1 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Plan on paying less for the coverage you need with 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans. Get a quote today at FBHP 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: dot com. My Mike Keith with my Titans radio Brethren 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: coach Dave McGinnis, Rett Brian. We're gonna post for a 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: picture here, real quick picture, all right, picture right here 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: during the OTP photo. Thank you. What a strange week. 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: It has been a week unlike any other that we 9 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: have had. I don't think there's any doubt about that. 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: I was going back and looking in terms of how 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: this departure of the head coach went. The distance of 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: it is not totally different than say, Mike Mallarkey. Mike 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: Malarkey was let go on the Tuesday after the New 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: England playoff game. It was two days, but he did 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: have the final press conference on Monday, and you'll remember 16 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: in the final press conference he said essentially he wasn't 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: going to make any he didn't plan to make any 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: changes on offense, and everyone kind of was surprised that 19 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: he didn't come out and say that, and the next 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: day he was let go. I don't know that everybody 21 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: was shocked coach, because in Mike Malarkey's case, he was 22 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: going into the final year of a three year contract 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: and you either realistically had to extend him or let 24 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: him go. 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and there we were there. 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: There were some other things too. After the Kansas City game. 27 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: Well, he had said after that game that he was 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: so you win your first playoff game in fourteen years. Yeah, 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: fourteen years. And he had basically in his press conference 30 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: gone into the fact that he was disappointed that ownership 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: had not dispelled rumors about him being fired potentially, and 32 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: that wasn't that wasn't received well. 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: Well, and he took it to a personal level, Mike, 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: because he talked about the stress that it brought on 35 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: his family. Yeah, because I was sitting in the room 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 4: and I was sitting there going ooh, that's probably not 37 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: gonna go. 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Well, we were listening. I can't remember where if we 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: were already on the bus or where we were when 40 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: we heard it, and I guess we would have heard 41 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: a playback on the bus. But it was very odd. 42 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: It was a very odd tone. And were your thought 43 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: process then was WHOA, I don't know if this is 44 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: the time to Yeah, you just want a playoff game. Yeah, 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: it's kind of like the old Jerry klower line. I 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: don't believe I'd have told that. I don't believe i'd 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: have told that. 48 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: Brotherly. Yeah, and. 49 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: From all my years in the league, it's it's best 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: to keep You've got a lot of thoughts, just keep 51 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: them to yourself until it's the right place to do it. 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: You know, usually usually airing grievances in public, I think 53 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: in any business is not good, right, and especially a 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: very visual and a very visible business. Just you can 55 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: have the thoughts, but keep it to yourself in the 56 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 3: right context. 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: But Mac, how hard is that to couch and to 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: because that's clearly testing a person's patience because things are 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: building and you might have frustrations or you certainly want 60 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: to speak on a topic. 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: How tough is that. 62 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: I've been there and I held it in. You hold 63 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: it in until you and you know, you know I 64 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: did it. You know for the fact that in the 65 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: end it doesn't do you any good. Number one, And secondly, 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: you've got to understand that when you come out like that, 67 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: you may be saying something off the cuff or something 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: to get off your chest that is going to affect 69 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: a lot. 70 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: Of people well, and then they played another game the 71 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: next week and at that point they go through the game, 72 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: lose it in New England thirty five to fourteen. The 73 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: end of the season news conferences the next day, and 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: then the news hits that they had decided not to 75 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: continue on on Jay. I guess it was January fifteenth. 76 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: They decided not to continue on with Mike m Malarkey. 77 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher's was actually twenty five days after the last game. Yeah, 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: that was a lot different, very different. Mike Munchaks was 79 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: actually six days after the final game, and you know 80 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: the word was they asked him for some changes and 81 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: he had closed the season well. They thought a lot 82 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: of Munchack, but just couldn't get it worked out and 83 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: so decided it was best for all that he'd not 84 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: continue this. With Mike Vrabels firing was very different in 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: that Monday became unusual, and it became unusual because there 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: was not a final press conference, which was outside the norm, 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: and then people started to wonder what was going on. 88 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: And then when the news hit about eleven thirty on Tuesday. 89 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: I still think it people a back overall. I think 90 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: the number one reaction before anything else was just surprise. 91 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you never really know what's going on unless 92 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: you're in the room, right, And I've been in the room, 93 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: and so I can speak from you know, to it 94 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: to Rich's previous question, I can speak from experience, and 95 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of conjecture normally around all 96 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: of these things. I mean, it is and it's and 97 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: you know, and the term black Monday has become a 98 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 3: big deal. 99 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: And then as far it's. 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: Just nashally for conversations and stuff. But unless you're in 101 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: the room, Mike and Rett, you really don't know what's 102 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: going on. You don't know. You can you can surmise, 103 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: you can have a lot of conjecture, And that's why 104 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: it's always best if you're one of the you know, 105 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: if you're one of the principles, which I was at 106 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: one time, is just keep your powder dry and in 107 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: the room because the rest of it you can't dispel 108 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: rumors and you can't dispel conjecture, and you can't dispel 109 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: people's opinions on the outside. Right, So everything you don't 110 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: know unless you're in the room. 111 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: One follow up to what Monday was, the tell to 112 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 4: me was that there was no press conference and I 113 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 4: think that's what immediately got people's radar up. So we 114 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 4: had locker room clean out day and a lot of 115 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 4: the media members were there. I was there gathering some 116 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: audio myself, and we had some players tell us there 117 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: was no final team meeting. Tell me why that wasn't 118 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 4: a tell or as big a deal as no press conference. 