WEBVTT - Townhouse Incident 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.000 Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.800 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:08.840 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.240 These are our stories. Dune Done. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:32.120 Hello and welcome to That's Messed Up n SVU podcast. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:36.519 I'm your host Kara Klank and I'm Lisa Tragger. We 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.839 talk SVU true crime up top. We do catch up. 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.960 We have not seen each other in weeks. You know, 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.720 I moved to New York and you went to an island. 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.479 Baby, you went to Saint Thomas. I want to hear 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:50.320 all about it. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:52.519 Well, I flew to Saint Thomas and I went to 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.880 Saint John And if you can believe it, a listener 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:56.840 even hit me up and was like, I live on 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.240 Saint Thomas. Let me take you on my boat like 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.520 you guys are, and it's really amazing cool. Unfortunately, it 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.840 was a weekend invitation and we were leaving by the weekend, 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.560 but they gave me some restaurant recks, one place that 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.160 we had actually just eaten at, so but yeah, I 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.319 went with my friend and another friend was there. We 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.320 overlapped for like a day and a half and then 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:18.600 it was just me and my friend the rest of 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.920 the time, and we had a blast. 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:21.520 It was great. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.840 It was like it was so beautiful. It was just 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.200 like gorgeous, and I just was relaxed. I felt really relaxed. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:29.760 Like I came back and I was like being so 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.559 much more patient with my kids. I was like, it's okay, 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.800 what's going on? Like, I just like really needed a 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:36.399 little break. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.520 Yeah, well, you flew out on the Super Bowl. Did 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.160 you watch it on your flight? Was that like the 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:41.920 main thing you did? 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.679 No? No, because my flight was at midnight. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:45.160 WHOA. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.040 So I actually went to a Super Bowl party with 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.480 my kids, stayed through halftime, went home right after, and 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.680 then like, you know, I don't really care that much. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.560 So I was kind of checking the score, but I 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.160 didn't really care. And then I turned on my TV 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.760 at the last minute and I go, oh, oh, they're tied. 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.640 They're in overtime. This is crazy. And then I was 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.600 seeing am I incorrect that San Francisco was ahead a 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:07.720 little bit in the overtime? 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.359 Well, no overtime, it's tied. That's why it goes into 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.120 the overtime. Then they got a field goal for three. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.160 And the thing is the overtime rules in playoffs are 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.920 different than the regular season. This is like one of 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.520 the biggest kind of like mess ups in Super Bowl history, 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.080 is what I'm getting from my explore page. Really yeah, 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:31.840 because so like in normal and if I'm saying anything wrong, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.799 hit us up. But in normal season overtime it's whoever 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.680 scores first and then the game is over. So it's 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.600 like sudden death no matter who has possession, who scores 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.840 is it? That's it here the other team gets an 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.720 opportunity at the ball and it's like just a timed thing. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.680 And Mahomes is known as one of the greatest quarterbacks 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.760 to like ever do it, so it's stupid for them 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.240 to have taken possession first. So basically, instead of not 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.560 doing it and they know how to score, they let 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.680 Mahomes kind of have the final the final little bit 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.280 to get in, which is kind of wild. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:08.840 But then in the. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.519 Interviews afterwards, Travis said that they were talking about these 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.000 rules for weeks leading up to the Super Bowl. They 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.239 had specific statticians come in Jesus analytics guys, and they 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.760 were over it over and over, and then San Francisco 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.000 the dudes didn't even know about it. There's some micd 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.160 up guy that goes, wait, but they get possession after fuck, 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.840 And even the referees were like there there was hidden 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.720 mics on them and they go, damn, you don't want 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:35.720 to give Mahomes the ball? 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.560 He goes, yeah, that was weird, Like it was weird. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.920 So yeah, it was like they were up three, so 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.720 they couldn't score the touchdown, so it's just the field goal. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.960 So yeah, the Chiefs just needed a touchdown. 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:49.760 Yeah, Like all I remember seeing was like being like, fuck, 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:51.520 it looks like San Francisco's gonna win. And I had 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:53.640 it on mute and then suddenly I saw the Chiefs 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:55.400 going wild on my screen and I was like what 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.640 the fuck? So I rewound it cause I you know, 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.160 one of the glories of still paying for cable is 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.080 that I can just rewind it. So I like rewound 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.400 it and was like fuck, and I watch the last 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.560 few minutes and like, I'm not a sports person, I 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.920 don't understand half of what you just said, but it 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.920 is really exciting when a game is like that close, 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:12.360 and like it's so fun. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.320 That's what I always say. It's fourth quarter. 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.760 Fourth quarter basketball is the best, like anything can happen, 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.679 and I didn't realize football is similar. But fourth quarter 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.800 sports are like baseball's just a little chiller. But yeah, 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.760 ninth like anything close. Like that's the beauty of sports, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.360 is anything can happen. Yeah, you know, that's the whole thing. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.000 You never give up. You gotta keep pushing because you 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.360 truly never know. And that's what the heart of a 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:36.040 champion is. 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:37.279 Yes, yes, yeah. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.400 If you want to get to what was really turning 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.600 me on about the Super Bowl, the fucking halftime show 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.279 really killed it for me. Like I love the halftime show. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.880 I am not here for a single second of Usher, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.520 hate of Who's Usher or any of this bullshit. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.320 I thought he turned it out. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.400 He gave us Vegas, he gave us showmanship, he gave 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:55.640 us Ludacris, he gave. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:59.800 Us roller skates. Yes, I was screaming when Luda came out. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.719 Gave us homecoming. He gave us homecoming. I was like, 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.320 Lona Chris do my podcast. 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.120 Well, I got very lucky. I went to a gathering 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.080 as well at the Cellar. They actually closed down the 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.760 restaurant for us to watch the Super Bowl. Cool and 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:18.800 really cool like field tablecloths, you know, like and like 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.680 plates that look like the shape of a hot a football, 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.559 you know what I mean, Like, I just I really 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:23.960 love that. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:25.800 Yeah. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.400 And then at one point I did order of aucas 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.200 soda and I go in the football cup please, And 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.719 then I got a normal cup and I go okay. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.640 So then the next time I go a double, so 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:35.640 it's in the football cup. 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:36.080 She goes, I know. 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.040 I felt so bad, and I'm like, no, no, it's actually okay. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.120 I'm being silly, but you better get me a football cup. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.480 You're like, I'm trying to express my religion right now. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:44.960 Could you please put it in the football cup? 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:46.320 Yeah. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.040 But I got to watch the halftime show with black 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.120 people from Atlanta. 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.200 Oh wow, So I had two shows to look at. 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.240 I had the show in front of me and on 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.400 the screen and it was a projector screen. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.760 So it was really like exciting. It was really fine. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:02.599 No, and I got to watch it in like a 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.560 room with a bunch of our friends that you know, 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.240 and like we were just having a time. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:07.120 It was really great. 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.599 And my kids were watching, like Rosie was sitting on 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.600 a friend's lap and then Oscar was on my lap 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.920 and they were really paying attention. They were wrapped like 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.479 put Rosie at the party kept booing usher, but not 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.960 because she didn't like it. She just was trying to 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.280 get attention so she she could see everybody was having 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:23.839 a good time. 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.560 And she kept going boo just to see what people 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:27.000 would do. 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.240 And I was like, wow, stop it right now, Like 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:31.640 I really gave it to her. 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:36.200 Being a contrarian is genetic. I see, it is absolutely genetic. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.359 She is ridiculous. No, but also you missed saying the 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.520 roller skates. I mean yeah, to have a full roller 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:48.599 skating situation, a glitter muscletop, we got a shirtless moment. 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:49.520 He knew what we needed. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.600 We had not only Ludacris, Ludacris with the full frow. Yeah, 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.560 we had the fro full out Like that was incredible. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.280 I mean, no one really cared about Jermaine de Prix. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:57.880 I do feel bad. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.280 I did see him an adulta lounge, but his if 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.840 it was wild. He was getting a lot of little 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:07.600 Lord Fauntleroy confidence. Yeah. But also Lalicia Keys was a 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.160 cool thing. Like it was incredible. I don't know, I 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:10.920 think it was cool. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.200 How like he even did some of his slower jams 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.400 and made them work like at a sporting event, like 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:16.239 I thought it was great. 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.480 Any One that had anything negative to say that is 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:23.960 the product of the Internet. Yeah, I am actually just discussed. 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:25.440 I know we talk about it time and time again, 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.000 but like the lack of nuance on the internet is 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.640 hitting me like a ton of bricks lately, where it's 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.880 just like you guys are sick. 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:37.320 You can't actually be like this dnse about life, right, 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:38.040 I know. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.800 Yeah, it's it's wild. Like I asked my kid how 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.880 they want their cheese? How dare you give kids choice? 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.720 As you're a jebba, and it's like you, what is happening? 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:50.000 What is happening? 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.800 No, it's like everything with the whole country right now 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.520 is like let people live, let people do what they want. 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:57.640 Like I don't know the fact that everyone feels like 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.920 they have to weigh in or legislate or do anything. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:01.560 And mean and mean. 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.320 A woman was just like a thing popped up in 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.560 my thing where she and I know everyone knows what 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.320 it meant, even though I didn't use the words, but 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.080 she just sang like a kind of silly song. But 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.800 her husband died and the song was about like, don't 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.360 shovel snow if you're over forty five, and then of 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.480 course the comments are like, who cares if you're a widow, 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.680 you dumb bitch, stop projecting. My parents are healthy, we're 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.280 gonna shovel. Maybe if you kept him better shape, this 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.360 wouldn't be a problem. And then all these full on 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.080 cardiologists and professionals are like, there's nothing to do with 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.200 be in shape. The cold air constricts I guess the 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.040 blood and the over the head motion is also something 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.079 with the heart, and it's not gonna happen to everyone. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.120 Same as like with cigarettes, not everyone's gonna die of cancer, 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:45.840 but it's a warning. 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.280 Same with seatbelts, you know, like all of these things. 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.280 So all the cardiology and then everyone was just like 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:56.280 just being sh my. My father's seventy in shovels and 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.680 it's like cool and hopefully he doesn't die. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.360 But like, I don't get why. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.480 People think they know everything, they know the right thing. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.080 It's just like also not compassion that her husband did die, 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.400 and like maybe he didn't have to shovel. Yeah, And 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:12.959 then people were like, I'm in Buffalo, what are you 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.720 to do? We're poor, we can't shovel, And it's like, 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.520 I'm sure there's a fourteen year old that would do 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.439 I don't know. It's just like, but how did this devolve? 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.600 It was just like I didn't know about that. Next 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.880 time my dad or someone tries to shovel, I'm gonna 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:26.560 go I would prefer you not do that. 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:27.640 I love you to live. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.600 I heard the cold might do something with your horror 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.160 because my dad, you know, is out there. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:33.920 Yeah, I know your dad is out there. 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.800 So I mean, sorry for that stupid thing. Obviously, we 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.760 have more to talk about the Super Bowl. I mean 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.560 it took over a week. For a week, I don't 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.320 think I watched anything but after party super Bowl footage. 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.960 Like I didn't watch Bravo. I have not caught up 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.719 on SVU. I did watch Traders and Drag Race made 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.640 time for that of course. Yeah, but like I have 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:59.480 watched every grainy cell phone interaction angle from that party, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.120 and I I am I'm standing their love. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.360 If anyone was confused, yeah no, yeah, that's clear. That 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:06.080 is clear. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.719 Oh wait, I forgot to tell you. Also, I did 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.840 ride in the back of a cop car on Saint John. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.440 So that was a very important, uh moment for me 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.120 for what well this fucking I mean, you got to you. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.800 It's like the trade in of going somewhere beautiful but 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.480 also having to be like on island time. You know, 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.600 that's like not my vibe. I'm too high strung for that. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.199 Like I'm always like, what's taking so long? What's happening? 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.520 Like we ordered a drink at this place, they just 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.960 like forgot and then twenty minutes later we were like hi, 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:35.400 and they were like, what's up. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.000 Like, and I was just like, what's happening. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:38.559 I mean, I didn't get mad, you know, I'm trying, 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.880 just trying to be chillin island Cara, but it's hard. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.360 But anyway, we go out to dinner and afterwards we 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.560 go have a drink and I didn't realize, like on 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:51.400 a Tuesday, you have to take these big van taxis everywhere, 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.840 and on a Tuesday night they're just like not running anymore. 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.080 At eleven o'clock, it wasn't even like it was midnight. 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.680 It was eleven o'clock. We're wering around the whole area 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:03.600 looking for this a van taxi. 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:04.240 There's nothing. 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.680 We stop into a bar buy another drink that we 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.200 don't even want, just so we can ask the bartender 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.640 to call us one. He calls his guy. He's like, 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.800 my guy's not answering. We're like, what's gonna happen? Like, 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.079 how are we gonna get home? Because you can't even 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.720 call anybody. And then we went up to these cops 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.160 and we were like, do you know where we can 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.480 get a cab? And they were like no, sorry, sounds 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.920 like bad luck. And we were like okay. And then 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:27.600 my friend that was with us was just like hung 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.679 out for a little bit longer and was just kind 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.720 of like, I walked a few steps away and then 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.440 she goes, Okay, guys, he's gonna take us, and I 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.160 guess she was like my plan was just to stay 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.440 there until they took us somewhere, you know, because it 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:39.920 was a it's a six minute drive. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.040 It's just you can't walk it. It's like up a mountain. 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.360 So these cops took my friend went in the front seat, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.280 and then me and you know Rachel, we were in 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.800 the back. No doors, I mean, no windows that can 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.360 be rolled down, no handlebars. It was claustrophobic and hot, 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.200 and it was like a six minute drive, Like I 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:56.120 did not enjoy it. