WEBVTT - #37 Put a Ring on It

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, baby, hell I Suck at Dating with Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa and Jared and I heard radio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining all of us on another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of help by Suck at Dating. I'm Dean Anglert, joined

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<v Speaker 1>in studio by Easton Erica and one other lovely human

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<v Speaker 1>being who is not here last week because he was

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<v Speaker 1>busy doing other things in a different country on a

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<v Speaker 1>television show we're all very familiar with, Jared Haybond. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me back. I missed you, guys. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a long week without you. Welcome back, buddy, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to be back. Not that we have any interesting

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<v Speaker 1>news to cover on your end, I know your life's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much the same as it was before you left, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the same. Nothing has changed. Okay, Well for the listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, there was one little thing. I'm so sorry

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<v Speaker 1>I completely forgot. I got gay amazing all right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so obviously we're gonna spend a little bit of time

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that. If you don't lines, I don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>at all. We can talk anything and everything. Um. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So for the listeners that's maybe aren't quite as aware.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared and Ashley made a trip down to Mexico to

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<v Speaker 1>cameo on Paradise. Yeah, so we went to a Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>in Paradise last week and we were doing a cameo

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<v Speaker 1>and Ashley's I was convincing Ashley that we were just

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<v Speaker 1>there for a cameo, but we ended up getting engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's pretty much and that's all I can talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a good day, thank you very much, Okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna need a step by step for all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>And and as I tweeted out, I'm a little upset

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<v Speaker 1>with you because before you left for Mexico, I was like, Jared, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how I see it playing out of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna bring you down at the date card. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna send you on a day to your own, which

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like it didn't necessarily happen. But then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ask Ashley to marry you in Paradise. You're like, dude, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna happen. I would tell you if it

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<v Speaker 1>would happen. And I understand you have to keep it

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<v Speaker 1>under wraps and keep it a secret all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, but tell us kind of how this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing unfolded, and obviously you know Spare that he saies

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<v Speaker 1>that you can. I understand you might not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to share everything, but so pretty much. Also, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, Dean because I didn't want a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people with the Bachelor family to know, because I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make this as much of a surprise for Actley

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. So I don't want you to take offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you so much and I would have loved

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it, But we talked about engagements two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago on the podcast, and I felt super uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>because you were like, when's a good time to promose, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>when are you going to propose? In the back of

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, I knew I was proposing that week, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know, I will see it

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<v Speaker 1>down the line. And then I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>caught onto it, but you were like, how long should

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<v Speaker 1>someone date before you get engaged? And I was like months,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And what's funny is you were you

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<v Speaker 1>were answering those questions so like ambiguously that I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>something's up here, like something's about to happen, but I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can press you on it. I guess because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really know well enough. But you called it because

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<v Speaker 1>after the podcast ended, you were like, you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>engaged on you, and I was like, Dean, so soon,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to get engaged this quickly. And then

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<v Speaker 1>because I would be crazy to get engaged that quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be out of your mind to get

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<v Speaker 1>engaged that quick Oh wait, oh oh, I'm doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting I'm getting down on one day. Okay, so continue, continue,

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<v Speaker 1>so pretty much listen. As soon as Ashley and I

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<v Speaker 1>started dating, we knew that this wasn't just a boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend thing, that this was a very long term and

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<v Speaker 1>happy relationship because it's just so easy between the two

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<v Speaker 1>of us. Ashlo says that she's had a boyfriend for

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half years that just didn't touch her,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was me. And so the thing is we've

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<v Speaker 1>been so close we know everything about each other that

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it's really not that quickly because it just

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<v Speaker 1>it feels more right. That's improper English, I'm sorry, but

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<v Speaker 1>this feels better than not being engaged to that makes

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<v Speaker 1>any sense, Like it just makes sense to be engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it doesn't. It doesn't make sense. To not be

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<v Speaker 1>with her. So but so it appeals both to the

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<v Speaker 1>logic side of things and the emotional side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was, while I was nervous about getting engaged Ashley,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just more anxious because I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this, and then that's really what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think there's any chance in any universe where

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<v Speaker 1>she said no to the engagement? Um? No, just for

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<v Speaker 1>the fact. I mean, when we were at stage coach,

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<v Speaker 1>she was even telling me, She's like, if you asked

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<v Speaker 1>me tomorrow's yes. I mean, she was dropping hints the

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<v Speaker 1>entire way once. I think she had an inkling when

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<v Speaker 1>we're going out to Paradise that this could potentially happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she wanted to reassure me that if you

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<v Speaker 1>do this, I'm gonna say yes, And so she was

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<v Speaker 1>just dropping hints. She even said a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago that, um, I'm not allowed to live with her

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<v Speaker 1>until we're engaged, okay, And I said, well, hypothetically speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>actually saying six months we're not engaged and we want

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<v Speaker 1>to move in together. She's like, well, pressures on you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, she's obviously dropping this hint to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, if you ask, I'm going to say yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so you better ask. I will say I love. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the whole story, um, mostly as it pertains to Ashley,

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<v Speaker 1>because she's been in the and I know we have

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<v Speaker 1>discussed this a little bit behind the scenes. Um, she's

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<v Speaker 1>been in bachelation for so long, having gone on Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Soul season and the Paradise one paradise to her season,

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<v Speaker 1>what Paradise two and three? I guess with you, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and not necessarily getting the story that you wanted going

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<v Speaker 1>on Winter Games, um. And how her life has been

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<v Speaker 1>so bachelor centric for basically three years now, and how

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<v Speaker 1>you know she's built such a name for herself within

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<v Speaker 1>this I guess world, And now for it to come

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<v Speaker 1>full circle to have you and her get engaged at

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<v Speaker 1>the place where you first met each other, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the happiest thing I could have possibly imagined. Four. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>when she gets a Neil Lane ring, she gets, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the engagement on the beach. She I would assume a

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<v Speaker 1>televised wedding if you guys decided to go to that route.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't even thought about that, being honest, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very fresh I guess it's a weekend. Um, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you handle the whole conversation with maybe your parents,

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<v Speaker 1>with asking her father all that kind of stuff before

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<v Speaker 1>Once there was an idea thrown out there with conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about potentially getting engaged in paradise. One of the first,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I called my parents first and said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of what's happening. I know it's soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get your thoughts on it. And actually

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<v Speaker 1>one of the so I talked to my parents about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously they said, it's your decision. We love you,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll back you up anyway anything you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But my mom was like, you also have to remember that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're not going to get another opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>like this ever again in your life. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in ten years, do you see yourself being

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<v Speaker 1>with Ashley? And I said of course, And she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>then why would you not do this? You know? And

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<v Speaker 1>then actually I talked to Tanner about it. Tanner my

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<v Speaker 1>little very godfather, um, and because he's had experience getting

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<v Speaker 1>engaged in paradise, and he said, listen to the proposals

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<v Speaker 1>for the girl, you know, and you have an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure he's like, listen, you're a very romantic guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure if you don't do it on paradise, if

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<v Speaker 1>you do it, you know, four or five months later

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<v Speaker 1>you'll come up with something very nice and very moment romantic,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be such a wonderful moment for both you. However,

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<v Speaker 1>you also have a chance to get engaged at the

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<v Speaker 1>place where you first met Ashley, like put the show aside.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is the beach you first saw Ashley,

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<v Speaker 1>where you guys met three years ago, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to give her the ending that she's always wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're nervous because it might be too soon, even

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<v Speaker 1>though you plan on spending the rest of your life

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<v Speaker 1>with this girl. It's like, that's just something you have

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<v Speaker 1>to factor it. And so after talking to my friends

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<v Speaker 1>about it for like an hour, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>one of my one of my thinking why am I

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<v Speaker 1>even hesitating? This is this is what I not only

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to do, but what I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do for Ashley. So and it was pretty romantic and cute.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that whenever you guys talked about your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>on or off the air in front of her behind

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<v Speaker 1>closed doors. It's like you were always talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>this is your forever person, how you know, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>plan on having kids once you guys get to that bridge,

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff, and so it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>it was always a foregone conclusion that the engagement was

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. And so I fully understand where you're

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<v Speaker 1>coming from. Where it's like, and I think it even

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to your first Instagram capturing you guys announced

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship, where it's like the second you want your

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<v Speaker 1>life to be with someone else, you want your life

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<v Speaker 1>to begin as soon as possible. Well that's a quote

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<v Speaker 1>from when Harry Mets Alley. So that movie is very

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<v Speaker 1>near and dear in my heart. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you're familiar with it. Are you familiar with The Dean? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, long story short, Billy, Crystal mcgrhand and the Stars.

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<v Speaker 1>They are friends for twelve years um before they finally

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<v Speaker 1>realize that they are meant to be together. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the end seen when Billy Crystal realizes, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>the love of my life is rained from my eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and she's my best friend and I need to do

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<v Speaker 1>everything I can to make sure that I end up

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<v Speaker 1>with her. He goes to a New Year's Eve party

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<v Speaker 1>where she's lonely and sad, and he comes up and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, Okay, I've been doing a lot of thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>and the thing is I love you. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>goes up and he's like, He's like, when you realize

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<v Speaker 1>who you want to spend the rest of your life with,

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<v Speaker 1>you want the rest of your life to start as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as possible. And that line was something that I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted. I say, I wanted to go to St.

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<v Speaker 1>Lucian and be like, Actually, when you're realize you want

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<v Speaker 1>to spend the rest of your life with, you want

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of your life to start as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that movie has been, uh, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>very influential and important in my life, specifically over the

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<v Speaker 1>past you know, six months, because it's just really been

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<v Speaker 1>you be close to my heart. You guys do a

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<v Speaker 1>great job of incorporating your favorite movies into your relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I think both actually and myself. One of the first

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<v Speaker 1>things we bonded over was the fact that I quoted

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry McGuire and she's like, you quote Jerry McCully looked

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<v Speaker 1>at dead in the eyes and he said, show me

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<v Speaker 1>the money. The money I did. Uh, I forget what line.

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<v Speaker 1>I did that one her over but it was just

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<v Speaker 1>an obscure line and and she was like, Holy Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm in trouble and uh. And so we quoted it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we started quoting rain Man. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>romantic comedies, so does Ashley. And so I've always idolized

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<v Speaker 1>the guys in the romantic comedy that can like fight

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<v Speaker 1>for the girl that they want, and like, yes, they

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<v Speaker 1>have made mistakes and they've done some dumb things, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at the end of the movie, they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, I need to go for it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>jump all in, fight for the woman I love and

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<v Speaker 1>so um. So that's why, you know, let's talk a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say, like, yeah, let's talk Neil

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<v Speaker 1>Lane for a second. Let's talk Neil And so Ashley's

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<v Speaker 1>might be strutting around, might not be strutting around with

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty fat rock on her finger right now? Can

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<v Speaker 1>we go through the decision process for the ring that

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<v Speaker 1>you chose? Are you allowed to talk much about the

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<v Speaker 1>ring at all? I can't talk too much about it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I can say is that as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it, it was obviously I was in conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about what I wanted, what actually wanted, and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out the best ring for everybody, typically the best

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<v Speaker 1>ring for Ashley, because that's the most important thing. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And as soon as I saw the ring, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was perfect. Um. It was everything I could have

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<v Speaker 1>possibly imagined. And I knew she was gonna love it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's actually being fitted right now. She's allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to wear it because the news is out. It was well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go to the story in a second, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's gonna we're going back on the East Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>We're visiting my family and right is and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go down to Virginia to visit her family. So

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna be wearing the ring, which is great. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to hide anything because the news came out

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<v Speaker 1>so quickly. I mean, I can talk about this. We

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<v Speaker 1>got engaged on Sunday and then Monday morning we woke

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<v Speaker 1>up and was like, oh, that's oh okay, that's me

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<v Speaker 1>on one knee. That is it's out there. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to hide anything, which is very you know,

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<v Speaker 1>refreshing and easy, but at the same time very surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that from the time that you guys left,

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<v Speaker 1>because from my perspective, all that experience was you guys leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>and then within even just a few days of you

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<v Speaker 1>guys leaving, I saw the news being published or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, that was really fast. Like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we had no idea it was gonna come out that fast.

