1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Welcome into real America's voice News. This is Sunday the 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Road Forward, a word of hope and encouragement for you 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: in these dark, troubled times. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll be your host. 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: This week, we witnessed the horrific events unfold in aorum, Utah, 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: where my dear friend, a much beloved Christian faith leader 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: and national conservative voice for our time, Charlie Kirk, was 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: assassinated while addressing a large crowd of several thousand college 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: students at Utah Valley University. The event shook our world 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: as we hear in America, and people from both sides 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: were coming out immediately to express shaw core pain and anger. 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: We're going to take a look at that today. I've 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: been sitting pretty much throughout the weekend continuing to watch 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: the news and the fallout of the horrific and evil 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: assassination of Charlie Numb. I'm deeply saddened. I'm pretty angry 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: about it all. He was an amazing man, a man 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: after God's own heart, who loved his country, his amazing wife, 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: and his children dearly. He really cared about being a 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: great dad, and he stood strong for righteousness and culture. 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: I respect that in Charlie. One thing I think we 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: can all do, I don't care what side of the 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: owl you're on, is pray earnestly for his family, for 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Erica and his children. Charlie's going to be sorely missed. 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: Thank God, by the way for the promise of heaven, 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: of eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord, Charlie's faith 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: now his sight. Our special two special guests today this 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: week to discuss this tragic death of Charlie Kirk. That 28 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: are with me, Elizabeth Johnson and my friend Gary Bauer. 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: And then later we're going. 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: To switch gears as I visit with the President and 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: CEO of NRB. The National Religious Broadcast is Troy Miller 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: about the division and violence in our country. 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: He's also going to. 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: Touch on another act of violence, the stabbing of a 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: young immigrant in Charlotte, North Carolina, captured on security cameras, 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: and the subsequent public betrayal, the outcry too of all 37 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: of this. Troy unpacks also some new Barnus Survey results 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: that may give us some hope about today's generations. Finally, 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a little perspective on biblical prophecy implications 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: of what might be happening in the Holy Land and 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: the Middle East right now. Thought leader, spiritual guide and 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Jewish follower of Yeshua Jesus. Rabbi Jason sobles with us. 43 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: You know again, these are troubled times. My heart aches, 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: but we press on and we press in. Let's get started. 45 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,559 Speaker 1: Thanks for watching. 46 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: Him, Chris. 47 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: Sworthy. 48 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 5: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim 49 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 5: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a 50 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 5: part of your life. 51 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: Join us now. Is Elizabeth Johnson. 52 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: She's a Christian conservative speaker, grass roost, mobile aser, author, 53 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: host of the Elizabeth Johnston Podcast. She's a homeschooling mother 54 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: of ten, champion for all things that protect our children. 55 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: She's become a powerful voice on issues affecting families and 56 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: people of faith. She's been featured on Fox and Friends, 57 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: New York Times, The Blaze, Christian Broadcasting Network, and more. 58 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Elizabeth, thank you for joining me. 59 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 6: Hi Tim, good to see you again. But a really 60 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 6: tough week to be on the program. 61 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: You know what, a shocking, sobering and I'm gonna add 62 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: very sad week in America. Senseless, horrific, evil, cold blooded murder, 63 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: of Arana Zarutska and now you and I we were 64 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: together when we got the news by the way of 65 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: our friend Charlie Kirk. 66 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: And Elizabeth, I you know, I've been. 67 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: Overdosing, I guess, probably on the news channels, just watching everything, 68 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: sitting alone, reflecting. I know Charlie was a really good 69 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: friend of yours, certainly was a good friend of mine. 70 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: And it's just stunning, Zabeth, what's happening to us? What's 71 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: happening to us? 72 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 6: We have lost our soul as a nation, and we 73 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 6: need a spiritual awakening. 74 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: For sure. 75 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 6: The Lord has promised us in Second Chronicle seven fourteen, 76 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 6: if we will humble ourselves and pray and repent, that 77 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 6: he will forgive our sins and heal our land. And 78 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 6: so although there are policy issues that we need to address, 79 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 6: we cannot ignore the fact that we are in a 80 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 6: spiritual crisis in our nation and that no amount of 81 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 6: gun laws or anything is going to fix the spiritual problem. 82 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 6: And Irena was murdered in cold blood right here in 83 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 6: our city, in Charlotte, North Carolina. And I just feel like, 84 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 6: based upon that and what has just taken place with 85 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk, that the younger generation is hurting. They are 86 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 6: reeling right now, but they are all so ready I 87 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 6: believe to go all in for Jesus Christ. So I 88 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 6: believe this is a pivotal moment. But we are grieving. 89 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 6: We are grieving right here in our city as well, 90 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 6: because of this senseless murder of Irena. And it's been 91 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 6: a tough, tough two weeks here in Charlotte, North Carolina. 