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Speaker 1: Pushkin. There has been a major development in the investigation

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Speaker 1: On the first Monday in January twenty nineteen, while he's

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Speaker 1: Anthony Rawda is charged with this series of crimes in Malibu.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Rauda was charged yesterday with one count of murder.

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Speaker 1: to twenty sixteen. I expected this, you could see it

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Speaker 1: various crimes, all those near misses, the murder, the armed burglaries.

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Speaker 1: Now they're saying not only that they're connected, but that

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Speaker 1: So that's one count of murder Tristan Bodett, ten counts

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Speaker 1: The only thing I can do is write him a letter.

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Speaker 1: so he can write me back. Finally, he does. I

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Speaker 1: He refers to Boudette as an innocent person, and he

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Speaker 1: so is this quote. The Baudette family and friends can

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Speaker 1: justice is at. I'm Dana Goodyear and this is Lost Hills,

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Speaker 1: episode three. Lost. Ever since her husband Tristan Boudette died,

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Speaker 1: inside Lost Hill Station. You're kidding a cop. Oh yeah,

422
00:29:55,516 --> 00:29:58,036
Speaker 1: something's coming in with the cop for sure, for sure. Okay,

423
00:29:58,116 --> 00:30:04,996
Speaker 1: And I'm also getting Tuesday or Thursday being oh my god, CIA,

424
00:30:05,076 --> 00:30:07,836
Speaker 1: I have to admit she's losing me. Yeah, but it

425
00:30:07,876 --> 00:30:13,476
Speaker 1: doesn't CIA like globe bullshit. Tuesday Thursday, the CIA. Why

426
00:30:13,516 --> 00:30:16,076
Speaker 1: would they call it the CIA? Yeah? Who knows. I

427
00:30:16,076 --> 00:30:20,116
Speaker 1: could stumble upon something that maybe I mean right now,

428
00:30:20,196 --> 00:30:22,636
Speaker 1: the tea people. Who are the tee people, Well, there's

429
00:30:22,636 --> 00:30:26,916
Speaker 1: a couple tea people. There is Sergeant Twee right, but

430
00:30:27,116 --> 00:30:31,836
Speaker 1: now I snapped to attention Sergeant Twee Wright. He's the

431
00:30:31,836 --> 00:30:34,156
Speaker 1: guy who took me on the helicopter ride. Good cop,

432
00:30:34,196 --> 00:30:38,436
Speaker 1: bad cop. I think Twee is a bad cop. She

433
00:30:38,556 --> 00:30:41,436
Speaker 1: thinks Sergeant Writes a bad cop. Yeah, because one of

434
00:30:41,436 --> 00:30:43,916
Speaker 1: them looks like it's not looking too good for them either.

435
00:30:50,556 --> 00:30:55,636
Speaker 1: I'll read it with that. After the session's over. I

436
00:30:55,676 --> 00:30:58,316
Speaker 1: sit in the car with Ceci for a minute. It's

437
00:30:58,356 --> 00:31:00,916
Speaker 1: clear how little she thinks of the Lost Tail Sheriff station.

438
00:31:01,916 --> 00:31:06,156
Speaker 1: But now I find out something new and alarming. Alex

439
00:31:06,196 --> 00:31:08,556
Speaker 1: wouldn't even know this ship was going on if we

440
00:31:08,636 --> 00:31:14,076
Speaker 1: didn't tell hold on a second Alex, Alex via Nueva,

441
00:31:14,516 --> 00:31:19,956
Speaker 1: the new La County Sheriff arftural loss mopos that need

442
00:31:20,036 --> 00:31:24,636
Speaker 1: some direction, Well, hopefully they're gonna get it now from Alex.

