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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Raves Presspass podcast. The Ravens Fields to

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Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders twenty six to twenty three on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: and today we had a chance to hear from head

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Speaker 1: coach John Harwall.

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Speaker 2: Okay, appreciate everybody being here. Obviously, a lot of work,

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Speaker 2: a lot of work's going in, you know, after since

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Speaker 2: after the game until right now, all of us coaches

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Speaker 2: going through every part of the game with a fine

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Speaker 2: tooth comb every single play, every single player, every single situation,

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Speaker 2: every circumstance to make sure we understand where we're at

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Speaker 2: and then now make a plan for where we're going.

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Speaker 2: And we'll continue to do that. Players the same way,

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Speaker 2: taking care of themselves physically and getting back from the

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Speaker 2: riggers of the game and getting in a position to

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Speaker 2: get ready to play the next game and practice and

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Speaker 2: prepare for the next game that we have down in Dallas,

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Speaker 2: which will be a big challenge. So you go to work,

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Speaker 2: you move forward, and you try to continue to improve.

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Speaker 2: I know that I've heard it said the the NFL

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Speaker 2: season is a race to improve to become the best

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Speaker 2: team that you can over the course of the long haul.

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Speaker 2: And it's the race is a marathon, and we've got

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Speaker 2: to continue to try to improve as much as we

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Speaker 2: can every single day. And I think sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 2: your improvement shows up and sometimes it doesn't. And we

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Speaker 2: had a disappointing game yesterday. We're not happy about it.

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Speaker 2: We want to play better. We want to play winning football.

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Speaker 2: We didn't. We didn't do things we needed to do

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Speaker 2: to win. So we've got to keep pounding the rock.

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Speaker 2: And the rock is going to crack, you know, but

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Speaker 2: that's our job to keep pound and not get discouraged,

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Speaker 2: and our reward will be in will be out there

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Speaker 2: in our future if we continue to do that. So

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Speaker 2: what questions you have, John? I knew you were asked

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Speaker 2: this yesterday, but in a day movement for everything, kind

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Speaker 3: Do you untestipate making any kind of moves as far

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Speaker 3: as personnel, starters, anything and won't lose?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: You know, We'll look at every possibility as a week

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Speaker 2: goes on. I think we're always gonna be searching for

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Speaker 2: ways to make our team better. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: areas here or there. It's not just in like starting

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Speaker 2: playing in what groups? How many reps guys play, what

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Speaker 2: plays they play in, same thing on defense, defensive personnel groups.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're gonna look at everything all the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're always gonna do what you can do

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Speaker 2: with the players that you have, the schemes that you

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Speaker 2: have to try to get better. So a lot of

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Speaker 2: times it's changing schemes, you know, a lot of times

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Speaker 2: it's changing drills to try to get better. It's changing

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Speaker 2: workloads for different guys, giving other guys an opportunity all

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Speaker 2: those guys, all those types of things are things that

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Speaker 2: you do not just and I'll tell you do it

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Speaker 2: whether you win or lose. You do it all the time,

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Speaker 2: but you especially do it when you when you don't

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Speaker 2: win a game.

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Speaker 4: Two starters are going on obviously, I mean we're kind

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Speaker 4: of like a rookie after this and all the last

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Speaker 4: year following your position. Bastioned about that month season, what

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Speaker 4: do you see in from those two as far as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about the two guards, those two guys Andrew

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Speaker 2: and Daniel, I think, yeah, we're seeing progress, but big

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Speaker 2: it's getting better. It's progress in areas and as other

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Speaker 2: areas that show up. And I think that's pretty normal

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Speaker 2: in the offensive line, there are going to be growing pains.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. And I think we've got

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Speaker 2: offensive line, I think that's a fair evaluation. Is inconsistent.

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Speaker 2: It's almost randomly inconsistent, you know. So that's something we've

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Speaker 2: That's the goal, is to be a consistent executing team

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Speaker 5: What was the biggest difference Derek Hary in that first

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm comparing halfs. I just haven't

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Speaker 2: thought about it that way. As you know, I think

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Speaker 2: we ran the ball pretty well overall. With Derek. We

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Speaker 2: got some some good runs. I can think about the

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Speaker 2: the weeds with that right now. On certain plays why

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Speaker 2: we didn't gaze many yards other players you get more yards.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure defense starts to get a little bit tired,

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Speaker 2: you know. I'm sure we got to beat on some

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Speaker 2: what you hope for.

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Speaker 6: The offseason.

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Speaker 5: You talked a lot about kind of going back to

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Speaker 5: and continuing to rebuild it around Lamar. Through these first

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Speaker 2: Far, Okay, lot, there's a lot in there, but it's

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Speaker 2: kind of hidden right now. You know, it's in the bushes.

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Speaker 2: You got to You're gonna have to dig in there

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Speaker 2: and look for it right now because the results aren't

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Speaker 2: what we want it to be. But the things that

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: We're working on the details and there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: We're in the right direction and we've got the right plan.

