1 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to I Do Part two. It is an innovative, 2 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: one of a kind experiment in podcasting and love so 3 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: out there. If you didn't find love the first time around, 4 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: we're telling you, it's okay. 5 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: We're with you. 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: We're here to tell you you can get the confidence 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: you need. 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: To get back out there and you love again. 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: Wow, you're already laughing at me. So apparently that was 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: not said confidently enough. I believe you. 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: I believe you. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: I believe I'm a believer. 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 4: Amen, Right, we are here. It is really really cool 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 4: to be in the room with all of these ladies 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 4: right now. I am one of your hosts, CJ. Holmes, 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 4: sitting next to my dear love Amy Rollbock and Jinny Garth, 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: one of our hosts here as well, is the first 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 4: time we've actually been able to be in the room 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: with her as we've done one of these We're so good, 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 4: Joined by a couple of our celebrity mentors and some 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 4: old friends of ours. Now when I say old friends, 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 4: I did. 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: Friends of ours way back with what friends? Yes, thank 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: you for getting It's okay. 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: Who's out from here? 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 5: From The Golden Bachelor and their podcast Bachelor Happy Hour 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 5: Golden Hour. We have Kathy Schwartz and Susan Knowles with 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 5: us today. 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 6: You guys, Yes, we're back. 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: We love having you. 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 5: Okay, we have to go because we had so many 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 5: questions last time that we needed more information. Keep going 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 5: because everything you have to say is like golden nuggets. 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: Is that that I could I could get some gold 35 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 5: out of your nuggets? And of course, like the conversation 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 5: between you two and just your beautiful relationship. I think 37 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 5: that's really iron for people to three times the m absolutely. 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 5: This is from Lisa Rogers. Okay, is there one dating 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 5: site better than the other. 40 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: I've never been on a dating site, so I could 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: not answer that question. 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: There are all the same people on all the same 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: dating sites. 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: They say the ones you pay for are better than 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: the free ones, but I don't find that to be 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: true either. 47 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 6: I mean, there's so many now it's overwhelming. 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: You know, you used to think that you're in a 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: big city. There's more people that I think it's harder 50 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: to meet people in a big city, like in New York. 51 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: People complain all the time, this is the worst. 52 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: Place in La youn't Philly. I think the reason in 53 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: big cities and my daughter said this, and I've had 54 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: several other friends say this. When you're in a big city, 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 2: like you can be on a date with a great 56 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: guy or a great woman and they're talking to you 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: and then they SEPs, they just wipe. 58 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: There's always someone job, prettier, younger, thinner, smarter, richer. No 59 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: that ha ha ha, but thank you very much. 60 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: I thank you. 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: No. But I remember my mom always telling me that, 62 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: she said, you can never when you're actually looking for someone, 63 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: if you get into this comparison business, which I think 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: the apps actually encourage and perhaps even make it sort 65 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: of addictive. But if you are always looking for what 66 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: if I could find something better, If you're in that mindset, 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: you'll never ever settle down or be okay with what 68 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: you have, or recognize the beauty or uniqueness of what 69 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: you have. So I think these apps unfortunately perpetuate that 70 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: right because you always do have another option, and it's 71 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: right through at your fingertips. That's got to be really tough. 72 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: You don't have to name it. But is there a 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: site that you've had more success on than another? Is 74 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: there not a front runner at all? 75 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: No? 76 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: For me, bumble. I met two guys on match that 77 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: were above ground and breathing. And then I met a 78 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: couple guys on the bumble that were worth having second 79 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: day with, but not you. 80 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: Know, not really coffee meets begel. They're all in New 81 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: York or North Jersey. It's about vicinities too. 82 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, where you're at look geographically desirul. 83 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: Yes, another question for your all here again no name 84 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: attached to this one, but it says, when do you 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 4: start having the money conversations debt, if you say, for retirement, 86 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 4: if your adult children are going to be taken care 87 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 4: of or independent financially, when you start having those money conversations. 88 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 6: Money's always tricky. 