1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here. Don't forget to 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: subscribe or you're gonna make Ojo crack ojo. The trade 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: heard around the world last night, the Dallas Cowboys did 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: the unthinkable, trading the four time Pro Bowler, defensive Rookie 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: of the year, two time first Team All Pro Michael 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Parson to the Green Bay Packers in exchange for two 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: first round picks and defensive tackle Kenny Clark. The Packers 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: handing Michael Parsons the largest the largest contract for a 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: non quarterback in NFL history. He got add four years, 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty eight million, one hundred and twenty 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed at signing. Yeah, and one hundred and thirty 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: six total guaranteed one hundred and eighty eight million total. 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Ojo Yeah, hold on, take your time started off? 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: Hey, Well, I can start it off because I listen. 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm not you will probably get a little bit more 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: in depth. Not will, but I would just chat y'all 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: stay with me real quick. This is this is all ego. 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: This is all ego and. 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: Pride on Jerry's on Jerry's hands. 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: When he did the deal and he got in front 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: of the camera, he did something, as always that he 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: shouldn't have done. 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: One of the first things he said is this was 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: a good trade. In two, we need to be able 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: to stop the run. 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: Now you're bringing in Kenny Clark and again, once again 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: put the pressure on Kenny Clark and your defense and 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: the coaching staff to be able to stop the run. 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: Because who you play week one on who they. 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: Going to Philly and what does Philly do extremely well 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: outside of throwing the ball fall. Now you're gonna put 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: your team in a blenda doing the same thing you 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: always doing. 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: It's doing all that tall before it's even time to play. 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: And you ain't been in nan meeting room. You ain't 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: been on Nan field. 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: Oh, letting one of the greatest young superstars of all 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: time go, and you feel your team has gotten better? 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: How does that make? 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: That's that's cliche? I talk o Joe, Oh we got better? Really? 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: So if you felt that way, why were you trying 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: to sign him? If you thought you could get better 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: by trading Michael Parsons, why did you even offer him 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars. Now, all this time, the last 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: four or four years, they were getting run on. I 48 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: never heard Jerry say a word about running on. Now. 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: I don't know about y'all, but the thing is, you 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: want guys to go hunt the quarterback. Because the Kansas 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: City Chiefs stopped to run? What did? What did the 52 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: Eagles do? They got after my home boy? Because that's 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: the guy that's the head of the snake, is your quarterback. Yeah, 54 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: and if Al Davis Corner said he's he's coined the 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: phrase the quarterback must go down, and he must go 56 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: down hard, and it needs to happen early in the game. 57 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: And see Jered, see again if you watch the documentary 58 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: America's Team, the Gambler and the and the I think 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. It was his ego, that's what calls 60 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: him and jaredy go. So now he done. Well, we 61 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: had a handshake deal. What man, You cannot if a 62 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: player has representation, the owner or the Northern general manager 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: can negotiate a deal with the player. You must talk 64 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: to his agent. Jerry knows that. Michael probably thought I'm 65 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: shaking hand on your hey man. Jerry said, well, you 66 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: shook my hand we got a deal. It's been reported 67 00:03:54,160 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: that Michael said, Okay, Jerry, call my agent, then oh, 68 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: we do the deal. I've done plenty of these deals. 69 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Well you shouldn't have the NFL should have punished you. 70 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: The NFL PA. He told on himself, Oh, I've done 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: plenty of these. 72 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: What we have to a You also have to understand 73 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: the leverage that Jerry Jones has. Huh if you got 74 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: an owner like Jerry Jones that says some of the 75 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: things that he says. 76 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: Out loud that the owners are not even supposed to say. 77 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 2: Maybe think, but you never actually regurgitated in front of 78 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: a camera. Understand that the whole world is listening and watching. 79 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: So you know he don't care nothing about that. Then 80 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: we talk about the same owner that you told me 81 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: about suit the NFL. 82 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: He had the. 83 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: Nerve and the goal and the Cahoni's to suit the 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: NFL and say I'm going to get everything. 85 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: And if I'm not mistaken, basically what he did changed it. 86 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: So what is the NFL. 87 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: He ain't gonna do what they gonna do. 88 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: Nothing they gonna do because he doesn't care. 89 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: He's in a position of power right now to be 90 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: able to do what he wants because he just let 91 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: the world no I tried to handle contract negotiations without 92 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: Michael Parsons representation. All he's doing is telling you to 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: his I I mean to to to everybody's face. 94 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: He says, He's done plenty of these. 95 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: Yeah too. 96 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: Middle four was out, Well, why did you do that 97 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: with Dak? Why did you Why did you not circumit? 98 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: Todd France, Hey, Dag gonna play that. You know how, 99 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: you know that, you you know if you don't know. 100 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: That personally, you know that. 101 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: And and Jerry don't see. 102 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: I I And then he doesn't have that friendly, that friendly, 103 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: bandaged relationship with with Jerry Jones, DA is one of 104 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: the few players that actually kept it. 105 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: Strictly business because Michael Michael Michael was like that too. 106 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: Michael and Jerry didn't have Michael Micah did not have 107 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: the same type of relationship that Jerry had with Michael 108 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: Irvin or he had with some of the other players 109 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: that come along. Michael's like, I'm gonna do I'm here 110 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: to do business. I'm gonna do my job to the 111 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: best of my god given ability. But hey, it is 112 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: the business and I want to keep it moving now. Me, 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 1: and I'm just talking about me. Guys. I think once 114 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, Jerry started saying all this stuff. You know, 115 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: we pay him who to say that we're gonna have him. 116 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: Remember he missed all these games. He's still calling the 117 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: man Michael Parsons and not Michaeh. Even even Steven had 118 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: to say Michaeh that you know, basically Micah. So I 119 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: don't know if it was no purpose or not, but 120 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, oh, Joe, I think as Michael as 121 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: Michah started to listen to what this man was saying, 122 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: like this man, don't this man don't respect me. This 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: man don't respect nothing about me. Jerry thinks, I mean, 124 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: you own the team, but you don't own me. And 125 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: that's how that's how Jerry thinking. Jerry thinking, if I 126 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: pay you, I should I should tell you. Coming in 127 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: the old days that had the muse, they say, g 128 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: and har, you take it up at your stop. That's 129 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: how Jerry's mentality is. Don't hey, I'm just I'm not 130 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: saying that he don't feel the same well about the 131 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: other players, but I'm just saying his mentality is, if 132 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: I pay you, you do what I tell you to 133 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: do naw, Bro, it ain't like that. And as and 134 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: it is reported, I don't know. Jane Slater said that 135 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: Michael says, Okay, let's get a deal. Jerry said, Nah, 136 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna play on the fifth of your option or 137 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: you can leave. Will make it happen there, right, because 138 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm not playing. I'm not playing for twenty one or 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: twenty four. I'm not. So whatever you gotta do, do 140 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: what you gotta do. So what about all? So I'm 141 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: just trying to all these years because the Cowboys weakness 142 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: over the last since MC has been there or before 143 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: he got there, was the inability to stop the run. 144 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: I remember Cleveland Browns ran for three hundred yards Arizona, 145 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals ran for three hundred. The Baltimore Ravens ran 146 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: for three hundred. Pick a team that didn't run. Jerry 147 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: ain't mentioning nothing. So if you just got better, because 148 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 1: I remember when Jerry was there and chat y'all correct 149 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: me from wrong all the time that he was telling 150 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: you these teams remind him of those Super Bowl winning teams. 151 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: He just traded a player that was on the team 152 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: that he said had as much talent, if not more 153 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: than no super Bowl winning team. He just traded him 154 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: and said he got better. 155 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: Listen, Kenny, Kenny Clark is good. Kenny Clark and good. 156 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: He ain't no guy slouch. He ain't no slouch. He's thirty. 157 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: But we talk about Michael Parsons, we talk about Michael Parsons, 158 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: we talk about A Jenner. 159 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm going in the draft looking for Michael Parsons, A T. J. Watt, 160 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: A Miles Garrett. I'm trying to get. Those are transfer 161 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: transformational players. Those are the guys that you're trying to get. 162 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: I tell you what, tell me the run stopper. That's 163 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: the that's in the Hall of Fame. They got a 164 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: gold jacket. Even we were just talking about Lennard Williams, 165 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: he's talking about how Aaron Donald changed it. Where they 166 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: won't They want guys to get the d tackled, to 167 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: go get double digit sacks. 168 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: That's different because there's a different ball. 169 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: But they's so much emphasis on the passing game. I 170 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: need a guy that can attack the quarterback. That's what 171 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons does. First of all, Jered, you're not You're 172 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to ch because here's the thing, Oh Joe, 173 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: the way they're constructed this team, the Dallas Cowboys. The 174 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: office is supposed to get the lead. The team is 175 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be ahead. The other team can't run the football. 176 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: They throw Michael Parsons, go hunt the quarterback. What happens 177 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: when Dak turns it over or they don't have this 178 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: big lead. So now, because you struct the constructed a 179 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: team that you're lighting the bridges, you can't hold up 180 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: when they plume and they're coming boom and they're coming boom, 181 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: like Marshawn said. 182 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 3: Over and over and over and over, hit him in 183 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: the face. 184 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: That's what Jerry don't understand. So unless you're gonna unless 185 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna redesign your team, how you know how to 186 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: work out for you different? 187 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: But again I would say that the trade, the trade is, 188 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: it is, it's not. 189 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: It's not even swapping in any way based on skill 190 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: and talent at the positions. 191 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 3: Kenny Clark is very good. Kenny Clark is very good. 192 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: He had a down year, but he said he had 193 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: a foot injury last year. 194 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: But Michael Parsons is a generational talent. I don't care 195 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: what people say they try to hate, I don't I 196 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: don't care what it may be. I mean, if your eyes, 197 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: if you know the game of football, if you watch football, 198 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: you know, even for me as being a receiver, I 199 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: understand what he brings to the table. Regardless of what 200 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: team he goes to. He's a difference maker completely. 201 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: He wrecks having. 