92 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: Elizabeth she I have this image of her sitting in 93 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: that chair with her feet up in the up close 94 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: to her chest, cowering basically in fear. She's looking up 95 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: and has no idea what just happened. But when I 96 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: when I think about what type of a person does that? 97 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: And a lot of people we talk a lot about 98 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: mental health related issues. Let me say something here. That 99 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: is horrific senseless evil. 100 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: That's what that is. 101 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: That's evil. That's of the worst sort. I don't care 102 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: how you want to describe it. 103 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: It's just cold. 104 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Blooded, murderous evil, that's all. It is sickening. And that 105 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: that picture of her, she is everybody's daughter, is who 106 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: she is? 107 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: You know that? 108 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely? And may we never forget her or her name. 109 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 6: I have a teenage daughter today, that wanted to drive 110 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 6: to hobby lobby and on her own decided that she 111 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 6: would not do that because she's feeling uneasy today. And 112 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 6: I will say, as a citizen of this city that Charlotte, 113 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 6: North Carolina has become overrun with leftist policies and politicians 114 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 6: and magistrates. And when you realize that the man that 115 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 6: murdered Irena had already been arrested fourteen times tim and 116 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 6: had been released by a woman who was not even 117 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 6: a trained lawyer, trained in you know law. She was 118 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 6: a magistrate that could become one without being a lawyer, 119 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 6: and believed she was one of the last ones to 120 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 6: release him from prison. And this man should not have 121 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 6: been free. And it is the result of. 122 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: A sick society. 123 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm telling you of a sixth System's that the system 124 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: has failed her? 125 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: Is what happened? You know that. It's ridiculous. I mean 126 00:07:59,280 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: part of me. 127 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: And again this is the fireside coming up saying what's 128 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: the matter with us? Well, why aren't we finding our 129 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: way here? Let's find our voice back. Somebody needs to 130 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: get up and start speaking. Let's go to Utah Valley 131 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: University and our buddy Charlie Kirk, the image of him, 132 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean seated in front of that electric cloud. I 133 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: mean crowd somewhat three thousand kids packed out, their college kids. 134 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: He was just going and say, hey, let's talk about it. 135 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Let's just talk about the issues, Let's have dialogue together, 136 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: Let's get to truth, let's figure that piece out. Charlie 137 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: was a thirty one year old dad married to Erica. 138 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: He loved her, he loved being a daddy. He loved 139 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: those college kids, and he loved having conversations Elizabeth. Yeah, 140 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about a political assassination. We're talking about evil 141 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: of the worst sorts. We're talking about darkness that's so 142 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: dark and vile. I mean, that's just unbelievable. The animus, 143 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: the hatred and culture. And then to see I know 144 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: there was a lot of people posting about Charlie and 145 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: he haven't so much love in our country. 146 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are other. 147 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: People up there sick, just sick people celebrating, dancing whatever. 148 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: I mean, it's unbelievable, it truly is. 149 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 6: And you know, here they are on a college campus, 150 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 6: which is supposed to be the ideal place for the 151 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 6: free exchange of ideas. Right, this is what college campuses 152 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 6: supposedly pride themselves in. And Charlie would wake up every day, 153 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 6: whether it was on his program or whether it was 154 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 6: on college campuses, and he would walk straight into the 155 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 6: fire to talk about Jesus Christ, to talk about family, 156 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 6: to talk about freedom, to talk about identity and the 157 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 6: importance of you know, not allowing lies to permeate our culture. 158 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 6: He would stand for truth and for righteousness and quote 159 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 6: scriptures and just skillfully defend the veracity of the Word 160 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 6: of God. That's all this this young man was doing. 161 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 6: But he was a threat, and he walked into the 162 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 6: fire every day. And now it is profound to realize 163 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 6: that he is standing in the presence of the fourth 164 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 6: Man in the fire as we speak. But I believe 165 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 6: the biggest question before us now, tim is what are 166 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 6: we going to do? How are we going to respond? 167 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 6: In John twelve, Jesus said, truly, I say to you, 168 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 6: unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, 169 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 6: it remains alone. But if it dies, it bears much fruit. 170 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 6: And I think we have a question before us today. 171 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 6: You know, Charlie has died, and I believe his life 172 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 6: will be a seed for spiritual awakening, that people are 173 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 6: going to wake up out of this slumber of just 174 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 6: like living for ourselves and begin to realize that life 175 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 6: is a vapor, it is short, and we must live 176 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 6: for eternity. And are we going to live in love 177 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 6: and true like Charlie did, or are we going to 178 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 6: live in hate like his shooter did? And Martin Luther 179 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 6: King was always very clear, even though he was facing 180 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 6: the death threats, even though he was facing his own 181 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 6: people being bludgeoned and not being allowed to vote in 182 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 6: all of those things, he was very clear that violence 183 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 6: is not the way and that needs to be the 184 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 6: message for us as well, that love and truth and 185 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 6: peace is the only way. 186 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: Pretty famous quote by Charlie was this. The reason free 187 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: speech is important is because if we have free speech, 188 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: it allows us to get to the truth. 