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Speaker 2: We've just got to learn to execute it better and

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Speaker 2: as we go. We'll continue to get better. And that's

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Speaker 2: every single guy doing the best they can. I'll say this,

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Speaker 2: the most consistent player we have consistently executed and consistently

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Speaker 2: playing is Lamar on offense. I mean, Lamar's playing very well.

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Speaker 2: He's making good decisions, he's taking charge of the offense.

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Speaker 2: He's making throws, he's obviously he's moving around when he

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Speaker 3: He said, you said, you want to kind of see

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Speaker 7: But on the passenger Eres call against Brandon Stevens, what

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Speaker 7: did you see when you looked.

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Speaker 2: At it again in a big picture?

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Speaker 3: What have you seen from the secondary overall the first community?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think on the passenger fround the pass interference calls,

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Speaker 2: I think there was two of them. Is that right?

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Speaker 2: You had Marlin and you had Brandon? Right right? I

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Speaker 2: think when you look at those plays from a coaching

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Speaker 2: that's not our job. That's not what we do. You

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Speaker 2: the second one Brandon's won? There are things to coach

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Speaker 2: technique wise, you know. I think Brandon will be the

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Speaker 2: other one down in the end zone the other way perfectly.

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Speaker 2: I think there are things that he would say he

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Speaker 2: position not to have that call happen. So that that's

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Speaker 2: that's something that we can avoid the other one with Marlin.

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Speaker 2: I don't wouldn't have anything any coaching point to tell

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Speaker 2: Marlin he could do better. Didn't see anything there that

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Speaker 2: he played it really, really well in that first one.

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Speaker 6: John, has Flowers spoken you or the coaching of w

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Speaker 6: a frustration following yesterday's Gabe when he posted the fans

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Speaker 6: comments on Twitter said that it's the second we can

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Speaker 6: row that Flowers has had a big first half and

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Speaker 6: they stopped getting him the ball. Has that been a

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Speaker 2: Some Flowers Nothing I'm aware of. I've know day has

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Speaker 2: been great, great conversations with Zay. I'm not aware of

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Speaker 7: I'll go back to the secondary, which been your just

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Speaker 2: Far to this point. You think, I think the secondary

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Speaker 2: overall is on track, but we're not consistent. You know,

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Speaker 2: we're not consistent and we need to do And it's

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Speaker 2: not just a secondary. We're talking about pass defense, you know,

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Speaker 2: so pass defense is at all three levels. Of course,

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Speaker 2: the linebackers are involved in that, and the pass rush

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a one on one thing where they make

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Speaker 2: a good play. I can think of the tight end

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Speaker 2: made the play on the diving catch coming inside for

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Speaker 2: over there. That was number eighty nine. That's a great play.

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Speaker 2: It's well covered. He makes the play the fade the

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Speaker 2: That's well played. That's that's the offense making a really

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Speaker 2: good play. There's other plays where we're not you know,

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Speaker 2: we don't play it as well as we could. We're

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Speaker 2: not in position, we don't see it quite the same way.

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Speaker 2: We react a little late. There's some few completions that

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Speaker 2: the two minute stuff. I thought a couple of times

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Speaker 2: You know, we certain situations, especially in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: you know, because it just extends plays. That makes it impossible.

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Speaker 2: And they got the ball down inside the five yard

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Speaker 2: that's that's on the front level. So everybody takes responsibility

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Speaker 2: for pass defense, so across the board. The bottom line is,

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Speaker 2: at the end of the game, in this this pass game,

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Speaker 2: you know we have a ten point lead. It's on

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Speaker 2: all of us as a team to maintain that lead.

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Speaker 2: We need to we need our punt team needs to

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Speaker 2: be better, that's for darn sure. Our offense needs to

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Speaker 2: be better, and our defense needs to be responsible to

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Speaker 2: get stops. You know, stops have to be made, plays

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Speaker 2: have to be made. If you make plays to get

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Speaker 2: we learn to do that consistently, then we're gonna win.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna win, We're gonna win all those kind of games.

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Speaker 2: I mean, giving up a fourth quarter lead is never okay,

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Speaker 2: it's not acceptable. It should never happen. And you do

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Speaker 2: it because because you don't play consistent football, uh to

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Speaker 2: You know, a scrambled drill he needs to get plastered.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you have so many leads in the

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Speaker 8: You do to prove your efficiency and those challenge when

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: So I'm really excited about that, fired up about those guys.

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Speaker 6: Roger Rosengartner took a step up in his second game.

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Speaker 2: Did Roger took really good, really good improvement from week

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Speaker 5: Maybe you know you've been rotating him in there in

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Speaker 4: Line's are an ideal.

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Speaker 5: But is that the onliest one you would think about

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Speaker 2: The game opposed to it? It just depends on who

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Speaker 2: We threw more screens than we usually do. I think

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Speaker 2: I wanna see showing the run, throw it behind the linebackers.

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Speaker 5: You know, wants more consibilities.

