1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: I Am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobelt 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Podcast on the iHeartRadio app caf I Am six forty 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. It's John Cobelt's show 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: on from one to four and then after four o'clock 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show on demand. Whatever you missed you could 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: pick up there. We're gonna put on Blake trolley in 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: just a minute. But you heard Deborah reporting that the 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs Parades, somebody opened fire, killed one. I 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: see an ABC report that maybe nine injured, three critically five. Seriously, 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: I'm sure those numbers will change, but that's bad news. 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: And then just handed to me, And this story has 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: been building all day. The Republicans in Congress are warning 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: that there's a national security threat and it's about Russia 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: wanting nuclear weapons in space. I don't know if my 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: bunker can withstand a nuclear weapon coming at us from 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: the sky. So we'll have more details on that as 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: they trickle out. Then here in La, you have this 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: ridiculous skyscraper situation downtown. It's rightnear Crypto dot com. In fact, 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: if you were watching the Grammys the other night, they 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: had an opening shot with Trevor Noah the host, and 21 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: in the background you could actually see this stupid thing 22 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: which had thirty floors spray painted with that idiotic graffiti, 23 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: which is art for morons. And now there are people 24 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: climbing up there and jumping off. It's called base jumping, 25 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: and they're jumping off the skyscraper and then paragliding down 26 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: and Karen Bass is clutching her pearls, well, somebody might die. 27 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: It's like, well, so you jump off of skyscraper, what 28 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Now? They want Now, Kevin de 29 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: Leon wants to spend about four million dollars to secure 30 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: this skyscrape. Early police chief says he doesn't have enough 31 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: personnel or money to do that. Let's get Blake trolley. 32 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: This thing is really spiraled out of control. Lake. 33 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: How are you hey, John? 34 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: Good? 35 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 36 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: Kevin deleone asking for about four million dollars to clean 37 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: up and secure the now infamous Ocean Wide Plaza. Dalle 38 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: Oon's motion says that more than one million dollars would 39 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: go towards fencing and securing the building's ground floors. Now, 40 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: I haven't actually accessed this building, John, but I have 41 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: covered it a few times now, And I was at 42 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: the building recently and another reporter told me that he 43 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: was able to get on the site relatively easily. You know, 44 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: around the building there really is just a chain link, 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: kind of flimsy fence around it. 46 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: Well, you take about this, take a backpack and a 47 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: parachute with you, and uh, we can broadcast it live. 48 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: You're not going to be running a base jumping service 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: out there. Well, well, anyways, I guess it's pretty easy 50 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 2: to get on there, and kind of makes you wonder 51 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: why we're just hearing about people breaking into that building. 52 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: You know, construction stalled on that building in twenty nineteen, 53 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: so theoretically it's been vacant for quite some time. So 54 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: it just caught on recently, and you kind of have 55 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: to wonder how people didn't catch on to this sooner. Well, anyways, 56 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: one million dollars to go towards fencing and securing the 57 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: building's ground floors. The other two point seven million would 58 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: pay for security services, fire safety upgrades, graffiti abatement and 59 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: other measures. Last week, the city council demanded the building's 60 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: Chinese developer, ocean Wide Holdings. This is a Beijing based company, 61 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: to clean up the building, remove the scaffolding, secure the site. 62 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: The council gave them until this Saturday. 63 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: To do so. 64 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: Else the city said it would do the work then 65 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: build the developer. So it to here's this move is 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: moving in the direction of the city needing to do 67 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: the work. 68 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: They're going to build the developer who's in China. How's 69 00:03:59,320 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: that going to work? 70 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's obviously some questions as to how the 71 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: city will successfully collect from an overseas company, and the 72 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: maneuver officials appear to be setting up or at least attempting, 73 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: is to put a lien on the building. But I 74 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: still have my own questions on that lean. Given that 75 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: Kevin de Leone was on the floor of city council, 76 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: he's got obviously a lot of knowledge about this. This 77 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: building falls in his district, and he said leans on 78 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: the building are already upwards of five hundred million dollars. 