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: parents invite me to our cabin and my boyfriend joints 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: we take my car because it was already loaded with laundry, 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: et cetera. And after we arrive, my dad pulls me 45 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: aside and pretty much quietly yells at me how wrong 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: it is that I drove and that we took my car. 47 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: He's the man, he should be driving. 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. What your own bro. It's 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: one thing to be a. 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: Freaking sexist asshole, but to your own. 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: Daughter, like, come on, geez wow, Oh my god. This 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: started everything going forward on a sour note. The cabin 53 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: is in Tahoe. It gets cold in the winter, so 54 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: my boyfriend wore a sweatshirt with his hood up during 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm of the time at the cabin. My parents to 56 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: this day cite this as weird and rude as well 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: as a reason that they don't like him. 58 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: Was he being weird in this sweasure too? Or was 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: he just like vibing like like was he like like. 60 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: Like like like trying to like rob them, just like 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: scoping out the place, but like on the ins like 62 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: this is an inside job. 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta have the hood up. 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: Just in case I decided turn around and freaking rob. 65 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: These fool Was he like levitating on the floor like 66 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: his feet weard touching the ground, like what was he doing. 67 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: The mentor like is he trying to suck their souls 68 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: out of their bodies? 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: What's going on here? Oh my god? 70 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: As we continue our relationship, it's clear that my parents 71 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: don't like him, but they can't really give what I 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: would call good or justifiable reasons. They'll say he's just 73 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: not a good fit for the family. They don't tell 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: me to stop dating him, because they can't I'm an adult. 75 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: But they do tell me that I need to keep 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: them and him separate. 77 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: Wow. That is that is Badikes. 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: They don't want to really hear about him, and he's 79 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: not welcome at their house or cabin He's never cheated 80 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: on me, abused me, he has no drug problems, et cetera, 81 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: et cetera, nothing that a normal parent would cite as 82 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: a problem. Eventually it became an ultimatum given to me. 83 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: By my parents. 84 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, they tell me that. 85 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: If you continue to date him, eventually it will be 86 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: him or us, and you will have to choose. 87 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: Yikes, dude, it's usually the boyfriend that does that, not 88 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: the parents, right, god like. 89 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: And we've seen we've seen people with unreasonable parents and 90 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: in laws and things of that nature. But wow, yeah, 91 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: these parents really just I. 92 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: Just want to know, like, what did he do wrong? 93 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: Like did he like not close the cabinet door like Riley? 94 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: He wore a hoodie I forgot. How could you possibly 95 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: imagine the horror? I mean they turn around and instead 96 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: of seeing, you know, a human's kind face greeting them, they. 97 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: Are blocked by a wall of cloth. Disgusting. 98 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I guess I can relate unforgivable behavior, among other things. 99 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: They would tell me that he'd never be an attorney, 100 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: which is what he wanted to do. 101 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: He's a lawyer. 102 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: He's a lawyer, like bro parents are fumbling the bag fumbling, 103 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: and they insinuated that he probably wouldn't be much of 104 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: anything at all. How can you say to someone who's 105 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: like studying and has the ambition to be a lawyer, 106 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: You're not gonna be anything? Like, dude, that is like 107 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: the most like stereotypical, like path to success on landed 108 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: art that is the most tried, and it's like doctor, engineer, lawyer, 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: Like those are the three? 110 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: What are we doing here? You can't go wrong? The 111 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: job security is out of this world, Like, it's what 112 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: are we talking about? 113 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: After undergrad I started working at a financial firm. He 114 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: graduated from an undergrad at UC Berkeley and was accepted 115 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: to law school across the country. Okay, this guy is 116 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: going places. 117 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: He's making it happen. 118 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: He is he has. 119 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: Got like a undergrad and you know some sort of 120 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: law im a law degree or like you know, a 121 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: degree to set him up to be a lawyer. I'm 122 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: assuming from UC Berkeley. Like that is what is wrong. 123 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Ruly's parents. We were always very serious about each other 124 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: and made the decision to do the long distance until 125 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: he graduated and moved back to California. My boyfriend has 126 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: since graduated from law school, moved home, and took the 127 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: bar last month. He starts work this October and had 128 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: a contract since last year. They have known about this 129 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: as well. So like he's basically like he's not like, Okay, 130 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: he isn't in the big law firm job yet, but 131 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: he is, like he's there. He's making Yeah, basically there, 132 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: he's taking all the steps and making those moves. Now, 133 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: six years into our relationship, I call my parents and 134 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: tell them that we are going to be moving in together. 135 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: About twenty minutes later, I got a text from my 136 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: mom saying that she didn't want to reign on my parade, 137 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: but that this path excludes her and my dad from 138 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: my future. That they love me, but they can't be 139 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: in my life if I. 140 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: Choose to be with my boyfriend. Sorry he wore a hoodie. 141 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: He wore a hoodie. Sorry. I can't just look at 142 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: you with this lawyer and your beautiful family, you know, 143 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: being financially supported very well. I just can't look at it. 144 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: I can't deal with it. 145 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: You know what you're now? You're too focused on money. 146 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: You need to stop being so greedy. Okay, you wear 147 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: you hide from us. You you, instead of burying your 148 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: soul and opening pogaming us with open arms, you zip 149 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: up your hoodie of of of solitude and zip us 150 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: out of your life. 151 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: And now now you're. 152 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Choosing the law and money over your own flesh and blood. 153 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: Who should be your family? Like, we should be your family, 154 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: but it's it's you. You're doing this to us. 155 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: How could he? How could she? 156 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 4: You know? 157 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: This man is the most despicable person on planet Earth? 158 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: Like I hate him more than the parents. 159 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: To be honest, Oh, I told them that I would 160 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: never understand. Since then, they have sent me more and 161 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: more text messages saying stuff like we feel like we're 162 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: losing our daughter, this is heartbreaking, et cetera, and all 163 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: at the same time, including this that it's my choice 164 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: and my fault. I texted my parents that I thought 165 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: my boyfriend and I should come over and talk, that 166 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: texting about this kind of thing is stupid, but not 167 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: to be patronized or belittled, and if it turned into screaming, 168 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: then we would leave. My parents then replied that they 169 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: wanted to see me face to face to talk, but 170 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: that my boyfriend isn't allowed. We're gonna zip him out 171 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: of our lives. My boyfriend even called my father the 172 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: night of the initial we can't be in your life 173 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: text to try to talk or meet up and see 174 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: if there was a way to talk through any legitimate concerns. 