WEBVTT - 3. Lost

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. There has been a major development in the investigation

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<v Speaker 1>into the murder of a father who was killed while

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<v Speaker 1>camping with his two young daughters in California last June.

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<v Speaker 1>On the first Monday in January twenty nineteen, while he's

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<v Speaker 1>still finishing out his sentence for the probation and weapons violations,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Rawda is charged with this series of crimes in Malibu.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Rauda was charged yesterday with one count of murder.

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<v Speaker 1>He also faces ten counts of attempted murder and five

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<v Speaker 1>counts of burglary over string of shootings that date back

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty sixteen. I expected this, you could see it

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<v Speaker 1>coming a mile away, but it's still pretty shocking. For months,

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<v Speaker 1>the cops have been saying that they can't connect the

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<v Speaker 1>various crimes, all those near misses, the murder, the armed burglaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're saying not only that they're connected, but that

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<v Speaker 1>they were all committed by the same person, Anthony Rowda.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one count of murder Tristan Bodett, ten counts

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<v Speaker 1>of attempted murder, including Bodette's two young daughters, and all

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<v Speaker 1>the victims of the near misses. The charges don't say

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<v Speaker 1>much about the weapons or ammunition used in the crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>but news reports confirm the rumor. I've been hearing that

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<v Speaker 1>Bodette was killed with a nine millimeter round the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ammunition that Rouda was arrested with. Rowdah pleads

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty at the arrangement, and he's confident he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to proceed to trial as quickly as possible. Every time

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<v Speaker 1>I see Rowdah's father, Ozzie, he says, I hope he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do this, but he also repeats what Rowdah's telling him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying he's innocent. Ozzie tells me he said I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even want to be around people. People cause problems,

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<v Speaker 1>so how can they say I did this. I try

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<v Speaker 1>to schedule a visit with Rowdah, but it's abruptly canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I can do is write him a letter.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell him I'll leave money with the cashier at

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<v Speaker 1>the Twin Towers Jail. It's for pencils, stationary and stamps

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<v Speaker 1>so he can write me back. Finally, he does. I

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<v Speaker 1>do appreciate your care and diligence in contacting me. I've

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to you but could not get your

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<v Speaker 1>contact info. He writes, I feel wronged. I'm not someone

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<v Speaker 1>who kills innocent people. In subsequent letters, he writes, I

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<v Speaker 1>know people must feel I'm guilty, but I suffer every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I suffered sometimes when I was free. I know I'm innocent,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't prove that because of the emotions that

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<v Speaker 1>are involved. There's nothing I can say to clear my name.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing I want to say. Okay, fine, But I

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<v Speaker 1>notice something about his writing, a kind of parallel he's

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<v Speaker 1>setting up between himself and, of all people, Tristan Boudette.

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<v Speaker 1>He refers to Boudette as an innocent person, and he

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<v Speaker 1>says that he Anthony Rowda, is also an innocent person.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both victims in his view. He writes, if you

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<v Speaker 1>feel the family of mister Boudette needs some closure, I

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<v Speaker 1>can try to help that. That's definitely a surprise, and

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<v Speaker 1>so is this quote. The Baudette family and friends can

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<v Speaker 1>blame the Sheriff's department for his death. That's where the

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<v Speaker 1>justice is at. I'm Dana Goodyear and this is Lost Hills,

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<v Speaker 1>episode three. Lost. Ever since her husband Tristan Boudette died,

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<v Speaker 1>Erica Wu has felt like she's trapped inside a never

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<v Speaker 1>ending dream. You know, the moment my sister told me

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<v Speaker 1>what had happened, I feel like I was just watching

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<v Speaker 1>myself for the rest of the day in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, live out this horrible sort of nightmare. And

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<v Speaker 1>I still feel that way sometimes, like it's so unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't real, that this is some sort of dream

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<v Speaker 1>or nightmare or movie or something that I'm just watching

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<v Speaker 1>happening to my family, to myself and to my family.

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<v Speaker 1>She woke up alone that morning at home in Orange County,

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready to take her medical exam, the whole reason

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<v Speaker 1>why Tristan had taken the girls camping and she'd stayed back.

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<v Speaker 1>Then somehow her oldest sister was at her door then

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<v Speaker 1>driving her to Malibu. I mean it it's such a blur,

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<v Speaker 1>but they told me what little they knew at the

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<v Speaker 1>time was that Tristan had been shot and that he

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<v Speaker 1>was dead, but that the girls were safe. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the hours that it took me to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not believing any of it, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't believe that he was really you know, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was just so unbelievable to me, and I remember arguing

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone just how do you know that he's dead?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why why isn't he at the hospital? Like who

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<v Speaker 1>who said he was dead? Like how do they? How

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<v Speaker 1>do they know? And then when they told me the

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<v Speaker 1>girls were safe, I mean I just remember thinking like

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<v Speaker 1>what if they're not? Are you just saying that? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you just waiting until I get there to tell me? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>It was just I mean, like it just gosh, it

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<v Speaker 1>just really messes with your mind, you know, hearing that

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<v Speaker 1>that information. So I think I was all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to go to the campground, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of the rangers or somebody there that

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<v Speaker 1>said something like that to me that this never happened,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this kind of stuff never happens here, which

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, at the time, it was sort of like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's good to know that that kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>never happens here, but also just happened, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>could just happened like yeah, and it would come out

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<v Speaker 1>that in fact, many similar things without being anywhere near

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<v Speaker 1>catastrophic in the way that it was with Tristan. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of near misses. People knew, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was something that I didn't I didn't find

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<v Speaker 1>out until much later on. Yeah, I'm at Erica's new

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<v Speaker 1>house in the Bay Area. This is not the home

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<v Speaker 1>she and Tristan were going to move into. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>different place that he never saw, a townhouse in a

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<v Speaker 1>row of identical townhouses near the medical center where she works.

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<v Speaker 1>She asked me to come here for a reason. She

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to talk about the night of Tristan's death,

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation, the charges against Anthony Rawda, or the impending

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<v Speaker 1>criminal trial. The words Rauda and Malibu feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>exist on some other planet, light years away from her grief.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to tell tristan story, she says. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell our story. This neighborhood is so friendly and nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's lovely. Are you guys settling? Ye? Yeah, we're settled,

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<v Speaker 1>settled as it can be. I didn't know before we

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<v Speaker 1>get started. She shows me around. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>leave our shoes down here? That's fine. There's a tiny kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>a breakfast nook, a cozy living room. Every inch of

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<v Speaker 1>the house down to the balcony is filled with kids toys.

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<v Speaker 1>One wall is devoted to framed paintings that Clara made

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<v Speaker 1>with Tristan, isn't this the best? My favorite? So she

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<v Speaker 1>would do this thing where she would draw, just like

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<v Speaker 1>do this like freehand draw, how she would fill in

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<v Speaker 1>all the colors. Interesting, got her to do it on

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<v Speaker 1>a canvas. So this was actually Mother's Day last year.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave me this and that coffee machine and everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>they're pictures of Tristan smiling on a hiking trail at

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<v Speaker 1>Yosemite at Glacier National Park, carrying Clara in his arms

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<v Speaker 1>and Ev and a frame pack on his shoulders. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really happy. Yeah, you guys went out into the wilderness

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah, yeah, good, Yeah, I mean that was

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<v Speaker 1>old Tristan. He loved to do that stuff. Took me

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<v Speaker 1>a long time to be able to put up the

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of him, but yeah, you know, obviously, sorry, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a balance between still wanting to see pictures of him

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<v Speaker 1>and wanting the girls to be able to see pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of him. But balancing that was just still being really

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<v Speaker 1>hard for me. Yeah. I mean we have a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of like family pictures and stuff like that that I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to put up yet. Yeah. Sorry, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures are painful, but she knows they're important and

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<v Speaker 1>that pretty much captures her reason for talking to me.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants to create a portrait of Tristan that is

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<v Speaker 1>something other than his violent death. Erica and Tristan both

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Fresno, California, in the Central Valley, a

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<v Speaker 1>midsize city in the middle of farm country where the

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<v Speaker 1>credit card was invented and the modern landfill. Erica was

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth of five girls, serious, a little bit reserved.