89 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: Well, you kind of just keep your eyes open in 90 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: the beginning and you can figure some of it out. 91 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't have a serious conversation of that nature 92 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: until you're deciding we're serious and we're going to take 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: this to the next level. 94 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 6: We're going to be exclusive. Well, no explicit of all that. 95 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: You just don't sleep with anybody else, right, who says, well, 96 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: I just found that what hooking up was a feature? 97 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: What hooking up means? She knew what making out. 98 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: With you're hooking up with somebody. I just I have 99 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: young daughters, so I know, so you know I did not. 100 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: I have a question on this. So I am probably 101 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: the senior member in this room, and I have to 102 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: be honest. Back to this question TJ that you just read. 103 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: If I met, please God, may it happen the man 104 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: of my second dreams tomorrow. I honestly, I have three children, 105 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: three grown children, and two grandchildren. My husband and I 106 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: worked really hard for the money that I have. I 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: want to leave the lion's share of the money I 108 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: have to my children and grandchildren. So I don't expect 109 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: a man to take quote unquote take care of me, 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: and I don't want to take care of him. So 111 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: I think at my age, it sort of would be 112 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: a more equal partnership financially, you know, as long as 113 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: he flies me first class wherever we want to go, 114 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: that doesn't hurt. But I'm just saying I want so, 115 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: I don't you know, it's not like pooling money. I 116 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: would expect to share expenses. If we bought a house together, 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: we'd own it together. We would share the expenses together. 118 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: And I think that's different when you're young and raising 119 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: kids and you're meeting some well. 120 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: Anybody our age out there looking for somebody to keep 121 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: them a. 122 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: Nurse and as I mean, it's just a nurse or 123 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: a person, thank you so much. 124 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't. 125 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so the money thing is always a tough one. 126 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: But I think you know, you and I haven't had 127 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: serious converse. I think until you go to live with 128 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: someone and merge households, you know, obviously you are going 129 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: to decide who should pay for dinners and like that'll, 130 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: I guess evolve naturally, but I don't know that it's 131 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: necessary unless you are like actually merging your families together, 132 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: merging your households together. 133 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 3: Do you have a retirement account? Do you have a 134 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: savings as that was one of the reasons that that 135 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: didn't work. Nothing, No, I mean I have, I have. 136 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm solely responsible for them, and I'm but I've 137 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: taken responsibility as a as a woman who has always 138 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: been a kind of a single mom to my children, 139 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: like in terms of financial responsibility. So I've I've set 140 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: that that ball emotion. I have a trust and that's 141 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: just something happened and I've operated. No, and I actually 142 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: only learned it after the second time around. So you 143 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: learn from past mistakes. How you protect your interests for 144 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: your children. And yes, when you have kids, and yes 145 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: we're talking to people with their second third time around, 146 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: you've learned, probably in painful ways, what you should have 147 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: done differently, and you make and expensive ways. But I 148 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: will tell you I have taken my daughters along that 149 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: journey with me to say, hey, don't ever rely on 150 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: someone else like that. 151 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: I want them. 152 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: That was the one thing I wanted for them from 153 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: the beginning was to say, hey, no matter what happens, 154 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: if you are financially independent in whatever way you live, 155 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: and you can live modestly, right to live within your means, 156 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: but then you have choices, and then you're empowered to 157 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: make the best decision for yourself. Yes, and that is 158 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: the gift I've hoped to give my daughters. 159 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 6: But I mean, that's why we're here. Yeah, you like 160 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 6: us to pass that. My father taught me that early on. 161 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: Don't depend on anybody but yourself. And if you when 162 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: and if you meet somebody that's your equal, that's even better, 163 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: But always depends on yourself first. 164 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 6: Choose yourself. 165 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: That's funny, you know. My parents told me go find 166 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: your prince charming. 167 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: And marry rich. 168 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: I don't any of that. My grandmother told my mother. 169 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: My mom didn't listen either. Is just as easy to 170 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: fall in love with the rich man as it is 171 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: a foreman. 172 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 2: I've heard. 