175 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: My dad did not answer and respond until a week 176 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: plus later, only to text him that they never really 177 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: ever liked him and that he wants to work through 178 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: it with me alone, and it's mine and my boyfriend's 179 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: fault for not trying to address things earlier. You know, 180 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: you could have taken off the hoodie years ago, years ago, 181 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: in that cabin. 182 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: You could have said, you know what, I'm warm enough. 183 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 4: If you. 184 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: Weren't so damn cold, maybe maybe we would love you, 185 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: maybe we would warm up to you. But no, you 186 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: put the hoodie on. That was your choice. 187 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: If you could, just if you could just force your 188 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: internal body temperature to be regular when it's negative ten 189 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: degrees outside, all. 190 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: Of this could have been profected. It would have been solved. 191 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: But no, Oh my god, can we change the title 192 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: of the story to like my boy My parents waiting 193 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: to dump my boyfriend of six years because he wore 194 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: a hoodie in a cabin Like that's basically That's basically 195 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: what the story is from. 196 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: We have. 197 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: So all we have broy Yeah, they just hate him. 198 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: They're just stupid. Okay, oh wait, wait, wait Riley, we 199 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: have more reasons. 200 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 3: Oh gosh. 201 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Among other ridiculous reasons to not like my boyfriend were 202 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: Berkeley isn't a man's college from my dad. One time 203 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: in college, my professor lost my final exam, and when 204 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I found out via my final grades and was frantically 205 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: calling her to figure out what had happened, my parents 206 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: told my boyfriend, See, this is why we didn't want 207 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: her to have a boyfriend in college. They found ways 208 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: to blame him for everything. Why did you force her 209 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: professor to not send her her grades on time? Why 210 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: did you break into her professor's office and light all 211 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: of her tests on fire, causing her a delay in 212 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: grading all of her papers. 213 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: Wow, you know what? You know what, Riley? 214 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: What? 215 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: I bet he was wearing a hoodie when he broke 216 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: into the professor's office. 217 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would check out. 218 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: Case closed, right. 219 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: The only thing that ever had any merit was that 220 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: he wasn't working yet. Yes, well, this was because he 221 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: was going to school to become a lawyer, a perfectly 222 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: reason of excuse. Oh, apparently marrying someone who makes a 223 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: lot of money is a bad thing, question Mark. My 224 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: boyfriend is the nicest, most calm and peaceful person ever, 225 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: and he loves me more than anything. But apparently their 226 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: pride is more important than being wrong and just accepting him. 227 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: I guess I'm just trying to figure out if this 228 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: is normal or if it's as wrong as it feels 229 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: to My boyfriend and I boyfriend, as well as my 230 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: parents and myself, are of the same race, somewhat of 231 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: the same financial status as well. No important details were 232 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: left out, I promise, and I wanted to give objective feedback. 233 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: Please believe me. 234 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: If there was more, my parents would make it known 235 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: to me and I would have included it in this post. Riley, 236 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: we have a big fat update that we are staring 237 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: down the barrel of why we. 238 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: Have to we have to stop. 239 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: We have to take a pit stop right here. 240 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on? 241 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: Dude? I hate to be this way, but this is 242 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 3: pretty real for me because like my ex relationship, their 243 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: parents didn't like me, and this had a lot of 244 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: like the same kind of thing was going on where 245 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: they were like, we don't think he's gonna, you know, 246 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: do much, or we don't think like he's gonna make 247 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 3: enough money for you. We don't think he's gonna support 248 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: I have a family support for you. And just like 249 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: all these expectations, I was like twenty maybe nineteen, and 250 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: like I was just going through school, like I didn't 251 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: know what I wanted to do really and I was 252 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: like figuring it out. But dude, I repeat to this 253 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: bro like. 254 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: Jokes on their parents because you just became the producer. 255 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: Of the hottest new podcast in the game. 256 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: I would, but wow, I would show it to her dad, 257 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 3: but he's like pretty old, so I don't think he 258 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: knows what podcasts are. 259 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: It's like seventy yeah, right, He's like, bro, we're almost 260 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: at a million and followers on TikTok and He's like, 261 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: what's you mean a clock? 262 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 263 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: How do you how do people follow a clock? 264 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 265 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: What? 266 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: What's going through your head? Like, there's what could he 267 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: have done? 268 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're just dealing with these parents 269 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: are just completely on planet Looney Tunes and have just 270 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: invented this reason. I wonder if they're a few things 271 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: popped in mind. I wonder if if they're just like, 272 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: no one is good enough for my. 273 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: Daughter and they will just badger it. 274 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: Because think about this guy, Like, it seems like op 275 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: has like a pretty good head on her shoulders. She's like, look, 276 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: he's like the nicest, calmest guy ever. He's literally studying 277 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: to be a freaking lawyer, going to UC Berkeley. Never 278 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: treated me wrong in any respect whatsoever. So it's like, 279 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: other than him wearing a hoodie, what what the heck? 280 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: I don't even hear ick. There's no red flags, there's 281 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: no icks, there's no base flags. 282 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: Like beige flags. Oh is that a thing? 283 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah right, Wow, dude, that's a nice name for 284 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: a podcast. Beige flags. 285 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, beige flags, Dude. 286 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: I like that. 287 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think these parents are just grasping at 288 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: absolute wispy straws trying desperately to find something. Maybe maybe 289 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: they have like this like destructive tendency to just like 290 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: whatever's going on in their daughter's life or like the 291 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: big thing, they just want to mess it up and 292 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: like have a reason. Maybe they're afraid that the boyfriend 293 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: is going to come between them, and that's why they're like, hey, 294 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: here's this ultimatum, Like you either get us as parents, 295 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: which is the craziest ultimatum of all time. I could see, 296 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: I could see if he was like abusing substances, you know, yeah. 297 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: Gambling all their money away. 298 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: You know, there are times and places to be like 299 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, you tried a ton of things. 300 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get through to my my daughter. It's 301 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: not working, all right. 302 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: We got to make an ultimatum like, look, we will 303 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: be here to love and support you and do anything 304 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: we can for you, but if you stay with this 305 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: person who's like ruining your life, then we can't help. 306 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: Like extreme circumstances, the most extreme circumstances, right that is 307 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: a whole infinite galaxy away from where we are right now. 308 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: From a soon to be lawyer, sweet nice man, a 309 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: relationship of you know, seemingly no major issues of six years. 310 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the mathey mathing. It's truly not mathing. 311 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: But there's one thing that we can add to this equation, Riley. 312 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: Oh you got something for me the up day, like 313 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: my math pun there. Yeah, yeah, that was great. 