79 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 80 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: They there's a bed, they've abandoned the building. They're they're 81 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: they're they've washed their hands of it. They're not going 82 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: to they're not going to try to sell it. They're 83 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: not going to try to uh fix it. They're not 84 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: going to build the rest of it. They've written it 85 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: off already. 86 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: A California Pellic card has already blocked the foreclosure sale 87 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: of this building, essentially to figure out which of the 88 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: people who worked on this building that say their own 89 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: money are going to be paid first. So I would 90 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 2: imagine LA wouldn't fall first in line when that money 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: starts coming down. 92 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: No, we're going to have to eat the cost. Either 93 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: that or let all these base jumpers just go splat 94 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: on the ground. Why should we spend four million dollars 95 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: to save their and to save their lives that they're 96 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: dumb enough to do it. 97 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: I don't jo that there is one thing that I 98 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: thought you'd find funny. Kevin de Leon has had to 99 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: do this a couple of times, and he did this 100 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: at city Hall last week. I don't know who's pushing 101 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: for this, but he's pushing back on some sort of 102 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: calls that he's getting to take that building. And mind you, 103 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: this was supposed to be luxury condos, a mall he's 104 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: getting put. People are pushing him to turn it into 105 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: homeless housing. Dot com arena, I want to go to 106 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: this sound by here's da leone breaking down the cost 107 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: to make that happen. 108 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: This three tower Ocean Wide Developments has an estimated five 109 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: hundred and four units. If in fact we were to 110 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: turn it into homes's housing and we actually had one 111 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: point five billion dollars in a round, that would come 112 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 4: to a total of three million dollars on a price 113 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: per unit basis on homeless housing, not luxury housing, by 114 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 4: the way, not penthel sweet housing, you know, for VIPs, you. 115 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: Know, the way California is going. At one point, that'll 116 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: sound like a great price. 117 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: That will be. That'll be the price of like a 118 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: double wide trailer. Yeah, you know, this is a fiasca. 119 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: How much would it take to blow the thing up, 120 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: like when they blow up those old casinos in Las Vegas. 121 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: I think they could do that. No, just dynamite. It's 122 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: not that expensive. 123 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 2: He got to wonder what they're going to end up 124 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: doing with that building. 125 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: You know. 126 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: One of the things that I read about this this 127 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: is just through some trade rag, but there was some 128 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: speculation that one of the reasons they're having a hard 129 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: time to selling that building is that this building went 130 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: into construction in twenty fifteen and developers now are looking 131 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: at this building saying that the design is behind modern times, 132 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: So developers don't want to go in and buy it 133 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: because they feel like they're going to have to gut 134 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: it and redesign it to get it going. Plus you 135 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: have to think from a real estate standpoint, if there's 136 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: some concerns that they'll even be able to sell that 137 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: many luxury condos down there in downtown La. 138 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: No, it's a dead building, it's a dead site. There's 139 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: nothing you can do. I think this is I think 140 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: this is my opinion. This is the legacy of Jose 141 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: Weezar's corruption, which I want to get into and is 142 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: worth checking into if you hear anything, because he was 143 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: in charge of these kind of developments, not only in 144 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: that district but for the whole city during the time 145 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: this thing was developed and was started, started its construction, 146 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: and it's another Chinese company, and Weezar went to prison 147 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: over bribes he took from a separate Chinese company. So 148 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: this just smells like a Jose Weezar production to me. 149 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: All right, Blake, good talking with you. 150 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 2: Thank you a RKS. 151 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: All right, and I'll get into that. I was exchanging 152 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: emails this morning with Daniel Guss from the Gus Report. 