173 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: And she laughed because she's like, wow, I did not 174 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: follow that advice. What would you think if you matched 175 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: or went on a date with someone who found out 176 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: that they hadn't been in a relationship in a long time? 177 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: Is that a red flag? 178 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: Well? 179 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: I think if someone took the time to work on themselves, 180 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: that's a good sign. Define how long. 181 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: I was going to say, what's a long time decade? 182 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: You know? I have some questions. 183 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: It depends on the age too, right, yep. And if 184 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: you're raising a family, if you have young kids and 185 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: you're raising you might not have. 186 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 3: It's two years a long time. 187 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 6: Yes, that'd be considered a lot. 188 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: I haven't been on a date. 189 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: I have even over two years. 190 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: I have been on a date in two years, two 191 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: years on a date or not on a date. 192 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: I didn't know that the last time we talked to you, 193 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 4: but I thought, don't you feel for us? 194 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: It's not something I like. Since no one's listening to 195 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: this at all, it's just us live in this room. 196 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: I have not been on a date. I have a 197 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: couple of male friends like I would, but not a date. 198 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 4: Last time we saw you all, I thought you would 199 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: just a date. 200 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: Yo, we were ready to date. 201 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 5: You were ready to yes, ready, I can assume and 202 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 5: would be very wondering, cautionary, reticent, thank you. 203 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 6: That's the story of our life. Oh, I know, we've 204 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 6: got to break that. 205 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: So people say, well, just for you less, Susan, be less. 206 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 6: Oh okay, we've. 207 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: Talked about this. We can only be who we are. 208 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 2: That's you know. I am authentically who I am, and 209 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: if you don't, I'm not everyone's cup of tea. And 210 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: I accept that, but I'm not going. 211 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: I am everyone's cup of tea. They're just being stupid, Kathy. 212 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 4: Have you all actually considered it, taken moments, and you 213 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: know what, maybe we do need to change things up 214 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 4: a little bit because there's so many people to give 215 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 4: relationship advice, to tell a woman to be a little this. 216 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: Don't be so we have some mine in the studio. 217 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 4: Don't be so bossy. You gotta kind of. 218 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: Save that for the boardroom. 219 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: In the bedroom. 220 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: You need to take right. 221 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: She made a total point, like you need to let 222 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: him be the man. And that's a hard thing to hear. 223 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: I leave when I dance. 224 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: Are you kidding? 225 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: I got it? 226 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: I was standing on the bell. We did like eight 227 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: count of eight. 228 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: He goes, wait a minute, I lead Susan always, No. 229 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: That's the weirdest. 230 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 6: Women were built to be strong and take care of ourselves. 231 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: There are men so intimidated, j there are We've got 232 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: a man in the house. 233 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 4: Well, that's tough for me to answer, because I'm with 234 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: this one. This is the strongest, most stubborn, bullheaded, selfish, arrogant. 235 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: This don't this is who I'm with. I mean, So 236 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 4: it's tough to You have to be friends first, Well 237 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 4: you have to, but you have to have some kind 238 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: of confidence in yourself to be with a woman as 239 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: strong as you. 240 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: You you and you you have to So where are 241 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: they all? What rock are they hiding under? 242 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: What would you change about us? 243 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: We don't have enough time. 244 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, see that's the thing. And it almost breaks 245 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: my heart because we have plenty of conversations on our 246 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 4: show about it with different women about like trying to 247 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: alter or change anything about who you are to make 248 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: this guy feel better about himself. So that he can 249 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: then ask you out, and it's just too much of 250 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: a game. And we're too we're grown, we're adults at 251 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: this point. 252 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: One thing I learned that this is something I practice 253 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: when you're in the restaurant. You don't talk to the waiter. 254 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 3: You let him talk. That's like a chore for me. 255 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: It's like I got something to say, but I have 256 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: to let the man take the lead. 257 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: That was difficult. 258 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: I have to let the man take the lead. 259 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 4: That's still a thing. Is that register with you at already? Don't? 260 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 4: I don't. 261 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 6: I don't know. That feels so weird. 262 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 5: But maybe that's a generationally maybe older men feel differently 263 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 5: about that. 264 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: But oh yeah, that's a good point. 