189 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: I like that a lot. That's what it was all about. 190 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: And if we can't have that. 191 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: And by the way, trauma and when you go through 192 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: these kind of experiences, what it does is that shuts 193 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: down your voice. Trauma tries to rid your sense of safety. 194 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: Its silences is what it does. You know that it 195 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: makes people cower. Oh yeah, Elizabeth, you're you're a homeschooling 196 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: mom of ten. Uh I know you you're pretty fiery, 197 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: you've gotta you've got a voice, You're you're not You're 198 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: not timid. 199 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: But what do you say to your kids? 200 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, what do you? How do you how do 201 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you encourage them? And how are you encouraging the people 202 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: around you in the platform God's giving you to not 203 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: lose their voice in this. 204 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 6: I'll take exactly what I'm saying. I was in young 205 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 6: adults last night, and I'm a young adult leader in 206 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 6: my local church, and we were saying to those young adults, 207 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 6: you have one life. Are you showing up for that life? 208 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 6: Are you making your life count for something like Charlie did? 209 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 6: I I told those young adults last night, I said, 210 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 6: I thought about that shooter, and I thought about how 211 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 6: many times we have walked by people like that shooter 212 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 6: and not ministered the gospel. Are we using this life 213 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 6: that we have, this short life, which is such a 214 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 6: vapor to minister the gospel of Jesus Christ to the 215 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 6: broken people around us? Are we taking our time and 216 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 6: using it wisely too fast to pray and to bring 217 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 6: action to minister the gospel. I know that my kids 218 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 6: and I we do outreach out on the streets not 219 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 6: only in front of abortion clinics, but on some weekends 220 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 6: we are out in some of the darkest places of 221 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 6: the city where there are homeless people and drug addiction everywhere, 222 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 6: and we are loving on these people. We are ministering 223 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 6: the Gospel and trying to snatch them from the pit 224 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 6: of hell. It is high time that the Body of 225 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 6: Christ begin to use the life and the breath that 226 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 6: we have been given and take this seriously and minister 227 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 6: the gospel and snatch people out of hell, because that 228 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 6: is where people are headed. This morning, I was on 229 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 6: a blanket with my children outside in the beautiful North 230 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 6: Carolina weather. We were having a picnic, and I was 231 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 6: reading the Word of God to them, and I was 232 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 6: reminding them of what this life is all about and 233 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 6: how we've got to make it count. I was showing 234 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 6: them reels from people like Bryce Crawford who said, now 235 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 6: is the time to not shrink back in fear. It 236 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 6: is the time to rise and be a bolder voice 237 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 6: than we have ever been. That is what Charlie would 238 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 6: want us today. 239 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: God help us to do that. We need a new 240 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: breed by the way, willing to stand boldly and courageously. 241 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 6: Yes, especially in my kids are some of those for. 242 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: Righteousness and culture. And God be with us. Elizabeth Johnston, 243 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: what a delight to have you. 244 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me. God bless you. 245 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: Tim coming up next, President of American Values and Senior 246 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: Vice President for Public Policy the Doctor James Thopson Institute, 247 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: Gary Bauer is back with us. 248 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: Hi. 249 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: Everyone, I'm doctor Tim Clinton. And you know how important 250 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: this is. It's my phone, it's my lifeline. It connects 251 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: me with loved ones and business throughout the day, keeping 252 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: informed about the world around us. And that's why my 253 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: self service and data they're so important to me. 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Bauer served in President Ronald 284 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: Reagan's administration for eight years as Under Secretary of Education 285 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: and Chief Domestic Policy Advisor. Today, he serves as president 286 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: of American Values, an educational nonprofit organization out of Washington, DC, 287 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: and he's senior vice president of public Policy for the 288 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. 289 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: Gary, welcome back, Thank you for joining me. 290 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: Thank you Jim. 291 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: Gary. 292 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: I guess as we get started here, the shocking breaking 293 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: news I think has stunned us all. But basically, Gary, 294 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: the world stopped, at least for me this week Utah 295 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: Valley University. Charlie is out there doing what he does best, 296 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: engaging young minds, having thoughtful discussions and yeah, thirty one 297 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: years old. The video on social media has been horrific. 298 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: What exactly happened there taking the life of our dear friend, 299 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. Gary, I know you knew him well, as 300 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: did I, and I want to reflect on his life 301 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: for a few moments. But I guess, you know, basically 302 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: had a loss of words. I mean, Gary, this violence, 303 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: garbage stuff. You know that this murderous. I mean that 304 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: was a political assassination. We're talking not horrific. We're talking 305 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: evil of the worst sorts. 