Speaker 1: What's up. It's lip service. I'm Angela Yee.
Speaker 2: I'm Gg maguire, I'm Jordi Banuel and.
Speaker 1: YadA, YadA, YadA. Oh my gosh. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us today, YadA. I know you
Speaker 1: flew in just to do lip service with us, and
Speaker 1: we've seen you go viral quite a few times on
Speaker 1: social media, and you have a very interesting story. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that we want to clear up.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of advice that we want to hear
Speaker 1: from you, you know. So first of all, good to
Speaker 1: see you. How was BT Awards? How was Essence?
Speaker 3: Have been non stop playing trains automobiles, crazy, like I
Speaker 3: don't even know how I'm surviving. Essence was Let's start Essence,
Speaker 3: because that's like from last night. I literally just got
Speaker 3: on a plane from New Orleans at six am, landed
Speaker 3: and Atlanta eight am, and then was back on another
Speaker 3: plane to here in New York at two pm.
Speaker 4: So I'm like moving, moving, moving.
Speaker 3: Essence was amazing, and so as many times as I've been,
Speaker 3: this was my first time actually working, so I was
Speaker 3: pressed on behalf of the show, and I did the
Speaker 3: convention Center, I did the concerts. I did the after
Speaker 3: parties the field more saw a lot of familiar faces
Speaker 3: and got it shown a.
Speaker 4: Lot of love and I heard it. Love you hear me.
Speaker 3: I love New Orleans just in general, Like I've drive
Speaker 3: to New Orleans from Atlanta just to eat, so you know,
Speaker 3: just like all of the energy and just you know,
Speaker 3: all of the love that was shown.
Speaker 4: It was a really really really.
Speaker 1: Good time, well deserved. Thank you for working. Okay, by
Speaker 1: the way, foot it on the way.
Speaker 3: And then prior to that, I did, uh well, I
Speaker 3: was in l A for BT Weekend on behalf of
Speaker 3: Tailorport and I did my first official event with them, Okay,
Speaker 3: so that.
Speaker 1: Was pretty cool.
Speaker 4: I also did some tail Report stuff in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: So we're shaking and moving and moving and shaking and
Speaker 4: you love things.
Speaker 1: Happening, and we're going to talk about positivity. But Jordan,
Speaker 1: what about you these past few weeks last time, last
Speaker 1: time you were here, we didn't even know that. But
Speaker 1: the summer House, Martha's Vineyard is no longer.
Speaker 2: It's paused. It's paused. I'm still living my life though.
Speaker 2: I went to France South my friend and I was Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I was on planes, boats and automobile.
Speaker 4: Boats.
Speaker 2: And then I came back went to d C for
Speaker 2: the National Alopecia Foundation organization, so that was really great.
Speaker 2: And then I came back to the Hamptons did an
Speaker 2: event for c DJ's Yes the event, then came back
Speaker 2: and it's just been NonStop too.
Speaker 1: So I also am losing my voice and the look.
Speaker 1: And now we have Yat here. And you know, I
Speaker 1: know you talk a lot about like positivity, manifesting the
Speaker 1: things that you want in life, and how your life
Speaker 1: can change when you put some positivity out there. So
Speaker 1: let's talk about you and your background. For people who
Speaker 1: are listening, they've seen you on social media, they've seen
Speaker 1: some viral clips, and let's talk about who Yat it is.
Speaker 1: Because you've had a really I would say that your
Speaker 1: background has prepared you for where you are today. And
Speaker 1: sometimes it's easier to listen to somebody when they've been
Speaker 1: through when they've been through it and come out on
Speaker 1: the other side, you know, So let's talk about kind
Speaker 1: of where you got started. Because your life was not
Speaker 1: always easy.
Speaker 5: No I wasn't no, no, no no no. I was
Speaker 5: raised by a beautiful, beautiful woman, single parent that busted
Speaker 5: her butt to make sure her children were good. We
Speaker 5: were some bad boys. We were horrible.
Speaker 1: How many boys?
Speaker 5: Was it two?
Speaker 1: Just two of you? Okay? Too terrible?
Speaker 5: No, definitely terrible.
Speaker 4: Are the older or the younger?
Speaker 5: I'm the middle, I'm in the middle, so it's two. I
Speaker 5: have two brothers, I'm the middle one, so it's three
Speaker 5: of us.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was raised in California, moved around. My mother, remarried
Speaker 5: to a military guy, and that that was what it was.
Speaker 5: And then I started traveling, got into medicine, and then
Speaker 5: I went to Africa, opened up a hospital.
Speaker 1: What part of Africa?
Speaker 5: Senegal? West Africa? Okay, wow, it opened up an Africa,
Speaker 5: got I mean, opened up a hospital, got into trucking,
Speaker 5: and it's just been Murdercery wrote.
Speaker 1: I don't know how somebody just it's like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to just go to West Africa and open up, Like,
Speaker 1: how does that even happen?
Speaker 5: But I went there for fun. I went I went
Speaker 5: there for fun, and then I seen a lot of
Speaker 5: opportunities to make some money.
Speaker 4: So you took advantage of that.
Speaker 3: Of course, got yourself an empire, got yourself a wife
Speaker 3: over there, and I got a wife because.
Speaker 1: Some of those viral clips, you know, just to examine
Speaker 1: that a little something something, you know, the fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty versus the man taking care of the bills, not
Speaker 1: just taking care of it, but paying your wife two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. That was something
Speaker 1: that went viral and was very controversial. And I saw
Speaker 1: the conversations that you've had surrounding that, and it feels
Speaker 1: like when I see a lot of these podcasts, a
Speaker 1: lot of men don't like the fact that, you know,
Speaker 1: women have it. Some women have an issue with going
Speaker 1: for like the man should be able to hold it down,
Speaker 1: take care of the household. Before we talk about it.
Speaker 1: What do you think about fifty to fifty versus the
Speaker 1: man handling the bills?
Speaker 3: I personally think that it should be based on your
Speaker 3: personal situation, financial situation. You know, there's levels to life,
Speaker 3: and if you are on a level where you're grinding
Speaker 3: and you're figuring it out and we're better and stronger
Speaker 3: in numbers, then yeah, let's hold each other down until
Speaker 3: we get to where we need to be. Would you
Speaker 3: be okay with being the main provider me personally at
Speaker 3: the stake that I'm in right now. No, absolutely, it's
Speaker 3: like yeah, no, I'm holding it down for myself.
Speaker 2: It's more than me. Like, I know, I work hard,
Speaker 2: I can take care of myself. God forbid anything happen.
Speaker 2: But you need to be working harder than me. Okay,
Speaker 2: working harder than you, working harder than me, and playing
Speaker 2: harder and making more.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right now, talk to us about your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 5: My thoughts is if a man has to if a
Speaker 5: man gets into a relation with a woman, he should
Speaker 5: prepare her every need. Now, if I'm grind, I don't
Speaker 5: need a woman. I should be focused on taking care
Speaker 5: of myself. And when I get to that level, now
Speaker 5: I can bring you into my world because you can't
Speaker 5: respect me if you're taking care of me. You can't
Speaker 5: respect me if you're going half on my bills. And
Speaker 5: this is what happened. A lot of men don't date
Speaker 5: to bring a woman into the world to uplift them.
Speaker 5: They're dating for a financial assistance. And this is why
Speaker 5: men want to go fifty fifty, because they need a
Speaker 5: woman to help them take care of them.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, how do you know a
Speaker 1: woman doesn't want you just for your money or for.
Speaker 5: Your I want a woman to woman for my money.
Speaker 5: I'm a provider, want me to provide. Why are you
Speaker 5: choosing me? You want an alpha man? I'm sure you're
Speaker 5: an alpha man. I'm here to take care of your
Speaker 5: every needs. And that's not just financially, that's mentally, that's emotionally,
Speaker 5: that's spiritually because I'm here to lead in every aspect
Speaker 5: of my life because I know what you're gonna bring
Speaker 5: to me. When I put you in an environment of peace,
Speaker 5: when I put you in an environment when you feel secure,
Speaker 5: you're going to elevate. And when a woman elevates, good
Speaker 5: women are going to elevate the men right next to them.
Speaker 5: So you become my diamond in a rough How do you.
Speaker 1: Know who's a good woman and who's not?
Speaker 5: Though I don't worry about that. I'm a good man.
Speaker 5: I don't care if you're if you're tarnished, I'm going
Speaker 5: to perfect you. If I'm a good man, this is
Speaker 5: going to happen.
Speaker 1: I love this like he's like, I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: I need this recorded. I need to pray with ladies. Right.
Speaker 1: But so this is an interesting conversation because I saw
Speaker 1: a lot of people pushing back on this, and even
Speaker 1: for myself, like I know that I always do tend
Speaker 1: to bring a lot to the table, like I'm used
Speaker 1: to handling things for myself, Like I own, you know,
Speaker 1: my home and other homes, and I make a pretty
Speaker 1: good salary of what I do. And so for me,
Speaker 1: money a man like providing for me has never been
Speaker 1: my top priority as far as financial status. So I've
Speaker 1: never been like, I need somebody to like pay for
Speaker 1: all my stuff. I need this, or I'm not okay
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 3: So I want to chime in and say that I
Speaker 3: had that relationship where a man took care of my
Speaker 3: every need and I was put up and didn't have
Speaker 3: to worry about anything, you know, financially or anything like that.