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.720 Is it a hard shell seat or a soft seat? No, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:00.439 it wasn't hard shell it was like soft. 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:04.120 I was like a small suv but like full gating everywhere, 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:05.880 and like you can't even like see out a window. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.200 Like all these windows were stablers going over to like 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:09.880 talk to a kid in the back of a cop 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.840 car and rolling down the window. It's like they're no, 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.840 this had git all over it. So anyway, I just 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.440 thought that was a fun little tidbit. What else, I 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.760 feel like I have ninety thousand things to tell you. 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.280 Yeah, you really cut me off from my tailor's corner. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.320 Well, I'm sorry, I guess I'm I just you know 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:26.880 how last week or two weeks so, I was like 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:28.680 kind of annoyed where I was like, you don't have 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.320 to stand during Sciss's speech. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:30.960 I'm annoyed. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.439 And then I saw a different angle of that video 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.480 and you see her turn to a friend going, oh 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.240 my god, I got a shout out, and I was like, oh, 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.719 that's cute, you know what I mean, Like anytime I'm 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:40.600 a little annoyed, I'm not. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.079 So I did want to say. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.240 That, well, what did you think of the everybody was 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.559 talking about how like you endanger girl tailor because of 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.880 how Travis was screaming at his coach on the side, 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.400 like he's got a temper, you know, And I was like, well, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:53.040 he's an alfob. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.440 Oh no, you do not do that to a coach, 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.000 especially not Andy Reid. That is bad sportsmanship, that is 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.440 not good behavior. But I listened to the podcast and 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.480 it's like, you know, you know, Jason called him out, 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.400 and he's like he knows he needed to handle it better. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.880 But it's also like it's none, no one knows. He goes, 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.839 I wasn't yelling at Andy. I was being like, fuck, 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:13.680 we fumbled, like I want to get back in. Like 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.080 he wasn't yelling at the coach. He's like, we have 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.000 the best coach. My coach didn't do anything wrong. He's like, 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:20.720 I was just flipping out and wanted to be in 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.360 the game. But like, guy shouldn't have talked to him. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.040 He goes, and I feel bad. I knocked him over. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.920 I didn't realize he was gonna like fall off balance. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.960 He's like, I wasn't like charging. I didn't even know 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:31.920 he knocked him over. I didn't know that part. He 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.079 didn knock him over, he just went off balance. He 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.199 was just kind of shocked. But then Andy goes, yeah, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.120 I love Travis. I know where he's at. You know, 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.600 that's why I love him. His competitive you know, spirit 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.520 and you know and all of that and no one. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.520 That's another nuanced thing too, Like if we just see 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.800 a photo of him looking fucking furious and in his 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.240 coach's face. But I didn't really I thought he was 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.880 yelling at him. I didn't actually yelling about the game. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.720 Yeah, during the game, I was like, ooh, that is 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:01.240 not good. I'm not into that. Yeah, and then Andy 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.800 goes he keeps me young. These boys keep me young. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.120 And they won. If they lost, it would have obviously 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:07.920 looked different. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:08.800 But they won. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.120 And then it got worse from there because he got 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.280 blackout drunk at the Kansas City parade. He tried to 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:18.080 sing Garth Brooks out of his mind. But then with 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.760 the shooting, that was awful. That is like such an 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:23.960 awful thing. I don't want to get deep into it. 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:25.760 There's nothing more to say. We live in a fucked 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.680 up place and that's so fucked but that happened, that 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.240 lives are lost, and that, you know, I hope we 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.200 can enjoy these parades in the future. It's just like 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.400 it's really upsetting. But then people were mad that the 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.600 players went out to dinner, and it's like they are 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.040 also traumatized, like this happened at their parade. 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:40.360 You know. 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.640 It's like like when that thing happened in Ariana Grande's 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.680 concert that fucks you up. Like they people were like, 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.160 how dare you go to dinner, and it's like they 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:52.200 also were in a parade where there was people getting shot, 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.480 Like I don't know. Yeah, it's the internet thing, but 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.880 that I wish I didn't even bring up the shooting. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.560 But I'm just saying he was more itchy their blackout 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.680 drunk could not stand trying to sing Garth Brooks on 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:05.240 the stage. 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.920 Yeah, ye see, it was crazy. But these guys work 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:09.520 so hard. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.560 I mean you're pretty much sober and working hard for 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:13.920 eight months. 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:15.440 Like even the game. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:16.920 That you watched, not knowing much, you could tell that 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:20.680 was a grueling game. Yeah, or not at all. No, 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.520 it looked hard. I mean, I don't know what always 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:23.920 looks fucking hard. I don't know how to play any 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.120 of these games. You played football, yeah, but not like 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.960 the speed and the hard Like these guys just get 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.560 so knocked around. But I had a great time in 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:37.200 the Super Bowl. I'm also just loving New York. I mean, good, good, 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.520 It has been really fun, but I have not I've 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.000 maybe unpacked three boxes, like I am living amongst full boxes. 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.440 Wait when did everything get there? Did it get there 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:46.200 before you left? 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:47.000 Yeah? 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.080 Got there on the thirteenth. Okay, I would say. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.040 The foreman in the New York office is not as 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.480 friendly and charming as our La counterheart. So then I 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.600 left town for two days. Bless everyone that I got 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.400 to see in Phoenix. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.480 I want to know about the all nude review or 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:07.040 not nude but you know what I mean, the mail 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:08.480 strip show or whatever it was. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.160 What was it? 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.720 It was mail review, but I mean one guy did 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.040 flop his dick up and down like in his little 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:20.760 you know, underwear. Yeah, but not full nude. At first, 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.960 it was like what, oh god, what is going on? 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.800 But then once I started drinking tequila and getting into 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.960 it and just walking around the tables with a microphone 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.480 instead of trying to like interact on stage, it was 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:31.360 the best. 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:32.280 The guys were the best. 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.200 The guys said that they made the most money they've 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.600 ever made on a weeknight because of me, because they 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.640 were like, if there's a way that you can like 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.640 remind people to tip and then they were like, wow, 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.240 you were really blunt with that, because all I just 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.680 said was like, who needs singles? 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.120 Give them more money, go to an ATM, you dumb bitches. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.160 I got titched out. I got seventy dollars given to 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.680 me by someone. And you didn't have to take off 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.280 a stitch. No. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.000 They tried to put a pretzel bread in my mouth. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.080 I'm like, I'm not choking down a pretzel bird. You 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.359 guys are sick. But they were also selling fifteen dollars 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.400 cans of whipped cream and these guys were getting lit. 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.000 Oh. But also I was like, uh, what are these 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:12.720 guys gonna be? 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.359 Like? I kind of had like porn star energy in 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.879 my brain, and those guys like, I don't know, I 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:22.439 don't know, but they were mostly gay. Yeah, four another 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.680 five were gay. So I just felt right at home, 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:29.080 just friendly, friendly faces and voices, and I did enjoy that. 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.160 And then one guy was straight who I think got 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:36.359 maybe seventeen numbers, like he black Diamond, Black Diamond was 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.920 up and around and he was getting it. When you're 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.280 the one straight, you're gonna Yeah. 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:46.160 I've only ever been to Olympic gardens in Vegas for 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.760 a bachelorette party, and I think I've told you about 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:49.080 it before. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:50.480 It was a little bit too intense for me. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.520 It was a lot of dry humping, so I don't know, 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.160 I haven't seen a lot of I would honestly rather 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.240 watch women strip or do sexy dancing than men, even 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:00.679 though I am straight, so. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.480 A hundred percent these guys would walk around, they would 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.359 flip the women over. I mean, talented talents of guys. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.159 And then the next day it was like stand up 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.240 people came. It was it was a thrill. It was 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.800 a thrill. I don't know, amazing. Everything's been fun. But 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.280 then I came back and like the thirteenth, I unpacked 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.040 some boxes. But since i've been back, it's like it's 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.840 truly go, go go. I'm getting ten thousand steps without 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.239 even trying or thinking about it. 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:24.760 I love it. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.959 I have too many plans, too many things, too many spots. 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.480 I'm doing five spots a night on the weekends. It's 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:35.399 just like, oh yeah, wild, that's great. It is really great, 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.040 except I need to unpack a box now. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.160 But my friend, you know, Juliet, will come over and. 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.040 Yeah, and I will get You just have to be 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:44.640 in the mindset to like do it all. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.439 No, I think it's the opposite. I think it's no. No, 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:48.800 I don't do it all at once. 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:50.560 I mean you got to be in the mindset to 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.040 like plan it out, like what's every day? Where's everything 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.000 goingna go? What's it gonna look like? Like sort of 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.400 you know, sit down and really do a plan. 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:01.760 Yeah, but I need to organize a I just whatever, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:02.680 it doesn't matter. 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:03.600 I'm like thrilled. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.640 And I had been having so much trouble with my locks, 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.399 like I'm just really bad at keys and locks, and 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.040 like sometimes it would take me ten minutes to just 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.119 get into the doors, like I just could not figure 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.879 it out. And then thank goodness, I met a girl 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.280 in the doorway while I was stuck, and I go, girl, 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.520 I keep getting stuck in here, like, can you give 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.000 me a clue? Yeah, And she gave me the tidbit 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.800 I needed of my dreams and now, oh, I'm getting 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:29.400 in and out of this apartment. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.480 Smooth, amazing. She unlocked the code literally for you, all right, 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:33.040 that's great. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.679 Yes, And I live next to an h Mart. You 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.440 know how, I'm obsessed with Korean convenience store tiktoks. 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:40.679 No, I didn't know that, but cool. 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.560 Oh yeah, So it's like women going to convenience stores 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.520 and then they like buy little cute lunches and like 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.199 drinks and then they put it in ice whatever. I 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.800 live next to an Asian food store called h Mart, 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.360 so I straight up get to buy those triangle rice 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:57.400 things with like tuna inside and seaweed, and I got. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:02.680 I had a honeydew melon drink. I had banana flavored chips. 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.919 It's right near me, Like, I'm so excited, yay. 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:07.879 I can't wait to come and get a full tour, 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.600 full tour of the h Mark. Yeah, baby, and your 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:12.399 whole hood. You got to take me to. I'm sure 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.600 everything's different. I used to be in that neighborhood every 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.160 single week multiple times. I'm sure everything's changed. I don't 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.600 think so, you know, no like businesses wise, like there's 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:21.920 not new places. 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:22.760 Mermaidens closed. 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:24.679 I mean, I'm sure, but I don't think it's like 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:25.960 that drastically different. 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.639 You know, is anything in the old cabin or is 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:30.040 it still just the shell of cabin. 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.119 I don't really remember the exact address of cabin, so 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:33.639 I don't know. 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.359 It's like on fifth and second or fourth, Okay, one 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:36.680 of those. 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:38.920 It's right down there. But you're also on the road. 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:42.199 Yes, thank you for mentioning that, Cara. So, in a 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.640 wild turn of events, i am heading into my alma mater. 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.480 I'm doing a free show. The link should be up. 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.000 People kept messaging me, but it's fucking free. Just show up. 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.760 It's at Iowa State. I'm so fucking excited to be there, 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.320 so that'll be all what day on February twenty ninth, 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:57.879 leap year, so it's extra special. 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:01.959 February twenty ninth, Oh my god, it's extra special. 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.480 And Sydney Washington will be opening for me, so that'll 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.880 be really fun. And then March fourteenth through sixteenth, I'm 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.760 at the Philadelphia Punchline. March twenty second through the twenty third, 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:16.160 I'm in Rochester, New York. All right, the March twenty seventh, Nashville, 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:19.200 March twenty eighth through the thirtieth, Chicago, and then April 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:24.040 we got like you know, Washington State, Baltimore, Austin, New Orleans, Kansas. 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:24.399 Great. 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.280 Oh my New Orleans is actually getting moved to June. 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.840 So okay, well you can go to That's messed up 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.640 live dot com and go down to the Lisa's website link, 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:34.800 and that takes you to like all the legit ticket 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.879 links that are on Lisa's thing, So go see her 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:38.560 do stand up. 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:40.560 And we will let you know when we're back on 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:40.960 the road. 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.720 In the meantime, if you want a little bit of 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:46.760 extra of us, go get some of our merch on 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.639 the merch store. That's also what that that's messed up 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.160 live dot com website. 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:51.680 You can go to our shop. 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.760 Link, and we added a couple of items that we 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.760 were selling exclusively on tour. We sort of put the 0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.560 rest of them up on the website. So now you 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.480 can get fanny pack, you can get a tour sticker, 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.600 you can get a little enamel pin, you can get 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.640 a sticker sheet. There's all kinds of stuff new that's 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:11.200 really like sort of more affordable, low price stuff that's 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:13.080 up on our exactly right store. 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:13.360 Oh. 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.639 Also, I am running into our listeners all over New 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:20.000 York City. I am, and the person I ran into 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.520 at soul Cycle, I was high out of my mind, 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.720 So sorry if I wasn't as active, but that is 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:27.680 what I need to push myself through the day. 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:29.000 But it was great. 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:31.520 Yeah, I'm running into a lot of our listeners all over. 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:32.200 Yeah. 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:34.520 Some came to the show and I had some SUW 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.000 friendship bracelets that I got to share with someone. 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:42.040 Yeah. Yeah, so it's been really exciting. You guys are 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:42.560 the best. 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:46.440 And yeah, I posted a photo of Scary Island because 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.439 I forgot that I was on. I was literally on 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.440 the beach from Scary Island, like I was on the 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:54.120 Johann Face Johann Face beach, and I completely forgot Saint 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:55.560 John is where they went. I think I thought they 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:57.840 were in Saint Bart's or something. And then a listener 0:22:58.000 --> 0:22:59.600 was like, I know exactly where you are. 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:00.920 I was, I can't believe we have listeners in the 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:03.280 Virgin Islands. It's really wild. You guys are the best. 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.760 Keep stalking Lisa all over New York and me all 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.600 over LA, but just at Target because that's the only 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:10.560 time I ever see any of you. And if you 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:14.920 have a moment, follow us on Instagram where that's messed 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.200 up pod there, follow us on I mean, don't follow 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:17.679 us on X. 