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<v Speaker 1>So we flew on a Saturday and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday everything went down and then Monday morning bought a

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<v Speaker 1>bing bat a boom. I don't know, like, holy moly, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we I guess we can talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. I don't think you wouldn't not

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<v Speaker 1>be allowed to share this aspect of the post engagement thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But can you share the FaceTime that you had or

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<v Speaker 1>the video that was sent to you specifically but you

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<v Speaker 1>and Ashley as well from one of your favorite I

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<v Speaker 1>can't talk about that, you know, you are What Dean

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<v Speaker 1>is alluding to is something that you're going to just

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<v Speaker 1>have to watch on Bachelor in Paradise. They're gonna air

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<v Speaker 1>it though, oh yes, and if they don't air it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I will be more than happy to talk at

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<v Speaker 1>length about it. Well, I think we'll all forgot about

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<v Speaker 1>about it by then. He's a funny guy, that is

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<v Speaker 1>a gentleman. Engaged. I never thought i'd see the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. It's so crazy. It's weird when people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations on your engagement. It's like, oh my god, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm engaged because I still sometimes even not in a

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<v Speaker 1>bad way, but it's just so crazy, right, you wait

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<v Speaker 1>your entire life to be engaged and then it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's here. That was the craziest part about proposing,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, this is holy moldy, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>most the moment that you've all been that you've waited

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<v Speaker 1>your entire life for the be all end all. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the only time you're ever gonna do it, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no pressure. Um, but but it's cool, like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes uh actually be like oh I love my boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, well, I'm not your boyfriend fiance. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just weird even saying But the good thing is we're

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<v Speaker 1>taking it slow. We're not sure when we're gonna get married.

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<v Speaker 1>We say within a year, uh no later The next summer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because we want we don't want a very long engagement.

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<v Speaker 1>We want just kind of, like, um, long enough, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to be engaged. We want to enjoy being fiance's,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't want a two or three year engagement.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps maybe exactly one year when you're back in Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>in June of two thousand nineteen. We'll see first, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we'll see, we'll see what happens, We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what the future has a store. But right now, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just really happy. We're kind of soaking in the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we're fiance's enjoying the momentum. What a wee can happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's it's it's so it's so fresh. It

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<v Speaker 1>also just feels like it's so crazy to think that

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<v Speaker 1>I've only actually dated Actuley for you know, four months

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<v Speaker 1>or so right about now, because it feels like I've

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<v Speaker 1>been with her for forever, if I'm being honest, but

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<v Speaker 1>in a good way, because it's still that lustful, puppy

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<v Speaker 1>love um, playful type relationship. But it also feels like

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<v Speaker 1>I've you know, been with Ashley for my entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you have mentioned something about the East Coast

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<v Speaker 1>and her wearing her ring out out east. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>have you guys seeing each other's parents in person post engagement? No,

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<v Speaker 1>just FaceTime. So we've as soon as it was funny

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<v Speaker 1>because we thought we were gonna have, like we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about at least a couple of weeks before we before

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<v Speaker 1>the news came out. Uh. And so we went back

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<v Speaker 1>to the hotel and we FaceTime my parents, her parents, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a couple of our close family and friends,

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<v Speaker 1>but dany um. But it was just honestly, four or

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<v Speaker 1>five facetimes. We're like, all right, we just gotta FaceTime

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<v Speaker 1>these people talk about it and then we can go

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<v Speaker 1>to bed because we were just exhausted after the day

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<v Speaker 1>and then thinking we had a couple of weeks before

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody knew, so we had plenty of time

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<v Speaker 1>to call everybody, face time everybody. And then Monday morning happened,

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, oh boy, and it was funny because actually

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted out She's like, I haven't even told my grandmother yet. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had, you know, we had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people texting us and being like, what the hell, why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you tell me? Like, oh, we well, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise for Ashley. I didn't want it to get out,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we didn't think it was gonna be out

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<v Speaker 1>so soon. So next steps for you? Guys? You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't live together until you were engaged. Yes, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>is that on the horizon. Have guys talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>at all? We've talked about that. So Ashley just got

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new place um with her sister Lauren, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think we're probably gonna wait till u fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably sometime in the fall, I'll move in. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more months. Um, But her face, because her

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<v Speaker 1>apartment is still so fresh, it's she's not even done

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<v Speaker 1>moving in herself. So I don't want it to I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to bombard her at all. So we'll wait.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll wait a couple more months, and I'll probably move

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<v Speaker 1>in there and I'll be the next step in our relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna vent to say that Ashley began

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<v Speaker 1>shopping for her wedding dress the second she got back

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<v Speaker 1>from Mexico after meeting you the first time. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that she has begun her wedding dress shopping.

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<v Speaker 1>I know for a fact that she's had people reach

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<v Speaker 1>out and she's definitely had conversations. Okay, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she's looked at any particular dresses. The thing is, Ashley

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<v Speaker 1>has watched Say Yes to the Dress for years. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched Say Yes to the Dress now because I'm dating her,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm engaged to her and so um, so she's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>had people reach out and talked to her, and she

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<v Speaker 1>has an idea of what kind of dress you wants.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's very exciting and still very new. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>the cool thing is it's it's while it's very exciting

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all these outside factors about planning a wedding

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<v Speaker 1>and what's going to happen, dress and where and blatta

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<v Speaker 1>bladah blah, it's just built on such a strong foundation

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<v Speaker 1>between Ashley and myself, um that it's very very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark my words. I'm gonna put a hundred dollars down

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<v Speaker 1>on this that Jared at his wedding, while standing on

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<v Speaker 1>the alter altar will be wearing a Superman T shirt

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<v Speaker 1>under as tuxedo. Uh, I'm gonna rip that thing open

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<v Speaker 1>when she's walking down the aisle. It's gonna fantastic. And

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<v Speaker 1>then her dad is quickly, just gonna turn her around

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<v Speaker 1>and walk her down the other way, and I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>bite Ashley, no, um unless she cry. There were there

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<v Speaker 1>were tears. So she cried. She cried a lot. She

0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.600
<v Speaker 1>was she cried a lot. Um. It was just a

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<v Speaker 1>very emotional moment that all of you guys will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to witness, which is weird just say, um. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a really it was a special moment

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted. Yeah, I can't really talk too much

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<v Speaker 1>about it, but um, there were a lot of tears.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just crazy to think that I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>propose to the love of my life on the beach

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<v Speaker 1>where we first met. Like, that's the crazy part to

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<v Speaker 1>me is when we were when we were on the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>I just kept thinking, Wow, three years ago, three years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>we met at this exact bar. I'm seeing you walking

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<v Speaker 1>down the stairs with your sister Lauren, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you remember, that was the season that her

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<v Speaker 1>and her sister came in together. And to think three

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<v Speaker 1>years later, I'd be getting down on one knee on

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<v Speaker 1>this beach with Ashley. Uh, It's pretty cool. Pretty cool,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Jed, One more question for you, right after

0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys announced your relationship, you're you, and actually I

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<v Speaker 1>asked you a question that you dodged a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask you again and hopefully you can give

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit more of a clear answer. How

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<v Speaker 1>is the sex damned? Um? I don't want to dodge

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<v Speaker 1>it because I don't want to sound like God. This

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<v Speaker 1>is hard to answer. No, I mean it's I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to answer specifically, but you can. It's God, how

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<v Speaker 1>do I answer this? I know, Easton, you're just just waiting,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, because I don't want to dodge it, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want people be like, oh, we did say anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably bad because it's not. It's it's the physical

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<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, let me let me I'll answer

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<v Speaker 1>it this way. I'll answer it this way. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>When we first crossed over from friendship to boyfriend girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that changed was the physical part of

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<v Speaker 1>our relationship. Everything else has stayed the same. We're best friends,

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<v Speaker 1>we love hanging out with each other. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>only difference, and our relationship has only gotten incredibly better

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<v Speaker 1>since that moment. Because so I think that answers the question.

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<v Speaker 1>It does, But because now you can be best friends

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<v Speaker 1>while also being naked in the same bedest as each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that ad that that amplifies a friendship

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<v Speaker 1>when you're not just a friendship Dean, But that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It's like, you're able to take it to

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<v Speaker 1>the next level, but like, you know, you can now

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<v Speaker 1>be romantic and intimate with each other. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>say it was never awkward. That was the thing that was, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say surprising, but so relieving. Was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's always that little nerves were like, Okay,

0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.080
<v Speaker 1>now you know we've been best friends for two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years now, and now we're gonna start making

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<v Speaker 1>out and holding hands all the time. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>just uh, like I said early and ship has only

0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:04.560
<v Speaker 1>gotten better, And that part was is really good. It's

0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.879
<v Speaker 1>really good, Like it's great. I love kissing her. I

0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.080
<v Speaker 1>smother her. It's so funny because her dad will see

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<v Speaker 1>us on FaceTime and she'll like, be smothering me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and he's like, actually stop smothering him, like

0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you can't do that, and she's like, no, you don't understand.

0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.800
<v Speaker 1>He smothers me, which I do. I love, I love too.

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<v Speaker 1>I love smothering her. I feel like you guys both

0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.200
<v Speaker 1>have the personality where a lot of people will think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe from an outside perspective, like, oh, they're all over

0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:28.840
<v Speaker 1>each other all the time, like it's gonna fizzle out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like both of you are this type

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<v Speaker 1>of person that neither of you're ever really to get

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<v Speaker 1>sick of each other. From what I've been able to

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<v Speaker 1>gather from early, you have it now is so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you a little stories. So we obviously we went

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<v Speaker 1>to Mexico on Saturday. We spent pretty much every minute

0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:46.960
<v Speaker 1>with each other that entire time. Left Wednesday, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>stayed at place Wednesday night, and then Thursday, I think

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<v Speaker 1>was when we parted ways for the first time, and

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<v Speaker 1>she dropped me off because my car was still downtown

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<v Speaker 1>and on the way there, I started getting a little

0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.159
<v Speaker 1>separation excited. I was like, man, I don't want to

0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.160
<v Speaker 1>leave Ashley, but we spent a week straight together. It's

0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:10.240
<v Speaker 1>healthy if we spend a little time a part. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna say anything because I was gonna I

0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 1>felt like a lunatic being like I don't want to

0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:16.160
<v Speaker 1>leave you. It's been a week straight. But I don't

0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.600
<v Speaker 1>want to leave you. And then she out of nowhere,

0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:20.959
<v Speaker 1>it was like, I feel like I'm getting separation excited.

