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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling

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Speaker 1: through the Monday edition of the program. A lot still

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Speaker 1: to continue to get to Buck, I've got some answers

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Speaker 1: to questions if you've ever wondered about what flying on

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Speaker 1: Air Force one is like. I got a chance to

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Speaker 1: do it three different flights. As soon as we finished

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Speaker 1: the show on Friday, I hopped well. I ducked out

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Speaker 1: a little bit early so I could make sure and

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Speaker 1: make the flight. Thanks for holding down shop there to

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Speaker 1: close out Friday's edition, and I will say a bunch

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Speaker 1: of different things. One, no requirement that you buckle your

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Speaker 1: seat belt or be seated on Air Force one. When

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Speaker 1: the President is ready to go, they just go. Food

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Speaker 1: is good. I was impressed. No weights on the tarmac,

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Speaker 1: in case you've ever gotten stuck. Sometimes in the flow

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Speaker 1: of traffic, President gets precedent. So whether wherever you are,

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Speaker 1: it's nice you're in the air. Probably five minutes after

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Speaker 1: you have him sit down in his chair, there's pictures up.

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Speaker 1: I was able to talk to him, and I thought

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Speaker 1: the most newsworthy thing that he said, Buck, And there's

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Speaker 1: been a lot of different things that have kind of

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Speaker 1: circled around. But I thought you would find this interesting

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Speaker 1: as well, because I certainly did. I asked him about

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Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos in the Washington Post, because Jeff Bezos was

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Speaker 1: at the inauguration the Washington Post when he got elected

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Speaker 1: the first time rights democracy dies in darkness at the

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Speaker 1: top of the newspaper, but then they announced that they're

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Speaker 1: not going to be endorsing. It seems to me clear

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Speaker 1: that Bezos has finally gotten fed up with the coverage

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Speaker 1: from the Washington Post. And I asked Trump about it,

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Speaker 1: and here is what he said. Cut nine. Jeff Bezos

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Speaker 1: was aureguration.

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Speaker 2: It seems like he's trying to make the Washington Post

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Speaker 2: more fair.

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Speaker 3: I think it's great.

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Speaker 2: Has he talked to you about the fact that he

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Speaker 2: thinks because they let Fighten get away with everything when

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Speaker 2: he was in office, they started to push him.

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Speaker 3: They came after you like crazy, had length that dog

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Speaker 3: to him about it. He's a good guy. I don't

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Speaker 3: really know him in the first time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's such a difference between now in

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Speaker 4: the first Yeah, Zuckerber and Bezos and Jensen.

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Speaker 2: I know you helped al kick had a story a

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Speaker 2: couple of interviews that we did that were being edited

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Speaker 2: that they worked out and they figured out on Facebook

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Speaker 2: through Zuckerberg. What has Bezos told you about trying to

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Speaker 2: be more fair in his coverage.

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Speaker 4: Just that, yes, is really trying to be more fair.

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Speaker 4: They actually did a couple of bad articles that him.

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Speaker 4: He said, this is crazy. Yeah, I'm lose a fortune.

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Speaker 4: Just thing and they and they, you know, they're out

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Speaker 4: of control. These people are crazy. They're they're crazy people.

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Speaker 4: They're out of control.

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Speaker 3: And uh and he's actually a very good guy. I

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Speaker 3: got to know him this second time. He was up.

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Speaker 3: If you look at the inauguration, I look at the

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Speaker 3: people that were on az age.

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Speaker 4: There was a loose who of the world that was

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Speaker 4: totally against me the first time. So much different presidency.

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Speaker 4: I much more support.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that is really kind of important here

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Speaker 1: buck crazy people. Jeff Bezos has told Trump that the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post is being run by crazy people. This is

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Speaker 1: according to Trump, and I think it has to be

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Speaker 1: true if you just look at the actions that Jeff

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Speaker 1: Bezos has undertaken to suddenly try and corral the crazy

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Speaker 1: town of the Washington Post. And I think it's reflective.

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Speaker 1: At the end, he talked about the cultural change. It's

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Speaker 1: seismically different. Right, We're not even seeing the Democrats or

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Speaker 1: people that were the biggest roadblocks, like the Washington Post

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Speaker 5: Well where were they going to go after what they

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Speaker 5: had been promising their their side, their audience for years.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what what do you say at this point?