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: Well, a lot of times you don't have a final 120 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: team meeting just because of the fact that you have meetings, 121 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: individual meetings, and you'll meet with the players individually. You 122 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: know as that goes on, because in a big team meeting, 123 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: there are some guys on the team that aren't going 124 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: to be there. You know they're not going to be there, 125 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: and so the individual meetings is what is really more 126 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 3: critical than just an entire team meeting. 127 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: Well, and that's what Ryan Tannehill said too. He said 128 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabo had done team gathering some years and other 129 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: years he had not. And in my time here, and 130 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: I was asked about it on the radio, I guess, yeah, 131 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: it was Monday. I don't remember that being standard operating procedure. 132 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: I know it's happened some but I didn't feel like 133 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: that it happened every year and then what Ryan Tannehill 134 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: said back that up that Vrabel had done that some 135 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: years and some years he had not, So I'm with 136 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: rehtt though the press conference has almost always been held 137 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: on Monday, it doesn't have to be correct. You have 138 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: to hold one by the end of the week via 139 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: league rules, but here it's always been done the day 140 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: after the game as far as I can remember. I 141 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: don't know if there was a trip we took at 142 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: some point, or there was a weather thing that had 143 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: come up or anything. There may have been exceptions, but maybe, 144 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: but there was a reason for it. Right. 145 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: It was the first time I can remember there wasn't 146 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: a season wrap up presser from the head coach, and 147 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: I think the reaction among most people at that point 148 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: is they're trying to work a trade, you know. That's 149 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: what people kind of went to at that point, because 150 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: the majority of the speculation was that he was definitely 151 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: going to be back outside the building, and then it 152 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 4: was you get to Monday, and then there's the talk 153 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: of the trade possibility. 154 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: But as you dig into that, it was going to 155 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: be that was going to be a very convoluted thing 156 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: to try to do. 157 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: That's exactly the word I was going to use because 158 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: it is right. 159 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 3: It is now people will point to, well, Sean Payton 160 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: was traded, he wasn't an active coach at the time. 161 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: Right, he wasn't an active coach. 162 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: He was still under contract, but he was not an 163 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: active coach at the time. But it is very convoluted 164 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: and it takes time, and plus the principal and the 165 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 3: parties involved has to agree to it. 166 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: Well. And the other thing about the Denver thing, they 167 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: had already been through their entire process correct, so they 168 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: had checked every box. They had talked to everybody they 169 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: wanted to, so they were done. The time constraint issue 170 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: because if you're sitting here, I mean just hypothetically, you 171 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: make a deal with someone, then you know they still 172 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: have criteria they have to meet, sure, which is probably 173 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: not going to be totally honest. If you're interviewing people 174 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: just to interview them because you have to meet requirements. 175 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thinks that's really cool. The team, 176 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, the teams on either side wouldn't think that 177 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: was very cool. I wouldn't think the league would think 178 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: that was very cool. And it's just not right. The 179 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: second part is what if the other team pulls out 180 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: what if in the course of those interviews they meet 181 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: they meet somebody they like better and they say, you know, 182 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: we're just not going to do this because they're not 183 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: bound to anything. And you, as the trading team have 184 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: to sit and wait because you can't start interviewing coaches 185 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: while you still have a coach. 186 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: And see all of that. 187 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: You're laying it out very well, and people don't think 188 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: about that, right. And here's the other thing, Mike, that 189 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: when you start talking about trading a coach, the first 190 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: thing that comes to people's mind is, well, we're going 191 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: to get first round draft picks. Right, Wait a minute, 192 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: you probably aren't. You probably are not going to do that, 193 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: and so then you've got to negotiate the picks that 194 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: you're going to get. There's a lot that goes into it, 195 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: and so convoluted is a perfect word for it. But 196 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: it's more intricate and detailed than people know unless you've 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: been on the inside of it and know what all 198 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: of that works. And everything in the National Football League 199 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: is done on a timeline. Oh yeah, there are there 200 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 3: are deadlines for everything that's done in the National Football League. 201 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: And regardless of your circumstances, you still have to meet 202 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: those deadlines regardless of what goes on. 203 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 4: I was thinking, and I totally agree Mike, with the 204 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 4: way the Rooney rule is set up and those things. 205 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, there's so many layers to this, it would 206 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 4: it would be pains aching to try to do all 207 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: of that. And yeah, you're right, if somebody just says, no, 208 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: we're not going to do that. We found our candidate. 209 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: We like that. It's easier said than done. I guess 210 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: in this case the thing, and I'm even thinking about 211 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: all the layers to it, I would assume, much like 212 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: when a team trades with another team for a player 213 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: and picks or whatever, you know, all that paperwork has 214 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: to match that they send into the league office. I 215 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: would say even that has to be the same thing 216 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: to go for the trade hundred percent. 217 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: But I go back what coach said is the most 218 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: important overlooked fact in all of this is the coach 219 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: has to agree correct different from the player party. And 220 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: the reality is, if you were Mike Vrabel, why would 221 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: you agree? Why would you not want to make them 222 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: fire you so you could make your own deal, even 223 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: if it's with the team where you want to go. 224 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: You want to make your own deal. You don't want 225 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: to be tied into anything at this point. If your 226 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: current team no longer wants you, then, from from the 227 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: coaching standpoint, I'm not sure why a coach, Yeah, just 228 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: a coach would agree. 229 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: Thank you. 230 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 3: Just insert any name in that any name, insert any 231 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: name in that box. I mean, I was a coach 232 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: for a long time. Insert my name in that box. 233 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: You don't do that, and Mac, let's take it your 234 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: representation wouldn't let you do no either. 