1 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: What with legendary Rico this week, Tansy Larkin legendary and Jerry. 2 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: We got somebody that changed the whole whole landscape of 3 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: not just music here in Atlanta, but music around the 4 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: country and around the world. 5 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 3: And you you've. 6 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Seen, you've seen my excitement about having my homeboy, my nigga, 7 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: my pott here because you see, I brought my kids 8 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: just for this. 9 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: Yes, I see. 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 4: I was like, y'all gonna get history today. 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: Because because I've said and I watched this guy. 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: And actually he's not he's not. We're probably around the 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: same age. 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 2: But I watched him before I even pay I mean 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: before I even really got really entrenched in the music, 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: and I watched what he did and watched how he 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: uh and his and his crew and his his uh uh. 18 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 4: I'm trying to is his Organized Noise crew. 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, his organized Norse crew. 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: What they did for the and I'll say it again 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: for changing the whole landscape of music around the world. 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: And we have mister Rico way one third. 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: Of organized Organized Noise. 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: He's so laid back. 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 5: I just understand that it's you know, it's always it's 26 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 5: a blessing man, because especially when you see people that 27 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 5: that was a part of the movement at the beginning stages, 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 5: when when it was only one radio station, when we 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 5: only had when they only played rap music from six 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 5: to not even from six, not even six Saturday night, 31 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 5: people called the fresh fresh fist a fresh party. 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: And so if that was here in Atlanta, can you 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: only ask what was going on. 34 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 6: Around and other and other little smaller market. Well, actually 35 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 6: that's what I mean. 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 5: Like like Atlanta was a it's a big it's a city, 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 5: but it was it's considered a small town. It wasn't 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: a like now it's something that that breaks down people follow. 39 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 5: But back then the pacemakers were New York, the Bay, 40 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 5: the Bay l. 41 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 6: A, possibly Chicago, Chicago, the bigger market. 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 5: They're the ones that like they say, if this place, 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 5: if this if this area plays your record, or like 44 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 5: it just means that, okay, Chicago player, guess what say 45 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 5: it just means like a couple of other smaller market. 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 6: Atlanta considered a smaller market. 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: But now. 48 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: Because Atlanta, I'm saying, didn't mean because Atlanta was playing, 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 5: didn't mean that that the big cities. It was almost 50 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 5: when out Cat came out. What helped us early on 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 5: in the Beguinea stages. Was that k mail in San Francisco, 52 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 5: San Francisco. I know people I would like to be 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 5: like Atlanta and San Francisco gay thing. But but but 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 5: we do have some love for. 55 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 6: The diversity because that's the Bay Area. That's all. 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: So speaking of so, speaking of so, speaking of getting 57 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: jump started. You know, for people that don't know and 58 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: organized noise. When everybody think organized noise, they think of outcasts, goodie. 59 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 6: Mob, TLC, waterfall. 60 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: Water for me, society or soul. 61 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 6: So but. 62 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: Organized noise. 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: And you just mentioned I'm the player's boss somewhere out casts. 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: When you all got. 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: Together and the whole crew, I mean, for everybody that 66 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: that knows and don't. 67 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: Know, I mean, it was a lot, a lot, a lot. 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: Of talent in that whole y'all clicking, y'all crew coming 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: coming up. Did you ever think that it would it 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 2: would spawn the the groups and solo artists that came 71 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: out of it, did you? I mean, I know, as 72 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: a you know, as confident as you are, and I 73 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: know that. 74 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 5: But well, to be done, to be very honest, man, 75 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 5: like that was the plan. It was almost like I 76 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 5: was in the singing group. You know what I'm saying. 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 5: I was in the sing group when Jack the rapper 78 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 5: was going on. I knew, I knew I couldn't really sing. 79 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 5: I knew I couldn't really sing, but we would fly. 80 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 5: We had we had, we had the perms. 81 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 6: I had to figure a ways the cone through the 82 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 6: cone through the way. 83 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 5: We were turning Atlanta album and said we and they 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 5: was great fun shirts, bill booms. 85 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 6: It was freedom here. 86 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 5: At that point we had already seen that Michael Jackson 87 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 5: was doing our dances. TLC had came out like this 88 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 5: before even TLC had came out. 89 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 6: That's what I mean. 90 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 5: I was in the singing group then, so realized realized 91 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 5: because I had we we auditioned for Pebbles. It was 92 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 5: like then JOSEYSI came out and it was like, you 93 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 5: know what, man, they kind of beat us to the 94 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 5: two guys can sing, two guys don't sing. 95 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 6: Niggas in the group say it's just the whole fly. 96 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 6: I was like, and they was. 97 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: Kind of like turned double on some hoods that there 98 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 5: was hood dudes. That was so we felt like that. 99 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 5: We just kind of felt like we were in the business, 100 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 5: but maybe we wasn't. Boys and Men that's what it was. 101 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 5: Jodisie got the two guys who could blow. Boys and 102 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 5: men was awful. Guys can blow were really not none 103 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 5: of those. We've been having fun, but we're not that 104 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 5: but sleep so you retired your personal Yeah, so it's 105 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 5: almost like now we already knew that, but Sleepy always 106 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 5: wanted to sleep. By this point, I've learned how to 107 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 5: make music though. I met Ray, so we understood we're 108 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 5: building production. We're making production, but we're doing music for 109 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 5: like for Ray might be doing stuff for like Kujo, 110 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 5: but this was before he was in the Goodie Mad. 111 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 5: He might be doing something for Mellow, who was down 112 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: with KP. He was just a little central dude that 113 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 5: everybody would come to to make beats. And I was 114 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 5: like his manager. 115 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: Okay, now when you say Ray and you say Sleepy, now. 116 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 5: Those are the partnersn't organized, No, it's those two guys 117 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 5: in those picture. 118 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: Okay, So now Sleepy and people made no. 119 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 5: Sleepy as an artist, Yes, sleep Sleepiers got the songs 120 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 5: I can't wait and sing on all the big bus stuff. 121 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: Outcast was Yeah, he's. 122 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 6: A third member of our man. 123 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 5: He really is the one who's something from all the 124 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 5: first albums, he saw all the hooks, Southern Playerlistic, Crumbling Herd, 125 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 5: and all the later. 126 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 7: That's my that's my song, I don't. 127 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 5: And then Folky Ride, So he was like divorce like. 128 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: So that's why I was sound like how doctors rade him? 129 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 5: And the cornny So that was important. Then later on 130 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 5: you heard him on sofa so clean and the way 131 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 5: you moved, and he had his own stuff when he 132 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 5: came up, I can't wait and margarite or whatever. 133 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 4: So see, I never knew that. 134 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 7: I mean I knew he sung on some I didn't 135 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 7: know certain songs I didn't know he t. And then 136 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 7: I didn't know he was a part of the founder, 137 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 7: one of the founders of Organized Noise, and who's Ray. 138 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 6: Raised the Yoda raised, the one that raised the one 139 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 6: you hold. 140 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: On, hold on, Hold hold on. 141 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: So you didn't know, not Organized Noise. 142 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm be honest. 143 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 7: I'm telling you, I'm more like a fan. I knew 144 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 7: it was, and I knew sleep. 145 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: I knew. 146 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 4: As an artist. 147 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: Now this is what in the street, this is what 148 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: it was known. This is what people were not known. 149 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: But this is what people were saying that Ray and 150 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: Pat were the creatives, and Rico was the mouth and 151 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: was the brain, but you actually was on the You 152 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: was on the motherfucking drum machines too. 153 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 7: You. 154 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was like it was. It was looked 155 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 5: at its like Reco the front man. You know what 156 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 5: I'm saying, He the front man. He the one that's 157 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 5: popping and talking really sleepy and radioing all the music. 158 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what that's what. 159 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, whatever ears, That's what it really was. More like 160 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 5: that was that was the roles we had to play, 161 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 5: like like my job sleepy. Our sound is based on 162 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 5: ray love for hip hop and sleepies, love. 163 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 6: For live music and funk. 164 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: I was like, I'm a couple of years younger than them, 165 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 5: but I was the one who already had a job 166 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 5: so I was paying for stuff. But also they so 167 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 5: just I felt good because they also trusted my my vision, 168 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 5: like they I was hip and thought I was young, 169 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 5: and here like like like you know, it's hot reached. 170 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 5: So it's like what you think, So the whole process 171 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 5: became us because how you think. 