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Speaker 5: You have to remember we would we would pop in

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to get away from it. But we're not

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Speaker 5: And also, at some point, there's only so much propaganda

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Speaker 5: You have been fed this steady diet of Trump is

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Speaker 5: Trump maybe is going to be financially ruined. That was

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Speaker 5: another thing they thought they would accomplish in New York

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is this is the the time when

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Speaker 5: why you have the the Bernie and aoc traveling show

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Speaker 5: going on right now. You know, they're going around together

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Speaker 5: But I think that Trump part, you know, Clay, you

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Speaker 5: said this, and I believe this is important. There's something

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Speaker 5: from your interaction with them this time. There's a poise

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Speaker 5: Trump has. He has defeated the enemy. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 5: if you think of the media as the primary enemy,

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Speaker 5: he won. There's no way that that ever changes.

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Speaker 1: Now. He goes out a winner no matter what. And

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Speaker 1: part of his.

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Speaker 5: Legacy will be the destruction of the media manipulation machine

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Speaker 5: that the Democrats had relied on for our entire adult

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Speaker 1: I also, I've seen Trump say this recently, Buck, I

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Speaker 1: hadn't heard it before cut fourteen here. Uh. He talked

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Speaker 1: But he said that his initial read when the when

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Speaker 1: And then he decided, well, I've got to just roll

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Speaker 4: Were they attacked or they attacked Mark Yes, and they

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Speaker 3: I said, oh boy, this is brutal for my election.

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Speaker 3: You thought initially he was going to be bad you have.

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Speaker 4: I had this whatever anything like that happened, these were

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Speaker 4: to the people, and the people realized it was a scam.

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Speaker 3: It turned out to be a scam. Look with what happened,

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Speaker 3: and they're all out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear, I said in Air Force one with

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Speaker 1: It is kind of remarkable where we are. One more thing.

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Speaker 1: I asked him Buck whether he thought Kamala should run

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Speaker 2: Kamala is talking about running for governor? Would you give

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Speaker 3: Just let her run?

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Speaker 4: She's she's as far as I don't want to be

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Speaker 4: giving people advice politically, but uh, one thing she's gonna do,

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Speaker 4: she's got to start doing interviews.

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Speaker 4: I mean you can't get away with both of them.

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Speaker 4: you know, you're able to do things that you could do.

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Speaker 4: It was a great election, this last one, and I

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Speaker 2: Don't you think in some way it's better because you

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Speaker 2: have the Senate in the House now in twenty four,

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Speaker 3: It's better because it shows how bad they were. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And when you see here, you're comparing, you comparing it

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Speaker 3: And I think in that way it's better there.

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Speaker 4: What they were doing didn't work, and if I would

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Speaker 1: a way, to your point, he beat his enemies. I

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Speaker 1: in a very very long time. Buck, I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: anything like this the reception. Yes, well, I can remember

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Speaker 1: They no longer have the power, They no longer have

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Speaker 1: That makes everyone think that there's some doom hanging over

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Speaker 1: Things are looking good. There's a lot of challenges ahead,

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Speaker 5: goes to how much more interested the media is in

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Speaker 5: interest broadly speaking, or because they want the truth to

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Speaker 5: be out there as a general matter, but because it's

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Speaker 5: about artisan hits, it's about pushing an agenda and attacking.

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Speaker 5: And so the same is true when they don't think

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Speaker 5: there's a partisan agenda when they can't shame their political opponents,

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Speaker 5: or if they want to protect people for political reasons,

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Speaker 5: as in the case of the trans manifesto. That is

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Speaker 5: a big That is just a recurring theme that we

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Speaker 5: see time and time again.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 1: And I would tie it in even with what we're

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Speaker 1: seeing happen with Elon Musk right now, where he has

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Speaker 1: become the primary target of the antipathy that has been

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Speaker 1: built up for Trump. They failed to define Trump, they

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Speaker 1: went after him for a decade. Elon buck who is

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Speaker 1: going to come on the show. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: him lined up. He was on the plane as well.

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Speaker 1: I talked to him some. He is now the number

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Speaker 1: one target of the Democrat Party and their legacy media allies,

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Speaker 1: and they're attacking him through the ESLA universe more than

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Speaker 1: they're attacking him through his actual protocols, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he is obviously the CEO of multiple companies, but they're

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Speaker 1: going after his companies because he's going after waste and

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Speaker 1: fraud in the government, which is really pretty unbelievable. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that we've seen a precedent like this.

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Speaker 5: Well, well used to think that there were things that

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Speaker 5: could be done in government or things that could be

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Speaker 5: done for the government that everyone can just agree are

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Speaker 5: objectively good, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you would.

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Speaker 5: Think that something like getting rid of fraud wasted abuse.

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Speaker 5: And this is why we played the old clips of

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Speaker 5: Barack Obama and other Democrats sounding like they're trying to

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Speaker 5: put together doje Now. The thing is they say it

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Speaker 5: and don't mean it, meaning they talk about it but

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Speaker 5: don't Actually they either have not the political will or

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Speaker 5: they'll talk about it because they know that it's broadly

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Speaker 5: popular with the American people, and now they're finally doing

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Speaker 5: something about this.

