WEBVTT - NeNe-GOTIATIONS ARE OVER! | UGT Recap with Dustin Ross

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<v Speaker 1>Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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<v Speaker 2>favorite shows from the Real Houseboys in Atlanta, New Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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<v Speaker 2>Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the

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<v Speaker 2>Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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<v Speaker 2>addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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<v Speaker 2>scripted as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Rain drops on today's episode Reality with the King. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just the two of us. The boys are back dustin rotch.

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<v Speaker 3>The two of us. That's right, me and Carlos. You

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<v Speaker 3>can make it if we try. Okay, and we about

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<v Speaker 3>to try, which is more than we can say for

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<v Speaker 3>some people that we watched because Vicky didn't try worth

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<v Speaker 3>a damn.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get into it, Carlos, Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been waiting for a reason to to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to definitively say that VICKI Gumbleson ain't shit. I got

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<v Speaker 3>it in this episode. But I'm gonna follow you. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a whoa, I'm gonna ride your wave with this, but

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<v Speaker 3>I just want you to ride Umbleson ain't ship just.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I said, and I knew this.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a feeling about this, and I got two

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<v Speaker 3>examples of why in this episode, so we could continue though.

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<v Speaker 4>Love the show though.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well does that The beauty of recapping anything with

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<v Speaker 2>you is it's always unpredictable and I never know.

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<v Speaker 5>What to expect because that I was not expecting. But

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<v Speaker 5>like you said, let's get into it, so rain drops today,

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<v Speaker 5>we right here to recap The Real Housewives, Ultimate Girl's Trip,

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<v Speaker 5>The Roaring twentieth Anniversary se.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Cohen, everybody involved to celebrate twenty years of a

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<v Speaker 2>reality show. It's unheard of, especially a docu series, So

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to the network to Andy Cohen.

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<v Speaker 1>Just refresh you guys in case I'll been living under rock.

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<v Speaker 2>The cast who are celebrating dustin this amazing milestone is

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<v Speaker 2>Vicky Bicky from OC, Lisa Barcow from Salt Lake City, Portia,

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<v Speaker 2>Dianne Williams from Atlanta Housewives, Giselle Kobe Bryant from Potomac,

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<v Speaker 2>Teresa Udj from Jersey. Last, but certainly not leavest called

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<v Speaker 2>Richards from Beverly Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dustin before we get to the recap.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, you are not only a reality show historian.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the Housewives front and back as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that I tell you the six women representing this milestone,

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<v Speaker 2>do you agree with who they chose as the woman

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<v Speaker 2>to represent each city?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No, just going city by city. Porsche.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand, she's the legacy face of the series. They

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<v Speaker 3>had already used Cynthia when The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls

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<v Speaker 3>Trip was already introduced, so Cynthia would have felt felt

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<v Speaker 3>a little redundant, I think to the fans, even though

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<v Speaker 3>they had already used Porsche too at this time. Porsia

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<v Speaker 3>is the leg the leading legacy full time cast member

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<v Speaker 3>on that show, and so her being chosen to represent

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<v Speaker 3>Atlanta made since Giselle being chosen to represent Potomac made sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Karen is compromised at the moment, and it could have

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<v Speaker 3>only been Karen or Gazelle, So Giselle makes perfect sense,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, even and that's not I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not pitting them against each other, just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 3>because I would have been fine either way that went,

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<v Speaker 3>had they chosen Karen or Gizelle. I'm fine with Giselle

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<v Speaker 3>being the choice, but it would have become been down

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<v Speaker 3>to the two of them, so it made sense to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Luanne makes sense when it comes from New York those

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<v Speaker 3>ladies unless they're drinking and you know, riffing around and shit,

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<v Speaker 3>then then there's really nothing there. And Luanne has a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of personality she also and it's it's evidenced by

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<v Speaker 3>her off camera real friendships with people like Cynthia, like

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<v Speaker 3>they know Luyne.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So Luyanne being chosen and out of everybody from the

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<v Speaker 3>New York Women, it just makes sense for Luanne to

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<v Speaker 3>be chosen. She's got personality, she fit in. Teresa being

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<v Speaker 3>chosen from New Jersey, duh, there's literally no other choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Who has Kyle Richards duh for Beverly Hills the only

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<v Speaker 3>choice but Vicki for Orange County. I was surprised at

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<v Speaker 3>I was wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The only reason that her her being chosen to represent

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<v Speaker 3>that franchise made sense to me is because they were

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<v Speaker 3>the first Housewives series. She was the first breakout star

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<v Speaker 3>of a Housewives franchise, so it made sense from a

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<v Speaker 3>legacy perspective. But Tamera would have been a much better

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<v Speaker 3>choice to me to represent the OC ladies on that trip.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we would have had more exciting conversations had

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<v Speaker 3>she been chosen, but we ended up with Vicki.

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<v Speaker 4>And we got to look at her.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be a weekp for the books,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have nine episodes to go through this season,

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<v Speaker 2>so already no episode one is going to be just

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<v Speaker 2>the kickoff in terms of this series. So I will

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<v Speaker 2>say this, I think the elephant in the room obviously

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<v Speaker 2>is the only thing that we all believe. Not to

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<v Speaker 2>put words in your mouth, I'm assuming you'll agree with this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the only one that did not make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And nothing against Porta because everyone knows I'm or just

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<v Speaker 2>like man at this point, right, So there's not anything

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<v Speaker 2>that gets Portia. But I think we all know that

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<v Speaker 2>Nini leagues made represent Atlanta, Like I think we all

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<v Speaker 2>know that I think Portia of going records saying that obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>look things have happened. Not to get into that, but

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<v Speaker 2>that was the only thing that I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been great to have Nini, I think

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<v Speaker 2>outside of Nini.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this first, do you agree that

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<v Speaker 2>if you have to choose, it would be Nini to

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<v Speaker 2>represent Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 3>If Nini had been in continuous good standing with the

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<v Speaker 3>network and all all subsidiaries of it, then yes, but

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<v Speaker 3>she hasn't been in it, no secret, So them choosing

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<v Speaker 3>her to represent an entire franchise that she has a

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<v Speaker 3>very storied history with wouldn't have made sense to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that we're all speeding from our hearts when

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<v Speaker 3>we say, damn, it would have been nice to have Niini,

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<v Speaker 3>because they would have felt good. We would have We

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<v Speaker 3>want to see her do well, and we want to

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<v Speaker 3>see We've all That's been part of the fun of

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<v Speaker 3>being a fan of Needing Leaks right from day one,

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to see her succeed, wanting to see her continuously elevate,

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<v Speaker 3>and celebrating her when she did that.

