1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Players Podcast. I'm a nist Williams 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: and I'm hanging out today with Kelvin Beat Them, and 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about the roots of Mahelliot Texas, not Mahellia Jackson, 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: the famous singer and public speaking, four different teams, but 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: the impact socially, the impact as a player, the impact 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: other players had on him. Let's listen in four teams, 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: you know, with the Cardinals, what has that been like? 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's been interesting to go into each organization 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: and each organization has its own culture, uh, its own 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: way of doing things, and its own fan base. You know. 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: You know, if you come to to Pittsburgh, who I 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: was drafted by, you know, you don't like coming to 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland because Cleveland's considered your your red head step shot 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: and you might not lose to Cleveland. You can see 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: that we're in Cleveland. No, that's what. That's that's how, 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: that's how, that's how we treated Cleveland. We came here. 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't want I know, but you know, when I 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: came to Pittsburgh, it was that was the culture. The 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: standard was the standard when I got to Pittsburgh, and 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: I think it was a great base for me. As 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: a young player, you know, coming into the league and 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: being exposed to a very veteran um Laydon locker room. 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean you have future Hall of Famers that that 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: were in that locker room, Troy Polamalu, who I know, 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: it's it's coming up for for coming into you know, 26 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer coming up pretty soon, James Harrison, 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, Ben Roethlisberger. So to be able to be 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: a part of that particular crew was was special coming 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: into the National Football League and then you realize that 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: you evolved when you grow um and then you know, 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: signed a one year deal in Jacksonville, you know, during 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: the rebuilding years before they ended up going to then 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: FC Championship, and then you know, went to to New 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: York and it was special being in New York. You know, 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: taxes were a little a little rough, but about traffic, 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: oh boy, traffic that New York you know. And we 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: stayed in Jersey. The facility of these are in Flooring Park, 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: so we were kind of removed from being into the city. 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: But it was very rare that I actually drove into 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: the city through those tunnels and tried to drive around 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: in the city. You take a ober let the uber 42 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: take you where you want to go. You walk, you 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: get dropped off to take a ferry inside and walk 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: where you need to go. But it was special. It 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: was a special time in New York, and it was 46 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: great for me to to really build within that particular community. 47 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: And then and then you know, now being in your 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: your home, your first your first home base, you know, 49 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: um in Phoenix, and it's been special to being a 50 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Sunshine state in the valley, being able to to build 51 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: a family there and call you know, Arizona kind of 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: home base for a while. So I played with two teams, 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: play with the Rams, ten with Arizona for the Rams, 54 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: but I never played again against the Cardinals while with 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: the Rams. What has it been like against your former teammates? Right? 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: What's that like? How do you make that it's it's 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: it's funny, man. The first time that I had to 58 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: play when I when I left Pittsburgh, I didn't play 59 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, Pittsburgh when I went to Jacksonville. But when 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: I got to New York, I ended up playing Jacksonville 61 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: those first two seasons when I was in New York. 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it was weird because the same guys that 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: I would practice against, you know, every day in practice. 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: You know, for a year it's the same guys I 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: was going up against in the game, and stuff that 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: you were doing practice a little you know, I wouldn't 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: say dirty stuff, but a little you know, a little 68 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: shot here, a little shot there that you were doing practice, 69 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: just kind of just messing around. You do it in 70 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: the game and you think it's funny, but it's not funny. 71 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: It's it's the real thing now. So you know, to 72 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: experience that was was interesting to play Pittsburgh for the 73 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: first time when I was in New York. That was, 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, kind of eerie feeling because that was the 75 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: first time that I had played, you know, Pittsburgh, you 76 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: know since I left. You know, Cam Hayward, which I 77 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: think is one of the most dominant defensive players in 78 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: the league, was a guy that I fought every day 79 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: as a rookie, you know, when I got to Pittsburgh. 