306 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: You know that. 307 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: We're talking about a man who I know him, Gary. 308 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: He wanted to be a great dad. I've had many 309 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: conversations with Charlie about being a great dad and a 310 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: great husband. He cared about his relationship with God, he 311 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: earnestly did. And the nation, I mean the nation has 312 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: just reacted, I mean overwhelmingly stunned at what's going on. 313 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: Gary. Just some lots of reflections I guess from you. 314 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I like you, Tim. I was stunned when 315 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 4: I first heard the news. Somebody on my staff came 316 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 4: in and said, I just saw a report that Charlie 317 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 4: Kirk was shot. And I said, well, said a number 318 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: of things, but I said, look, look, we can't we 319 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: can't report that unless we can nail it. That it 320 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 4: sounds like some kind of you know, insane rumor or whatever. 321 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 4: But then within minutes news outlets began to report it. 322 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: And I have to be honest with you, Tim, I 323 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 4: mean obviously I was heartbroken immediately, but I also immediately 324 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: felt anger. I am sick and tired of this. Anybody 325 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: in our country that argues for normalcy. There are two genders, 326 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: men and women. The best path the happiness in life 327 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 4: is to men and women to marry and oh shocking, 328 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: bring children into the world. He was saying those things, 329 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 4: and those things made him to the radical nihilistic left 330 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 4: that has a big presence on our university campuses and 331 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: in our culture. To them, that made him a monster. 332 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: That was somebody to them that had to be erased. 333 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: And I know you've seen it. I've tried to stop looking. 334 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 4: It's not only that he was killed by those forces, 335 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: but in the aftermath of it, the people celebrating it. 336 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: I mean, people sick. 337 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: Is sick, Gary, What in the world has happened? 338 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 2: To come? 339 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: Let us reason together? Why can't we just come and debate. 340 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: It's okay to disagree, it's okay to come together and debate. 341 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: What has happened? It's like cancel each other. It's ridiculous, Gary, 342 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Charlie, by the way, wasn't he wasn't a 343 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: violent man? 344 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 4: Oh no, No, the exact opposite. I mean, look, this 345 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 4: is what America is supposed to be. 346 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 5: Right. 347 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 4: He would go on to a university campus, which generally 348 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: are owned by the left, and he would say, prove 349 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 4: me wrong. Let's have a debate. You know, if you 350 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: can out debate me on some of these issues, I'll 351 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 4: admit I'm wrong. And periodically Charlie Kirk would say, you know, 352 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: that's a good I hadn't thought of that. This is 353 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 4: what the country's supposed to be. This is what the 354 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 4: founders believed in, that open and free debate never hurt truth. 355 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 4: Truth always wins out if there's free and open debate. 356 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 4: Even at this last debate he engaged in, there was 357 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: a group from the LGBTQ movement on campus and they 358 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: were somewhat back in the crowd waving the flags, and 359 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 4: he saw them and he pointed over them and he said, 360 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 4: come on up, move on up here, so I can 361 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 4: hear what you're saying. Let's have an exchange. And that's 362 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: what he did regularly. That's what we ought to be doing, 363 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: the freedom of speech, the freedom of assembly. I believe 364 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 4: I'm right about this. He was actually wearing a T 365 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: shirt that said freedom. And you know, Tim, most of 366 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 4: us love freedom. But there's an element in our society 367 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 4: on the left now that is threatened by freedom, that 368 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: hates freedom is not one debate and will do anything 369 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: they can to stamp it out. And I'm I'm I 370 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 4: pray about this. I know you do too, but I 371 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 4: think we're facing irreconcilable differences, and the implications of that 372 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 4: are terrible. 373 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: I go to that senseless, horrific, evil, cold blooded murder 374 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: of Arena Zarutska there on that light rail train in Charlotte, 375 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Still shaking my head. I can see the 376 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: image that will be forever etched in my in my brain. 377 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: Really at this little girl. 378 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: She's every every every mom and dad's daughter curled up, 379 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: you know that on that train with this murderous evil man, uh, 380 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: just putting a knife to her. Gary stuff makes no sense. 381 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: It just it's just stunning to me. The media ridiculous, 382 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: the mainstream media silent. What's happened to us in our country? 383 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 4: Then this is It's been a bad week for America. 384 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 4: It's a bad week for the soul. As you pointed out, 385 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 4: we started the week with the killing of that young 386 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: woman and the images on that train everybody saw, as 387 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 4: you indicated, you know, I've got two daughters, I've got 388 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: four granddaughters. I'm married. Of course, this is the fear 389 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: of every husband, of every father, that this mindless violence 390 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 4: that we continue to see around the country. And it 391 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: was so obvious that the media wanted to spike this 392 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 4: story because it didn't fit the narratives that they like 393 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: to promote. And then when outlets like yours and others 394 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 4: brought it to light, they blamed conservative media for exploiting 395 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 4: the deaths that they were not going to report if 396 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 4: it wasn't for conservative media. And then some of the 397 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 4: things that were said in the aftermath of all of that. 398 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 4: You know, this is this is insane, and it really 399 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: is a reminder of the spiritual war that the country 400 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 4: is in the middle of. And of course, again the 401 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: week began with the focus on that, and then it 402 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 4: went on to what happened to our dear friend Charlie Kirk. 403 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: I guess I want to close this segment Gary, by 404 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: reading President Trump's post on true social the great and 405 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead. No one understood or 406 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: had the heart of the youth in the United States 407 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired 408 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: by all, especially me, the President said, and now he's 409 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: no longer with this Malania and my sympathies go out 410 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: to his beautiful wife, air Erica and family. And he 411 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: closed this way, Gary, Charlie, we love you. Gary, give 412 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: us a word as we look to the road forward. 