265 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 5: My husband would never be offended if I took the 266 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 5: leader you know he has. He doesn't get threatened by 267 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 5: my strength. 268 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 3: I think you need Boddy should. 269 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: This is from Hannah Almer, I believe it's her name. 270 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: What is a good way? And by the way, Hannah, 271 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: if you know the answer or interview in this room, 272 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: tell me what is a good way to start dating 273 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: again after a long period of not wanting to date? 274 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: Any good advice on that? 275 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: Somebody to ask me? 276 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called. 277 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: I heard about the d MS. 278 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the other thing we talk about sliding 279 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: into our dates are frozen over. No, there's no sliding. 280 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: Maybe there's a lock box, guys. 281 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 4: We don't know. 282 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: We tried that too. That does do that. 283 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: What is the advice anybody good way to start dating again? Yeah, 284 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 4: for somebody who hasn't been. 285 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 6: I guess listen to your instincts. 286 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 5: If you've been, if you've taken some time and you've 287 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 5: done some work on yourself, you found that why place 288 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 5: to know who you are and find your strength as 289 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 5: a woman, Then listen to those instincts because they're not 290 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 5: going to take you to the wrong place. 291 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: Can I just tell you everyone told me to go 292 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 2: to golf courses because that's where single men are. I 293 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: have pitched a tent for the last two months at 294 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: a local golf course. I haven't met one guy yet. 295 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of them on the golf course. 296 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: They're laughing, but they're all married, like married. I have 297 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: another anonymous question, Should we be more open to dating 298 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: people long distance? 299 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: I think I think that's tough. Especially I feel like 300 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: even at my age, it would just feel like a 301 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: time suck, Like why would I be wasting time? Travel? Like? 302 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: It depends on what you want. 303 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want a companion to see and 304 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: to be around and detext and to have fun. But 305 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: if you really want a partner who you're with day 306 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: in and day out, that's not you're just wasting time. 307 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, But what if the person you're madly in 308 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 5: love with it's a job and has to go somewhere else. 309 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: Oh that's different then, and you can't go with him? 310 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 6: Like, how do you do that? 311 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: Kind of why can't you go with him? 312 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: That was my difference. It's a different Are we established 313 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: as a couple before we have to move across country 314 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: from each other? 315 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: Oh? 316 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 6: Do you consider? 317 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, that's I consider that. If we're already establishing, 318 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 4: we're good to go. That's one thing versus starting initially 319 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: having to kind of get to know somebody in a 320 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: two hour flight away. 321 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: Well, what's happening for the last couple of years around 322 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: here is zero? I'm open to. 323 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: Can I just say? Ben Higgins, who we all know 324 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: and love. We had him on our podcast and he 325 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: talked about when he met his now wife that they 326 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: always every time they met because they lived in different cities, 327 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: it was in Denver. She was in Nashville when they met. 328 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: They would plan to see each other before they met. 329 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: They would already have the next time plan and they 330 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: would never be cry or sad. It would always be they. 331 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: I mean, and and you know it worked for them. 332 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: I think it's possible. I think it's difficult, but I 333 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: think it's possible. 334 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 5: I mean, what's long distance Europe. That would be across 335 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 5: the country. I think, you know, I've definitely that was 336 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 5: hard for my marriage. I know I didn't foresee that 337 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 5: visit in New York l A thing. Yeah, like across 338 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 5: the country sometimes on location. 339 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: Again, though you had young children, right, Jenny, three little girls, 340 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: it was a big deal. We could do it, Susan, 341 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: I do New York l A. I would do it. 342 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: I would do it. 343 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 6: I think once the kids come into the situation, we're 344 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 6: beyond kids. 345 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: We're good. 346 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 6: That's the that's the beauty of it. 347 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: Jenny and yours, how long were you all not seeing 348 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 4: each other? How long would you go without seeing your 349 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: husband at the. 350 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 5: Time, Well, a shoot would be like at least four weeks. 351 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 5: But he was really good about trying to get back 352 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 5: to the kids every week. He really did go back 353 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 5: and forth a lot because it was easier for him 354 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 5: to go back and forth, you know, and then it 355 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 5: was for me to take the girls. 