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<v Speaker 1>In her senior year, she met Tristan, this happy, exuberant guy,

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<v Speaker 1>bursting with confidence. We met because we had a mutual

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<v Speaker 1>friend who was trying to find him a date for

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<v Speaker 1>a winter formal. So it was January of our senior

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<v Speaker 1>year in high school that we met. And did you

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<v Speaker 1>do you have an impression from that night or something

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<v Speaker 1>you remember? He was yeah, I mean he was a

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<v Speaker 1>happy guy, and he was very sort of just uncomplicated,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like he sort of just wore everything on

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<v Speaker 1>his sleeve. I think it's a testament to both of

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<v Speaker 1>you that that was not a super awkward I was

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<v Speaker 1>probably awkward. I'm sure it was awkward, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely like first serious boyfriend. I mean, yeah, After high school,

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<v Speaker 1>Erica went to Stanford, Tristan went abroad for a year

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<v Speaker 1>and then do you see San Diego. At his graduation,

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<v Speaker 1>he surprised everyone he had the highest GPA in his college.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of those it just like came very

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<v Speaker 1>easily to him, kind of every you know what he

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<v Speaker 1>was good at in terms of the chemistry, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like for me, like I've always you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I have to study a lot to know what I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But he just like knew it and it would click

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<v Speaker 1>and he was Yeah, he was the smartest person I knew. Then.

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<v Speaker 1>He was at Berkeley for grad school and chemistry and

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<v Speaker 1>she was in San Francisco for medical school. They moved

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<v Speaker 1>in together and then got married in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>eight when she was twenty six and he was twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Right away, Tristan made himself an indispensable part of Erica's family.

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan's personality was just you know, he got along with everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. He was one of those people where he

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<v Speaker 1>had like zero social anxiety. With four sisters, Erica had

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<v Speaker 1>a pack of brothers in law, and Tristan became their ringleader.

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<v Speaker 1>He loved to plan a twenty person family dinner, a

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<v Speaker 1>trip to Hawaii, and especially any kind of outdoor adventure,

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<v Speaker 1>and once he became a father, his love of nature

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<v Speaker 1>took on a whole new dimension. Clara or would ask

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<v Speaker 1>a question like how you know where are the cloud

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<v Speaker 1>come from? Or where is a rain coming from? And

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<v Speaker 1>he would give like a scientifically accurate answer that she

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<v Speaker 1>could understand, you know, at three or four. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I loved was that he used to teach

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<v Speaker 1>the girls stuff like that, you know, like he knew

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. The days before Tristan died are

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<v Speaker 1>bright in Erica's memory, super saturated. First there was Father's Day,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was just a couple of days before he passed.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to the beach because that's what he said

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to do, and I remember we It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a really beautiful day and it was super sunny,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tristan set up like a little sunshade, and the

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<v Speaker 1>girls were playing in the waves. They were letting the

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<v Speaker 1>waves chase them, and I remember running after them and

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan running after them, and I remember sort of looking

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<v Speaker 1>at them, the three of them, and just thinking how

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<v Speaker 1>lucky I was to have them. After Father's Day, they

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<v Speaker 1>started getting ready for their move up to the Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 1>Erica was really busy. She had her big exam on

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<v Speaker 1>June twenty second and was studying non stop in between

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<v Speaker 1>shifts at the hospital. So he was he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's perfect. I'll get them out of the

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<v Speaker 1>house Thursday night. You'll have you know, you'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on the test, do whatever you need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be able to take. But Ivie was a little

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<v Speaker 1>sick that week, and Erica was secretly hoping they would

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<v Speaker 1>just stay home. She hated it when they left. She

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<v Speaker 1>always worried they waffled into the last minute, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was their last week in southern California, maybe their last chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan decided to go for it. We all woke up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit late and he made the girl's breakfast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember were sort of helping them get out

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<v Speaker 1>the door, getting the girls dressed and braiding their hair,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I remember, the one thing Tristan couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do was anything with their hair. So we we braiding

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<v Speaker 1>both of the girls hair and be like, okay, just

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<v Speaker 1>leave it like this un till you guys get back.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, he was just in such a good mood.

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<v Speaker 1>He you know, like I said, his The trip for

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<v Speaker 1>him started as soon as he started planning it. So

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<v Speaker 1>he was getting all the gear together and um pet

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<v Speaker 1>loading up the car, and I remember he put the

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<v Speaker 1>bikes on the roof, you know, and we both thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was super cute that m that my daughter's bike

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<v Speaker 1>was next to his. I remember girls putting their shoes on,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, my older one helping the little one put

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<v Speaker 1>her shoes on so that they could get out the door.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were just so excited to, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>go on this trip with daddy. Yeah, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's like in retrospect, but I think part of me

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<v Speaker 1>that like had, was a little bit anxious saying bye

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<v Speaker 1>to them. And I remember feeling that way as they

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<v Speaker 1>were leaving. Um, when he loaded the girls first, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he came back and sort of held open the

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<v Speaker 1>garage door to say bye to me, and UM, I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember saying telling him to be careful. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>was always worried about the girls. Again, I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was so untouchable. UM, but I remember just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be careful with them, drive safe. You've precious

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<v Speaker 1>cargo in your back seat. Um, come back. I would

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<v Speaker 1>always say stuff like that, you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like worried. L right, did something like bring

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<v Speaker 1>them back to me. You can all come back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you come back together. Um. You know, he just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did what he always said to be, like Erica, don't worry,

0:17:00.316 --> 0:17:02.716
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be fine. You know, nothing can happen, you know,

0:17:04.276 --> 0:17:07.276
<v Speaker 1>being out there, that was like his sanctuary, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like he didn't think something. He would never believe that

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<v Speaker 1>something like that could have happened. And I just remember

0:17:14.116 --> 0:17:17.076
<v Speaker 1>him saying, yeah, I just go study, take your test.

0:17:17.916 --> 0:17:26.276
<v Speaker 1>By the time you're done, will be back. We'll celebrate. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he just you know kissed me on the chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>He was gone, gosh, And I feel like I can

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<v Speaker 1>still remember what what he felt like standing there. You know,

0:17:51.076 --> 0:17:55.276
<v Speaker 1>he was just so there one minute and then so

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<v Speaker 1>god the next. Tristan sent her texts and pictures throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the day. The last one was late just before bed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's he said Evie was maybe halvy hard times.

0:18:46.556 --> 0:18:51.236
<v Speaker 1>I mean she was too, but he would send me

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<v Speaker 1>like thumbs up. You know. I think he sent me

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<v Speaker 1>like a thumbs up, And he said, you know, study hard.

0:18:58.356 --> 0:19:04.156
<v Speaker 1>You know what he would always say, losing Tristan. Erica

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<v Speaker 1>feels she lost everything, not just her husband, but herself.