314 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: So, after many hurtful texts from my parents that said 315 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: that they can't accept my partner and that it doesn't 316 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: really matter if it's a good fit for me. If 317 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: he's not a good fit for my family, then it's 318 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: never going to work, I went over in person to 319 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: meet with them and pick up my legal documents. They 320 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: made it clear that my boyfriend was not welcome and 321 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: that this was a family matter. They needed to speak 322 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: with only me about it. Clear manipulation, obviously, so I 323 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: went alone. I'm on my way and I know what 324 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: I think and how I feel. I'm very sure of 325 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: what I plan on saying. Thanks to Reddit, I have 326 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: additional confirmation that I'm not crazy or a wrong or 327 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: bad person here, but they are in fact in the wrong. 328 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, people. 329 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 3: Coming through, Let's go. 330 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: But I can see you know, like literally when you 331 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: grow up with parents and they're literally molding you from childhood, 332 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: it's so easy. I'm sure to be misguided by your parents' 333 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: complete insanity. 334 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was strange walking into your parents' house and 335 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 3: feeling like you're meeting strangers. 336 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: Kind of felt like having a twenty six year long 337 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: relationship and being broken up with via text, then having 338 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: to go pick up your crap and memories from your 339 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: ex's house, except that X is your parents. 340 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 3: It's over. 341 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: It's over, Riley, they are done. 342 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: It's like all you've ever known just like gone. You know, 343 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: all the memories you had. 344 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: Imagine breaking up with your own parents. 345 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: Dude, I couldn't. I couldn't even fathom that. Honestly, I 346 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: have a great relationship with my mother. 347 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: After about an hour of small talk, we got into 348 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: the nitty gritty convo about the elephant in the room. 349 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: A previous text that week had said, we don't expect 350 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: to change your mind. 351 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: We just wanted to talk. 352 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: But it's clear that this in person meeting was a 353 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 1: last ditch attempt to shake me from my reality and 354 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: into theirs. They came at me from every angle. He's 355 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: not a man's man, Dad said, I don't respect him. 356 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: I hate him. He's taking me away from the most 357 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: precious thing in our life. How could you not hate 358 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: someone like that? He's not a Yeah, it's not a lumberjack. 359 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 3: Here we go. 360 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 5: A real man would wear a tank top and an 361 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 5: isic tundra ho, not a jacket like a little bit. 362 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: Now it all makes sense. 363 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 3: Here we go. 364 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, even at some points my dad was physically threatening him. 365 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: What my mom was either agreeing or. 366 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: Adding little tidbits and reminders of things that she doesn't 367 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: like about him, some of which are things I mentioned 368 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: in my previous posts about when I want to meet 369 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: his family and didn't see her and my dad too, 370 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: mentioning also that she doesn't like that I made the 371 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: first move to talk to my boyfriend and not the 372 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: other way around. Just just any anything that can possibly find. Yeah, 373 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: so like just any random bs. You get the gist. 374 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: It was an all out war on my boyfriend. They 375 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: tell me I'm depriving them of a son in law. 376 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: They say he is selfish for not breaking up with 377 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: me years ago when he realized that my parents didn't 378 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: like him. They how are they depriving him of his 379 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: son in law when he literally is the son of law? 380 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? They even just started blindly 381 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: throwing out shots like I don't even know if he 382 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: has any friends, Like wtf, Mom and dad. Of course 383 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: you don't know crap about him because you've made me 384 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: keep my relationship out of earshot for six years. 385 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: But I digress. 386 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: It ends up being a three hour long conversation where 387 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: I spoke for all of about five minutes with my 388 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: heart rate at one fifty the whole time. Thanks for 389 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: reminding me, Apple Watch resident Riley. How how bad is 390 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: one fifty? 391 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: Is that? That's super high? 392 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 5: Right? 393 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: It's like basically doing CrossFit for three hours, like yeah, 394 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: oh my god, like acrossfroit workouts like one sixty one 395 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: seventy beats per minute and one fifties. Like if you're running, 396 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 3: I would say, if you're running. 397 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, just all out sprinting three hours against your 398 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: insane parents. 399 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: That's a half marathon. I do not want to run. Yeah, yeah, 400 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: it makes you running the pace of a marathon or 401 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: five k I would say, yeah, geez. 402 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: They also don't fail to mention a few other shining points, 403 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: such as, we knew you would put this on us. 404 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: That this is not an ultimatum. 405 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: We are just reacting to your choices and decisions, was 406 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: their reply to me, saying this is not my choice. 407 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: This is an ultimatum you've given me, and neither my 408 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: boyfriend or I want this. We knew you would make 409 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: us the bad guys because we're not hashtag team boyfriend. 410 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: Any of your friends and family who say we will 411 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: not come around or it will get better is lying 412 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: to you and saying what you want to hear. They 413 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: asked me why they should like or be impressed by 414 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: my boyfriend. I told them various accolades, and dad just 415 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: replied with education doesn't impress me. I took God just Riley, 416 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: We're like only halfway through this. I told them how 417 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: wonderful he was through some of the toughest times in 418 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: my life college and how he supported and kept me, 419 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: saying when even my parents were coming down on me 420 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 1: about how I wasn't doing enough, They said, that's what 421 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 1: any boyfriend would do. No, Mom and Dad, it's not. 422 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: And the two of you were certainly making me feel 423 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: worse that entire time. They said, because my boyfriend's dad 424 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: helped him get through school by paying his tuition, that 425 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: he's had everything in life handed to him. 426 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 5: Gosh, I don't want no silverstone. 427 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: I don't want no silver spoon raising my grandbabies. 428 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: How did you not get enough money before in high 429 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 3: school to go to college? What were you doing? 430 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: Right? 431 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: I bet I bet they'll put it. 432 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 5: I bet they'll put our grandson in some wimpy honey 433 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 5: when he gets cold. 434 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: It is any cold like a man baby. 435 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: I love the What the alternative to this was he 436 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 3: has so much money and student loans, how could he 437 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 3: ever support you? 438 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 4: Like? 439 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: That's the alternative to that? Right? God? 440 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: Dad said, I think your mom is having an epiphany 441 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: about who you're becoming, Like I'm some monster. They said. 442 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: We feel like you're not listening to us because I'm 443 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: not just blindly agreeing to break up with my boyfriend. 444 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: And Dad said, this kind of thing happens all the time, 445 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: as if it makes it normal or justified. At the end, 446 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: I have to break the news that in between all 447 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: of the hurtful texts and prior to this meeting, my 448 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: boyfriend and I signed a lease and are moved in together. 