1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: An iconic American luxury brand is joining Formula One next year. 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: GM's Cadillac team will make its debut with two superstar drivers, 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: ten time Grand Prix winner Valteri Botas and six time 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: Grand Prix winner Sergio Checko Perez here with us now 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: is Cadillac f One CEO Dan Towis. It's great to 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: have you here with us. I'd love to first just 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 2: get a little bit of a background check on how 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: you got into this business, from running Gamebridge, from being 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: an insurance executive to now running teams across NASCAR, IndyCar 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 2: and starting next to year Formula one. 12 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 4: So it really started in sponsorship, you know, with the 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 4: team and a partnership with Andretti. But then kind of 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: when we look at TWG Global, the parent of our company, 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 4: and what Mark Walter is built in a sports media company, 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 4: we saw a thesis in motorsport to you know, to 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 4: get involved, and you know it's really focused on Formula one, 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: but not just Formula One. It's really every major motorsport globally, 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 4: from ULSTRAI, NBA supercars, to sports cars, NASCAR, Indiecar, Formulae 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 4: and now Formula one, so we're very excited about that. 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: So it's it's I think really cool that you have 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: the resume you do, because I was when I talked 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: to Mark Royce, I asked him, how do you convert 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: motorsports fans into buyers of Chevy's Cadillacs corvettes? What have you? 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: You know? 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: Because you run this insurance company and that's how you 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: get your start here. I guess you've had great experience 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: in doing those conversions. Now you hire people like Valcheri Botas. 30 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: I want to take a look at the tweet that 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: he put out this morning. This is a guy who 32 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: not only is he an incredibly talented driver, obviously a 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: Grand Prix winner, but he knows marketing too. 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: This is what he posted this more. I guess he 35 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: gets it. He's a education to an American brand. Here. 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're so excited about these two. I mean, they're 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: both you know, characters. You know, they have storied careers 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 4: in Formula one, but they're not done. 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: This is the next chapter. You know. 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: They're the chosen two for the Cadillac Formula One team 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: to hit the grid in twenty twenty six, and we're 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: super excited about them. 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: So how long are you giving the team before you 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: expect that you're going to win a race or a championship. 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 4: No, it is going to be a process. I mean, 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: Formula one is the pinnacle of motorsport. It's so difficult. 47 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: The smallest difference can make a huge difference on track. 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: But I think that's where their experience comes in. You know, 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: we'll have over a thousand people working on this team, 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: and so a lot of times people just think about 51 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: the driver of the car. But it's a team sport, 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 4: you know, and so that leadership and experience knowing what 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: to expect for a brand new team. So even though 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 4: we have all these experienced people in Formula one, they've 55 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: got to work together. We've got to build team chemistry, 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: and so check O and Valtry, you know, are the 57 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: perfect choice to help. You know, just bring that experience, 58 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: get feedback on the car, get the team working together. 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 4: They know what to expect, they've been there before. 60 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: So you're going to kick it off with Ferrari power trains. 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: You bring your own Cadillac power trains in a few 62 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: years down the road. But I'm guessing you're gonna have 63 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: to pay almost half a billion dollars to get in 64 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: and then what two point fifty a year? 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 3: How long until you think you can become champions? 66 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 4: You know it's going to take a few years, but 67 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: we're very excited about that. We're committed to this process. 68 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: It is a multi billion dollar investment in total. You know, 69 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 4: we'll have over six hundred thousand square feet of manufacturing 70 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: under roof in the US between Indianapolis and Charlotte, between 71 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: the team and the power unit company and all those 72 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: people working together. We also have a base of operations 73 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: in Silverston, so this is a global operation for Cadillac 74 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 4: Formula one and so really when we hit the grid, 75 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: you know, it's a new chassis and a new power 76 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: unit next year, so it kind of mixes up the 77 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 4: competitive landscape in Formula one, and so we get to 78 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: figure out where, you know, where do we stack up 79 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: against these teams. None of these cars will have been 80 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: on the track together when we get there, and then 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: what I'll be looking at is what does our you know, 82 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: what does our progress look like? What's the upward trajectory 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: of that team? Because that really gets to the question 84 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: of how long till we run a race? You know, 85 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: how long till we get on a podium. But the 86 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: ambitions for this team are high and the resources are tremendous, 87 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: and so together with General Motors, with Mark Royce and 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 4: the tremendous team there, Mary and Mark, you know, we're 89 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 4: going to be working hard to make sure that we're 90 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: competing at the top of the food chain in Formula one. 91 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: I wonder what this means for the Cadillac brand, because 92 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: all right, they have had in the past, I guess 93 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: the Monster in the nineteen fifties at Lamar and of 94 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 2: course I just went to Lamal this year to see 95 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: them with Team Joda and their hypercar is amazing. But 96 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: you don't you hadn't previously thought about them as a 97 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: sports car brand. Obviously they had the CTSV and now 98 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: they have the Black Wing, which are you know, Krem 99 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: de la Crem. 100 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: But what do you think this does for Cadillac sales? 101 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's they're really pushing technology and innovation, 102 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: you know, with this news series of cars that they're 103 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 4: that they're coming out with, and I think, you know, 104 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: Cadillac continues to see their market share increasing, you know, 105 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 4: wrap quite rapidly, So I think it's the perfect time 106 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 4: for Cadillac to come into Formula one to really even 107 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: start to push a younger demographic that we're seeing, you know, 108 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 4: the growth in Formula one and so and so. I think, 109 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: as I've talked two fans, everyone has a Cadillac story, 110 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: you know, and so there's a strong connection to that brand. 111 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 4: So combined with the new products that Cadillac's coming out with, 112 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 4: and then the relevancy of being in Formula one competing 113 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: against Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren, Aston, Martin and the likes, I 114 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: think it's a It's a good combination for. 115 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: Cadillac and gonna be an amazing rivalry with Ford. I mean, 116 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: I was thinking of Lamm about how cool it will 117 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: be when Ford goes into the HyperCard. But that's only 118 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: for like niche like totally dedicated car freaks. This is 119 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: F one now, I mean, one of the most popular 120 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: in America. 121 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: It's up there with NASCAR now, I think. And Ford's 122 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: going to enter one next year too. 123 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: So how do you feel about that Crosstown rivalry GM versus. 124 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting, it's very different. I think Ford's 125 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: partnership with Red Bull is at a much different level. 126 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: I think what we have with GM. Here is is 127 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: an equity partnership, not a sponsorship. They're integration, they're leading 128 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 4: the power unit development, They're not assisting in the power 129 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: unit development. So the participation of GM and Cadillac in 130 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 4: this versus Ford and Red Bull very very different. But yeah, 131 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: you still have these American motorsport powers, automobile you know powers, 132 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 4: you know, going. 133 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: Head to head. 134 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: But then when you think about you've got one in 135 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: seven Americans that identify as a fan in Formula ones. 136 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: That's over fifty million Americans say they're a fan of 137 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 4: Formula one, but they're not yet watching races. So the 138 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 4: real key is going to be how do we convert 139 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 4: those fans into race watching fans. How do we convert 140 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: them into Cadillac fans, which I think will then they'll 141 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 4: see the bump in you know, in car sales. 142 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 3: All Right, I'm pretty excited. 143 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: I know you can you tell Katie, you can tell yes, Dan, 144 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining us, Dan Towers there of 145 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: Cadillac F one