Speaker 3: The thorn in my side in that situation was that
Speaker 3: I had given up so much control of myself that
Speaker 3: when he snatched everything from me, I was left rebuilding myself.
Speaker 5: She that's the problem, and that's why I pay my
Speaker 5: woman two hundred and fifty thousand a year. So if
Speaker 5: anything happened she feels disrespected, I've done something out of
Speaker 5: the character that she didn't improve of. She has a
Speaker 5: safety net, and that two hundred and fifty thousand doesn't
Speaker 5: go to nothing but her in a bank account that
Speaker 5: I have no access to. Real men want to see
Speaker 5: you succeed. Now you have been with money. I want
Speaker 5: to control you.
Speaker 1: So you believe in keeping your assets like having she
Speaker 1: has a bank account that you have no access to,
Speaker 1: does that mean you have that as well?
Speaker 5: No, my money is her money and her money is
Speaker 5: her money. My money is her money, and her money
Speaker 5: is her money. She has access to all my bank account.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, situation wasn't like that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: When we broke up, there was like a severance package
Speaker 3: for me to restart.
Speaker 4: They helped me out there.
Speaker 3: Okay, but but yeah, it would be like whenever we
Speaker 3: would go through it and you know, he was feeling
Speaker 3: like he wanted to take that MX balance to zero.
Speaker 3: I would go swipe that card and it would get
Speaker 3: the client. So you know, it was like he held
Speaker 3: the money over my head and that became a because.
Speaker 5: That's men that only know how to lead with money.
Speaker 5: If a man can lead you in every aspect of
Speaker 5: your life, he's not going to pull money in and
Speaker 5: pull money out. You're not playing double dutch with the money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's be honest though, things do happen in life,
Speaker 1: like one of the main reasons that people end up
Speaker 1: going bankrupt could be bad investments, but also medical things
Speaker 1: can happen, so there are emergencies in life that do
Speaker 1: go down. So you know, in a situation like that,
Speaker 1: let's just say something unexpected happens, and you know things
Speaker 1: people would be like, oh, I didn't have insurance. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize I needed this. Some things aren't covered by insurance.
Speaker 1: And at that point, now, when something is an emergency,
Speaker 1: then you know.
Speaker 5: Proper preparation prevents poor performance. I'm properly prepared. I'm a man.
Speaker 5: I have to prepare for that rainy day. Any like
Speaker 5: you said, anything can happen. That's where that ten million
Speaker 5: is tucked over there for a rainy day.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, ten million tucked for a rainy day.
Speaker 1: I like the way that sounds right now. There's also
Speaker 1: people who doubt you right on social media, of course,
Speaker 1: because I've seen that, like he's a scammer, he's this,
Speaker 1: he's that, we don't believe him, he doesn't really pay
Speaker 1: her that look at Gesie's face.
Speaker 3: Because I hate the Internet and period with their opinions
Speaker 3: and they're always like projecting their their shit onto what
Speaker 3: they see in other people. And you know, that just
Speaker 3: becomes a problem for me. Just I try, like not
Speaker 3: even to really let it be a problem, but it's
Speaker 3: just like y'all so ignorant.
Speaker 1: Well, how do you how do you mage that.
Speaker 5: My woman's glow? My woman glows with understand a woman
Speaker 5: can't fake a glow, a woman can't fake happiness. When
Speaker 5: a woman's happy, you can tell from her eyes, to
Speaker 5: her skin, to everything. My woman is my crown all
Speaker 5: that it would show her.
Speaker 1: Now you also have two wives, right is that?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: So one wife is here in America the other one
Speaker 1: is in West Africa. Yes, yes, yes, okay, so both
Speaker 1: of them are glowing.
Speaker 5: Of course. Now now I have to I have to,
Speaker 5: I have to put this out there because a lot
Speaker 5: of men believe that, you know, they good women for
Speaker 5: sexual things. It's it's not that mine is based completely
Speaker 5: on business. My woman in West Africa, she runs a
Speaker 5: whole trucking company. She lives in a mansion. She's properly
Speaker 5: taken care of, and I also support her whole family.
Speaker 5: My wife here runs the company here, they're bosses. She
Speaker 5: runs the company, she's in charge of the company. Here,
Speaker 5: I take care of her whole family. I make things happen.
Speaker 5: So it's not me. Oh, I'm just a sexually craved
Speaker 5: man and I'm just going out here going crazy. Now.
Speaker 5: I take care of my face.
Speaker 3: But you do.
Speaker 1: You are sexually attracted to both women.
Speaker 5: There, beautiful women. Beautiful women.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and I've seen them one. I just want
Speaker 1: to double check that because when you say it's business,
Speaker 1: of course, I'm just making sure that that's part of
Speaker 1: the equation too.
Speaker 5: Of course I have I have beautiful women, but it's
Speaker 5: not the base of it. Like, I didn't choose them
Speaker 5: for sex. I'm a businessman. I chose for business, and
Speaker 5: that's why they know if anything ever happens, they have
Speaker 5: a cushion where they can be properly taken care of.
Speaker 4: All Right, how do you split up the time?
Speaker 2: I want to just jump into the teeth, like, how
Speaker 2: do you in the six months take that salary?
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, so so I'm over here half of
Speaker 5: the year. I'm over here half of the year. But
Speaker 5: the beautiful part about it is that my first wife
Speaker 5: chose the second wife. So it wasn't me saying I
Speaker 5: want you. She was like, nah, she cool and she's intelligent,
Speaker 5: like she just graduated from college. She was like, oh,
Speaker 5: she's it. So I said, come on, let me let
Speaker 5: me see and she she shining. They both shining, but
Speaker 5: she's shining.
Speaker 1: So they hang out with each other and everybody.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's real, like sister situation.
Speaker 5: It's their sisters. They'll be cool even if I wasn't
Speaker 5: even in the picture. You know.
Speaker 2: But when y'all are all in the same house, do
Speaker 2: you all sleep in.
Speaker 5: The same No, no, no, I'm not. No, no, they
Speaker 5: have they have different bedrooms. Oh okay, they have different bedrooms,
Speaker 5: you know. And when they feel like they need my presence,
Speaker 5: they bless me. I don't bless them.
Speaker 1: And are you loyal to both of them or are
Speaker 1: you still able to say step outside? Would you look
Speaker 1: for a third wife?
Speaker 5: No, I have, I have two o's. I'm committed to
Speaker 5: two women. That does mean I flirt with women or
Speaker 5: I try to pull other women into the scenario. No,
Speaker 5: my women. If they say we need somebody else because
Speaker 5: the company's expanding, they choose.
Speaker 1: I don't choose, and that's for business purposes. The company's expanding,
Speaker 1: So you couldn't be with the women who was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in this business.
Speaker 5: Now. If a woman comes and says, look, I just
Speaker 5: want to take care of the children. I just want
Speaker 5: to be a babysitter to their children. Okay. Cool. If
Speaker 5: the women agreed upon that, they add on. I don't
Speaker 5: add on.
Speaker 1: Okay. So how many children do you have?
Speaker 5: I have five beautiful children, and.
Speaker 1: So okay, and some of them living, Like, tell me
Speaker 1: the breakdown of it, which one is living?
Speaker 5: So my wife, my wife, and Africa just had a daughter,
Speaker 5: and then my wife he had just had a son.
Speaker 5: But they're all our children.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, wow, this is I love this.
Speaker 3: So before I was born, my mother with my three
Speaker 3: older sisters, with their father. My mother lived in a
Speaker 3: house with their three children and his other woman and
Speaker 3: her children. And like, I wasn't here yet, so I
Speaker 3: wasn't a part of it, but I heard a lot
Speaker 3: of stories about.
Speaker 4: It through like through my family.
Speaker 3: Me and my mother never talked about it, and she's
Speaker 3: no longer here, so I can't get any input on it.
Speaker 3: But I always found it interesting that they were able
Speaker 3: to coin habitat. And then moving forward, when I did
Speaker 3: come into the world, my father was married to, of course,
Speaker 3: not my mother, So I was a side baby essentially,
Speaker 3: and my mother and his wife got along very well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like even up until my mother passed away. Him, her
Speaker 3: and my father's wife, they were cool. They were very close.
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of men are doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 5: They're just secretive about it. Yes, the women don't know
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 4: That part.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're saying a lot of men are having
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, they're not doing scale that he's
Speaker 1: doing it all, but they are having lives and wives
Speaker 1: in separate areas and holding it all down.
Speaker 4: Definitely, the women just don't know about it.
Speaker 1: You think that women would be if they knew.
Speaker 5: In this era, with the low quality of men, women
Speaker 5: are saying, yes.