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Speaker 1: Also, this is the thing.

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Speaker 5: That people don't like Elon to me, meaning because of

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Speaker 5: what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: I don't mean people that for a long time, maybe

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Speaker 5: you don't like Tesla or have some problem with Elon.

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Speaker 5: But for Democrats to suddenly turn on Elon Musk because

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Speaker 5: of what he's doing means that they care more about

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Speaker 5: hating Trump than they do about saving the country and

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Speaker 5: perhaps even the world, by their own admission, which means

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Speaker 5: that something's wrong with you, right, there's something really off

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Speaker 5: with your psychology, with your worldview. If hating Trump is

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Speaker 5: more important than tackling climate change again their view of it,

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Speaker 5: not my view of it. Or bring the government in

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Speaker 5: line with the basic accounting standards that you would necessitate

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Speaker 5: or you would expect at any major corporation. That seems

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Speaker 5: pretty fair, pretty standard.

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Speaker 1: I think what it is, and you hit on this

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Speaker 1: years ago that climate change is a religion for people

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Speaker 1: who don't believe in religion. I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of truth to that. I also think the twenty five percent,

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Speaker 1: because let's talk about the twenty five percent suffering from

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Speaker 1: Trump derangement syndrome. They have basically made Trump their graven idol.

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Speaker 1: Everything spins around what Trump does, and I care about politics.

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Speaker 1: It matters to me obviously. I love this job. I

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Speaker 1: feel very fortunate to get to talk to you guys.

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Speaker 1: But most of what I focus on outside of work

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Speaker 1: is my family. Right My three boys keep me very

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Speaker 1: very busy. I'm chasing them around, doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: different things with them. It seems to me buck like

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Speaker 1: many of the most deranged Trump lunatics, they don't have

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Speaker 1: anything else in their lives. They aren't really committed to

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Speaker 1: anything else. They have allowed their opposition of Trump to

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Speaker 1: be number one on their list of obligations and responsibilities.

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Speaker 1: It's not faith, it's not family, it's not even their work.

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Speaker 1: The way they define themselves is their opposition to Trump,

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Speaker 1: and what it ends up creating is oftentimes untenable perspectives

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Speaker 1: because if you really bought into climate change, and I

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Speaker 1: think these people are crazy, but if you did, then

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Speaker 1: Elon should be the biggest hero that has ever existed

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Speaker 1: in your life, because no individual has done more in

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Speaker 1: theory than Elon Musk. Now we can talk about electric

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Speaker 1: vehicles and the challenges and embedded and inherent in them,

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Speaker 1: but if you believe that fossil fuels and global warming

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Speaker 1: is going to destroy the planet, there's no one who

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Speaker 1: has done more to combat that than Elon Musk. And

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Speaker 1: now you're throwing Molotov cocktails at Tesla's and you're trying

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Speaker 1: to bankrupt this company. They their brains are so broken

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Speaker 1: and that I think really what it comes back to

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Speaker 1: is Trump is Satan and they really do believe that

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Speaker 1: he's Hitler, And I wonder what could Trump come out

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Speaker 1: in favor of that they would sud I mean, being

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Speaker 1: a buddies with Elon Musk is close to them being

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Speaker 1: forced to turn on their most important issues, right, Like

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Speaker 1: what could Trump endorse that they would flip on?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that a lot of this is rooted

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Speaker 5: in psychology and not policy. I think that the Democrats

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Speaker 5: are and this has been a mass conditioning, a sort

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Speaker 5: of mass mental manipulation that they have gone through or

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Speaker 5: they have been put through, and they've done it to

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Speaker 5: themselves in many cases. But we're fighting against emotions.

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Speaker 1: Now, Clay.

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Speaker 5: People that are people that are hateful towards Tesla first

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Speaker 5: of all, just because you don't like the politics of

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Speaker 5: the CEO of the company.

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Speaker 1: It's not like Tesla is.

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Speaker 5: All Tesla is doing is things that everybody should think

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Speaker 5: is good, especially democrats. Making electric cars cool, advancing the

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Speaker 5: technology making electric you know, car economy and everything that

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Speaker 5: it go, the AI and all these things that goes

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Speaker 5: into it, bringing it deep into the twenty first century,

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Speaker 5: and building a different future, a more clean energy future for.

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Speaker 1: Those who care about that.

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Speaker 5: Objectively, it's a company that's doing good things that they

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Speaker 5: should all like.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: This is not a company that is selling you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, cluster bombs to the Third world dictators

558
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 5: and like the company itself is bad. So Elon is

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Speaker 5: trying to do something in the government that they don't like.