449 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: Nothing they were going to say it was going to 450 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: sway me otherwise, even they said that, so we had 451 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: taken the leap and made the move. The weekend before 452 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: this meeting, I commuted about twenty to thirty minutes before 453 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: the move, and my commute is the same after the move. 454 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: The only difference is we now live in the same 455 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: city that my boyfriend now a new attorney with crazy 456 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: early and late hours congrass Opie's boyfriend works in. Believe me, 457 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: I had all kinds of requirements prior to this move. 458 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: It has to be safe, have an in unit, washer 459 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: and dryer, safe parking, et cetera, et cetera. And it's 460 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: only for a year or two while we save money 461 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: so we can buy a home. Contrary to my parents' belief, 462 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: I am capable of rational decisions. Opie seems like the 463 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: most like normal rational person on planet Earth. I told 464 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: them first that we signed the lease and where it is, 465 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, to try and lighten the blow that I'm 466 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: outright disobeying them. They start going off about how, oh, 467 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: of course making it easy on him again. They saw 468 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: me always going to my boyfriend's house as me catering 469 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: to him, even though the only reason was because we 470 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: were never comfortable being together at their house. Then, of 471 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: course he became essentially banished. Yeah, how dare you get 472 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: your own space when we refuse to let your her 473 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: boyfriend come over here. 474 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Like, dude, I can't. You need to just. 475 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: Perfectly, Riley, there's a perfectly reasonable solution to all of this. 476 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: If you want to hang out with your boyfriend, you 477 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: two just have to sit on the sidewalk outside of 478 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: our house without walking through the door, and you can 479 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: be together that way. 480 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: The only way. 481 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 4: I guess. 482 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: It's like Romeo and Juliet But Romeo's parents were chill. 483 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: And Juliette's and Juliette's parents were like, why are you 484 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: wearing a fucking hoodie? 485 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, a cloak? 486 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: Excuse me, gotta be gotta be time historically accurate, a cloak. 487 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 488 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: So they see this move as me being some smitten 489 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: teenage idiot, not about how this is a relationship with compromise. 490 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: They tell me that my commute is going to be brutal, 491 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: and that I'm lying to myself if I think it's 492 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: not so. I guess that's why she was talking thinking 493 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: so much about the commune and how it's basically the same. Again, 494 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: I have already been doing it for a week. I 495 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: know it's not any worse. It's a prettier drive even, 496 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: but it's clear that I can't slowly ease into it, 497 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: and I just have to rip off the band aid 498 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: because they are straight up just wrong and trying to 499 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: convince me that I don't know what I'm talking about. 500 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: So I say, we've already been doing it for a week. 501 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: We moved in last weekend, Riley. If they didn't like 502 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: a hoodie, they're gonna love the fact that they moved 503 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: in together without telling it. They're gonna be They're gonna 504 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: be like, you know what, forget about this whole hoodie thing. 505 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: You're right, congratulations, Let's let's let's open a bottle of 506 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: champagne and have a little housewarming for just a test. 507 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: This is all the test. Could you could you imagine, Riley? 508 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: They just go like. 509 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: Daughter, We have been testing you rigorously for the last 510 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: six years. We have been denying and throwing the most 511 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: unreasonable and dumb excuses of all time at you so 512 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: that way you could be strong and stammed up to us. 513 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: Now you have done the unthinkable and moved into you 514 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: with your boyfriend, which is exactly what you were meant 515 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: to do. We support you. Let's crack open a cold one. Congratulations. 516 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: Wow, that actually might be worse because then their parents 517 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: are psychopaths. You got to stay in one lane. You 518 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 3: can't just do a one to eighty. What do you 519 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: think the reaction is going to be? 520 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: Real quick, real quick prediction every one of the comments 521 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: right now, what do you think they're going to say? 522 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: I just think like they're gonna lay into it even 523 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: more and try to do whatever they can possibly to 524 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: get her to get out of it, But like you can't. 525 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: What do you think, like, cancel your lease, move out, 526 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: pay the year. The parents are like, it is literally 527 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: it is literally so bad, Like imagine he wore a 528 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: alone with our daughter. 529 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: Unthinkable. 530 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: Pay, get an advance on your entire salary, pay your rent, 531 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: just to get out of there. 532 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: Wow, that's the prediction. 533 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah that yeah, that seems about right. Yeah. 534 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: They are just dumbfounded, loll like I thought. 535 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: You guys said you weren't planning on changing my mind, 536 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: So why so surprised that I went ahead with my choice. 537 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: My mom starts crying, my dad keeps saying, yeah, fed 538 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: up kid. It's about ten PM at this point, so 539 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: now that they know I have a slightly longer drive home, 540 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: they're kind of sweeping me out the door. So I 541 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: can get home before it gets too much. Later, your 542 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: drive five more minutes, the traffic is just gonna it's 543 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: just gonna go crazy, you know, two more miles. It's 544 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: just it's just too much. It's just to get get 545 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: out of here, Get out of here. My mom gives 546 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: me this big, sobbing hug. At this point, I've run 547 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: out of tears. I was crying throughout the entire conversation, 548 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: but at this point was just over the bs, which 549 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: you should be jikes. My dad, who rarely even tells 550 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: me that he loves me, gives me this awkward, desperate 551 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: hug that just kind of makes me roll my eyes. 552 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: I get in the car and drive home, just totally 553 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: exhausted and confused. Truthfully, they did a good job of 554 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: again making me question my own thoughts and choices. But 555 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: I got home and just start spilling everything they said 556 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: to my boyfriend. He's not surprised, but as I said 557 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: in my last post, he remains Swiss as in neutral 558 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: as freak in all of this and doesn't say anything 559 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: crappy about them. 560 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: I mean that takes a lot of My boy is 561 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: a good one. 562 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: Damn. 563 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd be uh so generous. 564 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 3: No, I'd definitely be dropping some jokes or something. 565 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: Right, at least at least letting a joke fly here. 566 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Come on, he needs to let out a little steam 567 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: after all of this freaking madness. He just holds me 568 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: close and lets me vent. Oh, he's a keeper, a 569 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: kind lawyer, Riley wife him. 570 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: Now wow, that is rare, right, yeah, for real. 571 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: Something else that came up during our lovely three hour 572 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: discussion was my anxiety. I previously shared with them that 573 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: I think they are a huge source of it and 574 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: had been throughout my childhood as well. Prior discussions have 575 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: always gone nowhere. You had it so easy. We don't 576 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: ask that much of you, et cetera, et cetera. All 577 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: we ask is that you dump your boyfriend of six 578 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: years because he's clothing is too warm. 579 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: That is literally all we want. 580 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: Is that too much to ask? Is that too much? 581 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 4: God? 582 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: So I brought it up again in this discussion, how 583 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: my parents are a huge source of anxiety and my 584 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: boyfriend is a calm rock in all of it. That 585 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that he's such a great partner. My 586 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: dad screams at me, how he never laid an effing 587 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: hand on me and how he was physically disciplined as 588 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: a child, and he just can't own that they could 589 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: have had anything to do with me being an anxious person. Yeah, 590 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: I didn't beat you as a child. Give me the 591 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 1: Parent of the Century award. 