202 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can't believe Jerry did that. I can't 203 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 2: believe Jerry said some of the things he said for 204 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: it to even get to this point. If you paid 205 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: him last year ahead of time and and tried to 206 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: copycat with some of the other owners doing around the NFL, 207 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: continued to build team winning teams, then you wouldn't have 208 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: this issue. 209 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: You wouldn't run into this problem. But your ego continues 210 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: to get in your way, and it's been getting you 211 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: way to pass thirty years. 212 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: Every time he talks, o Jo toepops out because he 213 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: got the whole foot in his mouth. So every time 214 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: he talk, I see another toe. I said, M there 215 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: it is. But I will say this, look it look 216 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: when you when you get drafted somewhere, there's something there's 217 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: there's like a sense of loyalty that you know. I want, 218 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: you know what, I want to be a one Jersey guy. 219 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: I want to be one helmet. I want to stay 220 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: here for the rest of my career, and I do 221 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: believe Mikah would have preferred to stay there. 222 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 4: Me. 223 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: Okay, the Packers gave him forty seven million o JO, 224 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: but to stay in Dallas. I took forty four. And 225 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: let me tell you why, because what can I do 226 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: with forty four that I got to have forty seven 227 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: because see if plus Now it's being reported that the 228 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: podcast caused some problems. See the podcast is on the value. 229 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: But when he's a cowboy, ain't nobody would to Aay, 230 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: they want to hear about the cowboys. They want to 231 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: hear about the boys. They want to hear about Jerry, 232 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: they want to hear about act I'm sorry, and this 233 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: is not a shot at no other team. But there's 234 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: a reason. There's a reason why. Yes, it defintely is 235 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: one thout. 236 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: Anything anything attached to that star. 237 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: If you're playing there, you want to take advantage of 238 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: that window when you are there because it comes. 239 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: With so much bro it comes with so much Troy Media, 240 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: uh Romo Media, Dandy Don Mereti Media Media, Michael Irvin Media, 241 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: what other what other franchise can boast that? Now? That 242 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: the guy that called the color guy. Do you know 243 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: the color guys? Troy two of the profarmaty prominent spots 244 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: occupied by Cowboys quarterback. Now I know, loud of y'all 245 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: don't remember when Dandy Don Meredith was on was on 246 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: ABC with Howard Cosell. Yeah, he was a cowboy. Michael Irvin, 247 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: what a cowboy? M Moose Johnson cowboy? Hey swag ou cowboy. Yeah, 248 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: that's not an accident. That's not an accident. And plus, 249 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: if you look, Michael Lerver ain't calling football. Michael Lover 250 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: make millions, Emmy make millions. It ain't none of them 251 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: calling football around the football in two decades. Michael retired 252 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: before me, and Emmy retired a year after me. So 253 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Jimmy, Jimmy just retired. Yeah, so think about that, 254 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: old Joe. That's not an accident. So the money that 255 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: you were gonna be able to make now, look, it's 256 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: all mute. Now, it's a mute moot. It's a moot point. 257 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: Mute means you can't hear moot obsolete Anyway, With that 258 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: being said, it doesn't matter now. But I'm just saying, 259 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: if the opportunity would have had presented itself say okay, 260 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: we got hey, we're not gonna give you forty seven 261 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: because this really reset the market. Forty four would have 262 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: reset the market. That's three million dollars more than what 263 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: my what what TJ. Watt got? So so that's an 264 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: extra twelve million. They went six, they were twenty four. 265 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't have a problem. It hurted 266 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: O Joe because anytime they a team trade you, they say, hey, 267 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: were good without you or the thought of it. 268 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's and I don't like it. I 269 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: don't like this. What I this is what I hate. 270 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: I hate when when players get traded, players that we 271 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: know are really good players that play for our team, 272 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: and you know how good the player is, and when 273 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: they get traded. 274 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: Then start talking about he wasn't. 275 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: That goody oh, he wasn't that good anyway, Like, come on. 276 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: You never said that when he was there. You're only 277 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: saying that now. Again, that's your team. That's their team. 278 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Oh yall, you look, it's team because guess what, somebody 279 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: else is gonna wear that number eleven one day. All 280 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: they see is the star on that helmet. Players come 281 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: and go they're interchangeable. They've had great players with the 282 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys all the way back when they came into existence 283 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty when they drafted Bob Lilly and they 284 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: got Redney White, and they got all these guys. They 285 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: got a lot of a lot of Hall of famers. Yeah, 286 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: and so that's what they see. They see. It doesn't 287 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: the name. Okay, Yeah, we love Emmy, we love Troy, 288 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: We love those guys. But guess what we got new 289 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys now we love them too. 290 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: Well. Here you just let all of the future Hall 291 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: of Famer. 292 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Go and just and I know Michael wanted one of 293 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: those blue coats that you know, the ring of fan 294 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: which you saw Jimmy and you saw, you saw em 295 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: and and all those guys wearing those blue coats. We 296 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: have orange ones. You know, somebody, I think the Dolphins 297 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: got that teal color. If I'm not mistaken, the Patriots 298 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: got the red got red coats. That's not gonna happen 299 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: now because you know, think about how long it took 300 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: him to put Jimmy in Yeah my game, I mean, 301 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: and they probably look, he got enough money and the 302 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: difference was ohoe is that Michael's twenty six. In three years, 303 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: he can come back to the table and get another 304 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: big deal. Jerry wanted to do five years plus the 305 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: plus the the fifty option, which is six. He said, naha, make. 306 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: Sure you won't be able to come back and double dup. 307 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: Yep. But uh, oh Joe. We had this conversation chat 308 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: now it was Green Bay man people. They need to 309 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: stop making up stuff, oh Joe. And now we tried 310 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: to tell y'all when these when these stuff, this stuff 311 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: keeps leaking out, it's coming from somewhere. I know y'all 312 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: don't want to believe that your favorite player or they 313 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: could potentially trade your favorite player or release your favorite player. 314 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: I know you don't want to believe that. But where 315 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: you think this stuff come from. People saw all the 316 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: things someone could have said, Michael Partson took with what 317 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: they went with. Of all the things they could have said, 318 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: of all the teams thirty two teams, fifty three players 319 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: per team, plus somewhere between thirteen and sixteen practice squad guys, 320 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 1: of every storyline, they could have said, this is what 321 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: they went with. 322 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: Hey, where there's smoke this fire, Where there's smoke this fire, 323 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: you know, And the first thing you want to say, well, 324 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: who's your source, don't worry about your source. Whatever. 325 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: You're hearing it somewhere. They know how to get it 326 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: out there. 327 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how they get it out there, but 328 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: they get it out there. 329 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: This is how they get it out there. Hey, man, 330 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. Hey, it ain't you ain't 331 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: hear from me, you know you Hey, put your spin 332 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: on it. Okay, I'm just I'm just telling you it is. 333 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm not in I'm not and I don't 334 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: really try to break no news. I could, I could, 335 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: but that is that is. That is what I when 336 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: I was on CBS, that's not what they paid me for. 337 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: They had Charlie Castley for that. When I was on Fox, 338 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: that's what they had Jay Glazer for. I'm with ESPN. 339 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: That's what they got Adam Chefter for. I ain't breaking nothing. 340 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my relationship because I have to be 341 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: very very careful because people got all over me when 342 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: I said what I was saying about when russ Man, Well, 343 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: how you I don't know he ain't in the locker 344 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: right right right, okay, But I'm just saying so I 345 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: just said at that point in time, I say, you 346 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: know what, Shannah, it ain't even worth it. It ain't 347 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: it ain't even it ain't even worth it to you. 348 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just gonna speak. Well, this is 349 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: what you know for me if I was in the 350 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: locker room X, Y and Z knowing, knowing. But but 351 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: oh Joe, you could tell. The more and more Jerry talked, 352 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: the more, the more, the more they like dug in, 353 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: the more, hey, you know what he called steven A. 354 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: He wanted to get He wanted to get his point 355 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: out there with steven A. Steven at a sitting down 356 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: with Jerry. Jerry's like this first time we got him 357 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: under contract for three more years. Nobody was You and 358 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: I had that discussion. I said, oh, Jo, he got 359 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: the fifty year option and he got two franchise tags, 360 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: so theoretically he could be a jerk about it and says, okay, 361 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: play on the fifth year option, franchise franchise, Okay, go 362 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: ahead and go. But I don't got seven years of 363 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: service at you. 364 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: But listen, and Michael was gonna be a jerk too. 365 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: You notice you notice they say he was cleared for 366 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: his back pans, right, so you know what he did 367 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: or y'all want to play games, So we're gonna play 368 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: the game. I'm gonna go get a second opinion. I'm 369 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: gonna make sure the second pinion I get. 370 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: Make sure. 371 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: Let y'all know that I can't play. He was finn 372 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: play the game. Oh yeah, so Jerry understood. Okay, you 373 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: know what, he ain't playing. He not fro the fold. 374 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: He really finn to play this game. 375 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: So it's been a third pig. Yeah, that second opinion 376 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: sounded too much like the first opinion, So let me 377 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: go get a third opinion. I need a descending I 378 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: need a descending vote, you know, three. You know, look, 379 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 1: the Cowboys said they're a better team. I don't know 380 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: how you trade your best defensive player. I believe he 381 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: uh uh, he's the best. He was their best player 382 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: on either side of the ball. I don't know how 383 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: you trade him and get better. We'll see what they 384 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: do with the draft compensation. You know, you can look 385 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: at uh Houston and say when they traded to Shawn, 386 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: they got better. They got c. J. Stroud, they got 387 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: Nico Collins, they got Anderson. So you know, you know 388 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, O Joe, you can say, oh, they 389 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: got better, they got all they got some all pros 390 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: over there. They got a franchise quarterback. You got a 391 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: hell of a defensive lineman. You got a really young 392 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: great receiver. We did all right, o' yoe, we did 393 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: all right. 394 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah that's now, that's getting better. 395 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: But I want to I want to see what they 396 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: do with the draft picks. But I don't know if 397 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: if you can't attack a team's quarterback, that's how they're built. 398 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: You were built. They got undersized offensive linement, except Masie Smith, 399 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: but that's his job. So you so you put so 400 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: another word, you put all the well we didn't stop 401 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: the run. Well, look at look at my bro you singing. 