172 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 6: It should go? Read what you think? What you think 173 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 6: is fly. 174 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: So you ended up managing anyway by Yeah, I had. 175 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 5: To like now, not only because because I believe that 176 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 5: they were the truth. So it's really more about if 177 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 5: they were doing something I thought was dope, I wouldn't 178 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 5: let them sit around doing that ship all day. I'm like, 179 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: that's it, that's it. Stop, stop, that's it. Play that again, 180 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 5: just like that. That's it, that's it right there, let's 181 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 5: do that. Then I go get your cash, come this 182 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 5: in this or yo. See though yo. So it was 183 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 5: almost like a hype man at at the end of 184 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: the day. But if you respected, you're a leader, right, 185 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 5: So if you really just the person who's the most 186 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 5: excited about and convincing about what I'm saying, and then 187 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 5: when those things were come into fruition, when I'm telling you, 188 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 5: like that shit dope, then somebody else here and be 189 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: like that shit dope. And you're used to most of 190 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 5: the time, what you're used to hearing is nobody telling 191 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 5: you nothing. Yeah, like people being like I like that, 192 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 5: like people just like that, not really getting all the 193 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 5: way on the deck, not really getting. 194 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: Really really, how does it make not to cut you off? 195 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 3: Sorry? But how does it make you feel to sit. 196 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: Back and say the organized noise we spawn arguably the 197 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: greatest hip hop duo in the world in history period 198 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: to sit back and say that Michael Jackson, we spawned 199 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say, arguably the greatest hip hop group 200 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: of all time, Big Boy and Andre three thousands came from 201 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: the beginnings of organized. 202 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 5: I just know that I could speak on the fact 203 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 5: that like if you go about something with the proper respect, 204 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 5: I mean, like run DEMC, try and call quest and 205 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 5: acknowledge it, like we knew that this is what this 206 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 5: is what we were looking at, like like we trying 207 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: did the P m D. But yeah, yeah, I like 208 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 5: I loved it. I personally loved the E P and 209 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 5: B as a as a as a fan. But at 210 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 5: the time when I met Cast things that I looked 211 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 5: at and said, like, we're gonna have a two man group, 212 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 5: who are my favorites? 213 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 6: Run DMC, so. 214 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: You're expecting the past that and studied it. 215 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 6: I was like, okay, you that is the key word 216 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 6: you said, past respected it. 217 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 5: To why I knew like y'all didn't even walk around 218 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 5: no data song, we for go damn we make people 219 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 5: think y'all run m C. But but quietly, when I 220 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 5: when I met Big and Dre, they did from run 221 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 5: DM she run DMC. Type ship. When I met them. 222 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 5: They came up to my job and caught them. They 223 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 5: go to try City High school. At the time, my 224 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 5: attsistant go to the same high school. I'm out of 225 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: high school. So but they heard about us because ray 226 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 5: they heard about us or whatever. So this little white 227 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 5: girl find give Bunca her credit. Bianca white girl worked 228 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 5: at then worked at the beauty spot store. 229 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: Wow, a white girl maybe the beauty. 230 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: She's so many. 231 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 5: You have worked at and worked at the business by 232 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 5: stuff that I was I was managing, I was running. 233 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 6: She can't come to come to work. 234 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 5: She be like, Rico, this guy that goes to school 235 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 5: with me, twe to keep asking me you want to 236 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 5: wrap for y'all to one And every day she was 237 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 5: saying and I would be like, I wouldn't fuck with her. Really, 238 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 5: I wann't really trip on it. See, I won't really 239 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 5: say nothing. But then one day she said, it's like 240 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 5: one day she might get me a favor or something 241 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 5: like she might stay at. 242 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 6: An extra or or like we usually work together. 243 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 5: And I was like left her there when I went 244 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 5: to some stuff, and she was like, so you're gonna, 245 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 5: I say, you know what, tomorrow, let him come up 246 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 5: here and towy end up being and towing patting. 247 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 6: It was a big boy and. 248 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 5: They might have been sixteen. It was in tenth grade 249 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 5: because it took a couple of years, like yeah, bray 250 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 5: then no, actually sixteen year a big boy, know what 251 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 5: I'm saying. Like I was probably nineteen. They were probably 252 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 5: sixteen and big boy. No, no, no, I bring it. 253 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 5: They had ball heads. Really they came to my job 254 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 5: with ball. 255 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: So you you on the perfect always blunt hair. 256 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 5: But it was like really hip hop, like they came 257 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 5: up from cut off, cut off, cut off shorts, wow, 258 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 5: with their thermos on up underneath it all. 259 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 6: The ship reminded me of that. 260 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: The history of fucking ain't done. 261 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 6: Some ship riding me and me remind me of They 262 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 6: were dark skinned, remind me of my little brothers. 263 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 5: I'm like, imagine, I'm already out high school and I 264 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 5: raised two little sisters basically almost the same. When you 265 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 5: heard Being and dre flow, you said I could, and 266 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 5: it ain't just heard they flow the commitment. It's like 267 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 5: I feel the nerves, I feel everything. I'm like cause 268 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 5: I'm bossed up. I'm standing by my blades dropped top 269 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 5: front in front of the place. My blades are dropped 270 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 5: top home rams on. 271 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: The original range Boy first fifteens. 272 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 5: In the back, I'm sitting in front of a stow 273 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 5: that looked like I own it, even though it's like 274 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 5: it's I'm working for like my like my father. 275 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 6: So look we're looking good like I'm sitting in the parket. 276 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 5: I got homies hanging around a cool Breason and Gilt 277 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 5: might have been in the parky like for another meeting, 278 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 5: but the Shamee gang because we all the people and 279 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 5: they're doing music, but ain't. As I said, we done 280 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 5: met with Pebbles. At this point, we already got a group. 281 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: We already had a group that had that PA was 282 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 5: signed the Pelvi. That's right, K, they was already signed. 283 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 6: The Pebbles. 284 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 5: TLC had already came out, and I put TLC together 285 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 5: even though we hadn't produced waterfowls yet. 286 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 6: I still because I used to work at that same 287 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 6: beauty supply store. 288 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, a lot of people don't know you had 289 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: jo hands, not just in with al Kas goodie mob 290 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: PA and all him and organized noise, but also on 291 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: the left. 292 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 6: Nobody wouldn't they would have never met left. 293 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 5: I once for me, are you serious? Nobody Nobody left 294 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 5: I would have been introduced to Lanto music scene. Left 295 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 5: I was dancing behind this guy named Lorenzo Sleepy because 296 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 5: we was in the dance group too. 297 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 6: Sleepy through tie tied her father. 298 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 5: He used to manage the book Little Chiping Circuit show 299 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 5: down Tallahassee. And they wanted some yeeking behind Lorenzo. So 300 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 5: they came and got me, and they can't get Sleepy 301 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 5: Sleepy brought me and ramone in, but left I was 302 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 5: already there. Her name was q T and they they 303 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 5: really was gonna get rid of the real really was 304 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 5: gonna get rid of that. 305 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 6: Her birthday just passed to. 306 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 5: So they was gonna get rid of Lisa though, because 307 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: because the man was like, man, we want to have guys, 308 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 5: want to get them on some Bobby Brown type ship, 309 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 5: like we won't know about the girl thing. But she 310 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 5: was so fine and so cute. I jumped right on it. 311 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 5: It's like, as soon as you get while, you get 312 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 5: rid of. 313 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: Personal. 314 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: She was. She was a super talent man. She could 315 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 5: play classical piano. She was light skinned with a big 316 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 5: old but she came from Philly. She just came from Philly, 317 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 5: so you might video when he said the girl girl 318 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 5: with the lollipop Lisa, Yes, she was bank clothes just 319 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 5: like here she went rid of that thick and she 320 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 5: went really that thick. Both of them was beautiful. They 321 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 5: had to put baking clothes on the high all that rump. 322 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: Like back then when big booties wasn't cool. 323 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: Now it's the dang. 324 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 325 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 4: Wait a minute. So I know you had your hands 326 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: and so much. 327 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 7: History and and introducing a lot of people. But like 328 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 7: I said, I'm sitting next to two legends. 329 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 6: One legendary, right. 330 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: Legend. 331 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 6: I'm saying something he did y'all meet? 332 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 7: Though, how did y'all the first time y'all met one 333 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 7: of y'all? 334 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 6: Can you remember? 335 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 5: Well, well, me, it wouldn't even necessarily be what I'm saying. 336 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 5: That's when you're legend, Like I didn't meet him like 337 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 5: as a I didn't meet him like nobody saying like yo, 338 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 5: this is this. It is more about you have to 339 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 5: know who people are sometimes because now they coming up 340 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 5: in your life. 341 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 6: It's almost like like you. 342 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 7: Remember the first time y'all met either one of y'all. 343 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 6: I remember like before, like I remember. 344 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,119 Speaker 2: You at the at the Phoenix. This is a nightclub 345 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: over in Atlanta Marietta Street. It was that spot. It 346 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: was all the hip hop heads. You were running to 347 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: Q tip five dollar reco away everybody. 