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:18.840 I want to get rid of that anyway. 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:20.679 If you feel strongly about us staying on X, let 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:22.360 me know, but I want to get off and then 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:24.480 rate us, review us wherever. 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.920 You do it, Get off, Get off. 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:28.480 I know I want to just get off because a 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.000 few people interact with us there and they're nice, So 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:32.919 I'm like, why, you know, why don't I just But 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:34.920 it's like, come over and see us on Instagram. We're 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:37.880 with a different cycle millionaire over the bazillionaire over there. 0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:40.480 But yeah, give us a review on Spotify or Apple 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:40.920 if you can. 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:41.719 We love it. 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:45.440 They're all evil and I think, you know, Mark Zuckerberger, 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:47.239 should we tried for war crimes? That is one of 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:50.640 my you know opinions. Yeah, the guillotine where he gets hung. 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.199 We heard, yeah, yeah, that is a constant for me. 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.920 But everyone thinks he's a dork. You know, everyone's like boo. 0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.680 That's the thing with Elon Musk. There's people who think 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:01.240 he's cool. It's so said. 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.040 The people that think he's cool are the saddest. That's 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.160 really sad. That's really fucking sad. 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.000 That's why he's like more data. It's just like, it's 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.320 really crazy. It was actually annoyed. A fucking clip of 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:13.359 Joe Rogan showed up in my shit that bothered me 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.080 where he was just like, California's just got too liberal. 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:16.800 It's just too liberal. 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:18.320 You know, I'm more in the middle now, I'm more 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.920 in the middle. It's like, living in an anti abortion 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:24.040 state is not middle. You are waging war on women 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.680 like you are not middle. Like, I don't understand how 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:31.199 you can think being in an anti abortion state is 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:32.840 in the middle of anything. 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:34.280 They don't mean for those of you that live in 0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:36.920 anti abortion states, we're talking about a bazillionaire who could 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:37.800 live wherever he wants. 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.840 I just like, don't know how that's middle, Like, it 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:44.080 just doesn't make sense, like what people think it like 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.080 moderate is We've talked about that. It's like, no, no, no, no, 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.760 you guys are actually in the fringe of society. And 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.720 I just saw a thing. I did not fact check it, 0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.800 so please do not come for me. But it was 0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:58.240 basically like this dude, his wife or girlfriend got pregnant 0:24:58.280 --> 0:24:59.560 and he didn't want her to be so he was 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.520 poisoned her with some abortion pill right in her water. 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:06.600 Slowly she got suspicious and so she put hidden cameras 0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:10.360 in she saw that she was poisoning. He whatever if 0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.159 she she went to the hot She gave birth to 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.560 a baby ten weeks premature who did have a lot 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:19.000 of birth defects. Right, if she took the abortion pill 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.080 and that was on her own, she would be facing 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.879 life in prison. Yeah, this man who poisoned her and 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:29.680 did this got one hundred and eighty days gross. And 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:34.440 that's the moderate society that these fucking Austin rich people. 0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:37.720 My fucking fitness influencer moved to Austin and had the balls. 0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.040 Did I already talk about this? Would me? I don't 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:41.400 know if you've talked about it here, but you've told 0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:42.120 me about that? Yeah? 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:43.719 On her YouTube because I was like, oh, why are 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:47.639 they moving? So I watched her YouTube podcast episode and 0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.000 basically she was just like, well, we want to have 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.199 a family and it's just more family friendly. I'm like, 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.000 Texas is the least family friendly place you can be, 0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.159 Like what is family friendly to you? Like? 0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.439 What are you fucking talking about? 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.840 No, she doesn't want money to it's taxes, Like he's 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:04.840 like moving to these places for tax purposes? 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:07.520 Do have the balls to say it is family friendly? 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.040 And then she did like a question thing on her 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:10.639 Instagram and I go, how do you you're trying to 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:11.919 get pregnant? 0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:13.560 You talk about how you're actively. 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:14.600 Trying to get pregnant and you are going to a 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.080 place that you can go to prison for having a miscarriage, 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.000 and you're saying that's a family friendly state. 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.280 It's just like it infuriates men. 0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:22.919 She has the money to fly wherever the fuck. She 0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:24.760 needs to get her own medical care, you know, so 0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:25.360 she doesn't care. 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:25.960 Yeah, she goes. 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.359 Yeah, the homeless situation in Venice, I gotta get out 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.359 of here. And it's like, honestly, you could probably solve it. 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.200 You can buy a property and you can like make 0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.560 homes and then have like you can do that. Rich 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:40.160 people complaining about the homeless in la is disgusting. Yeah, 0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:43.159 those Caruso freaks, those Beverly Hills people like. It is like, 0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.640 you guys can actually solve the homelessness if you really 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:46.040 wanted to. 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:50.159 I know, still don't I know it, But listen, what 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:51.760 got a great show for you guys today? 0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:52.000 We do. 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:53.560 We also had so much to catch up on it. 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.440 Now I feel like I'm crazy, but whatever, we'll talk 0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:56.760 about Traders next week. 0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.800 Oh, I'm fully I don't watch it, but we talked 0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.199 to a lot on the trip because Rachel watches it, 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:03.520 so I know a lot of information. 0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:05.760 Now you should just watch it. You would like it. 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:07.320 Oh, I know, I know, I would love it. It's 0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:08.959 just you know, where I gotta find the time. But 0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:10.959 like I got all that I like was asking all 0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:11.560 these questions. 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.680 Are you caught up on drag Race? Oh? Yes, who's 0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:15.439 your favorite? 0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.920 I mean I kind of feel like it's gonna be 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:22.200 between Sephira and maybe Nymphia in the end. 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:23.440 But I like those two. 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.840 Nymphias the Banana right, Yeah, I'm Nymphia all the way 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.600 You're Nymphia and Sephira. 0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.680 Sephira's got like the vibe of like perfection from the beginning. 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.040 And Plain Jane that's my top three. 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.680 Yeah, Plain Jane is good and she is such a bitch, 0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.359 and I'm trying to like get around to like liking 0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:41.080 the bitchiness. 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.399 But sometimes I feel like it's I. 0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.680 Don't know, who are the bitches from past drag Race 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.760 that I like, Mistress. There's bitches like I don't mind Mistress, 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.520 I don't mind Roxy Andrews, even or Bianca was a 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.280 bitch a lot. You know, Like there's just something about 0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.920 planin Jene that seems like so much like more evil. 0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:01.359 Well, she has the history of the season, so she's 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.440 playing a game. I mean she's straight up gotten to 0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.760 Nymphia's I mean, like unless that's editing. I mean Sephia 0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.840 has had to use the potion. Yeah, you know what 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.600 I mean. She is there to play a game and 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.720 fuck around and cause chaos, and that's what she's come 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:13.000 to do. 0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.040 So it's like she's definitely great. She's great for the show. 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.600 You know, Roxy, I don't think realize she was so 0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.600 cunty and I think she feels bad how she treated Jinx, 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:23.920 you know what I mean, But like this bitch came 0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.320 to be a bitch. Yeah, Roxy had trauma, but so 0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.400 does she. I mean, so does playing Ene. Yeah, she's 0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:31.680 my Russian Jew and I'm cheering. 0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.000 For her of course, of course, no I know. And 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.199 she is sexy, like I'm sorry she is. 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.680 Yeah, No, she does great. She she has a great face. 0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.520 I mean I'm a little bit sick of the titty 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:42.760 bibs to be honest me too. 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.600 I don't like fake titties. I really like you. Oh 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.120 I like you. I really like you. She's good. 0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:51.120 So maybe I want a top four. Yeah, we'll see 0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:52.719 how those go. But those are the faves. 0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.520 But I mean Magami going home this week, I was like, 0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.320 this should have been a while ago, Like, I feel 0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.160 like mcgommy's not been bringing it the whole time. 0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.760 Who called me e or that was? That was perfect? 0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:04.680 Whoever called her? 0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.120 I knew Magami was gonna go home because they kept 0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:11.440 they kept showing her talking so much shit in the confessionals. 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.360 It's like I love watching people struggle, and it's like, bitch, 0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:14.080 you're going home. 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.280 Well, and she was like, this is an emotional song 0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.160 and I gotta sell it, and then completely misread the 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:24.120 emotions of the song Flowers. The whole point of Flowers 0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.800 by Miley Cyrus is like I can get flowers. I 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.800 am free, I don't need no man. I am out, 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.560 I'm dancing. My life is amazing. Yeah, I'm in Malibu. 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.640 It's like joy than she played it like oh. 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:40.280 Like she looked pain. 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.760 She played it like a woman on a balcony, like 0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:44.880 about to jump, like she truly did. 0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.800 Yeah, Maya has to be kicked off though immediately. Maya 0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:50.440 I think should have gone home before Mogami. 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.440 Maya. No, her lip syncs are better, but. 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.480 Yeah, the lip sync is like she's she's getting the 0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:58.800 ellipseync assassin stuff. But Tricksy's obsessed with her share imitation 0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.200 because she goes I I'm sure like she does this 0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.719 like crazy share imitation that sounds like kermit. Anyway, I 0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.520 feel like Annalise has made a thirty minute flag. 0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:08.400 We have to start. 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.640 Yeah, there it is, and we have a great episode 0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:12.560 one I've been wanting to do. 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.959 It just went crazy at the end, and that's what 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:15.400 I have to do. 0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.600 I'm going to delete Instagram off my phone right now 0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.280 on this podcast live that is. 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.040 I think that's Oh, you're doing it right now. 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:24.800 I have to remove the app by delete app, okay, delete, 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.160 because that's where my rage comes from. I get fed 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.400 this information that upsets me, and then I come on 0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.880 here and I yell instead of moving on to a 0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.400 horrific crime episode that haunts us forever. 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:37.120 You know what I mean? 0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.360 Like, why am I talking about Elon Musk and being 0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:45.000 mad and about Texas went? I also care, But yeah, 0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:46.880 it's my phone that gets me raged. 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:51.440 It's gone. I deleted it again. Don't DM me okay 0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:51.960 once again. 0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.160 I'll be fielding all of Liza's dms over at the 0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.720 dast messed up pod account. We will see you there, guys, 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:00.880 Stay tuned. Great up coming up. 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.760 All right, we are doing Townhouse Incident from season seventeen, 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:10.000 and this is an episode I would say Kara has 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:11.640 been dying to do. 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:12.800 I mean a while. 0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.280 I hate to say that because I feel it is 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.880 one of the most haunting, one of the most fucked up, 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:19.720 But I think I just wanted to cover the crime 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.719 because of where I'm from, which is also deeply fucked up. 0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.400 But I'm a sick person. I don't know what to say. 0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:25.720 You guys know that if you're listening. 0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.760 Well, yeah, And the reason it took so long is 0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.960 because we had to wait for every single actor from 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:34.760 this episode to say no to be a guest. So surprise, 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.040 there is no guests on this episode. So this is 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.640 a new era of our show. Guest no guest surprises. 0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:43.720 Yeah and yeah, so Townhouse Incident, and I guess we 0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.320 will do a trigger warning. This one is really upsetting. 0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:48.880 This one's upsetting. You're all upsetting, but this one is. 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.000 Yeah, this one has a lot of wild details that 0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:52.760 are upsetting. 0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:53.240 Well. 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.560 And also anytime we see our queen in distress, it 0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:58.120 adds well, That's what I. 0:31:58.080 --> 0:31:58.840 Was going to say too. 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.680 This is very hot off of William Lewis, which was 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.360 season fourteen fifteen. It's like, you only gave us season 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.360 sixteen to chill and she's. 0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.400 Already a bit chill. There was Johnny D. It was like, oh, 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:12.600 not chill, but not. 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.720 I guess her being held against her will, like they 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:19.440 give us like no time to breathe before she's back. Anyway, 0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.120 not to spoil, but you're getting. 0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.880 You're way hold on, give me a second, let me 0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:24.040 go grab my snapple. 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.520 Yeah, I'm in New York. Oh you bitch. 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.320 So this starts out with a woman walking and you 0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.800 can recognize her anywhere. That's the babysitter extraordinaire. It is 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.400 Lucy and she's strutting, She's really strutting. And then she 0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:39.280 heads up the stairs of a brown stone knock, knock. 0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:43.680 A woman answers, ye, Lucy, hi, and the mom was 0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.720 only opening this door just like a little crack. So sorry, 0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.440 I meant to text you, but Luca has straps, so 0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.680 you're out of here. But like she does, Lucy does 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.480 get a vibe. She does everything okay, and then we 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:58.360 hear a man from the distance yell fine, it's fine, 0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.440 you know no every So this man yells and she says, oh, 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.960 that's my husband. He's helping out today and that makes 0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:08.600 Lucy suspicious. And so when she gets to Benson's place, 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:09.160 she goes. 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.040 Hey, really quick, really quick, do you know who the 0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:12.200 mom is playing her? 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:17.720 Yes, she is from the episode. 0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.840 Send In the Clowns, Send In the Clowns. Oh, I 0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:22.480 only brought it up because you love her name. Her 0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.040 name is Wendy Hoops, and I know you liked that 0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.240 name when we covered Sending the Clowns. She's the one 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.280 that's married to will Sasso, but it's been cheating on 0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:31.040 his ass. 0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:31.920 Yeah. 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.440 She was also in one sex in the City episode 0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.120 Do they shoot single people, don't they? 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:36.960 Or whatever? That one? 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.880 Yeah, but also she is huge and Daria, so she's 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:44.400 Quinn and Helen, so Daria's mom and sister. And she 0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:49.400 is Jane Laane, so yeah, she is a cool woman. 0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.160 So anyway, so Lucy's with Benson and goes, hey, you 0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.840 know the Cravellos or Cervello's I already don't remember how 0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:55.240 to say it. 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:56.080 Oh. 0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.160 They have two kids, and she walks to the younger 0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.760 boy to school, and this morning the mom was acting strange. 0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:02.880 Something is off, and she goes, you. 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.000 Know, shaky voice, redmarks, nervous, yelling can you just please 0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.359 swing by? Benson of course, very passionate about her job 0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:11.280 and keeping her babysitter happy. 0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.000 This woman is a very amazing babysitter. 0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.800 Lisa opens the door and she goes, oh, Noah's mom, 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.440 And right away she's like, Lucy isn't here, and Luca's sick, 0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:22.239 so that's that. 0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:23.319 Get the fuck out of here. 0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.520 Benson is trying to talk, She's trying to pry ask 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:28.839 some questions, and we hear a man whisper go let 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:33.560 her in. Very upsetting. She's pushed against the wall immediately 0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.839 with a gun. There's a woman with a gun as well. 