402 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: So you singing? So now because you guys got ran on, 403 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: you put all that on michaeh. Yeah. 404 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: Well wait a minute, he said the problem is fixed 405 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: now though he said, the problem is well fixed. We 406 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: got better, We got Kenny Carr. Therefore I feel we 407 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: can stop the run now. So now you don't put 408 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: the pressure on them boys. And them boys didn't even 409 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: play yet, and they got to play the Eagles week one. 410 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: So when things don't turn out. 411 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: How you said they are, as far as you guys 412 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: getting better and stop the run, and you got say 413 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: Kwan Barkley running for two hundred and fifty yards on you. 414 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: Now you got another problem. 415 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: With Jayla hurt? With Jayla hurt or the uber eats 416 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: back there talking about what they got. I like the 417 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: Mogo got paying. I like the General Joe's chicken. I 418 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: like the uh hey, hey, y'all got y'all got back rolls, 419 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: the god chilling because Lane Johnson and my latter ain't 420 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: to be played with. 421 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: Ain't that ain't nothing nothing by nothing by about how 422 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: we've gotten better? 423 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: Not realizing who you play? Week one? 424 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: Do you remember the defensive? Do you understand the office 425 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 2: of the line? You' getting ready to play weak one? 426 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: Are you sure? Are you sure? You've gotten back? And 427 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: you got the commanders? So we're gonna find out. You know, 428 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: look a lot of times, don't you You know? Hey, 429 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: we all have it. We all have it. We make 430 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: up our minds or something. I don't care. It might 431 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: be the best thing for us, but sometimes we'll cut 432 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: our nose off, the spote our face. I'm gonna show you. 433 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you. You think I can't, You think 434 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: I can't live without you. You think I can't be 435 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: without you, I'm gonna show you. Sometimes we can't get 436 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: out of our own way. Ojo. Yeah, and then when 437 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: you realize the gravity of the mistake that you've made, 438 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: it's too late. It's too late. We've all been there, chat, 439 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: we've all been there, We've all a you know I can. 440 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: They're plenty fishing to see. But as my grandmother told 441 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: my aunt, you might not catch him. And Jerry Jared 442 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: Jones had plenty to say about the biggest reason for 443 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: not signing Michael Parson because the Cowboys needed to stop 444 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: the run. He also said, we can win more without 445 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: Michaeh than when had we signed it. So if that's 446 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: the case, why were you trying to sign it? Why 447 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: was it such a big deal in this handshake deal? 448 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: Why were you trying to get him to sign this contract? 449 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: See ojo. If he had never offered Michael a contract, 450 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: I could agree with everything that he's said. Yes, Oh, Joe, 451 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, we had this conversation last night. Jamar Chase 452 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: was suspended one game. The one game suspension will cost 453 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: him over half a million dollars four hundred forty eight 454 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: thousand three hundred and thirty three dollars in a game 455 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: check and fifty eighty eight twenty four in an active 456 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: roster bonus. Chase plans to appeal and argue this one 457 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: game suspension, claiming that if it was going to spin 458 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spit in his face 459 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: and not on the man's jersey the ground. Oh Jose, 460 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: oh Joe, that's not come on, I mean, come on, Chase. 461 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: He didn't even talk to the media. 462 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: Heldo. That's what in rapaport said, is that he said 463 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: if he was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he 464 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: would have spent in his face and not on the 465 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: jersey the ground. 466 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he said that because he declined 467 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: to talk to the media. 468 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: He declined to talk to everybody today obviously, you know, 469 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: once you get out of watching film on Monday's he declined. 470 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: I guess his team put that out. But anyway, Uh, 471 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know. But first of all, 472 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: you said you didn't spit, So whether he was fitting 473 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: on the ground or you would have did X, Y 474 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: and Z, you said you didn't spit. That's what you said. 475 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: You said that after the game. Now all that, Oh Joe, 476 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: you know they shoot everything, man, you know they shoot everything. 477 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: You're four K and you can actually see it. Yeah 478 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: yeah you could. You could see pimbles on their booty 479 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: from the moon. That's how good the cameras are. 480 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 5: O Cho. 481 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Chase appeal it. 482 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: But I mean, I just think you should, you know, 483 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: call Ram and say, bro, I'm sorry, my motion's got 484 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: the best of me, and leave, and and and and 485 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: because this one incident, this is not you. I don't 486 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: believe this is you. I'm surprised that we're actually having 487 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: down to have this conversation and you're the topic of 488 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: the conversation because you're ensnared in this. I wouldn't believed it. 489 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: If you, you would have been the very last person 490 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: they said, A receiver. I probably there are some other 491 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: names I might have would have went to, but I 492 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't have 493 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: put that. I wouldn't have put that on you. So 494 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope that's what I Rappaport said. He 495 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: said his team said, or he said, I don't believe it. 496 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say, let's just say, but for 497 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: the sake of but you did spit on it, whether 498 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: you would have what you would have done, you spit 499 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: on the man, and Uh, it's gonna cost you, but 500 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: you'll learn from it. I don't believe this is the 501 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: type of person that you are. We've all done things 502 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: that we're We're not the It's not our finest moment, 503 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: and don't I don't think this moment should just define 504 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. They're gonna be There're gonna be a lot 505 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: of other moments that we can look back and define 506 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase with. This is not gonna be a defining moment. 507 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: But the best, the best apology with cho is change behavior. 508 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: Don't let something like this happen again, and were gonna 509 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: be good. Bro. 510 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 2: The funny thing about it, when we talk about James, 511 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: when we talk about change behavior from the players, I'm 512 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: not just speaking on Jamar Chase in general. The change 513 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: behavior most of the time. You know, he gonna make 514 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: you forget about it on the field. Yes, gonna make 515 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: you forget about it on the field. 516 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 3: And we never had problems out of Chase off the 517 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: field anyway. 518 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: No, you don't want to have a problems from him. 519 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: So when when you when you think about hypothetical, if 520 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: this scenario or this situation never happened and he just 521 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: thought of some players that that that would come from, 522 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 2: it wouldn't come from him because he's one. 523 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: Who causes no problems. The problem is on the field 524 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: is Bucker's hell. That's it. 525 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: That's why. That's why I struggle. That's why you struggle 526 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: because you know him better than I do. And there 527 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: was never any indication he's so laid back. He's so 528 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: much if you watch it when it does an interview, 529 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: he's sitting back. He chilled, He's sitting like this here 530 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: all the time. 531 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 532 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: So he and the little bit that I've been around him, 533 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: I've been around him a couple of times during the 534 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: autograph signing. I saw him at the super Bowl. He's 535 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: a chill guy. He's not one of these high strung 536 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: guys that you know best lively to go off. He's 537 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: really mild mannered. So that's why it's so surprising. But 538 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, look, like I said, you know, this season 539 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: was supposed to be different. They missed the playoffs last year, 540 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: he had the Triple Crown. He's the first Triple Crown 541 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: since my brother to win that and not make the playoffs. 542 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: My brother won the Triple Crowd in ninety two, they 543 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs. He won the Triple Crown in 544 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: twenty four, they didn't. So almost thirty almost well over 545 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: thirty years. So it doesn't happen often because there's not 546 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: a whole lot of people that win the Triple Crown. 547 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: It's hard, so you gotta have You gotta have the 548 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: most catches, yards and touchdowns versus everybody, not just the NFC, 549 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: but the AFC as well. Sometimes you can have yards, 550 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: sometimes you could have ketches and then somebody nips you 551 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: with touchdown. He had both. It's kind of like winning 552 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: the Triple Crown in baseball. Yeah yeah, you could have 553 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: a three eighty batan average, but you got forty home 554 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: runs and somebody got fifty, or somebody drives in one 555 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five. That's why it doesn't happen that often. 556 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: Mickey Camaro was the last one, and then you gotta 557 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: go all the way back to Yazz call you scrimsky. 558 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, and they say who okay. 559 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah so or the same thing in horse racing. You know, ay, 560 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: you might win that first two. Put that mile and 561 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: a half at the bailmarks. 562 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: That's hell boy. 563 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. If you notice now a lot of horses just like, hey, 564 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: forget it, they just stay. They like, I don't even 565 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: worry about it. We win the Kentucky Derby, we'll skip 566 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: the Preakness. We'll see you at the Bellmont, right. I mean, 567 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: it was such a long time. And then I mean 568 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: because everybody thought it was easy, you get Secretary in 569 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: seventy three, and then you get Seattle salou In a 570 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: firm back to the back year seventy seven, seventy eight, 571 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: and then it's like, well, it's man, it's too hard, 572 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: it's too hard, it's too hard. And then you get 573 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: American fayroh do it, and then you come back with 574 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: a justified Bob Baffort two horses. Yeah, it's hard, it's hard. 575 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: You probably had more Triple Crown winners in baseball than 576 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: you have Norse racing. 577 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. But uh, and that's that's difficult. 578 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. 579 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: And you've you've been to the Kentucky Derby. 580 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: Before, I beeno, we got a it's all about Joe, 581 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: it's all about the hat. Yes, for a man and 582 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: a woman, it's all about I've seen women come with 583 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: some hats and be barefooted, to be baref barefooted. Yeah, yeah, 584 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking because normal, I don't know, for some reason, 585 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: it normally rains. Yeah, but ojo, the lady have these hats. 586 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean one lady had a hat. I mean this 587 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: this hat with way out here like this here. You know, 588 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: your boy, we had that hand of he are. 589 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 3: You you was at the sharp? Huh you're sharp? 590 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: If a fly little if a fly would have landed 591 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: on you trying to cut his throat. Yeah, you see 592 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: you messing me up. You're messing up the ensemble. Yeah, 593 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm clean oo. 594 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know I have been there a 595 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: few times obviously when I was in Cincinnati. 596 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: Is right, is right down the street. 597 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: Right As a matter of fact, Hell, I flew into 598 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: Cincinnati and drove. 599 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: Over down yeah yeah, yeah, down the street. 600 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: Man. 601 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 3: It's a great event. I only did it one time. 602 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: You know, I'm I'm not in that kind of. 603 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: That's that's where I met. I met. I met Bob Bafford, 604 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: him and his son. At the time, I met a 605 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: rest his soul. I think d Wayne Lucas. Uh, I 606 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: met a couple of them. 607 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, it's grazy. It's awesome sports. 