443
00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:27,756
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's why we voted for him, because

444
00:31:27,916 --> 00:31:33,316
Speaker 1: we want him to succeed. We want him to turn

445
00:31:33,396 --> 00:31:36,876
Speaker 1: this damn department around. Yes, Lost Souls is a perfect

446
00:31:37,396 --> 00:31:44,476
Speaker 1: name for him. It sounds like Cecy's feeding the sheriff information,

447
00:31:45,436 --> 00:31:50,276
Speaker 1: possibly from her tea leafreetings. And just like him, she's

448
00:31:50,316 --> 00:31:54,556
Speaker 1: gone from being a total outsider to a total insider.

449
00:32:16,276 --> 00:32:19,636
Speaker 1: CEC and I don't share methods, not at all, But

450
00:32:19,756 --> 00:32:22,196
Speaker 1: there are ways of finding out if someone is a

451
00:32:22,236 --> 00:32:26,876
Speaker 1: bad cop. The Sheriff's department doesn't like to share personnel records.

452
00:32:27,036 --> 00:32:29,916
Speaker 1: You basically have to sue to get them. I put

453
00:32:29,916 --> 00:32:32,756
Speaker 1: in a public records request and they tell me essentially

454
00:32:33,156 --> 00:32:37,476
Speaker 1: get in line. But the District Attorney's office does keep

455
00:32:37,556 --> 00:32:41,316
Speaker 1: files on cops with histories of misconduct, cops they've been

456
00:32:41,316 --> 00:32:45,196
Speaker 1: asked to investigate, and they're supposed to keep these records

457
00:32:45,436 --> 00:32:49,116
Speaker 1: even if they never file charges. That's because if a

458
00:32:49,156 --> 00:32:51,636
Speaker 1: cop is called on to testify in court and has

459
00:32:51,676 --> 00:32:54,636
Speaker 1: a history of misconduct, the defense is entitled to know

460
00:32:54,756 --> 00:33:00,036
Speaker 1: that it's considered exculpatory. So I submit a series of

461
00:33:00,076 --> 00:33:03,356
Speaker 1: requests to the DA asking about every name I can

462
00:33:03,396 --> 00:33:07,156
Speaker 1: find involved with the Malibu case. I also try to

463
00:33:07,196 --> 00:33:10,516
Speaker 1: get to know Sergeant Twoey Wright, the Lost Hills detective

464
00:33:10,556 --> 00:33:13,556
Speaker 1: who seems to be the center of the ROUTA investigation.

465
00:33:16,116 --> 00:33:20,196
Speaker 1: All right, are you ready? Can you say who you are?

466
00:33:21,116 --> 00:33:25,996
Speaker 1: I remember you, I'm hard to hear. Right. After hounding

467
00:33:26,036 --> 00:33:27,796
Speaker 1: him for months, I got him to give me that

468
00:33:27,836 --> 00:33:32,276
Speaker 1: helicopter tour of Malibu's killing zone, and today he's sitting

469
00:33:32,276 --> 00:33:35,436
Speaker 1: down with me to do an interview. Sergeant Wright is,

470
00:33:35,556 --> 00:33:38,196
Speaker 1: by his own description, not totally at home in the

471
00:33:38,236 --> 00:33:41,556
Speaker 1: culture of the Sheriff's department. He's an ex marine and

472
00:33:41,676 --> 00:33:44,396
Speaker 1: a vegan and a bow hunter who grew up into

473
00:33:44,396 --> 00:33:48,316
Speaker 1: Panga Canyon a hippie trippy enclave in Lost Hill's jurisdiction.

474
00:33:49,316 --> 00:33:52,996
Speaker 1: He's also gotten dozens of awards and commendations, especially for

475
00:33:53,076 --> 00:33:57,036
Speaker 1: his work leading the Malibu Search and Rescue team. He's conflicted.

476
00:33:57,276 --> 00:34:00,196
Speaker 1: He loves the Sheriff's department devoted his life to it,

477
00:34:01,156 --> 00:34:03,756
Speaker 1: but he says he wants to tell me the real story,

478
00:34:04,596 --> 00:34:07,556
Speaker 1: the truth about what went on behind the scenes at

479
00:34:07,596 --> 00:34:12,476
Speaker 1: Lost Hills Station before and after Tristan Boudatt was killed.