0:19:09.316 --> 0:19:13.076
<v Speaker 1>That Erica, the Erica that was Tristan's wife, is gone,

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<v Speaker 1>and the girls who they were when their father was alive,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gone. To the family as it was, it disappeared forever.

0:19:23.956 --> 0:19:36.716
<v Speaker 1>God losing him in front of them. How that what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of impact that has on them? You know in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, I feel like, uh, that sort of family

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<v Speaker 1>that I had died too, you know, like part of me,

0:19:49.476 --> 0:19:58.396
<v Speaker 1>part of them. Life with Tristan was in full color.

0:19:59.516 --> 0:20:02.476
<v Speaker 1>Now the three of them are surviving in the grade

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<v Speaker 1>out time after. From the minute Erica set foot in

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<v Speaker 1>Lost Hills Station on the morning of Tristan's death, she

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<v Speaker 1>says she struggled to get information about the case. The

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's department keeps sighting the ongoing investigation, telling her only

0:20:26.076 --> 0:20:30.396
<v Speaker 1>the bare minimum. There was only one way to get answers,

0:20:30.396 --> 0:20:33.476
<v Speaker 1>she tells me. A few months before I met her,

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<v Speaker 1>she filed a ninety million dollars claim with the county.

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<v Speaker 1>She names Anthony Rowda as liable in her husband's death,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's almost an afterthought. The Sheriff's department in California

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<v Speaker 1>State parks. She alleges they acted with deliberate indifference and negligence.

0:20:52.476 --> 0:20:55.476
<v Speaker 1>They willfully created the conditions for the shooting to occur.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a danger, they knew about it, she claims,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't tell anyone. It's their fault. She says

0:21:05.156 --> 0:21:19.836
<v Speaker 1>that her husband is dead. History is made in the

0:21:19.956 --> 0:21:23.436
<v Speaker 1>race for La County Sheriff. In winning, Vienneueva ousted the

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<v Speaker 1>incumbent sheriff, Jim McDonald, a feat that has not been

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished and more than one hundred years. The upstart, the outsider,

0:21:32.716 --> 0:21:36.716
<v Speaker 1>Alex Viennueva retired at the rank of lieutenant. He never

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<v Speaker 1>even ran a station, and in November of twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>he's elected the new sheriff. Here are the basics about

0:21:45.956 --> 0:21:50.076
<v Speaker 1>the La County Sheriff's Department. It's not the lap LAPD

0:21:50.156 --> 0:21:53.636
<v Speaker 1>wears dark blue. Sheriff's deputies wear the khaki shirts and

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<v Speaker 1>green pants and have a big star on their chests

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<v Speaker 1>Old West style. The LAPD polices the city of La Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sheriff's department patrols the dozens of cities in the

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<v Speaker 1>county that don't have their own forces, like Malibu and

0:22:07.196 --> 0:22:11.196
<v Speaker 1>Calabasas as well as the town. These unincorporated areas like

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<v Speaker 1>where Malibu Creek State Park is in all, it has

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<v Speaker 1>something like ten thousand deputies who cover an area of

0:22:17.876 --> 0:22:21.476
<v Speaker 1>nearly three thousand square miles. They also worked the jails

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<v Speaker 1>and the courts. One more thing. For decades, the La

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's Department has been mired in scandal. Maybe you heard

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<v Speaker 1>of Lee Baca, two Sheriff's back. He's in prison now,

0:22:34.356 --> 0:22:37.876
<v Speaker 1>as is his under sheriff, Paul Tanaka, for obstructing an

0:22:37.916 --> 0:22:42.356
<v Speaker 1>FBI investigation into the treatment of inmates in the jail system.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Via Nueva says he's going to clean it all up.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds ambitious and frankly all consuming, and you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>think it would have much to do with sleepy, old,

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<v Speaker 1>fancy old Malibu. Please give a more round of applies.

0:23:03.436 --> 0:23:06.476
<v Speaker 1>But here he is at Duke's, a surfer themed restaurant

0:23:06.476 --> 0:23:09.596
<v Speaker 1>on the beach side of Pacific Coast Highway, talking about

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<v Speaker 1>fixing Malibu's problems too. Everyone Cecie Woods and the mayor

0:23:16.796 --> 0:23:20.796
<v Speaker 1>and everyone were coming for a tendency. It's all thanks

0:23:20.836 --> 0:23:24.116
<v Speaker 1>to Cecie Woods, the Malibu activist who broke the story

0:23:24.116 --> 0:23:26.476
<v Speaker 1>of the near misses and has been calling out the

0:23:26.516 --> 0:23:29.836
<v Speaker 1>Lost Hills cops for as she sees it, lying to

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<v Speaker 1>the community. She was a vocal cheerleader for Vienneueva during

0:23:34.316 --> 0:23:37.916
<v Speaker 1>his outsider campaign. She used her social media feeds and

0:23:37.996 --> 0:23:41.156
<v Speaker 1>her website, The Local, to celebrate him and run down

0:23:41.196 --> 0:23:44.116
<v Speaker 1>his opponent, who she blamed for the problems at Lost Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had the occasion just a few weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>to do a town on the Lost Hills stationary for

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<v Speaker 1>aolve all the cities. But now we're here specifically for

0:23:53.036 --> 0:23:56.756
<v Speaker 1>the Malibu community and your particu Garne, which were slightly

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<v Speaker 1>different from the ones that are sitar the other side

0:23:58.996 --> 0:24:02.996
<v Speaker 1>of the hill range. And now it looks like Ceci's

0:24:02.996 --> 0:24:06.996
<v Speaker 1>support is being rewarded. There she is in the front

0:24:07.076 --> 0:24:13.156
<v Speaker 1>row in a leopard print dress, thing to Viennueva expert.

0:24:13.836 --> 0:24:16.316
<v Speaker 1>He sits back down and I see she wasn't kidding.

0:24:17.116 --> 0:24:21.996
<v Speaker 1>She has the sheriff's ear. Literally she's leaning over whispering

0:24:22.036 --> 0:24:26.716
<v Speaker 1>into it. I wonder what this all means. Will Cecie,

0:24:26.836 --> 0:24:29.036
<v Speaker 1>with her access to the new sheriff, be able to

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<v Speaker 1>find out what no one seems to know what really

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<v Speaker 1>happened in Malibu. How the shootings could go on for

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<v Speaker 1>so long unchecked until finally someone got killed. Anthony Rowda's

0:24:56.596 --> 0:25:00.476
<v Speaker 1>case is creeping through preliminary hearings, and the prosecutor says

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<v Speaker 1>that the Sheriff's department is still working on ballistics. Also,

0:25:04.116 --> 0:25:08.476
<v Speaker 1>they discovered seven electronic devices in Rowdas's camp. That's a

0:25:08.516 --> 0:25:11.476
<v Speaker 1>lot of self and computers and kindles for hermit who

0:25:11.516 --> 0:25:14.436
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to talk to anyone. They all need to

0:25:14.436 --> 0:25:17.716
<v Speaker 1>be analyzed, which is going to take even more time.

