WEBVTT - It Could Happen Here Weekly 65 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.680 Hey, everybody, Robert Evans here, and I wanted to let 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.359 you know this is a compilation episode. So every episode 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.399 of the week that just happened is here in one 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:13.240 convenient and with somewhat less ads package for you to 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:15.760 listen to in a long stretch if you want. If 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:17.720 you've been listening to the episodes every day this week, 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:19.919 there's gonna be nothing new here for you, but you 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:31.680 can make your own decisions. Sacred twenty three extremely extremely exciting. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.200 It's finally, finally two thousand twenty three. That means only 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.159 funny things can happen this year. That's your intro to 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:46.440 the That's right. Welcome, Welcome to Christ, buddy. I want 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:51.440 to hear any criticism welcome to happen here? Well, I 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.519 don't know if I'm gonna say they're welcome, but it 0:00:53.720 --> 0:01:02.480 is good, good work. Enjoy your year of discord um 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.200 as if any year of the last, like ten, has 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.400 not been a year every every year previously was totally 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:14.319 normal and not chaotic. Downhill from here. First off, welcome, 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:19.200 welcome back. We we love some of you. Probably presumably 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.080 I haven't met you any of the ones that I love, 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.320 but I assume that you're out there, how's everybody doing? 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:30.039 How's everyone's New year? Absolute slap in the face to 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.400 anyone you've met on any of your live events. That's 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:36.240 a fair so nice to meet you. Thank you for 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:43.200 coming in person. Also, fuck you that this whole episode 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.920 is a series of slaps to the face, because it's 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:49.560 not for us. We're lying. We're all lying to them. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.280 Who knows if we make it that far today we're 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:57.280 recording this on December two? And what is it? What 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.320 has happened today? Friends? Also? Who are you? Who was 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.520 on this episode? Garrison's here? As I've already spoken into 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:09.120 the microphone. Who else has spoken into the microphone? Sreen? 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:17.320 Question Mark? Now you have Sophie? Sophie? Yeah, James? Oh? 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.040 Any one left? Oh? No, Mia, I don't. I don't 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.360 think I've actually spoken into this episode yet. So now 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:31.880 I have. You've started the day? Didn't So that's how 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:37.480 you introduced a post. Incredibly awkward. It was perfect, magnificent, 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.040 as if we had never done a podcast. But before 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.839 we get to this, to some of the que days 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.680 of what has happened today when we're recording it? Oh, well, 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.280 today is the day? Is the one day anniversary? Of 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:53.440 me showing Garrison. The movie Strange Days written by James Cameron. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:59.400 Um a New Year's classic. Such a good movie. Not 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.680 seen it? Oh you gotta you gotta watch it? It 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.200 is Robert got alert on his phone. That was just 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:10.880 like Memory is one year, a lot of day one day, 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.200 a lot of violence against the l A p D 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:19.520 in that film. Today, that's what's happened has happened? Yeah, 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.000 definitely not a pro l a p D movie. Also, 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.280 you you get to repeatedly see a couple of now 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.440 prominent actors, oh faces um, which is which is great 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:37.280 in a slightly problematic context, deeply problematic context, but a 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:41.480 good movie anyway. What actors are in this movie? What's his? 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.920 What's his? Ralph Find? Yeah, Ralph find is the main character, 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:50.600 and he looks exactly like ten years ago Bradley Cooper. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.839 Bradley Cooper in this movie. So don't insult Ralph. Don't 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:59.480 do that. They both that's what? Okay, Well that's Crol 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:05.160 he's great. And Angela Bassett is fucking incredible in it. Queen. Yeah. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:15.320 Tom Sizemore is present in the movie. Alright, Well, my 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:20.080 favorite is Vincent din Afrio. Looks exactly like Tim Heidecker's character, 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.000 and that I think you should leave sketch where they're 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:26.240 at the UFO themed restaurant. It's it's uncanny, um, know 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.760 that you're still doing uh. I think you should leave 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:35.160 references in the Lord's act. I showed my family before 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.120 before they left to go see other family for Christmas. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.040 I sat, I set my family down to watch the 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:45.560 second half of season two and magnificent. Yeah, it's designed. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.159 And that that leads into my only prediction for the 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:56.800 next year, which is, oh, God, come on, all right, 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:00.680 who's what's the first question? Then? Well, so the bitches 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.560 want to know, Um, in an alternate universe where it 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.080 could happen here, has a corporate office, does the staff 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.599 get a Robert Evans book for holiday presence or a 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.240 gift card? And we can we can actually answer this 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:17.720 because despite not having a corporate office, there's still there 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.880 still was a holiday gift which I have not actually 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.320 received mine yet, so I can't say what mine is, 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.600 but I know other people have received There's I don't know, Sophie, 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:33.440 I ordered yours for well, well, Sophie, you know, sometimes 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.760 it would be like that. Tracking Its probably gonna be yes, 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.480 so if you're about to ruin some ups drives day? 