235 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: Let's take it a step further to go back to 236 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 4: your point about you're not automatically getting first round draft picks. No, 237 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 4: let's say hypothetically you are. Why would you go to 238 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: a place where you're going to be handicapped and not 239 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 4: have a first round pick, if it's in this year's draft. 240 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: Why would you go to that situation knowing that you'd 241 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 4: be behind the eight ball and trying to do player. 242 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: Acquisition you'd have to you're assuming now that you're going 243 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: to the place that you're traded to. 244 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: You know that is, But I'm just saying, even in 245 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: that hypothetical, I wouldn't even I'm like, why would I 246 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 4: go there? 247 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: Well, but you look at it too. I mean, John 248 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: Gruden wanted to go to Tampa. He told Al Davis 249 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: he wanted to go to Tampa. When Al Davis called 250 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: him and said Tampa wants you, he said, that's what 251 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: I want to do. Please do this trade. Bill Belichick 252 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: was not going to coach the Jets. He resigned after 253 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: thirty minutes or whatever. 254 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: I resign as the eighth C of the nyj on a. 255 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: Piece of pape, on a piece of paper. Right, He 256 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: wasn't ever going to go there. He was going to 257 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: New England because he had been there before and the 258 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: Crafts wanted him. These were deals that were already in place, 259 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: in place during a totally different time when the league 260 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: did not have all of their rules in place. And 261 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: it's not just the Rooney rule, which is part of it. 262 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: But remember this year, you cannot interview current NFL coaches 263 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: until after the divisional round in person, in person, right, 264 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: virtual you can do in a window. And they're and 265 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: what they're trying not to interrupt them, sorry, but what 266 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: they're trying to do is they're trying to give coaches 267 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: who go deep in the playoffs a chance to still 268 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: be in the hiring cycle because everybody was making their 269 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: hires before they could talk to every possible coach. So 270 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they can't limit it out all the way 271 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Maybe they do that at some point, 272 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: but right now it's just zoom interviews. The Titans are 273 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: about to start zoom interview so some teams have started 274 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: our starting zoom interviewers and then but you can't bring 275 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: them in if they're a current NFL coach until after 276 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: January the twenty second, And that's a big. 277 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 4: That's a midday. After the division all round, you can 278 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: start bringing them in. 279 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: And that's a big point. It's a huge point. And 280 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: it's a huge point too that you need to be able. 281 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: To start those virtual interviews right because that takes the 282 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: place of an initial interview. When I was coming up 283 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: in the league and then became a hot young coordinator 284 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: in this they would send the league would send a 285 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: television crew to wherever you were and have someone come 286 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: from the league and they would conduct an interview on 287 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: camera with you, tape it, you know, let you look 288 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: through it and look at it, approve it, and then 289 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: they would send it to the league. And then it 290 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: was it was dispersed to all the owners, and they, 291 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: you know, they could look at that, but you never 292 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: really got to talk to anybody until you were invited 293 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: to come in for an interview. All the rules have 294 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: changed so much, Mike as to what you're saying right there. 295 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: But if you're if you're trying to hire a new 296 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: coach and you want to get in on these initial 297 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: zoom interviews, you got to start immediately, and you got 298 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: to start quick, especially if some of the candidates are 299 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: still in the playoffs, are still in the tournament. 300 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I understand what the speculation was about the trading. 301 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: I get that totally. I don't think anybody was wrong. 302 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: I just don't know that everybody fully realized what would 303 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: go into it. 304 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: They didn't. 305 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't, honestly. You know. I had to 306 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: read some things and go over some things, and then 307 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: the first thing I thought is this is going to 308 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: be really hard to do. But I didn't know that 309 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: until I would delve into. 310 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: And it's funny you say that because I had the 311 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 4: same thing as you have people at your office or 312 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: people you family. 313 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: How does that work? 314 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 4: D Like, I'm still kind of digging through that, and 315 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 4: you look at I think there's been eight trades for 316 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: coaches since the AFL NFL merger in seventy six of 317 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: those in the last twenty four years. And I'm thinking, 318 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 4: as as structured as it is now, it's going to 319 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 4: be even less of a thing. Like and somebody the 320 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: other day, I was like, it's happened, it's just not frequent, 321 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: and I said, I don't know that it'll be as 322 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: frequent it's been in the last twenty four years. 323 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: Well to Mike's point, though it happened before these rules 324 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: really rise. 325 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's and all of this has sort of 326 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: continued and you're gonna get you know, people have asked 327 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: when will the Titans have their coach. You would think 328 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: they'd like to have their coach by, you know, sometime 329 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: January twenty fifth, twenty six, maybe Monday the twenty ninth 330 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: or Tuesday the thirtieth, but they might not. 331 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: They might not. 332 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: They might not. I mean it may go. If you've 333 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: got somebody you really want, then you would be willing to, 334 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, kind of wait around during that process. But 335 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: you will have some opportunities to make that contact and 336 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: start to have some things in place because you've gone 337 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: through all this. 338 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: Up and by that date line that you just brought up, 339 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: if you don't have your coach, you're getting pretty close 340 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 3: to having your coach and knowing who it is. 341 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: And I mean I've experienced it. 342 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: I mean I've been to just about every Senior Both 343 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: that's been since I've been in this league. There have 344 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 3: been teams down there without a head coach. Now they 345 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: were close to getting a head coach, or maybe the 346 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 3: head coach was hired while they were down there, but 347 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 3: it's not. That's not the deadline you're looking at. But 348 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: as you say, you bring up a very very real point, 349 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: back to my point about deadlines in the National Football 350 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: League that you got to meet, there comes a point 351 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: in time when you need to have one in place 352 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: just so everything else can slot in. 353 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, you'd like to have a coach 354 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: by the Senior Bowl, but you don't. 355 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: You don't have to. 356 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: No, you don't have to do not And I mean. 357 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: Because all the scouting work and all the all the 358 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: legwork that goes into what the Senior Bowl is. What 359 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 3: we're getting ready to do is go down there and 360 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: look at the that's been done ten months in advance, 361 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: right by your scouting apartment. 