608 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable because it was. It's on my bucket list. 609 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I've been to a World Series obviously, 610 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: I've been to a Super Bowl. Uh, the Kentucky Derby. 611 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: I want to do Daytona five hundred I went to. 612 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: I want to do webbled Us. 613 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: Do me, do me, do me a favor, to give 614 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: yourself some justice so you can understand the experience when 615 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: you go to the Daytona five hundred. 616 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: Do not let them put you in a suite. You 617 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: need to sit in the stand so you can get. 618 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: The feel the feeling. Go ride that track. 619 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you've got to be able to experience it. 620 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: You got to feel those cars coming around. You know, 621 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 2: the energy, the aura, the stands, you got the oh man, 622 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: it's under. 623 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, It's it's crazy. I mean it's something 624 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: about when you feel, when you feel eight hundred horse power. 625 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: There's forty two of those cars and they going one 626 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty, one hundred and ninety miles an hour, 627 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: and they're this close, they're this close, and those cars 628 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: are damn they're upside down. Mm hmm. 629 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. 630 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: Hey boy, hey, hey, would they be a they bump draft. 631 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: That's a rested soula terminator. They'll earn heart. Boom boom, 632 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: sling shot down in the back. Ah, man, I gotta 633 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: see that. When I got to see that, I want 634 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: to see Wilmen because I went to see I saw 635 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: the US Open. I saw Serena who uh she just 636 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: got married to uh a couple of years ago, to 637 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: David Lee. She uh, the Dane, the tennis player. She 638 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: married David Lee, the basketball player. I saw her and 639 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: Serena play a semifinal at the US Open on a 640 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: Saturday night. What's her name, kept wolse Naki. Yep, she 641 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: married David Lee. I think they got a couple of kids, 642 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: because I saw them in I just saw them in 643 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: Vegas maybe for the Super Bowl. Uh, David Lee, Michael 644 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: Phelps and his wife, and it was David Lee and Wolseanyaki. Uh. 645 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: But man, oh, I got it, I got it. Huh. 646 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: You look at your boy, Hey boy, you clean? Man? 647 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 3: I see you, okay, you clean? 648 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: Look I pulled out I was in the urby, all right. Yeah, yeah, 649 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: it's April. Oh Joe, we might have to jump down 650 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: there club, I mean a nightcamp. Might have to go 651 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: on the road at the Derby. 652 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 3: Hey, you listen. I get my hat ready right now. 653 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: Don't don't don't tell me. 654 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 2: Hey, can you know when it when it comes to putting, 655 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: putting them things over and I put that, I put that, 656 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: I put that, you know what on that? 657 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm ready. 658 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, we better have to go and do a little something. 659 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: Speaking to speaking of horses in Kentucky derby, my daughter, 660 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: my daughter chat she plays tennis. 661 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: She's phenomenal, she's phenomena, and she. 662 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 2: Loves horses until I love she said, I'm gonna blame 663 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 2: my mama. 664 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 3: I'm gonna blame my mama. We went riding horses this 665 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 3: past week and a week and before last. She asked 666 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 3: me all about types of horses and telling me about saddles, 667 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, what in the world you learn 668 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: all that stuff? 669 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: Man told about? 670 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: She's really into it. So I'm like, okay, okay. 671 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: Cool being in your pockets too. 672 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, So as soon as we finish riding, you know, 673 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: the first thing Christmas coming up. So the first thing 674 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: I do, I'm aving talking to the lady we on 675 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 2: the trail were riding. Ask the train, I say, you 676 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: know what horses run? How much they cost? Okay, one 677 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: thousand and fifteen something simple? 678 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: Bed? 679 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: Please? 680 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: You know I ain't getting I ain't getting nothing too expensive. Now, 681 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 2: you know she she's young now, so I'm like, okay, 682 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: what about Bordon? 683 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: What about feeding? They have places? Do they have places 684 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: out there? 685 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you spending the money. 686 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 3: You know they have bored It's like, yeah, that's yes, 687 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: a horse there's boredon. 688 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 2: So I asked her, I say, well, listen, I'm leaving 689 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: the information and you know, send it to me and 690 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: the numbers and what it costs a weekly, monthly and 691 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 2: for the year. And I'm thinking about, you know, getting 692 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: a daughter. I'm thinking about getting a paso. I don't 693 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: want nothing, none too big. I want some a little smaller. 694 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: The riders smooth and a pasta fino would be perfect 695 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: for her. Yeah, I'm just curious. I'm kind of excited. 696 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: I'm kind of excited for her because she loved them 697 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: so much, and I think that would be one of 698 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: the best rest surprises for one of one of my 699 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: eighty five. 700 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 3: On Christmas, morning. 701 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: The thing is that, yeah, you get a horse for 702 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: a decent pride, you probably spend fifteen hundred maybe five 703 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. 704 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 3: What you got to put into it completely. 705 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: Different, but the board it and eat it. 706 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, but see. 707 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: And to also, you had to understand where I live 708 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: in Miami out that way, you know, because I'm further 709 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 2: out up north in west. 710 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: A little bit. 711 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 3: Ain't nothing out there but horses and stables, that's it. 712 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: And when you think Miami, you think South Beats, you know, 713 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: all the nice stuff. 714 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 3: But I'm out there in the in the I don't 715 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: even know what you want to call it. 716 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: You know. 717 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: You go to Walmart, you go to Target, and when 718 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: you when you're driving, it's people riding horses up and 719 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: down the street like we in god damn Texas. 720 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, that's done. I'm serious. 721 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: That's how far out I am from everybody. 722 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams at DJ Moore and you walked it off. 723 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: Uh. 724 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: They won the toss. They elected the green Bay to 725 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: have the ball because they wanted to see what they needed. 726 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: Green Bay was driving down the field, fumbled a snap, 727 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: and the rest is, as they say history. They had 728 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: got a there was third and twenty and the guy 729 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: grabbed Caleb Williams face mask mask gave him life when 730 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: he really didn't have to do that. But hey, you're 731 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: grabbing so right when those things happened. But Caleb Williams 732 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: nineteen or thirty four, two fifty two touchdowns, he wasn't 733 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 1: sacked and he didn't turn the football over. DeAndre Swift 734 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 1: ran the ball thirteen times for fifty eight yards. College 735 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: mat mana. 736 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 3: Guy Managuy Monoguy. 737 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: Managuy Montaguy had nine for fifty. KYLEB. Williams rand the 738 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: ball three times for thirty yards. They had twenty sixth 739 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: rush one hundred and fifty yards with DJ Moore five 740 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: for ninety seven and a big touchdown. They win this 741 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: ball game. They looked like they're gonna win this division. 742 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: Who would have based on what they had last year. 743 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: But we thought with Ben Johnson coming in, you picked 744 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: them to be one of your surprise teams, them in 745 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers to be one of your surprise teams. 746 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: And I think they've surprised a lot. I think they're 747 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: a lot better than people. They thought they would improve. 748 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: But I don't think anybody thought given that division with 749 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay and Detroit stealing that division. Oho, I don't 750 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: think anybody had Chicago pick to win that division. Just 751 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: go to show you what the coaching staff they brought 752 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: in some addition, they revamped the offensive line in center 753 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 1: in dalbn new left guard and Thooney new right tackle. 754 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: So they revamped that offensive lie and they got Lovelace lovedly. 755 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: Excuse me, Loveland is the tight end, the first round 756 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: draft pick, and he's been phenomenal. So give the Chicago 757 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: Bears credit. Oho. Jordan Love leaves the game, but Malik 758 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: Willis did not disappoint. He played extremely well eleven one 759 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: and twenty one yards, threw a touchdown pass the Romeo Dobbs. 760 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: But it was not enough, because this was all about 761 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. When they needed to get a stop, 762 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: they got a stop. They've been but they didn't rate. 763 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: They made him settle for a field goal. And the 764 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: because they kids score touchdown, the games over, yes, but 765 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: they made him kick a field goal. They go down 766 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: the field, getting field goal range, kick the field goal, 767 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: go for the on side. Romeo doms misplayed it. Uh 768 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: and and and given his concussion history, Ojoe, I'm not 769 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: so sure, you want him there with those kind of 770 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: collisions because that's th they're coming, and they're coming with 771 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: bad intentions. And remember that you ain't no help in 772 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: the help on the own side. Now that's a car, 773 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: that is a for real car crash. 774 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you also you want you want your players 775 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 2: with your best hands and the ones that you trust 776 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 2: the most in those such important situations like that, You 777 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: want them on your hands team. 778 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, Josh Jacobs going in for a touchdown, he 779 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 1: fumbled the football. That has been his history. He's had 780 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,479 Speaker 1: a history. He's had a propensity to put the ball 781 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: on the ground. So Jo And as we start getting 782 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: closer and closer, and we start in December and we 783 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: moved towards January. Yes, I have to hold on to 784 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: the football. Yes, you cannot turn it over. The ball 785 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: is a premium and it cost them. And guess what, 786 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: we didn't see him anymore. Yeah, yeah, we didn't see 787 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: him anymore. Listen if Manuel Wilson took over from there, Yeah, 788 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, you got to do a better job of 789 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: holding on to the football. They know, they know you'll 790 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: give it up at some point in time, and they're 791 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: gonna keep hammering at it. You're good back, but you 792 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: gotta hold on to the football. Oh, Joe, what did 793 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: you like about what you saw from Chicago? Because Green 794 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: Bay really controlled this game. 795 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: Listen until Yeah, they controlled the game. That really, they 796 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 2: controlled the game and its entirety throughout the game. I really, honestly, 797 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, I thought the Bears are gonna lose, 798 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: and going into the fourth quarter, five minutes left into 799 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, the game is sixteen to six. Yeah, 800 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, that's a two score game with only 801 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: five minutes left on the clock. So many different things 802 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: have to go right for the Bears to even have 803 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 2: a chance to come back. And those goddamn things that 804 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 2: needed to go right, unk they went right. Those things 805 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: absolutely went right. The center exchange, the mess up between 806 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 2: Malie Willis in the center, Hey, listen, you can't have 807 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: that with the starting center and the backup quarterback. 