356 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 3: But you know, we absence makes the heart grow fonder, 357 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: like you miss him, and when you did see each 358 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 3: other it was even more exciting. 359 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 4: Or was it. 360 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 6: I would say it was a mix of both that 361 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 6: and the total opposite of that. Mm hmm. 362 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: Listen, Susan, we cannot complain if we get dates in 363 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: la you know, damn right, while you and I are 364 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: going back and forth, let's just cut to the church. 365 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: There's for you. Tom. 366 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: I'm in Philadelphia, Texas. 367 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 4: Okay, but I'm ready to move. 368 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Okay. 369 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 6: They're international. 370 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: I like that. 371 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: I have listen. I have two grandchildren and two kids 372 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: live in Austin, and I love my family and I 373 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: love my grandkids. That's what plans are for. I would 374 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: go back and forth. I hear you. I could do that. 375 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: It is one of those school things now that I'm 376 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: an empty nester, like the idea that like I can live. 377 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 6: This is a good one. Actually, what do you value 378 00:17:58,920 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 6: the most? 379 00:17:59,520 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: Confident? 380 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 6: Humor, attractiveness? 381 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: This is say them again. 382 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: I guess what my to you? 383 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 5: Confidence a sense of humor or attractiveness, the above. 384 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 6: The most important. 385 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: I like to say attractiveness. It's what I'm attracted to. 386 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, being good looking it's like being attractive. 387 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: So let's say attractive. I would say attractive is number 388 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: one because it's an umbrella for so many things. 389 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 6: But I like to laugh, you guys. 390 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 2: Number number two. 391 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: You can't make me laugh. 392 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: I don't even want attracted. 393 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: Agreed, and that is like the huge thing he and I. 394 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: I have never laughed along with the human in my life. 395 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: And confidence number three. 396 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean. 397 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: You can make actually agree you were in. Confidence is 398 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: absolutely the umbrella attract if you weren't the other two. 399 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 6: If a guy is medium, more strong, they can make 400 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 6: me laugh. He has confidence. 401 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: You can't be funny and not be smart, and. 402 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: So being attractive. Let me just sum this up. Let 403 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: me rank them all for you, Okay, Attractive is number one, two, three, four, 404 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 2: and five because under attractive comes attractive, good looking, smart, 405 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: intelligent sense of humor, compassionate, good sense of humor, covering. 406 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 3: Anybody out there, six one zero, and and the house 407 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 3: on Martha's vendered. 408 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 4: What about a confident guy who has no sense of UNI's. 409 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: A really funny guy who is just an idiot. Okay, next, good, good, 410 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 2: good job trying to sit that one. 411 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: Okay. 412 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 4: Do you think people come into your life randomly or 413 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: do you think it's the universe? Are you all universe? 414 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 6: A universe? 415 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 3: Universe? I've been practiced where I am right now right, 416 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: I think it's universe. 417 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, universe, absolutely. 418 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: I just don't have a vision board. I think I 419 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: need a vision board and put the man on. 420 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 6: There's what you got in your head, you need to 421 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 6: get out. 422 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 2: On a board. 423 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: I believe the reason season lifetime, I really do. I 424 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: think people can believe people come into your life for 425 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: a reason for a season all. 426 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: The time, all of us, I say, for all the time. 427 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: People come into your life for a reason in a season, 428 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: and the season might be a lifetime, but it's not random. 429 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree around A lot of randoms have. 430 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: Come into my life. But that's a whole other conversation. 431 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: I have come around to that thinking. I am sitting 432 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: here in a room with you full of women, full 433 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: of woman having a good glasses of wine. 434 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: Myss is empty college football game on having. 435 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 4: A good time with you all, And the only reason 436 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 4: I'm here is because everything had to go exactly the 437 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 4: way it went, and I'm happy where I am. So 438 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: that's why I regret is such a difficult word. I 439 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 4: would like to say that I'm happy where I am 440 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: the I've come around bridge. 441 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: This guy is a walking Hallmark No, no, but. 442 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: I think I love watching Hallmark movies. 443 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: By the way, the best try ever. 444 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: God, we will sit there and laugh. 