1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: If you don't bring your own spongy ice cream place. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 3 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Good morning, swirl and welcome to the No Dupes podcast 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Sunday, Yes, Sunday morning, July eighteenth. 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm j Ski throlling with the homie task Mellet. 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 3: What's up, everybody? 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: What's up? 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: Task? 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: Got my top shot, hot boy, he's got his F 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: one cap on ready for the race today. Trey Kirby, Oh, 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Trey Kirby, I am not hearing you're muted. 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 4: Okay, now I'm unmuted. Sorry. I was getting very excited. 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 4: Ao that's firstapp and just went into the wall. 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Up, whoa breaking news from Silverstone? Wow wow? Okay, first 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: lap wow wow. 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 4: I muted And apparently today Max for Stapping is muted. 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 4: I'm know what's going on here. We got a yellow flag. 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: But he's all right, he's all right. It's not it's 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: not a silver Stone wall, is it? Or is it? 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: Like? 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know. They're getting out a thing for 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 4: Hamilton too. They're getting him a new front wing. He 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: doesn't have a front of his car right now. Crazy 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 4: stuff is going down. That's why I was muted. 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: Sorry, it's all right, got the international man of mystery 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: taking it to the max, still looking mad sweaty from 27 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Legoland Lee Ellis friends. 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually not too bad. It's finally cooled off 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: a little down here and billind in Denmark. So uh, 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: I'm a little I'm a little moist still, but I'm 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: not just dripping all over myself like I was earlier 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 2: in the week. 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: Okay, and finally making the matchic happen. It's JD. 34 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: Hello, there he is here. 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 4: We are what a start. 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: Shout out to the stream team for joining us live 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: right now on YouTube here on the weekend. Everybody take 38 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: a second smash that like button. All right, just do it, 39 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: I'll pause, all right, keep sending in your questions and 40 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: comments for the next beach Step in podcast. Email them 41 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: in No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com. We're gonna 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: be hitting the beach tomorrow, yes, Monday morning, So you 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: got a little bit of time here to get your 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: fantastic questions and comments in, so email them, tweet them in, 45 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: lead them in the YouTube comments below, and finally grow 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: grab your No dunks Mert Schover at No dunks dot com. Okay, 47 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: let's get into game. Five of the NBA Finals. We're 48 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: gonna talk Lillard a little bit. We'll talk Team USA 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: a little bit as well. But the Bucks edge the 50 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: Suns one twenty three, one nineteen. Another awesome game task 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: to take the three to two lead in the NBA Finals. 52 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: Where do you want to start? Do we start at 53 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: the end? 54 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: Well? I think the only way they get to the 55 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: end is with Drew Holiday playing the way he was. 56 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 3: I mean, this was a real Bucks team performance. I mean, 57 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: if you picked the Bucks before the series start, you're 58 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: probably thinking that Drew Holly and Chris Middleton carry over 59 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: what they did without Yannis at the end of the 60 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Final. But we didn't see all three of 61 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: those guys work together like this until Game five. This 62 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: was easily their best game all together. Yanny's thirty two, 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: Chris Middleton twenty nine, and Drew Holiday twenty seven took 64 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: till game five. We know Lebron likes feel out game 65 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: Once up three to two, now after trailing two, Oh, 66 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: It's like Yannis is a super Lebron. I mean, this 67 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: is a this is another version of Lebron. Maybe Lebron 68 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: sitting courtside actually helped Yannison not Chris Paul Well, I 69 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 3: don't know what that means, but anyways, he was sitting 70 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 3: court side like this. This was this is the first 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: quarter there when Drew went out because he had two 72 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: fouls just five minutes in, it looked so bleak. But 73 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: I think you got to give Boonholzer a little bit 74 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: of credit because he came back and with three minutes 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: left in the quarter. He could have kept him on 76 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: the bench for longer, but Drew Holiday was the guy 77 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: who helped him in the In the second quarter, Yanis 78 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: went to the bench and after the Suns had their 79 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: big lead, they got it all back with Yannis on 80 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: the bench. They beat the Suns by fourteen points there. 81 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: And Holiday was monstrous. He had fourteen in that second quarter. 82 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: So give Bud some credit. Don't do that a lot. 83 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: And I think if we go to the end, I 84 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: don't think Drewalidy makes that pass to Yanni's if he 85 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: doesn't have such a good game for the first you know, 86 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: three point nine quarters, like he's just not feeling as 87 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 3: good on the defensive end, he still gets that rip. 88 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: No matter what. He's been great through five games. But 89 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: you know, we talk about Chris Middleton, the fairis wheel 90 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: Drew Holliday, if he's a ride at the local fair, 91 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: he's like that vertical thing that's like ten ten cages 92 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: wide that just goes straight up and straight down. I mean, 93 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 3: he's great sometimes, but he's not. This is this is 94 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: his second great game offensively of the series two and five, 95 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: And everybody wondered, could this guy be the third star 96 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: that Yannis needed? And sometimes he absolutely isn't. But that's 97 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: why he's not a number one guy. He comes through 98 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: at times, and he was. He's been so good on 99 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: the defensive end, so so good, and to pot yeah 100 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: twenty seven and then and then drop that pass to 101 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: Yannis who now has an incredible finals highlight reel. He's 102 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: got obviously the blocking game four and now this huge, 103 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: huge dunk. They came through with a bunch of performances 104 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 3: while the Suns, even though you know, people look at 105 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 3: Devin Booker's back to back forty which were incredible and 106 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: say you should have played Devin Moore. He was plus 107 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: twelve in his minutes. I think you needed more from 108 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: Booker's teammates. So you needed Chris Paul to get those 109 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: guys going, and those that didn't absolutely didn't happen, and 110 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: Chris Paul was a step behind Drew Holliday and Chris Middleton. 111 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 3: Although his SAT line looks good, he wasn't superstar like enough. 112 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: If those three are playing the way they are in Middleton, 113 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: Drew and Yannie, you need somebody to play like a star. 114 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: And you know, as decent as Chris was, even though 115 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: the Suns shoot ridiculous percentages they should, like almost seventy 116 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: percent from three to fifty five percent from the floor, 117 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 3: you needed a little more star, Parwer. You needed Chris 118 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: Paul to have one of those thirty point games back 119 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: at home, and it didn't happen. 120 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bucks Big three TK fifth trio in NBA 121 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: Finals history to record twenty five points on fifty percent 122 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: shooting in the same game. Last one to do it 123 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: James Worthy, Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Magic Johnson in eighty 124 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: five with those percentages and hitting twenty five plus. But 125 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: you know you had talked a lot about Drew Holiday TK, 126 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 1: how he needs to step up, he needs to be big, 127 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: and it would sure help that would happen on the 128 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: same night where a Chris and Giannis continue to play 129 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: well and that's what happened here in Game five. I mean, 130 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: the points were big, especially keeping them in it there 131 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: in the first half, in that second quarter, especially which 132 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: I know we'll get into probably more detail. But then 133 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: thirteen assists, including that one chucking it up to the 134 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: rafters only where Yannis can go get it, ballsy move. 135 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: A lot of people are, you know, dribbling out the 136 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 1: clock there, and and probably you know what, they always 137 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: score in transition. It's their best opportunity for a basket. 138 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: And you're not great at the free throw line, as 139 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: we've all seen, so hell of a call. But yeah, 140 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: Drew Holiday coming through for you there in Game five. 141 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: That was incredible, the signature Big three game for the Bucks, 142 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: no doubt about it. Everybody did exactly like why the 143 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: Bucks have them there in the first place? Janis was 144 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 4: Yannis the guy is in another stratosphere right now. This 145 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: is an all time Finals performance we're seeing, and everybody 146 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 4: thought his season was over two weeks ago. It's still 147 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: wild to imagine that Giannis is making these plays off 148 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 4: of his injured leg. Like the block was off of 149 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: his left leg, the dunk last night was off of 150 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: his left leg. That's awesome to see Chris Middleton. Very 151 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: funny stuff with regards to Chris Middleton on the Ferris 152 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: Wheel started off rocky, something went wrong down at the 153 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: control station and we got stuck at the top there. 154 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 4: One for seven in the first quarter. I think he 155 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: went what eleven for sixteen the rest of the way. 156 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: And Drew Holliday I've said he's a two way player, 157 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: but you don't always see both sides on both in 158 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: a game last night, he was all over the place 159 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 4: offensively and defensively. Even that missed free throw right at 160 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: the end where you know, I think it's after the 161 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 4: dunk right and Giannis goes to the line to shoot 162 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: one more free throw, it's basically Drew Holliday who gets 163 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 4: the tip and he starts that playoff almost at half court, 164 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: like Devin Booker is the guy who's supposed to be 165 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: blocking him out on the free throw line three point line. 166 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: I guess Yanna shoots the thing and he gets in. 167 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: It's a terrible miss, so bad that it was good 168 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: for the Bucks. But Drew Holliday was right there to 169 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: get his hand on it, to outwork Booker, to tip 170 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 4: it up and to keep that possession for the Bucks. 171 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: They went and iced it at the line and the 172 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: game was over. He was just he was in his bag. 173 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: He was in his bag offensively and defensively and in 174 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: a hustle play way. You know, if you're gonna wait 175 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: until Game five of a pivotal NBA Finals game to 176 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: get the absolute best performance from Drew Holiday, that's awesome, right, 177 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: Like that's the ultimate slow play right there. I mean 178 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: I was calling him Drew Bledsoe in the Net series. 179 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: I was calling him Drew Bledsoe in the Hawk series. 