362 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: Hey Titans fans, it's always game on with Duncan, So 363 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: grab a coffee and kick off the action. Whether that's 364 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: drinking a cup of coffee on your way to the 365 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: game or grabbing one to go before watching the game 366 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: at home, Duncan is always there to help you get 367 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: your game on. Just like the pros, we need to 368 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: be at our best come game time, which is why 369 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: Duncan is the most important part of your game day 370 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: ritual because it's always the best call for football America 371 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: runs on Duncan. 372 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: There it is when do I get one of those? 373 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: You want one of these? Yes, you can have this one. 374 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: No, you're drinking out of yeah. 375 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: Turn. So what I want to know of all of 376 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: Dave mcga and I want to know of all of 377 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: the candidates who've been mentioned that the Titans have asked 378 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: to interview. How many of them do you have pictures 379 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: with when they were children, sitting on your knee or 380 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: on a jungle gym or gym at a four year 381 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: old birthday party? How many of these guys have you 382 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: known since they were born? With you and Cheese? 383 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: First of all, First of all, I had a jungle 384 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 3: gym growing up, and it was outstanding. 385 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: It was outstanding. 386 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: We had the best jungle gym in the neighborhood, and 387 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: everybody came over there and kids broke their arms on. 388 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: Them all the time. 389 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: They were the best. 390 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: They were so good and so unsafe. My grandfather bought 391 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: us the biggest, most elaborate jungle gym, and my grandmother 392 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 3: and mother were so mad at him because you got 393 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: kids climbing up ten twelve feet off the ground, metal. 394 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: King of the mountain, and you try to punch them 395 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: off the top of them. Oh yeah, I shot. 396 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: I shot my brother with a bb gun off the 397 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: top of it and he broke his arm. 398 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he still speaks to you. 399 00:19:59,000 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, just fairly. 400 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: But but you bringing up jungle gym triggered me pretty much. 401 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: Okay, you know that's stings too. I've been shot by 402 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: BB gun. I have to That's that's not fun. 403 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: So anyway, I know, I know, I know a couple 404 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 3: of them like that, just like you know, before the 405 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: Jacksonville game, Press Taylor came. 406 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: The booth to see nice to me, Press Taylor. 407 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: Press good comes of a great family. Yeah, that was 408 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: a great family. 409 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: He waited for you he's getting ready to coach a 410 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: game and he's waiting for Coach Max's segment to be 411 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: over because I can wait. 412 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: So, I mean, but I've I've been in this realm 413 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: so long, and there are there are coaches sons now 414 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 3: that are coming up through the ranks that are pretty 415 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: good football coaches. 416 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens. 417 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: So how many of them? So Brian Callahansman mentioned, well. 418 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: I knew, I knew his dad, Bill, you know, very 419 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: very well. 420 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm still coaching but the Jets, right. 421 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: He's a he's a he's a offensive line coach. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's. 422 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: One of the great offensive line coach, really good one, 423 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: really really good one. 424 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: Of course, the one I know the best is Slowly. 425 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: Ryan Slowly because I worked with I worked with Bob 426 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: his dad for three years. He was when Dave Wants 427 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 3: that took over for Mike Ditka, and I stayed with 428 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 3: them after Mike. 429 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: Ditko was let go. Uh. 430 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: Slow was with Jimmy Johnson on that staff that won 431 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: those Super Bowls in Dallas, and then Slow came in. 432 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 3: It was a defensive coordinator. So I've been around the 433 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 3: Slow family a lot, very just a real great family 434 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: football family. His brother Stevie is in the personnel department 435 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 3: in San Francisco. 436 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: If you if somebody hires Brian Callahan, do you think 437 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: his dad comes as the old line coach. Well, I 438 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean that would be interesting package steel. 439 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: Well kind of want that, wouldn't you. He's pretty good, Yeah, 440 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: he's pretty good. 441 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: He's more than pretty good. Yeah, he he he, he 442 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: gets it. 443 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: And he's been a head coach in this league and 444 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: in major college. 445 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: And yes, he gets he gets But you know, I've 446 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: five line play I'll just say this for Bill Callahan. 447 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: He gets it. 448 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets it. So let me move to something different. 449 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: This is something I do, and this is kind of 450 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: one of the crazy things that I do every year 451 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: the day after the season ends. Crazy crazy, indeed, So 452 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: I do. I run the key stats for the playoff teams, 453 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: nice to compare what they're doing. And you know, some 454 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: a lot of years we've been in the playoffs, which 455 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: has been great. This year we're not. And I was 456 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: going to share a few of them with you to 457 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: see if you think they make sense. The obvious one 458 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: when you start on offense is points per game. The 459 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: average playoff team twenty four point eight points per game 460 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: makes sense. Titan seventeen point nine. So it's a touchdown, it's. 461 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: A touchdown a game, yep, which in a one score 462 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: game makes. 463 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: It makes a big difference. But that's your standard. You 464 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: would you would kind of expect that. I would think 465 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: if you take Pittsburgh out, that number goes to like 466 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: almost twenty five and a half points a game. Pittsburgh 467 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: is the Pittsburgh is the team offensively in the playoffs, 468 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: that would be the norm. Below the norm, yes, the 469 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: one at the top would be probably Miami, Miami. But anyway, twenty. 470 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: Four, but you know what, and that's a little bit 471 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 3: skewed for this reason. And Miami had a seventy point game. 472 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: They did. 473 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: They had a seventy point game which go ahead. 474 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: They did, but they also had a couple of fourteen 475 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: point yes, sir, I did all right. Rushing yards I 476 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: don't think is a is a big deal at all. 477 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: The average playoff team one hundred and twenty one and 478 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: a half rushing yards per game on twenty eight carries. 