480
00:34:13,636 --> 00:34:18,716
Speaker 1: I've got so many questions. There were three shootings in

481
00:34:19,436 --> 00:34:26,196
Speaker 1: Malibu Creek State Park in late twenty sixteen through January

482
00:34:26,236 --> 00:34:31,716
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. I'm imagining because it is a small community

483
00:34:31,996 --> 00:34:36,196
Speaker 1: and Malibu Last Hills Sheriff Station is just a few

484
00:34:36,236 --> 00:34:39,236
Speaker 1: miles from the park, that you would have heard about

485
00:34:39,356 --> 00:34:44,196
Speaker 1: those shootings in the park, right. Well. I did eventually

486
00:34:44,196 --> 00:34:48,636
Speaker 1: hear about those shootings. I had only heard about them

487
00:34:49,356 --> 00:34:54,956
Speaker 1: when the state park supervisors called Lieutenant Royal and told

488
00:34:54,996 --> 00:34:59,076
Speaker 1: them that they had a series of crimes that they

489
00:34:59,116 --> 00:35:03,756
Speaker 1: wanted him to weigh in on near Missus one through three.

490
00:35:03,836 --> 00:35:07,476
Speaker 1: Sergeant Wright tells me all happened on state park property,

491
00:35:07,756 --> 00:35:11,716
Speaker 1: so it was the rangers respon ability to investigate. California

492
00:35:11,756 --> 00:35:15,716
Speaker 1: State Parks is a separate law enforcement agency. They investigate

493
00:35:15,796 --> 00:35:19,356
Speaker 1: the majority of their own crimes, and they make arrests

494
00:35:19,796 --> 00:35:22,996
Speaker 1: their full peace officers in the state of California. The

495
00:35:23,036 --> 00:35:27,036
Speaker 1: shootings were in State Parks jurisdiction, but they didn't get solved,

496
00:35:27,556 --> 00:35:30,996
Speaker 1: and the problem didn't seem to be going away. When

497
00:35:30,996 --> 00:35:33,916
Speaker 1: you have three shootings in a particular period of time,

498
00:35:34,036 --> 00:35:37,396
Speaker 1: in the same area and with the same type of

499
00:35:37,436 --> 00:35:42,076
Speaker 1: weapon at the same time of day, it makes you think,

500
00:35:42,916 --> 00:35:47,036
Speaker 1: I mean, these are unknown an unknown assailant that fired

501
00:35:47,076 --> 00:35:50,276
Speaker 1: from the dark and disappeared into the night, always one shot.

502
00:35:50,916 --> 00:35:54,516
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Royal was Sergeant Right supervisor, and they were both concerned.

503
00:35:55,036 --> 00:35:57,116
Speaker 1: But when they took the information to their bosses at

504
00:35:57,116 --> 00:36:00,436
Speaker 1: the station, Sergeant Right says, the bosses blew them off.

505
00:36:00,996 --> 00:36:03,636
Speaker 1: I was told by the captain that it was a

506
00:36:03,676 --> 00:36:08,996
Speaker 1: State Parks problem, and obviously Lieutenant Royal told talked to him.

507
00:36:09,236 --> 00:36:11,716
Speaker 1: I talked to him about it, and there was concern

508
00:36:11,796 --> 00:36:15,236
Speaker 1: on our part because it's right down the street. It

509
00:36:15,316 --> 00:36:18,756
Speaker 1: might technically be in the State Parks jurisdiction, but who's

510
00:36:18,836 --> 00:36:22,276
Speaker 1: to say it couldn't spill out into ours. It just

511
00:36:22,316 --> 00:36:27,036
Speaker 1: didn't seem like there was much interesting at the supervisory

512
00:36:27,076 --> 00:36:32,636
Speaker 1: levels above us. Five months after Sergeant Right and Lieutenant

513
00:36:32,676 --> 00:36:34,956
Speaker 1: Royal learned about the three near misses in the park,

514
00:36:35,476 --> 00:36:39,436
Speaker 1: there was another shooting, this time in Lost Hills jurisdiction,

515
00:36:40,076 --> 00:36:43,796
Speaker 1: the white Porsche on the Canyon Road at four thirty am.