Speaker 1: He said it, I didn't say that.
Speaker 5: With the low quality of men, women are saying.
Speaker 1: Us, What about if it was the other way around.
Speaker 1: Let's just say it was a woman and she had
Speaker 1: a husband.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that happens, there's a TV show.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't think women. You guys are different like women.
Speaker 5: Your loyalty is different, your love is different, Like you're
Speaker 5: superior when it comes to that. Besides of men. Men
Speaker 5: are not like that. We're not built like you. Guys
Speaker 5: are built. When you love, you love with all of you.
Speaker 5: When a woman is happy, she doesn't see another man.
Speaker 1: So but you're saying that men can be happy but
Speaker 1: see other women.
Speaker 5: We can't. We can't, we can't do that. What I'm
Speaker 5: what I'm saying is when when a woman, when a
Speaker 5: woman is truly in love completely, you love with all
Speaker 5: of you, mind, body and soul. So if a man
Speaker 5: walked in here, regardless of how handsome he was, how
Speaker 5: much money he had, you don't see him. All you
Speaker 5: see is the man you're in love with. Men, we
Speaker 5: can be in love with you, love everything about you,
Speaker 5: and still see women when they walk into.
Speaker 4: The room and do.
Speaker 1: I don't know that every man is like that. I
Speaker 1: would not all like to believe.
Speaker 4: But there's a lot.
Speaker 2: I think it becomes a decision like they they're more
Speaker 2: actively choosing to act upon that or not, whereas we
Speaker 2: naturally choose. It's it's embedded in us. I think that too,
Speaker 2: Like when I'm invested in a person in a relationship,
Speaker 2: I'm turned off by other men, whereas men they actively
Speaker 2: have to say ooh, I'm thinking about Julie or whoever,
Speaker 2: whoever it is.
Speaker 1: You got to calm it down.
Speaker 2: It's like, nope, I'm actively turning around rather than naturally saying, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm not even looking at her like they're always looking here.
Speaker 1: Because yeah, if a woman walked in here and was
Speaker 1: like amazing, you would be saying to yourself, I'm loyal
Speaker 1: to my two wives. I don't see that.
Speaker 5: No, when women walking up, put my head down. I
Speaker 5: respect for my women. See, but I still know there's
Speaker 5: beautiful women we can I think we.
Speaker 1: Can acknowledge a man is handsome and a good catch.
Speaker 1: You know what, we do refer him to a friend.
Speaker 1: If we love our friends, we'll be like, girl, I'm
Speaker 1: met a guy that would be great for you, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's what.
Speaker 5: That's a little different. But oh man, just walking in
Speaker 5: you just seeing him like.
Speaker 4: H But sometimes yes, sometimes yeah, sometimes.
Speaker 1: Women do that. You may not know it, but women will. Definitely.
Speaker 1: I've definitely had women like text me while we're somewhere
Speaker 1: and be like, girl, he is fine. Like I've definitely
Speaker 1: had women do that. So I think we do see you.
Speaker 5: Know, well, my question to you is what makes a
Speaker 5: man fine?
Speaker 1: I think it's well if it's something you're attracted to do,
Speaker 1: because I also think that as women, like women can
Speaker 1: be universally beautiful. I think for women, we're attracted to
Speaker 1: different kinds of men. Yes, like we might have a type.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I don't like guys who are like really
Speaker 1: you know, big and buff. I've never really liked that.
Speaker 1: So if somebody came in here like that, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be my thing. But Gigi might like that, But Jordan
Speaker 1: might like that, and this is her thing, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I just think it's a matter
Speaker 1: of what your type is like. And then I think
Speaker 1: that sometimes it's just like this attraction that you'll have
Speaker 1: to somebody that you can't explain.
Speaker 5: Well, listen, but this is why women are failing. This
Speaker 5: is why you guys are getting your heart's broken because
Speaker 5: you have a type and the type is the wrong type.
Speaker 5: If you're building off how tall he is, how big
Speaker 5: his muscles are, you're going to hurt yourself every time.
Speaker 1: But that's just a physical attraction. That doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: want to but you agree. I think that you can
Speaker 1: see somebody and be like that person's attractive, but that
Speaker 1: but then they can do something that makes them unattracted.
Speaker 1: But if you're just talking about a physical aspect of
Speaker 1: what you like, that doesn't mean I want to be
Speaker 1: with you. That just could be like, oh that's the
Speaker 1: type of yeah, and you a lot of times don't
Speaker 1: end up with the person that looks like somebody that
Speaker 1: you would like. Some people like I know women who
Speaker 1: are like I like big guys, like chubby guys, and
Speaker 1: that's just what their type is. That doesn't mean that's
Speaker 1: who they'll be with, definitely, And there's people that are
Speaker 1: handsome that you're like, he talked and I can't stand
Speaker 1: him now, Like, yeah, so I think that you know,
Speaker 1: it can vary, but I feel like men are a
Speaker 1: lot more physical, Like that's why you guys can immaturement.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, immaturement because if man's just looking at the
Speaker 5: body and that say, he ain't going too far.
Speaker 1: But look, both of your wives are beautiful, and if
Speaker 1: they were not attractive, I was.
Speaker 5: Blessed with that though, But I didn't marry him for looks.
Speaker 1: You didn't. But you know, there's like, I think attraction
Speaker 1: is a real thing. If it was somebody that was
Speaker 1: completely like horrible looking, Yeah, you may not be like
Speaker 1: I'm marrying her because I'm attracted to her, you know,
Speaker 1: mind and her business. I think it all has to
Speaker 1: come together full package.
Speaker 5: Nah, but not with me, because marriage is business to me,
Speaker 5: Like marriage is business. So this woman can walk and
Speaker 5: have four hundred pounds, but she knows how to run
Speaker 5: oil company. She's fluent in Arabic. You know, she's fluent
Speaker 5: in Mandarin like that. Yeah, come on, we can work
Speaker 5: that weight up off you.
Speaker 1: You can accept it for how she is too. But
Speaker 1: health is important to you too. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: your journey when it comes to not just physical health,
Speaker 1: mental health as well. So let's talk about where you
Speaker 1: were and where you are now.
Speaker 5: Right. I was in a very dark place, you know.
Speaker 5: I grew up with not really being loved, so I
Speaker 5: had to teach myself how to love and accept love.
Speaker 5: You know, it was a very hard struggle to mix up.
Speaker 5: In my home. I never heard the words I love
Speaker 5: you like I have never heard my mom say I
Speaker 5: love you, or I'm proud of you, or you're doing
Speaker 5: a great job. And the only people ever heard say
Speaker 5: they loved me was the dudes in the streets. My
Speaker 5: brother's in the streets. I never heard no one else
Speaker 5: say it. So, you know, I how to teach myself
Speaker 5: how to love a woman, how to teach myself, how
Speaker 5: to be patient with a woman, how to teach myself
Speaker 5: how to be understanding. And then I how to teach
Speaker 5: myself when a woman tells me she loves me, to
Speaker 5: believe it rather than I she's trying to run a
Speaker 5: game on me, or you know that. So I was
Speaker 5: in a very dark place because I didn't never know
Speaker 5: how to love myself. Because my mother, she's my first teacher, right,
Speaker 5: she didn't teach me how to love.
Speaker 1: Myself, but she probably felt like she was showing you
Speaker 1: because she was doing everything to make sure there was
Speaker 1: food on the table.
Speaker 5: Of course, you know my mother's my mother's love language
Speaker 5: was providing. You know, I'm gonna make sure you got
Speaker 5: clothes on your back, of haircut, shoes on your feet,
Speaker 5: that a roof over your head. That that was her
Speaker 5: love language. But or a child, we don't know about providing.
Speaker 5: We don't know about the roof over your head. I
Speaker 5: just want to be love and hugged, you know, And
Speaker 5: I didn't get that. So I grew up in a
Speaker 5: very very dark place, you know, to the point I
Speaker 5: got sick, I got overweighted. You know, I had diabetes, cancer,
Speaker 5: I was going through it like I was going through it.
Speaker 1: And so then you also are into the wellness space.
Speaker 1: So I want to discuss how you managed to pull
Speaker 1: through it, like you said, because you were diabetic, overweights,
Speaker 1: dealing with depression, all of those things. So what pulled
Speaker 1: you out of that and what did you discover about nutrition?
Speaker 5: I went, so I traveled to Ecuador, this village in Ecuador,
Speaker 5: and this guy, he's from Spain, and he took me
Speaker 5: to the Amazon jungles and these guys are all into
Speaker 5: all natural stuff. I'm looking at people fifties, sixty seventy,
Speaker 5: looking like they're nineteen twenty twenty two, and they talking
Speaker 5: about we don't get sick. You didn't mean you don't
Speaker 5: get sick. No, everybody gets sick. I thought sickness was normal.
Speaker 5: I thought we're supposed to get sick. Then they say, no,
Speaker 5: the food that you guys eat is causing your sickness.