180 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 4: He's been Drew Bledsoe sometimes in this series, but last 181 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: night he was Drew Holliday and it was great to see. 182 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so far in the postseason, ly the Bucks are 183 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: seven to one when Drew scores over twenty, and then they're, 184 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: you know, pedestrian eight and six when he does it, 185 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: sort of average when he does it, but when he 186 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: comes through with at least twenty or more, they tend 187 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: to win. He's a hell of a bell whether But 188 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: what'd you think about the steel and open in this game? 189 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: Entirely just a remarkable play to get that steal clean 190 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: off Devin Booker too. He just I know, the few sons. 191 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: Fans are saying, oh, you got Ray, you know raped 192 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 2: across the arm. 193 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: He didn't. 194 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: It was a clean steal. But then how many players 195 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 2: legit in NBA history? Could you throw that lob to 196 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: outside of Yanna's There's not a ton really, because and 197 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: Yannis Dress addressed that in the postgame. He said, if 198 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: he misses that pass, it's all on Drew. It's like 199 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: bad pass, What are you doing? You should have gone 200 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: in to try to score or get the foul hold 201 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: onto the ball, whatever. But Yannis goes up, and he 202 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: also had to deal with Chris Paul basically shoving him 203 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: in a very dangerous way too. I mean, you know, again, 204 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: if he goes down after a player like that when 205 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: he's in mid air, who knows what could have happened 206 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: to Yannis. But he's just such a freak of nature 207 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: that he was able to get up and did the 208 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: big flex and went crazy there. But you know, this 209 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: was all to say. The Bucks had this game fairly 210 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: comfortably too, I would say, for most of that second half, 211 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: and then they got a little bit sloppy. The Sun 212 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: started to execute, Chris Paul started to execut for them 213 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: in that last quarter, to you know, right down to 214 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: the end, and it could have been this would have 215 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: been an absolutely devastating loss, I think for the for 216 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: the Bucks if they had fallen out down here because 217 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: they were in control and then they got a bit 218 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: nervous and Yarnis couldn't get his free throws and Monty 219 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: Williams iced him as well, and everyone was talking trash 220 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: to Yarnas, and he also said after the game, I 221 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 2: lave it. 222 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: He loves it. 223 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: So I mean, in terms of, you know, a character 224 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: performance from the Bucks and from their leader and Yannis, 225 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: this was just an incredible victory that first quarter. The 226 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: Bucks have only won one first quarter in the series 227 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 2: and they lost that game was in Game two. If 228 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: they start a game, well, they could almost you know, 229 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: run away with this thing very quickly, but they couldn't. 230 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: And have felt this felt like, you know what, the Bucks, 231 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: They're going to be down by twenty at halftime. They 232 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: just felt they were playing badly, that ball was not 233 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: moving around, and everyone from Phoenix seemed to be scoring. 234 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: So for them to actually show that resilience and lead 235 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: by halftime, which was incredible, that they got rid of 236 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: all that deficit from the first quarter, you just you 237 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: could just sort of feel that Milwaukee was in control 238 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: and they had to close it out to give themselves 239 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: this chance now to win the series. They got two 240 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: chances to win, obviously the biggest one on Tuesday night 241 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: at home in front of their fans. But I mean, again, 242 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: these games, the last ninety seconds or so of these 243 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: last two games, I think these will be sort of 244 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: remembered forever and talked about forever because of just the 245 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: incredible highlight plays, the clutch defense. First Yannis in Game 246 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: four and now Drew Holiday in Game five, and then yeah, 247 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: that Aliyop. I mean, like it's funny when you're watching 248 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: the game live and you're like, oh Drew, my god, 249 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: Oh what an incredible pass there was I want to 250 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: finish from Yarnas because I was like, that's the bad 251 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: pass through. But Yada's got it, and it was like 252 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: for him to for him to even still to dunk that. 253 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: And when you see those slow mos, he's almost like 254 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: in half. He's almost like complete. 255 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: Scream from the other end of the floor to it. 256 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: This is not an oop where he is standing under 257 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: the rim. No, he is sprinting, Yeah, pull on rent 258 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: from one end to the other and then still executing it. 259 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: Lucky he grab that rim, and lucky you grab that rever. 260 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: Else Chris Paul would have tossed him into the first row. 261 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 3: Would have felt a little bit like Beverly toss and 262 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: Chris Paul at the end of last series, like that 263 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: was just a frustration, We're done going to push you 264 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: as hard as I possibly can to get my hands 265 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: on your crutch area, because he was like, you know, 266 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 3: fourteen feet above the rim there. But that would have 267 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 3: ended real badly if you just couldn't. He would have 268 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: landed under his injured legs something. But yeah, luckily he 269 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 3: grabbed that rim. 270 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: But I think Tassi made a good point. If Drew 271 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 2: Holiday wasn't playing, hadn't been playing as well as he'd 272 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: been playing throughout that game, I don't think he makes 273 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: that pass. I think he's instead he's like, Okay, I'm 274 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: gonna let them found me and go to the free 275 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: throat line. But he had the juice, he had it flowing. 276 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: He was talking to his dad after game four and 277 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: his dad was like, you know, forget about that was 278 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: a bad one. You're the best player in the world. 279 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't the best player in the world 280 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: last night. But my god, he was. He was pretty 281 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 2: close to it because you know him and Chris Middleton 282 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: playing at that level. Because Arnist obviously had a great game, 283 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: but it was those other two that really made it 284 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: so tough. I think for Phoenix Is they're like, oh 285 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: my god, Drew's killings, Chris Middleton's killing us, Yannis is 286 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: doing what he does. And Pat Connaton had fourteen points 287 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: on four threes. Again, when he had four threes in 288 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 2: game two, it was like that was that was all 289 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: out the support they had last night. It's like, now 290 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: Pat Conneton's also killing us. So just an incredible victory 291 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: from Milwaukee, so so impressive for hanging in there, you know, 292 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: for coming back from that big deficit and then hanging 293 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: on to close out the game. 294 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up Middleton because yeah, it's 295 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: a it's a fun ride on the Ferris wheel right now. 296 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: It was a little weird. I still think it was. 297 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: It's still perfect sort of, It's come down a little bit. 298 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't the crazy game for a performance, 299 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: but clutch shots or crucial shots I guess we can 300 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: call them. In game five, again he hit that and 301 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: one jumper on Crowder with about three minutes ago, Sons 302 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: had sort of been chipping away here and making it 303 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: a game. He hits that, and then a minute later 304 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: he hits the step back three over mckil bridges that 305 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: puts the Bucks up eating gives him a little more 306 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: breathing room. Obviously scored the final point of the game 307 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: on the free throw. He did miss one of them, 308 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: but he got the one that really mattered to ice 309 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: it with about ten seconds to go after the offensive 310 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: rebound off the Giannis miss free throw. But yeah, I mean, 311 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: he is fantastic. I saw Andy Bailey. I think it 312 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: was a bleacher report. Middleton has fourteen points in the 313 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: clutch and for those that don't know, that's the final 314 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: five minutes of fourth quarters in overtimes that are within 315 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: five points. Like that's the definition of these clutch points. 316 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: He's got fourteen. Every other player in the finals has 317 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: a combined thirteen. So like Middleton is just like hitting 318 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: of course, timely, timely buckets over the last couple of 319 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: games here in these wins, and it was he's been 320 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: awesome task, I mean, and again with the Bucks big three, 321 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: and then Pat Connington hitting you know, the fourth threes 322 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: and Bobby you don't playing well. It was really the 323 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: second quarter. Suns came out, lights out, like they were 324 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: having an incredible first quarter. Giannis goes to the bench 325 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: at the start of the second like he does, but 326 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: it was Drew, it was Pat, it was Bobby Brooke, 327 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: Chris Middleton, like they they saw couldn't miss a shot 328 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: and they were like it felt like in the blink 329 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: of an eye, they were down sixteen or fifteen, whatever 330 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: the hell it was, and it was like tied like 331 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: that past like because it was it was like by 332 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: the I don't know, seven minute mark in the second quarter. 333 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yanis keeps believing in his teammates. He keeps being 334 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: a great facilitator he has all season, and yeah, that 335 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: paid paid off when those guys came out and Yannis 336 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: was on the bench and they win by fourteen points 337 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: in those minutes. You just think that when you know 338 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: and his and the story has been when those guys 339 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: haven't produced this playoffs, that they lose those minutes when 340 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: Yanis on the bench, and so maybe I just got 341 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: to play forty eight. That has been a discussion. But 342 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: you know, to win his minutes by double digits last night. 343 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: It just just shows that this team is just They 344 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: might start the game slowly, that's what they do. I 345 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: don't know. Yanis is like a Lebron light. I mean, 346 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: he just he starts serious slowly. He starts like his 347 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: team starts game slowly. But then yeah, they come on firing, 348 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: and you know, going into that second half and into 349 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,239 Speaker 3: the fourth quarters like this, this team was almost unstoppable. 350 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: If you can give it to Chris, and then you 351 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: can give it to Drew who looks like a totally 352 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: different player, who looks, you know, so confident out there 353 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: when he's got it going on, and then and then 354 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: Chris can do it, and then Yannis can do it. 355 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: How could they stop him there late? They they couldn't. 356 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: Even though they won that four the Suns won that 357 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: fourth quarter, it did seem like, you know, especially because 358 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: it's a road game. If you're up six, eight, ten 359 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: points in a road game like that, you're kicking ass. 360 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: And they did. And it came down to you some 361 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: free throw shots because Yannis is definitely tired. He didn't 362 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: have to take a tinkle like he did in Game 363 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: number four, but he was gassed I mean he was 364 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: walking up the floor multiple times. Van Gundy said it 365 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: multiple times on the broadcast. He looked tired. He's sort 366 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: of taking plays off, letting the other guys do it. 367 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, he put that confidence and he's still instilled 368 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: that confidence, and year over year over year it hasn't happened. 