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<v Speaker 4>So we would have loved to have seen that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it doesn't make sense because she has walked away

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<v Speaker 3>from the franchise, talked horribly about it, all of those things,

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<v Speaker 3>so seeing her now just turn around and represent it

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<v Speaker 3>would not have made sense. I do think that it

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<v Speaker 3>was the right thing to do to have Needy be

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<v Speaker 3>a part of this series, and I love the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that the powers that be who make those types of

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<v Speaker 3>decisions were able to make their let their good sense

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<v Speaker 3>usurp their personal grudges with her and then re usher

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<v Speaker 3>her back into the Bravo universe. This way, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was the right choice to do it this way personally.

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<v Speaker 1>No, listen, I think so too.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy has publicly said that there was no way they

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<v Speaker 2>can have celebrated this twentieth year without.

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<v Speaker 3>Her, but they can do it without Kenya. What does

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<v Speaker 3>that mean for Kenya?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>I heard Andy say that and immediately I was like, well, damn,

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<v Speaker 3>does that mean that y'all had the same conversation and

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<v Speaker 3>we're like, well, we can do without Kenya.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what's unfortunate is this, I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>the unfortunate thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Kenya situation is the brit Eadie lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, my opinion right right right, as a producer,

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<v Speaker 2>a production company works with networks, I think unfortunately brick

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<v Speaker 2>Edie's lawsuit going to prevent Kenya from being Umbravo until

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<v Speaker 2>that situation settled.

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<v Speaker 3>My oka, my opinion, that makes sense. That makes perfect

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<v Speaker 3>sense to me. As a theory, that makes perfect sense

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<v Speaker 3>and probably is the truth, right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that probably would.

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<v Speaker 3>Explain it because when he framed it, when he phrased it,

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<v Speaker 3>that way, I should say, immediately my mind went to

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<v Speaker 3>Kenya more, did yourge touo?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, listen, the thing is for.

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<v Speaker 4>Me, Carlos, that's another one, like what is why is there?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I do think the difference between Lisa Vanda Pump and

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<v Speaker 2>Kenya is Lisa Vanda Pump walked away from the show,

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<v Speaker 2>did not go to the reunion. She's obviously in good

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<v Speaker 2>standing with Bravo. She has VANDAM Pump Rules is on

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<v Speaker 2>a pause right now, but she has she she's a

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<v Speaker 2>good standing with the network. The thing with Lisa Vanda Pump,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine. I'm not the one to trip off

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<v Speaker 2>anyone's confidence or you gotta.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you you think she thinks she bigger than the program?

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<v Speaker 1>Loose oh the ross any thinking the Pump? I think

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<v Speaker 1>she is the program.

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<v Speaker 2>I still don't understand why she's co hosting the reunion.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why is she here? Like I don't why

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<v Speaker 1>are you even president? Like I don't need you here anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>She thinks she's bigger than the show, and I think, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she doesn't ever want to a knowledge how

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<v Speaker 2>that show gave her everything she needed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, well that would explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you saw Nieni up here with course what

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<v Speaker 2>were and just seeing the dynamic before we get to

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<v Speaker 2>the minutia of it, did you, as a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, feel like, damn, this woman is back and

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<v Speaker 2>deserves to be back on television.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt happy to see her.

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<v Speaker 3>I was happy to see her on a screen with

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<v Speaker 3>that Bravo logo in the corner in modern times.

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<v Speaker 4>I was happy to see that. I wanted to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Her current as current fresh, you know, talent on Bravo

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<v Speaker 3>and seeing that was made me happy. Hearing her and

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<v Speaker 3>Porsha have banter made me happy. We didn't get a

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<v Speaker 3>mind blowing sit down with you know, groundbreaking revelations or

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<v Speaker 3>a conversation in regard to her history with the network,

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<v Speaker 3>because it just wasn't time for that. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>fun scene where she went over Porsa's house to help

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<v Speaker 3>her pack for this trip, and I thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>a nice nod to Nini's time with the show. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's so funny when they put her name in the

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<v Speaker 3>lower thirds and down on the screen or whatever and

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<v Speaker 3>showed her time with the show. I had never you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you think about Nini being on the show and you

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<v Speaker 3>think about her being off the show, and as a fan,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, we acknowledged her break in season eight because

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<v Speaker 3>that's when she had gotten the show to Tell the

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<v Speaker 3>Truth with Betty White and Anthony Anderson and them on ABC,

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<v Speaker 3>and she had she was doing something else around that too. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that was back in season five.

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<v Speaker 4>This is in eight.

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<v Speaker 3>She was doing that to Tell the Truth show and

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<v Speaker 3>something else she was doing I can't remember. And so

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<v Speaker 3>we remember she wasn't full time in season eight. She

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<v Speaker 3>came back at the end, she was on the reunion,

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<v Speaker 3>so there was a break there. Then we know she

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't there during season nine, which was actually one of,

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<v Speaker 3>if not the best season from a viewer's perspective of

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<v Speaker 3>the show. Then she returned in season ten. But you

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<v Speaker 3>never really consider that. You just think of Nini as

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<v Speaker 3>seasons one through twelve. But when they listed it seasons

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<v Speaker 3>one through seven and then nine through twelve, I was like, damn,

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<v Speaker 3>her past on the show was kind of broken up.

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<v Speaker 3>I just you just she hit such a big presence.

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<v Speaker 3>You consider her to represent the show and have always

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<v Speaker 3>been there until she wasn't anymore. But there were breaks taken,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just it was just noteworthy to me that

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<v Speaker 3>they acknowledged the breaks in their determination of her time

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<v Speaker 3>on the show. I was like, oh no, so with that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know she did take a break. I had just forgotten.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, just something that made me go, h okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it's what you're saying, like to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>the break she's had. I enjoy the flashbacks of her

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<v Speaker 2>greatest moments. Yeah, and I enjoyed her enforce as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bantered there. It was, yes, listen, I I want her back.

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<v Speaker 1>On House Parts of Atlanta. It's not it's not my choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching her with Porsche, it seemed so easy how they

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<v Speaker 2>went back here because the last thing we know of

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<v Speaker 2>her in Porsche is, you know, they got into a situation.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a little you know, banter on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>But to see that they were able to like get

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<v Speaker 2>past that and kick things off.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, Nini looked amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>The blonde was blonding, the hair was great, the body

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<v Speaker 2>looked good.