592 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 5: Please. 593 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 3: Physical abuse and emotional abuse are not the same. 594 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: Come on. 595 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: He even says you need effing therapy, Like, yes, dad, 596 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: thank you, I sure do. And also f you also, 597 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: I said I had a hard time swallowing that I 598 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: had anything to do with your anxiety. You're going to 599 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: have to work out those demons with yourself. All of 600 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: this to say, the answer you've all waited for is 601 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: that I have moved in with my boyfriend. I'm keeping 602 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: my mom and dad at arm's length, and also I 603 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: have started therapy. It's twenty six years of emotional abuse 604 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: and narcissism to unpack and learn from, but I'm working 605 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: through it. Hey, congratulations, Opie that I am truly happy 606 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: you've broken out of their freaking messed up matrix. 607 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: So that is that is awesome news. 608 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: The guilt tripping and lack of boundaries is so real 609 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: and has been real for forever. I know my situation 610 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: isn't as bad as others, and is also worse than others. 611 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: But for all of you out there in similar situations, 612 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: seek therapy. It is really a good thing. There's so 613 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: much behavior to unlearn and grow from. Even if you 614 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: don't think it's bad and that you're doing fine, see 615 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: a therapist if you can. I wholeheartedly agree your abusers 616 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: have learned behavior too. They have learned how to get 617 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: you and how to manipulate you, whether it's vindictive or not. 618 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: They have learned how to make you do what they 619 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: want and think what they think, and then they know 620 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: how to make you feel horrible about doing anything Differently, 621 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: seek counsel, and family and friends whose advice you trust, 622 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: seek therapy, and above all, trust yourself. I still get 623 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: very emotional about all of this. It's still a very 624 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: fresh wound. I mourned the relationship I had with my 625 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: mom and the one I will never have with my dad. 626 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: My health is definitely suffering at the moment and from 627 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: all the stress, but I'm working on getting my mental 628 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: health back and I know my body will follow. Breaking 629 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: the wheel is hard and terrifying. It's like being a 630 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: crate trained puppy forever and finally being allowed to go outside. 631 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: But outside is unknown. The crate is all you know. 632 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: And even though you know the crate is confining and 633 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: freedom is in front of you, it's all so unfamiliar, 634 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: uncertain and frightened. You know what's behind you, and it's 635 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: easy to want to run back to it, But no 636 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: matter what is in front of you, it's better than 637 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: the crates. The crate is not living for yourself, it's 638 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: living for someone else. So go out and make your 639 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: own life. Oh my god, hold on, she's another freakin 640 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: round of applause. 641 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: Hauh ohp wow, I'm proud of you. 642 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: Op. That was took a lot. Yeah, that she saw 643 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: through all that and she like still stayed like focused 644 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 3: and didn't like veer off to what they said. That 645 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 3: that takes a lot of courage. 646 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: And also so like, you know, I think at this 647 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: point it's totally fine to be like, hey, I kind 648 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: of can't have you guys in my life unless you're 649 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: willing to, you know, come to reality and see reason. 650 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: And it seems like she's like, I am not going to, 651 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: you know, let them interfere anymore and keep them at 652 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: arms length. Like she's still being very reasonable and fair 653 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: to them. I think I think her exact words were 654 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: something like keeping them at. 655 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 2: An arms length. 656 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, I really you know, what I 657 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: would really love to know is what the boyfriend thinks 658 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: in all of this. Yeah, because he's the one. Could 659 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: you imagine for six years? I mean, well maybe you 660 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: can imagine a little bit, but uh, for six years 661 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: of this going on and happening, Like. 662 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, it's it's tough. I have a friend that 663 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 3: is actually it just popped in my head. She's actually 664 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: going through this same thing, except for they're in the 665 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 3: doctor path and not the lawyer path. That's the only difference. 666 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: And yeah, I feel so bad because I know, I 667 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 3: know her parents, and her parents are like super awesome 668 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: and super great, but they're very like conservative, and she's like, 669 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 3: she's like on this other side where it's like, you know, 670 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 3: I'm a great person. He's a great person, Like already 671 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 3: I'm on the path trying to be a doctor or 672 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 3: something like that, and they just and she wants to 673 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 3: move in with him and they just aren't having it. Dude. 674 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 3: This is a whole nother Reddit story. But like her 675 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: dad tried to pay her money to like get her 676 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 3: to stay, but she was like, I'm not moving, I'm moving. 677 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 3: I can't do this. I feel really bad for her, 678 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: but like she basically had to do it. Like I 679 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 3: think they've stayed together the same amount of time, like 680 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: four or five years too. But yeah, wow, it sounds 681 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: so similar to what she's going through and she just 682 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 3: went through it. And it's so hard to see because 683 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 3: you know these people and like they're great people, but 684 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: like it's just beliefs and stuff they just don't ah crazy. 685 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like those parents that's like 686 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: like every most everything seems good, but then there's just 687 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: one area where you know, it kind of gets thrown 688 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: out the window a little bit. Op's parents were just 689 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: like straight straight sucked. 690 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 3: The whole way through, you know what I mean? 691 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: You know what those parents and Ope's parents should get 692 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: together and start a subreddit for how to manipulate your 693 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: children into doing what you want? Because I think that 694 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: if they started a podcast then how to successfully manipulate 695 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: your children, I mean, all the narcissists and all these 696 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: people out there would be like, this is a banger, 697 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: you gonna listen to this episode, dude. They dropped some 698 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: fire on this where guy's go go like and subscribe, 699 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. But on the real let's let's let's 700 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: let's break it down. So you know, we had Op 701 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: shout out to Op. I think she really like broke 702 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: through all the noise, seeking therapy, figuring out for herself 703 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,479 Speaker 1: what she wants and kind of like building and work 704 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: going into the unknown, like she said, with the boyfriend, 705 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: and they're probably going to have an incredible successful relationship. 706 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: I mean he's literally a freaking lawyer from UC Berkeley. Like, 707 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: what are we are talking about here? 708 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 709 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: I guess lesson of the day is, uh, if your 710 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: if your parents don't like hoodies, just just cut and run. 711 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 3: Man, just just just edit, cut it out, cut it 712 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 3: out of there. 713 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: But you know what, I don't want to get out 714 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: of Riley, what's that this episode? Because we have one 715 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: final story for y'all. 716 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: My mom lied and. 717 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: Let me believe my cat was missing for two months. 