153 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: He's an independent journalist in LA and he by himself 154 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: extracts more useful news than the entire La Times Local 155 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: department combined. And we'll get into this. Is this a 156 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: leftover white elephant from the Weezar corruption rain? Talk about 157 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: that coming up at one thirty. I will at one third, 158 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you all the information about the show 159 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: we're going to do a week from tomorrow, right, yeah, 160 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: a week from tomorrow at the Honda Center in Anaheim 161 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: to sign a petition. It's a referendum that will rewrite 162 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: Prop forty seven, it'll fix Prop forty seven. I'll give 163 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: you the details. We're going to do a live broadcast 164 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: from Anaheim at the Honda Center, and those details coming 165 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: up after one thirty. And we're also going to talk 166 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: with Mike hestrin the Riverside County DA And we got 167 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars to give away, and we got to 168 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: do this, and we got to do that, and we 169 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: got you're. 170 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 5: Listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six forty. 171 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's continue because this this downtown graffiti covered 172 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: abandoned off office tower. Actually it's not an office tower. 173 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: It was going to be a luxury condo tower seems 174 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: to be captivating everyone because it really, this really is 175 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: a monument to Los Angeles corruption. This is the corruption 176 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: of the Eric Arceti years, of the years when Herb 177 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: Wesson was the LA City Council, of the corruption of 178 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: Jose Weezar, the corruption that continues to this day. And 179 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: there's something comical about the current Mayor Karen Bass standing 180 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: outside going, oh, but it's going to be so dangerous 181 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: for these people, Ibby, somebody might get killed, you know what. 182 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: The real story of this is not a bunch of 183 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: jackasses jumping off to go paragliding. The real story is 184 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: that this was a Chinese company that was involved with 185 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: the LA government. And we know Weezar has already been 186 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: convicted along with many other people at city hall and 187 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: lobbyists and developers. They were all convicted of bribery scandals 188 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: because these these companies were paying, like Jose Weezar, big 189 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: money kickbacks in order to get a smooth permitting process 190 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: so they could construct their their their towers, whether it 191 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: was a condo tower, a hotel, an office building, or 192 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: some combination. What you had to do when Herb Wesson 193 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: and Jose Weezar were running things. You had to play ball, 194 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: and you have to play ball, specifically with Weezar, and 195 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: he was. He was making big money. Now I talked 196 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: to Daniel Guss, who's an independent journalist. We've had him 197 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: on many times. Gus Report is something you definitely want 198 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: to subscribe to because he's like the last guy who 199 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: does who covers a city hall and city government as 200 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: a as a regular beat. And nobody at the Elsie 201 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: Gundo Times does this anymore. And when they find stuff, 202 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: they they don't publish it. They do everything they can 203 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: to protect ruling powers. And I said to him this morning, 204 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: I go, it was just a hunch. I go, is 205 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: this something to do Jose Wezar? Again? Wesar's already prison 206 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: for another Chinese company bribe scheme, right, And he realized 207 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: he wrote about this two years before Weezar was arrested. 208 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: He had a story in November of twenty eighteen about 209 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: an FBI raid that it may be linked to an 210 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: la real estate property developed by ocean Wide Holdings in Beijing. Well, 211 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: that's who owns the building in question, ocean Wide Holdings, 212 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: as well as shen Zhen Hazen's in Shenzhen China. Yeah, 213 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: and that was the company that was involved in the 214 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: scandal that Wesar went to prison for. Because Herb Wesson 215 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: was the city council president from twenty twelve to twenty twenty, 216 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: and he was the one who decided who chaired and 217 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: who was appointed to all the council committees, and Wesson 218 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: appointed Weezar to chair the Planning and Land Use Committee, 219 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: also known as the PLUMB Committee. PLUM was where any 220 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: and all developments are approved or rejected. Since Weezar was 221 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: its chair, he essentially controlled all development in LA And 222 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: this thing started construction in twenty fifteen. By twenty eighteen, 223 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: there's an FBI raid looking at the parent company. At 224 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, the parent company, ocean Wide Holdings, abandons the building. 