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<v Speaker 3>Rick Owens shout out to head her and there, Ricky,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She looked amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's she's meant to be back on television. This

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<v Speaker 2>is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get back into the show. The one thing I did

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<v Speaker 2>notice though, and I was I was curious if you

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<v Speaker 2>caught this. I had a moment of sadness for Nini

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<v Speaker 2>as I was watching her and Porsche when it's not funny,

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<v Speaker 2>but Porscha is such a beautiful light that really does

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<v Speaker 2>me talking sometimes I'd be like, Porscha, do you see

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening in front of you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, girls, So like I would kinda and like

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<v Speaker 1>these women that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like like like these are women that my girl Nini

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like came up in the game with.

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<v Speaker 1>And Nini's face to me, to me, to me, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Of sadness in her eyes during that particular moment in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of damn, like this isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Me on this trip with these girls.

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<v Speaker 2>When when when Porscha was like you know Kyle and

0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Nini touched her boos and.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like I know Kyle and and I love Kyle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my girl. It was in those moments where I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I wonder for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it weird to get these updates in real time

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<v Speaker 2>from Porsche, who you consider your little sister on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's telling you, bitch, I'm going I'm going on

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<v Speaker 2>a trip with the with the Season one girlies, because

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<v Speaker 2>everybody on that cast a the Porsche dustin our Season

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<v Speaker 2>one Girlies. So for me, I wonder if in that

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<v Speaker 2>moment if Nini felt the reality that was hitting her.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she gave up her rights to that shit when

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<v Speaker 3>she left the damn show on bad terms, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to put it plainly, And so I think that that

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<v Speaker 3>we watched nine eat a piece of humble pie in

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<v Speaker 3>that scene, the whole scene itself with Shady.

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<v Speaker 4>When you think about it, you're going over there to

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<v Speaker 4>help her.

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<v Speaker 3>Pack, you know what I'm saying, while she's going on

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<v Speaker 3>this trip with the old the founding Father, Mount Rushmore

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<v Speaker 3>fucking housewives, and you're not a part of it because

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<v Speaker 3>you elected to leave the show and then speak negatively

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<v Speaker 3>about the network, the power players, all that other stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And so listen, I don't want to see anybody that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't deserve it just be incessantly torn down.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. I was happy to see Nini.

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<v Speaker 3>Get next to her glory as Bravo talent in that scene.

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<v Speaker 3>I was happy to see it. I think that we

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<v Speaker 3>have to keep our hopes and dreams realistic. They are

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<v Speaker 3>obviously working through some stuff. And also, let's be clear,

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<v Speaker 3>this is good business. Nini on that screen equates to

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<v Speaker 3>dollars for the network flat out when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>her being a part of The Ultimate Girls Trip Roaring twentieth.

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<v Speaker 3>Her being a part of this makes people want to

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<v Speaker 3>watch it, so there's incentive on their side to include her.

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<v Speaker 3>And she is now a hope experiencing some healing. Anytime

0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:58.040
<v Speaker 3>you have a bad separation from something or someone, the

0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:02.720
<v Speaker 3>healing process feels great once it starts, and so seeing

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<v Speaker 3>her kind of repair her relationship with Bravo feels good,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And I'm fine with this.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to see Nini be a housewife, but

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<v Speaker 4>is that going to happen? Probably not, do you think

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<v Speaker 4>of plan.

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<v Speaker 3>It can stranger things have happened, But I think there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of I would imagine that Nini is going

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<v Speaker 3>to have to fix some things, and that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>take a lot of conversations, a lot of explanation, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of accountability. And I hope that she's able to

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<v Speaker 3>rise to the occasion, and I hope the network is

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<v Speaker 3>able to rise to the occasion and offering her an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 4>I really hope that happens.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also know that The Real Housewives of Atlanta

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<v Speaker 3>is on a motherfucking road right now. The cast works

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<v Speaker 3>and so interrupting that with the hope and hinging on

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<v Speaker 3>the hope of on Nini just working out and being

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<v Speaker 3>willing to participate and willing to make good television. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a huge bet, Carlos, And you make television shows, so

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<v Speaker 3>you understand all these dynamics you order on the show,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do too. But you know exactly what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>We fucked this include her and then she get over here.

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<v Speaker 4>And sit around or talk shit online, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, so there's there's considerations there that would have to

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<v Speaker 3>be made. In a perfect world, I'd love to see

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<v Speaker 3>her back on the Housewives of Atlanta, you know, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it'll happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, listen, like you said, stranger things have happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people think it's strange, Dustin, that Kyle Richards is

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<v Speaker 2>the longest consecutive housewife. And we learned this Dustin as

0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.720
<v Speaker 2>the girls are meeting up and they're telling us a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of backstory about their tenure on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, does that surprised you?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, of all the girlies, Kyle Richards Beverly Hills is

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<v Speaker 2>the longest running consecutive house housewife wish by the way,

0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Tamra Judge says, it's really her, but that she feels

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<v Speaker 2>that because she got fired for two seasons, that that's

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why they want to say consecutive. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you go through the number, Tamra has had more seasons

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<v Speaker 2>than Kyle, do you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You surprised by that factoid?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you would think that of all the girls needing

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<v Speaker 2>Teresa Tamra, that they would happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the key word here is consecutive and reading. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>words mean things, and so I think when people try

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<v Speaker 3>to eliminate the word consecutive from that conversation, it's based

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<v Speaker 3>in ego. Because facts are facts, and the longest running

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<v Speaker 3>consecutive housewife is, in fact Kyle Richards. That don't mean

0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.320
<v Speaker 3>she means more to the network than anybody else. That

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<v Speaker 3>don't mean she's better at this than anybody else. It

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<v Speaker 3>means that she's the longest running consecutive housewife on that network.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hers. I didn't want her to have it either.

0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.040
<v Speaker 3>I wanted Candy to have it, but Candy quit and

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<v Speaker 3>so she doesn't have it anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so now it's Kyle's. It just is what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>When you try to remove that word so that you

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<v Speaker 3>can now be in the conversation, that means that your

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<v Speaker 3>ego on a piece of it. And I get it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, because it's a bragging right,

0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:22.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. And it means that you

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<v Speaker 3>are vested and rooted in a way in this universe

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<v Speaker 3>that is significant.

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<v Speaker 4>But you are or you aren't.