80 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: But we also grew as men, our families grew where 81 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: we're in Pittsburgh, served on the NFLPA together, you know, 82 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: have been nominated for the to pay Man of the 83 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: Year award together. So we just had just a deep bomb. 84 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: But to play him and in twenty nineteen. It was 85 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: it was interesting they came up to you know, came 86 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: up to New York. I mean anytime, you know, Pittsburgh 87 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: fans travel, they travel in packs and they're heavy heavy. 88 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: It was more Pittsburgh fans in MetLife Stadium. I mean 89 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: there's New York and New York. Man. Well, you know, 90 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: you know sometimes that that's just how a fan basis. 91 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: You have some you know, some fans in New York. 92 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: It had to be, you know, forty five fifty five. 93 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean it was when you see the yellow towels 94 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: waving and you have to go in silent card at home. 95 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: That's not that's not that's not a pleasant feeling. But 96 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, we were able to win the game. And 97 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: it's always great beating your former teat That's what I'm 98 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: saying exactly. It's it's it's alway, it's always great being 99 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: your former team and and and most times I've been 100 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: on the the great side of of of beating my 101 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: former teams. It's you ten years, ten years, you're so conscientious. 102 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: You know what I know about you being on those 103 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: calls with the Players Coalition ma Hellio, Texas in between 104 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: College Station in Dallas, Texas seven how many people hundred? 105 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: I didn't say seventy five? How many of your graduated class? 106 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: But where did you get this awareness of giving back philanthropy? 107 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: Where did that come from? You know? I had phenomenal parents. Um, 108 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: I think, you know, for me, everything starts with my family. 109 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: I had a dad that that you know, didn't have 110 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: great education, but knew how to to to work on 111 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: a car, still knows how to work on the car. 112 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Had a mother that you know, raised four kids. Um. 113 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: You know, I was working at a state supported living 114 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: center for mentally challenged individuals there in Maha, where it 115 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: was all about the community. It was all about how 116 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: do we help each other together? When I remember many 117 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: times when my mother would you know, grill have barbecues 118 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: and invite the entire community. And it came to a 119 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: point where I used to say, you know, we're with 120 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: a Salvation army over here, because you would just bring 121 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: so many people over and it was it had no 122 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: there was no color, there was no socio economic background. 123 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: However you wanted to come over here and whenever you 124 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 1: want to come by, if you just want to stop 125 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: by for a hot link sandwich, you know, if you 126 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: just want to stop by and get some. You know. 127 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: We had these little huggies, these little birls that that 128 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: you know, it was a hot line, you know, just 129 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: hot line wrapped in bread, white bread, wonder bread, miss burrs, 130 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: miss birds, bread um, you know, throw a little barbecue sauce, 131 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, and wrapping it for you know, a little 132 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: hot link sandwich. But anytime, you know, anybody wants to 133 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: come over and just you know, just grab a meal, 134 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: they had that opportunity, and for me, that was it 135 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: was great as a young person seeing that, even though 136 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, we were struggling as a family, but it 137 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: was great to see that and see how invested they 138 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: were into the community. And that was something that wasn't 139 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: still to men just had the ability to go out 140 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: and execute on that as I went out and started 141 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: to to you know, build my own life and try 142 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: to you know, put my stamp on the world. As 143 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: I you know, grew up and started to leave the 144 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: lead the house, going to college and you know, from 145 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: college and to the professional ranks. You know, one of 146 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: the things where your generation of players, you guys are 147 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: even more active as it relates to social injustice, are 148 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: just being aware some people say, awoke, awoke in the hell? 149 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: Ya did you guys have a divide there as relates 150 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: to Caucasian and African Americans? What was that like? I mean, 151 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: it was as simple as a railroad tracks. You say, 152 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: the one side of the railroad tracks. It's that. It's 153 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: that's a small amount of people that still that that's simple. Man. 154 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: Is interesting. They just hired a new a d and 155 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: athletic director for the football team, and my brother happened 156 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: to send me a picture of of the people who 157 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: voted him in and the head coach. I was like, 158 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: a much change. You know, all older white man. It's 159 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: a younger white coach who just got hired. There's no 160 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: diversity in ethnicity or in color that made a decision 161 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: about you know who was hired. Um in the town 162 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: is about a third or third or