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.480 She calls Benson a bitch, and then there's a teen 0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.319 daughter crying. She's standing by the stairs, and Benson's like, 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.600 fuck Lucy, like, oh my god. And then Lisa apologizes 0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.000 to Benson. She obviously feels guilty. But in my head, 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:49.279 why do you keep opening the door? 0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:50.239 Yeah? 0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.640 If I was holding people a hostage, I would not 0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.200 open the door. I think, I don't know, I've never 0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:55.799 done it, but. 0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.680 Yeah, I feel like the guy keeps being like, open 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:02.880 it and send them away so that it doesn't feel suspicious, 0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.680 like because if you go over to someone's house and 0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.280 knock on the door and you can't find a family, 0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:07.920 then you're then you might call the cops. 0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:08.400 I don't know. 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:10.880 I'm trying to get the mind inside the mind of 0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.200 a very drugged out blacko. 0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.080 So it's the drugs, because in my head I would 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:20.680 not answer the door. Yeah, but you know whatever. But 0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:23.520 it goes to credits, obviously, and I'm scared. These people 0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.360 are unhinged, and now we are trapped in this townhouse. 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:28.480 We open back up and there's another man in a 0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.680 beanie and he pops into frame. And this guy you 0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.080 might remember him from Orange's New Black. He was the 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.719 guard who was like Tarren Manning's character's love interests but 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:43.240 then rapists, criminal, controlling, and also he's a prison guard, 0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:43.880 so any. 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.680 Sexual stuff is rape. 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.840 But they did and the beginning really tease it into 0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.040 being like the sweet friendship. 0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:55.160 Yeah, and then and then it until it wasn't. Yeah, yeah, 0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:56.480 until it wasn't. 0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.319 But he plays kind of the same kind of guy here, 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.360 you know, like I'm a good old idiot. 0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.239 But there is a gun there. 0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:07.120 And he's in another episode where they beat up homeless 0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:10.279 people because his girlfriend's dad. You know, it was like 0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.480 a red hairring of another episode we covered. 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.799 Oh you know how like Taylor Swift's website crashed the 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.000 night of the Grammys to like with all these clues 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:23.800 towards for the album, like all the clues come together 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:27.279 in different languages spelled out red herring or something like that, 0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:31.480 like a Japanese Like, shit's insane. She is so insane. 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.800 I mean she does love SVU. It makes sense. 0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.520 There's clues, there are there is detective work. There is 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.680 a spell backwards. I'm gonna get it written on a door. 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:43.239 Oh my god. 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:47.040 You know those iren the like straightener They look like straighteners, 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:48.320 but they're just smooth out clothing. 0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:49.320 Yeah. 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.880 I saw an Instagram targeted ad and it's iron backwards. 0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:58.840 It's Nori. Oh fucking like we got you. 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.600 Well no, no, they told me. They told me the video. 0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:04.000 I did not come up with that on my own. 0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.840 And he legit walks in AND's like, who is this bitch? 0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.799 Everyone thinks Benson's a bitch. She's just a woman, and 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.120 then everyone has like guns on her. Her hands are 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.839 in the air, and she's like, I'm only here by 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:18.880 a chance, but I do have to admit to you 0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:23.120 I am an NYPD officer, and she admits to being armed. 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:24.040 He takes off her gun. 0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.719 He's looking for another gun, and while he's there, he 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.879 does grop her and then they ask Lisa, like why 0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.480 won't your man just cough it up? And so she 0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:34.440 go and like give us the money, and she's like, 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.760 I told you, we don't keep cash in the house. 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.279 And to me, it's like, why would you lie? If 0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:41.840 I had three guns pointing and my children there, I 0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:43.960 would give you my safe. I'd give you diamonds, I'd 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:44.720 give you my cash. 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:46.320 Like in what world? 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.600 I mean, we're gonna find out carroty Met said it. 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.840 They're on drugs. They're on drugs. They keep trying to 0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:52.960 be like, well no, I keep trying to be like 0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:57.040 why would this man, Like why would they risk their 0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.640 children's lives for a safe? Like they don't have a 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:03.520 safe here, Like grab some jewels, grab a toaster, and 0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.799 run out the door. Like it's a failed plot, like 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.440 go to the next townhouse. This is out of control. 0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.720 There's so many guns. Anyways, so the red haired woman 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.200 throws Lisa onto the ground. The pale guy says, kick 0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.719 his ass until he coughs it up, and so the 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.839 beanie guy goes and just keeps kicking the shit out 0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.320 of this bloody dad. That's like laying in the kitchen 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.080 and it's hard to listen to like the cough, like 0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:27.120 it's not good. 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.919 So because like even if the dad was being a man, 0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.439 the wife would be like, stop, the safe is here, 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.440 here's the combo, like you know what I mean, Like 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.040 even if a man was trying to be like tough 0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.040 and like, I can handle being beat the shit out 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.439 of Like, but yeah, the kids, you're right, it makes 0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:42.240 no fucking sense. 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.719 But drugs. Drugs. 0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.879 So yeah, so we have so the dad's getting beat 0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.200 up by the beanie boy. We have the mom got 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.160 thrown on the ground, the teen girl is standing, we 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.919 don't know where Luca is, and Benson's against the door, 0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.719 so that's where we are. He asks who else knows 0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.880 you're here? She says nobody. They don't believe her, but 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.960 sadly it is the truth. Nobody fuck, I mean, Lucy knows, 0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.759 but it's yeah. So then there's like tears in her 0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:10.400 eyes and then the drugged up guy tells Roxy to 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:13.520 tie her up, and Benson tries to negotiate, and instead 0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.359 he punches the shit out of her. So now she's 0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.680 in the ground, like her hair is everywhere. She is bewildered. 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.320 This is not a good day. A very big punch. 0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.920 And then so this the lead guy. He looks like 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.040 he has johndice. He is not doing good. 0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.120 It is I don't know what they did for makeup 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:34.080 for him. He's got red eyes like very scary, like. 0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:38.359 Gross like and the daughter is visibly scared. And so 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:40.360 then now we cut to Baby Dodds and this is 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.279 so annoying. We don't want to see any of this, 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:43.880 Like we want to be in the townhouse, but we 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.799 don't because it's scary. But like, everything that happens is 0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:47.680 so fucking annoying. 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:48.040 So whatever. 0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:49.759 We go to Baby Dodds and Finn and they talk 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.440 boxing and then Creasy interrupts him and is like, hey, 0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.680 where's live We got a call, and dodd says, well, 0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.799 she's gone for the day. Fuck at a conference. So 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.120 she's supposed to be at a DNA conference, so that's 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:04.520 extra bad. And then Carreese is like, looks like our 0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.239 pushin rapists struck again in Chelsea, so we're gonna go 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.120 find this rapist and he says, well, I'll text Benson 0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.000 when I get to the sea and just to let 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.719 her know what's up. So then it cuts to the 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:17.680 dad again getting the shit beat out of him, and 0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:19.319 at this point, why won't you believe him? 0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:20.360 He is so bloody. 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.120 So then the jaundice guy yells at the beanie guy 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.400 and goes, you said there'd be a safe with money. 0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:29.360 They own ten supermarkets. So the beanie guy has a 0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.800 different idea and he's like, listen, Roxy's upstairs taking the jewelry. 0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.960 Let's just leave. After that, the leader, of course, is like, 0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.880 absolutely not. You said there's a safe, you need to 0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.840 go find it. So the mom whispers to Benson, like 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.319 how this all happened? And basically the girl rang the 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.120 doorbell at six am saying she was robbed, and then 0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.200 when Lisa turned around to call nine one one, the 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.400 men burst in. She does know the guy in the 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:54.399 beanie his name is Ralph, and he used to drive 0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.879 a truck at one of their stores and he did 0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.880 get fired, and then she doesn't know anyone else, and 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.960 then Luca is upstairs and why and then so but 0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.120 then she's getting nervous because like, why is Roxy up 0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:07.080 there for so long? 0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:08.879 You know? And so Johndice is. 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.359 Doing coke at the moment in the middle of this 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.600 is not the time to do cocaine. But the beanie 0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:18.400 guy is super, super worried, and he's like, on this 0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.960 goose chase for the safe that he probably made up 0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:21.399 in his head. 0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.479 I wonder if it's coke or if it's like meth. 0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.800 He seems like really wild for coke. 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.480 You're right, but it looked like he was. But do 0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.879 you sniff up meth? I think you can. 0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.720 You can snort meth, but I don't know. I'm only 0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:35.360 going off of breaking bad. 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:39.520 I mean, I don't know. Yeah, it is really tough. 0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:43.800 So then a leader with Benson's phone sees a text 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.799 on her phone and it's about a rapist and she's like, 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.239 can I please see it? And Benson has a black guy. 0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:51.800 It's tough. So Roxy comes down with just two hundred 0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.040 dollars and it's crap jewels, and they don't trust the mom. 0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:56.880 They're like, what the fuck? We know you're rich, like 0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.239 you live in this townhouse. So they threaten to bring 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.000 her son down and so finally the mom's like, well, 0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.640 we have a safety deposit box. So then they decided 0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:05.960 to take the mom into the public, into the bank. 0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.920 So now we cut back to baby Dodds and he's 0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.799 with Finn and there with a couple. A woman is 0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:13.799 crying and the husband is actually a man that we know. 0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.200 His name is Tommy Pope and shot out he's a 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:17.120 comic from Philly. 0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:19.600 Oh I know I recognized him. 0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.680 Yeah. Yeah. So now we finally meet the young boy. 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:24.480 He's tied up and he's like, where's my mom And 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:28.040 Benson's like, it's okay, sweetheart, She's okay. And the boy 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:29.759 it's like, no one knows who you are, Benson. This 0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:31.680 boy's been tied up, like he doesn't know you're You're 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.279 a random woman that's just punched and brought in. 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:36.799 Like who here's what you're saying, you know. 0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:39.520 And he unfortunately also has the pee and he's tied 0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.440 up and Benson's like, hey, can I please help him 0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:45.040 in the co head is like absolutely not. So he 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.200 puts her on the bed and then asks Roxy for 0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:50.319 something and zip ties Benson's hands behind her back. 0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:51.200 Good. 0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:53.920 So now we're at the apartment with you know, the 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:57.239 other squad people and they're on the roof looking for 0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.680 this rapist who climbs buildings and attack. So they find 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:02.560 him up there and they arrest him and they text 0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.719 Benson like, Heley, yeah, we got the rapists. So he 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:09.879 wants to celebrate and pulls out a knife, so that's 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.400 not good, and then he just goes any meany miney 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:14.759 and then he ends in Hoe, so he's trying to 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.560 be clever and menacing puts a knife to the young 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.600 teen and she is so scared and she's pleading for 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.920 help and she's screaming, and Benson's like, Roxy, fucking do something. 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:24.600 Go in there. 0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.839 And Benson goes, Roxy, this is on you, like, let 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.279 me back in there, and she keeps trying to plead 0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:33.200 with Roxy, who then pistol whips her and so she 0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.719 falls back on the bed. Pistol whipping is not chill. 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:36.600 And then the. 0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:40.879 Ginger bitch puts a gun to the Benson's chin and goes, 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.719 don't do that again. So we hear the teen like 0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.200 pleading for help on the other side, and she's with 0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:50.160 like the Jarndice cokead with a knife. Benson looks worried 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.520 and pissed and this is terrible and it's just getting worse, 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.560 and the music sounds like tasers which also isn't good, 0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:58.719 Like instrumental already is scary, and now it's like a 0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:03.920 techno taser, so I'm not I it's it's not relaxed. 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.239 But what's also crazy is like at this point, the 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:09.800 Ginger reveals that they're a couple. Jaundice and the redhead 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.800 Roxy and the and cooked Jaundice as you've been calling him. 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:14.680 Are a couple. 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.160 And then Beanie is her brother, So that's the gang. 0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.200 And it's just like you're just gonna go let your 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:25.800 boyfriend go assault a team while you're hanging out keeping guard. 0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:26.560 It's wild. 0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.640 Yeah, yeah, because I also don't see I mean, she 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.200 they obviously all love drugs, but like he's the only 0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:35.719 one actively doing drugs dah that you see. Yeah, I 0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:40.319 guess the rest of them are more professional robbers else 0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:41.200 they like. 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:42.040 To stay clear headed. 0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.960 So we're, you know, at the precinct now, and the 0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:47.759 rapists that they got from the roof is like, you 0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:49.759 have the wrong guy, I'm gonna assue you, and Finn 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.560 Increasy are leading him handcuffed like shut up, we have 0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:55.000 DNA evidence, and he just says lawyer. 0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:57.200 So we're back at the townhouse. 0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.560 The boy I like that it is in short snippets 0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:01.480 like it does make me in a rage every time 0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.200 we leave into that stupid storyline, Like I'm like, can 0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:05.960 we just can we just get them to find out 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:06.760 that she's been taken? 0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:08.120 But you know whatever. 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.160 So the boy is yelling to Benson, he's hurting her, 0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.279 make him stop, like he has to fucking listen to 0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:16.319 sister getting assaulted right now. And then Roxy yells at 0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:18.279 him to shut the fuck up and for Benson to 0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.319 do something, and it's like, well, why don't you untie me, 0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.279 you dumb bitch. Did I not tell you that I 0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.839 was gonna like help? And Benson goes, I'm not gonna 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.960 do anything stupid, Just let me help the boy. So 0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:28.759 she takes the knife. She unties the boy, and she 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:33.080 unties Benson and goes get him quiet, so she comforts him, 0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:35.319 she hugs him, she helps him breathe, and then she 0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.400 finds headphones in an iPad and she puts it on 0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.919 for him, and Roxy is amazed at her skills. Benson's like, girl, 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:42.799 I know this isn't the way you wanted this to 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.600 go down, and she snaps, you don't know me, and 0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:47.279 she's like, well, I fucking know that you don't want 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.120 to hear your boyfriend raping a sixteen year old. And 0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.839 she's like, Joe does what he does, and I do 0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.960 what I do. Cool answer, yeah. So then Benson whispers 0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:59.600 you can save yourself, and she asks if Benson is 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:03.000 mother's and then and then goes, I don't need you. 0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:08.239 I've been saved by Joe. Okay, it seems like you're 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.839 in a lot of trouble. So anyways, the phone rings, 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.360 Roxy grabs it while still having the gun pointed at 0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.200 Benson and asks who the fuck is Lucy. She goes, oh, 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.839 that's mine and Luca sitter. She needs me and let 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.240 me talk to her. I got a chat about daycare pickup, 0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:23.920 Roxy thinks, and we cut back to the case we 0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.440 don't care about. A lawyer comes in and is like, wow, 0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:28.960 another unarmed black man. I guess we should be grateful 0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.640 you didn't shoot him, and Finn's like, nah, he had 0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:33.799 a gun. And then he goes, oh, yeah, did you 0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.360 plant it? And Barbara's with Finn and baby Dods and 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.319 he says, don't troll. This is your client's third rape 0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:41.680 and we have evidence and he so then this lawyer 0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:43.759 goes I'm going to go talk to my client. So 0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.359 he runs in there and Barbara asks where I live 0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:49.560 is and Finn goes, oh, at this DNA conference and 0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:53.959 Barba goes, no, she was not. I was there all morning, done, done, 0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:55.480 So what's going on? 