413 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 2: How do we navigate Bec's. 414 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 4: Well, we have to keep praying, obviously, but prayer without 415 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 4: action is worth nothing, So I would I want to 416 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 4: make sure, and I know you do too, that these 417 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: events don't cause fear, don't cause people to get under 418 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 4: their desk or under their beds and say stay away 419 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 4: from me. I'm afraid our reaction to this ought to 420 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 4: be first and foremost for the Church in America to 421 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: wake up. There is not a problem facing this country 422 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: that can be solved without the active involvement of the 423 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 4: church and of Christian citizens. I don't want to hear 424 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: one more pastor the rest of my life say Gary, 425 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 4: I don't get involved in politics. It's not politics. It's 426 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 4: a battle for the heart and soul of the America, 427 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: and it's about we must win. 428 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: Gary, I'm with you. I think those those days are over. 429 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: It's time. It's time to speak up and stand strong together. 430 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: Gary Bauer, what a delight to have you. 431 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me, my friend, God bless you. 432 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: Jim coming up next, he's the president and CEO of 433 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: NRB National Religious Broadcasters. 434 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: Troy Miller is with us. 435 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 5: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim 436 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 5: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and x we love being a 437 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 5: part of your life. 438 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: Johnny is now as Troy Miller. 439 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: Troy's the president and CEO of NRB National Religious Broadcasters, 440 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: an organization that equips Christian communicators to share the gospel 441 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: with excellence on radio, television, and digital platforms. 442 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: Troy, welcome back. Thank you for joining us. 443 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 7: Damn, it's great to be with you again. Thanks thanks 444 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 7: for having me. 445 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: So I wanted to open up and go back to 446 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: some research that you did with the Barnet Group, and 447 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: it was entitled the State of Christian Media. It's so 448 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: intriguing to me to find out what God's doing in 449 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: and through Christian media. Share with us some of the 450 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: results that you guys found. 451 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, So just some of the highlights here. One of 452 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 7: the things right off the bat was sixty percent of 453 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 7: Americans engage with Christian media in some form, and that's 454 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 7: the general population of the country, not just Christians, sixty 455 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 7: percent of the general population. And besides, inside of that, 456 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 7: the gen Zers were the highest at sixty four percent. 457 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 7: Right behind them was the Millennials gen Y with fifty 458 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 7: eight percent. So, yeah, Christians are engaged, and not just Christians. 459 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 7: America is engaging with Christianity. Today. 460 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: So I also saw that it's formative. In other words, 461 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: it actually impacts worldview values and so much more. 462 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 7: Which was which were the top reasons why they wanted 463 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 7: to engage And when we asked them why, what's the purpose? 464 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 7: What's driving your engagement? They said, Look, two things were 465 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 7: right off the top with hope and encouragement. They were 466 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 7: looking for that, which is a real indication of the 467 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 7: failure of secular society today. So that was the top, 468 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 7: and then right behind it was I want to know 469 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 7: more about the Bible and how to be closer to God, 470 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 7: how to live my life, and how to have better 471 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 7: relationships Troy. 472 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: Through the years, we've had some conversations a little bit 473 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: about religious liberty, but when I think of national religious broadcasters, 474 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: I think, okay, religious liberties at the heart of what 475 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: that is all about, Troy, talk to us about how 476 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: significant it is and what you're seeing with the Trump 477 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: administration right now. 478 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 7: Well, it is at the heart of what we do, 479 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 7: because at the core of what we do is to 480 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 7: keep what we call the avenues open for Christian communicators 481 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 7: to be in the public square, to have our voices 482 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 7: heard in the general population, and then the general community 483 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 7: of communicators. So that's at the heart and look, this 484 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 7: administration couldn't be a more friendly administration to that cause. 485 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 7: This Monday, I came in early to Washington, d C. 486 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 7: I was at the Religious Liberties Committee Hearing Commissions hearing, 487 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 7: which was all about the bias and persecution and weaponization 488 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 7: against Christianity. And look, we have a I'm happy with 489 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 7: this administration. I'm excited about what the President's doing. I'm 490 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 7: excited about the direction he's taken. But this hearing, there 491 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 7: were a number of people that got up and testified. 492 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 7: This is a real battle that is still alive today. 