348 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, Like Michael Dobson all Michael, he 349 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 5: might have been, he might have been, he might have 350 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 5: been hosted that. 351 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 6: That was a hip hop. 352 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 5: Club that became the first place dance Baggy Small was 353 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 5: performed at first with Craig Max performed. 354 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: That they would come down here break Yes John Little 355 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: John DJ Little Johnny. 356 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 5: It was the hottest smile like myself. Now we're breaking 357 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 5: on the scene. These are Jerry Is somebody that's Now 358 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 5: you got to find out about the other people. 359 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 6: On the scene. 360 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 5: Radio people, your mask people that but but people that 361 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 5: are not just like cause you're looking at it as 362 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 5: these people hands off. These people were not on your 363 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 5: radar when you're making demos. People are not on your 364 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 5: radar when you trying to get your record. They don't 365 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 5: become the people you worry about until you actually have 366 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 5: a record deal. So you actually now to where But 367 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 5: you've been seeing these people that spikes, we never knew 368 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 5: what they did. So to a certain degree you look 369 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 5: at them as being bigger head because we ran into. 370 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: Each other years later we started having common dialogue. 371 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, because now it's almost like so it's all like 372 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 5: a certain degree they would get not the fact because 373 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 5: I'm like you kind of looking at them. 374 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 6: It's like they already in. 375 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 5: Right, they was already in because they was he might 376 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 5: have been working for different labels and doing stuff. They're 377 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 5: trying to become somebody that's on your I'm saying schedule. 378 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 5: So it's almost like that's why the first when I 379 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: talk about the other Jerry saying mean ain't the truth. 380 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: It's just more like when you want to when you're 381 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 5: trying to get in the game, you resent all the 382 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 5: people that's in it, right, you know what I'm saying, 383 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 5: but not purposely you know what I'm saying. So that 384 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 5: was like me first knowing him would be more of 385 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 5: some like okay, that's. 386 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 6: That do this today? 387 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 5: I got to like, so it's almost it wouldn't be 388 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 5: as much of a friendship. It's like like an acquaintance, 389 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 5: which where you know, like like then the more you 390 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 5: see people, you realize like cool, no, no, we're a family. 391 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: That's exactly and I mentioned this on a previous show. 392 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: That's one thing that I love about Atlanta. See it 393 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: seems like more of a family. Yeah, that clicks and 394 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: all that stuff, But at the same time you realize 395 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: Atlanta's music industry is more of a family. There hasn't 396 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: been like any real life just I mean, of course, 397 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure behind the scenes there's been some animost stuff there. 398 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: At the same time. 399 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: If I don't see Rico for a year, don't talk 400 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: to him, I can text him and say, hey man, 401 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: we're running to each other somewhere, and it's all is love. 402 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: It ain't none of that fake phony shit. 403 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: You're right. 404 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 7: That's why I never know. That's why I never went home. 405 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 7: That's why I came in. Scar Face brought me here 406 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 7: to work on the project, and I never went home 407 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 7: because I could not believe that people that I watched 408 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 7: on TV. Okay, just random at the gas station, walking 409 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 7: in and out of the studio. Okay, we was right 410 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 7: next to What's big. 411 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 4: Boy in the studio, Uh, stank on here? And I 412 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: was like, stank on there. 413 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 7: I ain't there somewhere walking in and out with the 414 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 7: dollar dude. And I'm from Little Orangebury. 415 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 4: South Carolina. 416 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 7: Right, I ain't never seen people driving these kind of cars, 417 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 7: and and and everybody I saw it myseful what I 418 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 7: thought everybody was a rapper or drug dealer. Right, And 419 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 7: but then it come to find out some people just 420 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 7: worked regular. 421 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 4: Jobs and still had nice cars. 422 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 6: Main saying, but okay. 423 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 4: Let me ask you something. 424 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 7: Have y'all ever worked together on any level? 425 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 5: But actually I remember with the Ennerscope deal, like like 426 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 5: we haven't. We haven't, like we talked about it, some 427 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 5: us personally getting together doing some stuff like for this 428 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 5: new project. But like actually back in the day, I 429 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 5: remember this one reason why I started like probably like 430 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 5: favoring toward them. I remember, like some of my Interscope 431 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 5: stuff when I was just starting to I was starting to. 432 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 6: Look for my allies because. 433 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 5: At this point I know that financially my company has 434 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 5: been responsible for making sure even if I'm come out 435 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 5: of my pocket. The fact that I had deals with 436 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 5: an Innerscope or or the Face or even like Little 437 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 5: when you're working with you do a song for like 438 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 5: corrupt anybody like small or whatever. They try to like 439 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 5: ask who are the people in Alanda that can help 440 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 5: really break a record, Because everybody would take you. Anybody 441 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 5: could take your money. Anybody can take. 442 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: Yeah that still happens to this day. 443 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anybody can take your money. 444 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 5: But and they can run it through the required requirements 445 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 5: and things that you know that it takes to you know, 446 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 5: as far as because it's smaller markets, it's not just 447 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 5: I'm gonna get you on V and get you on 448 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 5: one O seven. We got Columbus, we got Makeing, we 449 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 5: got these markets. These places can help build you up 450 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 5: and also can get you something going to where you 451 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 5: can actually get get some shows. Like that's why the 452 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 5: younger generation, that's what they're doing without the necessary leading 453 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 5: off with the radio or whatever, because you got perished 454 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 5: them because parents helped out with Rocko and Future stuff 455 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 5: early on or whatever. But but like, but I remember 456 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 5: like a couple of times when I would be places 457 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 5: and I knew I had a bunch of stuff going on, 458 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 5: and I knew we would burn records out because it 459 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 5: was Atlanta and we was loved. They might just start 460 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 5: playing Looking for Niki for a Little Will. They might 461 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: start playing Holiday for Wish Doctor. But now the rest 462 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 5: of the country ain't really playing it. 463 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: But those two records you just said, those are two 464 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: records that was produced by organized nors, not. 465 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 5: Not looking for NICKI we produced, but Holiday was was 466 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 5: produced by Circe and I didn't even know. No a 467 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 5: matter of fact, I say both of the guys names 468 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 5: that Rob down Rob. 469 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 6: It's a black. 470 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: Market, black market like market entertainment, black market black market was. 471 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: Quiet being me. Okay, I haven't it with scrappy or something. 472 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 6: Right like you said though, but that's legion. 473 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 4: Legion they started in the community radio. They said, I 474 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 4: do know, but that's. 475 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 6: Me black market entertainment. 476 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: And to have them a lawyer, right. 477 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 3: He's an attorney here. 478 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 4: Okay. So see I'm doing a little bit now. You 479 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 4: talked about your your deal. I'm just sitting here. You know, 480 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 4: I'm over here. You're telling me so much history. I 481 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: didn't know. I'm over here of course reading about it. 482 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 7: So it says you walked away from a seven, walked 483 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 7: away from seventeen million to leave and scope. 484 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, tell me about that. 485 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 4: Well, well, and that's just the last year story. 486 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 6: So not just because they printed it. 487 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 5: Now, we put out a documentary The Art of Organized Noise, 488 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 5: and I had I just tried because people, you know 489 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, especially now because I'm going through some 490 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 5: iris stuff or whatever, and people and people might say, like, like, 491 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 5: how you having any kind of problems when you had 492 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 5: twenty million dollars. It's like I didn't have twenty million dollars. 493 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 5: I had a twenty million dollar deal. And it's a 494 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 5: big difference what I'm saying. But legally I could have 495 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 5: stayed in their pockets for more. Of when I say 496 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 5: I walked away and left seventeen million on the table 497 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 5: is that we didn't have to like we had contract. 498 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 5: That's one thing about this business. The same way they 499 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 5: hold you accountable when you're blowing up, you try to 500 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 5: walk away like nah man, we still war some album 501 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 5: like like we can hold them accountable, like like I didn't. 502 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 6: My deal wasn't up now. 503 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 5: But I was a little I was depressed because of 504 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 5: my failures with the artists. 505 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 6: Maybe Little Will. I'm saying, the fact Little Will. 506 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: Albums, what did you take deal? 507 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 5: You had Cool Breathe, Watch for the Key, all that 508 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 5: Baby Baby and all that stuff which Doctor Holiday, all 509 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 5: that stuff was and Little Wheel looking for Nikki, And 510 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 5: I had a few other artists that I had done signed. 511 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 5: It didn't come out, So they gave me so much 512 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 5: car blunt. So where like you know, we built the 513 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 5: millionaires steel at my house, we done bought houses. So 514 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 5: we was saying we was getting something. We were spending money, 515 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 5: but we had more than we could have spent spun. 516 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 5: But but it was the fact that the success is 517 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 5: that they wouldn't we needed a TLC success like Kilo 518 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 5: was doing good, which stock was doing good, but it 519 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 5: ended up. 520 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: So it wasn't on that level. Y'all set a high 521 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 2: bar rego set a high fut might have sold at 522 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: this point, but all of them that went gold and platinum. 