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:57.640 Also? What is a DNA conference? I thought I was 0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:00.799 gonna rape kids? But now that Barba there, why is 0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:05.359 he there? Yeah? New a guess in DNA. I don't know. 0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.040 I guess Barbarush couldn't learn about rape kits too, Okay, 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.320 so they all take a breath in. Lucy is now 0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.520 running in to talk to Detective Creasy and he's so 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:19.040 charming and she is so stressed. So she is shocked 0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.239 to hear that Benson is not there, and she's like, 0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.120 that's not good. I sent her to check on another 0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:26.160 family because I got bad vibes. And Lucy then got 0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.719 a text from Benson and it says, stuck at precinct 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:33.520 all day. Pick up William at daycare. He has a 0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:38.480 playdate with Lewis today. So smart, it is so smart. 0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:40.680 But do you think Lucy put that together because of 0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:42.719 the William Lewis or because of the precinct? 0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:43.359 Like, what was it? 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:43.480 No? 0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:45.640 I think she picked it up that she's like, his 0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:48.000 name's Noah, not William, Like why does she send me 0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:51.200 this weird thing? And Benson knew she would bring it 0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.720 to somebody and that the squad would get the William 0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:55.720 Lewis reference in my opinion. 0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:59.200 But my thing is was was Noah with Lucy? Oh no, 0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:03.879 he's a daycare? Yeah? I was like, okay, who's Lucy's baby? 0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:05.879 And Lucy's also probably like he doesn't have a friend 0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.239 named Lewis, Like, who the fuck? What are you talking about? 0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:09.200 What's this message? 0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:10.160 Yeah? 0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:10.480 Wow? 0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.680 And she already did see the fear and the mom 0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:15.680 that morning. Okay, Yeah, Lucy is an angel. I wish 0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:20.080 she agreed to do the podcast. Me too, So if 0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:22.120 you're friends with her, let her know we're pissed. 0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:23.040 Okay, So. 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:27.280 We wanted to talk to the best babysitter in fucking 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:28.200 New York City. 0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.799 So that means no one has fucking talked to her. 0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.960 And like they go, if it says William Lewis, that 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.279 must be a code for a ten thirteen, And the 0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.520 boys are get into action right away, and they have 0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:42.279 to get to this townhouse, and so Barbara keeps calling 0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:44.799 Benson and Roxy's annoyed, and Benson's like, listen, I'm a 0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:48.600 working woman. Some people have jobs. And the rapist comes 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:50.640 back into the room with the teen daughter. It's really 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:53.560 hard to watch. She's a very good actress. She's really 0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:56.280 roughed up. Benson helps her and he notices she's untied. 0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.160 Doesn't like it, and Roxy's like, whatever, they're not going anywhere. 0:48:59.239 --> 0:48:59.680 Shut up. 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.759 He threatens her and he goes, if you pull anything, 0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:06.200 you will never see your son again, so you know, 0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:08.919 but not like Benson is so shut up. Of course 0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:10.640 she's gonna pull something and you're not even gonna see 0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:15.080 it happening. So anyways, Ralph Ralph calls. So they got 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:17.160 cash from the ATM, but the mom is really upset 0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:18.880 and she demands that she gets to talk to her 0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:21.960 children before they enter the bank. Roxy says, absolutely not, 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:25.200 we need the money first, and so they keep arguing. 0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:28.160 The jaundice coke guy is a rapist. You know. 0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:30.280 He keeps getting more and more titles that keep getting 0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.040 worse and worse, and then he goes what she wants 0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:34.920 to hear them scream and Benson's like, oh, I have 0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:36.400 a great idea. Why don't you just take a photo 0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:39.279 of them, just send them a photo and so that's 0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.239 a great idea and then for the money worth it, 0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:44.840 So he does it, and then he goes, if no cash, 0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.920 they're dead. So now another doorbell rings and it's like, 0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:49.480 who the fuck is it now? 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:51.640 So and who's gonna get the door? 0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:55.520 So the leader puts the gun on the on Luca 0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:58.279 and tells the teen you go downstairs and if you 0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:00.160 fuck this up, your brother is going to be dea. 0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:02.600 She of course cries, this is too much for a 0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:05.680 teenager in the morning, and so Roxy has a gun 0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:08.239 on her head, so there's guns on each child's head. 0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.040 She opens the door slowly and says, I'm not supposed 0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.279 to open the door, and it's fin and creasy, and 0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:15.759 they're like, oh, no, worries. We're truant officers for the 0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:18.280 school and you and your brother weren't at school today, 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:20.839 and she's like, yeah, we're sick. And Finn's like, can 0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:22.439 we talk to your parents? She goes, they're not home 0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:25.160 and I have to go bye. The men obviously know 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.200 like there's like we all know what's happening, but is 0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:29.000 this a real job? 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:32.960 Do you know about truant officers? It is a real thing. 0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:36.000 There Are they real coops or do they work for 0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:37.759 the board of education? Like do they have guns and 0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:39.920 batons or just flashlights in a notepad? 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:40.120 Like? 0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:44.880 What is a truant officer's like full scope of life? 0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:47.719 Where it exists a school? This is Wikipedia. 0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:50.200 Where it exists a school, truancy officer is often a 0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:54.239 constable or sheriff. Okay, there's something that says that the 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:58.680 homeschooling community has to interact with truant officers. It says 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:01.759 NYPD has a truant unit that will patrol parks and 0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:05.319 beaches on nice weather school days, but if they catch you, 0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:07.040 get put in advant inced back to school. This is 0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:09.400 all off of a Reddit and the response is a 0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:11.480 couple of years old. So I don't know for sure 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:13.680 if you know more about truancye. I'm sure you're gonna 0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:14.840 be letting me know in the DMS. 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:18.640 Yeah, if you know a truant officer, yeah, maybe we'll 0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:19.279 talk to them. 0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:22.239 Who knows. Okay, So anyway, it feels. 0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:25.719 Literally like put like toothpaste back into two or like 0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:27.799 it sounds like one of these impossible jobs, like kids 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:29.560 are always going to skip school, Like you're just going 0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:32.000 to be running around being like, why aren't you at school? 0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:33.680 Like, I don't know, it feels like a crazy job. 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:37.520 But well, I wonder if the actual heart of it's 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:40.279 not because I don't trust authority in our world, but 0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:42.719 like I wonder if it's like, oh, fuck is the 0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:43.200 home life? 0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:43.600 Okay? 0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:46.360 Like I wonder if it started as like, wait, do 0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:48.840 no parents care for your kids? I mean, my nephew 0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:52.040 doesn't go to fucking school. I don't know what the 0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:53.040 balls on this kid? 0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.600 Okay, like that, if the school reaches out and says 0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.080 your kid keeps missing school and the parent doesn't respond, 0:51:58.200 --> 0:51:59.520 then maybe they'll send somebody. 0:51:59.560 --> 0:51:59.920 I don't know. 0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.279 Yeah, And Finn is in a peacoat and Careasey's in 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.840 a puffer. So if that's something that you were interested 0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:09.840 in knowing, that's what's happening. Roxy is relieved that they're gone, 0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.400 and then Joe is pissed and he's like, those are cops. 0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.839 What the fuck would you say to them? And then 0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:18.160 So grabs the teen's face. She's so scared. She says nothing. 0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:20.399 She's like, I just told him Luca and I were sick, 0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.960 and Benson says, hey, look, they might have figured it 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:26.800 out like that I'm here because I'm a beloved figure 0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:29.480 in the community. So your next you know, and their 0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:31.360 next move is going to be to call for backup, 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:33.319 and so now is the time for you guys to 0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:36.160 get the fuck out of here. And Roxy's like, shut up, 0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:38.359 stop fucking talking. No one wants to listen to you. 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:40.399 And you know, he's like like they're both like, she's 0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:43.200 a cop, she's gonna lie. This is a trap, and 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.839 they don't want to trust her. But like Benson keeps 0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:48.120 trying to tell them, like, there's about to be a 0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:49.600 swat team, So if you want to get out, you 0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:51.440 better fucking get out now, because there's about to be 0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:55.160 a perimeter. Like she is actually helping them, like there's 0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:56.000 gonna be backup. 0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.040 You guys need to get the fuck out of her. 0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:00.680 Music plays and the cooke had re uses to leave 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:03.920 even though Roxy wants to leave, and then we see backup. 0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:07.120 They're on their way, the snipers already, cops vans, lights everywhere, 0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:10.080 Dods and Creesy and Finn. They're getting scooped from the 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:14.640 other officers. One guy I recognized Kevin Gear, who sadly 0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:17.440 did pass in twenty seventeen, at only sixty four, but 0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:23.600 he's been in four Suvsvus, Svius Sacrifice, Conned True Believers, 0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:26.200 and then this one so spanning season three to seventeen, 0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:30.239 which is pretty incredible. But he lets the squad know 0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:32.880 that they have to wait for astage. 0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:36.040 He also looks like Ron Howard's brother. 0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:41.840 Yeah, and that's why I felt like he looked familiar. 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:45.400 But when I looked him up, the svws were the big. 0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:46.520 Thing that I yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:49.879 And also the girl that plays Roxy just came back 0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:53.480 in season twenty five. In the season premiere, she plays 0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:57.279 like an SVU detective from Jersey when you know, like 0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:00.239 they're fine trying to find the girl that is like 0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:02.799 the thread of the whole season. Yeah, so she was 0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:07.640 back as a cop just to red Hair still yeah 0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:11.640 wow love that. So yeah, so this guy, this actor, 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:14.040 he tells them like, we have to wait for hostage negotiation. 0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:16.239 We can't really do anything, but you know, we have 0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:19.360 eyes on everything, no visual on the parents, but we 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.239 see everyone else indoors. And now the koke head sees 0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:24.000 all the cops out the window and it's like fuck it. 0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:26.680 And Roxy goes, yeah, I told you so, And Benson 0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:27.280 goes listen. 0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:30.239 Why don't you just keep me Let Richard go the dad, 0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.280 I'm your best asset, and Roxy's like, fuck, they're gonna 0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:36.840 kill us, and she's questioning her whole life in this moment, 0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:40.520 and then another twist, the coke boy asks where okay, 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:42.319 So this is where we actually find out about the brother, 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:45.680 but I guess it's fine. So then Joe is like, 0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:48.600 where the fuck's Ralph? Where's your brother? He should have 0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:50.680 been back here by now, you fucking idiot. You said 0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:53.200 your brother can do this, and Roxy's like, well, what's 0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:55.080 the plan, and the coke heads like let me think, 0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:56.799 shut up, and It's like, yeah, because your plans have 0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:59.160 been so good, Like at what point do you stop 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:02.320 listening to the coke kid who keeps making the wrong decision, 0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:04.920 you know what I mean? Like obviously he's abusive and 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:07.400 crazy and like I don't know how he saved Roxy 0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:10.279 or like what's going on in that family. But it 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.680 is like, dude, you should have listened to Roxy and left, 0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:13.440 so maybe. 0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:14.600 She should come up with the next idea. 0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:16.960 So then he tells Benson, you need to get us 0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:19.040 out of here, tell them to stand down, and she 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:21.759 says they're not going to do that, bro, and he goes, well, 0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:23.880 then you better make it, shoves the gun to the 0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:25.520 teen into the teen girl's mouth. 0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:26.440 Oh my god. 0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.800 She cries put and like and pushes back, and finally 0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:33.239 Roxy's grossed out. Finally Roxy has hit her limit the 0:55:33.360 --> 0:55:37.640 rape fine seeing the gun, yeah, Benson goes, okay, stop, 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:38.280 give me the phone. 0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:39.200 I'll call my sergeant. 0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:41.880 So you know, he obviously goes speakers on speaker on 0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:42.640 no secrets. 0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:43.840 Dodd's answers. 0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:46.759 So then Joe demands all cameras down that are like 0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.920 spying into the home and that the snipers go away, 0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:51.960 and Dodds agrees and goes, fine, I'll do it. 0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:52.440 I'll do it. 0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:54.520 And then they go and we're going to bring in 0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:56.680 a negotiator, and this guy like hates the idea of 0:55:56.719 --> 0:56:00.399 the negotiator. I guess like drugs are so bad. He goes, 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:01.880 I don't want to fucking negotiator. 0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:03.400 What are they gonna do? Bring me a pizza? I 0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:04.120 don't want it. 0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:07.839 And Benson's trying to make him understand, like, so you're 0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:11.920 actually holding a family and a police officer hostage, Okay, babe, 0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:15.640 So this is a very serious scenario. If you don't 0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:19.279 talk to them to the negotiator. They will burst in 0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:22.440 and they will take you down. He will die. Roxy 0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:25.840 goes Joe. So then Joe goes fine. So he asks 0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:28.240 who she trusts in the NYPD. She goes my whole squad, 0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:31.520 and he goes, no higher up, someone that really cares 0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:34.840 about you, and someone that cares if you live or die. 0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.040 She thinks a little bit, who's it gonna be? 0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:40.799 Tucker? It's Tucker. He's walking in. He has a tan, 0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:42.799 he does have a sexy tan, and he's ready to 0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:45.759 save Benson. So, Tucker, do you think they fucked after 0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:48.000 this or like they took a day off like you 0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:48.440 know what I mean. 0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:51.560 I didn't remember if they were already together or not yet. 0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:55.560 Either way, Yeah, there is tension, like when someone saves 0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:56.400 you from mohstage. 0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:58.040 Benson will be saved. 0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:02.840 Sorry to ruin it, guys, Yeah yeah, spoiler, she doesn't die. 0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:06.319 Here, But like, you fuck the person that saves you, right, 0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:09.279 I guess? Yeah? I mean I would be turned. 0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:11.320 I think that's the rules, but maybe I would be 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:15.680 tired too, like I just wonder. So Tucker immediately gets it. 0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:18.120 He goes, this guy's hopped up on drugs. His emotions 0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:21.440 are high. He's high as hell, so there's no rational 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.040 thinking at all, so we need to like act like, 0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:27.680 you know, we're dealing with an idiot. So Benson is 0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:29.680 tied up again. I did not notice that, and I'm 0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:32.800 not happy about it. Joe sits her down hard and goes, 0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:34.440 where is the guy with the juice? 0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:37.120 And she's really confident. She's like, he's gonna be here. 0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:40.280 So she asks to check in on Richard since Tucker 0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:42.400 will be checking to see how the hostages are doing, 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:44.760 and she asks to take Roxy with her, and the 0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:47.320 bozo goes, this is actually all your fault, so if 0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:50.640 anyone dies, it's on you, and Roxy goes, nobody is 0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:53.320 gonna die. She's gonna get her friend to help us, 0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:55.000 and we're getting out of here, and Joe is like, 0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:57.760 what about your idiot brother, which is a great. 