Speaker 5: I said, nah, man, They said, stop this, do this,
Speaker 5: stop this, do this, fast fast what's fasting? Don't eat
Speaker 5: no food? Don't eat no food. What you want me
Speaker 5: to do just drink.
Speaker 1: Water, drink water, nice butter fast.
Speaker 5: My whole life, my whole, my whole life changed everything
Speaker 5: and went away. They started giving me herbs and telling
Speaker 5: me about herbs, and I'm going back and forth in
Speaker 5: an Amazon. Now I'm sponsoring them because they don't have
Speaker 5: no electricity, so I'm buying the cords for electricity. And
Speaker 5: they're just teaching me every single thing on how to
Speaker 5: heal different diseases. And I thought it was crazy because
Speaker 5: we know we come over here, we know medicine, medicine,
Speaker 5: medicine over there's like plants, plants, plants.
Speaker 1: You know, for me, I definitely because I don want
Speaker 1: to juice bar too, and I've done water fast before too.
Speaker 1: And I also know about how like fasting like that
Speaker 1: can help rebuild your organs give you more strength. Things
Speaker 1: I don't eat at all, Like I don't eat any
Speaker 1: cold cuts. I try not to eat like I don't
Speaker 1: eat like processed, processed foods.
Speaker 4: And if you can just.
Speaker 1: Do like fruits and vegetables and fruits and all of that. Now,
Speaker 1: of course I don't eat perfect at all, having a
Speaker 1: drink right now, but I just try to make sure
Speaker 1: I do things in moderation when I want to do it,
Speaker 1: you know, Jordan, like.
Speaker 2: I've been you know, I've done fast, I've done water fast,
Speaker 2: I've done cleanses. It's hard for me, especially I DJ
Speaker 2: so I'm outside outside, and it's hard to fight the
Speaker 2: temptation of a little beverage, a little champagne. Little so
Speaker 2: do something every now and then, and then you want
Speaker 2: a late night snack. Usually it's a baked potato for me.
Speaker 2: So it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's a process get there.
Speaker 3: It's a process, it is, but once you really get
Speaker 3: in the groove of it, it becomes easier for me personally.
Speaker 3: This week, I'm celebrating three years since I've been drunk.
Speaker 3: I have had alcohol. I will have a glass of
Speaker 3: red one, but I'm like ninety percent of alcohol free
Speaker 3: for these entire three years. And in the beginning during
Speaker 3: this time, I was still bartending, so I'm behind the
Speaker 3: bar and people are offering me drinks, and I really
Speaker 3: stood firm on no alcohol at all for a whole
Speaker 3: two years. As far as food is concerned, my mother
Speaker 3: was also a erbalist, so I was raised on we
Speaker 3: did not have fast food. I didn't have fast food
Speaker 3: until I was old enough to get it myself. We
Speaker 3: are candy was dried fruits and chocolate covered raisins and
Speaker 3: yoga covered pretzels, and we ate a lot of trail
Speaker 3: mix and everything was always fresh, never frozen.
Speaker 4: She cooked every meal.
Speaker 3: I can only remember going to a restaurant in my
Speaker 3: childhood one time in my fourth grade, my graduation from
Speaker 3: private school, we went to TGI Fridays. That's the only
Speaker 3: experience I have that I can remember as a child
Speaker 3: being in the restaurants.
Speaker 1: Why you spe all the time?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm the same way. I cook a lot.
Speaker 3: It's been almost twenty years since I've had since I've
Speaker 3: eaten fast food on a regular basis.
Speaker 4: I did have the Popa's Chickens, which because I decided.
Speaker 1: That marketing was amazing. I had to see why they're
Speaker 1: killing people over this sandwich.
Speaker 3: I did have the but I will not, and I
Speaker 3: get asked so when I tell people that I don't
Speaker 3: eat fast food, and since I travel so much, I
Speaker 3: always get asked, well, what do you do in the clutch?
Speaker 3: What do you do when you're traveling and there's nothing
Speaker 3: else around? And I'm like, I go to my favorite
Speaker 3: gas station snacks, which is trail mixed cheese, which I
Speaker 3: know cheese ain't all that great, but trail mixed cheese,
Speaker 3: you know, I go with like peanut butter crackers and
Speaker 3: like things like that just to give me something to
Speaker 3: have on my stomach until I can get to a
Speaker 3: healthy meal of solid or you know, whatever I can have.
Speaker 3: So and I do see the difference at myself. You know,
Speaker 3: I just turned forty five and I sit next to
Speaker 3: my twenty seven year old daughter, and people don't believe
Speaker 3: that we are mother and daughter. And that's because you know,
Speaker 3: I still maintain my youthfulness and I'm active.
Speaker 4: I walk a lot.
Speaker 3: I don't really work out, but I used to dance,
Speaker 3: so I kind of have all of that built up
Speaker 3: in And yeah, like health is wealth, and I just
Speaker 3: really wish that more people would understand that the food
Speaker 3: is killing us. You know, they put all these preservatives
Speaker 3: and all of this process, you know, stuff in our
Speaker 3: food that's making a sick. So in return, we can
Speaker 3: go to these doctors.
Speaker 1: They causes cancer but still advertise.
Speaker 4: It and gives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's insane the way that in the United States.
Speaker 3: And I travel a lot abroad, so when you go
Speaker 3: to other countries in these smaller islands, and everything is fresh,
Speaker 3: and you can see and taste and feel the difference when.
Speaker 4: You spend time in other places and eat their food.
Speaker 3: I just wish that America would really do the right
Speaker 3: thing and more people would be open to learning how
Speaker 3: to take care of business themselves, really with food and
Speaker 3: fruits and vegetables, because herbs really are medicine.
Speaker 4: Of course, you know what I was raised doing.
Speaker 3: My mother gave us for everything, Golden seal, golden seal.
Speaker 3: My mother gave I talk about you got a headache,
Speaker 3: drink some gold.
Speaker 1: And you sing. Drinks some gold. I put a little
Speaker 1: ginger in it. Ginger, some fresh ginger and humberic.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: And during COVID, a lot of people did get on
Speaker 3: the wave of being healthier and building the immune system
Speaker 3: and the sea moss and all of that. So that
Speaker 3: did kind of help people kind of awaken themselves to
Speaker 3: being a little bit more healthy. But they can't shake
Speaker 3: them shake check shakeles seconds. They can't get out that
Speaker 3: Chick fil a line, you know, And it's because of
Speaker 3: all of theats and the stuff that.
Speaker 1: They pumping into it.
Speaker 5: They to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, aside from this. Before you got here, we
Speaker 1: were talking to Jordan about you. Are you ready to
Speaker 1: settle down? Jordan Like, no, I know, that's right, Jordan.
Speaker 2: I would like to do a year. I would celibate
Speaker 2: for two years. Okay, So I'm coming out of my celibacy.
Speaker 2: I kind of want to have a phase where I
Speaker 2: have three hose. Yeah, just to like live that life
Speaker 2: for a little bit, like a boster, just because I've
Speaker 2: never done that.
Speaker 1: But I would say coming out of your celibacy? Are
Speaker 1: you out of it already? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but you know then I got ghosted, so
Speaker 2: that's a whole other story. But I'm like, you know
Speaker 2: what I want to have like a little Tuesday, a
Speaker 2: little Wednesday, little Saturday.
Speaker 1: Right, So what do you think about that?
Speaker 5: I say, data mall and.
Speaker 2: And so what do I do? Like, I don't even
Speaker 2: know where to I don't know where to find them,
Speaker 2: b I don't know what to say. I'm so out
Speaker 2: of the game.
Speaker 1: It's so hard to tell if somebody has money to
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 5: You know what, you know what, I'll tell you, data mall,
Speaker 5: but keep your vaginanty yourself.
Speaker 1: Okay that's not what she wants.
Speaker 5: Yes, date them all? But keep your vaginity yourself because
Speaker 5: the one that's playing with you, he's not going to
Speaker 5: he's not going to last. He's going to show because
Speaker 5: he's going to move you on to the next one. Okay,
Speaker 5: because you're pretty, So a lot of men try to
Speaker 5: get you to sleep with you.
Speaker 2: So how long do I have to do that before
Speaker 2: I can actually get you?
Speaker 4: Know, just because clearly she wants some physical attention?
Speaker 1: Now, what if okay, so what if you would be like,
Speaker 1: you want to sleep with me fifty thousand dollars facts,
Speaker 1: because that's that's advice you would give right.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: Conversation, that conversation looks like I need.
Speaker 5: And it's funny. It's funny now because I told my
Speaker 5: sisters this. If if a dude wants a day to
Speaker 5: fifty thousand, fifty thousands like cash or no, if they
Speaker 5: can't afford a payment plan fifty thousand okay, okay, and
Speaker 5: if they don't have your dating in a wrong pool.
Speaker 2: So let's run a scenario, right, let's get it. Let's
Speaker 2: say I'm at a bar, a man approaches me and
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, I'd like to take you out
Speaker 2: to dinner.
Speaker 1: What am I?
Speaker 2: I'm just like, okay, that's fifty thousand, of course, just
Speaker 2: just like this is going to work.