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<v Speaker 3>So we cannot remove the word consecutive to include others

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<v Speaker 3>in the conversation. The answer and the rightful owner of

0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:43.520
<v Speaker 3>that title is Kyle Richards And that's just what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard it here first from Dustin Roll. So speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of facts, Teresa said Dusta that she didn't ask GPT

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<v Speaker 2>who is the most iconic housewife, and she said it

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<v Speaker 2>was her. I wanted to see that as well, So

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<v Speaker 2>Dustin I did go on chat GPT, uh because.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as a journalist, Hey, Portia, I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see it. You know, Teresa's my girl too, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to see it myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So Dustin, I did ask chat GPT, who is the

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<v Speaker 2>most iconic housewife Dustin? Do you think they did say

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<v Speaker 2>Teresa or was another name given?

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<v Speaker 4>They said Teresa?

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<v Speaker 2>According to chat GPT Nimi Leaks housewife, Teresa is number two.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, are.

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<v Speaker 2>You able to tell me who rounded out the top

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<v Speaker 2>five from chat GBT to Nini's number one, Teresa's number two?

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think? Five?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Candy, No, Lisa vander Pump.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you got two more.

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<v Speaker 4>Nini Teresa.

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<v Speaker 1>One is white and one is black.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I don't know who.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll give you.

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<v Speaker 2>Be to our East Coast one black, one white, East Coast.

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<v Speaker 4>Giselle Briant. You're warm Karen Huger, Yes.

0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh well yep, her recent situation would push her into

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 3>that stage. Okay, now white from the East. Bethany Frankel, Yep, yep, yep, yep. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what it was.

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 1>That's what it was. That's what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Nannie Teresa, Kyle Bethany, and Kani Teresa Bethany.

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<v Speaker 4>Cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, I mean, hey, that's a strong five. That's

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 3>a strong five.

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, the gag is, look Teresa in the words

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 2>of Dustin, but comes up the act it's on the list.

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<v Speaker 4>The list, Yes, well, listen the word iconic.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we have to determine what that means in

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:30.399
<v Speaker 3>this case, right, because that that is what makes this

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.159
<v Speaker 3>conversation have so many moving parts, because how do you

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.199
<v Speaker 3>determine whether or not someone is iconic.

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 4>If we had some.

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Stiff official criteria to determine that, then we could really

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.439
<v Speaker 3>get down to business. But unfortunately, it just becomes a

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 3>popularity contest and you argue on behalf of your fave.

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:48.399
<v Speaker 3>That's why everybody can kiss my ask because I'll go

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:52.359
<v Speaker 3>to war about Cynthia Bailey in a New York minute,

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 3>and you know I will, and Ebony K. Williams too,

0:23:54.800 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 3>and Jordan you have yeah and will forever. Okay, It's

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 3>just what it is. So we all have our favorites.

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Carlos loves Porsche. We all know what it is, so

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 3>we do not get surprised when Carlos puts it to

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 3>our neck about anything Porscha related, because we already know

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:17.439
<v Speaker 3>what to expect that And I hope everybody knows that

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 3>from me about Cynthia, Ebane and Claudia because I will

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 3>always go to war about them always, and.

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:25.360
<v Speaker 4>Stacy Rush too.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm being honest, I love Stacy Rush and I'm

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 3>not having it about her flat out. Stacy Rush is

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<v Speaker 3>on my list of Stacey's on the list. She's on

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:38.680
<v Speaker 3>my list of permanent protection.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, this is for you. Stacey's on the left.

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<v Speaker 4>Nini used to be an Nini now.

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<v Speaker 3>To be clear, Nini still is to a certain extent,

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.679
<v Speaker 3>because I can say stuff about Neini, but can't nobody

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.560
<v Speaker 3>else say stuff about Nini in front of me. Because

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 3>I still love Nini. I still love Nini. I still

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 3>am a Nini fan. I still want Nini to do well.

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm still happy for Nini. I just don't want Nini

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 3>to get to a place like where she was during

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 3>the season eleven reunion, during the season twelve reunion, during

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 3>that season six trip to Savannah? Were they in Savannah, Georgia?

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Where were you all at? I don't want her to

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 3>get to that place where she actually like she didn't

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 3>give a fuck cause Cynthia was crying after she went

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 3>in about Noel.

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 4>No when Cynthia was was sensitive about Noel.

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 3>That's where the shift came for me, and ever since then,

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I saw things differently. But love Nini, though and we'll

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 3>forever have Ninie's back forever. And what's for the record,

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 3>was emphatically happy to see her on Bravo screens that

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 4>Was so very happy to see that.

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 3>She looked good, she sounded good, she was exciting and funny,

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.119
<v Speaker 3>and that's the Ninni that we love, and so I

0:25:57.200 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 3>was happy to see her for sure.

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I will say being around her, that's who

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Nini is today.

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<v Speaker 4>Good a couple of years, I.

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Talked to her at least once every other week.

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 2>She's real shit, that is Nini's personality right now.

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>She's she's in the best place she's ever been in

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>her life.

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 4>I love that for her, and I.

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Know seriously, so I want to make sure to let

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 2>the world know, like that's honestly in real life, off camera,

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:25.159
<v Speaker 2>who she is?

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Asked anybody who went to our meet and greets, Nimi.

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Was grabbing people, bear hugging them, buying shots of drinks

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 2>for the audience. Like she's in the best I've known

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 2>her for shit, seventeen years.

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I will say, who she is now is the best

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen her.

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 3>That's wonderful. That's wonderful, and that's what we want for her.

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I love Nini.

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Now the one you don't love Vicki Govlson had a moment.

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>So look Dustin on the boat. You know, Vickie. They're

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:03.199
<v Speaker 1>in Orange County. The first stop is Orange County. The

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>girls are there.

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Vicky, you know, is hosting this and at some point

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Teresa does talk about.

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>How you know she was going through this moment with Joe.

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Which, by the way, as somebody who knows her too,

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize and maybe because I'm older, I now

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>get it, but she I didn't realize it was she

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 2>was signing refinanced mortgage paperwork, which is how she was

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 2>able to unfortunately get caught in what her husband was doing,

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 2>which was mortgage fraud. So I thought that was really

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 2>interesting to hear her say it. Vicky, as you know,

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 2>is somebody who prides herself on being a career woman.

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 2>And as Teresa is reflecting on this, Vicky is telling

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>her and the girls that she's going to teach them

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 2>lessons like ownership.

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 4>She did a lot more than that.

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Carlos, she did a lot more than that. Okay,

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 3>this is the thing you on a real housewives show.

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 3>Let's get in let's go there on a real housewives show,

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Being interesting on this show, on a show, on a

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:22.679
<v Speaker 3>show like this, does not require you to engage with

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 3>people in ways that you never would in the real world.

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 4>Right, That's not a pathway to being interesting.

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 3>In fact, that's a pathway to tanking whatever the scene is,

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 3>or tanking whatever the natural flow of the show will go.