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.760 But what did what did everyone else receive for their 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:47.560 will be delivered by pm? Today? Out for today? There 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.599 there you go. It's okay, Garrison. I didn't get shipped either. 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:56.360 Oh oh, did buy you something that hasn't come yet? Devastatingly? 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.200 What did? What did? What did everyone else get for 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.400 for their holiday? Was it a Robert Evans book? No, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:08.440 it wasn't. God, oh my god, imagine you're that fucked up, 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:17.400 that unhanged that you're like I should by The second 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.479 job I ever had, which was our third job, I guess, 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.120 which was working for this accountant guy that's like like that. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.280 He was like right, He was a retirement like an 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.880 advisor guy. He would help old people get their money 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.320 in order to retire. It was mostly like helping him 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.200 host events at like a Texas roadhouse where we would 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.680 try to get old people to buy annuities. But um, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:41.400 so I worked for this guy. In the day I 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.200 started the job, he gave me a copy of his 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.880 self published novel Operation night Watch, which was about a 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.159 group of Navy seals going rogue to stop drug dealers 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.760 and is one of the worst things I've ever read 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.640 read it. I mean I attempted to someone when I 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.960 mentioned did it once on the show. Somebody found and 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:08.800 bought a copy and give that money to someone else. Oh, 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.280 he can't be alive anymore. There's no way he said 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.400 it was. It was probably all eBay or something. Yeah, yeah, 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.560 yeah that that man has been dead for years. I'm 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.840 sure we still we still have ant, we still have 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:22.680 answer here. We've got tiny cans mace to to a 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.400 little personal maces on for the left hand one for 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.880 the right hand wield. I really like it. It's very compact. 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.280 New pepper spray has been on my tabiles for like 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.600 months because mine was expired like a year ago. But 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.240 I've never actually bought in one, and so it was 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.120 perfect and that was just so tiny. I can put 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:39.880 it in like my Fannie pack and just continue on 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.480 my days. How do you know it won't work if 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.840 it's expired. I just poked it up. I looked it 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.400 up and I was just like, I don't want to like, 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.600 I don't know, I just it was on my tables. 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.320 I obviously didn't buy it, and it wasn't like you 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.440 don't want to hurt somebody with expired pepper spray. It's 0:07:55.000 --> 0:08:00.720 a propellant that expires. Yeah, can itself gets like make yourself? Yeah, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:06.440 got it? Yeah, yeah, well there you go, there you go. Um, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.880 let's see, so we're going to be going through some 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.520 of the questions that we got for the previous Sorry, 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.720 my cats are making as I do like a that. 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.360 But that person really thought that. Robert was that person 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:22.720 that was like, hey, happy holidays, here's my book. I 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:28.880 do get the royalties. You're welcome. We should we should 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.480 use the corporate cards to buy more copies of my book. 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.480 That's a good idea. Before we could just ship them 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.600 to the sea. Though it doesn't matter where they go. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:44.600 For the next question, and we're using the questions from 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.439 the previous it could happen in your livestream for this, 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.640 by the way, So if we didn't get to your question, 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.920 we're getting to some more of them right now. Unless 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:56.920 your questions sucked, Yeah, yeah, very personal. Yes, that's that's 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:02.079 that's what I meant by sucked. So do you know 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.560 of a way to get involved in mutual aid without 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.800 using social media? I don't really use it for mental 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.840 health reasons. Good decision there to not use social media. 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.319 Social media yea. Um, a lot of mutual aid organizing 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.800 or you know, like requests happen on social media. UM. 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:23.040 But I mean there's I guess it depends on how 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.560 you use social media. I suppose like it might be 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.280 useful to have a friend that follows some of the 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.040 some of the social media stuff in your local area, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:37.319 whether that be on Twitter or mastered on or Instagram. Um, 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.120 and then you can like relay relate to you if 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.120 there's local events um, or you can just like section 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.240 off like once a week you check on just a 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.040 few of those things, and then you then you delete 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.400 the app from from your phone again. UM. Because once 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.880 you are like plugged into a local community, then people 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.480 can just like directly send you flyers and stuff. UM. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.640 But you have to have those connections there in the 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.040 first is. And those connections are really best made by 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.360 going to things on the ground, whether it be you know, 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.160 a food not bombs type thing, whether it be you know, 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.680 like a clothing swap. Um. Lots of local events do 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.280 happen in in in people's cities, and once you actually 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.920 go there in person, that's where real community actually gets built. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.440 So it's it's just it's just it's kind of just 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.440 breaking the ice to actually get to actually go to 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.800 a few in person things and then and then people 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.240 can send you, you know, direct fires and stuff. If 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:30.400 you don't want to be doom scrolling well looking for things, 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.360 you don't have to even have an account if you 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.679 don't decide not to. You can like view profiles on 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.760 Twitter and Instagram without an account. That you can't like 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.280 see the comments or whatever. But if you just want 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:42.880 to see their profile every once in a while and 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:44.800 check in on what they're doing, you can do that 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:49.439 online with no account. Yeah, often as well, like and well, 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.080 we're doing mutulate things here. It tends to focus on 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.520 the border a lot or on the house people, and 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:58.079 like in both cases you can just show up and 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.960 you'll meet someone who's helping get in most instances, and 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.760 then they can direct you and they can text you 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.400 or signal you whatever. Like, there were tons of people 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.600 when the migrant caravan arrived who were like much older, 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.960 not on social media, often with church groups, and they 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.360 didn't hugely like have um I would say, a lot 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.520 of experience in that kind of area, but they deeply 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.480 wanted to help and they showed up and people were like, hey, 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:21.880 can you go to costco and get this and they 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.679 want to Yeah, absolutely, and yeah and we use what's happened? 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.840 It was fine, and like check around. Another option to 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:29.480 be obviously if if you if you have like like 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.840 a radical meeting space in your city, you can check their. Um. 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.440 If you don't have those, you can even check see 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:40.520 if there's any like radical coffee shops or cafes that 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.120 maybe have like a bulletin board. People will often put 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.400 up flyers for stuff there. Um, just you really have 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.560 to do start start trying to be like plugged into 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.079 your actual like I r L local community and that's 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.720 generally how that goes. Um, you have to be more 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.400 proactive than if you had social media is the main thing. 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.720 You still have to show up either way, right, Like yeah, 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.600 and do you know who else wants you to show 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:10.600 up online? Robert Evans, I don't these products and services 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:14.440 that want you to. We're now exclusively only sponsored by 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:20.720 Robert's books. Yes, and here's an excerpt. All right, and 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.960 we're back speaking of the Internet. Robert or anyone I suppose, 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.760 do you think there's a way to get back to 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:32.959 fulfilling the promise of the early Internet Uh No, Um, 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:36.080 I don't. I think the early Internet was a thing 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.839 that happened that in part was the way that it 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.760 was because our brains did not have any kind of 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:49.640 tolerance or or or like we're not like prepared for it, um, 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:53.600 and it it kind of grew up as we became 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:58.000 capable of like I don't know, like the the the 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.319 Internet grew more social as we got used to it. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.400 And I don't think that can ever happen again, like 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:11.160 those those weird little moments where I don't know. Yeah, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.199 my my answer is no, I don't think it will 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.600 ever happen again, in the same way that like you're 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.680 never going to get those weird little moments that you 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.480 you had, like the birth of you know, the printing 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.079 press or whatever. Like you know, it's a unique moment 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:29.280 in history and it's never going to come again. Which 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:33.320 doesn't mean that something else won't happen. Um, But the 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:37.040 Internet is not Like the fact that we've all lived 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.559 through the social media area means even once all these 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.480 companies go bust, our brains have still been changed by 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.320 them too much to ever go back to posting the 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.840 way we once did. No, we're too far gone. I 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.440 think on a kind of similar note, in a few 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.920 days we have an episode from Andrew on digital commons 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.240 and this that kind of involves around this same kind 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.559 of question. So in a few days will have will 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.800 have an episode kind of about this topic ran by 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.920 Andrew Um. But James, you had you had something? Yeah, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.439 Sometimes like obviously, like the Internet is terrible in many ways, 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.840 but like when we talk about like what happened in Myanma, 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.200 that series Robert and I did, like that seems to 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.719 me like it's delivering on some of the promises of 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.480 the early Internet. Like it's it's mad that you know, 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.800 a young person like who is facing a coup and 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.800 wants democracy in this part of Asia can go online 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:34.200 speak to some dude in these aren't real place like 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.040 people are spoken to