225 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: This is before the COVID shutdown. You know, there are 226 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: plenty of buildings that might have been abandoned during the 227 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: COVID shutdown, but not this one. And they scooted it 228 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: out of the country. And as Blake mentioned in the 229 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: last segment, there's hundreds of millions of dollars in leans 230 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: against this bill, but nobody's ever gonna buy it. It's 231 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: it's now nine years out of date. Architecturally, no one's 232 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: gonna buy it, nobody's gonna fix it, nobody's going to 233 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: complete the construction. It's just gonna sit there. And Karen 234 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: Bass because she's incompetent, and the police chief of La 235 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: Michael Moore, because he's incompetent, they didn't do anything to 236 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: fence it off, to secure the property, and all of 237 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got dozens of floors of graffiti that 238 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: the whole world could see. The whole world literally could 239 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: see it during the Grammy telecast when they did that 240 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: opening out door shot with Trevor Noah, because that was 241 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: that was taped during daylight if you remember, the show 242 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: obviously ran at night after the sunset, but he taped 243 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: the piece while the sun was still out and they 244 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: were what was in fact fact, it was raining that night, 245 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: wasn't it. Who knows when they taped him. Anyway, you 246 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: could see the skyscraper in the background with all the graffiti. 247 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: That's that's the monument Los Angeles has to show off 248 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: thirty floors of graffiti on an abandoned skyscraper that might 249 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: have been put together by a corrupt city councilmen and 250 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: city council and of course bass leaves it unattended. Now 251 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: there's people jumping out of it, and she goes, oh no, 252 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: what if they kill themselves? Yeah? What if they kill themselves? Yeah? 253 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: Big loss? Right, young guys who jump off you know, 254 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: thirty story buildings. Boy, we want to preserve that gene pool, 255 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: don't we. We want to preserve the artistic genes of 256 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: all the graffiti taggers, don't we? Because it's beautiful art, 257 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: isn't it. It's like, just did you feel like you're 258 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: living in a san asylum? I mean, really an insane asylum. 259 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: And now Michael Morri's crime poor saying I don't have 260 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: the money for this. I don't have the personnel for this. 261 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: Hey defund the police. This is what you get. I 262 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: don't understand. You ever try to add an addition to 263 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: your house, remodel something. You know what the permit process 264 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: is like? Right, you can be spending like five thousand 265 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: dollars on some improvement to your house and you've got 266 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: to go through the whole permit process and there's all 267 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: sorts of rules and regulations and paperwork. You got a file. 268 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: But this company, whoa look at this? They left this 269 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: thing half built to rot. All these lings are against it. 270 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: Huge safety had hazard, huge magnet for every morning in 271 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: the world. Oh yeah, we're gonna send a bill. We're 272 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: gonna send a bill and they're gonna get an invoice 273 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: from us. Yeah, I'm sure there's a scandal attached. And 274 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: maybe it's never gonna be investigated fully because they already 275 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: got we's are on the other Chinese development developers scandal. 276 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: So maybe we'll never know the whole truth. But there's 277 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: something up here, and everybody at City Hall knows it. Fortunately, 278 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Garcetti is hiding in India. When we come back, we're 279 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: going to talk to Mike Hestron, the Riverside County District Attorney. 280 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: We've got a big event that we're going to do 281 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: Prop forty seven next Thursday. We're going to repeal Prop 282 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: forty seven, and the whole process has started. The event 283 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: that will greatly revise Prop forty seven will be Thursday, 284 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: February twenty second at the Honda Center in Anaheim. I 285 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: will give you details on that. We'll talk to Mike 286 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: Hestrin about what this particular referendum will do to Prop 287 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: forty seven. That is next Keep. 288 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 5: Listening, you're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI 289 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 290 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: Just one more thing on the graffiti monstrosity that Karen 291 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Bass and the police chief Michael Moore have no idea 292 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: what to do with. You got people now jumping off 293 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: and paragliding after all the graffiti work. Rick Caruso weighed 294 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: in and said, this goes to the depth of foolishness 295 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: on the leadership of the city. Maybe it's because none 296 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: of them have ever been in business, but who are 297 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: they going to send the bill to a lot of 298 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: bad policies that have been going on for years. I 299 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: expressed this some Ara Garcetti many many times. LA is 300 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: overly dependent on money coming in from China. The housing 301 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: markets in downtown was mostly Chinese money, and we found 302 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: out with Jose Wezar why that was because some of 303 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: those developers were willing to pay big bribes, and you 304 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: had people in LA government willing to take the bribes. 