369 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: But now here in year eight, they gave up the 370 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: whole kit and kaboodle for Drew Holliday and it's obviously 371 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: pay enough. Finally they're up three to two here with 372 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 3: the chance to go home and win it. And it just, 373 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: I know momentum doesn't carry from game to game, but 374 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: we're seeing the same sort of story here in games three, 375 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: four and five. They're bigger, they're stronger, they can board more, 376 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: and they can defend incredibly well and get get more 377 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: opportunities and turn guys over. And when they're winning by 378 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 3: like that on the road, it just it feels like 379 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 3: there's no real chance for the Suns to rocket unless 380 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: unless one of those other guys comes through with a 381 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: big one. It can't just be Booker and that offense 382 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 3: is obviously it's good enough to win a lot of 383 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 3: regular season games and a lot of playoff games, but 384 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 3: when you're when the other team is rolling like that, 385 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 3: I just couldn't watch Devin Booker go you back to 386 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: the same well over and over and over again, like 387 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 3: everybody else was just standing there watching. You're getting three 388 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 3: near thirty per point performances from one team, and everybody 389 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: else just kind of you know, well, we'll see, we'll 390 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 3: see what, we'll see what book does. But it's just 391 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: it's not a recipe for winning when the other team 392 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: is rolling like that. As good as book was, he 393 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: was fricking incredible. To go back to back forty points 394 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: and lose both games never happened in the finals, but 395 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 3: not everyone was getting involved, right, am I the only one. 396 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: Totally totally right. First quarter is what it should be 397 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 4: like for the Suns. Booker was great in the first quarter. 398 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 4: I think he was five for nine, but there was 399 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 4: also a bunch of three pointers hit by the rest 400 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: of the Suns as well. Crowder hit two, Bridges hit one, 401 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 4: Craig hit one as well. DeAndre Ayton had a couple 402 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 4: inside went two for two, just on easy plays where 403 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: the ball was moving, and as the game progresses, sometimes 404 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 4: it feels a little bit like Booker's just got to 405 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 4: go out there and try and score one on one, 406 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 4: and it feels like that's what he's trying to do. 407 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 4: His playmaking is really dropped off in this series. He 408 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 4: had six assists in each Game one and Game two. 409 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: Since then, he's been three to three and three. Basically, 410 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 4: I might be three, three and two. I'm not looking 411 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 4: at the game log right now, but he's got to 412 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 4: step his play making up, and Chris Paul honestly has 413 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 4: to be better. Booker sat for six minutes in the 414 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 4: second quarter, and that's basically when the lead went way 415 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 4: for Phoenix, and that was Chris paul is out there, 416 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: and he had a nice game like he ended up 417 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: what twenty one and eleven I. 418 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: Think, right, yeah, it did nineteen shooting, hit three threes, Yeah. 419 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure fine, And he was getting hunted on defense 420 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter to the point that they actually 421 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 4: had to hide him eventually. That's not a good look 422 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 4: for the Suns. Their backcourt has to be their two 423 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 4: best players out there, and right now Middleton is equating 424 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: or canceling out what Devin Booker is doing, and Drew 425 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 4: Holliday's out playing Chris Paul. I mean, you know, the numbers, 426 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 4: maybe not back it up totally in Game four, but defensively, 427 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: Drew Holliday is bringing a lot more to the table 428 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: than Chris Paul is right now, and especially in Game five. 429 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: Offensively he was there. Chris Paul really needs to take over, 430 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 4: like in that second quarter. He should be the guy 431 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 4: getting everybody involved. They shouldn't be a worse offensive team 432 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: when Chris Paul's running the show. 433 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about that? 434 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 3: Lee? 435 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you looked at the Bucks score of this game, 436 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: you say DeAndre Ayton had twenty and ten, Chris Paul 437 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: had twenty and eleven, and Devin Booker had forty. The 438 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: Sun shot sixty eight percent from three point rangs I 439 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: shot fifty seven percent from the field that had eight 440 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: turn I was like, oh, they must have hadbsolutely pound 441 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: at their opponent. But it's just so misleading because that 442 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: first quarter the ball was moving around, and Booker talked 443 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: about it, and Chris Paul talked about it, and Monty 444 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: even talked about it, and you could see it in 445 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 2: that sort of second half as the Bucks sort of 446 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: you know, really built that lead and solidified it. It 447 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: felt like Phoenix didn't trust what had gotten them to 448 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: this point of the season, and that is that ball movement. Instead, 449 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: it was kind of like, well, I guess Book is 450 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: going to go out there and do it. And he 451 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: did in the sense that he gave his team forty points, 452 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: but it was almost like the Bucks are like, well, 453 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: if he's going to try to just you know, do 454 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: all the scoring, we can kind of roll with that 455 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: because they're at their best. The Son's a bit like 456 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: the Bucks when it and Bridges had a great shooting game. 457 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: He just didn't get enough of the ball really himself, 458 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: so they weren't sort of running what they have done 459 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: to get themselves to be such a good team. And 460 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: so that now is really what the question is going 461 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: to be for them in game six is how do 462 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: they approach that. Do they say, well, Book is great, 463 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: we know he can go out and get us forty 464 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: or instead, is it like we need to get that 465 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: ball moving around. I mean, I think they finished with 466 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: twenty three assists again, which is not a bad number. 467 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: It's not like it was only ten assists. So the 468 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: ball was moving, but a lot of that was sort 469 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: of front loaded. I think it was just when they 470 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: got out to that good start and maybe a bit 471 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: of complacency crept in. I'm not sure, but they did. 472 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: Skeetz. 473 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: As you mentioned there, that lead evaporated oh very. 474 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: So fast, and the point was like, well, did I 475 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: miss a couple of baskets? 476 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: The what the hell happened? Yeah? 477 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: And Yannis as well, you know, he was happy when 478 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 2: it's like they're rolling right now. You know, he wasn't like, 479 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 2: get me in, get me in. It was like the 480 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 2: team's playing well enough without him. So again, that just 481 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: shows that he's all about winning. He doesn't he doesn't 482 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: have to be the one who gets all the headlines 483 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: and all the attention. And that's a great sign for 484 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 2: the Bucks that their leader just wants to win. It's 485 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: not about, you know, give me all the stats and 486 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: all the highlights. I just want to win the game. 487 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: So this, you know, Mike Budenholz, he must be. I mean, 488 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: if he hasn't got a burner account or do ready 489 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: to forget to go on Twitter, that he's going to 490 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: start them up in the next day or so because 491 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: he has copped so much. Look, they played badly again 492 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: the Miami Heat, and I can't remember I don't think 493 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: any of us actually picked the Heat, but a lot 494 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: of us are like, I don't even know if they 495 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: can get past the Miami Heat. Started off badly, ended 496 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: up really destroying them. Started off awfully against the Brooklyn Nets, 497 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: to the point where they were so close, like within 498 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: fifty seconds of being down three to zero in that series. 499 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: They come out of that and then the Landhawks. I 500 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: mean that was different that the Hawks got that first victory. 501 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 2: I don't think we thought that it was like, you know, 502 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: the Bucks can't come back, and they did. Obviously some 503 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: injuries came into play as well, but now they're in 504 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: a position as well after those first two games is 505 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: like the Bucks have got to do something very very 506 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: quickly to turn this series around. And now they've turned 507 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 2: it around so much. I mean the task You've usually 508 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: got the stat if you win game five, I know, 509 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: it's around eighty two percent I think to go on 510 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: and win the series. 511 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: Twenty nine times in the NBA Finals, the game white five, 512 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: winner of a two to two series goes on to 513 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: win it. 514 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, and after all, yeah, and after what we've 515 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 2: seen of these last two games, like I just feel 516 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: that Milwaukee understands, like we know how to score on 517 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: this team. And we know that, you know, it's not 518 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: just about Jannis having to do it all and a 519 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: couple of times you know where he sort of gets 520 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: that little run up and he's going downhill and he 521 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: just does a little zigzag. That's money for him anytime 522 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: he wants it. So I got wipe the Tuesday not 523 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: it's going to be a mighty it's incredible. 524 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you're setting it up nicely. I know we'll 525 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: do our deep dive, our Game six preview on Tuesday's 526 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: podcast in the morning the show. But you know, how 527 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: are you feeling tasked as someone who had Bucks and six? 528 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: Are they going to incredibly pull this off after losing 529 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: the first two and some of them in heartbreaking fashion 530 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: and possibly close it out? Or do we have more 531 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: basketball we played? I mean, the toughest thing to do, 532 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: of course, is to end the series. It's tightly contested 533 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: between these two teams. You know, they're both pretty damn 534 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: good teams. They both in Game five shot the lights out. 535 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: What's your gut say, is like, is it still going seven? 536 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: Can the Bucks close it out on Tuesday night? What 537 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: do you say? 538 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: It feels like the Box have it. They feel super 539 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: confident with coach bud Is rolling out a lineup in 540 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: the middle of the game that hasn't played one minute 541 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: together throughout the whole year. They've never been on the 542 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: floor together. The super duper size lineup of brook Lopez, Jannistetokompo, 543 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: PJ Tucker, Oh No, who am I missing? Bobby Portis, Yeah, 544 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 3: Middleton right, yeah, Brookie, Poorty, Middleton, Tucker, and Yan. It's 545 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 3: like that's a manstrous lie. I just think that they 546 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: feel obviously super confident. I mean, the ball for the 547 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: Suns has to be in Chris Paul's hands way more 548 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 3: for them to win. We're talking about a team that 549 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: has two stars they're supposed to Those are the guys 550 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 3: that have to carry the team. And Chris Paul's playing 551 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: like just hanging out in the corner for much of 552 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: this game. And I'm going to bring it up because 553 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 3: it needs to be brought up. I don't know if 554 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: Chris Paul's one hundred percent, No one's a hundred percent. 555 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 3: But he's looking at his hand. He's looking at his 556 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: left hand a lot, and he doesn't, you know, shoot 557 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: with his right hand. He doesn't usually dribble with this 558 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: right hand, but he doesn't go to the crossover. He's 559 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: looking at that hand anyway. I just think there's no excuses. 