493 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 7: There is much much bias in the marketplace. But specifically, 494 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 7: this hearing talked about the education system about young kids. 495 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 7: These are nine year old kids that were told they 496 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 7: can't sing Christian songs and talent shows. They were told 497 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 7: they have to read or pro transgender book to other students. 498 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 7: They were told that they can't in their valedictorian speeches 499 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 7: give thanks to their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. And 500 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 7: that's real and active, and that's why our work is 501 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 7: so important. 502 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: This week, Troy, the news broke of that senseless, horrific, 503 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: evil murder, of that young lady there in Charlotte, North Carolina, 504 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: and the media was silent. It's just ridiculous. Seriously, social 505 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: media blew up. I mean absolutely, they have lost their mind. 506 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: This thing is picking up steam. It's not going to 507 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: go away for a long time. I don't see it, Troy. 508 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: But that's the stuff that makes people crazy, especially when 509 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: it comes back to media itself, you know that. And 510 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: it's a constant tension that goes on, especially for people 511 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: of faith. 512 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: It's just like, this is ridiculous. 513 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 7: Well, look, people are waking up in this country and 514 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 7: that poor young woman's tragedy, you know, as you said, 515 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 7: this mainstream media, it just it didn't fit the narrative 516 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 7: that they wanted. It didn't fit their opinion pages to 517 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 7: push what they're trying to push, so they just didn't 518 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 7: even talk about it. And these are people who did 519 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 7: thousands and thousands of articles, you know, back doing the 520 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 7: DEI pushes and doing the Black Lives Matter pushes and 521 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 7: those things. And look, America is waking up. I think 522 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 7: that's what our survey showed the most, is America is 523 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 7: waking up to the hypocrisy of the mainstream media, to 524 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 7: the hypocrisy of the Democratic Party and some of these 525 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 7: other leaders on the left. Their hypocrisy here and it's 526 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 7: being rejected. Nobody's listening to those And this is why 527 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 7: programs like you, like this network, and like a lot 528 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 7: of social media influencers, are really getting millions of followers 529 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 7: out there because that's the only place you can find 530 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 7: the truth about these situations. And it's sad in our 531 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 7: country because we could be reconciling with real measures and 532 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 7: taking real steps to make the try better. But I 533 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 7: really believe Tim, these people just want to make the 534 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 7: country worse. 535 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: What's exciting to meet, Troy is if you're following social media, 536 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: you start thinking, you know, what revival does seem to 537 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: be happening in this country? Howse State University again this week? 538 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean seriously, media coverage up there, I mean videos 539 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: being posted everywhere. God is moving across this country, especially 540 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: with the younger generation. Troy again, I was really intrigued 541 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: by the fact that you're saying a lot of today's 542 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: generations are dialing into Christian media and the revival. 543 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: I mean gen z. I mean, if they're shown. 544 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: Up at church, seriously, they're standing bold for Christ. 545 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: It's happening in sports and everything. 546 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 3: Troy. 547 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: It's very exciting to me and. 548 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 7: Is so exciting to see God on the move here. 549 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 7: And you're right, the gen Z seems to be the 550 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 7: generation that's leading this and then we're so look, it's great. 551 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 7: I hear all over from Christian ministries, their revivals, their 552 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 7: medians are being packed with these young kids who have 553 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 7: lots of students, but they're they're again, they're rejecting everything 554 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 7: that was they were trying to indoctrinated with all of 555 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 7: these socialistic left wing policies and ideologies. They're rejecting that 556 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 7: and they're coming to Christianity and they're coming to christ 557 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 7: and that is extremely hopeful for our country. 558 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: Well, it certainly appears that God's moving in a special way. 559 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: We need to pray that the Church would awaken and 560 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: take her rightful place for such a time as this. 561 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 7: So can I comment on that real quick because he prays. 562 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 7: Launched yesterday the America Praise Initiative, and from now through 563 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 7: July fourth, we're asking churches and people to be praying 564 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 7: for that for our country. 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He's a spiritual advisor too, for 615 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: the hit show That Chosen, a multa season television show. 616 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 2: About the life of Jesus. Rabbi, welcome back. Thank you 617 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: for joining me, dollone. 618 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 3: It's always great to be here with you. Thanks for 619 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 3: having me. 620 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: We've had a lot of conversations Jason's over the years 621 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: and talked a lot about Israel, your love for Israel. 622 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: Time we were together, we talked a little bit about 623 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 1: what's happening in Gaza. Humanitarian crisis over there. It's a mess. 624 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: We don't know un what's going on Hamas, Jason, just 625 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: your take on that situation. We know the President sent 626 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: a message this week he's done with Hamas. He said, 627 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: this is my final warning and you better get this 628 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: thing right. Release the hostages. 