305 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: And I think this is only the tip of all 306 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: the corruption that's been going on in Los Angeles, which 307 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: is why LA looks the way it does and feels 308 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: the way it does. Let's talk to Mike Hestern. Now 309 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: he's the Riverside County DA. This is so important. It's 310 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: only a couple of things you have to do in 311 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: the next month. You do these two things and life 312 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: is going to get better. One is you vote against 313 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: Gascone on March the fifth and the primary, or you're 314 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: mail in ballot or you're walking ballot, just you don't 315 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: vote for Gascon. Secondly, is you come Thursday the twenty second, 316 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: February twenty second to the Honda Center in Anaheim. Come 317 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: to parking Lot four. We're going to be there doing 318 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: our show from one to four and there's going to 319 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: be petitions available. These This petitions will put a referendum 320 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: on the ballot that will greatly revise Prop forty seven, 321 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: and we'll get to have it for all the counties 322 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: in the region. Okay, Orange County, La County, Riverside, San Bernardino, Ventura, 323 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: San Diego. So it doesn't matter if you don't live 324 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: in Orange County. You can come anyway and sign it 325 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: and you take the ball Road exit, go east to 326 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: Phoenix Club Road, turn south towards the Honda Center. You 327 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: have to enter from ball Road. All right, and we'll 328 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: keep explaining all this. Now we're going to talk to 329 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: Mike hestrin Riverside County, DA. Mike, how are you. 330 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: I'm well, thanks, John. 331 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: Well, we've tried the experiment now for ten years Prop 332 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: forty seven, which decriminalized a lot of crimes, and it's 333 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: been a disaster, hasn't it. 334 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: It's been a complete disaster and utter failure. 335 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: Did you see this coming when they I don't think 336 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: you were the DA then, but you're certainly a prosecutor 337 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: and keep on track of this stuff. What did you 338 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: see this coming? 339 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: I did? I saw this coming. Actually, this was an 340 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: issue during my first election. I ran for office or 341 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 3: was elected in June of twenty fourteen, and Prop forty 342 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 3: seven pasted in November of twenty fourteen, so it was 343 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: on the ballot of on the same time that I 344 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: was first running. And it's a disaster. It totally takes 345 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: the teeth out of the criminal justice system. And the 346 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: results have been, you know, terrible for California. Our cities 347 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: are in shambles and all of the results are were 348 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: predictable back then, and unfortunately they've they've they've it's come 349 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: to fruition and you know, everybody's predictions and fears about 350 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: what would happen if you made all drug addiction basically 351 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: legal and took theft and made it so that there's 352 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 3: virtually no punishment, no accountability all across California. Yeah, a 353 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: stealing grand experiment to do. 354 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: Stealing stuff is practically legal. Taking drugs in public is 355 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: practically legal. You can even sell fentanyl put to people 356 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: and they die, and that's practically legal. And that's the 357 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: issues that this new referendum is going to address. 358 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 3: That's right. 359 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: So this will talk about what this this referendum will do. 360 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 3: So this referendum if it you know, obviously, if this 361 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 3: becomes law, it'll it'll take Let's let's take the theft 362 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: part first. It's several parts of it and it mirrors 363 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 3: Top forty seven. The theft part will say the law 364 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: will say that if you have two prior convictions for 365 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: petty theft, then the third one can be a felony 366 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: and the local date can charge you with a felony 367 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 3: and you'll be eligible to go into the local jail. 368 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: The fourth one will also be a felony and you'll 369 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: be eligible to go to prison. So it sends a 370 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: clear message to people, to criminals, and the messages you 371 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: have to stop stealing. You can't keep doing it, and 372 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 3: there's going to be a penalty and an increasing penalty 373 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: if you continue to do it. And it's just common sense, 374 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: you know, right someone, you know it's not it's not 375 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 3: as if someone's going to prison on their very first time. 376 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: There's still a you know, kind of a graduated approach, 377 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: so you know, the message will be clear right now. 378 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 3: The message is there's noccountability, no no punishment, no matter 379 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: how many times. 