0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to leave. And I was like, oh,

0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.359
<v Speaker 1>thank god, I feel the same way. And so we

0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's so pathetic, but it's kind of funny. Yeah,

0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 1>we we we cried. You cried because because it was

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<v Speaker 1>just weird the first time we were engaged. We love

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<v Speaker 1>seeing each other. And I think she said the cutest

0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.320
<v Speaker 1>thing I've ever heard of my entire life. She was

0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.439
<v Speaker 1>she was crying, and we were both laughing at ourselves

0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.600
<v Speaker 1>because we were crying. And then she's like, I just

0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:47.000
<v Speaker 1>look at it, like every day that I'm not with

0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you is one less day that I get to spend

0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:54.400
<v Speaker 1>with you. And I was like, Ashley, my heart just melted. Um.

0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.560
<v Speaker 1>And so it's it's we don't get sick of each other,

0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>we having gout stick each other. At some point, I

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:00.760
<v Speaker 1>get a little nervous because I know that it's it's

0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna come eventually, Right, There's gonna come a time where

0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:04.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, I need I need to date with Naturally,

0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.359
<v Speaker 1>that's just marriage, that's relationships. That's what happen and so

0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know when that day is gonna come.

0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's pretty cool. We never get tired of each other.

0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 1>The cool thing is, yes, where fiance's we're in love,

0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:17.320
<v Speaker 1>everything is great, but we're also just best friends and

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:18.639
<v Speaker 1>we love hanging out with each other. And that's the

0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:21.040
<v Speaker 1>best part of the relationship. That's important. It's so important.

0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I think any successful long term relationship, marriage, whatever it is,

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.479
<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll tell you that the basis and the foundation

0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:27.960
<v Speaker 1>for all that is a solid friendship and being able

0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:29.760
<v Speaker 1>to be around each other. I completely agree. I mean,

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:31.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody always says you want to marry the best friend,

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and now I'm experiencing that firsthand, and I can't tell I.

0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you enough how wonderful it is. Um So, Dean,

0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I know what's gonna happen for you. I hate talking

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:41.960
<v Speaker 1>about this all the time because I just I do

0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like a jerk sometimes because people remnant of my face.

0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 1>It feels like I'm rubbing in face. But I also

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.440
<v Speaker 1>don't want to downplay it because I want people to

0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.680
<v Speaker 1>know how happy I really am. Um. So I'm trying

0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 1>to balance that line where I'm not trying to show

0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 1>anything off. At the same time, I don't want people

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to say, oh, he doesn't sound that excited, because I've

0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:58.800
<v Speaker 1>never been happier. It was funny now as one of

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:02.160
<v Speaker 1>our friends, you know, nas and she was like, She's like, Jared,

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you're getting better looking, you're glowing, You're pregnant, You're pregnant

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 1>with love right now. I was like, I am. I'm

0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.639
<v Speaker 1>just I've never been happier and and I couldn't be

0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 1>more grateful for it. And and Dean, I know it's

0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 1>coming for you. Dean is such a good catch. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want, I need, I need you. I need I

0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 1>need Dean to be the bachelor. I need Dean to

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<v Speaker 1>be the bachelor. That's what needs to happen. You said,

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:22.240
<v Speaker 1>you said it's important to marry your best friend. I'm

0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:23.600
<v Speaker 1>just trying to think, like, would Mike be down to

0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:25.800
<v Speaker 1>get married to me at some point? With Jackson be married,

0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:27.879
<v Speaker 1>down to get married. I'm just trying to think of

0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:29.359
<v Speaker 1>any of my friends would be willing and open to

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that type of relationship, you know, I mean, I guess

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the important question is are you open to Because I'm

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 1>just it's important to marry your best friend, and I'm

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:38.400
<v Speaker 1>just starting to think like, would my best friends even

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:42.639
<v Speaker 1>be interested in marrying me? That's interesting. You might have

0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to find that out anyways. All right, well, shift gears

0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I feel bad for grilling you. Actually,

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>it's not ask me anything you want. I'm sure we'll

0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.120
<v Speaker 1>circle back as kind of this this whole thing unfolds

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:53.719
<v Speaker 1>and as you know, we check in with you regularly.

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 1>But all that kind of stuff. But before we get

0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 1>into last night's episode of the Bachelor, at there was

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:01.359
<v Speaker 1>some bad news to mix in with your good news.

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Breaking news. Actually, it feels like breaking news. Derek Paith

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and Taylor Nolan's engagement was broken off. It seems like yesterday. Yeah,

0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>apparently they put out a statement which reads, it is

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.359
<v Speaker 1>with much sadness that we've decided to end our engagement.

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:18.680
<v Speaker 1>We put everything we could into our relationship and are

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 1>heartbroken to go forward separately, but we know this is

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the best decision for the both of us. This is

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>what executives have said. We will still be present in

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>each other's lives with support, admiration and respect for each other. Um.

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's a very platonic way to just say that,

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've gone on separate ways. And broke up

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 1>and ended the engagement, which I actually I don't know

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>if I sound like a jerk saying this. I forgot

0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.880
<v Speaker 1>they were engaged for a second because when they said when,

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>when it was announced, when we heard about they broke up,

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, that's sad, and then it hit me, Oh,

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 1>that's right, they were engaged because I forgot that he

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.239
<v Speaker 1>proposed on not after the final rose. But uh, I mean,

0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever you're after the after show was paradise after show,

0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Paradise after show. So I mean, is then has anybody

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>stunned as I? I didn't know Derek and Taylor. I

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 1>only met Derek a couple times. I've never had the

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 1>privilege to meet Taylor, so I don't really know the

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 1>into work into their relationship, how good it was, what

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>it was like. So I think I think this breakup

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:15.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe Beckon's a whole other segment. Maybe next week is

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>they got engaged and they've lived long distance for an

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 1>entire year of their engagement. Taylor lives in Seattle, Derek's

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>lived in New York for a year. Like, what did

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 1>they expect was going to happen? Yeah? Did they have

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>any I mean, you were on Paradise with them. Did

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.479
<v Speaker 1>they have any plans to move in with each other

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 1>or was this just kind of gonna go with the

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.200
<v Speaker 1>flow type than Granted I'm not best friends as either

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>of them, it's not like I talked to them often

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to ask them kind of what their plan is. But

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I know that Taylor visited him in New York a

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 1>few times, and maybe he visited her in Seattle. But

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you can't so you have to have some sort of plan.

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think that maybe there was some talks about

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:49.680
<v Speaker 1>her moving to New York and it just never really materialized.

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, how do you expect an engagement to

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>be successful and lead to marriage if you don't ever

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 1>live with each other in the same city, maybe not

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>even in the same house, but if you as live

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.439
<v Speaker 1>thirty five miles apart each other, you're setting yourself up

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>for failure. And it's been a year, So that's the

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>if it If it ended after a couple of months

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 1>and then they said, listen, we got engaged. Maybe we

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>rushed into things. We weren't gonna move. I was gonna

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>move to New York. I wasn't gonna move to Seattle.

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Just wasn't gonna work out. But now it's been a year,

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>So I wonder did they have plans to move with

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>each other, Because if you get engaged, I would imagine, Okay,

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>now we're engaged, we're gonna, you know, either you're moving

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>to New York or I'm moving to Seattle within the

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>next few months or so at least have a plan.

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's been a year. So did they think that

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>they were going to do a long distance engagement for

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a year and then hopefully things would get better. I

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>do know that Taylor, or I'm sorry, Derek, before moving

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 1>to New York lived in Iowa, so he got he

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 1>was living in Iowa, Taylor was living in Seattle. They

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>got engaged, and then Derek moved to New York, which

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:46.439
<v Speaker 1>frustrates me because I've been in the situation too before,

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>where if you're in a relationship with someone and you

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 1>guys live in different cities and then that person is

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.440
<v Speaker 1>moving after you get in a relationship, they decided to move,

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and they decided to move to a different city that's

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>not the same city that you're in, and you guys

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>don't have an agreement to move in together. It's like, listen, buddy,

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you're moving regardless, Like if you're gonna move to New

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 1>York or gonna move to Seattle, what's the difference. I'm

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 1>in Seattle, come to Seattle unless it was a dream job,

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.239
<v Speaker 1>the only thing, because even for a job, you can

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>make arrangements to maybe have some sort of similar job

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>in Seattle. But if it's his actual dream job where

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>he said he'd been working a very long time to

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>get that, then I can understand moved to New York

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>and then having to really talk further upon where they

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>were going to live. But I don't know, that's tough.

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, I thought that they I mean, obviously

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>they won't be on Paradise. Usually they bring couples to

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>that's and that's the thing too. I thought that they

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>were bringing some couples down for this season's Paradise. I know,

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 1>obviously they brought you and actually down as we discussed,

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think that they brought other couples. I thought

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that Taylor and Derek were one of those couples. Maybe not,

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe not, I don't know. I mean, judging by this news,

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>they probably saw it coming. So I'd be shocked if

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>they end up, you know, doing any type of Cameo

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and Paradise together. That'd be weird. These public breakups are

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>always weird too. It's like, did they delivered a joint

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>statement and then both both posts on their instagrams? I'm

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>not really sure how that worked, and then the news

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>around the story. Did they both go to the news

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, hey, we're going to break up?

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, I mean with the public breakup.

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you know you're in the public I right,

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 1>So you don't owe anybody anything. You don't owe anybody

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>in explanation, And having said that, everybody assumes you're in

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>a public relationships. So, for example, if Derek and Taylor

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>broke up but they never announced anything, would you just

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>assume that they'd be even if Derek was just posting

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>pictures of himself on Instagram, would you just assume that

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>they're still together? Yeah, I mean, if you don't have

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>any of the reason to assume otherwise. But then people

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>obviously start saying like, oh, you haven't posted with your

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 1>significant other, and example, you guys are definitely broken up.

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>So isn't it easier just to get ahead of the

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>story and say, hey, listen, it sucks, we don't want

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to announce it, but it's probably just easier this way

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 1>rather than people making rumors assumptions, and then we're probably

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to talk about it later down the road anyway,

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>So might as well just talk about it right now.

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Get it over with. Put it out there. Obviously, you

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>News is going to run it because I mean, you've

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>been in this world long enough where rumors swirl people

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, um hear stories and ask questions and so

0:27:57.960 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>it's very easy to just put it out there. That

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:03.399
<v Speaker 1>makes it I don't know, Um, I'm so. I'm in

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 1>a group chat with both of them from Paradise last year, Like,

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>we have a big group chat as a pretty much

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>all of the original cast members that were there, and

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>there were no indicators leading up to this breakup from

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.239
<v Speaker 1>what I saw. Granted, like we obviously don't text each

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>other every day, even in that group chat, but there

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>was nothing that would make any of us I feel like,

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>feel like they were going to break up, which is

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 1>just surprising, I guess. But like you said earlier, like oh,

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>they forgot they were engaged. That's the thing. It's like

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys were basically in a long distance relationship for

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the entirety of your relationship. You didn't really give it

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>a fair chance to begin with. You know, you never

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>even let the freaking plane leave the runway. You were

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>just sitting in the freaking uh termamob the whole time. Yeah,

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>waiting for things to take off. Ye yeah, potentially. Like

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't really know that you're workings a relationship.