third Caucasian, Black 163 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: and Hispanic. So to see that there's still just something 164 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: so simple. It's just from a a hiring practice to 165 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: a high school coach, that there is no diversity within 166 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: that process. It's just I mean, I wouldn't say it's 167 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: eye opening because I've been a part of it. I 168 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: grew up in this. This is I'm used to it. 169 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: It's it's it is what it is, and you know, 170 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: you you hate to to to say that in that 171 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: particular instance, but that's just the life that I came from. 172 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: You know, if if you lived on on Hingecliff, which 173 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: was you know, that's where a sort of the upper 174 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: class folks lived, you knew what Hingecliff, man, you didn't 175 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: walk down the street Hingecliff, you know that was on 176 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: the north side. You didn't. If you if you was 177 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be on that out of town, you just 178 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: don't go on outside of town, you know. And that's 179 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: just that's just how I was. And that's Texas Stu. 180 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, me and my wife had 181 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: this conversation all the time. It's Texas and South and 182 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: that I can see Jessica in the league eight now 183 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: going on eight with Jessica. So two years in you 184 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: get married one year so pretty much a year. So 185 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: we um so two thousand twelve, I get drafted two 186 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen in February, I propose on a Saturday. We 187 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: get married on Thursday and we've been married ever since. 188 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: So all for for all the active players, how what 189 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: advice if you are public speaking to you, because we're 190 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: gonna talk about your public speaking. I know you can 191 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: articulate words and bring message with clarity. What would you 192 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: say to your your your fellow active players if they say, hey, Calvin, 193 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: give us a talk about choosing a wife now that 194 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: we're in the league, not that we have the fame. 195 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: Come on, give me your I feel sorry for your 196 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: first here. I'm trying to get with you. Um. You know, 197 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: I think you have to find somebody that one can 198 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: take care of themselves. I like that independent and at 199 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day, they don't need you. Like 200 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: not to say that Jessica can just walk away. She can, 201 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: but she's perfectly fired with saying I can get my owner. 202 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: And I'm cool with that. And and the thing is is, 203 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: I think as a player, you should want appreciate you 204 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: should appreciate that you have a woman that can say 205 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: I can get my own. I'm fine, We're in partnership, 206 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: we're building something together. You bring something to the table. 207 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm bringing something to the table, and let's let's do 208 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: life together. And I think that's something, especially if you're 209 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: trying to get married in the league, you have to 210 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 1: be able to find that you have to restract that 211 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: balance of somebody that's wanting to do something with you 212 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: and you're not being the all and all everything. The 213 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: temperature in the house goes up and down based on 214 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: your mood, Like, how can you find a way to 215 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: make sure that y'all are doing something together? Because we 216 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: know the statistics of you know, what guys have done. 217 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: What happens when when guys have finished playing the you know, 218 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: the divorce rating things of that nature, Like you want 219 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: something when when when the game is over, y'all are 220 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: still checking along doing something together, you know, And for me, 221 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: it's that's that's what I look for. I look at 222 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, I told you I had, you know, great 223 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: people that I looked up to when I was in Pittsburgh. 224 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: You know, people like Max Starks. Like seeing Max Starks 225 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: and his wife Tiffany Starts how they built what they 226 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: built while they were in the National Football League and 227 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: what that looks like seeing seeing that now they're they're 228 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: there on the outside of it and they're still together, 229 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: both still doing what they need to do to to 230 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, to to bring more life to them and 231 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: their kids. You know, seeing Heath Miller, him and his wife, 232 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Brett Kisel, him and his wife, how they build things 233 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: while they were in the league, and they're continuing to 234 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: build those things, you know now that they're out of 235 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: the game. And I think you have to be thinking 236 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: about the in mind even though you're getting married right now. 237 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: So taking the time to make sure that you find 238 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: a great partner, somebody that's willing to partner with you, 239 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: and you're partnering with them as you all growing and 240 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: doing life together. I bet the Player's podcast no one 241 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: thought they get you started. And I'm not I'm not 242 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: a marrit Council pays professional, but just just wisdom. But now, 243 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: when did this public speaking come? You matriculate from Hellia 244 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: to SMU Office of Alignment, who I'm told by the 245 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: Officer of Linement they're the smartest group on the football field. 