0:25:22.196 --> 0:25:25.516
<v Speaker 1>But Cecie Woods doesn't need to wait. She's getting a

0:25:25.556 --> 0:25:29.796
<v Speaker 1>constant stream of information about the investigation, not just from

0:25:29.836 --> 0:25:34.196
<v Speaker 1>her new highly placed friends in law enforcement, but from

0:25:34.196 --> 0:25:37.436
<v Speaker 1>her tea leaf reader. No no, no, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>go like every six months, and then there was like

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half break maybe higher, and then

0:25:44.236 --> 0:25:48.596
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, the last city council election and

0:25:48.756 --> 0:25:50.756
<v Speaker 1>my marriage going down the tubes. I'm like time to

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<v Speaker 1>call Monica, like everything was going to Monica source Ceci's

0:25:54.956 --> 0:25:58.876
<v Speaker 1>psychic source. Ceci doesn't think Routa did it, and she

0:25:58.996 --> 0:26:02.796
<v Speaker 1>wants to find out who did, and more important, what

0:26:02.836 --> 0:26:06.156
<v Speaker 1>the cops did wrong. And I have literally had more

0:26:06.196 --> 0:26:10.916
<v Speaker 1>than forty nine readings since, which is so not the norm.

0:26:11.396 --> 0:26:13.916
<v Speaker 1>But now since she's seen that, every time I have

0:26:13.956 --> 0:26:17.556
<v Speaker 1>a reading, new information comes up. Now she doesn't ignore me.

0:26:17.636 --> 0:26:21.556
<v Speaker 1>She knows shit's going down, and so she better. It's

0:26:21.796 --> 0:26:26.276
<v Speaker 1>tax Monica emergency, it's urgent. Shit's going down. So I've

0:26:26.396 --> 0:26:30.276
<v Speaker 1>got to see this one day, Cecie lets me tag along.

0:26:30.636 --> 0:26:34.916
<v Speaker 1>My psychicness started in through dreams. I do have a

0:26:34.956 --> 0:26:37.956
<v Speaker 1>spirit guide that works with me. He's actually the one

0:26:37.956 --> 0:26:40.396
<v Speaker 1>who does the reading and he speaks to me. He's

0:26:40.436 --> 0:26:43.396
<v Speaker 1>a virgo. He's very you know, because he's kind of quirky.

0:26:43.596 --> 0:26:45.796
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes it's like a riddle, you know, and you

0:26:45.836 --> 0:26:47.596
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of figure it out, or it comes

0:26:47.636 --> 0:26:49.996
<v Speaker 1>up in a quirky way. You know, it'll show up, like,

0:26:50.036 --> 0:26:51.956
<v Speaker 1>for instance, one time I said to somebody, I see

0:26:51.956 --> 0:26:54.076
<v Speaker 1>Howard Stern in your cup and they're like what, And

0:26:54.116 --> 0:26:56.036
<v Speaker 1>then a couple of weeks, a couple of weeks later,

0:26:56.076 --> 0:26:57.636
<v Speaker 1>she bumped into him in a seven to eleven. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean quirky, it's like, it's yeah. Monica Source lives

0:27:02.836 --> 0:27:05.356
<v Speaker 1>with a roommate in a cookie cutter stucco house on

0:27:05.396 --> 0:27:08.636
<v Speaker 1>a four lane road in Burbank She does her readings

0:27:08.636 --> 0:27:12.796
<v Speaker 1>in a time knee paneled room. There are owls everywhere,

0:27:13.396 --> 0:27:18.596
<v Speaker 1>big small, ceramic, stuffed, perched, peering, sharp beaked, like the

0:27:18.636 --> 0:27:24.036
<v Speaker 1>world's creepiest bed and breakfast. Her two dogs, Wolfman and Bandit,

0:27:24.236 --> 0:27:27.876
<v Speaker 1>suffer from anxiety, she says, so during readings she holds

0:27:27.876 --> 0:27:30.636
<v Speaker 1>them in her lap. Cecie, pick your tea and put

0:27:30.676 --> 0:27:33.836
<v Speaker 1>two tea spoons in your cup. The table is set

0:27:33.876 --> 0:27:36.916
<v Speaker 1>with a red checked tablecloth, blue and white china, and

0:27:37.076 --> 0:27:40.316
<v Speaker 1>glass jars filled with loose leaf tea. And then when

0:27:40.356 --> 0:27:42.836
<v Speaker 1>she gets her tea in there and drinks it, she's

0:27:42.876 --> 0:27:45.516
<v Speaker 1>gonna stir it three times. Three's a magic number. Three's

0:27:45.516 --> 0:27:48.956
<v Speaker 1>a magical number. Cecie has two cell phones out, one

0:27:48.996 --> 0:27:52.276
<v Speaker 1>for taping, one for taking notes. She's on the edge

0:27:52.316 --> 0:27:55.036
<v Speaker 1>of her seat. Okay, you done, good man? Do you

0:27:55.036 --> 0:27:57.276
<v Speaker 1>remember what to do? Cecie puts the saucer on the

0:27:57.316 --> 0:27:59.676
<v Speaker 1>cup and inverts it like she's flipping a cake out

0:27:59.716 --> 0:28:02.396
<v Speaker 1>of a pan. One hand on the cup, the other

0:28:02.476 --> 0:28:06.596
<v Speaker 1>spinning the saucer. Am I at three, yeah, I embrace it,

0:28:06.636 --> 0:28:10.316
<v Speaker 1>Embrace it. Monica. Source lifts the returned cop off the

0:28:10.396 --> 0:28:13.236
<v Speaker 1>saucer and stares into the drags left on the plate.

0:28:14.676 --> 0:28:17.636
<v Speaker 1>It looks like Tea leaves to me, but she starts

0:28:17.756 --> 0:28:23.796
<v Speaker 1>channeling her spirit guide. The dogs get anxious. Gotcha, Okay,

0:28:23.876 --> 0:28:26.996
<v Speaker 1>here we go. Um, I'm getting some initials around you.

0:28:27.076 --> 0:28:29.596
<v Speaker 1>Of course, I'm getting the j's, I'm getting the s is.

0:28:30.516 --> 0:28:36.116
<v Speaker 1>It is actually spelling out cops. Um, so you're definitely

0:28:36.116 --> 0:28:40.956
<v Speaker 1>going to be around cops. She's getting Italian energy and

0:28:41.396 --> 0:28:46.556
<v Speaker 1>Celtic energy and some Hispanic energy and some strong Asian energy.

0:28:47.036 --> 0:28:50.476
<v Speaker 1>She's getting a Rob and a Joe. Is he bad

0:28:50.636 --> 0:28:54.996
<v Speaker 1>bad coped? Good copy yet? Okay? Because I'm getting morals,

0:28:56.756 --> 0:29:02.076
<v Speaker 1>m could be okay, And then it's simply spelling out proof.

0:29:02.596 --> 0:29:04.636
<v Speaker 1>So there is going to be proof. You are going

0:29:04.716 --> 0:29:07.236
<v Speaker 1>to prove some things that are going down, and you

0:29:07.276 --> 0:29:10.356
<v Speaker 1>have the proof. So we'll find the prof. And this patrol.