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I've only meant Derek a couple of times. But um,

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, I mean, like I said, does

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>it shock anybody? I'm not trying to even be a

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>jerk when I say that, but is it? I don't

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>even mean just Derek and Taylor. But you know, we've

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>seen so many Paul Look relationships and then public breakups

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that I think a lot of us are just becoming

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>numb to it. It's like, oh, dark Tail didn't work

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>out well. I swear to I swear Jared. If we

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>see one of these where you and Ashley, I'm going

0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>to lose my mind. I'm not boycotting, it's not gonna happen.

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Doing whatever it takes to make sure that it's not true,

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm very confident it won't happen. Well, I guess, uh,

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we saw well, what about so you try

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you talked about public breakup for a second. You obviously

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>had one just a few months ago. You don't have

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>to get into the details about it. But what made

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you guys say, Okay, we're gonna announce it. You know,

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a great questions. It was tricky to um that

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>whole situation was just weird, weird, weird. I kind of

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>feel uncomfortable even talking about it, to be honest, but

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I will. I mean, you don't, you don't have to

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>talk about it. But just was there anything where you

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>guys said, hey, it's better if we just announced it

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>rather than let people assume we're not together anymore. No,

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>but what was weird was before we even had the

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>chance to announce anything. E News ran an article about

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>us breaking up, like interesting, before anything was even like

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.719
<v Speaker 1>even happened. Really, they ran in article of us being

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>broken up? Did you guys know that the article is

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>coming out? So my friend who works at the news

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>texted me and said, hey, just so you know, I'm

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>running an article about you today And I was like, oh,

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>what's the article And she goes, oh, it's you unless

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you're breaking up, And I'm like, well, we aren't broken up.

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Were you guys broken up? No, we weren't. You guys

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>are still together when the news reported that you guys

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>were broken up? So no, when she texted me that

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it was just a weird situation. So she text me

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that they're going to run an article early in the morning,

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, um, okay, that's weird because we're

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>not broken up, Like what's your source and she's like,

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>we can't tell the sources whatever, whatever. And then later

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that day is when Leslie and I broke up. And

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>then so when they ran the article itself, like technically

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>we were broken up, but when they told me that

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>they were they were gonna run the article, we hadn't

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>been broken up yet and pretty much so they knew

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it was coming. And so what was weird about that

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>situation is then I feel like both of us, Leslie

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and I were backed into our corner and we're like, oh, well,

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>like they ran an article about us breaking up. Are

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>we supposed to now post for ourselves about the breakup

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>or did we just go about living our lives on

0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Instagram as we normally would and just kind of forget

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>about it all together? Yeah, and letting people you know,

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>read the article if they want to assume whatever they

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>care to what. But you guys, obviously we're we don't

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>have to get the into workings. But when you found

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>out that the article was coming out, you guys, both

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>of you guys knew it was pretty much over because

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>there's no I mean, unless you're telling me that there's

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>an article ran that you guys broke up and then

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>five hours later, you guys. That's that's the incredibly confusing

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>thing is it's like, how, how and why did they

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>want to run an article about is breaking up when

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>there was no inklinger like leading up to that, you know.

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>And again, I feel, really we're talking about this because

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know why. But I had

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>just gotten back from India, um like, Leslie and I

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>hadn't been together for what three weeks or so, And

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess people were just assuming and maybe the news

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>took it that assumption and ran with it, and they're like,

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna publish this story. I mean, it's news.

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not like it's the freaking Wall Street Journal in

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>New York Times or something like that. Still, though I

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know if they would publish any type of story

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>like that on a on a gut feeling. It was

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>just a weird situation too, And I don't know, like,

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. And I think with any type

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of public breakup, and then specifically going back to Derek

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and Taylor, there's no right way to do it. Anyway

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>you do it, it's going to be weird and uncomfortable.

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>You're in a public relationship that people are invested in.

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>It's just weird to have to announce. Um, so it

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out, but we still have friends, and it's

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>just an awkward, awkward statement to release, Like a joint statement.

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I think the joint statement is the way to go.

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Like Claire and Ben Wall did a joint statement. Seems

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>like Taylor and Derek did a joint statement. It's just

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:23.479
<v Speaker 1>easier that way, you know, just to put it out

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>there together, move on with your lies. Um, I think

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 1>it's easier just to make a public announcement. We did

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>not do a joint statement. Would you guys do just Instagram?

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's pretty much a joint statement because you

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>guys posted each on your own Instagram, which is somewhat

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>of a weird joint statement, I would say, because if

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>it would be weird if one of you guys posted

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>the other one didn't, that would be the weird thing.

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's stop talking about this and you wish them the best. Um,

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, even if the relationships don't work out, obviously,

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>you still want the individual to be happy. So hopefully

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>it's for the best. Hopefully they really are both in

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>good places. It's hard to break off in jugement. I've

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>never done it, but I can't. It's hard enough to

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>break up with a girlfriend. I can't imagine breaking up

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>with a fiancee. I know. Well, at least you know

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>they didn't cross the threshold and so they don't have

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>to break up as husband and wife. That would have

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>been far worse. So well, see, hopefully the best for him.

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about last night's batchelortt real quick, what do

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you thought about Jordan versus David? Yeah, so last night

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>we had the show down the infamous two on one

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>that we have every single season, Jordan versus David, and

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>it ended pretty much exactly how I had wanted it

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to end. I hate, well, I don't want to say

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the word hate, but I've strongly disliked both of those

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>characters on the show mostly and at the end of

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>at the end of this, and I feel like a

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of people will be able to agree with me

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>on this is At first you're like a little annoyed

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the Jordan for always kind of stirring everything up. But

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>then by the end of it, you're like, David is

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 1>just as bad, if not worse than Jordans through through

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>all of this, I think we both thought David was

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>worse the worser part of this. Yeah, David was the lesser.

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's funny too because it's the same thing

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>that happened on my season. There was a villain, and

0:33:57.560 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>there was a guy that he kind of villainized a

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>little more than the rest. It was Blake and waboom,

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>And by the end of it, you're like, well, Blake

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>is just more frustrating now than the villain is, because

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>he's the one that's like making his entire universe about

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that other guy when he should be making it about

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the girl. That's kind of what David is like. Whenever

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>David talked to Becca, he was talking about Jordan or

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>not about their relationship. Yeah, even yesterday, the twun of

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>them one, David pulled back at aside, and he's like, Hey,

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>it's really great being here, but in the spirit of

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>being honest, Jordan's sucks. And it's like, why would you

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>even dive into that conversation talk about yourself? You talked

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:30.320
<v Speaker 1>about Jordan. The entire experience so far, it's always the

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>guys that go on this show that talk about other

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>guys that are the ones that self destructive. And if

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you apply that to real life dating, think about going

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>on a date with someone in the real in the

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.240
<v Speaker 1>real world. I'll say that term lightly because obviously Batcheld

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>is the real world. It's just a little bit more

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>of an amplified version of it. But like, you don't

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>go on a date with someone first date, third date,

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, and just start trashing. I guess how

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 1>would how would it apply? Though? Maybe like you'd go

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>on a date with a girl that used to have

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>a thing with one of your buddies and maybe maybe

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>still has like an ongo thing with someone or something

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>like that. Maybe, And but it's also not like a friend.

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just like a guy that you know, and so

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>you're like, hey, what's going on. I'm really happy to

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>go on this date. By the way, the guy that

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you know you were dating that you still kind of

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>talk to. He sucks and he's dishonest and he's lying

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>to and he's not here for the right reasons, and

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>she's like, we're at a dive bar, what do you

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>mean the right reasons? The reasons already get drunk and

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>say if we like each other, that's about as simple ass.

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>That's the right reasons right there. And so I think David,

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I hate saying it because he seems like a nice guy,

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:31.280
<v Speaker 1>but man, he was just so annoying with the Jordan

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 1>thing because he could not help himself. And that was

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 1>the frustrating part, was that there comes a time where

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you gotta let things go. And I think Jordan was

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>very much ready to let it go. He wasn't talking

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>too much before the two on one. He wasn't talking

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>about David unless it was like his I T M

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>s and he was trying to be funny. And then

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>but David just every time, even before the two on one,

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>we was like, oh, you could bring you cold and unparents, like,

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, do I need to know about any underwear?

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like, David, let it go. And I think I

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 1>think Colton said it perfect. Actually perfectly when excuse me. Um.

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>After the two on when david suitcase was taken away,

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>He's like, he went in with the wrong attitude, and

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>he's completely accurate. I think David just saw Jordan as

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the bad guy, and David was like, okay, but if

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm against the bad guy, that makes me guy. And

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that was his um path, his direction, Like

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>if that makes any sense, well, so then let's apply

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>this maybe to a similar but different situation. If your

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>friend is dating someone that you don't like, do you

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 1>tell your friend that his girlfriend is no good? Um? Like,

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>where's that boundary? Where's that boundary? Set? I think you

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>should put out feelers, but I feel like it always

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>ends badly when you talk to a friend and you're like, listen,

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 1>they your boyfriend sucks. Um. Like somebody in my life

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that I know likes to date a project, somebody that

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>she feels like she can fix, so to speak. Um.

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 1>And if I were to tell her that, hey, listen,

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I think your boyfriend sucks and he's a bad person,

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 1>she'd be like no, no, no, no, no no no,

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>he's just misunderstood. You don't get him. He loves me

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>for who I am. He's so good to me, and

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, that's fine, but he's probably cheating on

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>you as well. And so I think there's a line

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>where you have to um sensitively approach the subject, especially

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have concrete evidence of anything. Yeah, you

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:15.919
<v Speaker 1>have no concrete everence. It's just a vibe you don't

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:17.919
<v Speaker 1>like them, And so you go up to him. Because

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 1>the problem is if you tell your friend that you

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>don't like their significant other, that could create this ten

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 1>tension and she might choose the significant other because she

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 1>could easily or he or she could easily be like, well,

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't get it, you don't understand, you're not in

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>our relationship. Um and so, and I think there's a

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 1>little like rebellion factor to it. Yeah, I agree with that,

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I will say that. So the only situation that comes

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>to mind for me in this sense is back when

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I was living in Colorado in Denver, Um, one of

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>my best friends was dating this girl who we used

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to work with, and she was just kind of a

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 1>little cuckoo at times, and he was like kind of

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>blinded by it. She was this beautiful girl and he

0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>like saw that only and only that, and from his

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>friends perspective, I was like, listen, Bud, I love you

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'll always support the decisions that you make, but like,

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I just wish you could see the sides of crazy

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>to her that everyone else sees that maybe you're not

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>seeing quite as much. And like he's like, no, it's fine,

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Like she's good, she's great, she treats me well, blah

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and their relationship is very tumultuous and and

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a roller coaster. And by the end

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 1>of it, and once they officially broken up like once

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and for all, they you know, they broke up and

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>got picked together multiple times. But by the end of it,

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>he was like, I should have like listened to you.

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I should have listen to the rest of my friends

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 1>saying like how crazy she is and how we weren't

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>good together all this kind of stuff. But and while

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you're in the moment, I think it's like it's easy

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 1>to get lost and caught up in the relationship and

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>then kind of like discount everything that your friends are

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>saying about it. I completely agree. You just have blinders

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>under the relationship and you romanticize everything, and so I

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>think you should obviously tell our friend listen. If you

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>think that they're doing something really shady, you should approach it.