Speaker 5: Listen, listen, listen, listen. In America, women been programmed a
Speaker 5: certain way. In these other countries, it's the norm. Okay,
Speaker 5: it's normal here, and then it's crazy because you have
Speaker 5: men that's willing to take care of you all.
Speaker 1: So you got to go to like Sweden or where
Speaker 1: am I going?
Speaker 4: You got to go to.
Speaker 1: But I feel like men are terrified of being used. Also,
Speaker 1: you know who's terrified of being used?
Speaker 4: The ones that ain't got it?
Speaker 5: There we go. But I listen, a man can go
Speaker 5: to a strip club and blow ten to twenty thousand
Speaker 5: in a few hours, and you about to sleep with them,
Speaker 5: cook for them, iron his clothes, maybe clean his house.
Speaker 5: That's not worthy of you getting paid.
Speaker 1: But most cause I know, aren't going to spend ten
Speaker 1: and twenty thousand dollars in the strip club. And if
Speaker 1: he is, I don't know that I want to be
Speaker 1: with somebody because I would be like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: I know, gg, I mean, I've been there nice and
Speaker 1: that's happening. I've been there and it happens. But like
Speaker 1: if I'm dating a guy and he spends twenty thousand
Speaker 1: in the strip club. I'm I don't think I want
Speaker 1: that either, Like I feel like that's not financed five thousand. Okay, sorry, gg,
Speaker 1: I'm just being I mean, it's I.
Speaker 3: Mean, I listen years moved from the game, so you know,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Want to hate on the strippers and hit on y'all game,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that I feel like, for me,
Speaker 1: that's not like fiscally responsible.
Speaker 5: That's like, but what is my thing is? What's your value?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 5: What is your value? A heartache and some dingling, like
Speaker 5: what's the no?
Speaker 2: I think I have a hard time because I feel
Speaker 2: like my standards are almost too high. I don't I
Speaker 2: just don't know where to find them. That's my thing,
Speaker 2: Like where are they at? Okay, I can activate all this.
Speaker 2: I just need to be in the right place where
Speaker 2: where you.
Speaker 5: Are you need to go. You need to go with
Speaker 5: a grown man, the grown The grown men are playing
Speaker 5: in places that these average men don't be.
Speaker 2: At the hotel.
Speaker 5: Bar where men with money are. They're not in places
Speaker 5: where the average guy is at now now prefixed, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: now now you need to travel? Got a passport? Yes,
Speaker 5: So we got, we got so so we got we
Speaker 5: gotta find.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on?
Speaker 1: Is the place to be?
Speaker 4: No one?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 5: Listen, listen you, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 5: you some things, right, and this is between us right right,
Speaker 5: this is just room right just in this room, right
Speaker 5: in these cameras. Right. If you truly want a man
Speaker 5: to provide your every need, and I'm not just talking
Speaker 5: about financially, more mentally, physically, spiritually, love everything that comes
Speaker 5: with you, you have to know your value because a man
Speaker 5: will treat you as you come. So if you're saying, oh,
Speaker 5: I don't have to do nothing for you, and I can,
Speaker 5: I can knock you down every night, That's exactly what
Speaker 5: I'm going to do. And then I'm gonna get the
Speaker 5: chick that's playing hard to get, that's giving me a
Speaker 5: hard time and expecting all this. I'm wife and her,
Speaker 5: but I'm just knocking you down. I'm having fun with you.
Speaker 5: So if you really want a man to really change
Speaker 5: your world, you have to know what you deserve and
Speaker 5: don't settle for nothing else.
Speaker 1: Word something say if you say fifty thousand, and that's
Speaker 1: like prostitution. You know, I'm telling you are going to say.
Speaker 5: But but listen to it. A man will get you,
Speaker 5: will have sex with you. Sometimes the sex is horrible.
Speaker 5: We're mentally abusive. We don't know how to take care
Speaker 5: of you emotionally. We have no spiritual connection, so we
Speaker 5: can't elevate you most of the time. It is stupid,
Speaker 5: so we can't feed your brain. What are you worth?
Speaker 5: And you just gave me six months of your life,
Speaker 5: a year of your life, three years of your life.
Speaker 5: You can't even get that back, and all you got
Speaker 5: what is heartache?
Speaker 1: Wait? Did you used to be that guy? Hmm? Before
Speaker 1: you know? You can here again?
Speaker 4: Finger to my own life. I'm not that guy no more.
Speaker 1: Because the journey is important to me. Like we said,
Speaker 1: we talked about everything you went through physically to get
Speaker 1: yourself to where you are now. But let's talk about
Speaker 1: this sexually wise and being in a relationship wise. Did
Speaker 1: you used to be that guy that was wasting time?
Speaker 5: I was wasting time. I wasted so many women's time.
Speaker 4: And you're essentially wasted your own time in facts.
Speaker 5: You know, And it's so sad that we go through
Speaker 5: good women to learn how to be good men. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna repeat that we go through good women, We hurt you,
Speaker 5: we scar you to learn how to be good men.
Speaker 5: And guess who's still walking around with the heartache and
Speaker 5: the pain you are? So if this man is going
Speaker 5: to treat you as a test, you better come up.
Speaker 5: You better come up.
Speaker 1: Well, what about you getting hurt though by a woman?
Speaker 1: Because I mean that happens too, right, there's times that
Speaker 1: you might put your all into somebody. What happens when
Speaker 1: it's the reverse? And now I don'e gave you for
Speaker 1: five dates and now you're done, broke my heart because
Speaker 1: you had two other holes.
Speaker 5: Right? But but but that don't happen to good men,
Speaker 5: not real good men. Real good men don't get played with.
Speaker 5: It's the boys that believe that through the good men
Speaker 5: be played with. Because if a man steps into a
Speaker 5: woman's life and he's elevating her on every single level,
Speaker 5: and she can see her growth. When she looks in
Speaker 5: the mirror, she sees a whole different person, a woman's
Speaker 5: not going to messgu I don't care how crazy this
Speaker 5: woman is, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that some woman ain't shit?
Speaker 4: I believe it.
Speaker 3: I also believe from experience that I have elevated in
Speaker 3: life with the help of a man, and even he
Speaker 3: didn't see it, you know, with me in this you know,
Speaker 3: we know I talk about the same person all the time.
Speaker 3: I had somebody in my life for almost fifteen years
Speaker 3: and we've been through a lot, and you know, the
Speaker 3: person that I was fifteen years ago is not the
Speaker 3: same woman that I am right now. But for some reason,
Speaker 3: well I'm not going to say right in this moment,
Speaker 3: but for some reason, there was a time when I
Speaker 3: was dealing with this man after all of these years
Speaker 3: had went by, and he's his his mindset and his
Speaker 3: concept of thinking about me and deal and with me.
Speaker 3: Was the same woman that was that woman way back then,
Speaker 3: and you helped me see my worth. You helped me
Speaker 3: elevate and become a better woman and to better myself
Speaker 3: all the way around the board.
Speaker 4: Why don't you see it?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the world may never know.
Speaker 1: When is it time to give up to you know,
Speaker 1: as we're talking about conversations now, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you grew from things that you've done in
Speaker 1: the past, for sure, and if somebody is holding you down,
Speaker 1: you know, when when is it time to tell a
Speaker 1: woman since this is just not it, like, it's not
Speaker 1: going to happen. If you've been through a lot, she's
Speaker 1: done things, he's done things. When is it time to
Speaker 1: say we could work on this? And when is it
Speaker 1: time to say enough enough? Like what are those signs?
Speaker 5: When like she just said, and this is perfect if
Speaker 5: you're grown as a woman, but he's still trying to
Speaker 5: treat you like the first that he met you, it's
Speaker 5: over with. He doesn't realize who you are. If he
Speaker 5: can't see who you are, your growth, it's time to.
Speaker 3: Go, especially when he had a hand in it help
Speaker 3: me get here.
Speaker 5: How do you not say, but that's crazy man, and
Speaker 5: teach you don't don't take this, don't take that. But
Speaker 5: they still try to dish it out to you. Come on,
Speaker 5: you can't do that. You can't heal a person and
Speaker 5: hurt a person at the same time. You can't lead
Speaker 5: a person and drag a person back at the same
Speaker 5: time as impossible.
Speaker 3: I didn't know I was coming to church today, told
Speaker 3: you these Monday.
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes I also believe that men have
Speaker 1: their trauma too that they dealt with, Like look you
Speaker 1: talked about I know you recently. Like with your father,
Speaker 1: he wasn't around the way he could have been, and
Speaker 1: you did reconnect with him. Yeah, you found him. And
Speaker 1: guys do deal with some things and maybe they don't
Speaker 1: even realize at times, and so how can you help
Speaker 1: them also because sometimes the way that they teach you
Speaker 1: is it's an excuse sometimes, but sometimes it's real, right,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, because and so there is some grace
Speaker 1: right for that too.