246 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: All right? How did you end up number one discovering 247 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: your gift of public speaking? And what was like doing 248 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: your commencement address for your graduating class at SMU Office 249 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: of Alignment. What was the pressure life? You know, it's 250 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: pressures what you put on yourself, you know, uh, you 251 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: know the old saying pressure the buzz pipes and mcdomond's 252 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: one or the two um when I think you know 253 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: to to to answer your first question, when did it start? 254 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: I was kind of forced into it ice I was 255 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: an introverted I came from the country. You don't talk 256 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: in the country. You know, you come, do what you 257 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: need to do, and you keep it moving. When I 258 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: got to s MU, you got I got forced into 259 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: being the captain of not forced, but earned the right 260 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: to be a captain of the football team. You gotta 261 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: be able to talk to other men. You know. I 262 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: was involved in some things on campus UM, whether it's 263 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: with you know, the president and his Commission on Substance 264 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: Abuse Student Affairs UM. I was the president of the 265 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: Sack Committee while I was on campus, So I was 266 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: in this position of leadership where I have to actually 267 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: talk to people. And then I was people on campus 268 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: kind of thrust into positions to Hey, we want you 269 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: to come up and talk to the to the donors, 270 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: and we want you to come and talk to the alumnus. 271 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to fix something and get something right. So, 272 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, for me, it was one of those positions 273 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: where I had to be put into those circumstances. And 274 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: as I got put into those circumstances, realized that, hey, 275 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: this is something that I can do, and it just 276 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: kind of started to matriculate. And then to to speak 277 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: at the commencement that was not something that I was expecting. 278 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: How did they? How did you get selected? Or the 279 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: thing is is I graduated three and a half years 280 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: because I wanted to get drafted. We're here at the draft. 281 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: I felt that I can get drafted in three and 282 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: a half years. That wasn't the case. So I came back. 283 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: I got my masters and the guy who I was 284 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: talking to, Dean Shark. We have a very good relationship, 285 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: but he was like, Kevin, I don't think that you 286 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: can play football, train for the NFL combine, and get 287 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: your masters all before the two thousand as well draft. 288 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: And I looked at him much like we're talking right now, 289 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: and I said I can get that done. And he 290 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: was like, we'll lay out a plan to show me 291 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: that you can get this done and we'll see if 292 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: it works because he didn't think that it can happen. 293 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: Where did you get this mindset? Well, you thought it 294 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: could happen. Well, I had, you know, we talked about coaches, 295 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: you talk about formal players. I had a formal player, 296 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: Adrian Clem played, got drafted by the New England Patriots 297 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: one three Super bowls. He was my my office in 298 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: line coach in college. He laid the plan. He said, 299 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: beach me, if you want to go to the league, 300 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: here's how you get it done. Three and a half years, 301 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: get your degree. And this is I'm taking summer school. 302 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm taking winter courses. Like I didn't really take a break. 303 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: I got it and got it out and he was like, 304 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, this is the plan. So I executed on 305 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: that plane. He gave me three and a half years, 306 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: got it done in three and a half years. Listen, 307 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: I took the time to listen. Listening there's a skill 308 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: listen when I When I do? You know, because when 309 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: you talk about public speaking is speaking to corporates and 310 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: speaking to other other peers, and then you speak to 311 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: young kids. We all have to speak to young kids 312 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: at some point. And I try to break it down 313 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: is something so simple. Listening is a skill. Listening is 314 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: a skill. And if I can't listen to people who 315 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: have much more wisdom than I do, been around the 316 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: block a number of times, have seen things that they've 317 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: done wrong, and and things that they messed up on. 318 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: I gotta be able to take what they've told me 319 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: in a plot. And and and Adrian took the time 320 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm to tell me, Hey, beach him, this is how 321 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: things are gonna go. This is how the league approaches things. 