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 4>I'll give you a couple of examples.

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Think back to season twelve of Housewives of Atlanta when

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 3>they were in when they were going through Snakegate, and

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 3>they were in Toronto, and it was like a fever

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 3>dream because Kenya and Porsche were on the same team

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 3>going against somebody together and working together, using their brains together.

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 3>It was it was, it was we were so we

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 3>were on a high as fans. They finally corner yo

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Yo aka Yovanna in this room and start executing their plan.

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 4>What does Marlowe do? She they lied. They don't know

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 4>who it is. They lied, These people lying in front of.

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Me, throwing the whole fucking scene off, and it's frustrating

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 3>to why it's not good TV? Any Vicky did that

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 3>in this episode when Teresa was telling her story about

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 3>her unfortunate experience, you know, being incarcerated and how she

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 3>got there. Vicky literally falls out, leans out, exhales, makes

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 3>her jaws wide like a bullfit, falls all out, leans

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 3>all out, rolling her eyes, completely disrespect that you're talking

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 3>about a woman who did what she did. Teresa committed

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 3>whatever crime she committed, but like that's I'm sure to her,

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>that's one of the most serious, fucked up terms of

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 3>her life, having to go to prison and the whole

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 3>fucking world knows about it. You can't escape, you know,

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 3>people knowing your business. You gotta be separated from your children.

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 3>People think you are a dishonest person all this shit,

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 3>and that's how you're gonna react to it. You're gonna

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 3>respond that way. That's why Porscha and all of them

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.719
<v Speaker 3>were like they didn't agree with it. And Porscha, you

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 3>know how we are black people. We can't just sit

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 3>by idly and watch somebody just be completely disrespected without

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 3>them saying anything. So that's why you see Porscha was

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of like speaking up for Teresa because she she

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 3>didn't like that shit that.

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Vicky was doing.

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Gazelle was looking at her crazy. That's why Giselle went

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 3>and libbed that ball the tamer. Later on, Jaselle was like, Okay,

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 3>well fuck you, Vicky. I'm gonna get your ass back

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 3>in some way. And that's what they did on behalf

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 3>of Teresa. And I did not like that. I didn't

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 3>like that. And just like Lisa Barlow said, you can't

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>turn somebody's pain into a fucking turbo tax tutorio, that's

0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 3>not what this is.

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 4>Like, what are you talking about? She did that, by

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 4>the way, Yeah, she did that.

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Man, so like I and I just for me personally,

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 3>I did not like that. I did not like the

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 3>way that she was responding to Teresa hadn't done nothing

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 3>to her, nothing nothing, Vicky just in her from her

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 3>spirit found a rotten place to just come from with

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 3>that behavior, and she disrespected the fuck out of Teresa

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 3>in that moment.

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 4>Didn't understand and.

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was rich Loos because she went on

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 3>to cry like a baby about somebody saying she looked

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 3>like a muppet and how it made her get a

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 3>nose job. And we have a whole scene dedicated to

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 3>somebody tearing you up and man, it hurt your feelings

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 3>that bad, but you are so willing and easily able

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 3>to do that shit to Teresa.

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 4>I didn't like that.

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 2>This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Let's get back into the show. Well, look, I did

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 2>not correlate the two like you did, but I definitely

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>agree with you when you put it that way, right

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Like you said, Teresa.

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>By the way, is a sweetheart like Teresa is.

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Don't starting no be nuts Like a minute she came

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 3>on my screen. I have loved Teresa Jude from the

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 3>moment that she came onto my screen the moment. Always

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 3>have loved Teresa. So I didn't like that shit. I

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 3>didn't like that at all.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't good. It wasn't good. Like the thing

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>is this Vicky Stick. And I love VICKI, but Vicky

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Stick that gets a little.

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Bit daunting is the fact that she's self made, which

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 2>we can celebrate and I love that for her, even

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 2>when she gave them applications to fill out life insurance.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 2>It was things like that plus dissing Teresa as Teresa's having.

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>An emotional moment that really made.

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 2>You understand that Vicky really is somebody that is self serving.

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Like she doesn't in the room, she is all about

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 2>self because at that point is when you do support

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 2>a woman who unfortunately did And I love that all

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the girls said the same thing, like what Teresa did

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>is something.

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>As wives we all have done before.

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Y has always said when Mauricio tells me the sign stuff,

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>that's my husband. I'm not No one think their husband

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 2>is setting them up, you gee know what I'm saying?

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, And I felt like it was a lost

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>cause for Vicky because in that moment, instead of it

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 2>being teachable, it could have been a moment where she

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>understood that, wow, there are women out there who do

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 2>do that, and what can I do to help women

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>not make that same mistake?

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 3>And also, as you could have just shut the fuck

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 3>up and minded your business.

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 4>You didn't even have to attach yourself to Teresa's story.

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 3>That's her story, and you was gonna get the opportunity

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 3>to tell your stupid ass story that you told later

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 3>on that was meaningless. And thank god these women have hearts,

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, And they tried to show you some patrol

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 3>her show VICKI rather some compassion that she was telling

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 3>this fourth grade playground esque ass story.

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 4>You know, you hurt my feelings like this piggy, so

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 4>I gotta know his jobs, what.

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:43.240
<v Speaker 3>Grow the fuck up? And it stung you that damn

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 3>bad grandmother. Mind you, this is, this is she is

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 3>so far beyond the point where a playground, you know,

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 3>ring around the rosies, ass insult would have affected It changed.

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 4>Your life, and you gotta I knows job.

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 3>And all this other stuff you probably had been wanting

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.800
<v Speaker 3>to know's jobs and you probably want another one because

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 3>it don't seem like you like the one that you got,

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 3>now you know.

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying.

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 3>And while no one wants to have someone say things

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.720
<v Speaker 3>to them about their appearance and things that they can't

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.479
<v Speaker 3>change on their own without a doctor's help, right, it's

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 3>just not that big of a deal. But that shows

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 3>you the world that she lives in, where something that

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 3>something that surface and that elementary to us, is that

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.879
<v Speaker 3>impactful to her because she's fake and so.

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 4>She's not even consisted.

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 3>She does not consider the lives of other people, in

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 3>the perspectives of other people in this world. She's all

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 3>about her lens and what's going on in front of

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 3>her face. That's why she felt like she could make

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 3>light of and make fun of Teresa's shit, because it's

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 3>simply not important to her, even though we're talking about.