808 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 3: How many snaps do they get? 809 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: Think about it, Joe, you got to realize Malik Willis 810 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: has been in the game, so they had taken a 811 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: lot of them. They had to thinking about when Jordan 812 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: Love went out, right, Malik Willis comes in, he comes yes, 813 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: because I didn't see. I didn't mean and I want 814 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: you to go o Joe. I didn't see Jordan Love 815 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: until they replayed it where he got help and the helmet. Yes, 816 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: I did, I didn't see it in real time reformed down. 817 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: I said, why they why did they bring Malik Willison 818 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: right and then and then when they went back they 819 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: showed it. I said, Okay, that's why they belie Willison 820 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: go ahead and finish a point. 821 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 2: But also I think that might have been a problem. 822 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: Like you know, you can't you can't blame the weather. 823 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 2: You can't blame the weather. I would I would just 824 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 2: say the fact that even though even though he wasn't 825 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: there for a few snaps once Jordan Love went out, 826 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: I mean that center and quarterback exchange and the fact 827 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 2: that they haven't had any type of continuity together, that 828 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 2: might have played a part in it. 829 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 3: Maybe Malik Willison closed. 830 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: His hands fast enough. 831 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. 832 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, because Jordan Love is taking a thousand 833 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 2: god damn snaps and it hasn't been one center exchange 834 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: where there's been an issue, and all of a sudden, 835 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 2: there's one tonight, and obviously certain things that have to 836 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 2: go right, and that was one of them that had 837 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 2: to go right in the Bear's favor for them to 838 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 2: even have an opportunity and a chance to win this game, 839 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 2: including the goddamn on sidekick. 840 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: When you fall behind, Ojoe, you have to as the 841 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: behind team, you have to do everything right because if 842 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: they messing up, Ojo, we how many times we said, oh, 843 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: the game was right there for the taken such and 844 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: such did did such and such and such did that, 845 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: But you didn't take advantage of the opportunity. So if 846 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: you're the behind team from the time you're behind, you 847 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: have to do everything right. Now as the team that's 848 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: in the lead, you need because all they needed to 849 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: look in the momentum because realize you're on the road. 850 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: So what happens, O Joe. Now of a sudden the 851 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: crowd gets back in the game. The game's had the 852 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: crowd at Bay for the entirety of the game quiet. 853 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you got seventy thousand fans. 854 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: They're into it, and then they stop you ONWN third. 855 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: I don't I don't like the call. I didn't like 856 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: to call him third down. I think you give the ball. 857 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: I think you give the ball to a Manuel Wilson 858 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: and you go ahead and get the first down, and 859 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 1: I look and I'm I just hate that offset. I 860 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: just hate But anyway, that's not to hear a no there. 861 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: But with that being said, oh Joe, I think Emanuel Wilson, 862 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: you're giving the ball both times and you say offensive lives. 863 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: We need one yard, we need one yard. Now we 864 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: get a new set of downs. They didn't happen. I 865 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: think the Bears, the Bears Bears give deserves a lot 866 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: of credit. But Malik Willis showed me something because when 867 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking at him in Tennessee, we didn't see this 868 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: Elie Willis, So it might be something. In Tennessee, Mike 869 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: Raby was his coach. They didn't want him. He looked 870 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: like a very, very competent quarterback. He looks like he 871 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: can be a starter. I can look around the league 872 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: and he's better than some people starters. That be the system. 873 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: It might be green Bay and what they have to offer, 874 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,959 Speaker 1: But oh Joe, he looks They're competent. 875 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: Right now now, and you heard what you just said. 876 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 2: It might be the system, or it might be what 877 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: green Bay has to offer. You gotta look what he 878 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 2: has around him. Look at what he has surrounding him. 879 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 2: Look at the personnel, Look at the offensive line, look 880 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 2: at the running back, look at the receiver, the receiving corps. 881 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: So you're gonna look like a competent quarterback when you're 882 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 2: playing for a team from top to bottom that understands 883 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: how to build a team where you can compete week 884 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: in and week out. Of course, I mean, when's the 885 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 2: last Tennessee. When is the last time Tennessee has a 886 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 2: team that's been structurally built from the top to bottom, 887 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 2: you know, to be able to compete week to week. 888 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 2: There's a reason it was picking number one in the 889 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: draft last year. There's a reason why. So they're not 890 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 2: gonna look the same. And unless you're a superman, you 891 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 2: can't go to a team that's not structurally built the 892 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,439 Speaker 2: right way. You gotta be superman to make them look good, 893 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. 894 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: Bears take control of the NFC North Ojo. Yeah, eleven 895 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: and four, their game behind the Seattle Seahawks that are 896 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: twelve and three. But there are two games in front 897 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: of the green Bay Packers. Now, well they're game and 898 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: a half because green Bay has a tie. Actually, yeah, 899 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: well theoretically, that's two games, because you know, they only 900 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: have four in the loss column and you got one, 901 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: got five in the lost column and one in the 902 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: tie column. So they're two games ahead of green Bay 903 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: and their three games in the win column ahead of Detroit. 904 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: We'll see what Detroit does tomorrow. But if they win 905 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: one of these last two games, one of their last 906 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: two ball games, they're gonna win the NF They're gonna 907 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: win the NFC North, and they'll be the number they have, 908 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: they'll be the number two seed. 909 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 910 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: The New York Jets OJO, are benching Justin Phields for 911 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: backup Tyrod Taylor. The moves comes following the twenty seven 912 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: to fourteen lost to Patriots last Thursday Night, the game 913 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: in which Fields through four one hundred and sixteen yards 914 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: on fifteen to twenty six passing. Phil signed a two year, 915 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: forty million dollar deal with the Jets last spring. The 916 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 1: contract guarantees them twenty million and twenty five and another 917 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: ten million in twenty six. OJO. Does this bention suggest 918 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,959 Speaker 1: that the Justin field experiment is officially over? 919 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 3: Yes, it does, and I hate that for young Bull. 920 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be honest. 921 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 2: I hate it for him, and not only is experiment over, 922 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 2: it puts the Jet back in. It put the Jets 923 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 2: back in the same position that they've been in for 924 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 2: a very. 925 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 3: Long time since your name. 926 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 2: It is in search of a quarterback number one. They're 927 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 2: back in search of quarterback number one. I really was pulling, 928 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 2: you know, for Justin Fields and hoping this would be 929 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 2: his season to have his own team things that go well. 930 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 3: With the Bears. 931 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 2: He went to Pittsburgh, we saw flashes. We saw flashes 932 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 2: of brilliants leading that Pittsburgh steal a team offensively to 933 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 2: a four and two record before he was ben for 934 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson that Mike Tomlin had said would be the 935 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 2: starter once he gets back healthy. Now, Justin Fields, this 936 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 2: is your team, you quarterback number one. You have nothing 937 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: to worry about. You have to look over your shoulders. 938 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 2: You can play freely, you know, just minimize your mistakes, 939 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 2: protect the ball, and try to run that offense as 940 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 2: efficient as you possibly can. 941 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 3: And to this point, were in week ten. Damn there, 942 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken. 943 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: Week ten, yeah, yeah, we're about here. 944 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 3: In the week twelve, Oh shit, well we in week 945 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 3: twelve and just. 946 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: No week thirty yeah, this is week twelve. Yeah, yeah, 947 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean but here in the week, yeah, week twelve at. 948 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 3: This point, basic numbers of what you've seen. 949 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 2: We've talked about it all the time, you know, having 950 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 2: games when you got twenty thirty yards at the half. 951 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: Man forty five yards passing an NFL quarterback. Yeah, okay, 952 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: once I get that, But oh Joe, multi five. 953 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 3: Back to back, back to back man, No. 954 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 2: And and at Sometimes when I think about it, Unk, 955 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 2: it's like, sometimes I think they sabotaged him, you know, 956 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 2: but I know that's not the case. That's the case, 957 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 2: because they can only sabotage you so much. 958 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: You know. 959 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,919 Speaker 3: It's it hurt. 960 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 2: I hurt for young boy because he's really he really 961 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 2: wonted the opportunity to be quarterback number one, and it 962 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 2: just hadn't panned out or worked out. Noes is probably 963 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 2: one of the worst situations to go to because you 964 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 2: have you have to be that much better at the 965 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 2: quarterback position that everything around you. You got to you 966 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 2: got to be able to elevate everybody else around you. 967 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,919 Speaker 2: And he's not that kind of quarterback man. 968 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Davonte Adams couldn't help him. 969 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one. That's a good one. That's 970 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 3: that's a good one. 971 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: So you put that that green and white on you 972 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,959 Speaker 1: already know damn. 973 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 3: Well listen, Tyrod, you know proven better. Tyrod. Don't get 974 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 3: in there. And the one thing about him, you know. 975 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 2: He's gonna move let it now, you're gonna let it go. 976 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 2: You're gonna move that ball too, He's gonna move that ball. 977 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 2: I wonder who'd have just got this week? 978 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:22,760 Speaker 1: Who did just played the Ravens? Oh? Hell no? Ship 979 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: hey uh in Baltimore? Tyrod A that's what Tyron started. 980 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: Remember Tyrod was the backup to Joe Blacko. 981 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 3: Did Joe Yeah, yep, I remember yep show. 982 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: Was and he started the Buffalo. He took Buffalo to 983 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs. People forget that. 984 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, that's right, that's right. 985 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: Yes. J Simmons said he's tired of sugar coating things 986 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: and it's sick of the Titans not playing complimentary football. 987 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what Jeffrey Simon's had to say. 988 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 5: We need to be better and we can't keep sitting 989 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 5: up saying the same thing, trying to shoot coach for 990 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 5: the media, for anybody, and I said it in the 991 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 5: locker room. 992 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: I said it on the field. 993 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 5: I'm tired of to coach and we need to be better. 994 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 5: At the end of the day, we need to protect 995 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 5: can better. 996 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: I accept that there was a defense when knowing if 997 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 1: you give up two touchdowns or. 998 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 3: You know, or whatever that man. 999 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,720 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, it's about companyment in football. 1000 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 4: We have to play better team football. We sometimes the 1001 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 4: office been playing good, sometimes the defense. How can we 1002 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 4: play good as a team? Preface were not playing good 1003 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 4: team football right now and it's showing. 1004 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 5: And Mike, Mike said in the practice Friday, we had 1005 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 5: freaking for the fall starts Friday, were playing at home. 1006 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 5: We shouldn't have the mini fall starts. Don't care Taylor feelings. 