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:49.879
<v Speaker 1>But you have to approach it in a sensitive way

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 1>because if you go to him and say, hey, listen,

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>your boyfriend sucks, then they're gonna be like, well, screw you,

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>while you're not a very good friend to me, like

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>you just don't understand, you don't get it, and so,

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and I think also there's a factor. The more you

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 1>tell someone you shouldn't be with them, the more they

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:05.880
<v Speaker 1>want to be with them, you think, I think so,

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>just like the anti authoritarian and everyone think about like

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>specifically maybe a parent, Yeah, like a mom disapproving of

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>a boyfriend. I think there might be times where the

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:21.439
<v Speaker 1>girlfriends like I want to rebel. Oh absolutely, But isn't

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the parents Are the parent always right in that situation.

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 1>It seems to me that every girlfriend my parents have

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>hated over the years, they were a thousand percent right. No,

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>they are right. But here's the thing with that is

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's as a child you have to

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>be you kind of are more like, all right, well,

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>let me figure this out for myself, Like you think

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what's best for me, but let me prove

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>to myself that you're that I'm going to figure it

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>out on my own kind of thing, you know, because

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think back. I don't think any of

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>my siblings or parents ever like disagreed with the person

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I was dating, but they were I was definitely the

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>person that my girlfriend's parents didn't like her dating, you

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And she was very much the

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>contarian and wanted to rebel against her parents. And you

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.320
<v Speaker 1>seem like a parent's dream. What is it about you

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 1>that parents don't like? Well, the only thing that comes

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 1>to mind is Carmel, who we've had on this podcast before.

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>It was high school. I was like constantly sneaking out

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>of my house. I was constantly you know, getting in

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 1>trouble with like the the school and like the police

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>have just like I don't know, but like you know,

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>like like high school students do. Like they they go

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>underage drinking, they go to bonfires, can fires, all that

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. And I think my girlfriend's parents saw

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>this and like saw me like sneaking into their house

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:34.320
<v Speaker 1>at night on a on a Tuesday, just being like

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>this guy is not good for my daughter right now,

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Like get him out of here. So I mean, I

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 1>don't disagree with you that parents typically do know best,

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>but there is still it's like a funness factor to

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the relationship. I wonder if Karmel knows that her parents

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 1>were right. Well, that's the thing with now. I don't

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.760
<v Speaker 1>think that she has the closest relationship with their parents anymore.

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>But I will say, like Carmen and I are still friends,

0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>were still in good terms. I don't. I mean, I

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>don't use the term friends because we don't talk ever.

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.800
<v Speaker 1>But um, it was it was just it was just

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a funny situation. We get a lot of emails on

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>this exact subject. I can't stand my friend's boyfriend. Should

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I say something? What do you do in the situation?

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 1>You're saying it's a bad idea to get involved. I

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 1>don't take it's a bad idea. I just think you

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:20.759
<v Speaker 1>have to approach it in a sensitive way because I

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>think also, if you start telling somebody all the bad

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>things that that like their boyfriend and girlfriend have, they're

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna start focusing on all the good things because for

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>every bad thing you say, they're gonna say, well, yes,

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, they treat me so well

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're so loyal and so honest, and you're like, yeah,

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>but they do this, but then the person but they

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 1>do that, and then that kind of goes on. But

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>if you're like, no, he's great, he's wonderful, then maybe

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>they start might they might actually open their eyes a

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit and start focusing on some of the bad

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>things too. Actually, his parents are crazy about you. I've

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:48.800
<v Speaker 1>been very, very lucky for the past three years that

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the fact that I've had a very good relationship with

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>their parents. I've been over our house numerous times. I

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>think the first time I met them was in October

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>two fifteen. And they've been so nice to me and

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.879
<v Speaker 1>so gracious when they really didn't have to be. I'm

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 1>so grateful to have in laws like them. And she said,

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and the most famous podcast that you did reach out

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to her parents unbeknownst to her. Yes, so I called.

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want them to have to keep the secret

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.280
<v Speaker 1>too long, so I called her dad. I texted her dad. Actually,

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, Mr Rick and Eddie, whenever you have a second,

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to talk to you. Please don't tell Ashley

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm reaching out. He knows exactly what's going on. No,

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>he did not, because well, first he texted back, who's

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 1>this and so and um and so, and then I

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 1>responded and said, it's it's Jared. I just want to

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>talk to her a few minutes. And he says, everything okay.

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, everything is fine, Um, just a couple of

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>minutes on the phone, of your time, please. So he

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>called me about ten or fifteen minutes later, and we

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 1>talked on the phone for about ten minutes, and uh,

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I started the conversation just asking how he's doing,

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>what's up, blah blah blah blah blah, And then I

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.800
<v Speaker 1>went into like this four minute monologue about my feeling

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:51.919
<v Speaker 1>stars actually and everything that's happened over the past three years,

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and where I see our relationship going, and how important

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>she is to me, and how wonderful, um, you know,

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>how how much of a lucky I'd be to be

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:01.919
<v Speaker 1>a part of your family, so on and so forth.

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>And then finally I said, you know, as you well know,

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>we're probably as you know, we're making a cameo on Paradise,

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to ask for your permission to ask

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 1>for her hand in marriage. Um. And so he was like,

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 1>very well done, Jared, very well done. Uh, and he

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 1>just saidn't really wonderful things and said he'd be very

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 1>proud to have me as a son in law. So

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:22.879
<v Speaker 1>and then that's when I asked if I should tell

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Ashley's mom, because Ashley's mom has no poker face. I

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>love her so much, but you know, like any mom,

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>she would be so excited. How can you possibly contain that?

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, listen, I trust my wife. She

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>would never spoil anything like this. So I called her

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 1>mom later that day. We talked on the phone for

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>like a half hour, and um, and you know, she

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>was very excited. She said said something that was so

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>sweet though. She said, of all the guys that Actuley

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>has ever you know dated or you know, been around,

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 1>She's like, you're the only guy that I would um

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 1>want as a son in law. And so that was

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 1>very very very sweet of her to say, and so

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I heard him. I get along with her mom famously though.

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember the first time I ever met her, we

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 1>sat in living for like forty five minutes and just

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>talked about everything and anything. And then this was like

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I said back in two thousan fifteen, and at the

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>end of the conversation, she goes, are you sure you're

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>not gonna did Ashley and said, listen, I don't know

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.919
<v Speaker 1>what the future housing store, but um we shall see

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Mrs liken Ttie. So so yes, of course I reached out.

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I had to come on, you do you have to

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So it was a little interesting because when I was

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:24.879
<v Speaker 1>down in Mexico, I was talking to Tanner and Evan

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>about it and I was like, oh, you know, I

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>had to call the dad. You know, I'm sure you

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>guys went through the same thing, and they were like, no,

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:35.439
<v Speaker 1>we didn't. Actually you never had the opportunity. You guys

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 1>got engaged on the show. It was so funny. Tanner

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, you're an apt I was like, I

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even thinking because it would have been so weird.

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine? Like what if Tanner called him after

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the proposal and I was like, Hey, I don't know

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Roper is Jade's James. So he goes, hey, Mr Roper,

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I know we've never met each other. I know you

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>have no idea who I am, but just so you know,

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I've already asked your daughter to marry me and she

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>said yes. And whether I have your blessing or not,

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 1>would that be wouldn't that be more on. You know,

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>that's not acceptable. I mean, my daughter is my oldest

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 1>is twelve, so we're not there yet, but that's not acceptable. Yeah.

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 1>So as a as a dad, if say, hypothetics, your

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 1>daughter on exactly so thirty days, so she was going

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 1>for thirty days, so you have no idea if she's

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>engaged your summer camp. It's summer camp. She goes off

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>to a summer camp, potentially gets engaged. She comes back

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and she says, Hey, I got engaged to this guy.

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I want you to meet him. So the guy calls you, Hey,

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Mr Wong, I guess proposed to your daughter in summer camp.

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 1>So would you rather have the guy that you have

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 1>no idea who he is or anything about that? But yeah,

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I would rather. I don't want a phone call. He

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 1>needs to come and talk to me personally. Yes, I see.

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I I wanted to do that as well, but unfortunately

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm in Los Angeles. Her dad was in Virginia. I

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>called my father, my future now father in law as well,

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>because I was in Los Angeles and they were in Wisconsin.

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 1>So sometimes you don't have a choice. Voice and just

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 1>like you wait to the left possible second before Amy

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and I went out of town so her mother wouldn't

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 1>spoil it because it's the same poker face reason. So

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it's funny, that's very similar. I feel like a lot

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of moms. I had a nerve, right. I had a

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 1>difficult time telling my own mom because I was like,

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you cannot, like. I was afraid my mom was gonna

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>like text Ashley and just be like, I hope you

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>have fun in Paradise with like some sort of smiley emoji,

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 1>because that's exactly what my mom would do, which would

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>be a dead giveaway. So I was like, mom, you

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you can't do anything right. You can't do anything. And

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:31.839
<v Speaker 1>some of my friends whom it's just like like Tanner,

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 1>one of my buddies, new and and and and he

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:36.279
<v Speaker 1>was like, should I, like, you know, set up this

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 1>text and I, like, you know, try to like allude

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to maybe we're not getting engaged. I was like, no,

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:45.439
<v Speaker 1>less is more. Let's just everybody, everybody stay calm, nobody overreact.

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's just get through this. I don't want her to

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 1>know anything, or at least as little as possible. So

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I was right there, beautiful, So we can we tell

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 1>the Wong story real quick? If I didn't know why

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you just called me Mr. Just to please what We

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 1>talked about it before, but you have I don't remember

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>talking about that. We have maybe we haven't talked about

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 1>it on air. I don't think we have on air.

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, Please enlightened that. I worked for

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Rickney's about ten years ago and we did a morning

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 1>show on a station called Moving nine to three nine

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't exist anymore in Los Angeles, but he asked

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.319
<v Speaker 1>me to be the news guy on his morning show.

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:20.880
<v Speaker 1>My name is Mark Mulnitski, very Chuckoslovakian name, and he

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>said I'd love you to be my news guy. Said, wow,

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 1>that's really exciting. Thank you so much. I'd love to

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>do that. And he said, I'd like your name to

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 1>be Mark Wong. And the reason was he loved the

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 1>phrase you heard it right from Wong as a news again,

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that was my catchphrase. That's it, you heard it right

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>from Wong. I'm Mark Wong on Moving nine and that

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:40.359
<v Speaker 1>was the deal. So that's why I was Mark Wong

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 1>for two and a half years. But it was tough

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:44.320
<v Speaker 1>for my wife because she would tell people my husband's

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Mark Wong and they would immediately look to our children.

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Expect you to see these multi ethnic children. And we're

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.880
<v Speaker 1>from Wisconsin, We're not. There's no Asian in us whatsoever.

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>And so that was always confusing for people. And I

0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 1>would make appearances and people would not expect me to

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>look the way I look. Was very strange for three years.

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:03.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's why he just referred to me as Mr Wong.

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm only referring to you as Mr Wang from now on.

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I think it's incredible. It's amazing. Um Okay, so let's

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>move on to further things about last night's episode. Chris,

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>who had a bit of a self destruction moment himself. Yeah,

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>he was self destruction last night. What was he so

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>mad about? Again, He was coming off the group date

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 1>super hot, after the whole performance at the bar or

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:27.799
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, and then and then he didn't get

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>any time at the later portion of the date, which

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>was his own fault. He never went out to her.