0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:58.560 Paul rud movie. 0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:02.520 Okay, and Benson's like, the cops are all over here. 0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:04.320 If he saw a cop, I'm sure he went in 0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:07.440 another direction, you know, Like you're not gonna drive through 0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:11.600 the cops to get back into this townhouse. Like I mean, 0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:14.880 this should be an anti drug ad. So the phone rings. 0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:19.600 The man's the main psycho answers. There's laughing and sniffling Benson. 0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:23.160 You know, it's put on speaker. Benson's there and a 0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:26.400 gun is pointing at her. So then she's breaking down 0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:29.480 everything that like went down to Tucker. But then Joe 0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:31.960 does not want to reveal that the mom is gone 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:34.680 and wants her to lie, and Benson goes, listen, if 0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:37.760 we like to Tucker, he's gonna get nervous and that's 0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:40.280 not gonna be good. He goes, but don't mention the bank, 0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:43.240 and Benson goes, Okay, great idea. I won't mention the bank, 0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:45.120 but we have you know, I'll just say that she's 0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:47.320 gone and we'll be back soon. All of them in 0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:49.960 the work bus immediately know what's up. They're like, like, 0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:52.720 you know, I mean, Finn know's the most, but they're like, okay, 0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:55.320 she's gone. Finn goes right away. Okay, there's a third guy. 0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:58.400 They're doing a bank run. He's so good, but there's 0:58:58.400 --> 0:58:59.800 so many banks. How are we going to figure out 0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:01.840 which to go to? So they're actually now going to 0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:05.800 shut down every single bank in the area. They're also 0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:08.720 going to check the family financials to figure stuff out. 0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:11.880 And now you know, Tucker is talking to Joe. He's 0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:13.280 straight up is like, I have a gun to your 0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:16.120 friend's heads, so they're better not be tricks. Tucker goes, 0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:18.360 do I look like the tricks rabbit? Maybe no tricks? 0:59:18.400 --> 0:59:20.840 So then I'm here. I do this all the time. 0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:23.040 I'll get you out of this. So then Joe forces 0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:27.600 Benson to like tell Tucker on the phone he has demands, 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:29.720 and then he goes into the demands and I don't 0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:32.840 understand why he needed an introduction by Benson, but he 0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:33.640 is on trucks. 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:34.280 I'm sorry, I. 0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:36.280 Keep having to do this, like I keep being confused 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:38.800 at his behavior, yeah, and then remembering he might be 0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:42.680 on like and it's not because it's not a criminal mastermind, Yeah, 0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:48.280 because it's yeah, and he just loves attention. So basically 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:51.320 his demands are he wants an SUV with tinted windows, 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:55.600 but it's also like gibulletproof glass, you idiot, no driver 0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:59.280 and can't be rigged, and a million dollars in cash. 0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:02.360 This man has seen too many action movies. Like the 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:05.800 demands are such like what a teenager would demand, Like 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:06.560 it's why what. 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:10.320 Would you demand? I mean, I don't know, like he's 1:00:10.400 --> 1:00:11.040 so fucked. 1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:13.240 It's like whatever he does, he has to take somebody 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:14.920 with him, like he has to take Olivia with him 1:00:14.920 --> 1:00:15.439 the whole time. 1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:20.480 Well guess what. It gets even more crazy. So he wants, 1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:23.280 you know, he wants the streets cleared out to a 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:26.920 helipad like he's the fucking pope end quote. 1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:29.760 Then that's a cocaine idea. You know what I mean 1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:30.680 that is? 1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:34.000 That is then the helicopter is gonna take him to 1:00:34.080 --> 1:00:39.080 an CJ four jet with no pilot because he can 1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:41.360 fly the plane. 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.040 Like he wants three modes of transportation. 1:00:44.080 --> 1:00:46.600 It's so insane. It's like you're on an island. You're 1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:48.320 on like the most populous island. 1:00:49.320 --> 1:00:51.480 You're not getting out, like I don't know. 1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:55.919 And then Tucker goes, Okay, that might take some time, 1:00:56.240 --> 1:01:00.440 but I'm on it, and Joe says or else, and 1:01:00.440 --> 1:01:02.520 Ticker's like, yeah, no, we will get these things in motion. 1:01:03.080 --> 1:01:05.440 But in good faith, why don't you send out these kids? 1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:07.800 And he goes, how about I don't shoot the kids dead? 1:01:07.840 --> 1:01:08.800 How about is that. 1:01:08.720 --> 1:01:09.720 Good faith enough for you? 1:01:10.120 --> 1:01:12.120 And then a loose cop tells Tucker they're ready to 1:01:12.120 --> 1:01:14.600 go in, and Tucker goes absolutely not. He's making demands, 1:01:14.600 --> 1:01:17.240 which means he's looking towards the future, which means he 1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:20.400 wants to live. And let's not get tactical. They tracked 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:23.240 an ATM withdrawal and they're headed over there. You know, 1:01:23.280 --> 1:01:26.280 they go and Creasy arrests Ralph pretty quickly. That's not 1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:28.680 even that big of a deal. Guns, you know you're 1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:31.439 under arrest, throws them to the ground. He blames Joe 1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:34.080 and he says that Joe made him do it. Caresey 1:01:34.120 --> 1:01:36.520 kneels down to his level and says, Joe is not 1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:39.960 your friend, and it's like obviously, But then Caresey goes, 1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:42.760 I am your friend, so tell me everything that's going 1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:43.480 in on that house. 1:01:44.040 --> 1:01:45.880 So now Dodds and Barbara are. 1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:48.640 Doing a street walk and talk talking about Ralph the 1:01:48.640 --> 1:01:52.840 beanie boy and him being fired his record failed drug tests. 1:01:53.120 --> 1:01:55.680 But they're like, he's not the ringleader, he's a fool. 1:01:56.160 --> 1:01:58.760 So they're taking the but you know, they're in the bus, 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:01.720 they're all talking and he's giving a lot of info. Okay, 1:02:02.280 --> 1:02:04.880 they're doing all this because him. He's saying that him 1:02:04.920 --> 1:02:07.600 and Roxy's mom needs a new hip, and Barbara nods like, 1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:11.040 uh huh, yeah, I'm sure, this is not for drug money. 1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:14.640 But it's not even like our mom needs a heart transplant. 1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:18.440 Our mom has like a terminal disease. It's like she 1:02:18.560 --> 1:02:21.040 just needs a new hip. Like, I don't know that 1:02:21.640 --> 1:02:23.560 the stakes aren't high enough for what you're doing. 1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:26.120 Yeah, but if you have cons I mean, my mom 1:02:26.120 --> 1:02:28.680 has had two hip replacements and it is life changing. 1:02:29.400 --> 1:02:32.520 Sure, sure, I just thought that they were trying to 1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:35.920 make If he's trying to get some sympathy, then it's like, oh, 1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:38.520 our mom is has cancer and is getting kicked out 1:02:38.520 --> 1:02:39.000 of our apartment. 1:02:39.040 --> 1:02:41.640 Oh way do you mean do you think that means 1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:43.480 that maybe he is telling the truth because the hip 1:02:43.520 --> 1:02:45.840 replacement's not that good of a lie. 1:02:46.280 --> 1:02:47.720 I think he's too stupid to come up with a 1:02:47.720 --> 1:02:48.160 good lie. 1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:52.280 Uh So Ralph is like me and Roxy are not 1:02:52.360 --> 1:02:56.080 in charge. Joe sucks, but he stops talking for just 1:02:56.120 --> 1:02:58.600 a second, and Barbara has a moment to go, I 1:02:58.640 --> 1:03:02.160 will put you away for le any murder if anyone dies. 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:05.120 Okay, so he immediately starts talking. He goes his name 1:03:05.160 --> 1:03:06.000 is Joe Utley. 1:03:06.200 --> 1:03:09.120 You know, the mom is being taken care of by 1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:11.800 EMTs at the moment, and she's like, hey, you know, 1:03:12.160 --> 1:03:16.680 I'm Wendy hoops JK. That's not really her name. But 1:03:16.800 --> 1:03:19.480 also in Sex in the City, her character name was Lennox. 1:03:20.080 --> 1:03:20.720 Is that a name? 1:03:21.160 --> 1:03:23.640 Yes, my son, my daughter goes to I went to 1:03:23.640 --> 1:03:24.720 school with a boy name Lennox. 1:03:24.920 --> 1:03:27.959 Boy. Yeah, boy, it's a cute name for a girl. 1:03:27.960 --> 1:03:29.680 Though I think I know, I've just never I know 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:31.960 at the hospital y and I know it is a 1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:34.440 last name. So anyways, she goes, oh my god, they 1:03:34.480 --> 1:03:36.680 were beating my husband so bad. They wouldn't stop. And 1:03:36.800 --> 1:03:38.840 Chrisy's like, well, the good news is that head wounds. 1:03:38.840 --> 1:03:41.040 They're bloody, but they look a lot worse than they are. 1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:45.040 But he does want details, crazy, you know. So now 1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:49.000 they're getting information from the mom and from Ralph. How 1:03:49.000 --> 1:03:53.160 many guns? There's three pistols. Joe had a machine gun too. Uh. 1:03:53.200 --> 1:03:56.160 They also took Benson's gun. And she and Lisa's begging. 1:03:56.200 --> 1:03:57.680 She's like, please let me go back with the money. 1:03:57.760 --> 1:04:00.560 It's only when my kids will be okay. And they're like, no, 1:04:00.600 --> 1:04:02.400 they're a lot, you know, and they go, how do 1:04:02.440 --> 1:04:05.120 you know that they're alive? And she goes, there's a 1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:08.040 photo on Ralph's phone. So now we're looking at Ralph's phone. 1:04:08.040 --> 1:04:10.360 There's a pick and so they are in there. They 1:04:10.400 --> 1:04:13.040 do look safe, so that's good news for the police officers. 1:04:13.360 --> 1:04:15.280 They tell Ralph to get on the phone with him 1:04:15.280 --> 1:04:18.400 and talk, but he's scared, and they're just like, fucking 1:04:18.520 --> 1:04:20.480 do it and tell him you have the money and 1:04:20.720 --> 1:04:23.280 ask the negotiator to let you to hook up safely. 1:04:23.640 --> 1:04:25.680 And he's like, I don't think I should be getting involved. 1:04:26.120 --> 1:04:28.720 Too Late, Finn lost his patience and goes, let me 1:04:28.760 --> 1:04:31.200 ask you something. You ever want to see your sister 1:04:31.320 --> 1:04:35.040 alive again? So Dodd's head's in the phone. Ralph answers. 1:04:35.080 --> 1:04:37.080 He says, I have cash right here, and he's like, 1:04:37.200 --> 1:04:39.560 cops know about everything, so just come back to the 1:04:39.560 --> 1:04:42.880 house and he's like, are you kidding? The house is surrounded. 1:04:43.040 --> 1:04:44.960 Joe says, just do it. The cops are going to 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:47.560 let you in, and then Ralph is pretty stupid. He goes, 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:50.520 I can't they got me. Joe yells, son of a bitch. 1:04:50.800 --> 1:04:53.840 Roxy cares about ralph well being and so she's like 1:04:53.880 --> 1:04:55.720 if he's okay, but Joe does not care about him 1:04:55.720 --> 1:04:58.400 at all. So then Tucker calls back and Joe says, 1:04:58.440 --> 1:05:01.360 I want Ralph and cash, and if you ever lie again, 1:05:01.440 --> 1:05:04.800 your pretty little girlfriend dies. Tucker says, nobody makes you 1:05:04.880 --> 1:05:08.120 kill if you don't want to. That makes Joe chuckle 1:05:08.160 --> 1:05:10.360 a little bit. He gives her the phone and Benson 1:05:10.400 --> 1:05:13.479 says he wants Ralph in there now, and Tucker goes, yeah, 1:05:13.520 --> 1:05:15.640 I get that, but we can't do that. Benson goes, 1:05:15.680 --> 1:05:18.120 the truth is we cannot send civilians inside. There is 1:05:18.160 --> 1:05:20.680 a law for that. Joe says, I'm done talking, and 1:05:20.720 --> 1:05:23.040 Tucker goes, do you know what a swat team is? 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:26.200 If you stop talking to me, they take over. So 1:05:26.520 --> 1:05:28.320 Joe goes, fine, but I want to talk to Ralph 1:05:28.320 --> 1:05:31.720 on the phone. Ralph just goes, dude, there are snipers everywhere. 1:05:31.760 --> 1:05:34.560 I can't go in. Joe says, you're an idiot, But 1:05:34.640 --> 1:05:37.880 now he's looking at Roxy blaming her again and says, 1:05:38.000 --> 1:05:40.040 you said he could do it. Roxy gets in his face. 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:42.440 He says, no, you should have gone. Don't you blame 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:44.360 this on him? And it's like, no, he blamed you. 1:05:44.440 --> 1:05:46.760 He didn't actually even blame Ralph. No one expects much 1:05:46.760 --> 1:05:50.120 from Ralph. So then Benson goes, listen, this is all 1:05:50.200 --> 1:05:53.200 on you, and this guy's not doing well and he 1:05:53.280 --> 1:05:56.480 will die. So at this point though, he throws Roxy 1:05:56.560 --> 1:05:59.480 to the ground using her face. The gun falls to 1:05:59.520 --> 1:06:04.160 Benson's nobody moves, then Roxy grabs it, breathing really really heavy. 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:04.720 So now what. 1:06:05.520 --> 1:06:09.480 Basically, Tucker offers Joe fifty grand and bonds from the 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:12.800 bank for a trade for the kids. Joe's finger goes 1:06:12.800 --> 1:06:16.320 in the air like one so okay, Joe is on board, 1:06:16.480 --> 1:06:19.320 but only one person leaves, So bring in the money 1:06:19.320 --> 1:06:22.600 and one person can leave. So Tucker's like, okay, good choice, 1:06:22.680 --> 1:06:24.560 I have your cash. EMTs are going to go in 1:06:24.600 --> 1:06:27.440 and we're gonna get the dat out. No tricks, no guns, 1:06:27.560 --> 1:06:30.760 just let him out. So then Joe asks like Benson 1:06:30.800 --> 1:06:32.600 to look and see what the EMTs are wearing. 1:06:32.920 --> 1:06:34.760 She goes, yep, just uniforms. 1:06:34.880 --> 1:06:37.480 But he wants to know that they're for sure not carrying, 1:06:37.920 --> 1:06:40.640 so he makes them strip down, but Tucker negotiates that 1:06:40.680 --> 1:06:43.480 they get to keep their vests on. So these EMTs 1:06:43.560 --> 1:06:46.480 walk in as strippers with vests on in their underwear 1:06:46.520 --> 1:06:49.360 and undershirts, which is annoying to me, and they should 1:06:49.360 --> 1:06:52.120 be shirtless for our entertainment. Ha. And then he's like, 1:06:52.120 --> 1:06:55.160 what about my car? And helicopter. Tucker goes, yeah, I'm 1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:56.760 on it. There's a lot going on, sir. 1:06:57.240 --> 1:06:59.439 This is like very much like a oh Pit Crew 1:06:59.640 --> 1:07:03.320 moment for the EMTs one hundred percent. 1:07:03.880 --> 1:07:06.600 So then Dodds is actually one of the EMTs in underwear. 1:07:07.440 --> 1:07:09.760 They cut with another EMT and they walk the dad 1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:11.840 out and the guns are pointed at the EMTs the 1:07:11.840 --> 1:07:15.160 whole time, and then he goes, actually, you guys take 1:07:15.200 --> 1:07:20.600 off your vests, so like Tucker. So now the guys 1:07:20.600 --> 1:07:24.160 give the vests to the terrorists and then walk out 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:26.840 with the dad. Tucker congratulates Dodds and the other dude 1:07:26.920 --> 1:07:29.360 on a good job, and then patronizes Joe and goes, 1:07:29.760 --> 1:07:30.280 thanks so. 1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:31.520 Much, dude for the switch. 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:36.600 And then the car is there, the escalator, suburban or whatever, 1:07:36.960 --> 1:07:39.480 and then heal he wants the keys ready in the ignition, 1:07:39.600 --> 1:07:41.720 the engine running, and the swat team gone with a 1:07:41.760 --> 1:07:42.320 clear path. 1:07:42.800 --> 1:07:45.520 Okay, veruk assault, you can't get everything. 1:07:46.720 --> 1:07:49.920 He makes Benson put a vest on Roxy, and Benson 1:07:49.920 --> 1:07:52.440 whispers to Roxy, you don't have to do this. They 1:07:52.480 --> 1:07:54.600 have your brother, he is safe. I know you don't 1:07:54.600 --> 1:07:56.680 want to die. This is your chance. Go out there, 1:07:56.800 --> 1:07:59.520 get on your knees and put your hands up. Roxy says, 1:07:59.560 --> 1:08:03.040 shut up. So Roxy walks out. Roxy slowly walks down 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:06.040 the stairs. She gets in the car passenger side. Benson 1:08:06.120 --> 1:08:09.080 peers out the window and now Roxy gets back out 1:08:09.080 --> 1:08:12.080 and says, everything is clear, Joe. And so then she 1:08:12.240 --> 1:08:15.840 looks up and sees like a hundred cops guns, shields. 1:08:15.840 --> 1:08:17.040 She gets really nervous. 1:08:17.479 --> 1:08:20.040 She looks up, she sees all the swat all over her, 1:08:20.080 --> 1:08:22.400 and she doesn't want to go back in. She doesn't, 1:08:22.760 --> 1:08:24.800 and Joe yells for Roxy to call back in, and 1:08:24.880 --> 1:08:27.160 Roxy thinks and into the phone she says, I'm. 1:08:27.040 --> 1:08:27.679 Sorry, Joe. 1:08:28.120 --> 1:08:30.080 She drops to her knees, puts her hands up, and 1:08:30.080 --> 1:08:32.519 they get her and they arrest her, which I think 1:08:32.600 --> 1:08:35.519 is better than being shot dead for a man. And 1:08:35.840 --> 1:08:37.840 that's like the new don't go to jail for a man, 1:08:37.920 --> 1:08:40.040 do not be shot dead for a man, So don't 1:08:40.080 --> 1:08:40.840 get a man. 1:08:40.920 --> 1:08:41.200 No no. 1:08:42.000 --> 1:08:44.759 Joe points the gun at Benson yet again and says, 1:08:44.840 --> 1:08:47.080 damn you, and she tells him to take it easy. 1:08:47.360 --> 1:08:49.519 He asks what she said to Roxy. She's like, I 1:08:49.560 --> 1:08:52.639 didn't say anything. Joe yells, I'm sick of you lying 1:08:52.680 --> 1:08:55.559 to me. Benson goes it's better for you. You don't 1:08:55.600 --> 1:08:58.040 need her. We're so close to getting out of here. 1:08:58.240 --> 1:09:01.080 So the phone rings again. Benson tells Tucker, I feel 1:09:01.120 --> 1:09:02.599 like Samuel Jackson should be here. 1:09:02.640 --> 1:09:04.000 This is so cinematic, you know. 1:09:05.400 --> 1:09:08.439 Benson says, tell Tucker how we're gonna do this and 1:09:08.560 --> 1:09:11.400 points to him and says, your terms, Joe. Tucker says, 1:09:11.439 --> 1:09:14.360 I got everything you want, a car, helicopter, jet, but 1:09:14.680 --> 1:09:15.839 we need something in return. 1:09:16.000 --> 1:09:16.320 Kids. 1:09:16.320 --> 1:09:19.160 He goes, no, we're going out there together and if 1:09:19.200 --> 1:09:22.800 anything happens, we're all dying. So Tucker goes, no, we 1:09:22.840 --> 1:09:25.120 need one kid. This is just how it works. You 1:09:25.160 --> 1:09:28.240 don't get everything and we get nothing. He says, fine, 1:09:28.280 --> 1:09:29.560 when we get in the car, you can have the 1:09:29.600 --> 1:09:32.479 little kid. I'm keeping my girls. I don't love that 1:09:32.520 --> 1:09:35.599 one bit. The teen starts to cry. Benson is sweaty. 1:09:36.000 --> 1:09:38.200 Joe finally realizes that they're going to take him out, 1:09:38.360 --> 1:09:40.479 aren't they. You know he has Benson they're gonna kill me, 1:09:40.520 --> 1:09:43.400 and she is giving him tips like well, if you know, 1:09:43.439 --> 1:09:46.160 if you keep your gun to my head, they're gonna 1:09:46.160 --> 1:09:49.680 try not to shoot you because they care about me, 1:09:50.120 --> 1:09:52.439 so Tucker, which I don't think she had to actually 1:09:52.439 --> 1:09:54.599 give him that advice, but I guess you know, she 1:09:54.640 --> 1:09:57.800 has to save the kids. So Tucker and another power 1:09:57.880 --> 1:10:00.080 hungry old man in charge argue about how you know 1:10:00.200 --> 1:10:01.880 how to shoot what to shoot. 1:10:02.200 --> 1:10:04.360 The power struggles. They walk off. 1:10:04.400 --> 1:10:07.639 So now Joe, the kids and Benson, I'll walk out 1:10:07.640 --> 1:10:10.600 of the garden level of the town home. Benson and 1:10:10.640 --> 1:10:12.320 the two kids are in front of Joe. Gun is 1:10:12.320 --> 1:10:14.759 on Benson's head and she is calming the kids down. 1:10:15.040 --> 1:10:17.960 The swat is surrounded and they're creeping slowly. As Joe 1:10:18.040 --> 1:10:20.240 yells for the cops to get back and get further back. 1:10:20.560 --> 1:10:22.800 The swat is getting fingers on all their triggers. They're 1:10:22.800 --> 1:10:25.400 getting ready. He wants kids in the car, and Benson 1:10:25.479 --> 1:10:28.200 wants kids to leave and make it you know about 1:10:28.280 --> 1:10:30.840 him and her and they don't need the kids, and 1:10:30.880 --> 1:10:34.280 he says, go yay, okay, So the kids run off. 1:10:34.400 --> 1:10:37.120 Tucker says, great job. I'm so happy that the kids 1:10:37.160 --> 1:10:39.439 are safe and get to like see their mom. So 1:10:39.520 --> 1:10:42.160 then he shoves Benson closer to the car, telling her 1:10:42.160 --> 1:10:44.960 to get in. She says, let me tell Tucker the plan. 1:10:45.040 --> 1:10:48.519 He goes, no, I'll do it. Then Benson spins around 1:10:48.560 --> 1:10:51.639 punches him in the head, grabs his arm and spins 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:54.880 him down and grabs the gun out, and then she's 1:10:54.920 --> 1:10:57.280 bending down to get the gun out from his arm. 1:10:57.680 --> 1:11:00.439 That's when he gets swatted down. Paw Paw, Tucker and 1:11:00.520 --> 1:11:03.400 Creasy run to her. She assures them she's okay. He's 1:11:03.439 --> 1:11:06.960 bleeding from his head on the cement. Good Finn walks 1:11:06.960 --> 1:11:10.680 over and goes he's dead. Classic Finn. Benson wants to 1:11:10.720 --> 1:11:14.120 Noah immediately he's with Lucy. They're gonna go get him. 1:11:14.160 --> 1:11:16.880 Benson turns to Tucker and says thank you. He says 1:11:16.920 --> 1:11:19.280 for what you did a great job in there. Now 1:11:19.360 --> 1:11:21.720 let's get you out of here. She says, you want 1:11:21.760 --> 1:11:27.719 to fuck no They walk off and that's dick wolf baby, 1:11:27.880 --> 1:11:29.280 and I am terrified. 1:11:28.880 --> 1:11:30.439 And I don't want to hear the real crime. 1:11:33.120 --> 1:11:36.760 Yeah, it's bad, but thank you for the recap. I 1:11:36.800 --> 1:11:39.040 feel like you made that fun. Even though that episode 1:11:39.920 --> 1:11:41.559 really puts me on edge. 1:11:41.640 --> 1:11:44.280 I actually was thinking about that the whole time. I 1:11:44.320 --> 1:11:47.040 go keep your tone up, I go, things are happening, 1:11:47.720 --> 1:11:49.599 but speak as if it's not. 1:11:49.960 --> 1:11:52.120 And I feel like I really did focus on my 1:11:52.160 --> 1:11:52.639 tone there. 1:11:53.040 --> 1:11:56.240 Yeah, we're really trying to entertain you, guys, and not 1:11:56.320 --> 1:11:57.400 just fully traumatize you. 1:11:57.560 --> 1:12:01.040 So kudos to us. You know, I snuck in some references. 1:12:01.520 --> 1:12:05.760 I've really tried. Yeah, so you didn't have to think 1:12:05.800 --> 1:12:08.719 of a teen girl getting assaulted as her brothers tied 1:12:08.800 --> 1:12:10.479 up listening, needing to pee, you know. 1:12:10.840 --> 1:12:14.639 Yeah, it's just home invasions are freaky. They just fucking are. 1:12:14.800 --> 1:12:16.439 They are one of the worst things I think that 1:12:16.520 --> 1:12:17.040 can happen. 1:12:17.200 --> 1:12:18.599 Yeah, it's all the worst things. 1:12:18.600 --> 1:12:21.559 It's like your dad's getting beat up, your mom's taken 1:12:21.600 --> 1:12:24.200 away the kid, there's a random woman showing up. 1:12:24.240 --> 1:12:25.040 Thank god, you. 1:12:25.120 --> 1:12:27.800 Can't live there again. I mean you literally gonna have 1:12:27.800 --> 1:12:29.920 to move out of that house. Like, it's just it's 1:12:30.000 --> 1:12:33.960 so many, you know, it's an invasion. But yeah, we'll 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:36.240 get into the real crime as soon as we listen 1:12:36.280 --> 1:12:38.120 to a few of these messages. 1:12:40.880 --> 1:12:41.760 And we're back. 1:12:41.960 --> 1:12:44.880 But just to piggyback off what we were just talking about, 1:12:45.160 --> 1:12:46.960 do you know this Instagram corporate erin? 1:12:47.479 --> 1:12:48.920 Yeah, I love corporate erin. 1:12:49.080 --> 1:12:51.960 Oh my god, sorry, the word piggyback just reminded me 1:12:52.320 --> 1:12:54.680 so funny. If you're not liszt Gata, listen to this 1:12:54.760 --> 1:12:55.720 character corporate erin. 1:12:56.320 --> 1:12:58.360 So No, it's really. 