1007 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm tired of loosy. 1008 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 3: That's what I'm tired of doing. He frustrated by. 1009 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you talking about the offensive line. It's how 1010 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: we have that many fall starts and we played at 1011 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: home at home. 1012 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you shouldn't. 1013 00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 2: You shouldn't have any because the noise is on your 1014 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 2: side or the lack of noise is on your side, 1015 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 2: especially when the office is out there on the field. 1016 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,760 Speaker 3: Shouldn't shouldn't it shouldn't be any issues. 1017 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 2: I understand what he's what he's saying, and the key, 1018 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,879 Speaker 2: the keyword that he kept saying over and over is complimentary. 1019 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 2: You know, offense play well, defense play well. There has 1020 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 2: to be some type of balance on both sides. 1021 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 3: Now, you're not. 1022 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 2: Gonna execute on every every every single drive, not everything drive, 1023 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 2: but meet me halfway, meet me halfway, keep us off 1024 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 2: the field for a little bit. Don't go three and 1025 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 2: out thirty goddamn three times. I'm just thinking, I'm just 1026 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 2: throwing that number out there. 1027 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 3: But in general, Zieven's the tired. Give us a chance 1028 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 3: to rest. 1029 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 2: Let's put together some drives, some consecutive drives together, you. 1030 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 3: Know, give us a chance. 1031 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 2: They're not even with the way they're playing, they're not 1032 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 2: even getting themselves a chance to win games. 1033 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: Now, a little bit position to get the number one 1034 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: pick again next this year, I mean in twenty six. Yeah, 1035 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: and my dog, my dog, to get the back to 1036 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: back number one picks, that's tough. Well, hell, you know 1037 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: how you Bengals territory. You aren't Old Colt's territory. Yeah, 1038 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: but because you know y'all did that right? O? 1039 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 5: Yo? 1040 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: Who the Bengals? 1041 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, that Bangle was bad. 1042 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 1: John Occarter, Big Daddy Damn Wilkinson. 1043 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 3: Hey, the Bangles was bad. I'm talking about back then. 1044 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: You do realize that I was in the league where 1045 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: y'all were terrible. 1046 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1047 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, y'all come a long way, Oh Joe, Yeah 1048 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 1: we have Yeah, was terrible too, don't. The Patriots was 1049 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: terrible to a lot of terrible. 1050 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 3: It were bad. 1051 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 1: They were bad. 1052 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 2: Hey, but but Tennis, she got a long way to go. 1053 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:43,439 Speaker 2: You know how bad? 1054 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: You and you heard me? 1055 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 3: You know how? 1056 00:52:49,480 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: Or say the team hold on? We oh yo. I'm 1057 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 1: trying to think who's the last team to have back 1058 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: to back number one overall picks? So, like we said, 1059 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: like the Bengals did with a case John, I think 1060 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,240 Speaker 1: it was John Carter and Big Daddy Dad Wilkinson. 1061 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 4: Damn. 1062 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: What haven't the same team has done it twice? Who 1063 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: was that he would have done it twice? Back to 1064 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: back number one overall? 1065 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 3: Oh? Just the Bengals. 1066 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: Oh, you give me the years, I'm probably gonna get it. 1067 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah with uh uh Tim Couch and the god 1068 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: from Penn State, oh Cleveland, Yeah, oh yeah, Baker Mayfield 1069 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: and Miles Garrett. Oh, what was the defensive line that 1070 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: he of Courtney Brown? Because if I'm not mistaken, I 1071 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: think Courtney went one and and what you call him 1072 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: went two? Didn't he? Yeah? Uh uh didn't. Didn't Lebargo 1073 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: too to Washington after Courtney because they was on the 1074 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: same team. I think just like, uh, the Colts had 1075 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: the first two picks, and they took Steve Endman, and 1076 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 1: they took the guy from Texas A and m Quentin 1077 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 1: Coriat to Washington. Yeah. 1078 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 3: Wow, mm hmm. 1079 00:54:54,400 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 1: Chris Samuel the offensive lineman, yeah uh man, Yes, tough, 1080 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 1: Ojoe and and and and that's where you gotta have 1081 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: real strong leadership because when one side is pulling their 1082 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 1: weight and the other side he's pulling their weight, frustrations 1083 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: start to bubble. 1084 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:15,840 Speaker 3: Tennessee. 1085 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:22,800 Speaker 1: He gotta have some real, real, real, real strong uh uh. 1086 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tennessee leadership. Tennessee had some chances to win that game. 1087 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: So they did. They did, They absolutely did, They absolutely did. 1088 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 1: O Joe Bill's wide receiver Keon Coleman, is reportedly likely 1089 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: to be inactive for the second consecutive game. Keon is 1090 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,760 Speaker 1: expected to sit Tomorrow's against Texans. According to Eric Turner 1091 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: of Cover one. Earlier in the week, ko Shan McDermott 1092 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: said he needs to see Keon show growth to get 1093 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: back on the field. On Thursday Night against the Texans, 1094 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: the Bills are likely to go with Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore, 1095 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 1: Tyrrell Shavers, Khalil Shakir and Gabe Davis as active. 1096 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 3: Hey, listen, they're going with the veterans. They're going with 1097 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,919 Speaker 3: the betteran listen. 1098 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 2: Obviously, as a rookie, you know you want to come 1099 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 2: in and make your impact, but they have players that 1100 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 2: are a little bit more impactful, a little bit more 1101 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,879 Speaker 2: impactful than you are, and bring a little a little 1102 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 2: bit more to the table than you do, So you know, obviously, 1103 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,320 Speaker 2: I mean, at this point we're going in the week twelve, 1104 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 2: week thirteen, whatever it may be, I mean, it's already 1105 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 2: set in stone. I mean, anything that you could have 1106 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 2: shown or proved that you could do, you haven't done 1107 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,800 Speaker 2: it to date, which is why they're comfortable making you inactive, 1108 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 2: showing you that we can get the job done without you, 1109 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 2: especially as productive as they were offensively last week without you. 1110 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 1: Hell, you know that we don't need to have a 1111 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 1: great story with you I got a great story to 1112 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: tell you. 1113 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 2: And Joe, yeah, we had what five six touchdowns and 1114 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 2: you didn't play, so whatever, But what's what's the point. 1115 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: At this point? 1116 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 2: See up six yards? Yeah, hey, so hey, you know 1117 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 2: what that means to me? All it says is Keon Coleman, 1118 00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,319 Speaker 2: young bull. I know you're gonna see this, you know 1119 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 2: I I love you to death. We talk all the time. 1120 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 2: Come on down here with me in the off season. 1121 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 2: Come on down here with me the off seat, and 1122 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 2: I guarantee you they'll never sit you down again, even if. 1123 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 3: You do miss a meeting. 1124 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 2: He'll be too valuable for them and what you bring 1125 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,439 Speaker 2: to the table on a Sunday for the to sit 1126 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 2: you down. Come on down here, work with your boy now. 1127 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: I remember my rookie season, Dennis Smith, number forty nine, 1128 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, we call him Kahunah and Kahuna I mean 1129 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: he was one of the guys that from the time 1130 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: I got there, he always I don't know what it was, 1131 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: but the veteran players, a lot of the veteran players 1132 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: that were really good took a liking to me him 1133 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: l way. I mean, I mean veteran players. Hunah got 1134 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 1: there and eighty one. John got there officely in eighty 1135 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: three with the trade through Baltimore. But they the best 1136 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: took a liking to me, and I remember him saying, sharp, 1137 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: never let them see they can win without you, Ojo. 1138 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: That's why I shot up a lot of times because 1139 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: I didn't want my backup get in, and then all 1140 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden he played well, and then all of 1141 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 1: a sudden they figured they can move on from me. 1142 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: So that was also another reason that I shot up. 1143 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: But I'll never forget him saying that. He said, sharp, 1144 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: never let them see that they can win without you. 1145 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: If you notice who adopts that quarterbacks, Brady take every rep. 1146 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning took every rep, Brett Favre took every rep, 1147 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: Drew Brees took every rep. You not fin to see 1148 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: if that guy can play or he can't play, because 1149 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna give you an opportunity to let you 1150 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 1: see if he can play. You just got to go 1151 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 1: on your instinct because I ain't coming out of there. 1152 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: See what Keon Coleman did. He allowed them to let 1153 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: Terrell Shavers get on the field show we can win 1154 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: without him. Now once they find out they can win 1155 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: without you guess what they'll do, O Joe win without 1156 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 1: you and they'll move on. Now the coach says, I 1157 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: need to see growth. We having a conversation about a 1158 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: guy in the second year that shows growth. Now, I'm 1159 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: gonna tell you got a great personality. But after a 1160 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: while you were gonna start, they'll be gonna be laughing 1161 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 1: at you. You're talking about Guess what the jacket. Guess 1162 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: where I got the jacket from. I'm gonna go back 1163 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: against It's funny, Kiki ki. But at the end of 1164 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 1: the day, you better be putting some points on the board. 1165 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: You better be get some yards. You better be get 1166 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 1: some catches, You better get some some sacks of interceptions. 1167 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 1: You better do something other than make them laugh, because 1168 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: they gonna say you need to go to the mprov. 1169 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 1: You need to be at the laugh factory, because the 1170 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 1: football fiel ain't where you need to be. Right at 1171 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: the end of the day, as my good friend Globe said, 1172 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: that they gonna end, and when it ends, you better 1173 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: have catches, yards and touchdowns. If you play on the 1174 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: officers side of football as a skill position player and 1175 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: they're not playing, they ay Ojo, it's too much money involved. 1176 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: Because before you know it, they're gonna have to make 1177 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: an investment twenty twenty five thirty thirty five forty million dollars. 1178 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 1: And they said, hold on you doing this and you're 1179 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: on your rookie contract. What's gonna happen? We give you 1180 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:55,919 Speaker 1: thirty million O Joe. 1181 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, you're right. 1182 00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 2: You got to be special. They got to be something 1183 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 2: about you, Joe. They got to be something about you 1184 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 2: as a receiver that separates you. Everybody play receiver, everybody 1185 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 2: can run, everybody can can catch. What is it about 1186 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 2: you that makes you that much more valuable and better 1187 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:13,439 Speaker 2: than the next man? 1188 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 3: It got to be one thing. He ain't got to 1189 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 3: be a bunch. 1190 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 2: You got to be one thing that separates you from 1191 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 2: everybody else. Hey, uncle Joe, you know on every on 1192 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 2: every NFL team, there's a number one receiver and there's 1193 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 2: a number two receiver. There's something about that number one 1194 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 2: receiver that the number two can't do. 1195 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 3: Whatever it may be. 1196 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 2: They both play the same position, but one is a 1197 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 2: little better than the other. You have to find that 1198 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 2: one niche It got just just one, Joe, that's it. 1199 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 2: That's all it takes. And they got to find it. 1200 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 2: His personality is so big. It's so big. If we 1201 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 2: can get his game on the field to match his personality. 