445 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: We laugh. 446 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: And so how many times you've been married? 447 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 4: Too? 448 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: Okay, let's just say three and chill be number three? 449 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: Can I be number four? We stopped? 450 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 3: But three we stopped three? 451 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 4: Look at this, Kathy. 452 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 3: We have a long night ahead of us with this right, 453 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: flow your paste. 454 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: Seriously, this is an interesting question. Do people think rejection 455 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: is better than regret? 456 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: No? 457 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: No, you should pick another one. 458 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: That one doesn't even count. 459 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean, wait, it'd be better if somebody rejected you 460 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: rather than you are staying with them and then you 461 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: regretting being with them. Would you rather be rejected than 462 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: have time? I guess if you look at it from 463 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: that perspective, I guess what your mom said, better to 464 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: know in five months than in five years. So if 465 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: someone had to reject you for you to know, it 466 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: wasn't right versus waiting and wasting years and then regretting it. 467 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm too many pills and understand what you said. 468 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 6: I think I hear you like I would want to know. 469 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, as it's like ripping the band aid off. Rather 470 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: feel the pain now than slowly stings. 471 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: But you heal. Yeah, If the man you're dating is 472 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: paying alimony to his ex wife, how are you supposed 473 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: to plan your future? Do you need to hold off 474 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: on pressuring him? Pressuring? 475 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: Pressuring? 476 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: For you should never pressure a man to marry you ever, period. 477 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: Do not. 478 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: She's pressuring him about. 479 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: The ag him to get in a relationship, but he 480 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: has to pay alimony. 481 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: She wants him to be focused on her and her finances. 482 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: Pay alimony to an ex wife. It doesn't sound payment. 483 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: It is a it's a there's no emotion involved that 484 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: in fact, and damn whens is alimony going to be over? 485 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: And the word pressuring should never be in a woman's vocabulary. 486 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: I don't think it's not going to end well. If 487 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: you have to pressure a man to be with you, 488 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: it's not. 489 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 2: Going to do That's another thing we just learned pressure. 490 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 6: I did that right to wait, But I don't even 491 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 6: know what would pressure look like. 492 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: When getting married when all you're doing is paying money 493 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 2: to your ex wife everything? 494 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: What about our future? 495 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: What about our future? 496 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: When we have about where's my diamond ring? 497 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: Where's where's my name ring? What about our house? You're 498 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: paying so much money to Louise that you don't have 499 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: enough money to focus on. 500 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 6: It does not sound much. 501 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: It doesn't sound help me. I don't want to I 502 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: don't want to be there. I don't want to run. 503 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to be there. 504 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: Okay, another anonymous, I agree. When you're on round two? 505 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: Is it okay to keep dating if you aren't sure 506 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 3: there is a future? When do you have the what 507 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 3: are we? 508 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: Conversation? 509 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 4: What are we? 510 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 6: Conversed? 511 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: Im? 512 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: When you want to know? 513 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: I think you have the conversation when you want to know, like, 514 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: let's not play games? 515 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 2: Is the question? 516 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: When I want to know what we are, I'm going 517 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: to ask what are we? Wait? 518 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, if you if you have to ask, 519 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is true. If you have to 520 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: ask what are we? Does that say send a message? 521 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: No? I think that there. I Actually we had a 522 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: converse and we talked about this. We remembered exactly where 523 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: we were when we said what are we doing? And 524 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: what are we and you know, yeah, what are we doing? 525 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: Like we know how we feel, but what are we doing? 526 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: Are we going from? 527 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: And where are we going? And you know, I'm at 528 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: a point in my life where if we're if I'm 529 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: going to be with you, this is what I want 530 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: and if you don't want the same thing, let's establish this. 531 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: Now, what did you do the same thing? 532 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: And that's very mature knowing yourself. 533 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: You do a certain age and that's just that's where you're. 534 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: At because of age. 535 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 6: Mostly, Yeah, you've learned some things. You don't have time. 536 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 6: You just don't have time to wait. 537 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: Okay, what I want to know, did either of you 538 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: have this conversation with did you guys? You did have it? 539 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 6: Did you have tell me what conversation? 