322 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: This is how you need to approach things during this 323 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: college time prior to go into the league. And I 324 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: told Dean Charth that, you know, at s m U, 325 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: I was the school of Education, and told him this 326 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: is what I wanted to do. This is how I 327 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: want to get it done. He didn't believe me. I 328 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: brought the proposer back to him. He let me in. 329 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: I got the Masters in sixteen months and the commencement 330 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: came up. I got drafted, you know. And this time 331 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: in two thousand and twelve, the commencement was in May, 332 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, Kelvin, I would love the 333 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: same guy who told me I couldn't do it was 334 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: the same guy who introduced me at the commencement um 335 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: and ended up doing that commencement speech. So what do 336 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: you tell young people? Because the d he had wisdom right, 337 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: he's thinking about, man, it's gonna be tough. What do 338 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: you say to guys what's that tension where Okay, I'm 339 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna listen to him versus listen to myself in your 340 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: mentor your officers line. Coach as it something differently? Think 341 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: you do that? I think you have to be able 342 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: to balance conviction versus reality. For some conviction, conviction versus reality, 343 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: I called reality self aware self awareness. And the thing is, 344 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: my conviction was this is what I want to do. 345 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: The reality that he felt was supposed to be. My 346 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: reality was there's no way an athlete can play football 347 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: and get all this stuff done and the time a 348 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: lot that we have for him. But why did you 349 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: think differently? Are you? Well? Here, here's here's the thing. 350 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: My my grandfather was shot when he was nineteen years old. 351 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: He's been blind since he was nineteen years old. My 352 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: grandfather raised nine kids. My grandfather taught my dad how 353 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: to work on cars. My grandfather taught me how to fish, 354 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: literally taught me how to fish. A blind man taught 355 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: me how to fish. If a blind man could do 356 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: all that, I can be able to to to do 357 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: a little extra education, be able to figure it out, 358 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, get drafted, find a way to make a team. 359 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: I mean, in the grand scheme of things, and I 360 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: think sometimes we don't think about that enough. In the 361 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. I'm playing a game. I'm going 362 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: to get a little education. This man had to find 363 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: a way to live life with no light, literally, and 364 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: he's found a way to do it and still doing 365 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: it to this day. So that culture that I had 366 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: it to be exactly form with the viewers I saw it, 367 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: and to see it and to say I'm going to 368 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: do X, and then go and do X. I got 369 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: to be able to do it because he showed me 370 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: how to do it. Grandfather, father, mother. I have to 371 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: go and continue that legacy. Now I'm doing it in 372 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: a much different way. But my grandfather and my dad 373 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: would always say, and you know, I think this is 374 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: something that happens within our community quite a bit. I 375 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: want you to go further than I did. My grandfather 376 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: told my dad, Hey, I want you to go further 377 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: than I did. Now my dad tells me, how, I 378 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: want you to go further than I did. Now I 379 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: got a son and I and I'm telling him, hey, son, 380 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: I want you to go further than I did. Now 381 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm giving him a high standard to the right. 382 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: But I want you to go. I want you to 383 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: go further than I did. It's interesting thinking about lyrics 384 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: from UH jay Z and Little Wayne song card Mr 385 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: Carter and J G. Jay Z lyrics in there, says 386 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: Young Carter because the Wayne's last name is Carter. He says, 387 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: Young car Young Carter, go father, If that's not why 388 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: we're here, then why bother. My dad said the same 389 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: thing to me and my two older brothers. Your job 390 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: is to take it better than I was, and obviously 391 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: my three girls and my son same way as we 392 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: now go to a forking road. You got involved in 393 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: some philodrophic work. There's a city missing water. Tell us 394 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: about that. I mean, everybody heard about what happened with Flint, Michigan. Flint, Michigan, 395 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: and I think that's uh something that we continue, you know. 396 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: It's it's it's one thing to understand that there is 397 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: a lot of access to water in Michigan. It's it's 398 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: another thing to actually do something about it. And there 399 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: have been a number of players that have have done 400 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: something about it, and they're still trying to find a 401 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: way to fix that infrastructure. But I was in New 402 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: York at the time. I was playing for the Jets 403 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: at the time, and you know, we talked about the 404 