523 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: I mean, the koop Breeze at that point was maybe 524 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: almost gold. Wish Doctors at three hundred thousand and Kilo 525 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: was at over one hundred two hundred thousand. You know 526 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Keylo has probably got gold now, which 527 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: doctors over gold now and Kopbries is like platinum or whatever. 528 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: But but at that time, so when like they was 529 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: failures or whatever. But then when the only artist number 530 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: ones that came out, So when you say not seventeen 531 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: million on the table, it technically wasn't seventeen million in hardcast. 532 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 6: No, it wasn't. 533 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 5: It was just that like see once you signed a 534 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 5: country once, once we signed that deal, it was a 535 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 5: tweenty million dollars deal. That money was allocated, alligated, that 536 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 5: money allocated me like it was set aside for us. 537 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 5: It was already. It wasn't something they had to I 538 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 5: didn't have to make no money, make no more money. 539 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 5: I could have spent up to twenty million dollars in 540 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 5: trying to make them some money I got based on them. 541 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 6: I got I to spend. 542 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 5: After sucking up three or four million, I was like, 543 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 5: you know it, I'm go ahead. 544 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 7: I'm gonna stop. 545 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: So that takes a. 546 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 7: Line like that, that right there, it's like what you 547 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 7: just said. And I think these artists today, man, and 548 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 7: you know, Jerry and I we talk about it hot 549 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 7: with different guests because the process, while it's still the 550 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 7: same as a whole lot different with it being viral 551 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 7: and digital, and it takes a lot of the work 552 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 7: out of it. And I think that they see the 553 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 7: flash and here twenty million dollars or seventy million dollars 554 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 7: in automatically, boom, I got this check. I'm gonna just 555 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 7: go do whatever. 556 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: I'm good. 557 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 7: But like you just said it's allocated. They didn't just say, okay, 558 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 7: you know, let me kind out in twenty million quick, 559 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 7: don't take it. 560 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 6: To the house. 561 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 5: But but it's definitely you two where when like once 562 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: you each each each each point, you get to to 563 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 5: where you be like, okay, I just turned in these rects, 564 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 5: turn the record, they release another one point something me 565 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 5: I just turned this thin and turn this in. 566 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 6: They released this and that. 567 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 5: So it's almost like you do what you're supposed to 568 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 5: do and they doing. 569 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: It and they And with the Innerscope deal, it was 570 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 1: cool breed. 571 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 5: Which doctor which doctor, Louis Luill them the four records 572 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 5: that came out. But also I did a deal within 573 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 5: the Interscope deal. I had to deal with Karen Mason. 574 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 5: Karen Mason, she's she's working. She was working for one 575 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 5: Are Electric back then, but now she does a lot 576 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 5: of a lot of. 577 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: And all these deals was through organized noise. 578 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 5: Yes, organized noise as So you had before you a 579 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 5: contribution deal with in the Scope. 580 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: So and then before that, of course you had the 581 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: outcast goodie mobs through and that was through let's face, 582 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: let me ask you a question, out of all the 583 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: artists that you all worked with, meaning you all you 584 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: and Organized Noise. What artists and this is not throwing 585 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: any dirt on them, but what artists would you look 586 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: back and be most disappointed in that they didn't blow? 587 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 3: They had the. 588 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: Skills, of course, because for you all the sound great question, 589 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: Which artists would you look back? And you may say 590 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: you had done some things different. I'm sure they will 591 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: to whoever it is, But what artists that came through 592 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: the organized Noise pipeline would you say you would be 593 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: most disappointed in. 594 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's kind of hard to say, but it's really 595 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 6: I mean. 596 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: Let me before you answer, let me just say who. 597 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: I was expecting a whole lot more. 598 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 6: From Cool Breathe. 599 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: Because when I heard that watch for the hook I 600 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: think I think both of us might have answered the question. 601 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 5: It's not it's not a knock on Cool, it's just 602 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 5: being like saying, like we. 603 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 2: Expect I think the expectation because when I heard the 604 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: watch for the hook rack, even though it was the 605 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: whole crew, It's just that when I heard him, so. 606 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 5: We put put, we put we introduced it correctly, we 607 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 5: did it right, like like God blessed us. Where like 608 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 5: I remember that because I remember that. Pressure were like, 609 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 5: let me tell you something. I remember. They they can't 610 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 5: they came looking for him. It wasn't like it wasn't 611 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 5: just like they came looking for him. The white folks 612 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 5: came looking for him. The white folks, you say, the 613 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 5: white for the folks in the label. They hit me, man, 614 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 5: they said, cool breeze, what's that ship? I'm sitting I'm 615 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 5: sitting in the office. I'm sitting in the office. This 616 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 5: is my homeboy, who did Dirty South? 617 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 6: Who? Who? Really? 618 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 5: Ain't anybody asked anybody trying to give him no record 619 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 5: dealt you know what I'm saying, because everybody, anybody really 620 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 5: get to him. They only know him through us who 621 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 5: so so? So I was like, I'm not really rushing it. 622 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 5: I know I got him on point. I know that's 623 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 5: one of my homies. 624 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 6: He down. 625 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 5: I'm still I'm still putting money in this pipe. Whenever 626 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 5: a show come up with something, he produced to He's 627 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 5: the one who came up with the Dirty South one 628 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 5: to the two three, the four Dirty. 629 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 6: Dog everybody hands and. 630 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: I heard him as an artists out of here. 631 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. So I was like, I said, thought you South? 632 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 5: The first time you really heard South was like that 633 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 5: so and it was just a lot of so and 634 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 5: at that time, like he got that mace, he got 635 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 5: the he had. 636 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 6: Everything was there. 637 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: So it was really I remember watching but I was 638 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: in South Carolina. 639 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 6: And yeah, and what happened was that so now in 640 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 6: the scope. Literally this was so real. 641 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 5: I remember being out there with Jimmy, Jimmy, I Bean 642 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 5: and I don't mind telling it because it was like 643 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 5: and it was like Jimmy Jimmy was like, so, so 644 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 5: what are we gonna be? 645 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 6: So we're gonna do this deal with what are we 646 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 6: gonna do? I said, Man, I want to do? He said? 647 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 6: He said, what's up with the cool Brees? 648 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 5: Guy? 649 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 6: Wow? 650 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 5: So so I was like, we won't you, but we 651 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 5: won't cool No, No, we won't you. But I mean, 652 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 5: here goes some artists. Maybe he was how about that 653 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 5: cool Wees got? And I wanted this girl band called 654 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 5: Edith Wish. 655 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: Out of Atlanta. 656 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 5: They were like three. They end up signing. They end 657 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 5: up signing with Ariston didn't do the I'm saying, this 658 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 5: is what this. Jimmy Ivan got the private G five, 659 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 5: So your let's go back. I just go back and 660 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 5: sign these two groups that you speak of. You said 661 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 5: you wish was done. You said you can get cool. 662 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 5: Breed said you can get easy to wish. Okay, let's 663 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 5: go back and get them. I'm gonna show you. I'm 664 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 5: with you, I'm backing you. I'm your new business partner 665 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 5: in the music. But now that's cool, Bree, Yeah, that's cool. 666 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 5: So so we so we get on the g Fire, 667 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 5: the private first time riding on you know what I'm saying, 668 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 5: playing on even go that far and the skys Ma going. Man, 669 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 5: I'm like, wow, this is awesome. It's like, folks, this 670 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 5: is like I'm like you said, you said for a 671 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 5: little country nigga for. 672 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 6: I'm just like, man, this is like, this is real, 673 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 6: Like this ship is real. 674 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: What I'm talking about. 675 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: You had already made money. This was. 676 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: Already made. 677 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 5: I made money, but this was more about like I 678 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 5: ain't been on a private plane before. I hadn't somebody 679 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 5: treating you. I had been treated well, but this is 680 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 5: this is the whole was another level of money. It 681 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 5: was this was this went from us playing with me 682 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 5: a couple of million, now we're playing with opportunity twenty million. 683 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 5: This is before they get baby thirty million. This is 684 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, like, so once we fly back, we 685 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 5: go to the hotel, we get the top floor, we 686 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 5: gotta get the Swiss or something. And they said, so 687 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 5: call up artists, so cool brees. That's why I fuck 688 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 5: it was my dude, Like I called him up. He said, 689 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 5: whatever you want to do, read, let's do it. I said, 690 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 5: how much you need? How much you want to give me? 691 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 5: About one hundred thousand or something, saying you know what 692 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 5: I'm saying, So you know what I'm saying about it 693 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 5: did that, then the girl grew Edith Wish. 694 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 6: They didn't want to do it. 695 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 5: They end up going with Clive Davis and the matter 696 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 5: of fact of that's who I was. Basically my success 697 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 5: that I had had was with Clive and an Aristra. 