718 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: I am furious at her. 719 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 3: Am I the a whole two months? 720 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: I Mean, here's the question, Riley, what is it she 721 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: could have let her believe it was missing for three months? 722 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 3: Oh four months? 723 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: She was so kind that she was like, hey, I'm 724 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna let you in on this. I'm not 725 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: going to drag it out for a three, four, five, six, 726 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: but no, no, no, just two months. That's that's all I'm 727 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna do. It's just a prank, bro, just. 728 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 3: Just it eight weeks. 729 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 4: Wow. 730 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: And this one. It was submitted to our slash Okayop show. 731 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 3: Baby who did it? 732 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 4: So big? 733 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: Shout out to Yobi two thousand aka Little Udon, thanks 734 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: for sending in a story again. And actually, Riley, if 735 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: they want to submit a story, where can they send 736 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: it in? 737 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 3: Oh, if you would want to submit a story, please 738 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 3: go to our slash Okop show. Put in that nice title, 739 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: put in those words, and we will read it because 740 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 3: I read every single one of them. 741 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: That's right. Riley is the gatekeeper. 742 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 1: He is the man that will decide if a story 743 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 1: gets on this podcast. 744 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 3: Make me laugh and I'll put you on here. Make 745 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: me cry and I'll put you okay, take that back, 746 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 3: take that back, take the back. Don't make me cry, 747 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 3: don't make me laugh. 748 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: Fuck and and ladies, you know, if you're trying to 749 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: get on this podcast, you know, I mean, he's single, 750 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: he's he's moving to Los Angeles. So I'm not saying 751 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: put your number at the bottom of the story. 752 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 3: I am saying that yeah. Or you can even call 753 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 3: us Andrew slash text us your number and be like, hey, 754 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 3: what's good and what is that number? 755 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: John? Four four zero five zer wait six five six seven, 756 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: without further doo, let's get into the story. Nice boom 757 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: love that will loud on here, what's up? Good to 758 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: see you again, Si, I cannot seem to catch a break. 759 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: Around two months ago, my fluffy cat cash you great name, 760 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: went missing, or so I thought. I assumed he had 761 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 1: gotten through a hole in my mom's floor, and I've 762 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: spent the last two months calling out for him, hoping 763 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: he would come back. A hole, a hole in the floor, 764 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: in the floor Riley, he's gone, say what that's just 765 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: so casual, just mentioning like that, there's a hole in 766 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: your in your mom's floor, all right, just the sponge 767 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: that is the bedrock of my mom's houses foundation. 768 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 2: I would come into my mom's. 769 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: Room late at night and cry that I had failed him, 770 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: and wondering if I was just. 771 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,479 Speaker 3: A bad cat mom. 772 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: Oh, about a month and a half ago, I got 773 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: more worried because we got the hole fixed. My oldest cat, 774 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: two plus years old, is a male cat named Chyron, 775 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: also got out and I found him in our yard, 776 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: right next to the house gone. He had been poisoned 777 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,959 Speaker 1: by a neighbor down the street who began to leave 778 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: out a bowl of water with rat poison in it 779 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: to keep the strays out of his trash. Oh dude, 780 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is Oh my god. Losing chyn 781 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: devastated me, and I spent a day crying on my 782 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: mom's bed that I had failed to protect my babies 783 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: and that I didn't deserve my cats. I repeatedly questioned 784 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: if I should surrender my other cats to a shelter, 785 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: but ultimately did not because one of them is brain 786 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: damaged and three of them are black cats, so they 787 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: would not do well in a shelter. Oh man, Oh 788 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: peace a she's will udon. Oh my heart goes out 789 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: to you. My mom never said a word to me 790 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: until today for contact. About two and a half months ago, 791 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: a couple incidents occurred, and long story short, my older 792 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 1: biological sister is legally not allowed to be less than 793 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: a hundred feet away from me, nor is she allowed 794 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: to contact. Oh my goodness, well, little udon. If you 795 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: want to ever share that with us, you know where. 796 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 2: To reach us. 797 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: However, she had been holding some of my stuff hostage 798 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: in her trunk until I agreed to pay for half 799 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: of a storage unit I had zero legal claim to. 800 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 2: She and my youngest. 801 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: Biological sister dropped the stuff off while I was at 802 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: work and went to get some of my older biological 803 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 1: sisters things, which technically means she can't come back because 804 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: the judge banned her from my mom's property for two years, 805 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: aside from the one day she had to collect her stuff. Yes, 806 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: what she did to me was that bad. Apparently, when 807 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: they went to collect older sisters things, younger sister saw 808 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: Cashew and wanted him. Oh my god, put I see 809 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: you if you see what is about to go down 810 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: in the comments right now. They both made my mom 811 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: promise not to tell me, and my mom let them 812 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: take him. Oh my god, you've. 813 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: Got to be kidding me. 814 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 1: I only found out today because their mother wanted him gone, 815 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: and my mom felt. 816 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: A shred of guilt. 817 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 1: She says she did nothing wrong because she couldn't stop them, 818 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: but she snapped at me when I told her she 819 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: could have told me sooner. 820 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could have. 821 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: First of all, yes, you could have stopped him. You 822 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: could have been like, no, that's not your cat, and no, 823 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to ope about it, yeah, you know, 824 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: and be you could have told her like, hey, your 825 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: sister's took your bare minimum if they just like you know, 826 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: like no and like you know, did some covert operation 827 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: to steal with cat in the middle of the night 828 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: or whatever. 829 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 3: At least be like, yo, I'm your sister's took your cat. 830 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, especially after her other cat was poisoned. 831 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 3: Dude, you gotta you gotta like tell her these things. 832 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 3: You can't be You can't have a delay and message 833 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 3: with this kind of stuff. 834 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: Couldn't. 835 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 1: Dolly, this isn't This isn't a text you can mark 836 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: on red. Guys, this is not a freaking what are 837 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: we doing? She says she never lied to me, but 838 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: I told her she let me believe he was missing 839 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: or dead, even after seeing what losing Chiron did to 840 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: me one million percent facts like the mom knows what 841 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,720 Speaker 1: what happened, Like that's ten million times worse. 842 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 4: Uh. 843 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: She told me that she made her promise, and I 844 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: snapped at her, what kind of monster are you? That 845 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: you would let me believe my cat was dead after 846 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: you let them take him, because you promised them you 847 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't tell me, am I that unimportant to you and 848 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: that my tears and my pain mean nothing to you. 849 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 1: When I finally got back to him, she went, are 850 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: you happy now? And I said, how could I possibly 851 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: be happy? That I'm living with such a lying, empathic snake. 