540 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: Did you have the conversation with you? 541 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: What are we are? We? 542 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: Did you have that conversation with your husband. 543 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: Or on the same page? 544 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think a lot of times that happens. 545 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 5: You just so, we did not wait very long. We 546 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 5: were it was a very fast and furious that was 547 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 5: a way sham. Yeah, I'm very impulsive. So I think 548 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 5: we you know, we learned about each other after we 549 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 5: had already like jumped in, which might have been really hard. 550 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: I mean, people, how fast was if you don't mind 551 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: my asking how fast? 552 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: Okay, that's so hard for me, she said, he is 553 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: not the one. 554 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: I think we leave this dinner weeks later. 555 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 3: I think we got engaged. 556 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 6: Three months later married. Yeah, nine months. 557 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: Tonight, when we go out for dinner with these great folks, 558 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: we're going to look at every guy and go, oh, 559 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: you want to get married. 560 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: You were engaged to you after three months? Right, yeah? 561 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 6: But the changed it. 562 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I get it like the next d But 563 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: you put that in our head because we're going out 564 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 4: with him tonight. He's just. 565 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: By the way your husband. I just met him. He's 566 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: a very handsome man, think so very handsome. 567 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: I went and hugged them and didn't shake any hand. 568 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: I'm a hugger. I don't think he knew what to do. 569 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: It's like, who is this? 570 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: He was very comfortable, Kathy. You know, his name is Dave. 571 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 6: He's Dave. He's very he's not going. He's kind of Dave. 572 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: You know. 573 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 6: He's very easy going, easy to get along with. 574 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: So all right, he got the book. 575 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: Oh, Jesus got the long one. This stunt. 576 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 6: Okay, this is we're going to go deep for a second. Okay, 577 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 6: I think, Okay. 578 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 5: My big problem is I've been in domestic violence relationships 579 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 5: I told you, and I freak out and isolate myself 580 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 5: when it comes to talking with guys. Now, I'm so 581 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 5: afraid to get hurt or cheated on. I freeze up. 582 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 5: Can someone give me some advice on how to approach 583 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 5: men or some good opening lines. 584 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 4: We can't pretend to be experts. I mean, that's that's 585 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: something going on there that I wouldn't ever get to 586 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 4: work on yourself to understand, but I can from that perspective. 587 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 4: My god, if you've been through that experience, would you 588 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 4: ever open yourself up put yourself out there? So that's difficult, 589 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 4: but the thing is you, that's what you almost have 590 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 4: to do. 591 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 3: You have a good opening line for a woman to 592 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 3: say to a man. Hi, Hi, it's okay, it's about 593 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: smiling about you. 594 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 4: Are I just I hate ever feeding somebody try this 595 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: line or trying to do this thing. It's okay to 596 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 4: be you. And I don't know the age on that 597 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 4: person either, but it's just that's heartbreaking to think you're 598 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: in a position why you just can't be yourself and 599 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 4: can't be natural and always have a guard up. But 600 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: we can certainly understand why. 601 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: And I think you know you TJ. You've I was 602 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: actually kind of interested in something you told me. You said, 603 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why women think that men want you 604 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: to play hard to get or men want you to 605 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: play games, like men actually want to know that you 606 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: like them. Men want to know that you're interested. 607 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: In them, because they say, don't be available. 608 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: Like TJ was like, be a straight shooter and like, 609 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: and that's the kind of person you want to be with. 610 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: Someone who wants to know, who doesn't want to play games, 611 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: who doesn't want to like pretend to need to chase 612 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: you like we're all especially if you've been through some 613 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: sh and it sounds like she certainly has. Shouldn't shouldn't 614 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: she want an adult, mature relationship And that involves starting 615 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: at a place of realness and authenticity. And I think 616 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: when you show someone who you are, if they don't 617 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: want to be with you, good, then you know upfront, 618 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: like if you can just be yourself, I would just say, yeah, 619 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: you have to be Willings. I know it's scary to be, 620 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: but to be yourself is that's the only way you're 621 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: going to get an authentic love in return. 