698 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 5: I was leaving them quietly to go work with in 699 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 5: the scope. Basically you know what I'm saying. But but 700 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 5: but Edith Wish, that's what convinced them. 701 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 6: They was like shit. They was like, man, we were 702 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 6: the one who's working with him. 703 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 5: But but but when I was working with them, it 704 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 5: was also through the face. So Edith Wish end up 705 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 5: going there or whatever, and the Kool Brees I end 706 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 5: up signing the Cool Bries things. So like when it 707 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 5: was trying to Coolbries record, it was like, man, we 708 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 5: gotta come with it. So it's like even though he 709 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 5: was working on the album, it was like this ship 710 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 5: was dope. It was dope, but it was like it 711 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 5: really ain't because we were still pumping out cast records 712 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 5: out and our cast was getting better with their production, 713 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 5: not just what we were doing. By this time they 714 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 5: did them. They did hush that fuss. They probably was 715 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 5: on to. 716 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: It was after. 717 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: Because because organized No York after Southern playerlist of Cadillac 718 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: Music album, how much You at Aliens album. 719 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 6: Which is our half of it? Be half of it. 720 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: So it was slowly they were none in a bad way. 721 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: This is in themselves because they were starting to do 722 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: their own ship did. 723 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 5: All the sudden playlist and it wasn't even at l yeah, 724 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 5: winn't even. This was more like it was more about 725 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 5: because they brought even when Drey did Bumbs with bad Dad, 726 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 5: when did Jackson no No, but when he did it, 727 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 5: they brought it to me. When he first he put 728 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 5: the wrap on it, think about this ship. This is stupid. 729 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 6: It's almost like you can't. Yeah. 730 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: So it was like how do I hold your success? 731 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 5: You hold it. 732 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 6: I ain't got to worry about doing that, man. 733 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: Because he's still your artist. 734 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and y'all, don't you got to hit so 735 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 5: I can see him go trying to make another hit? 736 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 7: You like it? So? 737 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: Did that? Did that? Did that cause some tension? 738 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 6: No? 739 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 5: No, it really was what I'm saying the fact that's 740 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 5: why I love him to the depth to this day. 741 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 5: And I hated to have to say on the documentary. Oh, 742 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 5: y'all didn't thank us, y'all didn't do this because y'all 743 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 5: just forgot because of the business part of me dealing 744 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 5: with in a scope in l A read being in 745 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 5: y'all head every day and him knowing that he was 746 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 5: trying to get the aster, so he needed y'all to 747 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 5: be propping. 748 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Him up, right but the time, so the l A 749 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: do a little? Was it a little divisive? Straight up? 750 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 5: It's as simple as when you're going out to the Grammys, 751 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 5: who is a who's the part of a Grammy party? 752 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 5: Who's like, like, who's going showing up at events with you? 753 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 5: Who is doing certain I mean like if. 754 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm not l A kind of like grabbed him and 755 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: said I'm not. 756 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 5: I'm not doing it because of the fact that, like 757 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 5: I'm busy, I got this Innerscope deal and I don't 758 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 5: try to felt a certain way about that. Now the 759 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 5: didn't feel no kind of way about it. 760 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, but it just kind of opened the door. 761 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 5: L A. That's an honest excuse, and it's reason for 762 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 5: for out of sight, out of mind. 763 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: So not to compare it, but it's like you with 764 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: a chick and you out of town traveling and you 765 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: ain't giving her as much time, and the dude swoop 766 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: people like, baby, I'm gonna take you to the movie. 767 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: You man right, I'm gonna take you and they're like, 768 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: oh yeah, my dude out of time he was he 769 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: he don't spend that much time with me. 770 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: So it's not to compare to the bro but I'm 771 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: just saying they're not. 772 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 5: And even more so, this is like this is a 773 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 5: family that that you used to seeing together. You got 774 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 5: to got a mother day, you got you got a 775 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 5: mom and a dad that's always together, but now dead 776 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 5: is doing something else. Mom was always there anyway, l 777 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: A was always there, but now I'm not there. 778 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 6: So when you see you thinking thanks mom. 779 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: So was it any years of life? 780 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 5: Like sports athletes, I'm pretty sure they did be there, 781 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 5: but the first person they think is this their mom. 782 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: And the dad be there ryme winning every game out 783 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: in the yard. 784 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 5: So so I brought it up because I was then 785 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 5: bothered me a little bit. 786 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: But as a man though, was it turmoil? Was it 787 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 3: any beef? Was it ever in that? 788 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 6: And? Never? No turmoil? 789 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 5: And the reason why I went no turmoil is because 790 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 5: of they still played, They still looked up to me, 791 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And if anything I acknowledged 792 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 5: why I was a little distant was because l A 793 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 5: read me and him wasn't really cool. It was turmoil. 794 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 5: Was me and l A read between organized No, it's 795 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 5: in the face. 796 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 4: And what he was doing. 797 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: Essence looking at it just just just straight up you 798 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: felt like you all felt like la did some fun 799 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 2: ship and trying to do some old Divide and Concker 800 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: type ship like I would never. 801 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 5: I wouldn't know, I mean because because I'm not only 802 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 5: is he like my mentor mentor type of person to me? 803 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 5: Like he if I said he did some fun ship, 804 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 5: I gotta say it to his face first, so he 805 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 5: say I got because I felt like that I would 806 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 5: tell him if you did some function, they gonna tell 807 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 5: you, you know what you did? 808 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 4: Hey, you know what, I'm like, I don't. 809 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you. So I was like, but he 810 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 5: just I'm saying he did. I learned stuff from him too. 811 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 5: He wiggled the right way business wise. What's the word 812 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 5: that you true? 813 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. 814 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 5: Like I moved, but I did to deal with and 815 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 5: I talked to him about it. I said, man, when 816 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 5: I did deal with in the scope I needed you 817 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 5: to beat my big brother. 818 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: Then, Oh for y'all to deal that that now I'm 819 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: thinking about it. 820 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 6: I couldn't afford to. 821 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 4: He wasn't a position yet. 822 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 5: He couldn't afford to the Face Records had they had 823 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 5: sole part of the Face to Arista already. So what 824 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 5: he was trying to offer us wasn't as much as 825 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 5: he said, Okay, I'm gonna offer you a record deal 826 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: that we're gonna have fifty to fifty. 827 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 6: But I only own twenty five percent of my fifty. 828 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: Like like twentyve Rico Rico Rico, looking back at it hindsight, 829 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: with you all having a strong relationship and having had success, 830 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: I know with La. Do you look back sometimes, do 831 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: you ra impact look back and say, you know what, 832 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 2: maybe we just rolled with La because we had already 833 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: had successful man even if the check wasn't as big, 834 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 2: because I know in my career I've looked at West 835 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 2: check was bigger, but I'm like, I probably could have had. 836 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 6: A longer run. We most definitely, we, most definitely. 837 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: You would have rolled with La no matter what happened. 838 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 5: Then maybe most definitely we most definitely would have had 839 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 5: to leave or get that check because we would have 840 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 5: hated l A. 841 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 6: My niggas was already mad. 842 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 5: It would have been a lot of boys throwed out 843 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 5: there at that time if we didn't, because us and 844 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 5: the outcasts would have had to. 845 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 6: Share that same deal. 846 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 5: You never see the story that Tony, the story that 847 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 5: Tony Braxton tails, the story that TLC tals y'all ain't no, 848 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 5: ain't gonna tell it and Musher ain't gonna tell it 849 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 5: because the people that they was with didn't have to 850 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 5: they have to split it with him. 851 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: If like, if we would have still the whole deal 852 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 2: with Jimmy Ivan was way better than La red deal. 853 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 5: Yes, La La reliberated like literally gave people freedom that 854 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 5: we just couldn't handle. We had, we had way more 855 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 5: money to spend and throw around. We just we just 856 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 5: you said, l A, you that Jimmy, Jimmy. Jimmy paid 857 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 5: l A's debts. Wow, Jimmy took care of us. 858 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 6: Man. 859 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 5: Jimmy took care of us. L A got to his man. 860 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 5: So so we got the better relationship at this very day. Like, 861 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 5: I'm sorry that, I mean, that's all. I'm disappointed by 862 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 5: what they're saying. Big brother dig I'm like, I know, 863 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 5: I know it's coming down to any female that's not 864 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 5: a problem. That's not that can't be a problem like that. 865 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 5: So that's just being greedy, being greedy, like because they 866 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 5: want to say that that he harass people. So if 867 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 5: you're ready, mean you're being overly flirtasted some something. So 868 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 5: my job requires for me to to to not complment 869 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 5: the girl on her ass because are not not make 870 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 5: my eyes not look at them titties? Well, ye there 871 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 5: what I'm gonna do. That's like that that's the the 872 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 5: job requirement. Means that that was the job requirement. 