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 3>She doesn't take the time to step aside from whatever

0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 3>the fuck she be on and think about the fact,

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 3>like you a mom, you got kids, and shit, Teresa

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 3>got four daughters, Like she went to jail.

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 4>That's got to be.

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Fucked up for anybody to go through the same compassion

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 3>that everybody showed her while she was telling that stupid

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 3>ass story about Slade. Is this compassion that she seems

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 3>to be unable to extend to others. And I don't

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 3>like people like that, So it's watching her do it

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 3>on TV is annoying to me, that's all.

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:27.919
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I would have to once again agree

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 2>with you because I didn't look at it way until

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>you said it.

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:34.720
<v Speaker 1>But you're right if if something because.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Teresa signing documents that her husband put in front of

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 2>her as a housewife, Teresa was truly a housewife, did

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 2>not work, took care of the kids, her husband said,

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 2>we're going to.

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Refinance the house. Sign this.

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Ninety nine percent of wives would have done it because

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 2>they trust their husbands.

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, not have compassion with that.

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 2>But for one person, a man, to call you a

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:10.280
<v Speaker 2>muppet that one comment and miss Piggy, that one comment

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 2>made you change your face and you want people to

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 2>have compassion for you for something that no shade. It's

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 2>hard to find compassion for because if anything is.

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Quite, it's sad. It's not even the word, it's.

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 2>It's I think about you said, it's kind of elementary

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 2>that there's one comment unless you tell me all your

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 2>life you've been called miss Piggy, you believe that.

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 3>I would believe it if she were to say that,

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 3>I would believe that for a succession of years, consecutive years,

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.439
<v Speaker 3>I would believe that she has heard that she looked

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 3>like Miss Piggy, I would believe that.

0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 4>Would you believe that she had heard that before?

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I have to see old photos.

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to what I would believe I would.

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a I think it's a reasonable assumption

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 3>that that's not the first time that she's heard that.

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 3>I think she has heard it for a long time. Well,

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 3>how long has Miss Piggy been around?

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm in authorities around.

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 4>And I was yeah, yeah, so, yeah, I believe it

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 4>for sure.

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>She's in her sixties, but so it's Spinky's been around

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 2>for a minute. But yeah, I think to your point,

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 2>you want to find compassionate about that, and I would say,

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>although I feel sad for anybody getting surgery due to

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 2>a comment, I logically have way more compassion for Teresa

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>being in a situation where she was bamboozled by the

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 2>person she chose to spend the rest of her life with.

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 3>But same situation person talking about something serious and personal,

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 3>two different reactions.

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Speaks to the character, That's all I'm saying.

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 2>The one of the age old questions has been happening

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 2>for years, and it was brought up on this show,

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 2>which I love.

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Is who put housewives on the map. He is saying

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't be one if it wasn't for her.

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Luyne is saying New York and Orange County was neck

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 2>to neck. And then our girl Portia said how Alanta.

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.479
<v Speaker 2>She said, you guys may have opened up the door,

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 2>but Atlanta kicked it down, took the house and kicked

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 2>y'all out. Which I'll say this and I would love

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 2>to get her thoughts. My opinion is this and this

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 2>somebody that started Atlanta and Jersey. I don't care what

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 2>anyone says that I'm not being biased. Atlanta Housewives for

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 2>sure put housewives on the cultural map. Of mainstream America

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>and urban and I think that's what people are getting confused.

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 2>It's the same reason why Beyonce is the Queen of

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 2>music is because this black woman domin the white audience

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 2>and still maintained her urban audience as well. At the

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 2>end of the day, That's how I look at it. OHC,

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 2>New York, this is no shade to the show. Black

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 2>folks wasn't watching OC in New York like that. When

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta came, black folks watched it, and the white girls

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:18.399
<v Speaker 2>came and watch it too, and that's why that show

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 2>was number one for ten plus years.

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 4>I agree one hundred percent.

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 3>I am in one hundred percent agreeance with you, and

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about things that you know because you were

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 3>there quite literally you helped create that magic. So yes, absolutely,

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 3>Atlanta made everyone pay attention to the.

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 4>Other Housewives shows.

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 3>So the audience that Atlanta brought to the show then

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:44.240
<v Speaker 3>went and watched New York, then went and watched OC,

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 3>then was able to watch Beverly Hills once that came.

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Those black eyes also watched Salt Lake City. Right now,

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 3>we were not watching some of us, the majority of us,

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.800
<v Speaker 3>we're not watching the Real Housewives of Orange County or

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 3>the Real Housewives of New York. But I remember it

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 3>like it was yesterday. My sister called me and was like,

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 3>look at this. She was like, I think this is

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna be a good show. She was like, We're gonna

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.839
<v Speaker 3>have to watch this shit, and I'm like, what is it.

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 3>I remember, like it was yesterday. They were at I

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 3>think the photo shit was done at the Shaun Snow's house.

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I believe they were outside and like the dresses, like

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 3>bright colored dresses and shit. And I just remember being

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 3>like this, look before I had even seen an episode.

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to know about who these women were

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 3>and and I just I was hooked. And that is

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 3>what made me watch New Jersey from episode one first season,

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 3>because I had watched Atlanta, you know what I mean,

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 3>And so it created an appetite for that.

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 4>So, without a doubt, Atlanta is the star.

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:49.839
<v Speaker 3>Flat out Atlanta is the thing that took the Real

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Housewives machine over the top and made it the universe

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:57.879
<v Speaker 3>that it is today. Atlanta infuse star quality or an

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 3>element of it just made it appealing overall. That is

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent result of the success of the Real

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.959
<v Speaker 3>Housewives of Atlanta and that success is one hundred percent

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.359
<v Speaker 3>result of their cast and for that reason, a loan

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Nini is always gonna give respect from me, period.

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 2>And the facts are the facts, and that's just black

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 2>folks in my opinion at large was not watching OC

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 2>New York until Atlanta premiered, and it may pole go

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 2>back to watch the others iron people go tuned in

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 2>to all the things, and even now, like you said,

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:36.319
<v Speaker 2>with Salt Lake City, even Rhode Island like watching it

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>because of Atlanta. And that's something that I think people

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 2>have to understand. So yes, Vicki may have started it,

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:48.919
<v Speaker 2>but I really appreciated Porsche for defending her city by

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 2>by really intelligently understanding the impact he was able to

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 2>articulate it.

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>And I love the fact that Gazelle set their air

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 1>her food, you.

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 6>Know what I'm saying, Like, I'm.

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Not gonna argue with this, like it's the proofs in

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the pudding.

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 4>That's right.

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Pusha handled that and she represented for Atlanta and thanks

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 3>shout out to Porsche for that.