479 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: They averaged four point three to one per carry. The 480 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: Titans one hundred and eight point six rushing yards per 481 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: game on twenty six carries, they averaged four to a carry. 482 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: They were behind a lot, so they didn't get to 483 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: run it quite as much. But if you're looking at 484 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: yards per carry, not the same, about the same, so 485 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: the run game doesn't seem to be an issue. The 486 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: pass game, however, playoff teams averaged two hundred and thirty 487 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: seven yards passing per game on thirty three point six 488 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: attempts with twenty two point two completions, so they averaged 489 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: a complete sixty five percent of their passes, and the 490 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: playoff teams averaged nearly twenty eight touchdown passes. 491 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: I was waiting for the touchdowns. 492 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. The Titans averaged one hundred and eighty point 493 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: four yards passing per game seventeen point six completions out 494 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: of twenty nine point one attempts. Titans complete just sixty 495 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: one and a half percent of their passes, so they're 496 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: four percent below what the playoff teams are, which means 497 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: the clock doesn't keep running. Obviously, all of that it's 498 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: a misplay league average is roughly sixty four percent, so 499 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: the Titans were under the norm, and the Titans just 500 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: fourteen touchdown passes. 501 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: Half there, it is half then they're and they're Now 502 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 3: you're starting to dig into something. 503 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: Now here's a couple bore. Uh. Playoff teams averaging thirty 504 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: six sacks allowed, Titans sixty four sacks. Playoff teams convert 505 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: forty three percent of their third downs Titans thirty three 506 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: and a half percent of their third down. Big difference, 507 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: Big difference. Titan's okay on turnovers, twenty turnovers. They're actually 508 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: below the playoff team's average of twenty one point seven 509 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: turnovers for an offense. So they were I mean, if 510 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: you'd have told Mike Rabel before the season his team 511 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: would only turn the ball over twenty times, he'd have taken. 512 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: That in seventeen games. 513 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, to have taken that. Red zone success. Playoff 514 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: teams average fifty nine red zone trips, nearly fifty nine 515 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: percent touchdown score in those red zone trips. Titans forty 516 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: eight red zone trips, forty eight percent touchdowns. And there's 517 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: a difference, and there's the difference defensively. When you look 518 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: at some of these numbers, it's pretty interesting. Playoff teams 519 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: allowed twenty point two points per game. The Titans allowed 520 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: twenty one point six points per game. Negligible. That's that's 521 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: not a big deal. Playoff teams allowed three hundred and 522 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: nineteen point five yards per game total offense. Titans gave 523 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: up three thirty five per game yardage. Does meanything right? Correct? 524 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: Run defense, The Titans were actually better on run defense 525 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: than the average playoff team one hundred five yards rushing 526 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: per game on twenty five carries for a four point 527 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: one five per carry average for a playoff team. Titans 528 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: one oh seven point seven on twenty eight carries three 529 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: eight per carry on rushing. 530 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: I think felt that during the year. 531 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, pass defense, playoff teams to fourteen a game, 532 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: allowed sixty three percent completions. They allowed twenty three touchdown 533 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: passes Titans two hundred and twenty seven yards per game allowed. 534 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: Not too bad, but nearly sixty eight percent completion percentage. 535 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. 536 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: That's a's that's a that's a continuation of series right there. 537 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: And twenty touchdowns allowed, so not not terrible. On a touchdowns. 538 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: Playoff teams averaged forty nine sacks per game or per team. 539 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: Titans had forty five playoff teams fourteen interceptions Titans with six. 540 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a big difference, too big difference. 541 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: We Titans were just as good on third down as 542 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: playoff teams. Playoff teams allowed thirty eight point four percent 543 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: of opponent third downs to be converted, Titans thirty eight 544 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: point five percent. The same, Yeah, exactly the same. 545 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: How about red zone defense? 546 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: Red zone defense is interesting the opponent. The playoff teams 547 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: allowed fifty one red zone trips with twenty nine touchdowns, 548 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: meaning the touchdown ratio was fifty five percent. The Titans 549 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: allowed sixty one red zone trips, probably too many, but 550 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: only twenty three touchdowns. The touchdown rate was just thirty 551 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: seven point seven percent. Titans number one in the NFL. 552 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: That's number one in the league. 553 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 3: And that that that right there counterbalanced some of those 554 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 3: other ones. 555 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: That that's why you had your one score game. 556 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: That's right. Average takeaways for playoff defenses twenty four Titans 557 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: with fourteen. 558 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: And there's a there's a huge difference there. 559 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: Average turnover ratio for a playoff team plus two Titans 560 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: minus six and another one I ran. Average penalties per 561 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: team for play off team six penalties per game fifty yards, 562 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: Titans seven for fifty two. 563 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: The same, but there's there's some significant ones in there 564 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: are sif you can see how a game seesaws and 565 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: so when we talk, I mean all of the things 566 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: that we present on Titans Radio before the game of 567 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: here's what might happen, here's what has to happen to 568 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: be able to win. You can see the counterbalance and 569 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: the things that we talk about as far as third 570 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: down success, as far as you know, limiting explosive plays, 571 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: as far as scoring touchdowns once you get in the 572 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: red zone, making them kick field goals on defense when 573 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: you're in the red zone. All of those things come out. 574 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: But the turnovers in the National Football League, and we 575 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: always talk about turnovers and explosives are huge things. 576 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing too, when you run numbers like 577 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: this is that it is staggering how much less the 578 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: run game means than it did even ten years ago, 579 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: maybe even five years ago. It's it's much more about 580 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: the efficiency and the success in the passing game. 581 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: Well, and but the run game has to compliment it 582 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: because at some time, yeah, and at some time you're 583 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: going to have to be able to run it. But 584 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: to say that you're going to lean on it the 585 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: whole time, it just doesn't happen. The National Football League 586 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: just because of the way the rules are set now. 587 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: And some of these numbers, rushing numbers are skewed too 588 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: because of quarterbacks running one hundred percent. 