Speaker 5: A man that's striving to become better and accepts where
Speaker 5: he came from and where he wants to go. Now,
Speaker 5: a man that's using what he went through as a
Speaker 5: clutch as a crutch, it's over with for him because
Speaker 5: he's always going to blame what he went through for
Speaker 5: why he is who he is.
Speaker 1: He's never going to chat at a certain point because
Speaker 1: you know, guy, I'm a work in progress. He's still loading.
Speaker 1: So talk to me about reconnecting with your father too, and.
Speaker 5: So that Yeah, So I called. I called one of
Speaker 5: my partners. I said, I just gave him my name
Speaker 5: and the address. And I remember, I'm driving through Chicago
Speaker 5: at this time. I'm coming from Ohio. I'm driving through Chicago,
Speaker 5: and I said, man, his name, his address, find this
Speaker 5: for me, he said, I found it. It was in tennesc.
Speaker 5: He found the address. So I'll pull up to this
Speaker 5: man's house. I remember, I'm hopping. Now I'm fat. I'm fat,
Speaker 5: drop top bends long dreads. I'm knocking on the door.
Speaker 5: He's like, Yo, who are you? Wow, I'm your son.
Speaker 5: He just he gave me a hug, and I spend
Speaker 5: the night over there for three days and I left.
Speaker 5: Now I take care of my father. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: teaching my father how to be a man.
Speaker 1: And what did he say? Like, what conversation did you
Speaker 1: guys have?
Speaker 5: I asked my son? I said, while ago, Yeah, I
Speaker 5: saying why did you leave me? Like? Why'd you leave
Speaker 5: your baby? Boy? He said? Drugs? Son, he said, And
Speaker 5: this is like the crack era. He's like, I met
Speaker 5: a woman your mom. This, you know, he spoke highly
Speaker 5: of my mother. But he said, I left for work,
Speaker 5: to work somewhere else, and I met this woman and
Speaker 5: she got me hooked on crack. And I was on
Speaker 5: crack your whole life until two weeks before I knocked
Speaker 5: on his door.
Speaker 1: Wow, damn, So you just came to them crazy?
Speaker 5: Crazy?
Speaker 4: Also the father to your brothers.
Speaker 5: Or no, no, no, just me. But now I take
Speaker 5: care of him, you know, I provide for him, and
Speaker 5: I'm showing him how to be a man. I'm showing
Speaker 5: him how to be a father to me, love of
Speaker 5: my own children. Yeah, it was hard.
Speaker 1: So how did like not having connected with your father
Speaker 1: before that, how did that affect how you treated women?
Speaker 4: Do you think it?
Speaker 5: I never, I never, I never seen I never seen
Speaker 5: a woman loved. I never seen a man love a
Speaker 5: woman ever.
Speaker 1: Even when your mom got remarried.
Speaker 5: I've never. I never My mother married a week pretty boy.
Speaker 5: He was just six ' four, green eyes, light skin,
Speaker 5: just pretty but weak. You know, I don't consider him
Speaker 5: a man. I consider him a man and a boy
Speaker 5: in a man's body. He wasn't a man. He was cheap, too,
Speaker 5: very cheat, but.
Speaker 1: He was weak, Like what define what that is?
Speaker 5: Every time they got through it, he ran to his mother.
Speaker 5: Every time they had disagreements, he would run to his
Speaker 5: mother and put his mother in my mother's business, you know.
Speaker 5: Or if we're going to school and it's time to
Speaker 5: get school closed, and it'll get my mom one hundred
Speaker 5: dollars for me and my brother, what's one hundred dollars
Speaker 5: on part we can't get shoes, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 5: my father, my father was hooked on drugs, and it
Speaker 5: scarred me for a very long time because at one
Speaker 5: point I wanted to kill him. I said, if I
Speaker 5: ever find this man, I'm gonna kill him because I
Speaker 5: seen what my mother went through. And to be honest
Speaker 5: with you, that day, I was going there. I was
Speaker 5: gonna kill him. Oh damn, it's the truth. I was
Speaker 5: gonna kill him. That's why God his age. I was
Speaker 5: gonna kill him. But when he said son, I turned
Speaker 5: into a little boy all over again, and I told
Speaker 5: him him. I brought him and my mom together, Oh wow,
Speaker 5: together after thirty plus years right of not seeing each other.
Speaker 5: I put him in one space, I'm detoxing him, and
Speaker 5: I set him in front of my mother. I said
Speaker 5: I was gonna kill you. He said, son. I felt
Speaker 5: it coming. I felt that you was gonna do something
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. And this is interesting to talk about
Speaker 1: because when you think about like your father, like Jordan,
Speaker 1: I don't know what your relationship is, but like, how
Speaker 1: do you think that plays a role with my dad? Oh,
Speaker 1: my dad's my best friend. Okay.
Speaker 2: I lost my mom when I was seventeen, so it's
Speaker 2: just really been us. We have a very interesting dynamic,
Speaker 2: a lot more open minded than most father daughter relationships.
Speaker 1: But I think that's.
Speaker 2: What's made me so communicative and open and honest about
Speaker 2: who I am whenever wherever. He also had a really
Speaker 2: good relationship with both of his parents, and especially his mother,
Speaker 2: So I think we come from a fairly healthy line
Speaker 2: of open communication in a different way that I don't
Speaker 2: see in a lot of parent child relationships. However, him
Speaker 2: and my mom, they were married till she passed. They
Speaker 2: had some complications, and I think something calmon that I
Speaker 2: see that I think my dad is a little false
Speaker 2: victim to himself, is like, these men want to be
Speaker 2: bad bitches, Like they want to be coddled, and they
Speaker 2: want to be chased, and they want mothers. And I'm
Speaker 2: not raising nobody's son. So that's kind of where the
Speaker 2: downside of that relationship is, of having that healthy nurturing
Speaker 2: relationship is like, oh, you want to marry your mom,
Speaker 2: I'm not your mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know you're the You're the type of
Speaker 1: person you take care of your women right, like question right, everything,
Speaker 1: massage their feet, do everything everything.
Speaker 5: Nanny's maids. Whatever. I want my woman soft, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't want her upset. I don't want
Speaker 5: her looking tired. You know, anything they need that I
Speaker 5: can provide to make their lives easier, I'm going to
Speaker 5: provide it because I take being a provider seriously. I
Speaker 5: see what it does to a woman when she doesn't
Speaker 5: have that right, you.
Speaker 4: Know, and it makes a woman hard.
Speaker 3: It makes them very strong, and you know, we pride
Speaker 3: ourselves on being strong, right, but it brings a part
Speaker 3: of masculinity that we really don't need that we take on.
Speaker 5: And then when then when you meet a man that's
Speaker 5: trying to be a man, it's kind of hard for
Speaker 5: you to accept it because you've been hard for so long.
Speaker 1: But I also feel that because I've been very independent
Speaker 1: as far as like taking, I believe that I should
Speaker 1: be able to take care of myself. But it's great
Speaker 1: for me when I can find somebody who can take
Speaker 1: some of that off of me. But I feel comfortable
Speaker 1: knowing that I that you got it. Yeah, but I'm good.
Speaker 5: But it's a better feeling knowing that if you weren't good,
Speaker 5: your man got your back.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I never want to not be good like
Speaker 1: I want to feel like I can appreciate what you
Speaker 1: bring to the table and what you do for me,
Speaker 1: and it's amazing. But I also take great comfort because
Speaker 1: I think sometimes like Gigi was saying to her point earlier,
Speaker 1: feeling like this could all be taken away. Right, So
Speaker 1: it's nice to know, like to come together as two
Speaker 1: whole individuals where neither one of us are necessarily reliant
Speaker 1: on each other. But it's great that we can be.
Speaker 1: But you don't have to.
Speaker 5: But the thing is, the weak men have messed it
Speaker 5: up for men that really want to provide. And the
Speaker 5: leading god a woman, because like she say, you got
Speaker 5: men that dangle all this and then as soon as
Speaker 5: you don't do what they want, they pull it back.
Speaker 5: And then you have men like me that want to say,
Speaker 5: I want you good with me or without me, I
Speaker 5: want you good. Now, it's kind of hard for me
Speaker 5: to convince you to allow me to properly take care
Speaker 5: of you.
Speaker 1: What do you think about prenups? Know what you mean,
Speaker 1: like a prenup before you get if you're getting married, No, no.
Speaker 5: If I'm setting you up. If I'm if I'm setting
Speaker 5: you up properly, we're not gonna have no problem. The
Speaker 5: problem is most men don't know how to lead. They're
Speaker 5: coming into these relationships without knowing how to be providers mentally, emotionally, physically,
Speaker 5: and spiritually. Because money is just an add on money.
Speaker 5: Money is the bonus. But if I can't lead you
Speaker 5: emotionally or mentally, come on now, now you need a prenup.
Speaker 5: You now I need a prenup. But if I know
Speaker 5: who I am, I know who I chose because I
Speaker 5: trust me, I trust me completely. I know who I chose.
Speaker 5: I'm going to set you all the way up. You're up.