560 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: But I wonder if it's really bothering him. He's still 561 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 3: like you guys have said. I mean, it was a 562 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: good stat line. But if he's going to win this 563 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 3: series alongside his other star, he has to he has 564 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: to carry them. He has to hold the ball. That 565 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: is Chris Paul's job. I mean, he has to not 566 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: only those to get himself off, but to get everybody 567 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: else involved. It's not books thing. You know, Booker has 568 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 3: been better at it, and Trey said, you know, he 569 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 3: has dropped off a little bit. But yeah, if they're 570 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: going to win Game six on the road, when the 571 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: Bucks are feeling pretty good as they should, it really 572 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: has to be more Chris Paul. I mean, I don't, 573 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 3: I don't don't we don't we know Michael Bridges and 574 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: Jay Crowder or anybody on the branch isn't going to 575 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 3: take you to the Promised Land. It's just not going 576 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 3: to happen. Chris Paul has to be uh has to 577 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: be better. So yeah, of course the Bucks have to 578 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 3: feel super duper good. 579 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 4: Right now when you go to the Steakhouse. You got 580 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: to get staked. Chris Paul stopped being catch up buddy, 581 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: and I think we need to see forty eight minutes 582 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 4: from Devin Booker in Game six. Can you imagine in 583 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 4: the takes if it was Mike Budenholzer who rested Giannis 584 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: for six minutes of the second quarter and the team 585 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 4: completely blew the lead. That's what happened for the Suns 586 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 4: last night. That was a major box job, I thought 587 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 4: by Monty Williams, just resting Booker there as the offense 588 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: totally cratered and you lost the huge lead you had 589 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 4: just built. That was a tactical mistake, a weird challenge 590 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 4: late when the ball was out of bounds. I think 591 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: Giannis he stepped on the baseline right after he got bumped. 592 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 4: Weird foul call challenge. I mean, they went through the 593 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: charade of icing Giannis, which did work, but you know 594 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 4: he's got to get the rebound at that point. Some 595 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 4: weird decisions from Monty Williams, And if that was Mike Budenholzer, 596 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 4: the takes would be flying right now. I want to 597 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: give you the Dwayne report real quick. Least nightly. It's 598 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 4: been a busy weekend over here, nine pm. Tip. Dwayne 599 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: started the game in bed, started the game in bed, 600 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 4: but then he heard who was it? Drew Holliday hit 601 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 4: the first bucket of the game. I think in this one, no, 602 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 4: the same as I gotta watch some of this one. 603 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: Bucks won the tip again, by the way, yeah yeah, 604 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: but the Sun scored first and the Box won, So I'm. 605 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: Not Bucks scored first eleven three. I'm looking at Drew 606 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: scared this guy, come on going. 607 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 4: Dwayne wakes up. He's like, I gotta see part of it. 608 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 4: But then, obviously things did not go well for Milwaukee 609 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 4: in the first quarter, so he went upstairs, said good 610 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: night to Laura, second night to Janna, came back down 611 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: shocked the game was closed, got back into bed. He's like, 612 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: things are going better when I'm not watching it, but 613 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 4: I hear him the rest of at least the first 614 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 4: half sounds like things are going pretty good. 615 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: At wait, he's lying in bed listening to the TV 616 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: that you're watching the game in the other room, and 617 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: he's like, still reacting to it, Oh my god. 618 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 4: Pretty much. He's loving the way it's going. Eventually fellas asleep. 619 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 4: I'm out on the porch having coffee this morning, knock 620 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 4: on the sliding door, thumbs up, draw his job. What 621 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 4: he tells me, I was thinking about googling who won 622 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 4: the game last night, but then I figured I just 623 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 4: asked so them Box pulled it out and now they're 624 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: thinking of extending their stay until Tuesday's game. 625 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to rock the boat exactly. 626 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 4: Things are going well since they've been here. 627 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: That's a good point. They went in a lot of 628 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: games since they made drip down from from the Midwest. Okay, 629 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: there's Wayne report. 630 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this. 631 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: I have to get him on the show for you. 632 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to know if if there's any way 633 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: the bus can sort of overtake the Packers as his team, 634 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: because the Packers haven't won it for a while, and 635 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: you know, there's a bit of chaos I believe around 636 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: the Packers right now. Yeah. Yeah, so maybe uh maybe 637 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: he'll he'll change the instead of to go by. 638 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to do it. He's doing four arm rights, yeah, 639 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 4: Brett Farm Now he's gonna have to go thirty four 640 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: for Yannis. 641 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: If that's hilarious, that's good. Also, good news, Tray that 642 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: you're sitting out on your front front porch and enjoining 643 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: the front porch coffee from the get go amazing stuff. 644 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: You know what, when you. 645 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: Bought your house, somebody asked you can you imagine? You say, 646 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: I can imagine myself having a coffee here, and you're 647 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: actually following through on that respect. 648 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 4: Dreams become reality exactly, right. 649 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Skates, he sorry has that WhatsApp chat going where everyone 650 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: was upset at the Bucks in six calls, like. 651 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: Right, been awfully client, I gotta yes, they have the thing. 652 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: It's great. Pointly didn't think of that. Yeah, they were 653 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: upset with the Bucks and six call after winning game three, 654 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: right after winning one game. Yeah, but they might be right, 655 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: and Tassi was you know, Tassy sort of dug their 656 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: heels at your heels in two with this thing not 657 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: being over after the first two games, I think we 658 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: all were saying that. 659 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: I was wishy washing. I was wishy washing. I mean, 660 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: the Suns looked so good in those first two games. 661 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 4: M M. 662 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: I know Yannis comes on late, but no, I thought 663 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: I thought the Sun's had this after two games for sure. 664 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: I sure didn't see Milwaukee winning three straight here. This 665 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: has been really impressive, and like again, it's like Middleton 666 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: is their closer, like he like he caps these games 667 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: because you can't. That's not honest. And it seems like 668 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: he's completely fine with that. You know he's gonna get 669 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: don't worry. I'm gonna get you thirty to forty and 670 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: basically ten to fifteen rebounds. And I'm gonna still set 671 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 1: up guys. And I've become better at that. But I 672 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: can't be really given the ball in a close game 673 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: and operate, go to work, Go get a bucket, go 674 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: hit a jumper, step back. It's just not him, of course, 675 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: but they got Middleton, and he's been doing it over 676 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: the last little bit. And of course True was awesome too, 677 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: don't don't get me wrong, especially throwing the upe. But yeah, 678 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect on Tuesday Night. I 679 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: still think it could go sevenly, I mean I really do, 680 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: because they're you know, who's to say the Middleton ferrist 681 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: Wield doesn't hit the bottom or it's down there and 682 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: he has a stinker. I mean he could uh and 683 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: seem for Drew. It's not that far fetched to see 684 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: this one's still going seven. Of course not I'm Thursday night, yeah. 685 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: Of course not. And and the bucks have to close 686 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: it out, and this is, you know, a tough thing. 687 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: Jannis was asked about it after the game, and he 688 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: was trying to just not get too far ahead himself. 689 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: I can't remember asked him about, you know, what's it 690 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: going to be like, you know, in front of your fans, 691 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: and he's like, well, let's just take it step by 692 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: step to get there first, you know, we've got to 693 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: rest and recover. And he wanted the burgers and French 694 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: fries after the game because he was hungry. He also 695 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: said he was dehydrated as well during the game. 696 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 3: You have to leave the podium because he was ramping 697 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 3: like crazy after the game and he had to leave 698 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: and then come back. 699 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: Maybe he so fostered before the game because he didn't 700 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: want to do it during the game, fastering for Bill. 701 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, I was kicking a piss taking it right 702 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: before performing. 703 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So maybe he was. Maybe 704 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: he was worried that, you know, if he drunk during 705 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: the game, he would have to leave the game at 706 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: some point, so he didn't drink, and that's why he's 707 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: getting dehydrated. So he can't win right now. He's either 708 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: you know, has to come out early to have a 709 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: pet or he's dehydrated throughout the game, so I'm not 710 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: sure how he figures that out. 711 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 4: But play with the catheter. 712 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, DA would have some advice for him. 713 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: For that, Trey, what do you think of again? We'll 714 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: do the deep dive on Tuesday's morning show, But of 715 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: a potential Game seven or is Milwaukee? Is this destiny 716 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: here that they're going to after a couple of years 717 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: losing four in a row to the Wraps and the 718 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: Toronto going on to win the title, that they're going 719 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: to do the exact same thing here and do it 720 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: again for the second time this postseason. Happened in the 721 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Net series. 722 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 4: That's a good call, first and foremost seen this question 723 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 4: a few times. Will Brandon Jennings be at five serve 724 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 4: in Game six? I should to Swiss Rivera. My sources 725 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 4: tell me that's the plan, is that he actually does 726 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 4: plan on being there. Actually told me this scheme. Oh 727 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 4: wow wow, yeah yeah, yeah, it was an Instagram source. 728 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 4: The most reliable of success. Are we going to Game seven? Baby? 729 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 4: I would guess yes. I think we're gonna get the 730 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: best performance we've seen thus far from the suns, and 731 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 4: I think that a lot of the reason we've seen 732 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 4: Phoenix struggling in these last three games that their bench 733 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 4: really has really been pretty bad. The second unit has 734 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: blown the lead almost every single time, and they just 735 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 4: haven't been nearly as good as the Bucks tiny second 736 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: unit and the blended things that they're throwing out there. 737 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 4: And I don't think that's gonna be a problem as 738 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: much for Phoenix. In game six, you're going out playing 739 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 4: your guys as many minutes as they can possibly handle, right, 740 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 4: like Chris Paul, Devin Booker, they should be playing forty 741 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 4: five plus maybe forty eight depending on how the things go. 742 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 4: So if that's the case, I think the starters can 743 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 4: play the starters a lot closer, in which case, sure, 744 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 4: we're gonna go back to Phoenix for game seven and 745 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 4: then we're gonna have another classic. 746 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 3: But it's strange though, definitely play your guys, which as 747 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: possible in Middleton. Yeah, forty two might jump up, But 748 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: the last three games for Chris Paul like teetering in, 749 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 3: like the thirty three, thirty four to thirty five minute marks. 750 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: It's it's strange he sits for. 751 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: He's the soul why, Yeah, I know the season's down 752 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: to the final couple of games. Seriously, I'm with you. 753 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: I do not think it's going to be that far 754 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: fetched that as soon as the series does end, be 755 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: it in six or seven on Thursday night, I think 756 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: we could get the my hand's been broken from Chris 757 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: Paul here or something along those lines. I don't think 758 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: it's that far fetched that think we get something like that. 759 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 4: Did he get hit on the hand or something. 760 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, last series, he came out of the last series 761 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 3: with apparently it was I don't know if it was 762 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 3: broken or something, but yeah, there was a report that 763 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: there's something going on with his left hand. 764 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 765 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, it's forty one to 766 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 4: close out the series though. 767 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he had an awesome Game one, So 768 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: that's your your in this series. 