1202 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god, hey, Joe, I'm talking about It's two 1203 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 2: It's two players I want to work with so bad, Joe, 1204 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 2: so bad, because I know if I can get them 1205 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 2: anywhere close to how their personality is in front of 1206 01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 2: that camera off the field, we. 1207 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,479 Speaker 3: Talk about all world, Which about all world? 1208 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 2: They could be in a conversation of top five based 1209 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 2: on if they can get their skill set up the 1210 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 2: part of mess they personality. 1211 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 3: Coleman is one. The other one is Exavier legged. 1212 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 2: Hey listen the boys, them boys electric when that cameras 1213 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 2: in front of him. Bro, if if if I can 1214 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 2: get the game to match their personality. 1215 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 6: Man, okay, Ocho, I like he on Coleman and uh, 1216 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 6: this could be a wake up call for him, you know, 1217 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 6: for for him to be a healthy scratch again, like 1218 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 6: you know, you know what what could potentially be coming 1219 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 6: next down the pipe. Man, This should this should make 1220 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 6: him really look at himself in the mirror and get 1221 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 6: the work and be like, man, when I get back 1222 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 6: out there, I got to get him boys, hell, you 1223 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 6: know what I mean. 1224 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm hoping. 1225 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 6: I'm hoping he takes some good from this, bro, because 1226 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 6: I seen him over there dancing and all that when 1227 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 6: he knew. 1228 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: He was out. But hey, look I tell that hurt me. Man. 1229 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 6: I tell my son who in college? I say, Bro, 1230 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,439 Speaker 6: they watching you, even when you don't think they watching you. Boy, 1231 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 6: they watching you. Yeah, they watching you. So you sit 1232 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 6: over there in more pounds and do all watching. Man, 1233 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 6: We've all been here. 1234 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: The longer you go without something, the easier it is 1235 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 1: to be without something. The longer they play without Kean 1236 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 1: in that lineup, the easy it becomes to them to 1237 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 1: play without him in the lineup. Give you prime example. 1238 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 1: You saw they say CD and and and pick went out. Now, 1239 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: if that's the third, fourth and fifth receiver, they're not 1240 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 1: even playing right. But that's the one and two receiver. 1241 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: They missed a series. You see the difference. Jimmy Johnson say, 1242 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson cut a guy for sleeping in the meeting. 1243 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: The reporter said, with Jimmy, if that was Troy and 1244 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,520 Speaker 1: he was sleeping the meeting, what would you have done? 1245 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: He said, how to woke his ass up? One guy 1246 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 1: get cut the other guy get the other guy get 1247 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,720 Speaker 1: get woken up the ass Mike, well back, you know 1248 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 1: you you say you lead the players if they're not well, 1249 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 1: what if it's a what if it's TV, what if 1250 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 1: it's sharp, what if it's a way. Well, that's the 1251 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: one thing about charting the flight. They'll wait on you. 1252 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna wait. But you you understand the level of 1253 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: importance by some of the things that you can get 1254 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: away with. But I'm gonna be on time because I 1255 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 1: need to be on the back of the plane to 1256 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 1: make sure when everybody else get on, I see what 1257 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: they're wearing so I can cut their ass up when 1258 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 1: they got on the bullet jove. And that's what my 1259 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 1: job was, Joe, get to the plane early so I 1260 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: can see what you got on. You know. If you 1261 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 1: got on bus too, that's what shark was, that's what them, 1262 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: that's where them jonings, them joners work. It was coming 1263 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: out if you got on some bull jive, don't you 1264 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 1: get on bus too. We had coaches getting on our bus. Man, 1265 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 1: I just want to see what eighty folk gonna say 1266 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: about what such and such got on up to the 1267 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: right place. His ass up. But Ken, don't you don't, 1268 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 1: don't you don't you let us cutch. You don't you 1269 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 1: give us a reason to cut you. Yeah, they will. Well, 1270 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 1: you understand, there's a in college right now, won't key 1271 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: on covin spot. There's a guy in high school want 1272 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: to be a starting receiver, want to be a receiver 1273 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Bills at high school. Bro, they got 1274 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 1: his head down working, d y'all, this ain't no, This 1275 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 1: ain't no doctor, no lawyer. You don't get no thirty 1276 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 1: of your career in the NFL. They replaced every year 1277 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 1: to turnover. That's why the average NFL career is two 1278 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 1: point three years. Even when you get a guy like 1279 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, they got twenty seasons. Even you got a 1280 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 1: guy like Marcedes Lewis, they got twenty seasons in fifteen 1281 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 1: and eighteen. The average NFL career is two point three years. 1282 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 1: That's it. So how many guys in order for that 1283 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 1: twenty and eighteen and fifteen OJO to drag it down 1284 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: to two point three That means a lot of guys 1285 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: playing one year or not even play it at all 1286 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: at all. 1287 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 6: Absolutely, Hey, look at it. Look look look at the NBA. 1288 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,640 Speaker 6: It's four hundred and fifty guys every year, not just 1289 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 6: this year, not last year. Every year. So if they 1290 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 6: got fifty new guys coming in every year, guess what 1291 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 6: they gotta have at least fifty going out. Fifty guys 1292 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 6: gotta go. It's four hundred and fifty guys. It's only 1293 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 6: four hundred and fifty guys every year. 1294 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 5: Bro. 1295 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 2: Hey, that's why you got to stay on top of 1296 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 2: your game. That's why you gotta continguency train. That's it, 1297 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 2: And don't give him a reason to gotta get better. 1298 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 1: Oh hoe, tonight, this game wasn't closed. Jackson Dart did 1299 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 1: it with his arm and his leg scat packed with 1300 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 1: sensational nineteen carries ninety eight yards, three touchdown, Jackson Dart 1301 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 1: thirteen carries fifty eight yards another touchdown. They gained one 1302 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two yards on the ground. Jackson Dart 1303 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 1: was seventeen or twenty five one nine five one touchdown. 1304 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 1: He was sacked, but he didn't turn the ball over. 1305 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 1: And when you can turn them, when you can take 1306 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 1: care of the football and you play, you have a 1307 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 1: great chance of winning. Jalen Hurst was twenty four thirty 1308 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 1: three two eighty three one touchdown. Oh Joe, what we 1309 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 1: say about that? 1310 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 2: Late ball if you laying inside, is going the other 1311 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 2: way every time, and. 1312 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 1: It almost did. 1313 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 1314 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 1: They ran the ball twenty times for seventy three yards, 1315 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: but they ran the twuisch point four times in the row. 1316 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 1: They got a touchdown at it. Dallas guardup has seven 1317 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 1: ketchuls one hundred and ten yards a touchdown. AJ Brown 1318 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 1: had six for eighty. Davonta Smith, who Jalen hurts overthrow, 1319 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 1: would have had like a ninety yard touchdown, but he 1320 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 1: had four for forty nine. Oh Joe. The Giants just 1321 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 1: the Giants did whatever they wanted to do. 1322 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 3: Both sides of the ball too at that, and both 1323 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 3: sides of the ball at that. 1324 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: For one. 1325 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 3: I want to talk about Jackson Dark. I want to 1326 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 3: say about Hood. 1327 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 2: Jackson Dark looks as a rookie. Obviously, Russell Wilson started 1328 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 2: the season for the Giants, but when Jackson Dark got 1329 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 2: his opportunity, he came in and closed the door right 1330 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 2: behind him. 1331 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 3: Yep, he's making the. 1332 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 2: Throws, he's reading, he's improvising, he's escaping, he's eluding, he's 1333 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 2: using his legs, he's using his arm. His best weapon 1334 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 2: went down with knee injury. But you wouldn't know that 1335 01:06:53,560 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 2: his best weapon offensively outside the scatter Bow was Hurt 1336 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 2: is a real deal and he's very exciting. The combination 1337 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 2: of him and Scatterbo together, it's like two little kids. 1338 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 2: It's like two little kids got there on the playground. Yes, 1339 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 2: you're in the game of football at the highest level 1340 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 2: and it's refreshing. It's refreshing for the Giants fans. As 1341 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 2: you can see and you can hear. You know, you watch, 1342 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 2: you watch, you watch the game with the sound off, 1343 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 2: but just just watching the reaction and the sound of 1344 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 2: the Giants. 1345 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 1: Oh, they gonna can see the fans when they're paying 1346 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: and the fans going, I'm sure they saying uh bull 1347 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: like for scatter Bow. Scott Pack was doing his thing, 1348 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart, I'm sure the hell in dark look this 1349 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 1: was look and we'll get to this, ohoe. Because the 1350 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 1: Eagles didn't play well and they got some issues and 1351 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 1: we tried to tell them about the issues that they have. 1352 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: But you know what, Ojo, but you can't tell Giants 1353 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 1: fan anything because you creak. If I critique Jalen Hurts, 1354 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: you don't like black people. You don't say this about 1355 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 1: white quarterback. If I critique their team. I'm jealous. I'm envious. Okay, fine, 1356 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 1: I should have you undivided attention cause I caldn't get 1357 01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 1: your attention at first because you was winning. And see 1358 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: that when you win it, you can't get nobody's attention. 1359 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 1: Now I should have your undivided attention because you're lost twice. Yes, 1360 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 1: the Giants, they got to make it of a good team. 1361 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 1: The only thing that concerns me Oho is pressure. There 1362 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 1: are times back there that Jalen Hurst with. 1363 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 3: Just sitting there patting the ball and. 1364 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 1: Two of the three and two of the four pass 1365 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 1: rushers was on the ground. They've got to generate pressure 1366 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 1: because they don't have a lead on the back end. 1367 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 1: And so you should be able. When you got d Lawrence, 1368 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 1: when you got a phibideo, when you got a dual carter, 1369 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 1: that should be more than enough to create pressure to 1370 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 1: create habit. And not nearly and I forgot Brian Burns. Yeah, 1371 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 1: that should be enough, more than enough to create havoc. 1372 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 1: Not enough habit was created tonight. You won the game. 1373 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,800 Speaker 1: But in order for you to keep building on this, 1374 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 1: you got ten week, you got ten days off, you 1375 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to soak in this I'm sure the 1376 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,839 Speaker 1: Giants fans are going crazy, somewhat crazy because the Yankees 1377 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 1: lost last night. But if you're a Giant fan, you 1378 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: look at Jackson Dart, you're like, man. He won his 1379 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 1: first game. He was playing really well against the Saints, 1380 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 1: and then he started turning the ball over. If we 1381 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 1: can protect the ball, I think we might got something. 1382 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: Skat Pack was doing what Skatpack does. He runs hard. 1383 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: He's looking to run through, as Marshawn Lynch would say, 1384 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 1: run through a mofo face, and he runs with authority. 1385 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 1: He's looking to deliver a blow. When he blocked, he's 1386 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 1: blocking all out. When he's running, he's running all out. 1387 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,200 Speaker 1: He missed a couple of cuts early, but hey, allus 1388 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 1: forgive h He was a rookie. He'll get better as 1389 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 1: time progresses. But I thought the Giants offensive line O 1390 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 1: ho whmen. We talked about that thing with the seal. Hey, 1391 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 1: he was just coming to a you're gonna block him. 1392 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 1: But they did a ground. I thought they did a 1393 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 1: better job tonight of protecting Jackson Dark. He did a 1394 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 1: great job of avoiding the rush. When he needed to run, 1395 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 1: he got rid of He got out of the pocket 1396 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 1: when he needed to throw the ball away. He threw 1397 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,680 Speaker 1: it away. I liked what I saw from the New 1398 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: York Football Giant. Wandale Robinson had himself a game a 1399 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 1: little John Humphrey. I thought he made some plays to night, 1400 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:13,879 Speaker 1: O Joe. But I mean, what can we say the Giants. 