589 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 4: The thing that has shifted to me and all of 590 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 4: that because Mac, you know, you're right with the way 591 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 4: these offenses work. You've got to have three down backs 592 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: to make all that stuff continue to gin. 593 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: But you know, it hadn't been that many years ago, Mike. 594 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 4: If you ran the ball by committee as a team, 595 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: you're almost looked at it as like, what's wrong with 596 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: you? You don't have a bell cow, you don't have a 597 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 4: stud back, what's wrong with you? 598 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: But the whole thing, now, that's the way of the world. Yeah, 599 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: and that's and that's where it really is because when 600 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: you well, I'm gonna talk about that in a second, 601 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: let me mention. Seat geek is now the official ticketing 602 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: partner of the Tennessee Titans. Whether you're buying or selling 603 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: tickets to Titans games or any live event in Nashville, 604 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: seat geek is the place to do it. Seat Geek 605 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: the new official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. So 606 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: Titans fans can fan. Yeah, I mean You're right, because 607 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: I've done some work on that too. As we get 608 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: ready to go into this fascinating off season. 609 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: It is going to be a fascinating one. 610 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: And you talk about the times before this weekend and 611 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: got more fascinating on too. So Ran Carthon and Anthony 612 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: Robinson and Chad Brinker and whomever the new head coach is, 613 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: and probably some guys who continue to work in all 614 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: of those areas. They are in a position where they 615 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: are now going to be able to reset the valuations 616 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: for this franchise in terms of the salary cap. Absolutely, 617 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: and this is the first time that I can recall 618 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: that somebody had had a chance to set the philosophy 619 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: here at least, because it feels like we've always been 620 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: battling the cap forever. Last year certainly battling the cap. 621 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: But you're gonna sit down and you're going to attach 622 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: a value not just to players, but to certain positions 623 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: in terms of how this game is played now. 624 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that that is a is a very relevant 625 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: point because, first of all, I'm excited about this off season. 626 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: This off season is going to be exciting because you 627 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: have a chance to do that and you have the 628 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: assets to do it with. 629 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: But you know, I talked to a lot of people 630 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: and they say, well, the times are going to have 631 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: a whole lot of money to spend. I said, there's 632 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: a big difference in having a pot of money and 633 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 3: then allocating those assets so that it's beneficial not only 634 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 3: at the present but in the future. 635 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's the You can't take that money. 636 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: And just be a drunken sailor on leave and just 637 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: be throwing it out you you cannot do that. And 638 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: as you said, this is a time right now where 639 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 3: you've got a chance to reset a lot of things. 640 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: Well, you've got a chance to set yourself up going 641 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: forward for the next four or five six years. 642 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 3: Which is the window that you're looking at anyway in 643 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: the National Football League. 644 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: And it's no. 645 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: Secret to any of us, are the three of us 646 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 3: sitting here, the people behind the camera, the people listening 647 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 3: to us. One of the major things is you've got 648 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: a young quarterback. 649 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: That's it. 650 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: You've got a young quarterback, and that is the axis 651 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: that everything revolves around when you talk about resetting your money. 652 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: Well, and his cap hit in the next two years, 653 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: Will Levis's is under five million dollars, which is and 654 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: then Taja Spears as your lead back. His cap hit 655 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: in the next two years is less than three million dollars. 656 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: Which when you're visualizing that pie chart that people use, 657 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 4: like look at the Broncos and what the piece of 658 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 4: pie is for Russell Wilson in the quarterback to go 659 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 4: back to her, how much positionally you allocate and you 660 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 4: look at that, I mean, it's vastly well, but let's say, 661 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 4: all right, let's say Will Levis becomes really the dude 662 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 4: that he becomes that guy in twenty twenty six, Will 663 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 4: Levis is getting. 664 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: Paid, Sure he is and made I mean you want 665 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: him to he I mean, that's gonna be if he 666 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: becomes that guy. For what quarterbacks cost, he's gonna be 667 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. I mean, that's what those guys cost now. 668 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: And just to think what it will be in two 669 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: more years. 670 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: And again with the caveat that the salary cap is 671 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: going to escalate. 672 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: It's going to escalate every year. 673 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: And the thing that's important to we went through a 674 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 3: very very strange time with the salary cap during COVID, right, 675 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: that was that that was a retraction and a lot 676 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 3: of these contracts were made not knowing that the whole 677 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 3: world was going to catch COVID, and so now we're 678 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: catching up, and we are, we're speeding up to that. 679 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 3: So your point is very well made. But you're going 680 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 3: to have the assets too to do that. 681 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: But you still, because of this reset moment, have the 682 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: ability to know that if he takes off, you're going 683 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: to be able to pay him and not have to 684 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: take the team apart. 685 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: One hundred percent true. 686 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: That's the whole thing they're doing right now with the valuations. 687 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Tannehill and Henry last year against the cap 688 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: combined cost roughly fifty three million dollars. And you know 689 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: ex I mean Tannehill played well here, didn't have a 690 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: great twenty twenty three, but he had played well up 691 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: until then. You signed him to the four year contract. 692 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: He earned all of it. Henry got the four year contract, 693 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: herened all of it, all of it. But what are 694 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: you going to prioritize in terms of where you're putting 695 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: your money and your assets, knowing that you have to 696 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: do that not just for twenty twenty four, but for 697 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven. So at some point, 698 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a chance if you do this right, 699 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: because the CAP's going to be going up, and because 700 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: you're doing this reset that you don't have to take 701 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: the team apart. 702 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 3: Here's the thing now you can Now you can set 703 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 3: your asset allocations without being forced to do something right. 