516
00:36:43,956 --> 00:36:45,756
Speaker 1: That was the one where the driver had to drive

517
00:36:45,836 --> 00:36:48,836
Speaker 1: himself to the station to make a report, even after

518
00:36:48,916 --> 00:36:55,356
Speaker 1: calling nine one near miss number four. Six weeks after

519
00:36:55,396 --> 00:36:59,316
Speaker 1: that near miss number five, a teenager driving her mother's

520
00:36:59,316 --> 00:37:02,196
Speaker 1: white BMW on her way to a surf competition with

521
00:37:02,236 --> 00:37:07,156
Speaker 1: a friend, same road, same time, something hit the car,

522
00:37:07,276 --> 00:37:10,356
Speaker 1: blowing out a back window. Fearing for their lives, the

523
00:37:10,396 --> 00:37:13,596
Speaker 1: teenagers sped away and when they got to Sir Frider Beach,

524
00:37:13,636 --> 00:37:15,556
Speaker 1: they saw that the back of the car was riddled

525
00:37:15,556 --> 00:37:22,116
Speaker 1: with holes, pellets from bird shot lodged in the rear lights.

526
00:37:23,276 --> 00:37:27,356
Speaker 1: We went out and investigated that, and I personally went

527
00:37:27,356 --> 00:37:30,836
Speaker 1: out and looked at the scene, and we searched for evidence,

528
00:37:31,036 --> 00:37:37,796
Speaker 1: and I found a shotgun wadding that I believe came

529
00:37:37,836 --> 00:37:41,036
Speaker 1: from the shot, and I believe it gave me an

530
00:37:41,036 --> 00:37:45,036
Speaker 1: indication or where the shot was fired from. By then,

531
00:37:45,396 --> 00:37:49,396
Speaker 1: July twenty seventeen, eleven months before Tristan Boudatt was killed,

532
00:37:49,756 --> 00:37:52,876
Speaker 1: there had been five near misses, three in the park

533
00:37:53,036 --> 00:37:56,636
Speaker 1: and two on the road. There was a puzzling if

534
00:37:56,636 --> 00:38:04,356
Speaker 1: distinct pattern, location, time, ammunition, a single shot. Well certainly

535
00:38:04,876 --> 00:38:10,276
Speaker 1: the crimes the shootings occurred in the we morning hours,

536
00:38:10,356 --> 00:38:14,636
Speaker 1: just before dawn, so that was one one thing that

537
00:38:14,756 --> 00:38:19,276
Speaker 1: was consistent in his m A. The other was, of course,

538
00:38:19,316 --> 00:38:21,996
Speaker 1: as you know in the beginning, a shotgun was used,

539
00:38:21,996 --> 00:38:27,436
Speaker 1: so same weapon and one shot fired. That was pretty consistent.

540
00:38:27,916 --> 00:38:31,956
Speaker 1: And the location was a huge issue inside the state

541
00:38:31,956 --> 00:38:35,836
Speaker 1: park and one particular campground. The state park is huge,

542
00:38:36,556 --> 00:38:40,596
Speaker 1: but one particular campground not spread all over one spot,

543
00:38:41,316 --> 00:38:46,036
Speaker 1: within a few camp spaces of another, and then finally

544
00:38:46,116 --> 00:38:50,116
Speaker 1: on the highway adjacent to the campground in the same spot.