629 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 3: Basically, yeah, I mean all it's terrible. We don't want 630 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 3: to ever see anything anyone suffer. I mean, God Israel 631 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 3: doesn't want to see the people suffer. They want to 632 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 3: see salvation and blessing come to Gaza. Deliverance. But it 633 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 3: has to begin with Hamas. Because the reality is is 634 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: the media brings forth this myth that Israel is to 635 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 3: blame for all the suffering in Gaza. And yes, there 636 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 3: is real suffering in Gaza, but we can't put the 637 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 3: blame all or even primarily, on Israel, because the reality 638 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 3: is is Hamas has controlled Gaza since two thousand and seven, 639 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 3: and they've had complete administrative control over it. And the 640 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: truth is they care more about warfare than they care 641 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 3: about the welfare of their people. Think about that for 642 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 3: a moment. They've chose to take the billions of dollars 643 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 3: they've received and build terror tunnels and invest in missiles 644 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 3: and in war, then in the welfare of their people. 645 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 3: They also steal the aid and sell it in order 646 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 3: to fund their war against Israel. And so the aid 647 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 3: is not getting to the people because Hamas is preventing. 648 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: Israel is sending a lot of aid and water and 649 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 3: electricity and providing all these things unprecedented in the history 650 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 3: of war what they've done, and yet Hamas is trying 651 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 3: to prevent it. And also Egypt has closed its borders 652 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: with Gaza and has prevented the flow and has controlled 653 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 3: the ability for aid to come in and out as well. 654 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 3: And so we need to be clear what's really happening there, 655 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 3: and the real culprits are Hamas and the and the 656 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: Gossins and the Palasitians will never be free until they 657 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 3: are free from this terrorist organization. 658 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: I know that Israel's making some moves and some people 659 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: are pretty upset about it. But I saw some interesting 660 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: commentary this week, Rabbit. 661 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 2: I want to read it to you. 662 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: Why are world leaders more upset by Israel targeting the 663 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: masterminds of the October seventh massacre in guitar than they 664 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: are that guitar was sheltering the masterminds of the October 665 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: seventh leaders in the first place. I mean, you start 666 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: thinking and reflect. I thought, you know, that's pretty interesting thought. 667 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean, what's your take on. 668 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 3: That now that that's that's that's a great question, and 669 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 3: I think we have a clear answer. I think it's 670 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 3: very biblical. It's very scriptural. So we know that when 671 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 3: Jesus describes the end times, he describes it in the 672 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 3: same way the Old Testament and the Rabbis do. It's 673 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 3: known as the birth pangs of the Messiah, the hevele 674 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 3: Hamashiach in Hebrew. And what's interesting, it's like a woman 675 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: who's in labor before that baby is birth, goes through 676 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 3: these contractions, and we are experiencing these contractions in the world. 677 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 3: But here's what's really interesting. Prophetically, some eighty three and 678 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 3: passages in Ezekiel describe what's going to happen in terms 679 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 3: of the nations of the world coming against Israel in 680 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 3: the end of the days, and the Rabbis describe, based 681 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 3: on those texts, the birth pangs of the Messiah, and 682 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 3: it talks about how the descendants of Esau and Ishmael 683 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 3: will join together. Why is that significant from a Jewish perspective? 684 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 3: Esau represents Rome and ultimately it represents the West, and 685 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 3: Ishmael represents the Arab world like Hamas and the other nations. 686 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 3: Why is this important? Because this October seventh attack began 687 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 3: on a Jewish holiday. It began at Sukkote, the Feasts 688 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 3: of Tabernacles Simhat Tehran. There's a prophetic pattern there, and 689 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 3: what that part of that prophetic pattern is this? So 690 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 3: it began on a biblical holiday, and this September, what's 691 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 3: happening the un on the most one of the most 692 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 3: holiest days of the Jewish year, Russia shun to the 693 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 3: fis of trumpas the biblical New Year, are going to 694 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 3: a New York City, come together and declare unilatterally a 695 00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 3: Palestinian state. This is no coincidence. This is the West, 696 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 3: led by France, led by the European nation. These are 697 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 3: representative of Esau joining with ishmael Hamas and these other 698 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 3: Arab nations like Guitar in Saudi Arabia to come against 699 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 3: Israel in these days and in these times. And that's 700 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 3: why after October seventh, you would think there'd be sympathy 701 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 3: for Israel and all the death they experience unprovoked, but 702 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 3: there's actually an increase of anti Semitism. Europe is joining 703 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 3: with Islam, being overtaken by Islam. This is prophecy being fulfilled, 704 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 3: the birth pangs of the Messiah coming to pass right 705 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: before our eyes. 706 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 2: Rabbi. 707 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: A lot of people ask and they reflect over all this, 708 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: and they wonder, is it land? 709 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: Is it ideology? Is it land? 710 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: Is it ideology? What in the world here here you 711 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: got a nation? What the land size is about the 712 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: state of New Jersey. Nevertheless, I mean throughout history they've 713 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: been the centerpiece of all this dial us in keep 714 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: helping us understand what is at the heart of all 715 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,479 Speaker 1: of this. 716 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 3: It is one hundred percent not a political issue. It 717 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 3: is not even a land issue, because if it was 718 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 3: a land issue, Israel has given land to peace. It 719 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 3: gave land to Egypt and they've had a peace since 720 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies. It was willing to give back land 721 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 3: in the go On Heights in order to try and 722 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 3: make peace with Syria. Israel has always been willing to 723 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 3: give land for peace and even to the Palestinians. It's 724 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 3: not about that. The root of this conflict is spiritual. 