769 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 3: So it's weird. 770 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 4: But he's look, he's just playing bad. To me, he 771 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 4: just looks like he's not playing bad. In the the 772 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 4: intensity of Drew Holliday's defense is throwing them off and 773 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 4: getting picked up the entire time. And then when it's 774 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 4: Jeff Teague out there, Jeff Tegue is just running into 775 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 4: him like Jeff Teague is put out there just run 776 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: into Chris Paul as much as you possibly can. 777 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, mine, Monty just isn't feeling Chris Paul for heavy minutes. 778 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: I mean, he's sitting for that second quarter for so long. 779 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 3: And maybe it's because he's old, but I mean, you 780 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 3: have so many days off. I think, yeah, Monty's not 781 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: trusting him. And on the other side, Coach Bud gotta 782 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 3: give him a little credit. Didn't trust Jeff Tigue in 783 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 3: that second half after his first half minutes, didn't play 784 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: him second in that second half. You know he's going 785 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 3: to some you know, the crazy big lineups and stuff. 786 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 3: And uh yeah, I think Coach Budd is somehow the 787 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 3: buttons he's pushing, they're all they're they're they're all working 788 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 3: together right now. But yeah, obviously this is a close series. 789 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 3: In game six, it could be a different story. I 790 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 3: am going to make a change for Game six because 791 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 3: going back to that WhatsApp chat for a second, I 792 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: was watching the fourth quarter pretty close to my bed. 793 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 3: I was on my phone on a mobile phone actually 794 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 3: in my closet, watching on the game time app in 795 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 3: my closet after I showered, because Danielle asked me, Hey, 796 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: can you can you shower like before the game is over, 797 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 3: maybe at half or something, so you can just slip 798 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 3: into bed, so I don't go up and shower post 799 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: game and wake her up. 800 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: How much noise. Yeah, because you're a pre you're a 801 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: pre pre bed shower guy. 802 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 3: Most sometimes sometimes sometime weekends. Yeah, because I don't get 803 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 3: a workout in, just get sweaty and then uh, and 804 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 3: then I don't shower till the end of the day. 805 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 3: So I flew in there end of the third quarter, 806 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: and I had the Game Time app going in the 807 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 3: in the shower. No problem watching the game in the shower. 808 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 3: I had a good time. But then I just sat 809 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 3: there sitting on my butt in the closet for the 810 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 3: fourth quarter, and then the wat's app messages coming through, 811 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 3: just blocking the entire screen. Basically I had to flick 812 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 3: get out of here, Dave Grisham, get out of here. 813 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: Dan Angele's I'm trying to watch a game here. But 814 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 3: people were people were pumped obviously seeing uh, you know 815 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 3: what the bucks were doing, and then the free throws, 816 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 3: and I would. 817 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: Be the conversation, Oh, I know exactly, like the Sons 818 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: have a chance to win this game. I mean it's 819 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 1: up in the balls in Booker's hands. He's got another 820 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: forty go in. They've somehow come back. They were down 821 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: like ten late. They're in it, and you know, amazing play. 822 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: Like I think he went a little too far in there, 823 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: Joannis cut him off, Tucker obviously was there, and then 824 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 1: Drew just perfectly timing it. He turns around and suddenly 825 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: Drew Holidays just picking his pocket and also like the 826 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: picking of the pocket there the steal. It just like 827 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: it perfectly went up in the air to two Holiday, 828 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: Like that thing could have gone anywhere, right, yeah, but 829 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: it just goes like perfectly right in stride for Drew 830 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: Holiday to go the other way anyway. Awesome play. But yeah, 831 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 1: let's say Booker hits the fade away, hits the shot, 832 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: they win this game. They're you know, they're up. It 833 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: looks like they're gonna win the title. And we're talking about, uh, 834 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: these crazy lineups from Bud. We're talking about Giannis can't 835 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: come through at the free throw line. I mean he 836 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: was four of eleven rights. 837 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: He's last three. 838 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we're talking about like, oh, they could have 839 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: closed the door and they did it. It's just amazing, 840 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: just one possession really just changes like a million narratives 841 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 1: in the blink of an eye, including with the WhatsApp chats. 842 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: Everyone suddenly changing there too. 843 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 2: Grish, I mean last night after the first quarter, I mean, 844 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: was he like, all right, you know it's over. 845 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you, I'm telling me he's learning. 846 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: He's learning after watching basketball for twenty years that a 847 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: fifteen to sixteen point lead in the first quarter means 848 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: dick shit in this game, it doesn't. So no, because 849 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: I watched the first half with them. I actually got 850 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: screwed by Atlanta traffic last night. I missed. I had 851 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: to rewatch a bunch of the start of the third quarter. 852 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: Thought I could get home from Midtown to my house 853 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: in fifteen minutes. You know, people are back, They're out 854 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: on the streets of Atlanta, and if you've ever been 855 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, nothing moves quickly here. And there's about a 856 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: million car crashes because people can't drive. So yeah, it 857 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: was a I should have had it up on my 858 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: phone task so I can't encourage that much and don't 859 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 1: encourage driving, so I couldn't find it on the radio. 860 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 2: I don't have serious so yeah, yeah, yeah, I think 861 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 2: there is the on the NBA app, but before that, oh, 862 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: never do they never find I could never find it 863 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: on the radio, which I hate it because sometimes you know, 864 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: for like earlier in the playoffs, if you're drive and 865 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 2: I will just put it on the radio because I 866 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: love listening to sport on the radio. Yeah, it's awesome, 867 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: but I found it very hard to find otherwise. I mean, 868 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm streaming it through the app when I'm listening to 869 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 2: it on the radio. 870 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: So you think we should have a designated AM or 871 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: FM channel AM for basketball AM radio? 872 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 2: AM radio is the sport radio channel? Yes, we don't know. 873 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what what call it? Or number? 874 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 2: Do you want? Ninety three nine? But okay, yeah, seven 875 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: seven four yeah the round number, old mate. I'm just 876 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to there's a number in his try 877 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 2: a seven to seven four three. Ill load the sound 878 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 2: of some of the sound cricket. That's who I used 879 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 2: to listen to. 880 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 4: One thousand. 881 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 3: There's the Chicago first. Did start getting into how many guys, 882 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 3: how many teams have had three thirty points scores in 883 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 3: an NBA Finals game? He just starts going that way, 884 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 3: and then he and then and then you go and 885 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: then he starts talking one. 886 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 4: Thirty point scorer last night, anybody. 887 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 3: Got close, he was disappointed. 888 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 4: Let him get to Let him get too before you 889 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 4: start asking about three. 890 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 3: I think half of the the fourth quarter, Wat's APT 891 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 3: messages were. 892 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: Like, well, he's got twenty seven. 893 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 4: We're gonna get there. It's gonna be three thirty four. 894 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 895 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 3: And then he starts talking about finals MVP's youngest Finals 896 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 3: MVPs and I and I wanted to confirm this. He asked, 897 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 3: you know, who is the youngest finals MVP besides Magic 898 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 3: doing it? You know, with no Kareem in the lineup, 899 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 3: and Kareem was injured, who is the second youngest guy? 900 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 3: And Trey Trey got it right, Although there's there's three 901 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 3: go ahead. 902 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: I actually don't remember seeing this, but was it Kawhi. 903 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 3: Kawhi is Yeah, second, he's really close to another former Spur. 904 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tony Pokh No, no, oh, Duncan. 905 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 3: Duncan Yeah, ah, nice Duncan. Then Magic again would be 906 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 3: the fourth youngest, and then oh wow, yeah, and then 907 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 3: Kareem with the Bucks, then Tony, then Duwayne Wade and 908 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 3: Dennis Johnson. 909 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: So there's a so there's a lot, I mean honest, 910 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: is gonna well, actually, let's do it to her before 911 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: we read Yeah, yeah, yeah, where Oh he was saying 912 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: if book He's saying if Booker and the sun was yeah. 913 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 3: See he was feeling that's that's Grish getting excited. We 914 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 3: got a fourteen point late, sixteen point late, it's over. 915 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. Yeah, you guys saw Jannis's 916 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: incredible quote heading into game five. Were you talking about 917 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: the past and the future and trying to live in 918 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: the moment, be present? That's a that's the opposite, opposite 919 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: of my buddy Grish. He is definitely wanting to talk 920 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: about the future and the big narratives and what this 921 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: all means. Just tough for him to live right there. 922 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: And that's second of that game. But TK, as we 923 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: wrap up our game five, talk here Finals MVP power 924 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: rankings after five Where does it stand? At least top three? 925 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 4: Well, for the first time ever in the finals this 926 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 4: year's skeets. I actually made a written list, okay, so 927 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 4: I could have it written down forever. Here it is. 928 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 4: There's only one name on it. 929 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 2: WHOA. 930 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 4: The power rankings are Giannis. He is the clear cut 931 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 4: Finals MVP after five games. If you want to make 932 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 4: a power rankings list, you would add Chris Middleton at 933 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 4: number two. Okay, I don't think you're putting a third 934 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 4: person on the list. I didn't want a second person 935 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 4: on the list, but if you had to, I think 936 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 4: you're going with Drew Holliday. His defense on Chris Paul 937 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 4: has changed the series a little bit, and Chris Paul 938 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 4: was leading on the list early on after the first 939 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 4: two games, So turning him off and getting the game 940 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 4: going offensive, I think elevates Drew Holliday to number three. 941 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 4: Though I was I was thinking about throwing a bone 942 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 4: to Pat Conaton, as you know, like the Danny Green 943 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 4: sort of Finals MVP vote there leading the Finals in 944 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 4: three pointers made, and he's been a difference maker almost 945 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 4: every time he's been on the court, starting in Game three. 946 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, not only just threes. It feels like it comes 947 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: up with a crazy tipote or a big rebound. Every 948 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: time the Bucks needed he's he has been fantastic for them. Yeah, 949 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: So back to radio for a second. Who's Hubie Brown 950 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: given to the Finals MVP two? 951 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 3: Like? 952 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: Could Middleton get it from from Huby? 953 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: I think it's possible. Yeah, Drew, Yeah, Drew you know, 954 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 2: he does love those hustle defense players as well. And 955 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: I think Drew is leading Middleton in that category because 956 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 2: he had that early one in the game where he stole. 957 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 1: It, uh from Booker. 958 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 2: It was of book Yeah, and he was said he 959 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: just pulled up and hit a three in his face. 960 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 2: I mean, so yeah, I think I think Drew's probably 961 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,280 Speaker 2: got the Hubie vote. I would say, hard to see 962 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: really who so yeah? I mean Brook Lopez just hasn't 963 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 2: had any moments. 