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Speaker 5: They'll turn on that company. This is based in emotion.

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Speaker 5: This is childish thinking from them. But I think you

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Speaker 5: have that with Democrats across the board right now, because

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Speaker 5: I don't even hear them making arguments. I just hear

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Speaker 5: them upset about things all the time. They're just upset

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Speaker 5: about everything.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: They want.

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Speaker 5: It's it's always, oh, we want the trend to Aragua

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Speaker 5: gang members gone too. We just don't like the way

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Speaker 5: you're doing it. Oh, oh, we want waste, fraud and

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Speaker 5: abuse out of the government. We just don't like the

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Speaker 5: way you're doing it, and we think you're hitler for trying.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: We start to see this over and over again. They

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Speaker 5: actually don't have a better way of doing it. And

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Speaker 5: what you find yourself realizing is they don't really want

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Speaker 5: it to be done. They just want what they want

578
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Speaker 5: because they're overcome with the emotion of my team versus

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Speaker 5: your team. Trump wasn't supposed to win everything. I was

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Speaker 5: told by Fauci and Biden and Kamala and CBS Evening News,

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Speaker 5: and it was all bull crap. I feel like I'm

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Speaker 5: moron now, And instead of having the accountability as a party.

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Speaker 5: The Democrats could have accountability, They could look at themselves

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Speaker 5: and say what went.

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Speaker 1: Wrong with us? It's I don't like you.

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Speaker 5: I'm mad at you, and I'm going to keep complaining

587
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Speaker 5: and throwing tantrums even when you're doing things that I

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Speaker 5: should say thank you for.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like this is the day and day.

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Speaker 5: Out reality of dealing with Democrats right now. I've seen

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Speaker 5: by Tim Walls, I'm cheering for Tesla stock to go down.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's really stupid. Sorry, No, I wasn't cheering. It

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Speaker 5: was a joke, you see what I mean. We knew

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Speaker 5: that I was stupid right away, right away.

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Speaker 1: This is the lead on Axios that I was talking about, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I encourage you. Actually their am newsletter out there. I

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Speaker 1: enjoy this. I mean, I understand they're slanted towards the left,

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Speaker 1: their party is in its deepest hole in fifty years.

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Speaker 5: the culture will be able to take. Well, they'll probably

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Speaker 5: have AI write their paper for them, but they'll be

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Speaker 5: able to take the snow White real snow White ticket

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Speaker 5: receipts and say, see what a disaster this thing is.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's indicative of where everything is going.

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Speaker 5: So we'll get into some of that. Here we go.

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Speaker 5: We got a Howard in Boca Ratone, a lovely place

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Speaker 5: where I go meet friends for dinner regularly.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, Howard?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 7: So I need a little help countering some statements made

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Speaker 7: by my liberal friends. May make it. Throw it out

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Speaker 7: and you give me some more insight. So one statement,

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Speaker 7: Doge is ruining America, And that's because they're cutting funds

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Speaker 7: from the NIH and it's taking away from the ability

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Speaker 7: for us to research for diseases. I'm specifically mentioned MS.

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Speaker 7: Not sure why that's why connect throw the other one

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Speaker 7: or do I want to address that one's first?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean sure, the short version is they're looking

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Speaker 5: at money that is wasted and useless in the endeavors

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Speaker 5: that they're spending it on. So I would I just

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Speaker 5: think that overall, it's quite clear the government spends way

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Speaker 5: too much money and waste way too much money, and

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Speaker 5: they're trying to stop this. Is it going to be

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Speaker 5: one hundred percent perfect. No, But Elon says that whenever

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Speaker 5: they figure out something is affecting an important program, they

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Speaker 5: cut back on it.

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Speaker 1: Clay, Yeah, I mean what I would say in general is,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people are starting to

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Speaker 1: ask these questions, why should the federal government be funding

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Speaker 1: research when the research goes to public companies and they

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Speaker 1: make the money off and not the government. You're seeing

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Speaker 1: a lot of this, and I know, like Columbia, by

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Speaker 1: the way, has been the knee on federal funds, but

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people had the reaction I did.

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Speaker 1: Why does Columbia university need four hundred million dollars in

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Speaker 1: taxpayer funds, Like why were we giving them these kind

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Speaker 1: of dollars in the first place. And that's not just

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Speaker 1: to pick on Columbia. There are lots of universities all

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Speaker 1: over the place. So look, I think medical research is important,

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Speaker 1: but I think if medical research is occurring, it should

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Speaker 1: be for for profit basis. By and large, the government

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be funding research where private companies get the benefit

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Speaker 1: from it. So again, we'll dive into some of this

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Speaker 1: and more more on snow White when we come back,

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Speaker 1: which is going to be the woke disaster