545
00:38:51,916 --> 00:38:58,276
Speaker 1: So those were consistent patterns that I think indicated a

546
00:38:58,356 --> 00:39:02,876
Speaker 1: serial shooter. I think there's only common sense to be

547
00:39:02,916 --> 00:39:05,916
Speaker 1: able to see that. Sergeant Wright says he and Lieutenant

548
00:39:05,996 --> 00:39:09,916
Speaker 1: Royal were frustrated and fearful. When Wright told me in

549
00:39:09,956 --> 00:39:12,956
Speaker 1: the helicopter that it was quote our greatest fear that

550
00:39:12,996 --> 00:39:15,676
Speaker 1: the shooter would kill someone, he meant it was his

551
00:39:15,756 --> 00:39:19,636
Speaker 1: and Lieutenant Royal's greatest fear. But they couldn't get traction

552
00:39:19,716 --> 00:39:24,836
Speaker 1: with their theory to be told by other investigators or

553
00:39:24,876 --> 00:39:27,716
Speaker 1: the department. There was no evidence or there was not

554
00:39:27,916 --> 00:39:31,196
Speaker 1: enough information to link these crimes. I just thought it

555
00:39:31,276 --> 00:39:34,716
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. It wasn't my opinion. But while the investigation

556
00:39:34,836 --> 00:39:38,076
Speaker 1: was sputtering along, word of a shooter got out among

557
00:39:38,076 --> 00:39:42,556
Speaker 1: the deputies. We all knew where the shooting grounds, and

558
00:39:42,996 --> 00:39:47,396
Speaker 1: I had heard rumors at patrol cars. Some patrol cars

559
00:39:47,396 --> 00:39:50,876
Speaker 1: would go by at high speed with their guns out

560
00:39:50,916 --> 00:39:55,196
Speaker 1: the window pointed in that direction, and I believe people

561
00:39:55,236 --> 00:39:59,716
Speaker 1: that knew warned their family members not to drive by there.

562
00:40:01,676 --> 00:40:04,636
Speaker 1: This might be the most outrageous thing. Sergeant Wright has

563
00:40:04,636 --> 00:40:08,836
Speaker 1: told me. The threat was real. The deputies knew there

564
00:40:08,876 --> 00:40:10,756
Speaker 1: was a shooter in the area and that he might

565
00:40:10,836 --> 00:40:15,356
Speaker 1: kill someone. They were scared, but the department still didn't

566
00:40:15,396 --> 00:40:20,796
Speaker 1: warn the public, and then the shooting stopped for the

567
00:40:20,836 --> 00:40:24,716
Speaker 1: next eleven months. There was a lull, which, if anything,

568
00:40:24,836 --> 00:40:28,716
Speaker 1: Sergeant Wright says, made him more nervous. We were wondering

569
00:40:28,796 --> 00:40:31,676
Speaker 1: during the gap what the heck was going on. And

570
00:40:32,796 --> 00:40:36,316
Speaker 1: I had told Lieutenant Royal that I believe we had

571
00:40:36,356 --> 00:40:39,076
Speaker 1: a serial shooter. I actually told him I thought we

572
00:40:39,116 --> 00:40:41,676
Speaker 1: had a serial killer that had not killed yet in

573
00:40:41,716 --> 00:40:46,636
Speaker 1: our area, that we knew of a serial killer in Malibu.

574
00:40:48,636 --> 00:40:51,116
Speaker 1: The lull in the shootings was shattered in June twenty

575
00:40:51,396 --> 00:40:54,316
Speaker 1: eighteen when the white Tesla was hit on the Canyon

576
00:40:54,396 --> 00:40:59,636
Speaker 1: Road near Miss Number six. Four days later, Tristan Boudett

577
00:40:59,716 --> 00:41:07,716
Speaker 1: was killed in his tent after the murder. The detectives

578
00:41:07,756 --> 00:41:11,396
Speaker 1: from Homicide and Major Crimes showed up after the murder.

579
00:41:12,076 --> 00:41:18,596
Speaker 1: Obviously the department was taking note and there was more interest.