704 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: That's the big plus well, and I mean I think 705 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: that that's probably where the decision is going to come 706 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: in on Derek Henry's future. It's it's not can he 707 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: play no, It's not do you want to pay him 708 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: as a star, it's do you do you invest in 709 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: the position understanding that you can take money elsewhere if 710 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: you don't invest in the running back position. Here, here's 711 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: a question I have for you Mac. As they're assessing 712 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: this situation, knowing that we don't know what the cap 713 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: number is. I've seen reports of it going from two 714 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: twenty four point eight to two forty. It's supposed to 715 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 1: be too forty. 716 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, Are they making evaluations based on what it is currently? 717 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 4: And then if they get extra that's just icing on 718 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 4: the deal. As when that cap number is released, are 719 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 4: they are they working on an estimation? 720 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: They're working on a middle estimation. 721 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: Okay, they don't go they don't go with the because 722 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 3: you know it's going to increase. 723 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: Right, But so you go middle of the road and. 724 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: The middle road and then if you then I can 725 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 2: that makes sense. You have it. 726 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 3: You have it, but you don't go it on what 727 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 3: the baseline is now because you know it's going to increase, 728 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 3: you just don't know how much. 729 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: But the Titans are not going to spend up to that. No, 730 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: we don't do that. That's not what you do. I mean, 731 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: because that's the thing that's the misnomber in this is 732 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you've got two hundred and forty point 733 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: eight million that you can spend. You've got to spend 734 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: two forty point six No, no, no, no again, That's 735 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: what this moment is. That's exactly is this is the 736 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 1: moment where this group who uses analytics, who uses different 737 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: evaluations for position groups, different lengths of contracts, to understand 738 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: what this is going to be, understanding what your future has. 739 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: The biggest thing that potentially has happened for the Tennessee 740 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: Titans is they may have hit it with Will Levis. 741 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: That's huge And if you've hit it with a second 742 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: round quarterback for two years, it's absolutely fantastic. Now you 743 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 1: don't get a fifth year option with him though, because 744 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: he wasn't a first round pick. Correct, So you're gonna 745 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there's got to be a contract in year four. 746 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: You know, you understand that. But you can plan for 747 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: you plan for it. And here's the other thing. 748 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 3: You want him to be that dude because if he's 749 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 3: that dude, then everything else that you've allocated around him. 750 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 2: If you do it correctly, you'll be able to get 751 00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: where you want to get. 752 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: But it will also affect what your draft strategy is. 753 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 2: Two hundred percent. That does it all. 754 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 3: It all goes together, and you know, and and again 755 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 3: when you're in it and done it, I've cleared a 756 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 3: cat before I've done I've done all of this. 757 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: You've got to be able to project. Now. 758 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,959 Speaker 3: You're gonna make some mistakes because you're dealing with human beings, sure, 759 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 3: both in your instance and then the people that you're evaluating. 760 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: But you've got to be able to You've got to 761 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 2: you've got to be. 762 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 3: Able to layer this thing so that you're never up 763 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 3: against all of a sudden. 764 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 2: You talk about the two hundred and forty million, it's like. 765 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 3: Buying a house, you know, for five million, dollars and 766 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 3: you spend all five million and you've got nothing to 767 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 3: pay the bills with. 768 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 2: You can't do that. 769 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 3: You've got to You've got a piece meal the thing together, 770 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 3: but do it, do it intelligently so that you're not 771 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: ever putting yourself back up against the wall again. 772 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've just cleared your credit card balance down to zero, 773 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 4: and you're not gonna max it out again. You're gonna 774 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 4: figure this thing out. 775 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: I don't ever remember the Titans doing this, do you 776 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: rat No, I can't remember an instant. I can't remember 777 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: an instance where they have had this moment. 778 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 3: The closest that had been since been with the Titans. Now, 779 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 3: I've been with another club when I was a head 780 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 3: coach where we. 781 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: Had to clear the books. 782 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 3: Fire bomb the whole thing because it was just out 783 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 3: of control. I started looking at that cap and I 784 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: about passed out. But here, the only time we were 785 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 3: ever close to that is when we had when we 786 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 3: lost Javon, we lost Samorri, we lost you know, all 787 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 3: of those guys, you know, lost Eddie, lost Mike god 788 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,919 Speaker 3: rest Is, so all. 789 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 2: Of those guys. 790 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 3: We lost those guys, and all of a sudden you're 791 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 3: sitting there going. And so you know, the two years 792 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 3: after that were really piecemeal together, but you were able 793 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: to bring in the David Thorntons, you got Chris Rope, 794 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 3: you got Kevin Mawy, and then you drafted, you hit 795 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 3: on some draft choices, and all of a sudden, then 796 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 3: you're back. You're back to ten and six, and then 797 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: you're back to thirteen and three. 798 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 2: You're number one. 799 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 3: So it can be done, but you have to be 800 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 3: judicious with your money and your picks. 801 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: And your strategy. You've got to make a decision on 802 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: what your strategy is going to be. And again I 803 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: use the word valuation. There you go, because that's the 804 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: part of it. You know, it was as if people 805 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: when when the Titans let John neu Smith go, people like, 806 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: how can you let John new Smith go? I said, 807 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: you're paying a running back. It's a choice. 808 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 2: It's a choice. 809 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: You go to Kroger and you you've got so much money. 810 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: You can buy one thing, but you can't buy another. 811 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: That's the way the cap is. If you if you 812 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: paid Derrick Henry, which made total sense for where they 813 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: were at that moment, sure, then you make a decision 814 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: that you can't do other things now, is that the 815 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: same decision you make? Now we'll see, I mean, we'll 816 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: we'll see how these guys see the cap. But it's 817 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: going to be fascinating in that way. And I think 818 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be something that actors send to to 819 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: who the new coach is if he kind of buys 820 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 1: into what theyre And I mean, I don't know what 821 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: they're thinking is on this. No, I haven't. I mean 822 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him yet about it. 823 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 3: And I won't ask. I might ask, yeah, well you can't. 824 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 3: You can't because you're Mike Keith. 825 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 2: I won't ask. 826 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. 