964 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 1: You know, it's the honest winning. I think I think 965 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: Tk's list is right. I think Bookers may be there 966 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: if the Suns, obviously, yeah, win this and seven and 967 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: I think you have the hell of a case to 968 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: win the thing. But we will see. All right, we 969 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,479 Speaker 1: will again do a deep dive on Tuesday's show. Let's 970 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: take our first break, and then we got some juicy 971 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: news to discuss. All right, back with No Dunks here. 972 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody joining us live right now on 973 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 1: the stream team here on YouTube doing big numbers here 974 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: on a Sunday morning. So if you haven't already subscribed 975 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: to No Duks on YouTube and smashed that like button, 976 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: got some juicy I'll call it NBA News here, Damian 977 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: Lillard says reports that he has requested a trade are 978 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: not true. But but but but He went on to 979 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: say that he didn't think the Trailblazers are currently title contenders. 980 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: Quote this is Dame. If you look at our team 981 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: as it is, I don't think you can say this 982 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: is a championship team with a new coach. End quote 983 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: that's Lillard, Lely you go for what do you make 984 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: of this? You know true? Hoop was saying, Damian Lillard's 985 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: going to request a tree. Now Deem shut that down. 986 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: But man took some shots. I think Neil ol Cherry and. 987 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 2: The Blazers absolutely and I don't think Damian Lillard really 988 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 2: shot this down completely. I think he fired a couple 989 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 2: of bullets up in the air and was just like, 990 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 2: that's good enough because. 991 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: He just shot the gun in the air and now 992 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,439 Speaker 1: these bullets are at a four. 993 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, basically he did. He shot a water pistol at 994 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 2: at at this report really because he said right now, 995 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Going to 996 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: do that to me is not someone saying it's not true. 997 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 2: And this is coming by Henry Abbott as well. His 998 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 2: True Hoop website a very reputable name in the business. 999 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 2: So for him to go out there and say that 1000 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 2: Lillard will last for a trade in the near future, 1001 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 2: hedging a little bit of course on the time there. 1002 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 2: I don't think he would put that out there if 1003 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 2: he didn't have very good information saying that this is 1004 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 2: what Lillard is starting to think about it. And again 1005 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 2: in that article written by Brian Windhorse, there there's so 1006 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: many more little nuggets of information coming from lil that 1007 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: it's like I might be actually asking for a trade. 1008 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: I think not only is the team perhaps not really 1009 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 2: a contender in Portland, but all this stuff that's come 1010 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 2: out recently with how Neil o'sha went with a private 1011 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 2: investigator to talk to find out about the Chauncey Billups 1012 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 2: incident from back in nineteen ninety seven. That looks terrible 1013 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,439 Speaker 2: now on old Shae. I'm not going to go into 1014 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 2: the details right now, but if you're a basketball fan, 1015 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've read about it that the private investigatort 1016 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 2: was very, very questionable with his social media use. And 1017 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 2: I think these sorts of things for Lillard are all 1018 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 2: sort of coming together where he's like, I'm not sure 1019 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 2: I want to be a part of this organization because 1020 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: A I don't think we're going to be a championship contender, 1021 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: and B I'm not sure you know this has been 1022 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 2: handled the right way with how they've hired Chauncey Billups. 1023 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 2: So I think there is definitely some smoke there, and 1024 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 2: I'm very interested to see how the next month plays 1025 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 2: out of though Lillard will be in Tokyo for most 1026 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 2: of that for the Olympic, so this is I'll be 1027 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 2: I would say lill had being in a Blazer's uniform 1028 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 2: next season about seventy thirty at this stage. That's my guests. 1029 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 4: Well, wait, which is the seventy. 1030 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: Seventy is Portland? Yes? 1031 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Trey, what'd you make of this? 1032 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 4: It just seems to me like Damian Lillard is in 1033 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 4: a tough spot right now because we saw the way 1034 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,919 Speaker 4: that the end of this season went down. They lost 1035 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 4: to the Nuggets missing their second best player. Meanwhile, the 1036 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 4: Blazers were almost the healthiest they had been the entire season. 1037 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 4: Like a terrible way to end the season. The offseason 1038 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 4: doesn't seem to have gone much better for Portland, and 1039 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 4: if Dame hadn't been the guy who was most adamant 1040 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 4: about staying in one place and being committed to the 1041 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 4: grind and trying to win a title for a small 1042 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 4: market team. Nobody would blame him for wanting out because 1043 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 4: that's kind of what kind of how things work in 1044 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 4: the NBA right now. Right Like, you play for your 1045 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 4: team for a long time, and if you're not able 1046 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 4: to actually be a championship contender, eventually you're gonna look 1047 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 4: for somewhere where you can. But if you've kind of 1048 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 4: made your reputation on saying I'm not leaving, it's tough 1049 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 4: to ask to leave. So right now, he's putting pressure 1050 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 4: on niel O'Shea or maybe the Blazers ownership to say 1051 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 4: neil o'she, you're out of here, And maybe he's just 1052 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 4: saying to nil O'shee, if you're the guy, I don't 1053 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 4: know how likely that is. We need to try something 1054 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 4: new because running CJ. McCollum and use of Nurkic as 1055 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 4: the number two and three that ain't gonna cut it 1056 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 4: in the Western Conference again next season. So I'm sure 1057 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 4: we're gonna keep hearing from Lillard he's going to the Olympics, 1058 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 4: where he's gonna be a major part of Team USA. 1059 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 4: He's gonna be asked about this all the time until 1060 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 4: something has happened, even if what he wants to be 1061 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 4: doing is talking about playing Olympic basketball. 1062 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, Tas, I think Lillard was making it 1063 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 1: pretty clear yesterday or a couple of days ago, whatever 1064 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: it was. You either take a big swing right now 1065 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: and like we we take a different direction with this roster. 1066 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: So whatever that means, you know, trading McCollum, trading Nurkice, 1067 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: or you know you're gonna have to start looking at 1068 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: trading me, it's gotta be one of the other. Like 1069 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: we're doing some things differently here. Now, that's how I'm 1070 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: reading into what he had to say. Obviously all the 1071 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: reports coming from True Hoop and others. 1072 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 3: But what about you, Yeah, I'm with you. I think 1073 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 3: he's spent a decade there, And yes, exactly what Trey said. 1074 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 3: If it wasn't for him saying I want to be here, 1075 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 3: I want to be here. I want to be here, 1076 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 3: I want to be here, we probably wouldn't be, you know, 1077 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 3: all riled up about it. And you know, he took 1078 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 3: some of the indirect heat from Chauncey Bilbs for saying 1079 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 3: he liked Chauncey Billips, and I think that's sort of 1080 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 3: worn on him. You know. You know people have tried to, 1081 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 3: you know, tried to get him out of there, tried 1082 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 3: to to to you know, make Dame a part of 1083 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 3: the Chauncey Billips story. When he just said he liked 1084 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 3: Chauncey Billips, I think that's bothered him. And you know, 1085 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 3: the bigger thing is that they have it won. So 1086 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 3: he's thirty one. You know, they need they need to 1087 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 3: make a move. That's That's really what it comes down to. 1088 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 3: I doubt Chauncey Billbs is turning this team around from 1089 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 3: a twenty ninth ranked defense to middle of the pack 1090 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 3: type defense with the same personnel. There's personnel problems. And 1091 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 3: if Olsha doesn't change that, then Dame take that seventy 1092 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 3: and make that, you know more like forty sixty forty 1093 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,399 Speaker 3: Portland sixty. God, they gotta make a big move. They 1094 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 3: have to. 1095 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is not okay with the status quo. It's 1096 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: no doubt about that, Lillard, but he also said he 1097 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 1: expects to be in a Blazer's uniform next season. He 1098 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 1: wants to finish his career in Portland. He set all this, 1099 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 1: and of course he's acknowledging his chances or his desire, 1100 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 1: I guess to win a championship. But it ultimately is 1101 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: going to come down to is that which one is 1102 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: he going to desire more? Is it just to stay 1103 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: in Portland or is it to win a championship. He 1104 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: wants it to happen there, but if he has no 1105 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 1: trust in the GM and the direction of the team, 1106 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: then to me Lee, he's saying, well, then eventually I'm 1107 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 1: going to have to do what I want to do 1108 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: to win a title. And if you can't do it 1109 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: here and you can't put the pieces around me that 1110 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: I think to help our chances to get there, be 1111 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: it a coach and the players, then peace out. But 1112 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 1: for right now, I'm just telling you, pressures on, get 1113 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: your shit together and make a move like this will 1114 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: not be the same Blazer's team, whether it's Deem is there. 1115 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: And that's a whole other question, like should they ate now, 1116 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 1: like cash it on Deem? That's fascinating, Like do you 1117 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: just like, Okay, we don't love our chances to get 1118 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: a second or third star here with the pieces we 1119 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: have to put with Dems, so do we just take 1120 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: our completely different director. But anyway, he is saying we 1121 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 1: got to do something, and this is going to be 1122 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: a different team. I think at the start of next year, 1123 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: I think Dean will be there, but there's gonna be 1124 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: some drastic changes. 1125 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know Lillard as is. Look, he's gotten 1126 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 2: into it a bit with Paul George in the past 1127 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 2: on social media and said, you know, you're always out 1128 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 2: there chasing, you know, off the grind and all that, 1129 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 2: and Lillard I think is very careful to make sure 1130 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 2: that he's not seen to be ring chasing himself, you know. 1131 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 2: I think that's just part of who he is. He 1132 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 2: doesn't want to be that guy. But you don't also 1133 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 2: want to be too stubborn and too loyal for your 1134 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 2: own good. If it ain't happening in Portland, Lillard can 1135 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 2: go somewhere else, and I don't think anyone would realistically 1136 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 2: hold it against him because he's given so much to Portland. 1137 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,399 Speaker 2: He's brought them, you know, as far as he can 1138 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 2: bring them. So if there's an opportunity for him to 1139 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 2: go somewhere else and play with some better talent and 1140 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,800 Speaker 2: win that championship, I think he should do whatever he 1141 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 2: can to get there because otherwise, you know, Kevin Garnett 1142 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 2: talked about it, he spent too long in Minnesota, you know, 1143 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 2: and that loyalty that we always talk about. Teams will 1144 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 2: trade you when they think you're past your best and 1145 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 2: they can get better return for you. And I think 1146 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 2: if you're Lilard, you should be starting to think that 1147 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 2: same way yourself. It's like, okay, you know, I can't 1148 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 2: do any more here. They haven't got much wiggle room either, 1149 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 2: like with their salary cut. That's the problem because Lillard 1150 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 2: earned so much and McCollum's earning a ton and I 1151 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 2: think it's nurkic. You still got a year, I believe 1152 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,720 Speaker 2: on his deal. So it's not like a free agent 1153 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 2: is sort of just there that they can go and grab. 1154 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 2: It's not a great free agent class anyway. So the 1155 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 2: only way is really going to come as if they 1156 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 2: trade CJ for some incredible haul in return. Other than that, 1157 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 2: this Blazer's team is probably going to look very similar 1158 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 2: next season. And if it is, then they're not a 1159 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 2: legit title can tender. 