852 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: Damn that op's dropping the hammer, which is deserved. She 853 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: told me to shove my animosity up my ass, and 854 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: I told her to go to hell. I do not 855 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: have the money to move out right now, and this 856 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: is currently the only place I am legally safe for 857 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: my older sister for the next twenty one months. She 858 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: knows this and has told me if I want to stay, 859 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,720 Speaker 1: I need to shut my mouth and leave her alone 860 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: about it. My only option is to bite my tongue 861 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: until I can get enough money to move far away 862 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: where neither her or older sister can reach me, and 863 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: not let either of them know where I am. I 864 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 1: feel so hurt and betrayed, and the way my autism 865 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: affects me, it feels like I can't process any of 866 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: it at once, hitting me in waves, and I don't 867 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: know how to feel. She's providing me shelter and not 868 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: charging me rent until I get on my feet, but 869 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: I feel like what I don't pay in money, I 870 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: pay for with my mental health. She's hurt me in 871 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,439 Speaker 1: so many ways over time and recently, but this one 872 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 1: just feels like a dull, rusted knife through my heart 873 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know how to move past it. Oh dude, well, Oudon, 874 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: you are part of the Okay fam. Let's let's get 875 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: some hearts in the comments and maybe just take a 876 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: second to write a sweet, thoughtful message to the little 877 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: Oudon and show our love. I am so sorry that 878 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 1: you're going through this, little Udon, And you know, I 879 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 1: think even though your mom is giving you a place 880 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: to stay and is like, you know, not charging you 881 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 1: rent or whatever, I think this can often be done 882 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: as a means of like having something to hold over you, 883 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's like, hey, I 884 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: don't make you pay rent. I'm doing all this stuff 885 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: for you, blah blah blahlah blah. You know you should, 886 00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, listen to me, let me do what I want, 887 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: except et cetera. But you definitely don't deserve that behavior. 888 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 1: And yes, I think you're right. Your mom is almost 889 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: like making you pay for it with all of this 890 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: BS that she's putting you through, especially after your first cat. Mike, Yeah, gosh, 891 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: I am at least glad that she found the cat. 892 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah right, like it might be with the horrible person, 893 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 3: but like it's still alive, you know. 894 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, the cat is still alive and is with OP. 895 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: It seems at least OPI a little udon should start 896 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: like a cat a TikTok cat channel. 897 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,919 Speaker 3: Dude, dude, dude. Fun fact, I met a guy at 898 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 3: a BOS that has a TikTok cat channel like legit, 899 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 3: it's just a cat doing so I forget what it was, 900 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 3: but he had like millions of views, had his own 901 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 3: merch and like said, it keeps the water running. And 902 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 3: I was like so shocked. So what's doable? Like loll 903 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 3: udan do that? Run that up? 904 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 2: Who do you remember the cat? Can we give a 905 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 2: shout out? 906 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 3: Dude? It was so late at night. I feel bad now. 907 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 3: I gave him my number so we should talk, So 908 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 3: that's on him from not reaching back out to me, 909 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 3: because I would remember if we did talk again. But dude, 910 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,240 Speaker 3: he just missed out on the reals right there, dank Orp. 911 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: Dude, Wow, what a missed freaking opportunity right there. 912 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was just random. 913 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, Op, that's crazy though, that you would run 914 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: into a random like confluencer in the wild in were 915 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: you in Knoxville, Knoxville at a bar? 916 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 3: Wow? 917 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 2: Maybe it's the hub of cat content. 918 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I could see that that that random person 919 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: just like that, that person is the okop like what 920 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: okop is? 921 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 3: So the like Reddit stories? 922 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,240 Speaker 2: That person is that content? Wow? 923 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: Well Op, We're sending all of our love to you. 924 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: Hope to hear from you again. I know, I know, 925 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: I know, little Udon. You've send us some stories in 926 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: the past, hoping things turn around. Maybe try some cat content. 927 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: Who knows? And if any of you watching want to 928 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: submit a story of your own, head over to our 929 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: slash Okop show. 930 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 2: We would love to hear from you. 931 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: You love to share some advice or if you just 932 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: want to hear us read your story because we love 933 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: doing it. Big big O'Reilly will lift up that big 934 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: rusty gate and let you in. 935 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 3: I promise, And if you want to. 936 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: Call us, you can call us at four for zero 937 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: five zero eight six five sixty seven. Love you Little Oudon, 938 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 1: Love you every single one watching this, including Riley and 939 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. 940 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 3: Love you too. 941 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 4: This is an episode from Deep Within the Archives. 942 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 2: Time for okop relamd. 943 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: I refuse to give any of my inheritance to my 944 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: a fair baby sister to save her life? 945 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 3: Am I the a hole? 946 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 4: I mean? Is she gonna die? You know? 947 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 3: Ay? 948 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 2: She's an a fair baby sister. 949 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 6: I always like when we have these these multiple relationships 950 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 6: and like like family and friendship dynamics, I'm like, what 951 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 6: is actually going on here? 952 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll find out. 953 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, we are about to. 954 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: So when I was twenty five, we found out that 955 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 1: my father had been cheating on my mother for years 956 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: and he had a seven year old daughter with his mistress. 957 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 6: Wow, we're coming out of this story swinging. 958 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we are starting off with a bang over here. 959 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: In one split second, the happy family I knew was 960 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: completely gone, and I went through one of the darkest 961 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: times in my life. 962 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 4: Yikes. 963 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 3: Rough. 964 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,720 Speaker 1: My parents divorced and further prenup. My mother walked away 965 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: with most of their assets since she also contributed more 966 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: to the family income, and she never forgave my dad 967 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: for what he did. And never talked to him again, 968 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: though she grudgingly allowed me to have whatever relationship I 969 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: wanted to have with him. I eventually forgave my dad, 970 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,479 Speaker 1: mostly just because I was tired of carrying so much 971 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 1: anger and so much hurt in my heart. 972 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 3: I talked to. 973 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: Him, but I want nothing to do with his mistress 974 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: or my half sister, the. 975 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 6: Affair baby, the affair baby. Yeah, but you got to 976 00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 6: be so mean to the affair baby. The fair baby 977 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 6: didn't do anything. I understand, maybe being mad at the 978 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,720 Speaker 6: mistress with the affair baby. 979 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: Come on, caught in the cry, Hey, you're catching shrapnel. 980 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm shooting. I'm shooting, and you're catching trapill. 981 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: It's the affair baby. 982 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 6: It's John hates affair babies. John likes to shoot trapnel 983 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 6: into affair babies. 984 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 4: You heard her hair first, Folks. 985 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: In twenty years, there's gonna be like the whatever Twitter 986 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: is in the future, and it's to be like John Fry. 987 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 3: Like shooting babies. 988 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 4: Want him to be. 989 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 6: Your next Say. 990 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: No to John Frod's right baby shooter, baby shooter. My 991 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: mother passed away last year and left me everything. She got, 992 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: all of her inheritance, her money, her real estate assets, 993 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: her business. 