about like some some guy in 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.240 his garage in Ohio who's three ly printing guns, and 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.600 that person can help the other person on themselves and 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.760 defend their right to choose who governs them or if 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.800 they're governed at all, Like that is really fucking cool, 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.560 and that doesn't happen without the Internet, And so yeah, 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.920 there's also yeah, it's it's not that there's not going 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.000 to be good things done with the Internet, or that 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:58.960 it can't be made better but it's never going to 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:04.440 be what it was. Yeah, we we simply know too much. Um, 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:09.600 let's see what are some inspiring recent examples of cooperation 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.360 increasing survival odds to show the type that thinks they 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:17.760 just need AMMO to survive. Another good touchstone with for 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:24.360 this would be the movie trimmers Um, which which shows unfortunately, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:31.560 actually he's survival player. Nobody lives with that community unfortunately unfortunately. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.360 I think Rabbit actually is correct here. More broadly, this 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.280 person is like and couch sleep paraphrasing kokin right, but 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.600 like we have all just lived through a pandemic and 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.640 me are stilling through a pandemic I guess which has 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.320 changed the world killed hundreds of thousands, millions of people. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.080 And like the reason a lot of people got through that, 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.360 A lot of people who didn't weren't able to work 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.040 or were immuno compromised, you can got as much is 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.240 because other people helped them. Like no one shot COVID 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.960 and no one fed themselves in the lockdown because they 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.040 had tons of five five six talked away like a 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.480 ton of mutual aide. Happened a lot of a terrible 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.240 ship happened as well, but that's a bigger example. I think, 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.960 mm hmm, what genres of music have each of you 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:21.200 been listening to lately? M I'm a big classical head. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:26.000 I don't care if it's like I. I also listened 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.080 to a lot of classical the best. When you're driving, 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:32.120 everything becomes like cinematic and it's calming, and sometimes words 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:36.320 distract me. So my go too is classical to what 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:40.200 I would consider classical music, which is second and third 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:46.120 wave SCAH basic basically the only classical music in my opinion. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:50.840 I listened to the Clash Suade and the Manics, Ree 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.040 Preacher is more or less exclusively. Yeah, they're the only 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.920 bands that matter. Yeah, I think if it's not classical, 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.880 I'm trying to like the I don't know, I'm like 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.080 dancing around. So it's either like it's like two extremes 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.879 for me, either classical and I'm like chill, going to sleep, 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.800 or I'm getting ready and I want to feel something. 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.360 What about you, man? I have the most absolutely dogship 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:19.560 music case Brave, but the music that I listened to 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.440 it I think it's legitimately good. That's not like power 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:26.600 metal or like weird ship is I've I've been going 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:31.040 back to like my Youth and my Youth is a 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:37.320 combination of like surf rock. I was like, this is 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:45.320 a safe space, like what okay, like Pat Pat Benatar 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.960 sort of like that that there's a sort of era 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.040 of like I don't know what you care like lesbian 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.359 glam rock, I don't know yourself. This is a safe space. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.639 You keep saying that. I don't think we ever agreed 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.760 to this. I usually listened to a lot of music, well, 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.960 writing and researching. I just finished up to two pretty 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.800 big writing projects. I've been listening to a lot of music. Um, 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:17.960 most of it's like ambient electronica. Uh, some classicals thrown 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:19.359 in there if I need to get a little bit 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:23.120 more like energy, but listening to some Trent Resiner kind 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:29.240 of ambient stuff, um and like a lot of I 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.320 also listened to a lot of remixes of the Mario 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:39.320 Galaxy soundtrack. Okay, okay, s O, I like that. Wait, okay, okay, okay, 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:40.960 all right, I need to I need I need to 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:48.800 plug a truly awful song. Don't no, no, no no, 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.760 we got it. Okay, look, Donkey Kong has to slam 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:53.879 this way, it has to be this way, X space 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.840 Jam x d k Rap. I need I need to 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:01.040 know that this exists, is there's there's is incredible. It 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.879 is another worldly experience that's also a version of it. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:11.520 That's also what mean angel? Okay, I think this Garrison. 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:13.960 Do you listen to Max Richter? I think he was 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:15.840 like Max Richter, He's like he has a lot of 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:18.080 soundtracks for shows, so his stuff is kind of like 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:22.120 melancholic and piano ee, but I think you might like it. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:29.840 I will look him up. Good name, Yeah it spelt Richer. Yeah, okay, great, Yeah, 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.160 you should also listen to the Mighty Mighty Boss Towns, 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:42.960 who did a wonderful album. No, No, don't don't speak 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:48.640 out The album That George Floyd song is incredibly appropriate, 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:54.240 deeply appropriate. Yet speak of listening to things, speaking speaking 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:58.359 of things that are problems? What is what is the 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.680 most troubling thing that isn't being reported on or isn't 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.240 taken seriously by the wider public. The fact that none 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.600 of you said you listened to any rap music or 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.760 any type of music that wasn't just I thought Tupac 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:18.399 wasn't given Okay, Okay, trachical question I listened to. I 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.520 listened to a little bit of Biggie every now and again, 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.080 and I got my most deaf always loaded up, especially 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.359 around the new Year. I love listening to Life and 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:32.320 Marvelous Times Sides as a hell of an album. I've 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.840 always been more Biggie. There's a guy code and Christian 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.040 Parish takes a gun. He rapped by Superman. He's like 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.480 from the Coronation. I think it. Stuff is cool. The 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:43.840 most troubling thing that isn't that isn't being reported on 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.920 are taken seriously enough by the wider public besides our 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:51.320 musical tastes. Well, I'm going to be and always say 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.560 like at least your news and Palestine and like cair 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:59.720 and balance reporting and even like Syria and uh, Yemen 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:01.919 and all of that stuff, I think none of that 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:07.880 gets enough attention. Absolutely, I'm gonna say, fucking scams um Like, 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.040 just on a daily basis, I feel like my phone 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:15.879 gets uh six to eight scam calls scam calls at least, 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.520 and like it's uh And And someone was making a 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.960 note of this earlier because like a bunch of scams 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:25.000 stories have been people have been sharing them. This year. 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.639 But like there's all sorts of fucked up things like 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.960 if a relative gets arrested as soon as the police 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:35.320 post um the like the they're the fact that like 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.040 like publicly posted they've been arrested, like the family if 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.800 they have numbers that scammers can find, will start getting 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.480 auto dialed by like accounts claiming to be the police 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.600 saying that, like you need to put money in their account. 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.400 Now where they're going into general population and it's all 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.960 these are all like low hanging fruit things like they're 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:57.240 they're they're not They're targeting people who are not very 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:01.119 savvy UM often people who have some sort of like 0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:05.440 mental disability, right, so folks who are kind of living 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.760 a marginal existence in a lot of ways as it 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:12.439 is UM and they are like it. It's making it 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.800 incredibly difficult for and and folks who have like are 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:19.000 cognitively impaired for whatever reason, including the fact that they're 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.239 they're elderly. There's just like this. It's never been like 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:25.399 this before, the sheer density of scams that people have 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.879 to wade through. And again, most of you, we've all 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.200 kind of noticed it getting more common, but you may 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.600 not have noticed how kind of brutal. It's gotten because 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.239 you're not the target demographic for this stuff, right, That's 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.360 why they all have like filters in them to try 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.879 and weed out the people who are savvy enough to 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:44.640 know that they're being scammed. But it's there's a number 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.720 of things. This is the result of decisions that the 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:52.560 the FTC made, um like like in order to like 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.160 make it a lot easier for people to use ship 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:58.280 like auto dialers and to carry out like phone based scams. 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:01.120 But it's it's just been punt on by every presidential 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.560 administration in our lifetime. As the Internet has made it 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.919 easier to automate this stuff, and the the explosion of 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.800 machine learning tools that are widely available, these kind of 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.720 AI s that people are joking about right now, like 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:17.080 it's all going to create the capacity to more effectively 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.800 automate scams. I had one that could have gotten me 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.320 the other day where I got a call from my 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:26.600 bank that was listed as from my bank is and 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.600 like on it like it was my bank's phone number, 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.119 like it was. It came up as them on the 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.960 and they were like, hey, you know, someone has there's 0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.080 some some charges. Can we run them by you? We 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:38.880 want to make sure, and they were like charge things 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:40.920 I had not bought. They were like wire transfers and 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:42.800 ship and they're like, oh, it looks like, you know, 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:46.200 somebody's gotten access to your account. And the call dropped 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.399 before I could finish it, so I called them back, 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:50.520 and when I called my bank back, they were like, oh, yeah, 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:52.920 that was someone spoofing our number. They were trying to 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:56.800 get personal information out of you. Um, this ship is 0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:00.000 so fucking endemic and no one is doing a goddamn 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:03.879 thing about it. There's like one anemic attempt in Congress 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.639 to slightly address it, primarily through like education, but it 0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:11.919 is a massive problem. It's part of what's breaking society, 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:16.359