580
00:41:19,796 --> 00:41:21,996
Speaker 1: Sergeant Wright says that his search and rescue team was

581
00:41:22,036 --> 00:41:25,636
Speaker 1: told to keep assisting with the investigation. They knew the area,

582
00:41:25,996 --> 00:41:28,836
Speaker 1: they could be helpful, and as far as he's concerned,

583
00:41:29,236 --> 00:41:31,756
Speaker 1: they were. We were there the day of the murder,

584
00:41:32,396 --> 00:41:38,196
Speaker 1: and later Homicide went back with one of their volunteer

585
00:41:38,236 --> 00:41:43,956
Speaker 1: teams to try and find shellcasings and they were unable

586
00:41:43,996 --> 00:41:46,156
Speaker 1: to do so. When I heard that they found nothing,

587
00:41:46,836 --> 00:41:50,796
Speaker 1: I asked them if they wanted me to take a

588
00:41:50,876 --> 00:41:53,716
Speaker 1: crack at searching with my team, and they stood by

589
00:41:53,756 --> 00:41:57,156
Speaker 1: all means, so we went back a week after Boudette

590
00:41:57,196 --> 00:41:59,676
Speaker 1: was killed. He says his search and rescue team used

591
00:41:59,716 --> 00:42:03,236
Speaker 1: metal detectors and found five nine millimeter shell casings in

592
00:42:03,236 --> 00:42:06,876
Speaker 1: the campground. It looked like multiple rounds had been fired,

593
00:42:06,956 --> 00:42:09,436
Speaker 1: though it was hard to say for sure. Two of

594
00:42:09,436 --> 00:42:13,516
Speaker 1: the casings were so rusted their headstamps were illegible. And

595
00:42:13,836 --> 00:42:17,356
Speaker 1: that was a great farm. Homicide was ecstatic. He came

596
00:42:17,396 --> 00:42:21,676
Speaker 1: out to the scene. They were very happy. Later, Sergeant

597
00:42:21,676 --> 00:42:25,356
Speaker 1: Wright decided to go looking for the actual bullets. Only one,

598
00:42:25,636 --> 00:42:28,676
Speaker 1: the one that killed Tristan Boudette, had ever been found,

599
00:42:28,716 --> 00:42:32,076
Speaker 1: lodged in his right shoulder blade, but the tent showed

600
00:42:32,076 --> 00:42:36,676
Speaker 1: a second entry hole and an exit hole. Sergeant Wright

601
00:42:36,716 --> 00:42:38,516
Speaker 1: and one of his search and rescue guys went out

602
00:42:38,516 --> 00:42:41,756
Speaker 1: to the campground. Their idea was to position themselves where

603
00:42:41,756 --> 00:42:44,356
Speaker 1: the nine millimeter casings had been found and aim a

604
00:42:44,476 --> 00:42:48,756
Speaker 1: laser towards Bodette's campsite. The laser beam pointed at a

605
00:42:48,796 --> 00:42:52,116
Speaker 1: small hill in the distance. Sergeant Wright and his team

606
00:42:52,116 --> 00:42:54,676
Speaker 1: member dug into the hill and pulled out a spent

607
00:42:54,876 --> 00:42:59,596
Speaker 1: nine millimeter bullet. Sergeant Wright says he also helped Major

608
00:42:59,636 --> 00:43:02,716
Speaker 1: Crimes investigate the rash of burglaries that happened around the

609
00:43:02,716 --> 00:43:07,116
Speaker 1: park after Bodette was killed. Major Crimes certainly came in

610
00:43:07,436 --> 00:43:10,316
Speaker 1: at some point after the burglary started, and they do

611
00:43:10,396 --> 00:43:15,756
Speaker 1: specialize in burglary serial burglary investigations, and there seemed to

612
00:43:15,796 --> 00:43:19,436
Speaker 1: be more interest in that than the shootings, which is strange.

613
00:43:19,876 --> 00:43:27,756
Speaker 1: But we worked closely with Major Crimes. Major Crimes expected

614
00:43:27,796 --> 00:43:31,156
Speaker 1: that help and they deserved that help from the locals

615
00:43:31,156 --> 00:43:33,996
Speaker 1: that know the area. He says that after he and

616
00:43:34,036 --> 00:43:36,556
Speaker 1: one of his trackers found those bootprints leading up into

617
00:43:36,596 --> 00:43:39,076
Speaker 1: the hills, he was the one that proposed a search.