827 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: The thing that the thing that I do know is though, 828 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 3: is you've got a chance to reset it right, and 829 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 3: see that's different. That is different than having to than 830 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 3: having to in banking, having to go borrow again to 831 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 3: pay the loan that you just had. 832 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 2: It's different. 833 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 3: Now you can completely, as Rhett said, you can go 834 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 3: to ground zero and reset it with a strategy. 835 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 1: You want to add, what would you like to add, Rett, 836 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't have anything else to add. You're good, Well, 837 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: then we just said we're just gonna end this red. 838 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 3: I wish you'd add something again, because I like sitting 839 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 3: here talking to you guys. 840 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:52,919 Speaker 1: That's fun. 841 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 4: Well, I just I'm glad we've had this, this this 842 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 4: OTP because there's some questions that I think that I 843 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 4: wanted to know when I thought the OTP. People wanted 844 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 4: to know about the process of a lot of the 845 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 4: structural things we're discussing, because man, I you know this stuff. 846 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 4: I'm not a very smart person at all. It's way 847 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 4: over my head. I had a guy ask me, he goes, 848 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 4: so they got, you know, two hundred and something million 849 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 4: under the cap, whatever we can get like three players. 850 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 4: It's like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 851 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 4: I know it doesn't work like that. Whatever those numbers 852 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 4: you see reported of four year deal for a player 853 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I don't know how to convey to 854 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 4: this to you, because again I'm not a very smart person. 855 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: But I was like, that's not how that works. 856 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: First of all, you're a smart person. 857 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I was efficient for a compliment. Someone 858 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: finally disagreed with you. That's good. No, you are. 859 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 3: You are a smart person. But the salary cap you 860 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 3: could you I've done it. You'd start digging into the 861 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 3: salary cap and manipulation of. 862 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 2: A salary cap. It'll cross your eyes. 863 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: But the thing is they don't have to play any 864 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: games with that right now. That was my don't They 865 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: don't need a bunch of trick things are voidable. That's 866 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing of the giant math problem. That's the 867 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: whole thing. And they can start and Amy Adam Stronk 868 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: has empowered this group to do it, to do it, yes, 869 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: And that's what I think is the big takeaway from 870 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: where we are right now, as we as we start 871 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: the process. Just like she chose to empower someone else 872 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 1: to make the decisions last off season about several veterans, 873 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: that's why she changed general managers in December, is because 874 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: she wanted someone else to come in and look at 875 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: it with a new set of eyes and to make 876 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: the decisions that they made. And they, you know, they 877 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: let some guys go who were well thought of players, 878 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: guys who'd done a good job. Had to eat some 879 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: dead money in order to do it. Wasn't easy, which 880 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: is why they weren't going to have a lot of 881 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: extra money to spend last year. And now you're you're 882 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 1: starting the building back process knowing that you have Jeffrey Simmons, 883 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: and you have Harold Landry and you have some guys 884 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: like that, and then you have this group of rookies 885 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: who played a lot of football who seem to be 886 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: people that can help you with the foundational parts of 887 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: your roster. And now you've got to you know, you've 888 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: got to go after offensive line, You've got to go 889 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: after wide receiver. You've probably got to go after secondary. 890 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 1: All those things you would think, or those three areas 891 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 1: you would think factor in right away. 892 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: But you can, but you can't. But you can't. 893 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 3: And the thing about that is that you're saying is 894 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 3: that's so true. You don't have to You don't have 895 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 3: to start making choices either this. 896 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 2: Or that, either this or that. 897 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: Right. If you do it right, you can spread it 898 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,280 Speaker 1: out and you could have both. 899 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 2: You could have both. 900 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 4: And depending on what happens. As you're saying that, I'm 901 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 4: thinking about who could be here, who cannot be here. 902 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 4: The median age of this team is going to be 903 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 4: quite young. 904 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know who has the highest media age in 905 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs, Miami. Yeah. 906 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 4: A lot of those defensive guys, Yeah, they have some 907 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,280 Speaker 4: age on them. So Monday is the deadline for underclassma 908 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 4: to enter the twenty twenty four draft, so we'll know 909 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 4: who the underclassman will be. Senior Bowl Week starts on 910 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 4: January the twenty ninth, and Shrine Game Week starts a 911 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 4: couple days before that, February twentieth. Tuesday, February twentieth, clubs 912 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:39,240 Speaker 4: can designate franchise or transition players. The combine begins Monday, 913 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 4: February twenty sixth. The franchise transition player designation window closes 914 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 4: on Tuesday, March fifth. That's also when college pro Days 915 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,240 Speaker 4: can start. That's also when players can take thirty visits 916 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 4: to NFL facilities and can interview with teams via video 917 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 4: or telephone. The quote unquote legal tampering period for free agents, 918 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 4: which I love begin I'd love that term, begins on Monday, 919 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 4: March the eleventh, and then the twenty twenty four league 920 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 4: year and the top fifty one rule goes into effect Wednesday, 921 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 4: March thirteenth at three o'clock. 922 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 2: What did I say when we started this whole OTP? 923 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 2: The National Football League runs on deadlines? 924 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then league meetings, the Big League Meetings, which 925 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: is the spring get together in Orlando March twenty four 926 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: through twenty seven, and then Monday, April first, clubs with 927 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: new coaches may begin the offseason program, so that will 928 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: be here. 929 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 3: There is a deadline for everything you do in the 930 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 3: National Football League, and the train stays on that schedule. 931 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 2: So that's why you've got to jump on it and go. 932 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: And then the annual player Selection Meeting in Detroit Thursday 933 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: April twenty fifth through Saturday April twenty seventh. Gavittal gavel 934 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: coverage on Titans. 935 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 3: Or and then and then uh pre O T A 936 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 3: S and then Phase one, Phase two, Phase three, O 937 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 3: T A S and then training camp and I can't 938 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 3: wait for all of it. 939 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting, it's gonna be different, gonna be interesting, 940 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: interesting and different. I'm all in for it for RTT 941 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: Brian and for coach Dave McGinnis. I'm Mike Keith, thanking 942 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: you all for joining us for the O t U 943 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: P