1:12:58.080 --> 1:13:00.400 Wild, like so much of Tiksaw and like Stram when 1:13:00.400 --> 1:13:01.960 you're on it, it's like, who is this person? Why 1:13:01.960 --> 1:13:04.960 are you talking? This is regurgion. And then there are 1:13:05.240 --> 1:13:08.880 just these creative geniuses that we get to find because 1:13:08.920 --> 1:13:11.840 of our phones that like connect millions of people across 1:13:11.840 --> 1:13:12.320 the globe. 1:13:12.439 --> 1:13:13.759 And I love that funny. 1:13:13.800 --> 1:13:16.040 And she's like, if you if you work a corporate 1:13:16.120 --> 1:13:19.440 job or you ever have this girl like absolutely nails 1:13:19.720 --> 1:13:22.519 corporate speak and it's and the tone and it's so funny. 1:13:22.760 --> 1:13:27.439 But like, my husband is a huge horror freak and 1:13:27.960 --> 1:13:29.920 there was a movie that he watched that made him 1:13:30.000 --> 1:13:31.960 faint one time about a home invasion. 1:13:32.080 --> 1:13:35.960 Like home invasions are so scary because was it the 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:36.679 Naomi watching? 1:13:36.720 --> 1:13:38.280 No, No, I think it's a French It's like, no, 1:13:38.360 --> 1:13:40.400 I think it's French or German. I'll find out the 1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:44.720 name from him. But like it's literally like just the 1:13:44.760 --> 1:13:46.800 scariest thing that someone could come into your home and 1:13:46.840 --> 1:13:50.360 then stay there for who knows how long, Like they're just. 1:13:50.320 --> 1:13:51.200 The scariest things. 1:13:51.560 --> 1:13:54.639 So there are obviously a lot of few home invasion 1:13:54.640 --> 1:13:57.400 stories that this story could be about. One of them 1:13:57.400 --> 1:14:03.639 I realized was the murder of Savus Philip Savopolis, who 1:14:03.720 --> 1:14:08.200 was a prominent Washington DC businessman. A home invader killed him, 1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:10.920 his wife, their ten year old son, and their housekeeper 1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:14.599 in Washington, d C. Just back in twenty fifteen, like 1:14:14.640 --> 1:14:17.360 six or seven months before this episode came out. So 1:14:17.439 --> 1:14:20.400 I think what happened was that I'm gonna cover the 1:14:20.439 --> 1:14:23.559 Cheshure murders today, but I think what happened was that, 1:14:23.640 --> 1:14:26.840 like this home invasion reminded everyone of that one, and 1:14:26.880 --> 1:14:29.559 I bet SVU at the time like didn't want to 1:14:29.600 --> 1:14:32.800 cover that because it was so fucking horrific. And then 1:14:32.840 --> 1:14:34.880 when this home invasion happened, they sort of did like 1:14:34.920 --> 1:14:38.320 a combo because I will say, the way that the 1:14:38.360 --> 1:14:41.559 suspect was caught in the Savopolis home invasion and murder 1:14:42.280 --> 1:14:44.960 was he left his DNA on a pizza that he ordered, 1:14:45.000 --> 1:14:47.040 and they do mention that in this episode, like what's 1:14:47.040 --> 1:14:48.000 the negotiator going to do? 1:14:48.040 --> 1:14:48.839 Bring me a pizza? 1:14:49.320 --> 1:14:51.680 And like this guy got busted through Dominoes, which I 1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:54.400 actually thought you would think was kind of funny, Lisa, 1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:57.760 but it was this I remember it happening and being like, 1:14:57.800 --> 1:14:58.160 what the. 1:14:58.120 --> 1:15:01.200 Full like because I see her no and I see. 1:15:01.320 --> 1:15:04.240 I like caught domino my eye immediately, Like if there 1:15:04.320 --> 1:15:06.800 was a word search that's like, what are the first 1:15:06.840 --> 1:15:08.479 few words you find are what your year is? 1:15:08.560 --> 1:15:11.880 Then like I saw Dominoes immediately totally. 1:15:11.960 --> 1:15:15.240 But then I didn't want to keep looking because I 1:15:15.439 --> 1:15:17.639 like to just listen. Yeah, if I don't know about 1:15:17.640 --> 1:15:20.160 a case, I'd rather listen than look at the notes. 1:15:20.240 --> 1:15:21.040 Yeah yeah yeah. 1:15:21.080 --> 1:15:23.920 So wait, so are you saying that Chesshire was so 1:15:24.000 --> 1:15:26.639 bad and then this other one happened that was bad, 1:15:26.760 --> 1:15:28.840 but like not as bad, so then they kind of 1:15:28.880 --> 1:15:29.280 were able? 1:15:29.400 --> 1:15:31.120 Is that what you're I think? I know, I mean, 1:15:31.200 --> 1:15:31.600 I think so. 1:15:31.720 --> 1:15:33.720 Like if you go to the Wikipedia for example of 1:15:33.760 --> 1:15:36.439 the Savopolis murders, there's a link to the Cheshire murders 1:15:36.479 --> 1:15:38.080 in it, you know what I mean, Like they are 1:15:38.240 --> 1:15:42.120 definitely reminiscent. I don't know. They also set the house 1:15:42.160 --> 1:15:45.479 on fire. Their similarities. But also this guy worked alone. 1:15:45.720 --> 1:15:48.960 They think his name is Darren Wint and he was 1:15:49.920 --> 1:15:54.560 you know, convicted, and it was just a really wild 1:15:54.600 --> 1:15:58.920 but also similar to the episode Sabopolis. The victim was 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:02.040 the CEO of like an iron works company, and this 1:16:02.080 --> 1:16:04.000 guy used to work for that company, kind of the 1:16:04.000 --> 1:16:06.240 way that Ralph of the episode used to be like 1:16:06.280 --> 1:16:08.080 a truck driver for the grocery store. So there's like 1:16:08.120 --> 1:16:12.360 a connection through work of like, oh, the CEO must 1:16:12.400 --> 1:16:14.200 be rich, I'm gonna go rob him, and he went 1:16:14.240 --> 1:16:17.040 to go rob him, killed his family, set the wife's 1:16:17.080 --> 1:16:18.960 Porsche on But I remember hearing about this because they 1:16:18.960 --> 1:16:21.439 were like the Porsche was on fire down this like 1:16:22.160 --> 1:16:24.880 a county away or something. I remember hearing about this 1:16:24.920 --> 1:16:26.880 story in twenty fifteen. I still lived in New York 1:16:26.920 --> 1:16:30.439 and was following, you know, everything and anything that was 1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:33.200 crime related. So I remember that, but that story is 1:16:33.200 --> 1:16:35.080 not what I'm going to cover today. I do think 1:16:35.160 --> 1:16:40.360 it jogged this. But this, this, the Chester murders are 1:16:40.439 --> 1:16:43.400 like the most notorious, if not if not one of 1:16:43.520 --> 1:16:46.360 it is the most notorious crime in Connecticut's history. And I'm, 1:16:46.400 --> 1:16:48.559 you know, from Connecticut, so I wanted to sort of 1:16:48.560 --> 1:16:51.800 cover this, and I've been very into following it in 1:16:51.840 --> 1:16:54.479 a way, like I've seen the documentary and I've read 1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:57.400 a lot about it. It's very chilling, it's very horrific, 1:16:57.479 --> 1:16:59.680 and the details are horrible to just be ready for that. 1:17:00.240 --> 1:17:03.240 So this takes place in Cheshire, Connecticut, which is less 1:17:03.240 --> 1:17:05.120 than an hour from where I grew up. It's between 1:17:05.160 --> 1:17:08.680 New Haven and Hartford, if you know cities in Connecticut. 1:17:08.200 --> 1:17:10.240 So I would have passed Cheshire. 1:17:10.360 --> 1:17:13.040 I have passed Cheshure dozens and dozens of times coming 1:17:13.040 --> 1:17:14.800 to and from college, and it's hard for me not 1:17:14.880 --> 1:17:17.599 to think of the cat. I know, I know, and 1:17:17.640 --> 1:17:20.080 you know. I played the Cheshire cat in a play 1:17:20.120 --> 1:17:23.160 when I was nine. I think we deserve a photo 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:24.120 of that on Instagram. 1:17:25.360 --> 1:17:27.200 Oh my god, I bet my mom has one. I'll 1:17:27.240 --> 1:17:28.120 see if I can find it. 1:17:28.600 --> 1:17:30.439 Yeah. I played the Chesher Cat and a little production 1:17:30.560 --> 1:17:35.680 of Alice in Wonderland. So this all happens around late 1:17:35.760 --> 1:17:38.559 July of two thousand and seven. A woman named Jennifer 1:17:38.600 --> 1:17:41.240 Hawk Pettit and her eleven year old daughter, Michaela, goes 1:17:41.240 --> 1:17:44.040 shopping to buy groceries for a dinner that Michaela's planning 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:46.679 to make for her family. This family, the Pettit family, 1:17:46.760 --> 1:17:50.720 are like a super Connecticut picture perfect family, like what 1:17:50.880 --> 1:17:55.000 you envision when you envision a family from Connecticut, and 1:17:55.080 --> 1:17:56.120 everybody loved. 1:17:55.880 --> 1:17:56.800 Them in the community. 1:17:56.920 --> 1:17:59.680 They were popular social Jennifer was formerly a nurse that 1:17:59.800 --> 1:18:02.960 ye New Haven Hospital, but then switched careers, I think 1:18:03.000 --> 1:18:04.720 to work at a school or an organization where she 1:18:04.720 --> 1:18:08.440 could work with children. And her husband was a prominent endocrinologist, 1:18:08.520 --> 1:18:09.840 doctor William Pettitt Junior. 1:18:10.080 --> 1:18:12.880 Yeah, sit here, you know, I'm an end of chronologist goer. 1:18:13.240 --> 1:18:15.120 Oh yeah, from Alara and Royd. 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:15.719 Yeah. 1:18:15.760 --> 1:18:18.760 And he ran a diabetes center I believe in central Connecticut. 1:18:18.800 --> 1:18:21.800 So like he was, you know, well known and respected. 1:18:22.120 --> 1:18:25.200 And then Jennifer, the wife, had MS and they had 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:27.639 a seventeen year old daughter as well named Haley, who 1:18:27.640 --> 1:18:30.360 had like raised money for the cause. Haley had just 1:18:30.400 --> 1:18:33.320 graduated from a private school that I'm familiar with called 1:18:33.360 --> 1:18:36.200 Miss Porters, and she was headed to Dartmouth in the fall, 1:18:36.240 --> 1:18:39.040 which is where her dad went. And Mikayla was entering 1:18:39.120 --> 1:18:40.840 sixth grade because it was the summer, so she was 1:18:40.840 --> 1:18:44.599 about to enter sixth grade at a private day school. Somehow, 1:18:44.640 --> 1:18:46.680 while they're shopping, it's like one of these things of 1:18:46.720 --> 1:18:48.920 like what if they just had gone to a different 1:18:48.920 --> 1:18:51.600 grocery store, what if you know, Like this wasn't connected 1:18:51.600 --> 1:18:54.840 in the same way as the episode and the Sabopolis 1:18:54.880 --> 1:18:58.320 case where somebody worked for somebody. Literally while they were shopping, 1:18:58.640 --> 1:19:00.880 they caught the attention of twenty six year old named 1:19:00.960 --> 1:19:04.400 Joshua comisar Jefski, and I'm gonna be saying his name 1:19:04.439 --> 1:19:07.439 a lot of times, komisar Jefski, So get ready for that. 1:19:07.800 --> 1:19:12.519 He was a lifelong criminal. He actually was adopted and 1:19:13.080 --> 1:19:16.160 was accused at a young age of sexually abusing his 1:19:16.200 --> 1:19:19.639 own sister. His first burglary was at fourteen, five years 1:19:19.680 --> 1:19:21.360 before this crime. In two thousand and two, he was 1:19:21.479 --> 1:19:24.640 arrested for eighteen home invasions. 1:19:24.360 --> 1:19:26.559 His Bilogun team. Yeah. 1:19:27.000 --> 1:19:30.559 Wow, what I found in my research was he liked 1:19:30.560 --> 1:19:33.280 to break into people's homes and then but he. 1:19:33.280 --> 1:19:35.639 Was arrested after eighteen. It wasn't like he was arrested 1:19:35.720 --> 1:19:37.360 at eighteen times for that. 1:19:37.520 --> 1:19:39.280 No, No, I think there was a string of home 1:19:39.320 --> 1:19:40.960 invasions and they led him all to him. 1:19:41.120 --> 1:19:42.960 Yes, That's why I was so shocked. 1:19:43.000 --> 1:19:45.120 I am obviously not shocked that someone could do eighteen, 1:19:45.160 --> 1:19:47.120 but I was like, why would they keep letting him out? 1:19:47.640 --> 1:19:50.040 Yeah, like you need to be yeah, you have a problem. 1:19:50.080 --> 1:19:51.879 You need him like you need an ankle monitor. 1:19:52.120 --> 1:19:54.120 But yeah, but he just but he got away with 1:19:54.200 --> 1:19:56.000 a lot, So I guess he was good at crime. 1:19:56.240 --> 1:19:58.240 Well, what I found in my research was he said 1:19:58.240 --> 1:20:00.519 he liked to break into people's homes and then listen 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:03.200 to them breathe while they slept, and he liked the 1:20:03.240 --> 1:20:05.920 feeling of violating people's privacy and their sense of safety. 1:20:06.000 --> 1:20:06.680 Like he liked that. 1:20:06.760 --> 1:20:08.679 I think that's like what gave him more of a thrill, 1:20:08.920 --> 1:20:12.320 because it's like you can case a place and rob 1:20:12.360 --> 1:20:15.040 it when people aren't home. You know, people in Connecticut 1:20:15.080 --> 1:20:17.120 are going on vacations all the time. People in every 1:20:17.160 --> 1:20:18.960 state are going on vacations. You can always rob a 1:20:18.960 --> 1:20:19.840 house when people are gone. 1:20:20.360 --> 1:20:23.439 But is he like jerking off or it's just I 1:20:23.600 --> 1:20:26.160 like it? And I'm not even at this point, he 1:20:26.360 --> 1:20:29.240 is what I've heard. I don't think exert and jerk 1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:33.800 off either. I guess you can have urges that aren't Yeah, yeah, interesting, 1:20:33.880 --> 1:20:35.040 I'm really having. 1:20:35.560 --> 1:20:37.280 I wouldn't give him all that much credit. You haven't 1:20:37.280 --> 1:20:40.400 heard the rest of the story. Uh, I'm not. I know. 1:20:40.520 --> 1:20:44.240 I'm now spiraling in a train of thought of like, 1:20:45.240 --> 1:20:47.600 you know, they obviously get a thrill from killing that 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:49.479 people like to kill serial killers. 1:20:49.560 --> 1:20:50.800 Is it always sexual? 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:54.639 But I guess no, because if you like skydiving, it's 1:20:54.680 --> 1:20:56.519 not so maybe like skydiving, and. 1:20:56.439 --> 1:20:59.559 It could just be control, which can also be sexual, 1:20:59.600 --> 1:21:01.640 but you know, doesn't have to be. It's like, you know, 1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:03.599 with Dexter, I think he liked the I don't think 1:21:03.600 --> 1:21:05.800 it was you know that he's also you know, a 1:21:05.840 --> 1:21:10.479 fictional character that we both enjoy. But Komisarjevsky was adopted 1:21:10.520 --> 1:21:12.799 and his biological family had a history of mental illness, 1:21:12.920 --> 1:21:15.880 and then according to people in this documentary that I watched, 1:21:15.960 --> 1:21:17.840 he was adopted by a family that had like no 1:21:17.920 --> 1:21:21.799 ability to handle his mental issues. He was also sexually 1:21:21.840 --> 1:21:24.400 abused and tortured by a foster brother that his parents 1:21:24.400 --> 1:21:26.599 took in at a very young age and for a 1:21:26.640 --> 1:21:30.680 long time. And you know, it's just like a recipe 1:21:30.720 --> 1:21:34.599 for him to become a criminal. I feel like he 1:21:34.680 --> 1:21:38.240 was abused. He was apparently his family was church going 1:21:38.280 --> 1:21:41.360 where he was learning that homosexuality was the sin while 1:21:41.400 --> 1:21:43.840 he was being molested, so he probably thought he was 1:21:43.880 --> 1:21:46.280 evil in some way. There's like a lot going on 1:21:46.400 --> 1:21:49.360 with this guy. And he was convicted of for the 1:21:49.439 --> 1:21:52.240 eighteen home invasions. He was convicted of twelve. He got 1:21:52.320 --> 1:21:54.680 nine years, but he was paroled in April of two 1:21:54.720 --> 1:21:57.800 thousand and seven. Just months before he spotted the Petits 1:21:57.840 --> 1:22:01.320 on this grocery shopping trip. When he was released from prison, 1:22:01.439 --> 1:22:03.479 he lived in a halfway house, which is where he 1:22:03.520 --> 1:22:07.519 met at the time Stephen Hayes, age forty four. I 1:22:07.560 --> 1:22:09.679 just want to make a note later Stephen came out 1:22:09.720 --> 1:22:13.000 as trans and now goes by Linda, so she will 1:22:13.040 --> 1:22:14.599 be referred to that way the rest of the time. 1:22:14.600 --> 1:22:17.439 I just don't want anyone to be confused, because when 1:22:17.439 --> 1:22:19.360 we think about this crime, I think we think that 1:22:19.400 --> 1:22:22.439 it was committed by two men, But Linda Hayes is 1:22:22.479 --> 1:22:26.160 a transgender woman, so Hayes. Hayes was forty four when 1:22:26.160 --> 1:22:28.280 they met at the halfway house and was a career 1:22:28.360 --> 1:22:30.920 criminal who had been arrested over thirty times from the 1:22:30.920 --> 1:22:34.160 time she was sixteen up until what happened in Cheshire. 1:22:34.520 --> 1:22:37.200 She was also sexually abused as a child, and she 1:22:37.439 --> 1:22:40.439 was sixteen years older than Komisarjevski when they met. So 1:22:41.320 --> 1:22:45.639 after Komisarjevsky spotted Jennifer and her daughter, he enlisted Hayes's 1:22:45.680 --> 1:22:47.160 help to rob their home. 1:22:47.320 --> 1:22:48.800 You know, I wonder if this is how the wet 1:22:48.840 --> 1:22:50.919 Bandits met halfway houses. 1:22:51.000 --> 1:22:52.600 I didn't you know you don't think about that. 1:22:52.800 --> 1:22:56.240 Yeah, but these and there's an SVU like the you know, 1:22:56.280 --> 1:23:00.320 the rapists in that group, they all meet together, like yeah, 1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:02.760 they meet in prison, they meet at these places and 1:23:02.800 --> 1:23:04.440 then they decide to do crimes. 1:23:04.120 --> 1:23:06.840 Together or the pick up basketball game. This is out 1:23:06.840 --> 1:23:07.360 of control. 1:23:07.600 --> 1:23:13.360 Yeah, sadly, like I think that the mother and the 1:23:13.439 --> 1:23:15.720 daughter like looked rich, and so his idea was to 1:23:15.800 --> 1:23:18.160 rob them. But also he was attracted to the eleven 1:23:18.240 --> 1:23:21.959 year old named Mikaila. Komas ar Jefski was the younger one. 1:23:22.200 --> 1:23:24.519 So the two perps texted back and forth all this 1:23:24.560 --> 1:23:27.839 stuff later that night, stuff like quote unquote, I'm chomping 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:30.280 at the bit to get started. That's something Hayes wrote 1:23:30.280 --> 1:23:32.479 to kamas ar Jefski at seven forty five that night. 1:23:33.000 --> 1:23:38.160 Also she wrote, quote Nita Margarita soon, very casual conversation. 1:23:38.600 --> 1:23:43.160 But you know, they were planning. 1:23:42.800 --> 1:23:45.120 To just rob the petits, tie the family up, and 1:23:45.120 --> 1:23:47.040 they had no plan to physically harm them. 1:23:47.520 --> 1:23:50.120 So that night, after seeing. 1:23:49.840 --> 1:23:51.960 Them at the grocery store, but technically it's the early 1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:53.840 morning of July twenty third, because he'd seen them on 1:23:53.840 --> 1:23:57.000 the twenty second, komis ar Jevsky and Hayes break in 1:23:57.120 --> 1:24:00.280 around three am. Komis Ar Jefski gets in through the 1:24:00.320 --> 1:24:03.320 basement door, where he found William Pettitt asleep in a 1:24:03.320 --> 1:24:05.719 sun room. He took a baseball bat that he found 1:24:06.080 --> 1:24:09.080 and struck Pettit multiple times. So this is a lot 1:24:09.120 --> 1:24:12.200 like the episode where they sort of disarmed the father 1:24:12.320 --> 1:24:15.640 of the house by beating him senseless and then he 1:24:15.720 --> 1:24:17.760 was tied up with zip ties and rope by both 1:24:17.800 --> 1:24:18.680 of the perpetrators. 1:24:19.000 --> 1:24:19.800 Then they tied up. 1:24:19.760 --> 1:24:21.519 The mother and the two daughters in each of their 1:24:21.520 --> 1:24:24.679 bedrooms and pillowcases were put over their heads. They searched 1:24:24.680 --> 1:24:27.520 the house for money. They found some, but they weren't satisfied. 1:24:27.960 --> 1:24:31.320 The next thing that happened weirdly is that Hayes took 1:24:31.360 --> 1:24:33.639 two gas cans from the Petit home and is seen 1:24:33.720 --> 1:24:36.719 on security footage filling them with ten dollars of gas 1:24:36.760 --> 1:24:39.719 at a local gas station. When she returned to the house, 1:24:40.120 --> 1:24:44.040 Hayes took Hawk Pettit, the mother Jennifer, to a Bank 1:24:44.080 --> 1:24:47.120 of America where he forced her to withdraw fifteen thousand dollars. 1:24:47.640 --> 1:24:51.080 Jennifer very calmly. This is like all in the documentary. 1:24:51.120 --> 1:24:54.839 There's footage of this and everything. She very calmly informs 1:24:54.880 --> 1:24:57.360 the teller that there are men holding her husband and 1:24:57.439 --> 1:25:00.720 daughters hostage back home and threatening to kill them. So 1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:03.720 the bank, the woman didn't say call nine one one 1:25:03.800 --> 1:25:05.760 or anything, she just tells them and then the bank 1:25:05.800 --> 1:25:08.880 manager calls nine one one, The Cheshire Police Department comes 1:25:08.920 --> 1:25:11.280 to the bank, then to the pet at home. During 1:25:11.320 --> 1:25:14.599 this trip to the bank, Komas ar Jefski does sexually 1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:17.600 assault Mikaela, the eleven year old, which he eventually confessed to. 1:25:17.920 --> 1:25:20.960 He also claimed he thought she was fourteen or sixteen. Again, 1:25:21.400 --> 1:25:25.200 he's so's he's a horrible, horrible criminal. But what's so 1:25:25.479 --> 1:25:29.200 fucked up and disgusting and really kind of traumatizing when 1:25:29.200 --> 1:25:31.960 you watch the documentary is that he keeps referring to 1:25:32.040 --> 1:25:35.519 Mikayla as KK, which is her family's nickname for her. 1:25:35.960 --> 1:25:38.680 And they're like, did she tell you to call him that? 1:25:38.840 --> 1:25:40.920 And he's like, no, that's like what her family calls her. 1:25:41.160 --> 1:25:44.040 Like he's sick, you know, like he just keeps going down. 1:25:44.080 --> 1:25:46.360 I went into Kk's room then I did this to KK. 1:25:46.520 --> 1:25:49.519 Like it's so gross because that's like a pet name. 1:25:49.680 --> 1:25:50.599 I didn't even know. 1:25:50.760 --> 1:25:53.559 I think he probably overheard the mom say it to her, 1:25:53.920 --> 1:25:56.120 you know, or maybe she had something in her room 1:25:56.200 --> 1:25:58.040 that had it written or something. I don't know, but 1:25:58.200 --> 1:26:00.520 like that's a nickname, and like in the doc documentary, 1:26:00.800 --> 1:26:03.519 the family members are like, how dare you like use 1:26:03.600 --> 1:26:07.040 that name? Like that's you know, that's not yours to use. 1:26:07.240 --> 1:26:09.880 And he took photos of the assault on his phone. 1:26:10.320 --> 1:26:13.720 They also later found traces of bleach on Mikaela, so 1:26:13.760 --> 1:26:16.400 they think it's possible that he tried to destroy evidence 1:26:16.479 --> 1:26:19.559 of the sexual assault. But he literally when he's describing 1:26:19.600 --> 1:26:21.839 it in his confession, he says one thing led to another, 1:26:21.960 --> 1:26:23.519 like he's sick. He thinks that this is like a 1:26:23.600 --> 1:26:26.720 romance between him and this eleven year old. Unfortunately, the 1:26:26.720 --> 1:26:29.599 cops did not just like chase down Jennifer's car from 1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:31.600 the bank, which they did have a description of, and 1:26:31.640 --> 1:26:34.479 when they got to the house, they did spend a 1:26:34.520 --> 1:26:37.759 lot of time quote unquote assessing the situation and setting 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:40.320 up a perimeter like they do in the show. And 1:26:40.760 --> 1:26:44.240 it was during this time that the perpetrators really strayed 1:26:44.240 --> 1:26:46.240 from their original plan, which was just to rob these 1:26:46.240 --> 1:26:49.479 people and not harm them. But their stories differ, so 1:26:49.600 --> 1:26:51.880 from Hayes's point of view, when she got back from 1:26:51.880 --> 1:26:54.120 the bank run with the mom, she goes, Okay, we've 1:26:54.120 --> 1:26:56.800 got the money, let's get out of here. But Koma Starjewsky, 1:26:57.080 --> 1:27:00.360 this is, according to Hayes, said, oh no, I left 1:27:00.439 --> 1:27:02.000 DNA on one of the girls, and then I had 1:27:02.000 --> 1:27:05.280 to kill her, and doctor Pettitt also died of his injuries, 1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:07.280 so now it's on you to get your hands dirty, 1:27:07.320 --> 1:27:09.559 and you have to kill the wife. None of those 1:27:09.600 --> 1:27:12.080 things are true. The daughter was not dead yet and 1:27:12.479 --> 1:27:15.599 the father had not died. So this is what Hayes 1:27:15.800 --> 1:27:19.519 says that Komas Sarjevski was doing to try to make 1:27:20.840 --> 1:27:23.720 draw her into the crime more because she says, I 1:27:23.760 --> 1:27:27.080 never wanted to kill anyone. But she also feels betrayed 1:27:27.200 --> 1:27:31.120 by Jennifer Pettit because she looks out the window and 1:27:31.120 --> 1:27:33.400 sees all these this police president and she's like, fuck, 1:27:34.240 --> 1:27:35.920 she called the cops while we were at the bank, 1:27:35.960 --> 1:27:38.879 and so she flies into a rage. She strangles Jennifer 1:27:38.880 --> 1:27:41.719 to death and then sexually assaults her after her death, 1:27:41.760 --> 1:27:45.680 which is horrible, And there's actually other information online that 1:27:45.840 --> 1:27:49.000 disputes this, But this information is from the documentary which 1:27:49.040 --> 1:27:51.000 I kind of trust the most because it's a lot 1:27:51.040 --> 1:27:53.519 of the investigators and lawyers that are involved in the 1:27:53.560 --> 1:27:57.600 actual crime giving this information. So Hayes admits to strangling 1:27:57.760 --> 1:27:59.880 and sexually assaulting Jennifer hawk Pettit. 1:28:00.240 --> 1:28:01.880 Kombus Arjewsky's side. 1:28:01.720 --> 1:28:04.400 Is that Hayes was like, Okay, we got the money, 1:28:04.520 --> 1:28:06.800 let's kill them all and burn the house down, and 1:28:06.920 --> 1:28:09.880 komas Arjewsky was like, I'm not killing anyone, and Hayes said, 1:28:09.920 --> 1:28:11.639 fuck it, I'll take care of all of them myself, 1:28:12.040 --> 1:28:14.760 And komas Arjewsky said that he said to Hayes, You're 1:28:14.760 --> 1:28:16.920 not seriously going to burn these two girls alive, are you. 1:28:17.280 --> 1:28:19.200 But then he also says that he went upstairs to 1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:21.920 their bedrooms where they were tied up and closed their 1:28:21.960 --> 1:28:25.160 doors and that it never crossed his mind to untie 1:28:25.200 --> 1:28:28.640 them to save them. If he's the one that is 1:28:28.720 --> 1:28:31.720 not the mastermind behind all this, and he claims that 1:28:31.760 --> 1:28:33.800 Hayes is the one who threw the gas around, lit 1:28:33.840 --> 1:28:37.680 the fire, and his lawyers had a neuropsychologist testify that 1:28:38.000 --> 1:28:41.080 he was unable to make quick decisions and stressful situations. 1:28:42.280 --> 1:28:44.680 Who knows, We really have no idea whose version of 1:28:44.680 --> 1:28:47.240 this story to believe, and unfortunately. 1:28:46.840 --> 1:28:48.760 Either way, they're both bad. They're both bad. 1:28:48.880 --> 1:28:52.320 Yeah, they're two deeperent damaged psychopaths, like they're equally responsible. 1:28:52.400 --> 1:28:53.439 But it's very I. 1:28:53.400 --> 1:28:56.240 Don't know what they're arguing. It's like, it doesn't even 1:28:56.240 --> 1:28:58.560 matter who the mastermind is. You both killed. 1:28:58.320 --> 1:29:01.479 People because they're both trying to not get the death penalty. 1:29:01.960 --> 1:29:04.840 So there was a lot of arguing over who was 1:29:04.880 --> 1:29:07.599 going to be who was the mastermind both the death penalty? 