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>As being one of the guys on the Bachelorette, you

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>have to make the effort. Bent his own fault for

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:39.879
<v Speaker 1>not going up and talking to Becca. And then come

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Rose Ceremony cocktail hour, he got some time with Becca

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and Becca was a little upset with him for not

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess inserting himself when she feels like he should

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:50.320
<v Speaker 1>have and that's what she would want in a partner.

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>And then he starts like getting on his heels and

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 1>backpatting a little bit and be like, oh, well, I

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>don't remember exactly what I said. I remember at that.

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 1>So it was at the group date, and then at

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the night portion, the cocktail portion portion, he didn't go

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:03.800
<v Speaker 1>up to her, and then she sat back down. She's like,

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I didn't get to spend some time with everybody.

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:07.839
<v Speaker 1>I think he was the only guy that didn't have time.

0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 1>So he was kind of getting a little mad that

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 1>she didn't come up to him, which is absolutely ridiculous.

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 1>She gives the rose to blake, he gets a little

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:15.879
<v Speaker 1>pissy about it, and then he said he was gonna

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 1>go home, and that's what started the entire thing. I

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 1>hated how he said he wanted to go home over

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and over and over again. It kind of reminded me

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of like like a toddler who doesn't get a toy

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, well, if I don't get this, I'm

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna run away, and then you'll be sorry and it's like, listen, Chris,

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 1>if you want to go home. Um, I'm sure beck

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Is gonna be just fine with it. Like I hate

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>when people threaten uh friends somebody with leaving, and I

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 1>think I think the reason that they do that, and

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:43.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe that Chris did it the last night as well,

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:45.399
<v Speaker 1>was like I'm going to see how much he cares

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>about me by seeing how hard she fights for me

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to stick around kind of thing. You know. I will

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 1>say that there was a point during my Bachelor experience

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:55.279
<v Speaker 1>where my journey, if you will, where we were at

0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a cocktail hour and I was like, listen, guys, like

0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm exhausted. I don't know what's going on. Like I like,

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:02.919
<v Speaker 1>I want to go home, Like I missed my friends,

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 1>I missed my home, I missed everything about like being

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 1>back just in California around like my usual life because

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're gone for like six weeks at that

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 1>point too. And they're like listen, like this is part

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 1>of the journey, Like this is like everyone goes through this.

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:14.400
<v Speaker 1>And then eventually I was like, oh, you're right, Like

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just being dramatic right now. Whatever it is. I

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>think that he just had he had such a big meltdown.

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly what it is. I think like

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he maybe sees other relationships progressing faster, like a like

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>a Garrett Blake Colton all seemed to be doing really

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.399
<v Speaker 1>really well for themselves and he thinks he's the front

0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>runner too, and then he's like, oh wait, like I thought,

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting everything out there and I'm still not even

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 1>top of the pecking order, like maybe I should go

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:36.880
<v Speaker 1>home kind of thing. And I think everybody goes through that,

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:39.279
<v Speaker 1>but everybody is allowed to have a moment, but his

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a moment. His was an ongoing thing because this

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:45.800
<v Speaker 1>bled into the Rose ceremony where he did the exact

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 1>same thing, where he just felt like Becca was mad

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:50.360
<v Speaker 1>at him, and he was like, I just want to

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.320
<v Speaker 1>go home. This is ridiculous, And that's what bothered me.

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't it's fine to have a moment of weakness

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and say I want to go home, because we all

0:50:57.680 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>were there, right, We're like, it's exhausting and this process

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is very difficult, and there's still ten other guys and

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.680
<v Speaker 1>while I feel confident, I'm not sure where the hell

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I am. Um. I just kind of want to go

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:11.400
<v Speaker 1>home and sleep in my own bed and back in

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>my comfort zone. But with him, it was more of

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go home, because it was he was using

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>it more as a threat towards Becca. That's what I

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 1>felt like. It was more of like, if she doesn't

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.840
<v Speaker 1>show me more, I'm gonna go home. It's like, okay,

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:26.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's not her responsibility to show him more. It's

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 1>his responsibility to show her more because he's one of

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the guys. Yes, that's just the way the show works.

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>For example, when it's The Bachelor and you're one of

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the girls, it's your responsibility to show the one man

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>more than he has to show back. I mean, that's

0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 1>just the way the the the entire Bachelor franchise works. Yeah. Absolutely.

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:45.040
<v Speaker 1>But and so Chris started mounting down a little bit,

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and then it went into the cocktail party. But it

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 1>was super funny when he went up, so he had

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>his time, and then he went back up to get

0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:55.760
<v Speaker 1>more time and he interrupted Wills, and Will's reaction was perfect,

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:57.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm gonna give you two minutes, and Will's

0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>got up, to his credit, gave him. Even if it

0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a full two minutes, it was a minute. And

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 1>then he came back, and I hated the way Chris

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of approached it again. We was like, he's like this,

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you can't give me more. You can't give me more,

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.880
<v Speaker 1>like I just need five minutes. I just need And

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 1>then he was like, man, this is really important. And

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I loved wills Um response to that when he was like, what,

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:18.360
<v Speaker 1>my time is not imporn And that's such an awkward

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:20.239
<v Speaker 1>thing too. It's because you don't want to be disrespectful

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:23.160
<v Speaker 1>to him, the other guy, disrespectful to her Becca, and

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.840
<v Speaker 1>disrespectful to yourself, and so you're like, okay, like there's

0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 1>so much going on. I don't want it to look

0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 1>like I'm a pushover and get up right away. But

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I also want to be respectful and like polite and

0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 1>allow you to grasp at whatever straws you need to

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>grasp that here. And I think Will handled it entirely appropriately,

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 1>like he was respectful. He gave him some time even

0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:42.880
<v Speaker 1>though he probably shouldn't have. No, Yeah, and then his

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>time is just as important. What it was funny too,

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 1>is when Wills came back to sit down on the

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 1>couch and Jayson, I'm sorry Chris was sitting there, and

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Chris is like, well, so, like, what will is, You're

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:53.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna be super angry at me? And I was was like,

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:55.359
<v Speaker 1>not not angry, man, like, no, I'm fine, I'm fine.

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I never said you're disrespecting me. That's what he said, right.

0:52:58.239 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I hope you got what you think you needed out

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:01.279
<v Speaker 1>of that. And so I'm listening. I'm glad that Chris

0:53:01.360 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>got a rose because, like we talked about, yet, it

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a good moment for him. He had a bad

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 1>couple of nights, which is frustrating. But if he gets

0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the rose and he's able to move forward and actually

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:12.160
<v Speaker 1>learn from this, then I'm all for it. But judging

0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>by the preview, apparently him and Lincoln get into it,

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't look like he learned from his mistakes. Unfortunately.

0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 1>UM I agree. Um So, before we jump into this

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 1>third and final segment of the day, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>Podcasts are awesome right there? There's so many different ways

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:53.319
<v Speaker 1>to go with this. Sure, you know what they say

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.160
<v Speaker 1>about podcasters, right what do they say? They say those

0:53:56.200 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 1>who can do and those who can't do podcasts? I

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 1>think that's true that uh do you under some emails?

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Jamie has a question for those in relationships, so mostly

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Jared and Mark. She says, do you ever feel pressured

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:14.920
<v Speaker 1>to make your significant other smile or laugh when they're

0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 1>feeling sad or grumpy? How do you deal with when

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:19.880
<v Speaker 1>they're in that mood where they won't just smile at anything?

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I always take it personally when my fiance is grumpy,

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 1>won't smile at anything I say. I know I shouldn't,

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>but I can't help it sometimes. How do you deal

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:28.239
<v Speaker 1>with your fiance slash wife in a mood and there's

0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 1>nothing you can do about it? Mark? After you I've

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 1>been married for this summer will be sixteen years. Um.

0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I think space is important in a relationship. And I

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 1>think when the other partner is grumpy, and it could

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:42.480
<v Speaker 1>be my wife or it could be me, I think

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:45.680
<v Speaker 1>The message that is unconsciously being sent is I need

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a little space right now. And I think that's what

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you should do for your fiance. Just leave him be

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Because as much as we love our

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 1>spouses and we love our families, you know, like we've

0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:57.840
<v Speaker 1>joked about in the past, there's a reason that dad's

0:54:57.880 --> 0:54:59.720
<v Speaker 1>with kids spend a lot of time in the bathroom.

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.000
<v Speaker 1>They just need a few minutes to themselves, and so

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it gets a little overwhelming. When you're all live

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>in a house. It isn't necessarily that big you need.

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:08.399
<v Speaker 1>It gets a little bit crowded sometimes, So I think

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that's the main thing is to give him some space.

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I would agree, sometimes you just need to go outside

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and get some mair, and then it clears your head

0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, why the hell was I just so mad?

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'll even sometimes I'll just take a drive and

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:22.680
<v Speaker 1>like listen to music. I'll drive for like ten minutes

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and then it will be just I'll be centered again.

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of funny though, when you're talking about

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:28.320
<v Speaker 1>how so many guys been so much time in bathroom.

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 1>There's an ongoing joke. Last year at the New England

0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Patriots with Tom Brady. Tom Brady was early at the

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:36.200
<v Speaker 1>stadium every day, and there's this ongoing rumor that he

0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:37.799
<v Speaker 1>was like he needed to get out of the house.

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:39.239
<v Speaker 1>So he's like, all right, honey, I'm going to the

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:41.520
<v Speaker 1>stadium seven hours before the game. I gotta get out

0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 1>of here. Um. But yeah, I think, listen, you have

0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to handle each differently. Like for me, I you know,

0:55:47.600 --> 0:55:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I know Ashley well enough where I can like know

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:51.799
<v Speaker 1>how to handle her in a grumpy mood. I think

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:54.239
<v Speaker 1>she knows how to handle me as well. And it

0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 1>all really is different. But I think space is a

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:58.840
<v Speaker 1>good universal idea to deal with that. There's just no

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>downside to it, you know, leaving me for a little bit,

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and if there they need something, look find you exactly

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:07.160
<v Speaker 1>all right, there we go doing anything to add I

0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:08.759
<v Speaker 1>think you guy said at all? All right? This is

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:12.479
<v Speaker 1>from a confused data. She calls herself. I never thought

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I'd be in her friends with benefits relationship, but here

0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I am. We slept together recently for the first time.

0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Before we did, I told him I'm not sure I'm

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:22.840
<v Speaker 1>really into you right now, but I'm physically attracted to you,

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm very in the mood he was fine with that.

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet he was. Since then, we've found out a

0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:30.719
<v Speaker 1>few more times and continue to have sex. It's great.

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm enjoying it for what it is, and also know

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that if you wanted to end things, I would not

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>be heartbroken. It's taken me a while to get over

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:38.439
<v Speaker 1>my act, and this is the first time I feel

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:41.399
<v Speaker 1>like I've gotten my swag back. But it feels weird

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 1>telling people I'm just using him primarily for sex. I mean,

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 1>it could lead to more, but I'm not really feeling

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 1>it from a man's perspective. Do you think that friends

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:51.960
<v Speaker 1>with benefits situations are implied or was this a conversation

0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:54.200
<v Speaker 1>we need to have. I feel like the man in

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:56.959
<v Speaker 1>this situation. I want to date again and date other people,

0:56:57.040 --> 0:56:59.440
<v Speaker 1>but still continue with this until I have feelings for

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 1>someone else. For those of you have been in those situations,

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 1>what is the friends with benefits conversation like or does

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 1>it even have to happen? I think the tricky thing

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:12.160
<v Speaker 1>with these situations specifically, is what is your interaction on

0:57:12.200 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a weekly basis with this person via conversation? Are you

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 1>texting each other? Are you asking how your days are going?