622 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And when you see a red flag, believe it's 623 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: a red flag. 624 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: When someone shows you who they are, yes. 625 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: I believe them. 626 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: Okay, we've been told we got time for one more? 627 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 3: Is it you want to No, it's oh please, my love, gentlemen, 628 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: take it last one here? 629 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: Wow? Okay, it says it's directed at me. 630 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 3: Actually, OHJ the best for last. 631 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 4: Oh you are gonna love this. Is it acceptable to 632 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: set one of your guy friends up with more than 633 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: one of your female friends or is that in bad taste? 634 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: Why don't. 635 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 3: As long as you're honest about say. I don't know 636 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 3: who's action was, but. 637 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 6: I guess you're right. Let's be realistic. I think it's 638 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 6: okay for me. 639 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: I think when you read that, I have this visceral response, 640 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: which is, if if TJ sets and I'm praying he does, 641 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: sets me up with someone he knows, I want at 642 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: least have the opportunity to explore where our relationship could 643 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: go with his friend without feeling like it's a I'm 644 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: a meat part of a meat market, Like hey, I 645 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: got ten girlfriends here, you know which I would want 646 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: the opportunity, and then if if TJ's friends said, Kathy, 647 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: it's been real, So you don't like the idea. I 648 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: don't like that. I don't want to be I don't 649 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: want to be considered one of a pack. I don't 650 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: want to I don't. 651 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: I want just like going on the best it's like 652 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: going on a dating side. 653 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to be shocked. If that makes sense. 654 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 4: I think most guys would not do that out of 655 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 4: respect for their friends. I think the female friends I 656 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 4: have now the guy friends I have, I would never 657 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 4: start and mix. 658 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 3: I would personally on your own without the women know 659 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: and give him an option, show them both, talk about 660 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 3: both people that you'd like them to meet. 661 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: And let him make that sick one at a time. 662 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: Right, I'm not saying fix them up with both. 663 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: Let him that's what. 664 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: Then he makes that. 665 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: So TJ dnswer is Kathy first, Susan second. 666 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 4: Every time I see you, I thought we saw a 667 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: reckon overring about who who we know? 668 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: Then they forget, but we're coming. 669 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: I am no, And I do like what you said, 670 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: because I think that no one wants to think they're 671 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: being It's almost like an agent trying to push their clients, 672 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: like whoever you want. But I got several pig problem 673 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: with you, Like that feels icky like or something. Yeah. No, 674 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that you let one relationship see 675 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: if it works if it doesn't, and then and only 676 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: then when you say, would you mind if and. 677 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: You know what, I would hope that if you know, 678 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: if you if Dave fixed Susan or me up with someone, 679 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: I would hope that that friend would come to David say, 680 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: you know, I really like Susan, but now I really 681 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: like to meet Kathy. Susan wasn't all I thought you 682 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: would be. 683 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: But Kathy is notice how she named that the order 684 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 3: of that way. 685 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: I would if it were a good friend, I would 686 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: hope that person would come to you and say, being 687 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: true to yourself for me and right and you know 688 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: she was great, but I don't think she's for me 689 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: and there's nothing wrong. But I would feel better about 690 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: that then, Susan, how is your date? I don't know 691 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: how is your date? What you talk about? 692 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: Kathy? 693 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: What're you talk about? Really said that to you? He 694 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: told me he doesn't, he doesn't. He told me he 695 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: prefers petite brunettes. Oh yeah, we were, We were on 696 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: that show. 697 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 3: But you know what, I love being with you guys 698 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: doing this today. We got to schedule this more often. 699 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 4: You are to our listener. This is a true story. 700 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 4: The five of us are going out tonight together and 701 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: I mean we're going out hard. 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This is I 715 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 4: Do Part two and iHeartRadio podcast. 716 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 3: We're falling in Love is what if I open my 717 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 3: own dating service, like I could fix people up? 718 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: What do you think Wait, I just want to finish 719 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: what you said. 720 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 4: We're here for love, yes, falling in love is the 721 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 4: main of the name Jay. 722 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 723 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 4: All right, thank you all for listeners. Don't we're not 724 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 4: doing yet. 725 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: Wait, we're We're all right. We'll see what part three. 726 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: We got this