1160 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: Would you wouldn't hold it against Lillard at all if 1161 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: he came out tomorrow and says trade. 1162 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 2: Me like I want on here, Like no, I wouldn't, No, 1163 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. It's the same with a Kevin. 1164 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: Called me for like ten years. How you don't want 1165 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: to be treated and you can bring a title there 1166 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 1: and you're the guy to do it. 1167 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 2: Yep. 1168 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: So what you just had a change of heart. You're 1169 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 1: allowed to change your mind get in the first round 1170 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 1: because you weren't that good either. 1171 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 2: Look I look, if look, look, if Damian Lillard did 1172 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 2: something like Vince did to get out of Toronto where 1173 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 2: he basically just quit on the team, then it's a 1174 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 2: different story. But Lillard, Lillard has gone out there and 1175 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 2: fought and scrapped and done everything he can. Right, and 1176 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 2: he's been there. What ten years has he been in 1177 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 2: the league now, I think it was twenty. 1178 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 3: Years eleven finish nine years. 1179 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 2: This will be his I think Lillard has given absolutely everything. Now, 1180 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 2: you know, he also took that massive contract they offered him, 1181 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 2: so he was understanding that, like, Okay, he got his 1182 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 2: money and he's got I think three years left on 1183 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 2: that deal. 1184 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: So can you win a title with Lillard as your 1185 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 1: best player at this point of his career. 1186 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 2: I think he can yeah, but he needs again, CJ 1187 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,919 Speaker 2: is the second best player and then it's a big 1188 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 2: drop off after that. That's the problem. But you know, 1189 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 2: I just don't I wouldn't be like, I know Blazers 1190 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 2: fans would be furious, it'd be burning his jerseys if 1191 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 2: he said trade me off, because that's the normal reaction 1192 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 2: from the team fan base. But when Kevin Durant left, Okay, see, 1193 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 2: I know it was different because he was a free 1194 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 2: agent and he joined you know, the best team ever 1195 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 2: in terms of regular season success. Like it's like, but 1196 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 2: he gave so much to your franchise, it's fine for 1197 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 2: him to move on. Because again, if an offer came along, 1198 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 2: Let's say, hypothetically the Bucks said we want Lilid, we'll 1199 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 2: give you Yarnis. You know, the Blazers would get rid 1200 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 2: of Lilard in two seconds. So yeah, so the point 1201 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make that obviously wouldn't happen. But the 1202 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make is the team would move 1203 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,240 Speaker 2: on if they felt they were getting better in return. 1204 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't be I wouldn't hold it against Lillard 1205 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 2: for being like, all right, let's see what's out there 1206 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 2: for me and Lillard's at about that point of his 1207 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 2: career right now, where you know, he's probably not going 1208 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 2: to get any better. This is his absolute maximum that 1209 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 2: you could get in terms of a trade hold back too. 1210 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 2: So if he goes, if he goes to the front 1211 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 2: office and says, all right, you trade me and let's 1212 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 2: see what massive return you can get for me, I'll 1213 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 2: be happy with that. You know, then I would be 1214 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,720 Speaker 2: fine with it. But you know, I know fans are crazy. 1215 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 2: They'll be like, ku Lee Little is a Blazer for life. 1216 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 2: But he doesn't have to be. 1217 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 1: Right right right, No, it's fascinating and we're gonna this 1218 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: ain't gonna go away for sure, Yeah, until moves are 1219 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: made and then we see it on the floor and 1220 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 1: and if they can get back I guess to the 1221 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 1: Western Conference finals. I mean they've lost in the first 1222 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: round TK what for in the last five seasons. 1223 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 4: And the other one was a conference finals appearance, right yeah, yeah, right, 1224 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 4: very weird exactly. 1225 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: It's just yeah, on one hand, you're like, my god, 1226 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: if you traded Damian Lillard for whatever you got back 1227 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of picks, maybe some young guys, You're like, well, 1228 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:56,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna be worse, But then you can sort of say, well, yeah, 1229 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: but can we really be much worse, because like, could 1230 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: we still be a playoff team and still lose in 1231 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: the first round. Maybe It of course depends on who's 1232 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: coming back. 1233 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 4: I mean, it depends on who is coming back. But 1234 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 4: my guess is if you trade Lillard, that's not the 1235 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 4: only move. It's probably a complete rebuild if Lillard is 1236 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 4: on the move. So the Blazer surely would rather catch, 1237 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 4: would rather keep him, Which is why the names are 1238 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 4: going to be hearing until it happens. Is CJ. Mcollum 1239 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 4: for Ben Simmons, Like these are the two guys who 1240 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 4: seem to be in the crosshairs for both of their 1241 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 4: franchises right now. Obviously McCollum and Simmons both have big contracts, 1242 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 4: so they can bring a big contract back. Is that 1243 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 4: enough for Damian Lillard Ben Simmons? I mean, Lillard then 1244 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 4: would not have to handle the ball quite as much. 1245 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 4: I don't think he's a massive off ball thread. I 1246 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 4: think that's somewhere where Damian Lillard can improve. You know, 1247 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,800 Speaker 4: he gets compared to Steph Curry all the time. Nobody 1248 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 4: is Steph Curry away from the ball and that's somewhere 1249 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 4: where certainly Lillard could step his game up. The defense 1250 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 4: would be better with Ben Simmons there instead of CJ. McCollum. 1251 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 4: You would actually have somebody who could occasionally guard one 1252 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 4: of the myriad good guards who are in the Western Conference, 1253 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 4: which would probably help. But then you're also taking on 1254 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 4: the Ben Simmons problems that and everything that will come 1255 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 4: with that eventually in the playoffs. 1256 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, just a couple of comments here. Lee 1257 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: Ruddock says, if you Lee Lillard is a Blazer fan 1258 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: for life. We got Josh saying Lee Lillard is a 1259 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 1: Blazer for life. This guy says, f uh dot you 1260 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: Lee Lollard is a Blazer for. 1261 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 4: Lollard, Lee Lollard. 1262 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, we'll be talking about this, I'm sure some 1263 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: more here in the upcoming months. 1264 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 1265 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: Well, Lillard's on TSA. He's still there for now. They're 1266 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 1: still going to be going to the Olympics, but got 1267 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: some changes. As our final piece of news nugget, center 1268 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 1: JaVale McGhee and Spurs forward Keldon Johnson have taken the 1269 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 1: open spots on tm USA's twelve man roster for the 1270 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: Tokyo Olympics. The two replaced Kevin Love, who with drew 1271 00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 1: because he wasn't at his quote absolute peak performance or 1272 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 1: his words, not mine, and Bradley Beal, who was forced 1273 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 1: to drop out of the Olympics after entering the health 1274 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: and safety protocol earlier this week. So Javeail McGhee and 1275 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 1: Keldon Johnson, who I saw people that I thought were 1276 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: pretty die hardish basketball fans asking. 1277 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 2: Who are Twitter? 1278 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: My surprise a little bit, But yeah, Trey, you are 1279 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: American here. What do you think of these additions to 1280 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: your squad? 1281 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 4: Team USA more like Team WHO. Essay, I've never been 1282 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 4: the blinky guy harder than when I saw Javail McGee 1283 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 4: was added to the Team USA roster in twenty twenty. 1284 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 4: What you know he protects yeah, twenty twenty one. Yeah right, yeah, 1285 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 4: I'm still the twenty twenty Olympics as far as I'm concerned. 1286 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 4: If you're looking at him as a player type, he 1287 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 4: protects the rim, he doesn't need the ball. He's got 1288 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 4: international experience. I personally once saw him win an inter 1289 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 4: squad scrimmage between Team Usays with a sudden death tip 1290 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 4: in during overtime because they didn't want to play a 1291 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 4: full overtime. That's good stuff. But he's played six hundred 1292 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 4: minutes this year total. That's very strange to me that 1293 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 4: JaVale McGee would be the guy that they call in, 1294 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 4: especially after Greg Popovich said they wanted somebody who was 1295 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 4: in shape. Six hundred minutes of NBA basketball and not 1296 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 4: much in the playoffs strange. And then yeah, Kelvin Johnson, 1297 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 4: if you look at him as a player type, a 1298 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 4: role player, he defends, he rebounds, he had a big 1299 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 4: beef this year. He attacks the hoop, and another big 1300 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 4: part of this is that he already has had a 1301 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 4: solid camp for Team USA, and of course he's in shape, 1302 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 4: which was not a problem for javal McGee. Nonetheless, excellent stuff, 1303 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 4: but this feels like the biggest homer pick since Greg 1304 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 4: Popovich's last homer pick when he took Derek White over 1305 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 4: Darren Fox in twenty nineteen. Meanwhile, Trey Young is basically 1306 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 4: out here tweeting, I'm not sure why they didn't pick me. 1307 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 4: I would be fine with like literally either one of 1308 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 4: these guys, Kelvin Johnson or Ail McGee and then Trey Young. Right, 1309 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 4: But right now with the team here, it's like major 1310 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 4: what are we running here vibes from Team USA, So 1311 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be operating at a nine on the worried 1312 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 4: scale until the end of the Olympics. This I don't 1313 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,479 Speaker 4: know this team. I'm I'm just not getting good vibes 1314 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 4: from this team. Something weird is gonna happen. I don't 1315 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 4: know if that means a bronze or what task. 1316 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: What do you think? 1317 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a there's seriously a weird level. I'm 1318 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 3: not in the worried nine out of ten. I'm more 1319 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,439 Speaker 3: of the strange nine out of ten situation because guys 1320 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 3: are dropping off like crazy. But when it comes to 1321 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 3: the fit of these guys, I think it's totally fine. 1322 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 3: I think Kelda Johnson at least is practicing there. They 1323 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 3: didn't just pick him off, you know, the scrappy. They 1324 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,480 Speaker 3: didn't go to San Antonio to his house. Knock knock, knock, Hey, 1325 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 3: can you come out here. He's been called up from 1326 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 3: you know, from the from the second team to play 1327 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 3: with these guys. And he's a guy who will get 1328 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 3: the ball and b line it for the hoop, straight 1329 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 3: line drive. He's he's the Corey mcgaett he had this team. 1330 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 3: He's not going to be asked to do anything but 1331 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 3: drive to the hoop, take it hard to the hole, 1332 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 3: and go board. Yeah, he's he's a guy who can 1333 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 3: help out the centers if he does play with the rebounding. 1334 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 3: He's rebounds way bigger than his size. And that's that. 1335 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 3: I mean, he's not going to be asked to do anymore. 