725 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 3: It is an attack against Israel because Israel is God's 726 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 3: chosen people. There's a covenant, and the enemy wants to 727 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 3: undermine that covenant because Israel is an important time piece 728 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 3: in end times events in the coming of the Messiah, 729 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 3: and so if you can attack or destroy the Jewish people, 730 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 3: you can either delay the Second Coming or prevent God's 731 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 3: plan from coming to pass. So this is all spiritual. 732 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 3: Anti Semitism, anti Israel sentiment is all Satanic and nature. 733 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 3: It always has been. 734 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 2: Rabby Jason Sobel what I'd like to have you Thank 735 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 2: you so much for joining me, thank you. 736 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 5: For more encouragement, and to stay connected. Follow doctor Tim 737 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 5: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a 738 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 5: part of your life. 739 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 2: You know. 740 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: Inclosing, these are unprecedented times, difficult times, shocking, stunning times, 741 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: and the loss of Charlie Kirk it's a huge blow 742 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: to our nation and to all of us who called 743 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: him friend. I hope you'll join with me in praying 744 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: for Erica and their two little children, and for everyone 745 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: at TPUSA, turning Point Usa, and again of course saw 746 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: those who knew him. And always know that God loves 747 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: you and he wants to be in your life. Our hope, 748 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: our strength comes from the Lord. Here again is an 749 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 1: encouraging verse to hold on to this week, Deuteronomy, chapter 750 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: thirty one, verse eight from the Bible. 751 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 2: The Lord himself goes before you. He will be with you. 752 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: He will never leave you, nor forsake you. So don't 753 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: be afraid and don't be discouraged. 754 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 2: I know this. 755 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: You can look to God for wisdom and direction in 756 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: your everyday life. Let me also say this, I've learned though, 757 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: that as a professional counselor, it's normal to have concern, 758 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: maybe fear, worry, especially when life isn't the way it's 759 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: supposed to be when crazy things are going on in 760 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: the world around you. I also know this that if 761 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: you're not careful, it can begin to consume you. 762 00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: Control. 763 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: You easy to lose perspective. For some, they feel like 764 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:07,399 Speaker 1: they've lost hope. It can get so dark that some 765 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 1: would feel like life would be better off without them. 766 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 1: I say this every week. You don't have to live 767 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 1: like that. Simply taking a step reaching out for help. 768 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: It's often the gateway to a new day or a 769 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,760 Speaker 1: new you. And if you are so many love and struggling, 770 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: I hope you'll do that reach out for help. There 771 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: are wonderful counsels and pastors who care who can help 772 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: you find the help, maybe the help the answers that 773 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: you're looking for. There are a lot of wonderful resources 774 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: now available. I'd love to connect you with some of those. 775 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: You can learn more at our website at AACC dot 776 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: net that's AACC dot net, or go up on our 777 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: brand new website, Christian Care Connected and get connected with 778 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: a mental health Christian mental health leader who could possibly 779 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: speak into your life christiancareconnect dot com. If you don't 780 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: have a relationship with God in christ I want you 781 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: to know that you can do that right now by 782 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: asking him to come into your life, simply asking him 783 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: to forgive you of your sin and to be your 784 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: lord and savior. Praying a prayer from your heart to 785 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: God's heart like this, you can pray it with me, 786 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: Lord Jesus, I need you. I know I'm broken that 787 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,959 Speaker 1: I've sinned against you, I've broken your laws. I turn 788 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: from my sin. I invite you into my heart and life. 789 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: I want to trust you and follow you as my 790 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: lord and savior. And thank you for loving me, forgiving 791 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: your life for me. Thank you for forgiveness and the 792 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: gift of eternal life, the gift of heaven. I pray 793 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: all this in Jesus's name. 794 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 2: Amen. You know what the Bible says. 795 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: In John three point sixteen, it says, for God so 796 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, 797 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: that whosoever believed that in him should not perish, but 798 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: have everlasting life. And the Bible also says in Romans 799 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: ten to nine that if you confess with you your 800 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 1: mouth that Jesus's Lord, and believe in your heart that 801 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: God raised him from the dead, the Bible says this, 802 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: you will be saved if you prayed that prayer from 803 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: your heart to God's heart. I believe this that you're saved, 804 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: and I want to encourage you to go live your 805 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: life now for God and He'll give. 806 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 2: You the strength to do it. 807 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: If you're struggling with hopelessness, you think it's pretty dark 808 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 1: and you can't get out of that pit, there's now 809 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: a toll free number. It's the Suicide Hotline. Simply have 810 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 1: to dial nine eight eight nine eight eight on your phone. 811 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: That's the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline and talk to someone 812 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: right now. Hey, before we go, Maybe God's blessed you 813 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: with a heart to help others. 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