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 4>Well I'm not the.

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Girl, poor said, I am that girl. Okay, Vickie, have

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 3>you fucked up?

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:21.479
<v Speaker 6>Man?

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 3>She thinks she can do and say whatever she wants

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 3>to to these women on these shows and it's just

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 3>crazy to me.

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 2>So well, we're seeing that too because even as a

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 2>getting ready for the eighties party, Gazelle tosses to Luanne

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 2>and she's asking her like, are you and Vicki close?

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 2>And she was like no, like we're not close. She

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of has a mean streak. And then they flashed

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 2>back to Vicki talking about Tamra behind her back on

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 2>the boat and all the girls like you said, feel

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 2>like Vicki is a mean girl. And the funny thing

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 2>is Gazelle owning gets saying I thought I was gonna be.

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:02.919
<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to doing it.

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Listen, love her or hate her, anybody who can make

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 2>fun at what they're known for, it's always a winner

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 2>in my book. But Vicky's mean girl streak is definitely

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 2>something that I I did feel was suffocating me in

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:29.800
<v Speaker 2>this episode because it wasn't fun to watch.

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>It was definitely like, you're not like.

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 2>The thing is that Vickie acts like they owe her

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 2>something You're not like you you know, like everybody should

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 2>bound down on her as if she really is like

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 2>the Diana Ross, Beyonce, Michael Jackson of.

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 4>This thing she's not.

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Okay, she's not.

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 4>She's not even a She's not. I just put it

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 4>like that. She's not. And so I don't know.

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 3>I think this is gonna be an interesting ride watching her,

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 3>because Vicky has one of those personalities that your patients

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 3>will run thin very fast and you'll find yourself in

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 3>a peculiar situation. Peculiar situation because you ben cuss her

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 3>to funk out and then realize you did it afterwards,

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 3>like damn, I shouldn't have talked to her like that.

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 4>But she drives a person to that point.

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 3>So these antics I don't think are going to be

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:26.800
<v Speaker 3>sustainable for her.

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:29.280
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So we'll see.

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Well this is what we saw, Dustin.

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 2>So at the eighties party, the OC Grillies are there,

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Shannon shows up, Tamar shows.

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Up, have a debro. You know, Joe, I'm having a

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>brain fart.

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't know her either.

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jenna, Gina, Gina, Oh yeah yeah yeah. So in

0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 2>my pinion, Dustin, I have to brown Giselle Kobe Bryant.

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 4>She proved you right.

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 3>From day from from the from the from her first scene,

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 3>she was getting it cracking, she was connecting the dots,

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:19.239
<v Speaker 3>she was identifying connections and breaks and all the other

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 3>ship she was. She was calling out and highlighting all

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 3>of the things that could somehow be a source of

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 3>interesting conversation. And she literally proved your point in this

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 3>episode in her confessionals for the episode, in scene with

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:37.320
<v Speaker 3>the women, she literally proved your point. She was absolutely

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 3>the force multiplier in this episode, pulling Timmor in her

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 3>bathroom like that. So I don't know if you know,

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.879
<v Speaker 3>but if he said you she just trust you, and

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 3>she said that you like that. She literally pulled her

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 3>to the side and handled that you know what I'm.

0:46:51.440 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 6>Sayings and she whispers to the point, I.

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 4>Don't know if you know, why would you eat?

0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Because she so she doesn't trust you, No, she doesn't.

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 3>And she said that she is going to let you

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:20.280
<v Speaker 3>know when you get that tonight.

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I don't know, Joe, let's come on like that.

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 3>That's how she That's literally how she was talking to

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Tamor in that bathroom. Now, Tamra threw that uno reverse

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 3>because that's going from OG to O G. Tamra really

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 3>don't need no help. She took the allue, but she said,

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna cause no problems with what I'm gonna.

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 4>Do instead and say, look, she told me this about you.

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to fight with you, but I'm gonna

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:43.359
<v Speaker 3>tell you she told you so that now y'all can

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 3>go fight tamor.

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 4>That that is.

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 3>That is, that is the experienced housewife going against another

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 3>experienced housewife. And it made for great tv. You don't

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:55.880
<v Speaker 3>know which way this thing is gonna go, and so

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:01.799
<v Speaker 3>it was great, great television. But just they'll proved you right.

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 3>She was Jazell Kobe Bryant for sure.

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, she she she delivered and she is what

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I said. Gizell may not be the fan favorite, Gizelle

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 2>may not have iconic reads, but the one thing I'm

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:19.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna be odiest to understand is Gizelle puts herself in

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 2>the crossfire so that other people can have iconic moments.

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 2>That's why she's of course multiplier. Moniques bind her is

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 2>because of what Gazelle did. That's why moniques find the

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Iconicnique monique stand for homes.

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Karen's moment is Jamal coming jamming.

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of course, not that that moment.

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:44.720
<v Speaker 1>It just Kansas saying not today.

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Net all of those face if y'all look at it

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 2>it's because the Zell doesn't mind putting herself across fires

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 2>so that other people can shine. So to be in

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the middle of this tiny booth asking Shannon Tammer dusted

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:01.799
<v Speaker 2>like I can't do her in persons like Dustin can.

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:06.359
<v Speaker 4>But she's like, does do you hate her? Okay?

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:10.359
<v Speaker 3>Because because both y'll do okay, okay, okay, Like that's

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 3>what she does every time. So it was like, I said,

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.359
<v Speaker 3>that was good to see, man, and she proved you right.

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 2>No, it's it's masterful and that's why she continues to

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 2>get hired. In this moment, I'm watching OC and they're

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:30.760
<v Speaker 2>bringing up this moment on the show this season season

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty of O Sea Housewives, and in this moment, Dustin listen,

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Shannon is saying that they filmed last season.

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:40.400
<v Speaker 1>She's trying to move forward.

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Tamar asked when, and then this is when Tamara went

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.920
<v Speaker 2>to me below the bell. She says she is good

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 2>because I'm the one that has a husband, kid's going

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 2>to college.

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm the one that has everything. I Am not struggling

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:56.640
<v Speaker 1>right now.

0:49:57.040 --> 0:50:00.839
<v Speaker 2>Shanna calls Tamra delusional, and Tamra's said she's not the

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:01.279
<v Speaker 2>one that.

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't believe she did that. I could not believe

0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 3>she did that. I could not believe that she did that.

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 3>When she did that, I could not believe it. Carlos,

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm not knowing who I was, Tamera. So yeah, she

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:27.319
<v Speaker 3>went there, she went there.