1336 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 3: And you kind of just want that's what we've been 1337 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 3: asking for. A ball mover. Let the other guys score, 1338 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 3: Let the other guys do their thing. Do JaVale McGee 1339 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 3: think you know, in a if you look at and say, 1340 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:32,440 Speaker 3: Jerval McGee, sure, then maybe, just maybe because he doesn't 1341 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 3: play all season long, he is a guy who knows 1342 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 3: how to stay in shape when he's not playing, and 1343 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,440 Speaker 3: maybe he isn't shape. Maybe they know that, and I 1344 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 3: would assume that they know that before giving him the 1345 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 3: call up. He's going to be the third center. He 1346 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 3: is going to be the guy that, yeah, comes in, 1347 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 3: mops up, doesn't do anything but play some d and 1348 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 3: moves on. So it's really it's on the other guys 1349 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 3: to me to be great, But it is, you know, 1350 01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 3: it's a couple of role players that they've added and 1351 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 3: as long as they stay in those rules of role players, 1352 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 3: then I think it will be it'll be fine. And then, 1353 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 3: you know, the weird part getting back to that is 1354 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,439 Speaker 3: that there's still guys to come from the finals. There's 1355 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 3: still three dudes to come from the finals when the 1356 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 3: game start in a week with them, Booker, Middleton and 1357 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 3: Drew Holiday, and obviously they'll be in game shape. But 1358 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 3: how will they gel with the other guys? That's that's 1359 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 3: the real question. 1360 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: Lee, anything to add. Must be feeling good about your boomers' 1361 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 1: chances here to meddle. 1362 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 2: And what about the opals? Also getting's team, Yeah, yeah, 1363 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 2: we might sweep the basketball medals actually in Tokyo. Now 1364 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 2: we might get gold in both. So no, look, Jervail, 1365 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 2: Look he was out of the league, I don't know 1366 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 2: five years ago, completely out, and the Warriors picked him 1367 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 2: up and he actually rehabilitated his reputation in Golden State, 1368 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 2: picking up a couple of those championships by sort of 1369 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 2: growing up, maturing and understanding a role. And he did 1370 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 2: the same thing with the Lakers. He played well, So 1371 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 2: he's a you know, he's certainly not the player he 1372 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 2: was when he was a bit of a clown. In 1373 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 2: his early days, but just to sort of wreak a 1374 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 2: little bit of desperation that the Mighty USA he has to, 1375 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 2: you know, pull in Javail McGee to play for their 1376 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 2: basketball team. 1377 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,240 Speaker 1: So I don't get why Kevin Love was ever on 1378 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: this team sort of begin with what was going on. 1379 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: They literally were like just like, let's see if you're 1380 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: in shape, Like, let's see how you're feeling. 1381 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 3: I mean, he's injured. I That's what it comes down 1382 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 3: to him. And we say Javal McGee is going to play. 1383 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 3: I don't think he's really going to play. I think 1384 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 3: he's going to be there to to be a raw, 1385 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 3: raw guy and emergency break glass in case I like, 1386 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 3: like he has been the last couple of years. Really 1387 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 3: probably right, he's the third center. 1388 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: We'll see Draymond Green and Bam are the other centers 1389 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: on this team. It could be minutes there for Javal McGee, 1390 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 1: for sure. There's a lot of big dudes. We've talked 1391 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 1: about national squads. There's some giant seven foot guys, and 1392 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 1: Javail is a big guy. So we'll see what he 1393 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: can give him. He's for now on this team, and 1394 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 1: again the Olympics start in well, what at this point. 1395 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Ben Friday Night, Ben Gulliver is already out 1396 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 2: there in Japan. He's ready to go. 1397 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Oliver on the scene. You getting get buying 1398 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 1: him some lego while you're there. 1399 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 2: Uh that we've been exchanging a few messages. Oh yeah, 1400 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's uh, he's looking at other and of 1401 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 2: my stories and thinking it's pretty cool. So maybe we'll 1402 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 2: come here together. There's a couple of dudes and just's. 1403 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 1: Leg and that's pretty cool. You're looking at his stories. 1404 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: He's in Tokyo. You're going, that's pretty cool man to 1405 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 1: swap spots. 1406 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah we could. 1407 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, then Ben Gulliver would suddenly have a family that 1408 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,400 Speaker 1: he would have all right. So yeah, we'll see with 1409 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Team USA how they fare with the Olympics starting next week. Okay, 1410 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 1: still got tweeted the night. Got some fun, fun photos 1411 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 1: and videos to show you guys, But one more break 1412 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 1: to hear from our sponsors. Time for tweet of the night. 1413 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 3: Tweet over night. 1414 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: Wow, I actually have a bunch of tweets for you guys, 1415 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: a lot of them coming by way of at CJ zero. 1416 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 1: We purposely avoided talking about the Phoenix Suns fans there 1417 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 1: at the start of this show, because that who features 1418 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 1: prominently in our tweet of the night, Matt Ufford retweeting 1419 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 1: with a funny caption a CJ zero video it was 1420 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and two degrees in Phoenix today, but nothing 1421 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 1: was stopping the Duke of Scottsdale from wearing his velow tonight. 1422 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Yet that that Jack guy in that I guess purple 1423 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 1: maroon velvet jacket busting at the seams. Perfect measurements from 1424 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 1: Indo Chino on that one. 1425 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 4: So I also saw somebody say that this was Guy 1426 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 4: Fieri in the darkest timeline if he never won Food 1427 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 4: Network's ne'st the biggest star. 1428 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 1: It's really good. So that was one good fan. We 1429 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: got more again at CJ zero. We've got the green. 1430 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that wave, Oh yeah, I mean that's that's great. 1431 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 2: He got that green wig and he's bringing the energy 1432 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 2: in a motion. That's if you're gonna go green wig, 1433 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 2: you might as well go like this. Credit for that 1434 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 2: guy ten out of ten. 1435 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: Okay, but probably the fan in Phoenix that got the 1436 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 1: most attention during Game five definitely the most camera time. Yeah, 1437 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 1: what was that the money man? This guy counting one 1438 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 1: hundred dollars bills, I think tasks. While Jannis was at 1439 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 1: the line, they went back to him a couple of times. 1440 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 1: Were you a fan of this of this strategy? 1441 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,960 Speaker 3: This is Merrika baby for no reason. Let's show this 1442 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 3: guy counting money. I mean it's it's hilarious when he 1443 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 3: hits the basket. That's the funniest. When the money man 1444 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 3: gets deflated, that's right that he should have to. 1445 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Like give Yannis one hundred dollars or something. 1446 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just weird, like he pulls up the 1447 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 3: same ten bills every single time and count the same bill. 1448 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 1: It's bit he was leaning into it. 1449 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're counting man, keep going like you've still 1450 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 4: got the bills in the hand. He always gets to 1451 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,600 Speaker 4: whatever ten or twelve, whatever the last number is, and 1452 01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,959 Speaker 4: then just hits you with a I love the mix 1453 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 4: of he's wearing the Lee Ellis Western Conference championship shirt. 1454 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 4: That was hilarious as well. But I love him taking 1455 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 4: it to the next level, Like it's fun to do 1456 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 4: the counting during games one and two, but you got 1457 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,439 Speaker 4: to go to the next level when you come back 1458 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 4: for game five. This is taking it to the next 1459 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 4: level too. Good too good. 1460 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 3: I mean he could be smart, you know, like like 1461 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 3: people who want to show that they've got a lot 1462 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 3: of money. You put the hundreds on the outside and 1463 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 3: you make a big fat stack by putting the fives 1464 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 3: and the ones on the inside, Like you you could 1465 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 3: screw it people. 1466 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: What do you think? Lee? 1467 01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm just like confused as to how this bit ends 1468 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 2: with him, Like you're just keeping the money yourself, Like 1469 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 2: you've either got to be betting with somebody exchanging that 1470 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 2: might even if it's a fix. You know, just have 1471 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 2: your friend there who's like, all right, I'll take that 1472 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 2: bet and there's ah right, I lost. You take it 1473 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,120 Speaker 2: if he misses. But if you're just counting money. 1474 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,400 Speaker 1: You sound like a real money mellis right. 1475 01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 2: I'm just like, like, I mean, photo that Western Conference 1476 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 2: shirt by the way for him, I mean, was that 1477 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,240 Speaker 2: a freebie? But old money man's got the money out, 1478 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 2: so he's running the free shirt and then he's out today. 1479 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 4: I thought that wretch saving non essential get your shirts 1480 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 4: for free and stat cash. 1481 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just was confused. I thought, Okay, this is 1482 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,160 Speaker 2: something new, where's it going? And then it just didn't 1483 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 2: go anywhere? And I'm like, oh yeah, you didn't think 1484 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 2: this one through. I don't think you just well, maybe 1485 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 2: he didn't think he was going to get on camera. 1486 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. But like all this sort of stuff 1487 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 2: is like, what though, what you didn't win, you didn't lose. 1488 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 2: You're You're in exactly the same spot whether or not 1489 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,640 Speaker 2: Yannis made the free throw or miss. So what was 1490 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,679 Speaker 2: at stake for you? 1491 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 1: You're overthinking it right now. I'll tell you that. 1492 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 2: Let's go with the green week next time. 1493 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,519 Speaker 1: I actually know, I actually have the true tweet of 1494 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 1: the night. I saw it this morning. I thought it 1495 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,719 Speaker 1: was great. It was Yannis posing looking at the camera 1496 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 1: and the caption from at by Demon Gardner when my 1497 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 1: wife asks me to open a jar and I get 1498 01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: it on the first turn, Its air it into your 1499 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 1: soul looking like a badass TK because he got that 1500 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 1: jar of pickles open. 1501 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 4: You got that jarra pickles. I bet Jannis is actually 1502 01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 4: very good at opening things. Oh, I don't know. I mean, 1503 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 4: is there a point of too much hand at some point? 1504 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? You honest, we know has 1505 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 4: monster hands. What if he's trying to open a tiny 1506 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 4: jar of corner stone pickles or something like that, and 1507 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 4: he says, hand gonna wrap around the whole thing. He 1508 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 4: can't get a grip. I'm unsure, but I would be 1509 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 4: willing to risk it with the honest. Hey, man, can 1510 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,840 Speaker 4: you open literally anything? Can you open this thing of 1511 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 4: garlic stuffed olives? Yeah? 1512 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 3: Sure, have one if you want, all right, Yeah, I 1513 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 3: think the jars get the jars. He just has fun 1514 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 3: with it. I mean it's too easy for him. I 1515 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 3: think I think he just puts like the heel. He's like, okay, 1516 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 3: you want to open that. He just puts like the 1517 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 3: heel of his visa, his hand like he's I'm like 1518 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 3: a Bernard King when he came into the studio and 1519 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 3: he showed us how to spin on a desk, like 1520 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,679 Speaker 3: he just does that. He's like, I don't. My hand's 1521 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 3: too easy to open the star I love. 1522 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,800 Speaker 1: Just like wraps one finger like that like a pop 1523 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 1: pops it like that. Anyway, great tweet there from by 1524 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,720 Speaker 1: David Garner. That was a that was a cool look there. 1525 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 1: That was after the actually what was that place after that? 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