618
00:43:40,356 --> 00:43:43,436
Speaker 1: Major Crimes was not doing anything in that particular spot

619
00:43:43,516 --> 00:43:47,156
Speaker 1: or area, so it was off the radar. Everything else

620
00:43:47,196 --> 00:43:50,036
Speaker 1: they were doing was sort of random, you know, stumbling

621
00:43:50,036 --> 00:43:55,236
Speaker 1: around looking for clues. I was able to convince Detective

622
00:43:55,236 --> 00:43:59,196
Speaker 1: Berry that we needed to go back there, and he said,

623
00:43:59,236 --> 00:44:03,836
Speaker 1: okay too. We tie Berry the Major Crimes detective Gray

624
00:44:03,876 --> 00:44:07,236
Speaker 1: hair Beard Chick Kickers. He's the guy I saw at

625
00:44:07,276 --> 00:44:10,916
Speaker 1: one of Rout's early hearings for his probation and weapons violations.

626
00:44:11,436 --> 00:44:13,396
Speaker 1: So it was a combined Lost Hills team with two

627
00:44:13,436 --> 00:44:17,796
Speaker 1: Major Crimes guys added, and they went back there. We

628
00:44:17,836 --> 00:44:22,036
Speaker 1: stumbled upon Routa and we captured him. Lieutenant Royal was

629
00:44:22,076 --> 00:44:24,716
Speaker 1: on that team too, part of the route to capture,

630
00:44:25,436 --> 00:44:29,836
Speaker 1: and I would expect that even though it was late

631
00:44:29,836 --> 00:44:33,676
Speaker 1: in coming, and even though it came after a terrible tragedy,

632
00:44:34,556 --> 00:44:37,476
Speaker 1: this was a great victory for Lost Hills to have

633
00:44:38,396 --> 00:44:42,676
Speaker 1: arrested this suspect. It was a great victory. And I

634
00:44:42,756 --> 00:44:48,636
Speaker 1: mean we had captured an on burglar. But I happened

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00:44:48,676 --> 00:44:51,516
Speaker 1: to start to believe that Router could be the suspect

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00:44:51,556 --> 00:44:53,956
Speaker 1: and the murder at that point because of the particular

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Speaker 1: firearmy had. And it was such a great victory that

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00:44:59,236 --> 00:45:04,876
Speaker 1: the station captain bought dinner for everybody. In the beginning,

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00:45:04,876 --> 00:45:07,996
Speaker 1: he says, the department was treating him and Lieutenant Royal

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00:45:08,236 --> 00:45:13,596
Speaker 1: like heroes. I was told at some point that some

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00:45:13,676 --> 00:45:16,356
Speaker 1: of those involved in the arrest and the investigation, we're

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00:45:16,356 --> 00:45:18,916
Speaker 1: going to get a medal. I was supposed to get

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00:45:18,916 --> 00:45:20,956
Speaker 1: a medal, and Royal was supposed to get a medal

644
00:45:21,036 --> 00:45:25,556
Speaker 1: along with others involved. I don't know who. In January

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00:45:25,596 --> 00:45:28,676
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, when Rota was charged with the murder,

646
00:45:28,716 --> 00:45:31,956
Speaker 1: the near misses and the burglaries, Sergeant Wright and Lieutenant

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00:45:32,036 --> 00:45:36,356
Speaker 1: Royal's efforts to solve the case were vindicated. Their theory

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00:45:36,396 --> 00:45:39,756
Speaker 1: that the crimes were connected, was seemingly now validated by

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00:45:39,756 --> 00:45:43,956
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's Department and the DA. The suspect they had

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00:45:44,036 --> 00:45:47,196
Speaker 1: tracked and helped capture in the Hills he turned out