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:31.200
<v Speaker 1>She listen, she went there, and now we know why.

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Spoiler alert.

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 2>They weren't invited to the finale at Derenda's place, just.

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Like who wasn't oh t for you? That's not that's

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 1>a secret. Look, I'll think it is.

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Well whatever we on Patriot, I think.

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:57.919
<v Speaker 7>Talked about it all her podcasts, so so dustin this

0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 7>episode that we just watched the first episode season twenty,

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 7>my season twenty, but the twentieth anniversary.

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.720
<v Speaker 1>That argument between.

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Tamra and Shannon happened maybe three weeks before filming OC.

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Apparently what we saw was just a smidge of how

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 2>bad it was because it was going to affect them

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 2>filming the season of Orange County at Derndas. What's it

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:35.799
<v Speaker 2>called the Bluston thank You, thank You, Bluestone manor that's

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the finale.

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:38.359
<v Speaker 1>So all the girls are going, all the.

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Housewives the big it's a big finale. Andy Cohen shows

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 2>up Unfortunately, Tamra and Shannon were disinvited because of that

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 2>moment because they did not want round two that would

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 2>impact the production.

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:57.200
<v Speaker 4>Yes, wow, damn Tamra.

0:51:59.160 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 1>That's I'm bad.

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And Shannon is ghetto. So Shannon will like she'll

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.319
<v Speaker 3>argue and ship like you could, like she's ghetto like that.

0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:09.479
<v Speaker 3>She don't care where they are, you know what I'm saying.

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:11.800
<v Speaker 3>She'll going and get up at the table and yell

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.439
<v Speaker 3>and walk off. She got that ghetto, you know, shit

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.239
<v Speaker 3>in her, so she definitely would have.

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Terror's ghetto too.

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:20.440
<v Speaker 3>She don't mind yelling and throwing, breaking the glass and

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.280
<v Speaker 3>screaming in somebody's face. So they didn't want that ghetto

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<v Speaker 3>shit at boost on. It makes sense to me. I

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<v Speaker 3>just hope the ghetto shit is on this season of OC,

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<v Speaker 3>because now you got me wanting to watch. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>gonna watch it because I literally didn't want to look

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<v Speaker 3>at Vicky on the screen. So that you care me

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<v Speaker 3>this is going on, I will literally I might have

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<v Speaker 3>to watch O see.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well, let's see if it actually some drama happens,

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<v Speaker 2>because as of now, I will tell you you're not

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<v Speaker 2>missing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I will. I won't let you know to watch it, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't been able to watch it ever since Emily

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<v Speaker 3>was drinking with that dog. Did you see that scene

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<v Speaker 3>when Emily was and I can't even talk right now

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm about to throw up, the way that she

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<v Speaker 3>was drinking that water with that dog and using the

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<v Speaker 3>spot eating what she eating with it, her something her

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<v Speaker 3>and the dog was eating an ice cream cone or

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<v Speaker 3>something together with the dog, and she was saying how

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:15.319
<v Speaker 3>the dog's mouth is cleaner than her. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>disgusting and I couldn't. I can't watch that. So I

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<v Speaker 3>have a hard time watching that shit.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't watched The Souls since that moment, not like

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<v Speaker 1>five years ago?

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<v Speaker 4>Well maybe I did, look, I think maybe three, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, but I look.

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<v Speaker 3>That fucked me up. Okay, Emily doing that was just

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<v Speaker 3>it was nasty. Okay, I couldn't watch that shit. No

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<v Speaker 3>more so. But this, if we get a Tamera versus Shannon,

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<v Speaker 3>and if we could get a Tame reversus Vickie, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tune in to Ocie again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I would love to see that and listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this the way this ended with Vickie

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:03.239
<v Speaker 2>telling Tamera Gizille's Aposta.

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<v Speaker 1>And out of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing we know is Gizelle is not going down

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<v Speaker 2>without a fight and that. Oh and and we know

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<v Speaker 2>that her bestie Porsche ain't gonna let her handle that

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<v Speaker 2>alone either.

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<v Speaker 4>M M.

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<v Speaker 3>So I can't wait, come on with to come on,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, I'm ready for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yes, So listen. I thought this was a

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<v Speaker 2>great premiere.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought fantastic. Actually yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is, I feel like they did a good

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<v Speaker 2>job with highlighting the past iconic moments leading us into

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening today. Even though Porsche is the only one

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a Season one girly, I will say her energy,

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:51.200
<v Speaker 2>her youthfulness, she adds so much comedy to this.

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<v Speaker 4>So much.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that she talked about not having fingernails and

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<v Speaker 2>the girls to get.

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<v Speaker 3>It, and I could not believe she said like sh oh,

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<v Speaker 3>because you you know, I said, yo, Porscha, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>That was hilarious, hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why you need someone like her.

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<v Speaker 2>So the thing is, Porscha doesn't have fingernails because she

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<v Speaker 2>has to use her fingers when she's playing in the

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom with Sway.

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<v Speaker 1>And use that to your imagination.

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<v Speaker 4>How you want it.

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<v Speaker 2>So, a lot of lesbians they don't have long fingernails or.

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<v Speaker 4>They have all their nails long, except for like these two.

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<v Speaker 3>So you ever seen people where they have like long nails,

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<v Speaker 3>but these two will be short.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? You ever noticed that you've seen women that have?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you taught me something today. I mean, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I don't have long nails.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't stand no edge on my I keep mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, I love you love this show. Can't wait

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:19.279
<v Speaker 3>to continue. I am, and watching this first episode has

0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 3>made me so excited about watching the rest of this

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:25.440
<v Speaker 3>season because I just I think.

0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:28.240
<v Speaker 4>It's really well produced. I love the include.

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Whoever's idea was to include all these housewives in addition

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<v Speaker 3>to the main cast and celebration of the twenty years, kudos, kudos,

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 3>because I'm excited this is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>So rain Drops, Dustin and I are going to recap

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:52.840
<v Speaker 2>every single episode of this special. So make sure you

0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 2>guys tune in to pay Tronic for Monday to check

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:58.440
<v Speaker 2>it out, and you know to find Dustin alonga Claudia

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<v Speaker 2>and Blue Monday Night for Monday Night Live, and we

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:07.840
<v Speaker 2>will be recapping part one reunion of Atlanta Housewives.

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.160
<v Speaker 1>And Part two reunion of Bail Collective.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes the hell we will. I cannot wait. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>wait so good. We'll get to that. Look, we'll get

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<v Speaker 3>We're not there yet, We'll get there. We'll get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we will.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, brother, and I'll see you with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,

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