0:29:10.436 --> 0:29:13.636
<v Speaker 1>Do they do patrol by horses around there? Two? Malibu

0:29:13.716 --> 0:29:16.236
<v Speaker 1>Creek State Park? Because that's what I'm getting. The patrol

0:29:16.356 --> 0:29:19.636
<v Speaker 1>is like by someone on a horse. Okay, so that

0:29:19.716 --> 0:29:22.396
<v Speaker 1>could still be involved with Malba Creek State Park because

0:29:22.516 --> 0:29:26.156
<v Speaker 1>Rouda did not do it. I'm telling you Rowda did

0:29:26.156 --> 0:29:28.356
<v Speaker 1>not do it. Josh. I don't know if we got

0:29:28.436 --> 0:29:31.636
<v Speaker 1>Josh before. But I'm getting like a Josh or Okay, yeah,

0:29:31.756 --> 0:29:35.276
<v Speaker 1>we got that. I just actually heard an issue with

0:29:35.356 --> 0:29:40.076
<v Speaker 1>a Josh today. CC does not observe the psychic firewall,

0:29:40.836 --> 0:29:43.516
<v Speaker 1>So sitting in on her session with Monica sources an

0:29:43.756 --> 0:29:46.836
<v Speaker 1>opportunity for me to hear what she's picking up from

0:29:46.836 --> 0:29:50.636
<v Speaker 1>her other sources in law enforcement about what's going on

0:29:50.716 --> 0:29:55.476
<v Speaker 1>inside Lost Hill Station. You're kidding a cop. Oh yeah,

0:29:55.516 --> 0:29:58.036
<v Speaker 1>something's coming in with the cop for sure, for sure. Okay,

0:29:58.116 --> 0:30:04.996
<v Speaker 1>And I'm also getting Tuesday or Thursday being oh my god, CIA,

0:30:05.076 --> 0:30:07.836
<v Speaker 1>I have to admit she's losing me. Yeah, but it

0:30:07.876 --> 0:30:13.476
<v Speaker 1>doesn't CIA like globe bullshit. Tuesday Thursday, the CIA. Why

0:30:13.516 --> 0:30:16.076
<v Speaker 1>would they call it the CIA? Yeah? Who knows. I

0:30:16.076 --> 0:30:20.116
<v Speaker 1>could stumble upon something that maybe I mean right now,

0:30:20.196 --> 0:30:22.636
<v Speaker 1>the tea people. Who are the tee people, Well, there's

0:30:22.636 --> 0:30:26.916
<v Speaker 1>a couple tea people. There is Sergeant Twee right, but

0:30:27.116 --> 0:30:31.836
<v Speaker 1>now I snapped to attention Sergeant Twee Wright. He's the

0:30:31.836 --> 0:30:34.156
<v Speaker 1>guy who took me on the helicopter ride. Good cop,

0:30:34.196 --> 0:30:38.436
<v Speaker 1>bad cop. I think Twee is a bad cop. She

0:30:38.556 --> 0:30:41.436
<v Speaker 1>thinks Sergeant Writes a bad cop. Yeah, because one of

0:30:41.436 --> 0:30:43.916
<v Speaker 1>them looks like it's not looking too good for them either.

0:30:50.556 --> 0:30:55.636
<v Speaker 1>I'll read it with that. After the session's over. I

0:30:55.676 --> 0:30:58.316
<v Speaker 1>sit in the car with Ceci for a minute. It's

0:30:58.356 --> 0:31:00.916
<v Speaker 1>clear how little she thinks of the Lost Tail Sheriff station.

0:31:01.916 --> 0:31:06.156
<v Speaker 1>But now I find out something new and alarming. Alex

0:31:06.196 --> 0:31:08.556
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even know this ship was going on if we

0:31:08.636 --> 0:31:14.076
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell hold on a second Alex, Alex via Nueva,

0:31:14.516 --> 0:31:19.956
<v Speaker 1>the new La County Sheriff arftural loss mopos that need

0:31:20.036 --> 0:31:24.636
<v Speaker 1>some direction, Well, hopefully they're gonna get it now from Alex.

0:31:24.716 --> 0:31:27.756
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and that's why we voted for him, because

0:31:27.916 --> 0:31:33.316
<v Speaker 1>we want him to succeed. We want him to turn

0:31:33.396 --> 0:31:36.876
<v Speaker 1>this damn department around. Yes, Lost Souls is a perfect

0:31:37.396 --> 0:31:44.476
<v Speaker 1>name for him. It sounds like Cecy's feeding the sheriff information,

0:31:45.436 --> 0:31:50.276
<v Speaker 1>possibly from her tea leafreetings. And just like him, she's

0:31:50.316 --> 0:31:54.556
<v Speaker 1>gone from being a total outsider to a total insider.

0:32:16.276 --> 0:32:19.636
<v Speaker 1>CEC and I don't share methods, not at all, But

0:32:19.756 --> 0:32:22.196
<v Speaker 1>there are ways of finding out if someone is a

0:32:22.236 --> 0:32:26.876
<v Speaker 1>bad cop. The Sheriff's department doesn't like to share personnel records.

0:32:27.036 --> 0:32:29.916
<v Speaker 1>You basically have to sue to get them. I put

0:32:29.916 --> 0:32:32.756
<v Speaker 1>in a public records request and they tell me essentially

0:32:33.156 --> 0:32:37.476
<v Speaker 1>get in line. But the District Attorney's office does keep

0:32:37.556 --> 0:32:41.316
<v Speaker 1>files on cops with histories of misconduct, cops they've been

0:32:41.316 --> 0:32:45.196
<v Speaker 1>asked to investigate, and they're supposed to keep these records

0:32:45.436 --> 0:32:49.116
<v Speaker 1>even if they never file charges. That's because if a

0:32:49.156 --> 0:32:51.636
<v Speaker 1>cop is called on to testify in court and has

0:32:51.676 --> 0:32:54.636
<v Speaker 1>a history of misconduct, the defense is entitled to know

0:32:54.756 --> 0:33:00.036
<v Speaker 1>that it's considered exculpatory. So I submit a series of

0:33:00.076 --> 0:33:03.356
<v Speaker 1>requests to the DA asking about every name I can

0:33:03.396 --> 0:33:07.156
<v Speaker 1>find involved with the Malibu case. I also try to

0:33:07.196 --> 0:33:10.516
<v Speaker 1>get to know Sergeant Twoey Wright, the Lost Hills detective

0:33:10.556 --> 0:33:13.556
<v Speaker 1>who seems to be the center of the ROUTA investigation.

0:33:16.116 --> 0:33:20.196
<v Speaker 1>All right, are you ready? Can you say who you are?

0:33:21.116 --> 0:33:25.996
<v Speaker 1>I remember you, I'm hard to hear. Right. After hounding

0:33:26.036 --> 0:33:27.796
<v Speaker 1>him for months, I got him to give me that

0:33:27.836 --> 0:33:32.276
<v Speaker 1>helicopter tour of Malibu's killing zone, and today he's sitting

0:33:32.276 --> 0:33:35.436
<v Speaker 1>down with me to do an interview. Sergeant Wright is,

0:33:35.556 --> 0:33:38.196
<v Speaker 1>by his own description, not totally at home in the

0:33:38.236 --> 0:33:41.556
<v Speaker 1>culture of the Sheriff's department. He's an ex marine and

0:33:41.676 --> 0:33:44.396
<v Speaker 1>a vegan and a bow hunter who grew up into

0:33:44.396 --> 0:33:48.316
<v Speaker 1>Panga Canyon a hippie trippy enclave in Lost Hill's jurisdiction.

0:33:49.316 --> 0:33:52.996
<v Speaker 1>He's also gotten dozens of awards and commendations, especially for

0:33:53.076 --> 0:33:57.036
<v Speaker 1>his work leading the Malibu Search and Rescue team. He's conflicted.

0:33:57.276 --> 0:34:00.196
<v Speaker 1>He loves the Sheriff's department devoted his life to it,

0:34:01.156 --> 0:34:03.756
<v Speaker 1>but he says he wants to tell me the real story,

0:34:04.596 --> 0:34:07.556
<v Speaker 1>the truth about what went on behind the scenes at

0:34:07.596 --> 0:34:12.476
<v Speaker 1>Lost Hills Station before and after Tristan Boudatt was killed.