1:29:07.680 --> 1:29:09.439 How about that? Who made who do it? 1:29:10.640 --> 1:29:13.360 I'm against it, but yeah, this actually gets more into that. 1:29:13.479 --> 1:29:18.080 Actually honestly, so it's fucked up. They set this up. 1:29:18.080 --> 1:29:22.040 But meanwhile, let's not forget that. William Pettitt Junior the 1:29:22.080 --> 1:29:24.879 follow up, father is still in the basement, bleeding profusely 1:29:24.920 --> 1:29:27.960 from his head wounds. He's bound and he's heard his 1:29:28.040 --> 1:29:31.120 whole families. He's heard his wife's attack, and he called 1:29:31.160 --> 1:29:33.439 out to her, but one of the assailants yelled down, quote, 1:29:33.520 --> 1:29:35.080 don't worry, it's all going to be over in a 1:29:35.080 --> 1:29:35.759 couple of minutes. 1:29:35.880 --> 1:29:36.519 End quote. 1:29:36.600 --> 1:29:38.800 That's when he knew he had to escape, because he thought, oh, 1:29:38.800 --> 1:29:40.800 they're just going to murder all of us. So he 1:29:40.880 --> 1:29:43.120 did manage to break out of the basement, his ankles 1:29:43.160 --> 1:29:46.960 still bound, and he rolled himself across two yards to 1:29:46.960 --> 1:29:49.519 get help, and he was discovered yelling for help in 1:29:49.920 --> 1:29:54.280 I think a neighboring backyard. So now, after Hayes killed Jennifer, 1:29:54.680 --> 1:29:57.519 they both doused the bodies I think, and the home 1:29:57.560 --> 1:30:00.880 and gas and set it on fire. Hayley, the older daughter, 1:30:00.920 --> 1:30:03.240 had managed to escape her restraints. She ran out of 1:30:03.240 --> 1:30:05.720 the room and into the hallway, but she was found 1:30:05.760 --> 1:30:07.479 dead at the top of the staircase. They think she 1:30:07.760 --> 1:30:10.479 you know, collapsed and Haley and Michaela both died of 1:30:10.520 --> 1:30:13.920 smoke inhalation. There was accelerant found on the girl's clothes, 1:30:13.960 --> 1:30:17.080 so one or both of these monsters did pour gas 1:30:17.080 --> 1:30:20.040 directly onto them. They both had burns and it was 1:30:20.080 --> 1:30:22.439 hard to determine if they suffered pre or post mortem, 1:30:22.479 --> 1:30:24.519 but at trial it did seem like at least Haley 1:30:24.720 --> 1:30:27.040 was alive when some of the fire got to her. 1:30:27.080 --> 1:30:29.360 It's really, it's really horrific. I'm sorry, it's. 1:30:29.240 --> 1:30:31.680 Like the most horrific home invasion story pretty much of 1:30:31.720 --> 1:30:32.120 all time. 1:30:32.200 --> 1:30:34.160 Well, because when you when you were talking about the 1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:37.600 gasoline and that's kind of my brain actually went to 1:30:37.640 --> 1:30:41.000 a horrible place, but not as horrible as this. Yeah, shockingly, Yeah, 1:30:41.040 --> 1:30:43.600 I thought it was to like maybe suffocate them in 1:30:43.600 --> 1:30:46.519 the garage and so there needed to be more gas 1:30:46.560 --> 1:30:50.400 or no. This is awful, Like even though arguing about 1:30:50.400 --> 1:30:53.080 the death penalty, like they even if you're a mastermind 1:30:53.120 --> 1:30:55.880 or not, you both deserve it, Like I don't belie 1:30:55.880 --> 1:30:57.600 even if I don't, like if that's the law of 1:30:57.880 --> 1:31:01.080 that state, Like you watch someone poor gasoline or you 1:31:01.120 --> 1:31:03.200 poured the gas, Like what are we talking about here, 1:31:04.200 --> 1:31:07.080 Because even if that other one didn't pour the gasoline, 1:31:07.760 --> 1:31:10.240 then you still strangled someone in a car. 1:31:10.520 --> 1:31:15.800 Yeah, so it's fucking horrific. So it's tough because the 1:31:15.840 --> 1:31:17.679 cops do seem to be making a lot of fuck ups. 1:31:17.680 --> 1:31:20.360 But it's also like Cheshire, Connecticut is not seeing a 1:31:20.400 --> 1:31:23.920 lot of huge crimes like this, you know, so like 1:31:24.040 --> 1:31:26.599 they waited too long to answer the to get into 1:31:26.600 --> 1:31:29.320 the house setting up a perimeter. The cops also never 1:31:29.400 --> 1:31:31.720 called any firefighters, so when the like just to be 1:31:32.200 --> 1:31:34.760 just as a precaution, they could have just called firefighters. 1:31:34.960 --> 1:31:36.680 But then the fire breaks out and the cops are 1:31:36.680 --> 1:31:38.920 trying to put it out with a garden hose. Then 1:31:39.880 --> 1:31:41.920 as they see the house going up in flames, the 1:31:41.960 --> 1:31:45.880 cops see Hazen Comsarjevski jump into Jennifer's SVU and take off, 1:31:45.920 --> 1:31:48.080 which they obviously have a barricade set up. 1:31:48.439 --> 1:31:49.599 They chase them. 1:31:50.040 --> 1:31:53.160 They smashed into a police car a block away. Smoke 1:31:53.200 --> 1:31:55.120 starts to pour out of the accident, and that's when 1:31:55.200 --> 1:31:58.240 somebody calls the fire department. When both of the perps 1:31:58.240 --> 1:32:00.840 are apprehended and pulled out of the car. Are This 1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:03.800 is an interesting point that Colemis ar Jefski's lawyer's point to, 1:32:03.920 --> 1:32:06.160 but I don't know if it really means anything. Hayes 1:32:06.200 --> 1:32:08.040 gave a fake name and said she didn't know if 1:32:08.040 --> 1:32:09.920 anyone else was in the house, Like she didn't know 1:32:09.920 --> 1:32:11.840 if anyone was in the house, Like she gave a 1:32:11.840 --> 1:32:13.600 fake name, and then they were like, is anyone in 1:32:13.640 --> 1:32:15.360 the house, and she was like, I don't know. So 1:32:15.439 --> 1:32:17.680 then when Klemis ar Jefsky was questioned, he gave his 1:32:17.720 --> 1:32:19.800 real name and he goes, there's a woman in there. 1:32:19.880 --> 1:32:22.160 She's dead, I think, and her two daughters are upstairs. 1:32:22.600 --> 1:32:25.920 So Klemis ar Jefski's lawyers are trying to argue that 1:32:25.960 --> 1:32:27.679 there is proof that he had no intent to kill 1:32:27.720 --> 1:32:29.439 because he was helping the cops as soon as he 1:32:29.479 --> 1:32:34.120 got busted. So it's really wild though, because from the 1:32:34.200 --> 1:32:36.639 time the fire trucks pulled up, it had been forty 1:32:36.680 --> 1:32:39.439 minutes since Jennifer had been in front of the bank teller, 1:32:39.800 --> 1:32:44.000 so all most of the crimes against them physically happened 1:32:44.000 --> 1:32:47.920 in those forty minutes. Like the home invasion lasted seven hours, 1:32:48.280 --> 1:32:50.680 but the violence happened in this really short period of 1:32:50.760 --> 1:32:54.760 time after the bank stop. Like later during trial, when 1:32:54.800 --> 1:32:57.599 asked why the cops hesitated for so long, the town 1:32:57.640 --> 1:33:01.240 police Captain Robert Vignola said that there were no external 1:33:01.280 --> 1:33:03.000 signs of violence at the home and that there had 1:33:03.040 --> 1:33:05.080 been initial like confusion over what. 1:33:05.000 --> 1:33:05.599 Was going on. 1:33:05.800 --> 1:33:08.560 Like everybody at the time was like, kudos to the 1:33:08.640 --> 1:33:11.280 Cheshire Police Department. But then during trial it started came 1:33:11.280 --> 1:33:14.240 out that like the family almost could have been rescued, 1:33:14.320 --> 1:33:16.479 or or at least the daughters might have been rescued 1:33:16.600 --> 1:33:19.200 if they had acted quicker and been more decisive. But 1:33:19.240 --> 1:33:21.880 then it's like, when I watch this episode, you've got 1:33:21.880 --> 1:33:23.320 people in a house you don't know if they've got 1:33:23.320 --> 1:33:25.120 a gun on these girls, Like you don't know, I 1:33:25.160 --> 1:33:27.559 don't know how you just bust in and say we're here, 1:33:27.800 --> 1:33:29.840 you know, like you do have to kind of follow 1:33:29.840 --> 1:33:32.000 a protocol and set up a perimeter. But then at 1:33:32.000 --> 1:33:34.600 the same time, look at Uvalde, where like they just 1:33:34.640 --> 1:33:36.920 didn't fucking do shit and said they were setting up 1:33:36.920 --> 1:33:39.400 a perimeter and they that was the time that they 1:33:39.760 --> 1:33:41.839 could have been stopping this criminal. 1:33:41.960 --> 1:33:45.479 That's a really good point because it's like if you know, 1:33:45.600 --> 1:33:47.519 it's like they don't the cops don't have money in 1:33:47.520 --> 1:33:50.240 the bank, yeacause you and your campers like to say, 1:33:50.560 --> 1:33:53.439 like we don't give cops the benefit of the doubt, yeah, 1:33:53.960 --> 1:33:57.639 because how could you with all the evidence in front 1:33:57.680 --> 1:34:01.040 of you. So it's like if we had more trust 1:34:01.320 --> 1:34:05.040 in officers and their duties and how they you know, act, 1:34:05.400 --> 1:34:06.920 we could be like they did the right thing, They 1:34:07.040 --> 1:34:10.000 followed everything right, because that's what you need to do. 1:34:10.120 --> 1:34:11.360 And this is a terrible thing. 1:34:12.040 --> 1:34:14.559 But we know cops are fucking dumb, yeah, and don't 1:34:14.600 --> 1:34:16.000 care at their jobs. 1:34:16.320 --> 1:34:19.200 And Uvaldi is like such a fu you know what. 1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:22.040 That like left my consciousness for a moment and like 1:34:22.680 --> 1:34:25.479 that hands like the cops getting hand sanitizer and just 1:34:25.520 --> 1:34:29.599 standing there, just standing and like people not being more mad, 1:34:29.760 --> 1:34:33.240 Like how did it? That was like a situation where 1:34:33.280 --> 1:34:36.360 they heard gunfire and they weren't doing anything like in 1:34:36.400 --> 1:34:39.320 this situation, like it's just the outside of a house 1:34:39.760 --> 1:34:41.479 and they've gotten this call for a bank teller and 1:34:41.479 --> 1:34:46.920 then everything happens so fast, like in forty minutes, they combined, murdered, 1:34:47.120 --> 1:34:50.360 strangled a woman, sexually assaulted her, doused the house, and 1:34:50.400 --> 1:34:52.679 gasoline did all these things together. 1:34:53.240 --> 1:34:55.400 It was so fast. I'm I don't know if they 1:34:55.439 --> 1:34:59.040 thought and who went to get to get the gasoline? Hayes, 1:35:00.080 --> 1:35:00.840 What do people think? 1:35:00.880 --> 1:35:03.439 I mean, are there like people are split on the 1:35:03.439 --> 1:35:05.040 theory of like which who I was? 1:35:05.080 --> 1:35:07.000 I mean, I will get to the court case. Okay, sorry, no, 1:35:07.120 --> 1:35:10.320 it really is pretty split. I mean, like nobody knows. 1:35:10.479 --> 1:35:13.599 I mean, okay. So, Hayes and Klomus Arjevsky both confessed 1:35:13.640 --> 1:35:15.280 to their crimes, but they both claim the other was 1:35:15.320 --> 1:35:18.519 the mastermind. In twenty ten, Hayes gets tried first, and 1:35:18.680 --> 1:35:21.800 her defense team tried to use klomus s Arjevsky's own 1:35:21.880 --> 1:35:25.120 journals to paint him as the disturbed one who escalated 1:35:25.120 --> 1:35:28.120 the violence like and he does seem like the more 1:35:28.280 --> 1:35:32.400 dark and psychopathic one. Like the journals have like all 1:35:32.520 --> 1:35:36.720 these like rambling things about you know, the darkness and 1:35:36.760 --> 1:35:40.360 this and that, and I wanted people to feel my pain, 1:35:40.640 --> 1:35:42.960 so that my pain like you know when you see 1:35:43.000 --> 1:35:45.680 the look of pain on people's faces and this and that. 1:35:46.080 --> 1:35:48.160 But his journals were seized from his prison cell and 1:35:48.160 --> 1:35:50.200 they were read aloud at the trial by a court clerk, 1:35:50.680 --> 1:35:53.080 and he wrote shit like quote, I've been playing Russian 1:35:53.160 --> 1:35:54.960 Roulette most of my life. This time I pulled the 1:35:54.960 --> 1:35:58.920 trigger and the chamber was loaded. Exclam end quote not 1:35:59.040 --> 1:36:02.679 exclamation point, would be wild. He also called William Pettit 1:36:02.760 --> 1:36:05.519 a coward for not saving his family, and it's like 1:36:05.680 --> 1:36:08.160 you bashed his head in with a baseball bat, and 1:36:08.200 --> 1:36:09.880 it's like, if you wanted to save your family, you 1:36:09.880 --> 1:36:12.000 would have like he does that in his journals and 1:36:12.040 --> 1:36:14.880 it's really fucked up. And he also claims that Hayes 1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:17.719 is the one who escalated the violence by strangling Jennifer, 1:36:18.280 --> 1:36:21.280 but he had also committed a sexual assault on a 1:36:21.320 --> 1:36:25.200 young girl, so who knows. For the first time in 1:36:25.240 --> 1:36:29.920 Connecticut history, with this case, jurors were offered PTSD stress 1:36:29.920 --> 1:36:33.280 assistant because they spent two months seeing and hearing all 1:36:33.320 --> 1:36:36.920 of these horrific details. And the trial began in twenty ten. 1:36:36.960 --> 1:36:39.719 It ended in twenty ten. Hayes was convicted and sentenced 1:36:39.760 --> 1:36:43.200 to death. Hayes smiled when the verdict and sentencing was read. 1:36:43.320 --> 1:36:46.559 She wanted to be put to death. In twenty fifteen, however, 1:36:46.680 --> 1:36:51.160 the Connecticut Supreme Court abolished capital punishment, so their sentences 1:36:51.200 --> 1:36:55.839 were vacated and Hayes was given six life sentences. William Pettitt, actually, 1:36:56.040 --> 1:36:59.519 who is a Republican publicly spoke out for the death penalty, 1:37:00.240 --> 1:37:02.360 was pissed that these two assailants were going to avoid 1:37:02.400 --> 1:37:06.000 being put to death because he was on radio shows 1:37:06.000 --> 1:37:08.799 and doing publicity saying the death penalty is a deterrent 1:37:08.880 --> 1:37:11.920 because it puts a person who commits crimes out of 1:37:11.960 --> 1:37:15.240 the universe. Because there's proof that it's not a deterrent 1:37:15.280 --> 1:37:17.479 to people like criminals don't think about the death penalty 1:37:17.479 --> 1:37:18.400 when they're committing a crime. 1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:20.000 They're not like, what if I get the death penalty? 1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:23.400 But his point is, yeah, but that's another person who 1:37:23.439 --> 1:37:26.080 commits crimes being put out off the streets. But I 1:37:26.120 --> 1:37:29.960 think that's also what prison does. So the following year, 1:37:30.360 --> 1:37:34.080 twenty eleven, is Coomas s Arjewski's trial. He's convicted, also 1:37:34.160 --> 1:37:36.920 sentenced to death. His sentence is also commuted to life 1:37:36.960 --> 1:37:40.240 in prison in twenty fifteen, and this fucker, I mean, 1:37:40.320 --> 1:37:42.840 Hayes at least was like, it's over for me. I 1:37:42.840 --> 1:37:44.719 don't want to put this family through anything else. 1:37:44.920 --> 1:37:45.439 I'm good. 1:37:46.680 --> 1:37:49.720 Komas Arjevsky tried to appeal and appeal and each one 1:37:49.760 --> 1:37:52.080 got rejected, and he even tried to get to the 1:37:52.120 --> 1:37:54.200 Supreme Court and they just they declined. 1:37:53.880 --> 1:37:54.519 To hear the case. 1:37:55.080 --> 1:37:57.760 This case definitely made a mark on Connecticut law. Like 1:37:57.840 --> 1:38:01.240 one week after the crime, Governor Jody Well ordered electronic 1:38:01.320 --> 1:38:05.160 monitoring of parole burglars that September, just a couple months later, 1:38:05.200 --> 1:38:08.479 she banned parole for violent offenders and ordered review of 1:38:08.560 --> 1:38:11.559 convicts already on parole. And in two thousand and eight, 1:38:11.640 --> 1:38:14.080 she signed a forty three page bipartisan crime bill in 1:38:14.080 --> 1:38:17.120 which home invasion became a new class of crime that 1:38:17.280 --> 1:38:19.439 came with a prison sentence of up to twenty five years. 1:38:20.200 --> 1:38:25.960 So definitely made its mark in Connecticut law wise. So 1:38:26.120 --> 1:38:30.960 home invasions are punished more harshly. William Pettitt, the sole survivor, 1:38:31.120 --> 1:38:33.160 never went back to working as a doctor and instead 1:38:33.200 --> 1:38:37.160 worked on running his family's foundations. In August of twenty twelve, 1:38:37.200 --> 1:38:40.960 he remarried someone named Christine, who was a volunteer with 1:38:41.000 --> 1:38:44.120 the Pettitt Family Foundation, and in twenty sixteen he ran 1:38:44.200 --> 1:38:46.640 and was elected as the Connecticut state representative in the 1:38:46.640 --> 1:38:48.920 Connecticut General Assembly. So she was in the House of 1:38:48.960 --> 1:38:52.839 Representatives for Connecticut, and in twenty nineteen, in a jailhouse 1:38:52.920 --> 1:38:56.120 interview with a podcast, Hayes revealed she was transgender and 1:38:56.200 --> 1:39:00.760 was undergoing hormone therapy to transition. Hayes said, quote, I'm 1:39:00.760 --> 1:39:04.360 a transgender. I was diagnosed at sixteen with sexual identity disorder. 1:39:04.400 --> 1:39:06.519 My family never acknowledged it and it was never. 1:39:06.360 --> 1:39:08.000 Treated end quote. 1:39:08.400 --> 1:39:12.360 So I was reading a lot of information about trans 1:39:12.360 --> 1:39:17.000 services in jails, and I think it probably various states 1:39:17.000 --> 1:39:19.479 to state, but what I was reading was that there 1:39:19.680 --> 1:39:22.360 is like gender dysphoria treatment that you can go through, 1:39:22.400 --> 1:39:24.080 like hormones and stuff like that, but they won't do 1:39:24.280 --> 1:39:27.400 gender reassignment actually in prison, like that won't be covered, 1:39:27.640 --> 1:39:30.639 but there is thousands of dollars for each inmate worth 1:39:30.680 --> 1:39:34.880 of gender dysphoria treatment. And I believe that there was 1:39:34.960 --> 1:39:38.800 actually a high percentage of numbers of inmates who identify 1:39:39.240 --> 1:39:42.799 as transgender. But I don't think they get moved. 1:39:43.000 --> 1:39:45.000 It is wild that it took something like this to 1:39:45.080 --> 1:39:47.479 ban parole for violent offenders. 1:39:48.760 --> 1:39:52.799 Yeah, but I do believe in parole. 1:39:52.880 --> 1:39:56.559 I Nah, maybe it's like a three strikes I don't 1:39:56.600 --> 1:39:59.960 really know how it should go. But when Hayes did 1:40:00.120 --> 1:40:02.840 the podcast, she still used the name Stephen, but I 1:40:02.880 --> 1:40:05.880 believe now uses the name Linda, and at the time, 1:40:06.040 --> 1:40:09.280 like never said anything about pronouns. But Hayes is incarcerated 1:40:09.280 --> 1:40:13.120 in Pennsylvania, as is Colmus sar Jevski. They're in separate prisons. 1:40:13.720 --> 1:40:16.519 But in this New York Times article, they talked to 1:40:16.560 --> 1:40:20.040 a spokesperson for the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections and said 1:40:20.080 --> 1:40:22.200 that she couldn't comment on a specific inmate, but that 1:40:22.240 --> 1:40:24.919 there were two hundred and twenty two self reported transgender 1:40:24.960 --> 1:40:28.120 person's in state correctional institutions, and that they don't pay 1:40:28.160 --> 1:40:31.680 for gender affirmation surgeries, but they spend sixty thousand a 1:40:31.800 --> 1:40:34.240 year and up to six hundred per inmate for medication 1:40:34.320 --> 1:40:37.479 and treat inmates who have gender dysphoria, and so I 1:40:37.479 --> 1:40:41.200 thought that was interesting, like she is getting treatment for this, 1:40:41.360 --> 1:40:44.280 but she will not be moved probably to a female prison. 1:40:44.720 --> 1:40:46.760 And I don't know that that's even something that she's 1:40:46.800 --> 1:40:51.320 trying to have done. But and so that is that 1:40:51.960 --> 1:40:58.240 it is so horrific, but you know there is a foundation. 1:40:58.840 --> 1:41:00.400 And well I'm going to talk about this and sister 1:41:00.479 --> 1:41:04.640 peg so but I felt I had to bring it 1:41:04.680 --> 1:41:05.240 to your ears. 1:41:05.280 --> 1:41:08.519 Everybody. All right, Well, we don't have a guest, so 1:41:09.080 --> 1:41:10.240 I guess. 1:41:10.000 --> 1:41:12.920 Now guests, so let's just sail into this post forum 1:41:13.600 --> 1:41:19.479 on a river of blackness. So, as we mentioned earlier, 1:41:19.720 --> 1:41:22.800 no guests today, but we will just hop right into 1:41:22.800 --> 1:41:23.960 that post mortem. Baby. 1:41:24.080 --> 1:41:27.559 I mean, obviously, don't get addicted to drugs, don't do drugs. 1:41:27.720 --> 1:41:30.360 No, and like such a dark episode. I remember like 1:41:30.439 --> 1:41:32.240 being like, oh my god, this episode is so dark 1:41:32.240 --> 1:41:34.080 and I knew it right away. It was based off 1:41:34.080 --> 1:41:37.240 the Cheshure murders because you know, Connecticut crimes are close 1:41:37.280 --> 1:41:40.280 to my heart and I don't know this one. 1:41:40.479 --> 1:41:41.839 The one home invasions. 1:41:41.880 --> 1:41:44.320 We obviously already discussed how that's scary, but like, yeah, 1:41:44.320 --> 1:41:48.640 anytime where a child is being assaulted or torture or 1:41:48.720 --> 1:41:54.160 hurt in front of family. Yeah, as an added layer 1:41:54.240 --> 1:41:56.600 of sad that I don't enjoy. 1:41:56.880 --> 1:41:59.040 Right, But it's just like I don't know. 1:41:59.080 --> 1:42:01.559 This episode, like the real crime, really got me thinking 1:42:01.560 --> 1:42:05.240 about just like how one thing can change in two seconds. 1:42:05.240 --> 1:42:06.760 Like if those two guys had not been at the 1:42:06.760 --> 1:42:08.880 same halfway house, would this have happened? If one of 1:42:08.880 --> 1:42:13.240 them hadn't spotted Mikila in the supermarket, would it have happened? Like, 1:42:13.280 --> 1:42:16.639 you know, just the whole randomness of like people crossing 1:42:16.720 --> 1:42:20.080 paths and how it can go so fucking wrong, and like, yeah, 1:42:20.160 --> 1:42:22.080 they both acted like that's not how they wanted the 1:42:22.160 --> 1:42:22.519 day to go. 1:42:22.680 --> 1:42:24.600 But it's like, but then who made it go that way? Like, 1:42:24.680 --> 1:42:26.040 I don't know, It's well. 1:42:25.840 --> 1:42:28.440 I think that's also the thing when people like idolize 1:42:28.479 --> 1:42:33.519 these killers and are like, ugh, evil geniuses, and it's like, no, 1:42:33.600 --> 1:42:36.479 they're evil and dumb too, Yeah, Like they're panicked, they're dumb, 1:42:36.600 --> 1:42:38.800 they don't know what to do, Like we have to 1:42:38.800 --> 1:42:40.560 stop giving them credit. 1:42:40.840 --> 1:42:43.679 Right right, I mean I'm trying to think, like who's 1:42:43.720 --> 1:42:46.439 the last evil genius serial killer people were into? Like 1:42:46.479 --> 1:42:48.599 people were upset, I mean people are obsessed with Dahmer. 1:42:48.680 --> 1:42:50.559 Okay, so I didn't watch Dahmer, and I had no 1:42:50.640 --> 1:42:52.960 interest to watch Dahmer, but I watched clips of the 1:42:53.000 --> 1:42:58.200 actor and like a Hollywood reporter round table and impressed 1:42:58.280 --> 1:42:58.760 with him. 1:42:59.080 --> 1:43:01.320 Oh, Evan Peters, he's very good. He said. 1:43:01.360 --> 1:43:03.720 He walked around with like weights in his hand to 1:43:03.840 --> 1:43:06.479 practice to get this the walk down, because the guy 1:43:06.600 --> 1:43:11.839 stood weird and like that. I admire that sort of preparation. Yeah, 1:43:11.840 --> 1:43:13.720 and so a part of me wants to kind of 1:43:13.800 --> 1:43:16.320 see that. And one of the ladies that was the 1:43:16.400 --> 1:43:19.200 meanest to us that we've ever interviewed, she's in that, 1:43:19.640 --> 1:43:22.160 so I kind of want to pay homage to her. 1:43:24.560 --> 1:43:30.000 I'd like to see her at her finest as well. Listen, No, 1:43:30.080 --> 1:43:32.120 the real crime is even worse. Like I was just 1:43:32.360 --> 1:43:34.800 still horrified and stuck on the episode that when you 1:43:34.880 --> 1:43:37.519 just started talking about the real crime, I was like huh, 1:43:37.560 --> 1:43:39.559 and then I went, oh my god, yeah, I forget that. 1:43:39.840 --> 1:43:41.160 Yeah, it's like. 1:43:41.320 --> 1:43:44.320 And the burning of it all, Like yes, it's like 1:43:44.320 --> 1:43:46.719 what we were talking about before. Though, It's like these 1:43:46.760 --> 1:43:52.799 smaller towns like they're just not ready for massive SVU 1:43:52.960 --> 1:43:56.880 level crimes happening. You know, like these cops in this 1:43:56.920 --> 1:43:59.240 little town were just like setting up a perimeter while 1:43:59.280 --> 1:44:02.600 all this was going down, and like, you know, it 1:44:02.800 --> 1:44:05.360 feels like the training was not there. 1:44:05.160 --> 1:44:08.559 Well not even training the bravery well. 1:44:08.400 --> 1:44:10.120 Right, but like some of these guys can be on 1:44:10.160 --> 1:44:12.040 the force for forty years in these towns and probably 1:44:12.080 --> 1:44:14.360 never like never deal with the murder, you know. So 1:44:14.920 --> 1:44:16.800 I don't know, is it bravery or like if you're 1:44:16.920 --> 1:44:18.960 if your guy is telling you, if your captain is 1:44:18.960 --> 1:44:22.280 telling you set up a perimmer. The whole structure of 1:44:22.360 --> 1:44:24.799 the military the police is like listen to your boss, 1:44:24.840 --> 1:44:27.840 like the top guy or whatever, right, like fall in line. 1:44:27.840 --> 1:44:29.400 It's ego, Like that's the thing. 1:44:29.520 --> 1:44:32.840 Like we talk about toxic masculinities so much, right, actually 1:44:32.840 --> 1:44:35.320 I don't think we do, but not like. 1:44:37.120 --> 1:44:39.320 I don't think we've ever mentioned it. I even never 1:44:39.400 --> 1:44:41.559 talked about it. We've talked about it. 1:44:41.720 --> 1:44:45.800 Yeah, but it's this thing of like, you know, the 1:44:46.320 --> 1:44:48.960 super masculine things where you have to be like the 1:44:49.000 --> 1:44:53.200 most masculine like military. Like you said, it's like, but 1:44:53.280 --> 1:44:58.400 the flaws of masculinity affect you guys negative, like you know, 1:44:58.439 --> 1:45:00.160 if they just let a let of a little bit 1:45:00.160 --> 1:45:03.160 of their ego go you know shit like that, Yeah, 1:45:03.280 --> 1:45:06.559 or like there's just certain stuff where I just keep 1:45:06.640 --> 1:45:08.519 thinking about the guy from conn Air. But it's like 1:45:09.240 --> 1:45:12.800 there are just some qualities that I wish instead of 1:45:12.920 --> 1:45:16.760 hyping up the masculine, they like chilled it out to 1:45:16.960 --> 1:45:18.920 like catapult and do better. 1:45:19.200 --> 1:45:21.960 I don't know, Yeah, well, I mean it was MEGHI 1:45:22.040 --> 1:45:23.920 me think too about Jeffrey Dahmer when we were talking 1:45:23.920 --> 1:45:25.360 about it. It's like, what if his parents had just 1:45:25.400 --> 1:45:27.720 been okay with him being gay? Like what if that 1:45:27.840 --> 1:45:30.360 had happened? You know, like I wonder if you would 1:45:30.400 --> 1:45:34.040 have turned into what he turned into, you know, nature 1:45:34.120 --> 1:45:35.080 versus nurture though. 1:45:35.000 --> 1:45:35.479 Who knows. 1:45:36.880 --> 1:45:40.000 Yeah, anyway, shall we get into our what would Sister 1:45:40.000 --> 1:45:40.360 Peg Do? 1:45:40.439 --> 1:45:43.759 Shall we move it along? Yeah? We do a segment 1:45:43.840 --> 1:45:44.400 every week. 1:45:44.479 --> 1:45:46.800 If this is your first time listening to the podcast, 1:45:47.240 --> 1:45:49.280 What would Sister Peg Do? Is our weekly segment where 1:45:49.280 --> 1:45:52.439 we direct you to an organization, an article, a book, 1:45:52.520 --> 1:45:55.120 a blog, another podcast episode, something to give you more 1:45:55.320 --> 1:45:58.360 info about what we talked about today, or possibly donate 1:45:58.400 --> 1:46:01.400 your time or money. And we wanted today to highlight 1:46:01.439 --> 1:46:05.479 the Pettit Family Foundation, the family from Cheshire. Who you 1:46:05.479 --> 1:46:09.680 know obviously endured this horrific crime. The father set up 1:46:09.680 --> 1:46:13.599 a foundation to honor the memories of Jennifer Haley and MICHAELA. 1:46:13.600 --> 1:46:16.880 Pettit by continuing the kindness, idealism, and activism that define 1:46:16.880 --> 1:46:19.640 their lives. The foundation's funds are given to foster the 1:46:19.760 --> 1:46:22.680 education of young people, especially women in the sciences, to 1:46:22.760 --> 1:46:25.080 improve the lives of those affected by chronic illness, and 1:46:25.120 --> 1:46:28.280 to help protect those affected by violence. They host fundraising 1:46:28.280 --> 1:46:30.720 events like golf tournaments, five k road races, you know, 1:46:30.760 --> 1:46:32.960 et cetera. 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