0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:17.840
<v Speaker 1>All that kind of stuff. Because that's the kind of

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:22.240
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's going to lead a purely physical relationship into

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 1>an emotional one, probably more for you than for him,

0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I would think. And if that doesn't happen, like if

0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys basically just meet up every Friday or Saturday

0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 1>night and like hook up and then go about your

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:34.000
<v Speaker 1>week and then just kind of come back to that

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 1>every week, then that's purely a friends with benefits situation.

0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 1>But that's kind of what we don't see with this specifically,

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 1>is what's happening regularly conversationally that you know, we're we're

0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:44.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of oblivious to because I think that's kind of

0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 1>where it all draps fround. Yeah. I also think I

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:49.160
<v Speaker 1>think the only time you have to really bring up

0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 1>with friends with benefits conversation is if you are sleeping

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 1>with other people, because then now that's I think that's

0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the only conversation really need to have, is Okay, if

0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:01.320
<v Speaker 1>we are friends with benefits, are we hooking up with

0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:05.280
<v Speaker 1>other people? Because then that brings in a whole different conversation. Um,

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 1>But I think right now, yeah, you guys are fine.

0:58:07.000 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with having friends with benefit Like, I

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:11.920
<v Speaker 1>get that people feel awkward talking about it, but it's

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 1>certainly not embarrassing in any way. It is just a

0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:17.080
<v Speaker 1>physical need that human beings have to have. Like that's

0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 1>just that's just the way it is, That's the way

0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 1>life is. And so I don't know, there's nothing wrong

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 1>with having a friends with benefit if you guys just

0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:25.840
<v Speaker 1>like the physical part of your relationship. But you guys

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:28.120
<v Speaker 1>don't want to dive in anymore than do exactly what

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:29.920
<v Speaker 1>he was saying. We're just as long as you guys

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:32.160
<v Speaker 1>both comfortable, comfortable text each other and be like, hey,

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to hook up tonight. And she's getting her

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:36.240
<v Speaker 1>swag back. This is working for her. She's getting over

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:38.920
<v Speaker 1>this way exactly, and doesn't it work in a lot

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:41.160
<v Speaker 1>of ways. It brings about it like anytime you start

0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 1>hooking up, you start feeling better about yourself and you

0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:44.880
<v Speaker 1>start building a little bit more confidence. You just have

0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 1>to be safe about it and have open communication. You

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to lead anybody on. Okay, But does the

0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 1>communication involved the conversation that she's asking about. Because my

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>feeling is and this might be a little too much

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:58.120
<v Speaker 1>of a guy thought, My guy thought on this is

0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:01.400
<v Speaker 1>the conversation could ruin this? I agree, and so that's

0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:03.680
<v Speaker 1>where you want to have communication and make sure you're

0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:05.200
<v Speaker 1>both on the same page. So how do you make

0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 1>both happen? I think, like Dean said, it all depends

0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:08.800
<v Speaker 1>on what the conversations are. Like, if you guys are

0:59:08.840 --> 0:59:10.440
<v Speaker 1>talking every other day, then you might need to have

0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:12.360
<v Speaker 1>a talk. But if you guys are talking once a

0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:13.920
<v Speaker 1>week and that one time is to set up a

0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:16.560
<v Speaker 1>date when you guys hook up, I think you're fine. Okay,

0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 1>all right, But I do think Mark has a great point.

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:20.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like, the second you have the conversation, I'm trying

0:59:20.800 --> 0:59:23.360
<v Speaker 1>to think of what it applies. It's like shouting your cat.

0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:25.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like, once you address it, then that's what it becomes.

0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Sort of thing. So it's like if you ask the

0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>person like, hey, so we're just gonna have We're just

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:31.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna hook up with each other and that's gonna be it.

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Another person is like, oh wait, whoa, I don't want

0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:35.000
<v Speaker 1>to hook up with you at all anymore kind of thing.

0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's like it's it's kind of a I don't know,

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe it catch twenty two in a sense, but well,

0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:40.640
<v Speaker 1>why would the other person do not want to hook

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:41.920
<v Speaker 1>up anymore? I don't know, it's just like once you

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:43.680
<v Speaker 1>address it and maybe like they thought that it was

0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:46.160
<v Speaker 1>leading to something more, and then you're very open or not, Like,

0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:48.120
<v Speaker 1>isn't it better than you addressed it early on rather

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 1>than leading him on? Absolutely, So maybe it's best if

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.840
<v Speaker 1>they talk. Okay, you're right on hansation, No, we're not.

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Come on, we need to pick definitive stances here. I think, yeah,

0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you're right, Maybe address it and just be like, hey,

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:00.520
<v Speaker 1>what what we have going on? It is great, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>continue to do what we're doing and not think anything

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<v Speaker 1>else of it. Hypothetically speaking, what if they are talking

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<v Speaker 1>once a week and it is only to set a

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<v Speaker 1>time to hook up, and if that's what she wants,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that's just keep doing that exactly right. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it all depends as long as they're having

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<v Speaker 1>protected sexual intercourse with each other. I agree you just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the friends with benefit. That's where it gets gray,

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that we'll say I go on a

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<v Speaker 1>date and it goes really well, and then I go

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<v Speaker 1>on another day and we end up hooking up. Because

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like, I don't know if that's really fair

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody involved, So just be safe I really haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard much since he said Schrodinger's cat. Can you explain

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<v Speaker 1>that to what? That sounds interesting? You don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that Schrodinger was I don't remember exactly, either a

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<v Speaker 1>scientist or a philosopher from a while ago where he

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<v Speaker 1>devised his experiment where he put a cat in a shoebox,

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<v Speaker 1>and in that shoebox with the cat was like a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of I can't remember what it was, something that

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<v Speaker 1>could kill the cat the second he gets into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically the cat is both alive and dead until

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<v Speaker 1>you open the box to observe the cat. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you open the box and the cat is dead, you

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<v Speaker 1>killed the cat. But if you didn't, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>open the box, then the cat is still presumed alive,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes you innocent in the sense. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>up until up until you observe something for what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be either things beforehand, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you observe it dead, then it's your fault

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<v Speaker 1>for killing the cat. But if you don't observe it

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<v Speaker 1>at all, then your remain kind of innocent in that sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of the thing that I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, until you observe this friends with benefits relationship

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<v Speaker 1>for what it is, it can be either thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you both wanted to be, You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really it's really intelligent. Any we just did that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very impressed with that. Thanks Mark Long, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do another one. This is Marley. Two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, I moved to austrail Ya, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>using apps to meet people. After three days with this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>he said he was looking for someone a seriously date.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't know, I'm mostly looking to meet people.

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<v Speaker 1>Year and a half goes by. We come very close friends. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>one night, we're drinking heavily. We'll go back to his place.

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<v Speaker 1>Things weren't working on his end and he started freaking out.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he wanted to tell me that feelings for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but couldn't understand why this wasn't working with someone he

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<v Speaker 1>actually finally has feelings for, and now it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>What's my problem? I was very supportive. I said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>no big deal. For the next week, we hung out

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<v Speaker 1>every day, but all we did was peck goodbye. When

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<v Speaker 1>he dropped me off. No more action. Finally, ten days

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<v Speaker 1>after the incident, takes me out to dinner, drops me off,

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<v Speaker 1>sends me a text ten minutes later, ending it I

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<v Speaker 1>was shocked. What happened? Did he change his mind that fast?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he just insecure about the incident? Is it possible

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<v Speaker 1>he felt like Jared didn't wasn't ready to be in

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<v Speaker 1>a place where he could be the man who needed

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<v Speaker 1>him to be? Or should I just accept that there

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<v Speaker 1>was no spark? I mean, it is very coincidental that

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<v Speaker 1>after that moment you noticed a definitive change in his interactions.

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<v Speaker 1>Impendence can really mess with the guy's head, Oh, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just like we're men, right, We're supposed to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, strong and tough and like capable, capable exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when you're not, it's definitely demoralizing and embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been there before, it's nothing. Everybody's been there before.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nothing to be ashamed of. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, are you guys since we've all been there,

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<v Speaker 1>like you've been that moment, you've had that moment You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm letting her down. Contrary to this

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<v Speaker 1>situation though, Is it didn't nothing did nothing but make

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<v Speaker 1>me want to prove my ability even more. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of weird that he took the opposite approach

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<v Speaker 1>where he's like, oh, like this went wrong in the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, I'm just gonna avoid it entirely and completely now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it goes back to your theory with the cat,

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<v Speaker 1>where instead of like actually opening the box and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>at the cat's dad, he's like, I'm just never opening

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<v Speaker 1>that box again, and it's going to be out of mind,

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<v Speaker 1>out of sight. That's kind of right. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>feels like maybe there was just no coming back from

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<v Speaker 1>that because there's also the mental game you can play,

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<v Speaker 1>and with this guy might have been playing, like if

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<v Speaker 1>we try again and it doesn't happen again, that's bad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not bad, but it's just, you know, it's a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the thing too is he was probably gonna. He

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<v Speaker 1>knew he was gonna be overthinking it, like in the

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<v Speaker 1>moment he knew he was that he was just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably why it happened to him in the first places.

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<v Speaker 1>He's overthinking. He's like, oh, I have to perform now,

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<v Speaker 1>and like if I don't that, I'm gonna be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>judge and criticize and all that kind of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>like you get that thought process stuck in your own

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<v Speaker 1>head and it's I mean, you could speak to lengths

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<v Speaker 1>about this stuff because I've been there the worst. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is too they say, we were out one

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<v Speaker 1>night drinking heavily, and alcohol has an effect on it,

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<v Speaker 1>huge effect. You know, sometimes when you're too drunk, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just not there. It's interesting that this guy was just

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<v Speaker 1>even unwilling to try a sober I think that for

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<v Speaker 1>Marley's six, she should just kind of forget about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, maybe got some confidence issues if I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what the guy is thinking of that situation

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<v Speaker 1>is how you're going to react, Like that's his biggest

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<v Speaker 1>fear is how you're going to react, even though that

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<v Speaker 1>may or may not be there. There maybe is no

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<v Speaker 1>right or wrong way to react, But that's his fear

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<v Speaker 1>is that you're gonna take it personally, that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to think this is something that he's not attracted to

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<v Speaker 1>you or you it's going to add to your insecurities

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<v Speaker 1>and that's so not what's going on. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing he wants you to think. Yeah, exactly, because Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, guys just generally perk up at the weird

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<v Speaker 1>times throughout the day, and I'm using that turn perk

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<v Speaker 1>up very specifically for one specific thing. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that maybe one time it's not working, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a personal thing that she should be concerned about. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a thing that the guy is going through at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, and I'm sure when he wakes up in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, he'll be perfectly pricked up again. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of yeah, we don't have to get down to this,

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<v Speaker 1>but never mind. I like those conversations. I did too, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's more common than you think. For all the

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<v Speaker 1>women listening to this. Five try not to take it personally.