0:34:13.636 --> 0:34:18.716
<v Speaker 1>I've got so many questions. There were three shootings in

0:34:19.436 --> 0:34:26.196
<v Speaker 1>Malibu Creek State Park in late twenty sixteen through January

0:34:26.236 --> 0:34:31.716
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen. I'm imagining because it is a small community

0:34:31.996 --> 0:34:36.196
<v Speaker 1>and Malibu Last Hills Sheriff Station is just a few

0:34:36.236 --> 0:34:39.236
<v Speaker 1>miles from the park, that you would have heard about

0:34:39.356 --> 0:34:44.196
<v Speaker 1>those shootings in the park, right. Well. I did eventually

0:34:44.196 --> 0:34:48.636
<v Speaker 1>hear about those shootings. I had only heard about them

0:34:49.356 --> 0:34:54.956
<v Speaker 1>when the state park supervisors called Lieutenant Royal and told

0:34:54.996 --> 0:34:59.076
<v Speaker 1>them that they had a series of crimes that they

0:34:59.116 --> 0:35:03.756
<v Speaker 1>wanted him to weigh in on near Missus one through three.

0:35:03.836 --> 0:35:07.476
<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Wright tells me all happened on state park property,

0:35:07.756 --> 0:35:11.716
<v Speaker 1>so it was the rangers respon ability to investigate. California

0:35:11.756 --> 0:35:15.716
<v Speaker 1>State Parks is a separate law enforcement agency. They investigate

0:35:15.796 --> 0:35:19.356
<v Speaker 1>the majority of their own crimes, and they make arrests

0:35:19.796 --> 0:35:22.996
<v Speaker 1>their full peace officers in the state of California. The

0:35:23.036 --> 0:35:27.036
<v Speaker 1>shootings were in State Parks jurisdiction, but they didn't get solved,

0:35:27.556 --> 0:35:30.996
<v Speaker 1>and the problem didn't seem to be going away. When

0:35:30.996 --> 0:35:33.916
<v Speaker 1>you have three shootings in a particular period of time,

0:35:34.036 --> 0:35:37.396
<v Speaker 1>in the same area and with the same type of

0:35:37.436 --> 0:35:42.076
<v Speaker 1>weapon at the same time of day, it makes you think,

0:35:42.916 --> 0:35:47.036
<v Speaker 1>I mean, these are unknown an unknown assailant that fired

0:35:47.076 --> 0:35:50.276
<v Speaker 1>from the dark and disappeared into the night, always one shot.

0:35:50.916 --> 0:35:54.516
<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant Royal was Sergeant Right supervisor, and they were both concerned.

0:35:55.036 --> 0:35:57.116
<v Speaker 1>But when they took the information to their bosses at

0:35:57.116 --> 0:36:00.436
<v Speaker 1>the station, Sergeant Right says, the bosses blew them off.

0:36:00.996 --> 0:36:03.636
<v Speaker 1>I was told by the captain that it was a

0:36:03.676 --> 0:36:08.996
<v Speaker 1>State Parks problem, and obviously Lieutenant Royal told talked to him.

0:36:09.236 --> 0:36:11.716
<v Speaker 1>I talked to him about it, and there was concern

0:36:11.796 --> 0:36:15.236
<v Speaker 1>on our part because it's right down the street. It

0:36:15.316 --> 0:36:18.756
<v Speaker 1>might technically be in the State Parks jurisdiction, but who's

0:36:18.836 --> 0:36:22.276
<v Speaker 1>to say it couldn't spill out into ours. It just

0:36:22.316 --> 0:36:27.036
<v Speaker 1>didn't seem like there was much interesting at the supervisory

0:36:27.076 --> 0:36:32.636
<v Speaker 1>levels above us. Five months after Sergeant Right and Lieutenant

0:36:32.676 --> 0:36:34.956
<v Speaker 1>Royal learned about the three near misses in the park,

0:36:35.476 --> 0:36:39.436
<v Speaker 1>there was another shooting, this time in Lost Hills jurisdiction,

0:36:40.076 --> 0:36:43.796
<v Speaker 1>the white Porsche on the Canyon Road at four thirty am.

0:36:43.956 --> 0:36:45.756
<v Speaker 1>That was the one where the driver had to drive

0:36:45.836 --> 0:36:48.836
<v Speaker 1>himself to the station to make a report, even after

0:36:48.916 --> 0:36:55.356
<v Speaker 1>calling nine one near miss number four. Six weeks after

0:36:55.396 --> 0:36:59.316
<v Speaker 1>that near miss number five, a teenager driving her mother's

0:36:59.316 --> 0:37:02.196
<v Speaker 1>white BMW on her way to a surf competition with

0:37:02.236 --> 0:37:07.156
<v Speaker 1>a friend, same road, same time, something hit the car,

0:37:07.276 --> 0:37:10.356
<v Speaker 1>blowing out a back window. Fearing for their lives, the

0:37:10.396 --> 0:37:13.596
<v Speaker 1>teenagers sped away and when they got to Sir Frider Beach,

0:37:13.636 --> 0:37:15.556
<v Speaker 1>they saw that the back of the car was riddled

0:37:15.556 --> 0:37:22.116
<v Speaker 1>with holes, pellets from bird shot lodged in the rear lights.

0:37:23.276 --> 0:37:27.356
<v Speaker 1>We went out and investigated that, and I personally went

0:37:27.356 --> 0:37:30.836
<v Speaker 1>out and looked at the scene, and we searched for evidence,

0:37:31.036 --> 0:37:37.796
<v Speaker 1>and I found a shotgun wadding that I believe came

0:37:37.836 --> 0:37:41.036
<v Speaker 1>from the shot, and I believe it gave me an

0:37:41.036 --> 0:37:45.036
<v Speaker 1>indication or where the shot was fired from. By then,

0:37:45.396 --> 0:37:49.396
<v Speaker 1>July twenty seventeen, eleven months before Tristan Boudatt was killed,

0:37:49.756 --> 0:37:52.876
<v Speaker 1>there had been five near misses, three in the park

0:37:53.036 --> 0:37:56.636
<v Speaker 1>and two on the road. There was a puzzling if

0:37:56.636 --> 0:38:04.356
<v Speaker 1>distinct pattern, location, time, ammunition, a single shot. Well certainly

0:38:04.876 --> 0:38:10.276
<v Speaker 1>the crimes the shootings occurred in the we morning hours,

0:38:10.356 --> 0:38:14.636
<v Speaker 1>just before dawn, so that was one one thing that

0:38:14.756 --> 0:38:19.276
<v Speaker 1>was consistent in his m A. The other was, of course,

0:38:19.316 --> 0:38:21.996
<v Speaker 1>as you know in the beginning, a shotgun was used,

0:38:21.996 --> 0:38:27.436
<v Speaker 1>so same weapon and one shot fired. That was pretty consistent.

0:38:27.916 --> 0:38:31.956
<v Speaker 1>And the location was a huge issue inside the state

0:38:31.956 --> 0:38:35.836
<v Speaker 1>park and one particular campground. The state park is huge,

0:38:36.556 --> 0:38:40.596
<v Speaker 1>but one particular campground not spread all over one spot,

0:38:41.316 --> 0:38:46.036
<v Speaker 1>within a few camp spaces of another, and then finally

0:38:46.116 --> 0:38:50.116
<v Speaker 1>on the highway adjacent to the campground in the same spot.