Speaker 5: I'm changing your life overnight. It's no waiting, no waiting.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna date you for three, four or five months,
Speaker 5: it's no My wife in Africa met her one day,
Speaker 5: spoken to her on the phone before I even seen her.
Speaker 5: Love the conversation about business, y'oll. Let me talk to
Speaker 5: your parents, let me marry you. My first wife here
Speaker 5: in America went to her father. Hey, I'm gonna change
Speaker 5: your daughter's life. She'll never need you again for anything
Speaker 5: but to be a father.
Speaker 1: And how long too before you did that?
Speaker 5: What do you mean a week? I'm not playing old games.
Speaker 3: I'm coming in crazy accepting that man's proposal after three
Speaker 3: day Okay.
Speaker 1: But Jiji, here we are, y'all did not get married.
Speaker 1: We did not get married.
Speaker 3: Maybe you were engaged. He's sixty five days. And then
Speaker 3: I realized that this was DJ.
Speaker 1: Came in a week after me, well, reconnecting with this guy,
Speaker 1: like I'm engaged, y'all. I was like, what.
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: But hey, if you like it, I love it.
Speaker 4: But one thing, I liked it for two months?
Speaker 5: Right, But when a real man wants you, he don't
Speaker 5: let you know. He ain't playing again. He don't want
Speaker 5: you to he he doesn't want you on the market.
Speaker 5: It's over with. It's your my responsibility. I love you.
Speaker 5: Can you hold me down? Can you nurture me what
Speaker 5: I provide? Can you nurture what I provide? Not me
Speaker 5: as a man, because I don't need you to be
Speaker 5: my mother. I'm not choosing to sleep with my mother.
Speaker 5: I'm not a needy boy. I'm completely healed as a man.
Speaker 5: Can you nurture this business? Can you nurture these thoughts?
Speaker 5: Can you nurture this spiritually? And she said, yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna change your whole. I'm gonna change in your whole
Speaker 5: world your mind?
Speaker 4: Are you teaching this?
Speaker 1: He does have of course, because we need more men
Speaker 1: like you out here. I don't know a.
Speaker 3: Week though, do you love more men like you out here?
Speaker 4: You're speaking?
Speaker 5: But when a man knows himself, though.
Speaker 3: Class, where are you students? Where are your students? Because
Speaker 3: we will also tell you.
Speaker 1: That it takes a while to get to know a
Speaker 1: person's true self and not their representative. That's another conversation
Speaker 1: you know that's being had all the time.
Speaker 5: But when you know yourself. See the problem with a
Speaker 5: lot of people don't know themselves, so they're attracting, they're
Speaker 5: attracting certain parts of them that they truly don't like.
Speaker 5: I know me, I know me, I know I'm the leader.
Speaker 5: I know if we go back, I'm responsible because I
Speaker 5: brought you into my life. I'm not blaming you for nothing.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pay for you. I pay for you to
Speaker 5: come in. I'm gonna pay for you to go out.
Speaker 2: Do they get raised?
Speaker 5: Is my wife? My wives? Every time they give birth,
Speaker 5: every time they give birth, I pay them one hundred.
Speaker 2: And fifty What a what a push present?
Speaker 1: That is? My gosh? This is like I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: I already know there's gonna be all kinds of conversations
Speaker 1: in the comm because I told you earlier, you know,
Speaker 1: because I've I followed your page and I see people
Speaker 1: will be like, yeah, they don't believe it. They put
Speaker 1: the little cap emoji because they.
Speaker 2: Don't believe they're worth receiving. That type of is what
Speaker 2: I'm hearing exactly. I'm gonna let y'all know I'm going
Speaker 2: to capital girl for this. Somebody's gonna hit on me.
Speaker 2: I like fifty thousand dollars. I would love to do
Speaker 2: this experiment. Look, we need to make it an experiment.
Speaker 2: Jordan's okay, let's do that.
Speaker 1: I'm ready because there's going to be some pushback because
Speaker 1: some guys I already know they're gonna say, especially if
Speaker 1: they just met you and you're like me, not even
Speaker 1: like a date first.
Speaker 5: He's coming into your life to play with you. When
Speaker 5: a man a man know what they want. I'm not
Speaker 5: coming to play. I want you. I'm gonna take care
Speaker 5: of you.
Speaker 1: You mind, But you know that instantly because you just
Speaker 1: told me earlier. You know, we talked about physical attraction.
Speaker 1: How do you even know? Because that has to be
Speaker 1: a physical attraction if you are. I know me, right,
Speaker 1: I know me.
Speaker 5: I'm not dating for a look, I'm thinking for a
Speaker 5: mental a mind state. I'm not dating for you.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is if you're like somebody approaches
Speaker 1: Jordan and Capitol Grille today right when they approach, when
Speaker 1: they approach her, but they don't know her at all,
Speaker 1: Like they just know what she looks like. They don't
Speaker 1: know anything about her. So you can't just be like
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. They don't even know that they would.
Speaker 5: But there are men, I'm telling you, I'm telling there
Speaker 5: are men that will approach a woman, so I want
Speaker 5: to change your life.
Speaker 1: But how do they know? They don't know anything about you? Like,
Speaker 1: how do they.
Speaker 4: Don't have to?
Speaker 5: They know themselves, They know themselves.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying you feel the same way about that
Speaker 3: situation I was in when this guy said after day three,
Speaker 3: I want you to be.
Speaker 1: A lot.
Speaker 5: A lot of women are dealing with athletes and rappers
Speaker 5: and their money's not really that long. Y'all gotta get
Speaker 5: around some real boss. And I'm just being.
Speaker 2: But I feel like when you do approach someone right,
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, do I look clean? Is my you
Speaker 2: know that there are certain things that we can tell
Speaker 2: about people off the rip that are aligned with what
Speaker 2: we're looking for.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like that's still physical. You don't
Speaker 1: know anything about somebody's mental just approaching them at all,
Speaker 1: Like how can you but.
Speaker 2: If you look a mess, I'm gonna be like, you're
Speaker 2: mentally unstable.
Speaker 1: But to be mentally unstable and be well put together
Speaker 1: tracks you know, you can be having an off day
Speaker 1: and like you just know, like when.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, when you know yourself, and when
Speaker 4: you know yourself, you know.
Speaker 3: Yes, he proposed after three days, but thirty minutes into
Speaker 3: our first day he asked me to commit to him.
Speaker 1: So and I said, yes, this would be great if
Speaker 1: it worked out.
Speaker 3: Because it did not work out. But guess what, I
Speaker 3: was the one who called it off. It wasn't like
Speaker 3: saying it did all that and was then dropped me
Speaker 3: like once I realized it wasn't gonna work for me.
Speaker 3: I was the one who said, Okay, I'm cool, but
Speaker 3: I also felt like because again, but the best yeah
Speaker 3: and stop, it's your anniversary.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So let's say initially after that week,
Speaker 1: when you were like, okay, I already know what I
Speaker 1: wanted what it is, So had you guys already had
Speaker 1: sex and did that.
Speaker 5: I'm talking to parents like I want I wanted. I'm
Speaker 5: locking you in before I'm talking to your parents. It's
Speaker 5: over with, you know. I'm talking to the father. I'm
Speaker 5: pulling to the silid. I'm gonna take care of your daughter.
Speaker 5: Both fathers know about each other, both of my wife.
Speaker 5: They know about each other like nothing in my life
Speaker 5: is a secret. And the father said, as long as
Speaker 5: my daughter is happy, I'm happy for and I see
Speaker 5: that you're doing an amazing job.
Speaker 1: Would your father say that, Jordan?
Speaker 4: If no, he might.
Speaker 2: You know, I've done some wild things, you know, some
Speaker 2: pile things. My father came to my playmate of the
Speaker 2: year shoe, you know what I'm saying, and things like that,
Speaker 2: so he might. He's like, usually it'll be like you're
Speaker 2: grown and as long as you're good and as long
Speaker 2: as you're saying, you'll be okay. He might say some
Speaker 2: things behind my back that I don't know, but the family.
Speaker 1: Be like, right there she go again. Right now? What
Speaker 1: do you say to men who are listening to this
Speaker 1: right now? And they're like, I want to be able
Speaker 1: to find a woman that can match me. But it's
Speaker 1: a hard thing to do.
Speaker 5: What do you mean match me?
Speaker 1: Like, just match what it is that he wants, compliment
Speaker 1: who he is, because you know, let's be real. For women,
Speaker 1: it's hard for us to find a man for a man.
Speaker 1: For a man, it's hard to find the right.
Speaker 5: Woman's but it's not not for a man. A lot
Speaker 5: of these boys are stuck in men's bodies. But a
Speaker 5: real man can lead a woman to greatness. It's my
Speaker 5: job to lead you.
Speaker 1: But what should they be looking for if they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: what are some of this?
Speaker 5: Sign a woman that's open minded. If you're willing to
Speaker 5: be led, you can be led. That's it. And he
Speaker 5: has to make sure that he's a man. Majority these
Speaker 5: men that you see aren't men. They're not men. They
Speaker 5: sound like men, they look like men, they're not men,
Speaker 5: and that's why so many women are hurt.