380 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: You do it. 381 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: The new law will be, hey, look you're going to 382 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 3: have a chance, but real real, we're going to keep 383 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: a real short leash on this. If you continue to steal, 384 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 3: we're going to eventually send you to prison. Now, on 385 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: the on the drug addiction part it, the initiative will 386 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: classify five drugs as hard drugs, and that's going to 387 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: be methamphetamine, sentanyl, PCP, heroin, and cocaine, and those five 388 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: drugs will be under the under this law will be 389 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: considered hard drugs. Possession for any one of those will 390 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: follow the same model two prior convictions. After after two 391 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: prior convictions, the third conviction for a possession of one 392 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 3: of those hard drugs and the defendant will be eligible 393 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: for a new felony in California. It's going to be 394 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: called a treatment mandated felony. It's a new thing under 395 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 3: the law. Basically what it is, and it says you 396 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 3: have to go into treatment. Prostitute in charge of felony. 397 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: You go into court, judge is going to tell you, listen, 398 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: you have to go into treatment. If you refuse, you 399 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: get the punishment of a felony. But you have to 400 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: refuse treatment. So if you go into treatment, you complete it, 401 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 3: you successfully complete it. Great, But the charges dismissed on 402 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: the fourth such possession, same deal, but you're eligible for prison. Now. 403 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: I want to I want to be clear, John, and 404 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: we're not trying to fill the prisons with drug addicts 405 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 3: now where drug addicts belong, but we've got to get 406 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: people into treatment because what's happening right now is they're 407 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: they're spilling out into our streets and setting up homeless 408 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 3: encampments and that's what's driving it. 409 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and that just can't be tolerated anymore. 410 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: And they're gonna they're gonna get they're gonna get three 411 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: shots at this and if they if they still violate 412 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: the law and they're still taking drugs, obsessing drugs. Then 413 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, for the sake of everybody, we and them 414 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: and the rest of us, then they got to go 415 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: to prison. And then the third thing this is going 416 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: to do is go after the fentanyl dealers, explain how 417 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: that changes. 418 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: Things, so it will put into law on admonition. And 419 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: this is really just common sense. It's just a warning. Basically, 420 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: if somebody deals fentanyl not causing death, just they deal 421 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 3: fetanyl or a fetanyl related crime, possession of fetanyl, they're 422 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 3: going to get a warning from the judge at their 423 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: conviction and it's going to say basically, dealing in fentanyl 424 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: is dangerous to human life. If you do it again 425 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 3: and someone dies, you could be prosecuted for murder. Simple, 426 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 3: just just a warning. And you know, let's hope that 427 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: most people get that warning and say I got to 428 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: change my ways here. 429 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: And then if they sell it to someone and the 430 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: customer dies, they will be prosecuted for murder. That's right. 431 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: It's just it mirrors the Watson advisement that's currently valid 432 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 3: under California law or DUIs. So if you pick up 433 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: a DUI tomorrow, you're going to go into court and 434 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: judge is going to tell you the same exact thing 435 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 3: about driving under the influence. It's just common sense. And 436 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 3: guess what if someone pay up a second DUI and 437 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: they kill someone, we charge them with murder in California. 438 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 3: So we should do the same for fetanol dealers. 439 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: All right, Mike, We're going to be gathering signatures at 440 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: the Honda Center in Anaheim to rewrite Prop forty seven Thursday, 441 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: February twenty second. They're going to collect petitions from one 442 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: to six pm. We're going to be on the air 443 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: from one to four pm. You're going to make it 444 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: out there, can you can you come? 445 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to do my best to get out there. John. 446 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: Can I tell you that the name of the initiative 447 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 3: is the Homelessness, Drug Addiction and Theft Reduction app. And 448 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: the website of some people want to go check this 449 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: out on their own is California. So Casafecommunities dot com, 450 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: Dasafecommunities dot com. It's this is long overdue. We've got 451 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: to take back our stand. 