0:38:51.916 --> 0:38:58.276
<v Speaker 1>So those were consistent patterns that I think indicated a

0:38:58.356 --> 0:39:02.876
<v Speaker 1>serial shooter. I think there's only common sense to be

0:39:02.916 --> 0:39:05.916
<v Speaker 1>able to see that. Sergeant Wright says he and Lieutenant

0:39:05.996 --> 0:39:09.916
<v Speaker 1>Royal were frustrated and fearful. When Wright told me in

0:39:09.956 --> 0:39:12.956
<v Speaker 1>the helicopter that it was quote our greatest fear that

0:39:12.996 --> 0:39:15.676
<v Speaker 1>the shooter would kill someone, he meant it was his

0:39:15.756 --> 0:39:19.636
<v Speaker 1>and Lieutenant Royal's greatest fear. But they couldn't get traction

0:39:19.716 --> 0:39:24.836
<v Speaker 1>with their theory to be told by other investigators or

0:39:24.876 --> 0:39:27.716
<v Speaker 1>the department. There was no evidence or there was not

0:39:27.916 --> 0:39:31.196
<v Speaker 1>enough information to link these crimes. I just thought it

0:39:31.276 --> 0:39:34.716
<v Speaker 1>was ridiculous. It wasn't my opinion. But while the investigation

0:39:34.836 --> 0:39:38.076
<v Speaker 1>was sputtering along, word of a shooter got out among

0:39:38.076 --> 0:39:42.556
<v Speaker 1>the deputies. We all knew where the shooting grounds, and

0:39:42.996 --> 0:39:47.396
<v Speaker 1>I had heard rumors at patrol cars. Some patrol cars

0:39:47.396 --> 0:39:50.876
<v Speaker 1>would go by at high speed with their guns out

0:39:50.916 --> 0:39:55.196
<v Speaker 1>the window pointed in that direction, and I believe people

0:39:55.236 --> 0:39:59.716
<v Speaker 1>that knew warned their family members not to drive by there.

0:40:01.676 --> 0:40:04.636
<v Speaker 1>This might be the most outrageous thing. Sergeant Wright has

0:40:04.636 --> 0:40:08.836
<v Speaker 1>told me. The threat was real. The deputies knew there

0:40:08.876 --> 0:40:10.756
<v Speaker 1>was a shooter in the area and that he might

0:40:10.836 --> 0:40:15.356
<v Speaker 1>kill someone. They were scared, but the department still didn't

0:40:15.396 --> 0:40:20.796
<v Speaker 1>warn the public, and then the shooting stopped for the

0:40:20.836 --> 0:40:24.716
<v Speaker 1>next eleven months. There was a lull, which, if anything,

0:40:24.836 --> 0:40:28.716
<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Wright says, made him more nervous. We were wondering

0:40:28.796 --> 0:40:31.676
<v Speaker 1>during the gap what the heck was going on. And

0:40:32.796 --> 0:40:36.316
<v Speaker 1>I had told Lieutenant Royal that I believe we had

0:40:36.356 --> 0:40:39.076
<v Speaker 1>a serial shooter. I actually told him I thought we

0:40:39.116 --> 0:40:41.676
<v Speaker 1>had a serial killer that had not killed yet in

0:40:41.716 --> 0:40:46.636
<v Speaker 1>our area, that we knew of a serial killer in Malibu.

0:40:48.636 --> 0:40:51.116
<v Speaker 1>The lull in the shootings was shattered in June twenty

0:40:51.396 --> 0:40:54.316
<v Speaker 1>eighteen when the white Tesla was hit on the Canyon

0:40:54.396 --> 0:40:59.636
<v Speaker 1>Road near Miss Number six. Four days later, Tristan Boudett

0:40:59.716 --> 0:41:07.716
<v Speaker 1>was killed in his tent after the murder. The detectives

0:41:07.756 --> 0:41:11.396
<v Speaker 1>from Homicide and Major Crimes showed up after the murder.

0:41:12.076 --> 0:41:18.596
<v Speaker 1>Obviously the department was taking note and there was more interest.

0:41:19.796 --> 0:41:21.996
<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Wright says that his search and rescue team was

0:41:22.036 --> 0:41:25.636
<v Speaker 1>told to keep assisting with the investigation. They knew the area,

0:41:25.996 --> 0:41:28.836
<v Speaker 1>they could be helpful, and as far as he's concerned,

0:41:29.236 --> 0:41:31.756
<v Speaker 1>they were. We were there the day of the murder,

0:41:32.396 --> 0:41:38.196
<v Speaker 1>and later Homicide went back with one of their volunteer

0:41:38.236 --> 0:41:43.956
<v Speaker 1>teams to try and find shellcasings and they were unable

0:41:43.996 --> 0:41:46.156
<v Speaker 1>to do so. When I heard that they found nothing,

0:41:46.836 --> 0:41:50.796
<v Speaker 1>I asked them if they wanted me to take a

0:41:50.876 --> 0:41:53.716
<v Speaker 1>crack at searching with my team, and they stood by

0:41:53.756 --> 0:41:57.156
<v Speaker 1>all means, so we went back a week after Boudette

0:41:57.196 --> 0:41:59.676
<v Speaker 1>was killed. He says his search and rescue team used

0:41:59.716 --> 0:42:03.236
<v Speaker 1>metal detectors and found five nine millimeter shell casings in

0:42:03.236 --> 0:42:06.876
<v Speaker 1>the campground. It looked like multiple rounds had been fired,

0:42:06.956 --> 0:42:09.436
<v Speaker 1>though it was hard to say for sure. Two of

0:42:09.436 --> 0:42:13.516
<v Speaker 1>the casings were so rusted their headstamps were illegible. And

0:42:13.836 --> 0:42:17.356
<v Speaker 1>that was a great farm. Homicide was ecstatic. He came

0:42:17.396 --> 0:42:21.676
<v Speaker 1>out to the scene. They were very happy. Later, Sergeant

0:42:21.676 --> 0:42:25.356
<v Speaker 1>Wright decided to go looking for the actual bullets. Only one,

0:42:25.636 --> 0:42:28.676
<v Speaker 1>the one that killed Tristan Boudette, had ever been found,

0:42:28.716 --> 0:42:32.076
<v Speaker 1>lodged in his right shoulder blade, but the tent showed

0:42:32.076 --> 0:42:36.676
<v Speaker 1>a second entry hole and an exit hole. Sergeant Wright

0:42:36.716 --> 0:42:38.516
<v Speaker 1>and one of his search and rescue guys went out

0:42:38.516 --> 0:42:41.756
<v Speaker 1>to the campground. Their idea was to position themselves where

0:42:41.756 --> 0:42:44.356
<v Speaker 1>the nine millimeter casings had been found and aim a

0:42:44.476 --> 0:42:48.756
<v Speaker 1>laser towards Bodette's campsite. The laser beam pointed at a

0:42:48.796 --> 0:42:52.116
<v Speaker 1>small hill in the distance. Sergeant Wright and his team

0:42:52.116 --> 0:42:54.676
<v Speaker 1>member dug into the hill and pulled out a spent

0:42:54.876 --> 0:42:59.596
<v Speaker 1>nine millimeter bullet. Sergeant Wright says he also helped Major

0:42:59.636 --> 0:43:02.716
<v Speaker 1>Crimes investigate the rash of burglaries that happened around the

0:43:02.716 --> 0:43:07.116
<v Speaker 1>park after Bodette was killed. Major Crimes certainly came in

0:43:07.436 --> 0:43:10.316
<v Speaker 1>at some point after the burglary started, and they do

0:43:10.396 --> 0:43:15.756
<v Speaker 1>specialize in burglary serial burglary investigations, and there seemed to

0:43:15.796 --> 0:43:19.436
<v Speaker 1>be more interest in that than the shootings, which is strange.