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Speaker 2: So that's something that you know that's going to continue

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Speaker 2: We coach our guys, and our guys compete and uh,

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Speaker 2: is gonna be seen as a passing group. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: be seen very similar to eleven personnel or if you

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Speaker 2: want to call it zebra like the West Coast teams do,

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Speaker 2: you could and like we do, you could call zebra

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Speaker 2: in here too. You know, there's a lot of ways

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Speaker 2: things you can call it. So uh, that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: seen like more like more like eleven twelve is with

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Speaker 2: those guys. And then when you put Pat out there,

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Speaker 2: even even even eleven, Pat might be seen either as

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Speaker 2: a pass protection type of deal or run deal. So

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Speaker 2: you try to balance all that out. But a lot

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Speaker 2: of it's gonna be situationally too. So you can be

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Speaker 2: in third and eight and it doesn't matter what you

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Speaker 2: put on the field, they're gonna you're gonna get nickel

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Speaker 2: or dime. So you can put whatever you want on

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Speaker 2: the field and you're still going to get the passing stuff,

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Speaker 2: you might get single high more than more than too high,

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Speaker 2: maybe because it might think you're going to try to

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Speaker 2: run the ball, but that might be true more th

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Speaker 2: third and three, third and four, third and five. So

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Speaker 2: we understand all that, and you try to keep people honest.

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Speaker 2: You know, you do the best you can, but you're

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Speaker 2: not going to be fifty to fifty. I mean, there

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Speaker 2: are going to be tendencies. You know, that's that's part

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Speaker 2: of the deal. There's a reason that Mark and Isaiah

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Speaker 2: are out there. But you also want to take advantage

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Speaker 2: of the fact that they loosen it up too much

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Speaker 2: and you run the ball, you know, And we try

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Speaker 2: to do that, and we'll continue to try to build

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Speaker 2: on that.

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Speaker 7: We're talking about this yesterday obviously the eleven penalties yesterday.

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Speaker 7: You know, probably a couple of questions once I think

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Speaker 7: seven the week for how much of it when then

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Speaker 7: it's just in the conversation in the meets, have that

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Speaker 7: pan over these for three weeks.

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Speaker 2: I would say it's a massive point of a massive

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Speaker 2: point of emphasis, has been a massive point of emphasis

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Speaker 2: and will always be. You know, it's it's just not okay.

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Speaker 2: There's know you can talk about some calls here, talk

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Speaker 2: about holding call, definitely talk about a call that was

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Speaker 2: called as a face mask. You can talk about one

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Speaker 2: of the past interferences, you know, and those are those

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Speaker 2: are game changing plays, no doubt about it. But you

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Speaker 2: can't talk about you can't talk about false starts, you know,

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Speaker 2: you can't talk about obvious holding, you know, things like that.

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Speaker 2: Can't talk about not lining up correctly. Those are things

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Speaker 2: that we have to take responsibility for. And that's we're

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Speaker 2: not there yet by any stretch of the imagination in

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Speaker 2: terms of playing you know, playing consistent football across the

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Speaker 2: board and not making mistakes that are costing us opportunities

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Speaker 2: to move yards. So I would say that we cost

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Speaker 2: ourselves more plays than our opponents do right now on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. And that's something that just

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Speaker 2: we have to clean up.

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Speaker 6: John I mentioned the team has to be better on that.

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Speaker 6: On the style of twenty four yards, what's a mechanical

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Speaker 6: issue spreading molding and you.

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Speaker 4: Didn't see a tape on that orsition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a technical issue. It's a punting punting

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Speaker 2: is it's kind of like golf, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know golf. Fortunately, the ball doesn't move, but it

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Speaker 2: seems so hard the punter the ball is moving. I

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Speaker 2: still don't think it's as hard as go. Well, who

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Speaker 2: of us in here could punt the ball? Probably none

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Speaker 2: of us, you know, but some of us think we

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Speaker 2: can play golf. So I recognize it's hard, but you know,

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Speaker 2: these are the you know, Jordan's one of the best

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Speaker 2: punters in the world, and that punt's got to be made,

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Speaker 2: he knows, you know, not just that one. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: a good game. You know, it wasn't the kind of

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Speaker 2: game he's capable of. It's not the way punting practice.

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Speaker 2: So you got to take your practice performance and you

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Speaker 2: got to take it to the game. You got you

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Speaker 2: gotta help us, you know. So he's very conscientious. He

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Speaker 2: wants to be the best, and uh, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: you got to take a deep breath and just just

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Speaker 2: go through your technique and do it the right way.

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Speaker 2: And he's capable of that. And we're going to keep

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Speaker 2: We're going to keep supporting him and keep coaching him.

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Speaker 2: And I'm confident he's going to get the job done.

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Speaker 2: But the job wasn't done in the last game. Hur Team.

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Speaker 8: Joh I think ULDs Prissy Natures report with the cushions,

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Speaker 8: you have an update.

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Speaker 2: On where he is hurt all wise, I don't have

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Speaker 2: an update really. I'm hopeful he'll be back this week though.

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Speaker 5: Did you get out the game health the other wise job?

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Speaker 2: I think so, but like you know, you never know,

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Speaker 2: but I feel pretty good about it.

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