873 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 4: But this industry we work, I don't. 874 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 5: Know, I'm playing like like if that's what if those 875 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 5: are the same thing. Like, man, you come and smell like, 876 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 5: we lose a job. If you, if you, if you, 877 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 5: if you, if you're coming here alcohol on your brother, 878 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 5: you're losing your job. Just give me the requirements. That 879 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 5: don't mean I'm not going to smoke weed, don't mean 880 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna treat alcohol, but I'm not gonna do 881 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 5: it on the job. I can forgure outside this motherfucker. 882 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 5: I can see girls whatever I want to see him. 883 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 5: But if that's the setup, you gotta realize, man, sometimes 884 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 5: that's the setup. 885 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: Relationship with you in l a read? But is there 886 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: any formal relationship personal? 887 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 4: Have you talk to him since this happened. 888 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 6: I haven't called him since it happened because I'm embarrassed. 889 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: But for him, this happened. We were talking about the sexurasmus. 890 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 6: But his birthday is coming up June seventh. 891 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 4: You should call him. 892 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 6: I am. 893 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: Relationship. 894 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 6: I mean not that I even boyd this ship. Now 895 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 6: I have to say something. I can't be talking relations 896 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 6: with Jimmy Ivan. 897 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: Is that relationship with Jimmy Ivan? 898 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 5: You know what, Jimmy Ivan, I believe that I believe 899 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 5: the day is love. You know what I'm saying last 900 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 5: time I seen him, I know Jamie, I know his wife, 901 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 5: his kids. I mean I feel like his nephew. 902 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 6: DJ or whatever like you man, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 903 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 6: So it's it's love. That's family. Like I know the family. 904 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 6: I know I've been. I spent a part of the years. 905 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 6: They really brought me into their home. 906 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 5: But every day I can't call jim And that's I 907 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 5: got something to tell him that's gonna make him some money. 908 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 5: But if I ever if I ever have something that 909 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 5: yo yo, Jimmy, ain't recall us do it. That's like 910 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 5: it's love. Big regions, right, what about Drian Big Yeah, yeah, 911 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,479 Speaker 5: absolutely big. But the boomer Verse coming out right now, yeah, 912 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 5: sixteen we got songs on now, we got. 913 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: So it's so organized noise and and and big Boy. 914 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm back. 915 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 5: Back, big by, big Boy put checking out count everything 916 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 5: like we stay as long as he working, were making 917 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 5: some taking stand up ship. He's taking Ray out on 918 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 5: the road with him, like doing DJ and stuff. 919 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 4: That's why that's my dollar. 920 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 5: Hey, Steve, y'all doing background. So he did he never 921 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 5: forgot well well well not just forgot. He it's just 922 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 5: like it's supposed to be He just said, like, I 923 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 5: feel better doing it when y'all around doing it. 924 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 4: It keeps gets it real, It keeps it real like 925 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 4: this is. And you know in the industry that's so fake. 926 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 7: Man like, if you can find some people that started 927 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 7: with you when it was real and you can keep 928 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 7: him around you to keep some shred of actual realness. 929 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 4: That's why I was so glad when Big and his 930 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: wife when they was about to separate. 931 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 7: Man, I prayed so hard and they got back together 932 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 7: because I was like, no, I don't want them to 933 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 7: break up, because they will never he especially will never 934 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 7: find anything like you know what he had heard, just 935 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 7: because of the authenticity of it. 936 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 5: But yeah, oh and you know what, man like, when 937 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 5: went through it, he went through or whatever, that's what 938 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,720 Speaker 5: it was, a similar sexual harassment. 939 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 6: That's se just put his foot in his mouth. 940 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 3: I remember now. 941 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 5: He said he had beat the charge and just said 942 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 5: something real fly d lady, Well, well he said something 943 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 5: fly like. 944 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 6: I only want to bring it up. 945 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 5: It's about breaking the window if how you know the 946 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 5: windows broke, if it went no glass on the ground, 947 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 5: boys stout, I'm saying some shit like that. 948 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 2: Hey, you talking, you all have a solid relationship still 949 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 2: and other members we got relationship. 950 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 5: Like at that point when I saw that, when that happened, 951 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 5: I didn't really say that to him about it. I 952 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 5: didn't call him whatever. But when I saw other people 953 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 5: taking digs at him, and I look still, and I 954 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 5: saw how he was like taking the lower the lower role, 955 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 5: like I mean that lower ro but the high road 956 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 5: of like saying not saying nothing really just kind of 957 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 5: like removing itself from the scene. That's when I had 958 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 5: to call my little brother and be like, heym' tell 959 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 5: you something about about who you are. First of all, 960 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 5: you know, you was raised by your mama and you 961 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 5: got a sister. That this with you right now, I said, 962 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 5: And that ain't never been a problem with you. I 963 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 5: mean whatever, now, you always had a fly mouth, and 964 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 5: you just you got fly at the mouth and inappropriate 965 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 5: in an inappropriate moment or whatever when people were feeling 966 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 5: a little sensitive about it or whatever. Like accept that 967 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 5: except that that you made a mistake and said something wrong. 968 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 5: You ain't did nothing wrong. So it ain as bad 969 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 5: as you think. But the perceptions everything. 970 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: Come back. Like big boy does he you know, because 971 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: he's had a lot. 972 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 5: Of s since that moment. And not saying that made 973 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 5: him need his family more, but was reminded him what 974 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 5: family was. 975 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 4: Ford though, started reuniting. 976 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 5: Goodie Mob reunited that I'm saying when that happened, that's 977 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 5: what stopped Goodie Mob because Goodie Mond was actually there 978 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 5: was stuff going on. 979 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 6: It was he had already got the boys back together. 980 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 6: They had to show on TVs. 981 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 5: They had a lot of little for me and end 982 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 5: up losing some of that stuff or whatever like whatever 983 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 5: because of that. But after that, you know, after you know, 984 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 5: after it looked like you know, everybody tried to black 985 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 5: bottom of the but like you know, we had to 986 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 5: stand up. Well, we'll just show him like you know, 987 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 5: I mean like like like yeah, yeah, like for real, 988 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 5: up like that, like like like like he ain't raped nobody. 989 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 990 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 5: He said something dumb after he got after his charges 991 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 5: was dismissed, which was arrogance and like. 992 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 3: Guilty of arrogance anything. So before we get out of here. 993 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 4: I got, I'm sorry, I got, I would be remissed. 994 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 6: I remember your name to Tany, I do remember TANGI 995 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 6: like you, I do remember that name. 996 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 7: I do. 997 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: Really, Like she said, I'm trying to think. It's like 998 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: she got trying to get to say. 999 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 7: You do no, but not no no, because I know 1000 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 7: his baby mama kid you yeah, got that. I love 1001 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 7: his little boys little, but they grown now. I ain't 1002 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 7: see the man years you're talking my ninth grade. 1003 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,439 Speaker 6: Ninth grade, we got kids. 1004 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: Damn I got that. 1005 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I ain't paying for college yet. 1006 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 7: Well I am so I feel I'm not too over 1007 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 7: the off camera you see, so least I got a question. 1008 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 7: I'm feaking the family future. I would be remiss if 1009 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 7: I did not mentioned future future is your blood cousins, 1010 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 7: my blood, your mama's sister, son, and something. 1011 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 4: Like, what is this? 1012 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 5: It's my daddy is my daddy's side, My daddy's my 1013 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 5: daddy's brother, your daddy brother, my uncle, my daddy, my 1014 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 5: daddy brother is future's granddaddy. 1015 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 7: Okay, your daddy brother, your granddad so so so, so 1016 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 7: you're like third because taking third becuse I was got 1017 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 7: to count day they have to count how many removed 1018 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 7: they are having kids together? 1019 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 5: Makes you know what I'm saying exactly what it's about. 1020 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 5: So my daddy and and his and his granddaddy so 1021 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 5: so so like his granddaddy is my uncle. But his 1022 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 5: granddaddy child is Nate, which is my cousin. This his 1023 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 5: future's daddy, which is closing up the first what it 1024 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 5: is that but it is that future age like like 1025 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 5: I'm like twelve, thirteen years old in the future, so 1026 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 5: like his daddy might be eight years old than me. 1027 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 5: You know, I'm saying his daddy might be fifty something, 1028 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 5: but future might be early thirties. I'm forty five, so 1029 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 5: it was like my future. So so it's like so 1030 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 5: it's almost like I'm like an uncle look at but 1031 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 5: really I'm like I'm really legally I'm a cousin. 1032 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 4: But like, so what at what point did you know? 1033 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 7: I mean, were y'all close as he was growing up 1034 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 7: because he's so much older than did you know he 1035 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 7: was even doing music? 