0:43:19.876 --> 0:43:27.756
<v Speaker 1>But we worked closely with Major Crimes. Major Crimes expected

0:43:27.796 --> 0:43:31.156
<v Speaker 1>that help and they deserved that help from the locals

0:43:31.156 --> 0:43:33.996
<v Speaker 1>that know the area. He says that after he and

0:43:34.036 --> 0:43:36.556
<v Speaker 1>one of his trackers found those bootprints leading up into

0:43:36.596 --> 0:43:39.076
<v Speaker 1>the hills, he was the one that proposed a search.

0:43:40.356 --> 0:43:43.436
<v Speaker 1>Major Crimes was not doing anything in that particular spot

0:43:43.516 --> 0:43:47.156
<v Speaker 1>or area, so it was off the radar. Everything else

0:43:47.196 --> 0:43:50.036
<v Speaker 1>they were doing was sort of random, you know, stumbling

0:43:50.036 --> 0:43:55.236
<v Speaker 1>around looking for clues. I was able to convince Detective

0:43:55.236 --> 0:43:59.196
<v Speaker 1>Berry that we needed to go back there, and he said,

0:43:59.236 --> 0:44:03.836
<v Speaker 1>okay too. We tie Berry the Major Crimes detective Gray

0:44:03.876 --> 0:44:07.236
<v Speaker 1>hair Beard Chick Kickers. He's the guy I saw at

0:44:07.276 --> 0:44:10.916
<v Speaker 1>one of Rout's early hearings for his probation and weapons violations.

0:44:11.436 --> 0:44:13.396
<v Speaker 1>So it was a combined Lost Hills team with two

0:44:13.436 --> 0:44:17.796
<v Speaker 1>Major Crimes guys added, and they went back there. We

0:44:17.836 --> 0:44:22.036
<v Speaker 1>stumbled upon Routa and we captured him. Lieutenant Royal was

0:44:22.076 --> 0:44:24.716
<v Speaker 1>on that team too, part of the route to capture,

0:44:25.436 --> 0:44:29.836
<v Speaker 1>and I would expect that even though it was late

0:44:29.836 --> 0:44:33.676
<v Speaker 1>in coming, and even though it came after a terrible tragedy,

0:44:34.556 --> 0:44:37.476
<v Speaker 1>this was a great victory for Lost Hills to have

0:44:38.396 --> 0:44:42.676
<v Speaker 1>arrested this suspect. It was a great victory. And I

0:44:42.756 --> 0:44:48.636
<v Speaker 1>mean we had captured an on burglar. But I happened

0:44:48.676 --> 0:44:51.516
<v Speaker 1>to start to believe that Router could be the suspect

0:44:51.556 --> 0:44:53.956
<v Speaker 1>and the murder at that point because of the particular

0:44:53.956 --> 0:44:59.076
<v Speaker 1>firearmy had. And it was such a great victory that

0:44:59.236 --> 0:45:04.876
<v Speaker 1>the station captain bought dinner for everybody. In the beginning,

0:45:04.876 --> 0:45:07.996
<v Speaker 1>he says, the department was treating him and Lieutenant Royal

0:45:08.236 --> 0:45:13.596
<v Speaker 1>like heroes. I was told at some point that some

0:45:13.676 --> 0:45:16.356
<v Speaker 1>of those involved in the arrest and the investigation, we're

0:45:16.356 --> 0:45:18.916
<v Speaker 1>going to get a medal. I was supposed to get

0:45:18.916 --> 0:45:20.956
<v Speaker 1>a medal, and Royal was supposed to get a medal

0:45:21.036 --> 0:45:25.556
<v Speaker 1>along with others involved. I don't know who. In January

0:45:25.596 --> 0:45:28.676
<v Speaker 1>of twenty nineteen, when Rota was charged with the murder,

0:45:28.716 --> 0:45:31.956
<v Speaker 1>the near misses and the burglaries, Sergeant Wright and Lieutenant

0:45:32.036 --> 0:45:36.356
<v Speaker 1>Royal's efforts to solve the case were vindicated. Their theory

0:45:36.396 --> 0:45:39.756
<v Speaker 1>that the crimes were connected, was seemingly now validated by

0:45:39.756 --> 0:45:43.956
<v Speaker 1>the Sheriff's Department and the DA. The suspect they had

0:45:44.036 --> 0:45:47.196
<v Speaker 1>tracked and helped capture in the Hills he turned out

0:45:47.196 --> 0:45:56.156
<v Speaker 1>to be the one. It was right around that time,

0:45:56.196 --> 0:46:00.756
<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Wright tells me that everything changed. No medal for him,

0:46:00.796 --> 0:46:05.756
<v Speaker 1>no medal for Lieutenant Royal, kind of the opposite. Suddenly

0:46:06.196 --> 0:46:10.436
<v Speaker 1>they were under investigation. I've never had an internal affairs

0:46:10.556 --> 0:46:14.316
<v Speaker 1>investigation before that, certainly that I know of. I've never

0:46:14.356 --> 0:46:17.476
<v Speaker 1>been in trouble, and all of a sudden in January,

0:46:18.356 --> 0:46:21.356
<v Speaker 1>we get told that we're the subjects of an internal

0:46:21.356 --> 0:46:28.076
<v Speaker 1>affairs investigation. Sergeant Wright was transferred out of Lost Hill station, expelled,

0:46:28.436 --> 0:46:33.476
<v Speaker 1>given freeway therapy along commute, a loss of seniority, public shame,

0:46:35.276 --> 0:46:39.516
<v Speaker 1>his new job patrolling CityWalk at Universal Studios out of

0:46:39.516 --> 0:46:45.996
<v Speaker 1>the West Hollywood station. Finally, he just retired, which is

0:46:46.036 --> 0:46:48.316
<v Speaker 1>why he was willing for a little while at least

0:46:48.476 --> 0:46:52.956
<v Speaker 1>to talk to me and Lieutenant Royal, sergeant right supervisor,

0:46:53.596 --> 0:46:56.556
<v Speaker 1>the same thing happened to him. He got transferred out

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<v Speaker 1>of Malibu, demoted, shamed. This is all very strange, is

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<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Wright telling me the truth? Because if he is.

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<v Speaker 1>If he basically solved this case, then why would he

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<v Speaker 1>be under investigation. I asked the DA about every Sheriff's

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<v Speaker 1>Department name I could find associated with the Router case

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<v Speaker 1>to see if any of them had a history of misconduct.

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<v Speaker 1>Sergeant twey Wright and Lieutenant James Royal don't. But two

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<v Speaker 1>of the detectives who took over the case from them

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<v Speaker 1>they're dirty. Daniel Morris, the homicide detective who oversaw the

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<v Speaker 1>chain of custody on the murder evidence and was a

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<v Speaker 1>witness at Bodet's autopsy, He's got a record of dishonesty.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ty Berry, the major crimes detective. He's been accused

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<v Speaker 1>of planting evidence, fabricating police reports, and lying. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>bad that the Sheriff's department fired him for dishonesty back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and three. He only has his job

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<v Speaker 1>because he sued to get it back. So the Hamis

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<v Speaker 1>detective and the major crimes lead both have histories of dishonesty.

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<v Speaker 1>And the two local guys who had been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>solve the case when their bosses didn't seem to believe

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<v Speaker 1>there was anything to solve, they are under investigation. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anyone here I can trust? I know what I

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<v Speaker 1>need to do. I need to go see it for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to go out there where it all happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Malibu Creek State Park,