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00:45:47,196 --> 00:45:56,156
Speaker 1: to be the one. It was right around that time,

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00:45:56,196 --> 00:46:00,756
Speaker 1: Sergeant Wright tells me that everything changed. No medal for him,

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00:46:00,796 --> 00:46:05,756
Speaker 1: no medal for Lieutenant Royal, kind of the opposite. Suddenly

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00:46:06,196 --> 00:46:10,436
Speaker 1: they were under investigation. I've never had an internal affairs

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00:46:10,556 --> 00:46:14,316
Speaker 1: investigation before that, certainly that I know of. I've never

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00:46:14,356 --> 00:46:17,476
Speaker 1: been in trouble, and all of a sudden in January,

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00:46:18,356 --> 00:46:21,356
Speaker 1: we get told that we're the subjects of an internal

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00:46:21,356 --> 00:46:28,076
Speaker 1: affairs investigation. Sergeant Wright was transferred out of Lost Hill station, expelled,

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00:46:28,436 --> 00:46:33,476
Speaker 1: given freeway therapy along commute, a loss of seniority, public shame,

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Speaker 1: his new job patrolling CityWalk at Universal Studios out of

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00:46:39,516 --> 00:46:45,996
Speaker 1: the West Hollywood station. Finally, he just retired, which is

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00:46:46,036 --> 00:46:48,316
Speaker 1: why he was willing for a little while at least

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Speaker 1: to talk to me and Lieutenant Royal, sergeant right supervisor,

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00:46:53,596 --> 00:46:56,556
Speaker 1: the same thing happened to him. He got transferred out

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00:46:56,556 --> 00:47:03,716
Speaker 1: of Malibu, demoted, shamed. This is all very strange, is

666
00:47:03,716 --> 00:47:06,876
Speaker 1: Sergeant Wright telling me the truth? Because if he is.

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00:47:07,316 --> 00:47:10,516
Speaker 1: If he basically solved this case, then why would he

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00:47:10,756 --> 00:47:23,836
Speaker 1: be under investigation. I asked the DA about every Sheriff's

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00:47:23,836 --> 00:47:26,636
Speaker 1: Department name I could find associated with the Router case

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00:47:27,116 --> 00:47:29,476
Speaker 1: to see if any of them had a history of misconduct.

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00:47:30,356 --> 00:47:34,996
Speaker 1: Sergeant twey Wright and Lieutenant James Royal don't. But two

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Speaker 1: of the detectives who took over the case from them

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00:47:38,116 --> 00:47:43,876
Speaker 1: they're dirty. Daniel Morris, the homicide detective who oversaw the

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00:47:43,956 --> 00:47:46,316
Speaker 1: chain of custody on the murder evidence and was a

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00:47:46,356 --> 00:47:50,316
Speaker 1: witness at Bodet's autopsy, He's got a record of dishonesty.

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00:47:51,076 --> 00:47:55,276
Speaker 1: And Ty Berry, the major crimes detective. He's been accused

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00:47:55,276 --> 00:47:59,756
Speaker 1: of planting evidence, fabricating police reports, and lying. It's so

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00:47:59,836 --> 00:48:03,076
Speaker 1: bad that the Sheriff's department fired him for dishonesty back

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00:48:03,116 --> 00:48:05,796
Speaker 1: in two thousand and three. He only has his job

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00:48:05,836 --> 00:48:09,036
Speaker 1: because he sued to get it back. So the Hamis

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00:48:09,316 --> 00:48:12,836
Speaker 1: detective and the major crimes lead both have histories of dishonesty.

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Speaker 1: And the two local guys who had been trying to

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Speaker 1: solve the case when their bosses didn't seem to believe

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Speaker 1: there was anything to solve, they are under investigation. Is

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Speaker 1: there anyone here I can trust? I know what I

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00:48:27,116 --> 00:48:30,436
Speaker 1: need to do. I need to go see it for myself.

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Speaker 1: I need to go out there where it all happened.

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Speaker 1: Malibu Creek State Park,