Speaker 1: Men get hurt too. Nowadays. I feel like I feel.
Speaker 5: Like men hurt themselves if you're if a man. These
Speaker 5: boys only want to be leaders when it's convenient. If
Speaker 5: I'm the leader and I chose you, how can you
Speaker 5: hurt me? I brought you into my world. How can
Speaker 5: you hurt me?
Speaker 1: I hurt me me by example, and I brought up
Speaker 1: the course earlier. Can you talk about that because you
Speaker 1: also do help couples?
Speaker 5: No, I just I just created. It's called a Millionaire's
Speaker 5: Love course, right, And this doesn't just teach couples about
Speaker 5: how to become better as one, but singles how to
Speaker 5: find what you're looking for, how to get your money
Speaker 5: all the way right, and just falling deeper in love
Speaker 5: with yourself. And they can they can go to that.
Speaker 5: Let me shout this out the yachtis dot com because
Speaker 5: this was creative with my first wife. We both sat
Speaker 5: down and we created. And she's a multi millionaire. You know,
Speaker 5: she wasn't a multi millionaire when I met her. And
Speaker 5: she had a baby when I met her. So she
Speaker 5: came in with a three year old and I wife
Speaker 5: both of them. I take care of the daughter. I
Speaker 5: love her like she's my own child, even though she
Speaker 5: still has her father in her life. This is what
Speaker 5: real men do. But it's called the yachtis dot com.
Speaker 5: Th h E y A d a us dot com.
Speaker 5: Go there and get your life right?
Speaker 2: Do you do custom mantras? I need custom in the
Speaker 2: mirror like while I'm walking on the street, and right
Speaker 2: like underneath subliminally.
Speaker 5: The greatest thing I tell people all the time is
Speaker 5: just fall in love with yourself. You know, sometimes we're
Speaker 5: afraid to be alone, but we need to. We need
Speaker 5: to fall so deep in love with ourselves that nothing
Speaker 5: knows matters. And I promise you want to attract what
Speaker 5: you want when you love you, and don't settle for nothing.
Speaker 5: Have your fun, datam all. You know they don't all,
Speaker 5: but but don't But don't don't settle for anything. Don't sacrifice.
Speaker 5: You'll have any for no man. They they're not worthy
Speaker 5: of that. You are the portals of life. You give birth,
Speaker 5: you deserve greatness.
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this. Since your first wife
Speaker 1: already had a three year old, how did you get
Speaker 1: along with her child's father?
Speaker 5: He hates me because because I introduced his daughter into
Speaker 5: something that that he didn't. He didn't, he couldn't, and
Speaker 5: she loves me as her own father, and he hates that,
Speaker 5: you know, and I uplifted a woman that he couldn't.
Speaker 5: He hates that, you know, I took a woman she
Speaker 5: ain't all that, and he sees the greatness in her
Speaker 5: you know when you pull up in a four on
Speaker 5: a nigga still driving his mama car, it's a difference.
Speaker 1: Thanks, he hates you even more than Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: you think there's ever a time that you guys will
Speaker 1: be able to like.
Speaker 5: I'll pull him to the salad. You know, I'm a
Speaker 5: real man. I'll pull him to the side. I said, Look,
Speaker 5: she loves both of us. You know, I can't even
Speaker 5: help you get yourself together. But his ego on man's
Speaker 5: ailing prize, his downfall. It's a downfall. It's a downfall.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? But maybe I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I can help you get yourself together. Well, listen, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate you for coming through because I know this
Speaker 1: is a journey and I cannot wait to hear what
Speaker 1: people have to say after they hear this episode.
Speaker 4: I don't read the comments, but I think I might
Speaker 4: have dive.
Speaker 1: I'm doing a follow up, but this is always interesting
Speaker 1: to me. Also because a lot of things that I
Speaker 1: know people will push back on. I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure we bring that up so you can respond to
Speaker 1: that before it actually, you know, comes out, because I
Speaker 1: want to hear what people have to say, you have
Speaker 1: a social experiment that we need to figure out. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: what do you think about? It's not getting married like
Speaker 1: a lot of people are, like I could be with
Speaker 1: somebody and not be married.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I think I believe that a man
Speaker 5: should be come to a woman, and a woman committed to
Speaker 5: a man. You're my responsibility.
Speaker 1: And can you be committed without marriage.
Speaker 5: It depends on a person. Some people can, but you
Speaker 5: should reap some benefits. I'm saying if you're going to
Speaker 5: as a woman, I'm talking speaking from a woman's perspective.
Speaker 5: If you're going to dedicate yourself to a man, laying
Speaker 5: with this man, that sex is not good. You're trying
Speaker 5: to raise them because a lot of men are broken,
Speaker 5: literally broken, So you have to literally play mama some
Speaker 5: of the times and a therapist some of the times,
Speaker 5: as long as you're reaping some type of benefit that
Speaker 5: suits you. Some women don't want money. Someone might just
Speaker 5: buy me a house and rent it out and let
Speaker 5: me make money from that. But I believe a woman
Speaker 5: should be if you're going to play wife to a man,
Speaker 5: play the role of a wife, make sure he puts
Speaker 5: you in a house to make sure you can handle
Speaker 5: your responsibilities.
Speaker 1: Because your second wife. You guys, can you be legally married?
Speaker 1: I know she's not in this into.
Speaker 5: A different country. Depends if on the countries itself, you know,
Speaker 5: because he's not tied.
Speaker 1: But now I'm just wondering about that because I feel
Speaker 1: like nowadays for some people, but they're like, we can
Speaker 1: just be together. We don't have to be married, Like
Speaker 1: we can be committed to each other. You know, marriage
Speaker 1: for a lot of.
Speaker 5: People scared, it's scary because they only seen the bad
Speaker 5: side from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, marriage is a scary thing. So many people get
Speaker 1: divorced or do not like their husband or wife.
Speaker 5: Women women are leading in the voice race like they're
Speaker 5: divorcing men at high numbers because men aren't men anymore.
Speaker 5: They're not men. They don't know how to lead and
Speaker 5: on how to protect. And when I say protect them,
Speaker 5: i'm talking about physically, I'm talking about emotionally. Most men
Speaker 5: do not know how to protect them women. Emotionally, you'll
Speaker 5: start crying. He'll blame you for crying. Why are you crying?
Speaker 5: What you're doing? Like, come on, man, I'm soft love
Speaker 5: that woman. I want to take care of her.
Speaker 1: How do you feel when a man cries in front
Speaker 1: of you, depending on the situation.
Speaker 3: Okay, and I've been around a man when he lost
Speaker 3: the you know, a family member and cried.
Speaker 4: It depends on, like what's the reason.
Speaker 3: I also had a man who cried when I tried
Speaker 3: to break up with him, but.
Speaker 4: But then he tried to kill me.
Speaker 1: So, oh my gosh, she's seen it all. Basically, you said,
Speaker 1: what she's seen it all?
Speaker 3: He boohoo cried and then kicked the air conditioning unit
Speaker 3: in my window and woke me up with a knife
Speaker 3: to my throat.
Speaker 5: What the first one?
Speaker 4: The second one is the one who may he rest
Speaker 4: in peace?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. All right, Well on that note, oh
Speaker 1: my girl, got to thank you so much for joining appreciated.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you to O g W. That's
Speaker 1: that's our guy right here, street lord Win. Everybody in
Speaker 1: Detroit knows him, so even before he came out here,
Speaker 1: everybody's like, you got to make sure that you, you know,
Speaker 1: talk to one. I remember when you came home from
Speaker 1: from jail, you know, and what a big deal it
Speaker 1: was for everybody. Is that where you're originally.
Speaker 3: From, where you originally from California, Okay, yeah, did you
Speaker 3: live in Detroit.
Speaker 5: A little bit? A little bit, because.
Speaker 3: I've noticed from experience that Detroit men are a lot
Speaker 3: like what you're Is that true?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the treatment.
Speaker 3: Are men and they know how to take care of
Speaker 3: their women. Sure, in my in my experiences, without a question,
Speaker 3: it's always them Detroit where I need to go.
Speaker 4: Let's take a triplet's.
Speaker 1: Social experiment in Detroit. Okay, yeah, So we do have
Speaker 1: a party in Detroit coming up July twentieth, so come
Speaker 1: with because it's going to be at the rooftop of Cambria.
Speaker 1: I'm also hosting like a concer rn BLA for a
Speaker 1: couple of days and it is We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: good time. So that's them away. Shout out to everybody
Speaker 1: in the baby all right, Well, thank you so much
Speaker 1: again for coming through. And we're gonna do this experiment
Speaker 1: for real.
Speaker 4: No, you know, I mean, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I got my man, so I'm I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just watch y'all.
Speaker 2: You're just gonna observe.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna observed. I got to do it. But
Speaker 1: layers in this. But yes, yes, write notes. I write
Speaker 1: a slip service.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.