994 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,280 Speaker 3: Which I now own and operate. 995 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 6: Whoa, Like we're talking assets assets over here, and like 996 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 6: the mom was the richer of the two, so she. 997 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: Came had fat assets, fat oh jiggly acids. 998 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 3: But doing good doing. 999 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm in a relatively comfortable financial position while my dad 1000 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: is getting by. 1001 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 4: Yikes. 1002 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 6: Daddy's poor, hey, but at least he's got his mistress. 1003 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 3: Now he's he's got his mistress and he's got his 1004 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 3: a fair baby. Yeah, he's good to go. 1005 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 6: He's young at heart and in the wiener got that 1006 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 6: young dick, that. 1007 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 2: Young cock. 1008 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 3: All right. 1009 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,240 Speaker 4: Uh. 1010 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: He was never a good businessman on his own and 1011 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: has lost a lot of money on businesses that just 1012 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: later went belly up. 1013 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 4: Yikes. 1014 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: This year, my half sister was diagnosed with a life 1015 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: threatening illness and she has been in the hospital for 1016 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: the last four months. The bills are mounting, and my 1017 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: dad came to me for help because they're now in 1018 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: a situation where they are finding it difficult to come 1019 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,720 Speaker 1: up with the money for my sister's treatment. 1020 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 4: Oh geez. 1021 00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 6: So basically, like if she doesn't get treated, then she dies, 1022 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 6: That's what it's. 1023 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 3: This is a really, really, really really really tough situation. 1024 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: The thing is, I don't want to use my mother's 1025 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: money to pay for the treatment of the child her 1026 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: husband had with this other woman, even though it's not 1027 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: my half sister's fault. I like how she keeps saying 1028 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: like half sister, half sticking it in. It feels so 1029 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 1: unfair when I think that the money worked so hard 1030 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 1: for all her life will go to a child that 1031 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 1: neither my mother and I have any responsibility towards, and 1032 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: the very same child of the man and the woman 1033 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: who hurt her so so much. I'd really rather use 1034 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: it to grow her company and let my dad and 1035 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,280 Speaker 1: my half sister's mother figure out how to get money 1036 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: for the treatment. They are her parents after all, And 1037 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 1: the only thing tying her to me is my father 1038 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: saying she is your sister. And if she dies because 1039 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,040 Speaker 1: she doesn't get the treatment she needs, would you be 1040 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: able to sleep at night? 1041 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 6: So the question is some emotional manipulation right there, the 1042 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 6: massive emotional minus. 1043 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 3: So the question is am I the a hole? 1044 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:12,720 Speaker 4: Oh god? 1045 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 1: This is this is one of the one of the 1046 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: hardest because it's so cool. 1047 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 4: It's like the trolley problem. 1048 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 6: It's like, you know, right, like if you don't pull 1049 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 6: the switch, are you still are you murdering someone? Even 1050 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 6: though you know, like, well. 1051 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 1: Except this, no, no one's the trolley one is like 1052 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: you like, what does it kill like one unhealthy person 1053 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 1: or three healthy people or whatever? 1054 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 4: That is? 1055 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 6: Uh this, but it's like there's also the other trolley 1056 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 6: problem if it's like if if you like, yeah, so well, 1057 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 6: but you're there's that way if you kill like one 1058 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 6: or ten people. But it's like if you move it, 1059 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,720 Speaker 6: are you still are you now responsible right for killing 1060 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 6: the one person right right? Whereas if you just let 1061 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 6: it go, you're killing ten people. But but you're also 1062 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 6: I guess you're also responsible because you have the power too. 1063 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 6: But basically like OPI has the power to save a life, 1064 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 6: and it's like do you do it? And are you 1065 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 6: morally responsible? But on a also in a darker note, 1066 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 6: like everyone kind of has the power to save a life, 1067 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 6: like every day, like if you donate to like one 1068 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 6: of those malaria foundations, yeah you could literally you could 1069 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 6: literally save a life today today right now. 1070 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 4: It sounds like we're doing it. 1071 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 3: H It literally sounds like we're doing it. 1072 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 6: Infomercial where it's like five cents can save this child, 1073 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 6: give water for a gear for this child. 1074 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: Literally, dude, this yeah, it's this is I think one 1075 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: of the toughest like moral quandaries we've had on the show, 1076 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,320 Speaker 1: Like it's it's either way is kind of super fucked 1077 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: because honestly, she is I get the situation, and I'm 1078 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: not saying that she's totally responsible for her, but that 1079 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: is her half sister, so it's not like the only 1080 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 1: thing tying it to her is the dad's like words, 1081 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: she is related to her, Yeah, which doesn't necessarily mean anything, 1082 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean nothing. 1083 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it there, there's definitely ties, and I think 1084 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 6: like as fucked up as you know, Like the dad's 1085 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 6: question is like are you gonna be able to live 1086 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 6: with yourself? Like I think that's a valid question, right, Yeah, 1087 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 6: Like it's like, don't do it for anyone else? Right, 1088 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 6: do it? Like will you if you don't do this, 1089 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 6: will you regret it? Will you be able to live 1090 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:15,320 Speaker 6: with yourself? 1091 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1092 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 6: And if you're like, fuck, if I care, I don't 1093 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 6: really care, then maybe maybe that's that that that tells 1094 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 6: you something. But if you actually look at it and 1095 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 6: are like, man, maybe I will regret this, then then 1096 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 6: you probably should should help. 1097 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: I would, yeah, Like I feel like Op knows what 1098 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 1: she wants to do, but like I would just be lost. 1099 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 6: And it's also like, you know, you're you're kind of 1100 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 6: going against your mother's memory too, you. 1101 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,320 Speaker 3: Know, in in what way? Oh, by by doing it, bye. 1102 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 6: By giving, by giving, like if you were to give 1103 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 6: all this money away, right, you're you're. 1104 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 3: To the affair baby. 1105 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, I think there's I actually do 1106 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,439 Speaker 6: think there is a middle ground here, Like I think 1107 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 6: I think what what Op could do is she like 1108 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 6: like I feel like Op is framing it like she 1109 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 6: to help her dad and this affair, baby, she has 1110 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 6: to give away the entire fortune. Yes, yes, and I 1111 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 6: can't imagine that's true. But even if it is, let's 1112 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 6: say it is. H Yeah, I think the middle ground 1113 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 6: is like like here, let me let me give you 1114 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 6: like twenty five like fifty K to keep going. But 1115 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 6: she doesn't have to sell the business to yeah, or 1116 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 6: sell the real estate or anything. Yeah, maybe she could. 1117 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: What she probably should do is like, look, in order 1118 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: to get this amount, you need to like you know, 1119 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 1: start a go fundme, like get like figure out figure 1120 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: out the absolute most the both of you can do 1121 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: with this. I'm gonna give you this amount once you 1122 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,919 Speaker 1: get all that, like the gears running, and then I'm 1123 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: out Like this, this is not my responsibility or problem. 1124 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 6: So but yeah, but I do want to, like, I 1125 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 6: do want to help in some way, So yeah, I 1126 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 6: don't want to just leave her defensive. So but damn 1127 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 6: complicated situation. Yeah, for sure