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: tracks earlier in ma hear if you know where I 405 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: was at in Livingston, New Jersey, New York was nothing 406 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: but you know, maybe fifteen minutes down the street. So 407 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: in Livingston we got access to clean water, and New 408 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: in New York their pipes of bursting and they don't 409 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: have access to clean water. Just more people just moving 410 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: in the biggest city, you know. You know, it was 411 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: it was painful to even hear some of the stories 412 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: of what was going on in New York. And NFL 413 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: headquarters is right across the park, you know, right across 414 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: the Hudson So all this happened, happening going right on 415 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: in the in the metro area of New York City. 416 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: You know, it just felt the need to actually say 417 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: something about it, do something about it, and try to 418 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: find a way to galvanize, just like as a nation 419 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: we tried to galvanize and we did galvanize. And what 420 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: was going on in Flint, you know, I want to 421 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: take the time to gavinize and what was going on 422 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: there in New work New Jersey. I mean was able 423 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: to partner with PEPSI worked with the National Football League 424 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: work with the jets um and found a way to 425 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: not only talk about the symptoms that were going on 426 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: and provide access to to bottle water there, but also 427 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: talk about some of the policies and infrastructure that was 428 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: taking place in that particular region and bring change to 429 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: that particular region. So, you know, it's it's it's I 430 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: think you talk about you know, woke, being woke Now. 431 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: I think as athletes, when we come from our backgrounds, 432 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: we know that there are some some things that are 433 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: still going on in our community. But as we get displaced, 434 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: and not displaced, but as we go to other communities, 435 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: we realized we have that same task to do something 436 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: while we're there during that particular season, whatever season, how 437 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: a long you're gonna be there. I was in Pittsburgh 438 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: for four seasons. Whatever time I needed to do I need, 439 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: I did. I did something there in Jacksonville, in New York, 440 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: now in Arizona. Whatever God has called me to do 441 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: during that time in that particular season, they need to 442 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: take the time to do it. But the consciousness of it, 443 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: it's one thing. Okay, I see a problem. Uh okay, 444 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: knee water. What did you get the word with all 445 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: and the boldness to reach out to the league, to 446 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: reach out to all these different entities that PEPSI that 447 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: brought together to solve this issue. Yeah, it bores downto relationships, 448 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: and it takes time to build those relationships over time. 449 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: You have to show up. You have to show yourself 450 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: to be friendly. You have to show that you're willing 451 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: to to to give a little bit too, get a 452 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: little bit. You know. I had a coach in college 453 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: of Frank Dance. He said, what you give real grow, 454 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: what you keep you loose. Frank Answers my coach in college. 455 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: And that's some year before it passed away. I've heard 456 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: I've never played for But when I got to the 457 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: Rims the legend of freaking serious, Yes I was. I 458 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: was with Frank his his his last his last few 459 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: years of life, uh, last couple of years of life. 460 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: And it was special. Put me on the crowdis led 461 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: having on the old crowdis last six thirty in the morning. 462 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: But he talked about that what you give real grow, 463 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: what you keep you lose. What you give what you keep, 464 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: you lose. And it's not about money. It's it's not monitor, 465 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: it's your time. It's your resources, it's your network, it's 466 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: your brain power. And you realize when you're when you 467 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: were invest in your relationships, just give, just take the 468 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: time to give. You'd be surprised what were to come 469 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: back your way. And it's it's been giving to other 470 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: people for a number of years. And when I actually 471 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: need to pick up the phone and make a call, hey, 472 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: I need your help with this. It was easy for 473 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: me to to to get established in the relationships way before. 474 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: But way before it was an asked you know, you know, 475 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: did a number of things for the Jets. You know, hey, 476 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: this is something that I'm wanting to do with Would 477 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: you all be willing to partner with me at least 478 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: at least direct me in the right place and where 479 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: I need to go and and direct me on who 480 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: I need to be talking to. I like to public speaking. 