1401 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody really had picked the 1402 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 1: Giants to win this game. But did you go to 1403 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 1: show you, Hey, you take care of the football and 1404 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,599 Speaker 1: it's a division game, Oh Joe, it's a rival game, 1405 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 1: you know, and you throw records out of the window 1406 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:29,679 Speaker 1: where you play in a rival. 1407 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 2: Now, it was definitely definitely, But listen, if you also 1408 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 2: understand if you're a betman, if you're a betman, you 1409 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 2: definitely picking the Eels. 1410 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I wonder what the lion, Well, what was the 1411 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 1: you know what the lion was? O Joe. No, I 1412 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 1: had to be proud to be I'm thinking, at least 1413 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 1: for four and a half. 1414 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 2: Listen, you're going against a rickey quarterback defending Super Bowl champs. 1415 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,759 Speaker 2: Everybody named Mama probably Pook picked the Eagles to actually 1416 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,599 Speaker 2: win this game. But when you have a quarterback like 1417 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,760 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart who has been as exciting as he is, 1418 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 2: who has been unpredictable as he's been since he's gotten 1419 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 2: the starting job. I mean, for those who actually know 1420 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 2: and understand the game of a ball and based on 1421 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,200 Speaker 2: the small samble side of the Jackson dart, that we've 1422 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,800 Speaker 2: been able to see your throw caution to win when 1423 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 2: you come to bedding against the Giants, especially after tonight's performance. 1424 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 2: So going forward, you know, I think things are going 1425 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 2: to change a little bit when it comes to watching 1426 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 2: not only watching the Giants, but putting whatever money you 1427 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 2: want to on them to win a certain game or 1428 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 2: Pacific game. 1429 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,719 Speaker 1: It seems like the line was seven seven and a half, 1430 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,720 Speaker 1: depend on where you was batting, who you was bad, 1431 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:39,560 Speaker 1: You know where you're you know what line you took. 1432 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm confused, O Joe, talk. 1433 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 3: To me all the wait before you say anything. Let 1434 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:44,719 Speaker 3: me get comfortable. 1435 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm confused to what they're doing with AJ Brown. I 1436 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,680 Speaker 1: watched the man run two unders in a row. I'm like, 1437 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 1: is that the only route y'all believe AJ Brown can run? 1438 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 1: He run under, He run a little. They try to 1439 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,920 Speaker 1: run him on like a a little a little six 1440 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,800 Speaker 1: seven yard out. But I don't see no imagination in 1441 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,640 Speaker 1: the routes. I don't see no magic, no no creativity 1442 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 1: in the calls. Man, Look, they running smash concepts. They run, 1443 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,200 Speaker 1: they run, they run the sale, and then they run 1444 01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 1: they run the spot what we call a spot route. 1445 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,040 Speaker 1: Or they'll run, they'll run, they'll run the out and 1446 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,639 Speaker 1: then they'll run the under. Or Davante would try starting 1447 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 1: the slot and he'll run run the fade, or he'll 1448 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 1: run the smash route. I mean here uh and Uh 1449 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 1: Brown would run the I'm like, damn if I'm jayling, 1450 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 1: Her said, Man, I'm tired of run these damn under routes. 1451 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 1: Give me a dig, give me a comeback, give me 1452 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:48,320 Speaker 1: a deep over, give me something. He run a bang. Yeah, 1453 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 1: we ain't got no bangs. 1454 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say they made they made a conscious 1455 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 2: effort to give him the ball. 1456 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 3: They made a college effort to get the ball in 1457 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 3: the in the first half. 1458 01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,439 Speaker 2: And there was some plays that broken down where he 1459 01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 2: was able to scramble out the pocket and get get 1460 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 2: the ball to aj. It wasn't many of them, but 1461 01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 2: he had a He had a better better stat line 1462 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 2: this week. 1463 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 1: You know this game Sega best most yards he's had. 1464 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 1: You know, he had that one hundred yard game against 1465 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 1: the Rams where they were down about a lot of 1466 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 1: the half and then they came out made a conscious 1467 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 1: effort like we got to throw the ball because we 1468 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 1: can't run ourselves back in the ball game, and it 1469 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 1: was like okay. Aj So he had six for eighty, 1470 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard had six, nine for one ten. Smidy would 1471 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 1: have been over one hundred had Jalen out overthrow and 1472 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 1: me put a little bit too much gas up on it. Uh, 1473 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 1: DeVante red a really good route, had him I mean 1474 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 1: he could have walked backwards and gotten too the end 1475 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,080 Speaker 1: zone because it looked like if defender had fallen down 1476 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 1: on Joe. Yeah, when you when when you look at 1477 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 1: the Eagles, what's going on? Clearly clearly that meeting didn't help. Yeah. 1478 01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what they discussed. I don't care to know. 1479 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 1: Thirty four to seventeen. It's been a while since the 1480 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,479 Speaker 1: Eagles lost the game by that. And this game wasn't. 1481 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: This game wasn't. I mean, ough, this thing got on 1482 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,639 Speaker 1: the head quick. It did. 1483 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 2: It did, and I would think some obviously, I think 1484 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 2: we'll start up front with some of the pieces to 1485 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 2: that offensive line being missing small holes that you that 1486 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:18,760 Speaker 2: you try to cover up, you know, weak links that 1487 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 2: you tried to cover up, but you just can't. There's 1488 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:25,400 Speaker 2: a reason why Sakuon Barkley isn't being as successful in 1489 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 2: the running game as he was last year because he. 1490 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,400 Speaker 1: Wasn't O Joe. You you knew they were Ojo. You 1491 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: thought they were gonna let that man come back and 1492 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,240 Speaker 1: rush for another two thousand. 1493 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 2: Hey, you do understand the Eagles do have the best 1494 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 2: offensive line in the league. 1495 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 1: Yes, but concerted effort. What did I tell you? If 1496 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna beat me, you're gonna beat me with Jayla 1497 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 1: Hurst throwing the football. Oh yeah, because I like my 1498 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 1: chances better beating you with him throwing the football than 1499 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 1: sa Kwan Barkley running for one hundred and twenty five 1500 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,880 Speaker 1: a game. Right, It's really that simple, And that's not 1501 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,679 Speaker 1: a knock. I'm not gonna let but I'm not gonna 1502 01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,759 Speaker 1: let you have a two way goer it now, Squan's running. 1503 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 1: Now you play action and throw the ball over the 1504 01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,639 Speaker 1: top of my head. Nah, nah nah. If he's gonna 1505 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,800 Speaker 1: throw the ball with pinport accuracy, and guess what I'm 1506 01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna do, O Joe, I'm gonna leave I'm not gonna 1507 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 1: bring I'm not gonna drop eight in the box. I'm 1508 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:14,960 Speaker 1: not gonna throw one on one. I'm gonna make you 1509 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,480 Speaker 1: throw through zones. I'm gonna make you throw the coverage. 1510 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,720 Speaker 1: Now you do that consistently, Okay, I tip my hat 1511 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 1: to you. 1512 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:21,760 Speaker 3: I can live with that. 1513 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 1: But I am not going to let Saquan do what 1514 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 1: he did last year and then be at your mercy. Now, 1515 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 1: you throw when you want to, You run when you 1516 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,720 Speaker 1: want to. You got me begging, man, throw the ball, man, 1517 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 1: run the ball. Nah, Hell nah, you're gonna beg for 1518 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:45,479 Speaker 1: something different. Look, it's early in the season, but clearly 1519 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 1: something is something that is a miss with the Eagles. 1520 01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,719 Speaker 1: It's hard to pick right up where you left off, 1521 01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:00,080 Speaker 1: Ojo and someone that has been in that situation. You 1522 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 1: have to you have to really, you have to really 1523 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 1: turn your mind off to like, man, we won the 1524 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,559 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yeah you did that last year. You think 1525 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,240 Speaker 1: these team are gonna roll over just because you won 1526 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,679 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? You're their super Bowl this year? Oh yeah, 1527 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 1: the teams that didn't win the Super Bowl, guess what 1528 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 1: when they see your ass on the schedule, Now that 1529 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 1: gives us you know what, Brian Dabas said, that's the 1530 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,400 Speaker 1: defending super Bowl champs, and we just hung thirty four 1531 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,840 Speaker 1: on them. You see, when we play, we can beat 1532 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 1: anybody in this league. That's what they're saying because that's 1533 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,920 Speaker 1: the Eagles. That's the defending super Bowl champ. So now 1534 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:39,760 Speaker 1: teams based there, they based how good they are or 1535 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:40,760 Speaker 1: whether not they beat them. 1536 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:42,760 Speaker 3: And now you see why. 1537 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 2: Now this gives you a better reason why why it 1538 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,840 Speaker 2: hurts when they ask them about the Super Bowl and 1539 01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 2: how it feels in the champs. Why he throws it 1540 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,080 Speaker 2: out the door that was last year absolutely because he 1541 01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 2: understood how difficult it would be not only repeat, but 1542 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,400 Speaker 2: they have the same success going into this same way. 1543 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,040 Speaker 3: Now we're seeing the. 1544 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 2: Strokes that they are having being at there, not at 1545 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 2: full strength, especially at the offensive line. Some of the 1546 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 2: defensive pieces are a little different than they were last year, 1547 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 2: and it's a different new offensive coordinator he had. 1548 01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:19,840 Speaker 3: Things have to evolve offensively. 1549 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,200 Speaker 2: You know, you can't be too predictable last year because 1550 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 2: the running game was so efficient. 1551 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 3: You could damn there do what you want to do exactly, 1552 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 3: and you can throw it when you want to. You 1553 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,479 Speaker 3: got to pick your poison on what you want to do. 1554 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 2: Now things are a little different, and now you're going 1555 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 2: to get to see the better part of the Eagles. 1556 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 1: Then they got to dig down, don't yo, We got 1557 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:41,240 Speaker 1: to dig. 1558 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they could do one of two things. You can 1559 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,320 Speaker 2: come together and fix it or things are going to 1560 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 2: continue to splinter. 1561 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're and we're not going to make no excuses. 1562 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 1: Oh the Eagles beat themselves. It looked like to me 1563 01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,919 Speaker 1: the Giants had thirty four and the Eagles had seventeen. 1564 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,760 Speaker 1: They didn't say Eagles one had thirty four and the 1565 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,880 Speaker 1: Eagles two had seventeen. Right, ain't no beat yourself because 1566 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,760 Speaker 1: see that's the excuses you made last week. That had 1567 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 1: man that should have called passing appearance. That was a 1568 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 1: passing affearens you see what happens on Joe if you 1569 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 1: if you lose by a little, I can go back 1570 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 1: and point the thaid, well if we had done this, 1571 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,240 Speaker 1: we had done that. But see when I beat hell 1572 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,879 Speaker 1: at you, what you're gonna say? So what passing affairs 1573 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 1: that would have made up seventeen points? What a holding call? Man? 1574 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,639 Speaker 1: They help they was holding So what holding call would 1575 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 1: have made up seventeen points? What did I miss? What 1576 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,040 Speaker 1: off signs? What penoty that they didn't call that would 1577 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:37,120 Speaker 1: have made up for seventeen points. Oh, I feel bad 1578 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,400 Speaker 1: for my guy Gilly. 1579 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:42,639 Speaker 3: He's gonna be all right.