1036 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 6: Did He wasn't doing no music until he met me, 1037 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 6: Like like like he was he was rapping. He was rapping. 1038 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 5: He was like my dad and them because I didn't 1039 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 5: I didn't gro up around my dad, so I didn't 1040 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 5: meet my dad, so I was them twelve and then 1041 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 5: then after that, my daddy was a provider, like he 1042 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 5: would give me money every birthday from that point on. 1043 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 4: But you didn't like to go over to the house. 1044 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 6: As soon as I started doing music and I started 1045 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 6: popping a little bit, like. 1046 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 4: All the family start going. 1047 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 6: Like that. 1048 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 5: More like I just felt like my mom would say 1049 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 5: my daddy started calling my mom like and I felt 1050 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 5: I felt some kind of way like where was you 1051 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 5: when I was? I just felt like, man, you don't know, dude, 1052 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 5: I love you to death. You just we don't talk. 1053 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 5: You gave me my first he gave my first thousand 1054 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 5: dollars when I was thirteen fourteen. You gave me three 1055 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 5: thousand dollars when I was sixteen, bought me a car. 1056 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 5: Like like, we ain't talk, but you provided so like 1057 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 5: like quietly. If anything, I probably something that. 1058 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 4: Made you how you were about the Dungeon family. Think 1059 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 4: about it. That's exactly what you say. 1060 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 5: You know. 1061 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 7: When I look at these pictures and I see you 1062 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 7: standing in the middle like these old pictures, and I 1063 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 7: see them all standing around you like these old pictures 1064 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 7: or whatever, that's exactly what. 1065 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 4: You are to them. A per He paid what he said, 1066 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 4: He made sure said something. 1067 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 5: In his Dungeon family, and I think that's what that's all. 1068 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 5: People look at you as the page. Yeah, so something 1069 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 5: was like and back then people would look at like 1070 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 5: the dope boy. And and what made us greater was 1071 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 5: that it wasn't that simple. It wasn't about but I 1072 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 5: wasn't selling drugs. But but yes, people got to realize 1073 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 5: drug dealers are become They are the patriots a certain neighborhoods. 1074 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 6: And the ones that gonna make sure yours giving. 1075 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 3: Paved. 1076 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 5: They're gonna make sure that the community should get taken 1077 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 5: care of a little bit more or whatever. 1078 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 4: Like And but when the future come to you, how 1079 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 4: was he? 1080 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 6: Your future was. 1081 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,240 Speaker 5: Probably like I remember being at I'm going to a funeral, 1082 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 5: going to a funeral one of my uncles passed away, 1083 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 5: and I remember my dad them being like, you got 1084 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 5: a cousin that rapped that can shoot basketball. The really 1085 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 5: was like, man, your cousin me head boy, bigger ass head. 1086 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 5: I said, I know my brother Rocks. Be like, man, me, 1087 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 5: it's a white boy shoot basketball. He said, he said, 1088 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 5: but but you said Rock is in Roco Are your brother? Yeah, 1089 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 5: that's that's crazy. My brother name is Rock and col 1090 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 5: him Rocco. But it's not the Rocco from from Rock 1091 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 5: because because if he if he was our cousin, he 1092 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 5: went have been suing. 1093 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 1: Future, how did that happy? 1094 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,439 Speaker 6: We're gonna do that? Like you said? 1095 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 4: That funeral? 1096 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 6: He was at the funeral whatever. 1097 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 5: And and at this point, my daddy had told me 1098 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 5: I had a little cousin that rapped, But I thought 1099 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 5: it was a dude from Kurtwood because our family from 1100 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 5: Kurtwood to Kurtwood myself something. He's just somebody in the 1101 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 5: hood that came up to my dad and my dad 1102 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 5: old trap less you know what I'm saying, selling dope, 1103 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 5: don't more like that. 1104 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but. 1105 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 6: Back then he moved them oh G. 1106 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 7: O G. 1107 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1108 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 5: So and so that's when I thought we had I 1109 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 5: thought he went ridly my blood. He's just somebody that 1110 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 5: they were claiming from the hood. So I end up 1111 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 5: at a couple of funerals and I see this nigga again. 1112 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 5: I'm like, I see him again. I see him. I 1113 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 5: was like, I said, oh, you're still doing your little You. 1114 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 6: Still wrap me? 1115 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 5: Said yeah, I say, I always he probably seventeen eighteen. 1116 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 6: He was young. 1117 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 5: He was he had dropped out of school out of 1118 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 5: ninth grade, so I couldn't go back when he was 1119 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 5: in school. But I remember I see him at a 1120 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 5: couple of funerals. I was like, so you're my real 1121 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 5: tal was about it was about two or three years old. 1122 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 6: My daddy. He had about two or three brothers. Tell 1123 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 6: me some three brothers had passed. 1124 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 5: But that's why futures granddaddy, Uncle Boot gone like like 1125 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 5: like like like futures granddaddy like like which he would 1126 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 5: love the most for him to be living right now, 1127 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 5: Like that would be the one you would see with him, 1128 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 5: like I snoop be having somebody the way you got 1129 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 5: his hype from uncle his looks because he's taller than 1130 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 5: his daddy. I'm taller than his daddy. Like he got 1131 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 5: his hype from his uncle Boot like I mean, I 1132 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 5: mean from his granddad and his granddad, which is my uncle. 1133 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 5: So I alled them to pass. Basically a lot of 1134 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 5: them past. If it was ten of them, some of 1135 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 5: them gone, eight of them so, and two or three 1136 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 5: of them have went within like three or four years 1137 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 5: or whatever. 1138 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 6: But he came to you, he ate, that's my friends. 1139 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 5: At the funeral with that particular dad. At the funeral, 1140 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 5: I was feeling good. It seems like you've been going. 1141 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 4: It's a good your emotional. 1142 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 6: I'm looking at I'm making my dad happy. I'm at 1143 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 6: the funeral. I can feel I feel the. 1144 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 5: Love of like like like y'all know know who I am. 1145 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,919 Speaker 5: I've been on this by now or whatever, y'all see, 1146 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 5: I fuck with you. 1147 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 6: I love y'all. 1148 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 5: I'm just like y'all did. I looked like my daddy 1149 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 5: the most. I stuttered, I talked fast, so I almost 1150 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 5: like It's like I could tell that everybody's looking at me, 1151 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 5: not just because the outcast stuff, but because damn, he 1152 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 5: looked like I'm guss or whatever. So when I seen 1153 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 5: me here, I just pulled him over. I put him 1154 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 5: to the side, and I was like, I said, so 1155 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 5: you're my real cousin. He'sa liked Yeah, I told you. 1156 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 5: I was like, I said, man, I said, how you get? 1157 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 5: He said, I rolled up. 1158 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 6: It wasn't now. I said, but you can ride with me. 1159 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 6: I take you home. I took I had to roll. 1160 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 5: I took him back to the house with me, and 1161 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 5: from that day before I let him start staying at 1162 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 5: the house with me. 1163 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 4: Are you serious? From that day? What did you did 1164 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 4: he rap in the car? Did he have a CD? 1165 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:39,879 Speaker 7: I mean. 1166 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 5: When I heard him, I was like, oh, yeah, this 1167 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,879 Speaker 5: nigga dope, like he might have just flow some dope, 1168 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 5: but trapp shit. I was like, boy, move on, And 1169 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 5: that was like I wanted to find out more about 1170 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 5: my father's side too, so I would have him sit 1171 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 5: around with me and it really would be more like 1172 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 5: he might be trapping, might be doing street ship. But no, 1173 00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 5: he can get dropped off at my house. 1174 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 4: Okay, he got some places to say. He never got 1175 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 4: to worry about You never got a worry about. 1176 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 5: That, even with his son Kobe when he had Kobe. 1177 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 5: When he had Kobe, like my son Deuce was just 1178 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 5: being born too, so it was like you got a 1179 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 5: cool uncle. Now that you got a babysitter. Two boom, 1180 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 5: like like my family supposed to be. You want to 1181 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 5: work together. 1182 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 4: Though yeah, I was gonna say, but when he don't 1183 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 4: say that, like is that, come. 1184 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,399 Speaker 1: Do something and this next time, let's work. 1185 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 5: Let's work well to be very honest, man, the first 1186 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 5: two or three years, he's at my house, like he 1187 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 5: wrote Blueberry Young Young for Lulis Chris. He wrote a 1188 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 5: couple like he was at the house, and I got 1189 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 5: him a record deal. We had him signing dream Works 1190 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 5: and the group called the Connect Group called the connect. 1191 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 5: I got him to deal with dream works him the 1192 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 5: first chain got him all like thirty thousand dollars advance 1193 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:43,439 Speaker 5: a piece. 1194 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 6: So I introduced him to the guy, introduced him to it. 1195 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 6: I got him like I got his mouth weed on it. 1196 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 5: Then when I went through my hours sting, when I 1197 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 5: was losing that house over there at another house, that's 1198 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 5: when he ended up linking up with Rocco and a. 1199 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, god damn la night and. 1200 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 4: Hey, I know your cousin. Listen, you can come over 1201 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 4: to mine. I got a couple. 