452 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: Well, we tried ten years of an experiment. It's been 453 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: it's just been awful. All right, Mike, talk again soon. 454 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on. Appreciate it. 455 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 3: Thank you boy. 456 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: All right, it's Mike Hestern, Riverside County, DA. Now we 457 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: come back and this is the only love related story 458 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to do today. 459 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 6: Happy Valentine's Day by the way, Oh. 460 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: Happy Valentine's Day. How you're you're you're all furry in 461 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: red today? Pink pink? 462 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 6: Are you color blind? 463 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: I see shades of colors differently. 464 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 6: Okay, it's kind of a hot pink. 465 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: Is it a hot pink? 466 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 3: That's right? 467 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: Struck me as a as a darker pink. All right. 468 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 6: Uh. 469 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: In any event, you are furry though, that's for sure. 470 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, it's. 471 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: Not a real pink animal. That was. 472 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 7: Uh. 473 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about how some men are 474 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: falling in love means. You know, people have had male 475 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: order brides, and then they had blow up dolls and 476 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: now it's AI generated love interests. People are falling in 477 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: love with fake artificial intelligence women online. More coming up. 478 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty. 479 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 8: All right, are actually going to go to a news 480 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 8: conference on an update on the parade shooting. 481 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 9: Aid to folks who are seriously injured without concern for 482 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 9: the shootings and the challenges that were near them. This 483 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 9: is absolutely a tragedy the likes of which we would 484 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 9: have never expected in Kansas City, and the likes of 485 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 9: which we will remember for some time. However, I want 486 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 9: to say thank you to those who are making sure 487 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 9: that we are safe today, those who are investigating this incident, 488 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 9: and those who will continue to make sure that those 489 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 9: who committed these acts today are brought to justice. We'll 490 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 9: come back for some questions at the end of the 491 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 9: chief's comments, but now the police. 492 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: Chief, Stacy Graves. 493 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 7: The Chief Stacy Graves kensiem is a re police department. 494 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 7: At the conclusion of the chief's rally today, there were 495 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 7: shots fired on the west side of Union Station. Immediately 496 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 7: officers responded to the area, took two people into costody, 497 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 7: and also immediately rendered life sustaining aid to those victims. 498 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 7: We're still gathering information on the number and the status 499 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 7: of victims, but like I said, we know that one 500 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 7: of the victims is deceased. We also know that officers 501 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 7: ran towards danger. Officers were there to keep everyone safe. 502 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 7: I'm angry at what happened today. The people who came 503 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 7: to this celebration should expect a safe environment. We had 504 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 7: over eight hundred law enforcement officers Kansas City and other 505 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 7: agencies at the location to keep everyone safe because of 506 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 7: bad actors, which were very few. This tragedy occurred even 507 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 7: in the presence of uniformed law enforcement officers who again 508 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 7: ran towards them and took them into custody. People who 509 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 7: were injured in this tragedy, Our hearts go out to 510 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 7: you and your families. This investigation is just beginning and 511 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 7: we are working safely to clear all surrounding areas and businesses. 512 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 7: This is still an active investigation. We will continue to 513 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 7: keep you updated. 514 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: We will keep you. 515 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 7: Updated on Twitter and most likely a follow up press availability. 516 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: Did jeffyth. 517 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 7: Let No one of our victims has been declared deceased. 518 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: We have. 519 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: All right. That was a press conference from Kansas City 520 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: where they had a shooting near the parade celebrating the 521 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl victory. We'll have more right 522 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: after this after at two o'clock. The defense is now 523 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: defending Rebecca Grossman in that trial. She ran over two 524 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: young kids back in September twenty twenty. She was out 525 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: drinking with a boyfriend. Rebecca Grossman is the wife of 526 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: the doctor Peter Grossman, who started the Grossman Burn Center. 