481 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: Did you commence from address? What did you want your 482 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: fellow graduates to remember from your speech? Don't don't allow 483 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: people to put you in the box. Don't allow stereotypes 484 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: to to to be what runs your life. And that 485 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: was something that I felt was was done in that 486 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: case there mu because the stereotype for for a black 487 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: person on campus at either playing football, you playing basketball. 488 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: Your brain isn't isn't isn't valued, and the intellectual prowess 489 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: is in valued. And I wanted to make sure I 490 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: portrayed that in the conversation that I had with my 491 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: periods that day. Is it's don't allow people to put 492 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: you in the box and don't succumb to to stereotypes. 493 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: So now currently you just finish a Harvard classes online, 494 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: tell us about that. You constantly growing. Hey, here's another, 495 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: here's another, here's another, Frank, isn't it ongoing skill and 496 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: technique development, ongoing ongoing? None other, professor, continuing education. I'm 497 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: just taking the time to continue to feed my brain, 498 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: continue to feed my mind. And you know the the 499 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: pandemic tapping last year. UM, and just wanted to continue 500 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: to to you use this time to to better myself. 501 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: So I have the opportunity to to take a class 502 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: called the Crossover in the Business UM there a Harvard 503 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: Business School was excited. So you know, anytime you you 504 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: you put Harvard in front of something, it sounds it 505 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: sounds special. But had the opportunity with about another you know, 506 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: hundred athletes or so to take part in this program 507 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: and learn from a famous professor Anita about you know, 508 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: how to to to be able to look at a 509 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: case evaluated, develop a thesis around your own conviction and 510 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: then be able to provide evidence, uh supported with the exhibits, 511 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: the numbers, and be able to to to be able 512 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: to debate and have you know, healthy dialogue around different cases. 513 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: Talked about Lady Gaga, talked about jay Z, talked about 514 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: d Wade, talked about Chip and Joanna Gaines and how 515 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: they built their their media and entertainment empires and what 516 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: their process was like. So also understanding somebody else's journey 517 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: from a business standpoint. It was special to see that 518 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: would most people be surprised how intellectually challenging the game 519 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: of football is. It is, especially when you played on 520 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: four teams. You know, you know I've had I mean, 521 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: at one point in time between New York, well between 522 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: pretty much since I left Pittsburgh, I had offensive coordinator 523 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 1: in a new offensive line coach every year. So Jacksonville, 524 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: I had too offensive coordinators to office line coaches. New York, 525 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: I had a new coordinator in new office line coach 526 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: every year I was in New York. Uh So that 527 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: four year stretch. I had to learn a number of 528 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: different systems, a number of different languages, and football language 529 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: can be somewhat similar from team to team, but the 530 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: way in which those systems are done are a lot different. 531 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: You know, now code words are becoming a huge thing 532 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: within the National Football League. You know Reno and l A, 533 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and and and in l A. You know Boston 534 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: and New York. Uh. You know, co words are becoming 535 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: a huge thing. You've got to be able to know 536 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: those code words off the top, especially with you know, 537 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 1: you know in our offense now in uh in Arizona, 538 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: there's no holdo, so we're we're going continuing to go 539 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: and trying to go faster. You gotta know those code 540 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: words extremely, you know, extremely well. Give you an opportunity 541 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: to talk to the legends that's gonna hear this. Hands 542 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: are going to hear this, and your contemporaries currently eyes, 543 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: what do you say to them, your current group of 544 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: current guys, with this opportunity they have Nobody knows how 545 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: long it's gonna be. If you had one minute to say, hey, guys, 546 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: what would Kelvin say? I would say, first and foremost, 547 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: we stand on the shoulders of those who came before us. 548 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: This game wouldn't be the game if we didn't respect 549 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: my history and the people who actually built this game. Secondly, 550 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: we are tasked with taking the game forward. There have 551 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: been resources put in place by the NFL, the n 552 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: f L, p A, by the legends. Um, we need 553 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: to take advantage of these resources. And when resource you 554 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: take advantage of? Was the player uhas correct? Correct to 555 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: to take advantage of the resources that have been fought for, 556 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: that have been you know, we've been fighting for these things. 557 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: How do we make sure that we don't become statistics? 