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<v Speaker 1>If that never happens, even like for a regularly like

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<v Speaker 1>a perfectly capable, regularly functioning guy can still happen, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one in five, baby, well, one in five struggles with

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<v Speaker 1>it regularly. But even the most like fit and testosterone

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<v Speaker 1>filled man can still experience it. Yeah, we all just

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<v Speaker 1>admitted that we've all been through. We've all been there,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of testoster in this room right now,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it feel it years and years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm up right here it comes. I had this friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine that was really close with and things got

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hot and heavy. I had a really bad

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<v Speaker 1>mike rain at the time, and that can hurt things,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know what I mean, and so it was

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<v Speaker 1>really embarrassing, and uh, we just kind of fell asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the next day I didn't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it because you know, my hugo was bruised and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some other stuff going on. We didn't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it for years, and then finally years later, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta clear the air about something because she thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was and I'm like, I was very Indio, very

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<v Speaker 1>very Indio. And then um, five years after that, that

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<v Speaker 1>woman became my wife. The way you're going with the story,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly the ending. I thought it was gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 1>hoping yes, So Somarley should not be worried. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the person's just been Yeah, there we go. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>fun personal tidbit. Mark. Sorry, Easton's relationship with his wife

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<v Speaker 1>started with impotence. That's right. Let's see you wonder one more.

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<v Speaker 1>This one's not as much dating. It's Kylie. Four years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I unintentionally set up two of my best friends by

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<v Speaker 1>inviting them to hang out with a big group, and

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<v Speaker 1>they hit it off. They've didd it on and off

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<v Speaker 1>for the four years, but they are terrible for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Two months ago they finally broke up for good. But

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<v Speaker 1>now they've come to the port where they hate each

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<v Speaker 1>other and can't be around each other. I love them both,

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<v Speaker 1>I like spending time with them, but they ruin every

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<v Speaker 1>time we hang out. How can you be friends with

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<v Speaker 1>two axes who can't stand each other. That's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't hang out with them at the same time, because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't. That's that's the answer. They can't be in

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<v Speaker 1>the same room. That was and hopefully both exers would

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<v Speaker 1>be mature enough to understand that you're gonna stay friends

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<v Speaker 1>with both of them and you're not going to choose.

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<v Speaker 1>There was always an awkwardness. So when I when my

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<v Speaker 1>former girlfriend and I broke up, she was and I

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<v Speaker 1>have a very similar friend group, like there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of overlap. We actually met the similar similar situation just

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<v Speaker 1>through a big group of friends. Um, and when we

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<v Speaker 1>broke up, we didn't necessarily hate each other, but we

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<v Speaker 1>obviously fresh out of a relationship. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the same room as your former boyfriend and

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend all the time, especially at parties and all that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. And so there's always this weird, delicate

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<v Speaker 1>balance that my friends were going through of like I

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<v Speaker 1>can't invite her because Dean's here. I can't invite Dean

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<v Speaker 1>because she's here, like that kind of thing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was perfectly okay with it. I think she was perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>okay with it. But from the friends perspective, it's challenging

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<v Speaker 1>and it's I feel like you have to choose which

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<v Speaker 1>friend you want to hang out with in these situations.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't obviously invite both of them over to the

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<v Speaker 1>party or to your house, whatever it is. You just

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<v Speaker 1>have to either choose a side every occasion that you have,

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<v Speaker 1>or choose a side and stick with it for the

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<v Speaker 1>into into perpetuity. I think you choose a side or

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<v Speaker 1>that seems cold, I know. But when my when we

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<v Speaker 1>when we had a couple of friends who broke up,

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<v Speaker 1>we picked one to stay with and the other one

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<v Speaker 1>is out of our lives. Holy moly. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't we didn't have like a ceremony, But it's just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what happened. I think that maybe what they

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<v Speaker 1>should do is invite both of them to the house

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<v Speaker 1>cage match style, have those you remember American Gladiator, those

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<v Speaker 1>cute things that they would fight with, and you put

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<v Speaker 1>a key in the to the apartment in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the living room, locked the door, and then whoever

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<v Speaker 1>walks out is in your life? Is your best friend?

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<v Speaker 1>Is your best friend forever? Is in your life? Forever? Genius? Genius?

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<v Speaker 1>When we got it, Yeah, Kylie, I I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think pick one. Come on, you can't both of both

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<v Speaker 1>of them, can you know? It's impossible. Because my friend

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<v Speaker 1>was Jeremy. My wife friend was Rachel. They got married,

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<v Speaker 1>they then they got divorced. We were friends with Rachel. Jeremy.

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<v Speaker 1>I text him on his birthday. That's the that's the

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<v Speaker 1>extent of I'm sorry, you got to pick a side.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it will naturally happen over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of time. It will. I think one friend will just

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<v Speaker 1>stay in your life more than the other. Sure, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think before most of those relationships happen,

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<v Speaker 1>you already are better friends with one of them beforehand,

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<v Speaker 1>and typically that's the one that you stay better friends with.

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<v Speaker 1>Posts right, exactly Like in my situation, my friends obviously

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<v Speaker 1>stayed closer with me, and her friends stayed closer with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they wanted me a part of their life, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just one of those things where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever maybe you were closer with before the relationship is

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<v Speaker 1>the person you stayed closer with the post relationship. Totally, totally,

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<v Speaker 1>totally so per last week's episode, what we've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>is if you get on the podcast store, leave us

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<v Speaker 1>a five star review and roast us in the comments.

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<v Speaker 1>We will read those roasts on air at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of every episode. Will last week with an us and

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<v Speaker 1>I did it. This week it's going to be Jared

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<v Speaker 1>and myself and Jared, I've typed out something for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So years are gonna be on the right, miner on

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<v Speaker 1>the left, and we'll just go on for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>A ready, So this is a five star review, and

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Jared is a poor man's DiCaprio in

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<v Speaker 1>the depoted. He doesn't need help dating. He's serving a

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<v Speaker 1>life sentence with some smoke show. Get that man a

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<v Speaker 1>Cranberry juice saying a bad New England accents. That's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what it says right there, And that's not the line,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, what is it? It's I think the

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<v Speaker 1>line is, uh, he's like, what are you drinking? Granberry juice?

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<v Speaker 1>Get him a cranberry juice. That's the line. That's the man.

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<v Speaker 1>That one wasn't bad. I think I think I chose

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<v Speaker 1>some worst roast for me. I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a roast? If somebody says you're a poor

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<v Speaker 1>man's DiCaprio that This kind of leads into a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is titled Oh my God, shut up, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one's directed to me. So, y'all, wal Deane

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<v Speaker 1>has wishy washy little man boy. I've remained a loyal listener. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>this group gives the worst possible dating advice, brings in

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<v Speaker 1>job brownies and whackadoo psychics as guests and continually talk

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<v Speaker 1>over each other. But who doesn't want to waste their

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<v Speaker 1>time with that? And I included that one because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a roast, But then it's also who doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>waste their time with that? So it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>nice way to finish it. Um, all right, we god,

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<v Speaker 1>this one's mine. Jared talks too much and too fast

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<v Speaker 1>while being a walking pop culture reference. I take that

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<v Speaker 1>as a compliment, thank you very much, because he has

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<v Speaker 1>no other references. And let's be real, the pop culture

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<v Speaker 1>references themselves are limited. That's fair. The roast as much

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<v Speaker 1>as honest critiques. Yeah, this one, uh is by Candor

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<v Speaker 1>the Gray and there are some words in it that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably gonna mispronounced. Five star rating, titled extremely vapid.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know the difference between this podcast and a bucket?

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<v Speaker 1>The bucket? Pretty sure? When someone told these three that

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<v Speaker 1>they had faces for radio, it went over their vacuous

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<v Speaker 1>heads and they literally started a podcast. Most of the

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<v Speaker 1>program consists of Dean throwing shade at his co hosts

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<v Speaker 1>through correcting their inferior grammar. We get it, Dean, you

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<v Speaker 1>did well on your S A T S. Jokes on you.

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<v Speaker 1>I only take the A C T S when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the discussion. Lacks both substance and acumen. The

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<v Speaker 1>only glimmer of hope comes from the standout star of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, whom I can only assume is devastatingly handsome Mark, experienced, knowledgeable, shrewd.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark is a force to be reckoned with keeping an

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<v Speaker 1>even keel on this otherwise sinking ship boom, I know

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<v Speaker 1>one more each before he was out here. Um, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>says this one's about Ashley. Of course it is, Jared.

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley was pining over you for years because she never

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<v Speaker 1>got over her obsession with the Backstrey Boys. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>face it, you got the boy part down. And how

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<v Speaker 1>long it took you to date? Wait? How long it

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<v Speaker 1>took you to date her? And how long it took

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<v Speaker 1>it to day her boom roasted toasted roast. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of should have been a man and dated her earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's not a roast all This one settled.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for drowning out the sounds of your youth dying

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<v Speaker 1>by Heidi Heidi rou If you enjoy listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>three most unemployed millennials ignored dating device from experts, this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is for you. Dean is deeply cynical, Jared can't

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<v Speaker 1>commit to anything except his girlfriend, and Vanessa is more

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian than Justin Trudeau. I don't know who that is. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an idiot. I highly recommend listening when you need

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<v Speaker 1>a reason to feel superior in your love life. Five

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<v Speaker 1>out of five stars. Wow. That was kind of nice too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of nice. These are actually surprisingly have

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<v Speaker 1>a little positivity at the end of them. So on

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<v Speaker 1>that note, if you're still listening, leave us a five

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<v Speaker 1>star review and be incredibly mean to us because we'll

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<v Speaker 1>read them on air next week. Um. Big thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to Mark Easton and Eric Up for being in studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Big thank you to Jared talking about his engagement with Ashley. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for more cloud for that. I appreciate you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>which we will probably talk about in every podcast from

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<v Speaker 1>here on out. Perfect. Big thank you to the Thread

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<v Speaker 1>podcast for being a sponsor of this podcast, which obviously

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<v Speaker 1>would not be around without our sponsors. Maybe we can

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor their podcast. I would love to love two of

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<v Speaker 1>us podcast we should. Maybe that's the future, just podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>all sponsoring other podcasts, people helping people. I love it

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<v Speaker 1>and I will I may as well just say this

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<v Speaker 1>on air. I booked a on the way ticket to Tokyo,

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<v Speaker 1>so I might not be coming back. Dean's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>on the next season of Bachelor of Japan. See you there,

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<v Speaker 1>you wait, You'll be in Tokyo for the fourth of July.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be I'm gonna do you know people there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. It's my first ever solo trip, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna I've always been obsessed with Japan, and I

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<v Speaker 1>decided one day I wanted to go, and so here

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<v Speaker 1>we got here. That's pretty exciting. I leave on Sunday. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really exciting. How long is the flight? It's like

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<v Speaker 1>eleven hours. Okay, that's um, but I will be back eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't see you next week because of July four,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jared and Vanessa will be taking over rains come

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<v Speaker 1>the following week. So all right, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. Be sure to tune in for the next

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Help I Suck At Dating when maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>suck a little bit less. Follow Help I Suck At

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<v Speaker 1>Dating with Dean, Vanessa, and Jared on I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>or wherever you listen to podcast