527 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: He testified on her behalf today and she's trying to 528 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: get out of this double death accident. But you know, 529 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: they got all the evidence that it was her car, 530 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: and the defense just keeps saying, Oh, it wasn't her car, Well, 531 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: it was her car. Talk about that. Corbyn Carson was 532 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: at the trial. Yeah, this is the one love story 533 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about here. Derek Carrier was profiled 534 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: by the Associated Press. His girlfriend was generated by artificial intelligence. 535 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: It's thirty nine years old. He has something called martha 536 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: and syndrome, so he looks unusual and it's a lot 537 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: of health disorders there. So he's very lonely, and he 538 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: tried out this companion app called Paradox, and he's fallen 539 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: in love with this holographic woman who appears on well, no, 540 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: he named her after a holographic woman from a movie 541 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: name is Joy, but Joy on screen is an artificial 542 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: intelligence woman. Okay, And he's apparently fallen in love and 543 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: they talk every night for quite a while. And it's 544 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: not just people who have you know, genetic problems like 545 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: this guy. It's a lot of guys. These are guys 546 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: who have spent their whole life staring at screens. They're 547 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: socially undeveloped. They cannot deal with women, and so they've 548 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: got a fake woman who always loves them and always 549 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: says the right thing. 550 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 6: But there's nothing physical that's going to happen, right. 551 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. With a guy, you can never 552 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: tell oh oh oh oh oh. 553 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I stepped on that one. 554 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 8: Okay, you know, my mind doesn't always go to those 555 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 8: dark places. 556 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: You should know guys by now. 557 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 8: I know, I just you know, I know it takes 558 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 8: a while for me to guys. 559 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: Guys don't talk to women just for the thrill of 560 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: the conversation. 561 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know. 562 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: Okay, but the women or blow up dolls or AI women, 563 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: I know. 564 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 8: But I'm thinking of fake woman, right, So he's not 565 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 8: really with her, So there's no hugging or kissing. 566 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 6: Of the other person, that's right. But I understand where 567 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 6: you go. 568 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if he jumps on his PC or right, 569 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: it's just everything is in his head. But they really form, 570 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: they really form deep bonds. They get emotionally attached. Well, look, I. 571 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 8: Mean, you know, didn't we do some kind of story 572 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 8: about loneliness a while ago. So, yeah, good for people 573 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 8: that are lonely that they have they have something to 574 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 8: feel less lonely, as long as they're not hurting other 575 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 8: people or animals. 576 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: Because this girl not even scripted. Apparently she's been programmed 577 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: to respond spontaneously wow to whatever you know, and and 578 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: she goes along with things. 579 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 8: Oh well, yeah, I'm sure that's what guys like. A 580 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 8: woman who will go along with everything. 581 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: She's not programmed to be contentious. 582 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 6: So what are you saying, she's not programmed to. 583 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: Tell you what to do all day? 584 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 6: Well, what's the fun in that? 585 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: She's not programmed to judge what you're wearing? You know, 586 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: it's so funny. 587 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 8: That you said that, because for Valentine's Day, I did 588 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 8: buy my husband clothes right and there. 589 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: Because you don't like what he's wearing. 590 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 6: Well, there have been discussions about that. 591 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I wish I had a recording of the last 592 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: thing my wife says is we're going out the door somewhere, 593 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: and I could string all those compliments together. 594 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 6: You're not wearing that, are you? 595 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: Exactly? You're not wearing that? Are you? Boy? That would 596 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: be the title of a book. 597 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 6: There's a little chain right there. 598 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: See the AI girl never says that it's not programmed 599 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: into her. 600 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 8: Okay, but you know what, there's other benefits to having 601 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 8: a real lady. 602 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: This is my book. You're not wearing that, are you? 603 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: Why men go for AI women love it? There you go. 604 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: That is a bestseller, all right. When we come back. 605 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: Corbyn Carson on the Rebecca Grossman trial in Westlake. 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