558 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: How do you how do we make sure that we 559 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: don't lose out on this great game? This is a 560 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: phenomenal game. Make sure that we utilize all the resources 561 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: that we have in place to not only better the 562 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: game of football for our fans, but also better the 563 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: lives of our players. Once we leave leaving transition from 564 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: the NFL quick its favorite uniform, Favorite uniform Pittsburgh Steelers. 565 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: Biggest misconception of the big man of the big man? 566 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: Which big man? It's a lot of big man. What's 567 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: the misconception of the big man? The big alignement of 568 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: the big what's what's the misconception about you? Guys? Um 569 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: that were that were very inquisitive. I don't think a 570 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: lot of I think if you talked to any offensive linement, 571 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: you will be inspired. You know, offensive don't get enough love. 572 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 1: We don't. We don't get enough chances to talk like this. 573 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: Now you'r DVS. Players. You know, y'all get out of level. 574 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: You know, but you'd be surprising you sit down and 575 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: talk to a big man, you will be inspired. You 576 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: will learn, and you will learn about a particular industry 577 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: that you have no idea about. Favorite thing you do 578 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 1: with your kids, I don't tell them to the country. 579 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: I love taking them to the country. I just got 580 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: some tractors and and at a bobcat so getting them 581 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: on some of that that farm equipment and just natural. Yes, 582 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's nothing wrong with you know, I'm all 583 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: about technology. How do we get kids more involved in technology? 584 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: Understanding how im portant education is. But at the end 585 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: of the day, I love taking them back to the country. 586 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: You put on some old pants and some old shoes, 587 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: go jumping the mud, trying not to trying not to 588 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: pick up the manure, Go play with the cows. Go 589 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: feed the cows, Go be outside, you know, go learn 590 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: how to be be involved in nature. So if the 591 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: grid go out like it did in Texas, that you 592 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: better be able to fight the question. Man, one of 593 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: the most dynamic young quarterbacks in the league. You're blocking 594 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: for calummary Man. Col is every bit of somewhere. I'll 595 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: generously say, five the eleven. How about that? What's it 596 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: like blocking for Kyler when you're not sure where he is? 597 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: It's it's uh, it's like a little Jodo lightning that's 598 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: in a little bottom. You know, you never know what 599 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: can happen. And you know the pressure that you feel 600 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: is I don't want to allow my guy to get 601 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: close to him, because if you do your job, he 602 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: will make something special happen. Um. And I've seen that, 603 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, in the year that I played with him, 604 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, uh, and looking forward to playing with a 605 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: couple more years. You do your job, he will make 606 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: you look really really good. But he's special, man, He's 607 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: he's he's hungry, he's competitive, really competitive, wants to be 608 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: the best. I'm looking forward to seeing him mature and grow. 609 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: He's special. And you haven't you know, d hop on 610 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: the outside We're just brought in a J Green Uh. 611 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: You got uh you know Christian kirk as A's gonna 612 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: be on the inside. We got more than enough weapons. 613 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: All you have to do is is is stay clean. Um, 614 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: and that's how I go as officer alotment. How do 615 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: we make sure that his jersey's claim when he hang 616 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: up his jerseys at the end of the game, and 617 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: my lockers right next to him. So when I see 618 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: that jersey clean at the end of the game, we 619 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: we we did what were supposed to. You're looking forward 620 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: to going up against j Watson practice. I should be fun. 621 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fireworks. There's been a 622 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: lot of fireworks. But that's what training campus for ironshop 623 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: frands are. How often have you had a chance to 624 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: say to your family, dad, grandfather, thank you. I hadn't 625 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: said it enough. I hadn't said it enough. Um. You 626 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: know I would say in our community, especially you know 627 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: what I mean in our community that that that bond 628 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: sometimes can be someone weak in communication. Um. We may 629 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: say it with our actions, we may say it with 630 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: how we go about things, but actually saying that I 631 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: probably have not said that enough. So thanks for challenging 632 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: me that in that regard, Well, if they hear this podcast, 633 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: I want to tell them thank you because the way 634 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: you and Jessica building your family and everywhere you've been 635 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: player's coalition. Thank you, Kelvin. This has been fantastic man. 636 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us the best as you 637 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: have to come. Keep up the grade worker say we're doing. 638 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: To provide feedback or request a topic for discussion, email 639 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: us at NFL Legends at NFL dot com