1202 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 6: Over here. 1203 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 2: Don't be with you on Roco. You looked at it's 1204 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 2: just business or is that your cousin beef with him? 1205 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 5: No? 1206 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 6: No, not, My cousin's just mad. 1207 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 5: But because the fact that he's claiming so much when really, 1208 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 5: come on, man, it ain't like you got it. 1209 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 6: Ain't like that. It ain't like you had to feed 1210 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 6: me like that. You took care of me. 1211 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 5: But but, but my cousin, I also got to recognize 1212 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 5: friendship means something somebody. Even if he's just let you 1213 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 5: use his studio sessions, even though he didn't he didn't 1214 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 5: book your studio time, he might let you use the 1215 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 5: end of his studio sessions, and so you might look 1216 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 5: at like you hustled for that, you crab out for that, 1217 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 5: like ship I waited to the end of your session 1218 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 5: and I worked for an hour and a half. But 1219 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 5: the Mike Wheels and them Sunday did them deep them 1220 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 5: producers you met, they was coming to bring Roco beats 1221 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 5: right right? So so yeah, you picked out, you got 1222 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 5: your beats early in free but you wouldn't even got 1223 00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 5: them beats around me. 1224 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 4: What's your relationship? 1225 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 5: Have you realized your way to how you got yours 1226 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 5: went through him and it worked out. So I was like, 1227 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 5: you owe him, you owe him, take care of him, 1228 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 5: take for that or whatever. He shouldn't have to ask that. 1229 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 4: We had that conversation with the future. 1230 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 6: No, I hope you hear this. 1231 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 4: Is it like we're family and but he's grown and. 1232 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 5: He rea I love him to death man, So he 1233 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 5: can't do no wrong, you know what I'm saying. If anything, 1234 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 5: last time I seen him was at his show and 1235 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,439 Speaker 5: I got got went up there and got me free 1236 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 5: T shirts, free jackets, backstage passes, brought my little lem 1237 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 5: yar old son watching the show on the side of 1238 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 5: the stage, playing with his son, prince. 1239 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 4: But I have seen give you credit a lot sever credit. 1240 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 6: I don't. I don't bother me. 1241 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,720 Speaker 5: I show up, but when I show up, I speak 1242 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 5: to be treated just like how I'm saying, Like like 1243 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 5: I talked to. 1244 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: His mom and and away you future. 1245 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 3: We family. 1246 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 5: Let's keep it like yll blood blood you always. I'm 1247 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,919 Speaker 5: also problem. I'm extra proud of them, but I don't. 1248 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 5: If I'm needed for some business stuff, he can go 1249 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 5: here and he will like whatever. But but most of 1250 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,360 Speaker 5: the time, like like you know what I'm saying, he 1251 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 5: listened and learned a lot. I give him credit. He 1252 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 5: really did. He he really did pick up all my 1253 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 5: game and say like he love in my that's my thought. 1254 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:20,919 Speaker 1: That's a lot of games. 1255 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, in my thought process. 1256 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 5: D C. He'll scorpio, so I'm pism the water sign, 1257 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 5: so he's scorpio. He got flavored, he got my piece 1258 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 5: he got and he got the same d n A. 1259 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 5: He just got to get the same morals in the same. 1260 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 6: Character. Reasons why we do certain stuff or whatever, like 1261 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 6: had that street character. 1262 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: You know, we can sit here is dad, you got 1263 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:54,280 Speaker 1: au basketball because my son, Look. 1264 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,240 Speaker 4: Listen, when I was a little here about Awa. 1265 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm growing up, don't hey, that's a lot. 1266 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 7: When I had to sneak and listen to hip hop okay, 1267 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 7: before my daddy, you know what I'm saying, Like all 1268 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 7: my daddy played with eight tracks and records, right, and 1269 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 7: I had to hurry up and try to sneak and 1270 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 7: listen to some ll cool J. And then you know, 1271 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 7: when I started hearing about like out Cast and Tills, 1272 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 7: Like when I started hearing I mean, I used to 1273 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 7: love it so much, but these were like things. 1274 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 4: I had on the wall, you know what I mean. 1275 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 4: Goodie Mob was on the wall. Then when I started. 1276 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: Rapping Word Magazine. 1277 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, when when I started rapping, and then I met 1278 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 7: Goodie Mob. Okay, I was twelve years old and we 1279 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 7: recorded a mixtape in Studio one twelve and Orangebird. I 1280 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 7: was in a girl group and we was called a QTS, 1281 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 7: me and my identical twin cousins. 1282 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 4: And I remember hearing Seelo and I was. 1283 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 7: Like, oh my god, listen to the man Boys because 1284 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 7: he busted out in song in the middle of his rap, 1285 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 7: and I was like, oh my god, this. 1286 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 4: Man, They're going to be big, Like I mean. 1287 00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 7: I'm a little girl. 1288 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 4: Mike Allen was then. 1289 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 5: Remember that I remember that toy. It was a good 1290 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 5: about that first they went on. Back then it was 1291 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 5: like a little under like a little. 1292 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 7: Old time is limited for original money. 1293 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 4: Click get him on the old wrapping up. 1294 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 6: You know what to look at the kid that went 1295 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 6: to jail? What's his name? Oh? Yeah, God, you just 1296 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 6: said his name. 1297 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? The little lights getting on from New York about. 1298 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 6: Video? 1299 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,760 Speaker 1: What what rico? 1300 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 4: Wait? 1301 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 3: And what organized? What they are? They are the gambling 1302 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 3: huff of our generation? And what do you mean by that? 1303 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: Gamble Huff changed the whole? 1304 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 2: Teddy Pendergrass and Old J's and all those guys from 1305 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 2: the Seven Musicianship back to like organized noises what they 1306 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 2: are to our generation with changing the whole, I mean 1307 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 2: they gave instrumentation and they I mean they didn't. They 1308 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 2: wasn't And I'm not knocking sampling. Samplings has been a 1309 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 2: part of hip hop from beginning. They came with the 1310 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 2: instrument We built on sampling. 1311 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 5: We we used the same sampling format, but we also 1312 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 5: put live musicianship on it so it wouldn't be so. 1313 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 2: And I want to say I want to say this, 1314 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 2: you my homie, you my partner. I just want to 1315 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 2: say thank you, my nigga straight up, because what you 1316 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 2: with your ray pat and with all the how y'all? 1317 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I remember, and I'm gonna say this. I 1318 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 2: know we both got to get out of here. When 1319 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 2: it wasn't cool to claim the A. Y'all were claiming 1320 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 2: the motherfucker Atlanta and claiming it with the king with 1321 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 2: the furry kingos with the socks and flip flop. 1322 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 1: Y'all was doing it. And I'm not clouding no other people. 1323 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 2: Everybody want to take credit for putting Atlanta on, But 1324 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: y'all niggas really was claiming the A and made it 1325 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 2: cool to be from where everywhere was the point they 1326 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 2: came to colling this what y'all made it cool? And 1327 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 2: we're going this ship. Were from the A and we 1328 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 2: are the So I want to say thank you, but 1329 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 2: I need one. I need you to do one favorite 1330 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 2: for before we. 1331 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 3: Get out of here. Can you try to do some 1332 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 3: type of Dungeon family reunion if it's just a concert. 1333 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 7: Fa Oh my god, get out of my head, Jared, 1334 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 7: get out of my head, Get out of my head. 1335 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: Hand I'm somebody. Everybody you know, let me get get let. 1336 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 5: Me get that everybody they did the one music fist. 1337 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 5: That's just so because of that three thousand one, three 1338 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 5: thousand with them. Oh he was I was in prison. 1339 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 4: Everybody got to run. 1340 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was fish. 1341 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 6: That's what we got the DVD coming up. We got 1342 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 6: the movie because said. 1343 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 4: About the documentary. Everything about the documentary. He already told 1344 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 4: you how he likes to be treated. Now you know 1345 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He told everybody. 1346 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 7: Look, you told me about was a low key telling 1347 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 7: us on another Look, that's time treating that. 1348 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1349 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:56,479 Speaker 1: You're supposed to you come on the show. You gotta 1350 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 1: get your pick. You pick your cigar. Man, you gotta 1351 00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: get your cigar. 1352 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 6: Start to show you. 1353 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 7: Got the smoker, get in my weave. And we can't 1354 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 7: do that because it ain't get my head done. 1355 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to say this before we sign out. 1356 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 6: Uh. 1357 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 3: Two things. 1358 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 2: My mentor used to always tell me that there's only 1359 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 2: five to ten percent of people on this planet that 1360 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 2: have the gift the gap and have the ability to 1361 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 2: step into a room and make people gravitate toward them. 1362 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 3: He said, Jerry, you are one of them, and I am. 1363 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 2: And I can say this from being around you for 1364 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 2: years when you come into a room with your gift, 1365 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 2: the gas and your gift gift the gap and your 1366 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 2: charisma and all that you one of them five to 1367 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 2: ten percent. 1368 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: People on this. 1369 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 6: Look. 1370 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: Before I signed out, I always three people my mentor. 1371 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 2: I just mentioned Stanley Bethel rest in peace, my dad, 1372 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 2: Thomas Clark rest in peace, and my homeboys and tears 1373 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 2: through at one on one signing off for Tangi. 1374 00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,040 Speaker 1: Lark and Legendary Jerry and Legendary Rico Way sign. 1375 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 2: Storytime with the Legendary Jerry is hosted by me the 1376 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 2: One and Only Jerry Clark. 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