WEBVTT - The King of I Do Part 2, Meghan King

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to I Do Part two. I'm Cheryl Burke,

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<v Speaker 1>one of your celebrity mentors here on the podcast. This

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<v Speaker 1>podcast has been fun for me because I'm an open book,

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<v Speaker 1>as you guys know when it comes to my love journey,

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<v Speaker 1>and on this show, I get to meet other people

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about their own experience with love and heartbreak

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<v Speaker 1>and second acts and how their experiences have shaped them.

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<v Speaker 1>Today on the podcast, I'm going to be joined by

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's had her fair share of heartbreak. You know

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<v Speaker 1>her from the Real Housewives of Orange County. Please welcome

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<v Speaker 1>Megan King to the pod. Well, first of all, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to I Do Part two. Would you say that you're

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<v Speaker 1>in your I Do Phase Part two? Megan?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really. I don't know, Like I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>did that a while ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So part three, I mean part like who's counting?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I already did that. We're talking about the past.

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<v Speaker 2>I Do purchase a while ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, So how is it currently then?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm dating, but like, mainly I'm focusing on myself,

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<v Speaker 2>my kids and money.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, like your career and all of that, like hustling.

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<v Speaker 2>Porting myself and my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I saw your post that it was so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, heartwarming, and reading your caption just felt I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have kids, and I can't relate obviously, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was super just transparent and honest, and I really appreciated that.

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<v Speaker 1>And how was that whole experience with your daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, to be like on a trip with her back. Yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right, Like that was really moving for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that, I like, time with my children individually is

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<v Speaker 2>really special, but I don't often get afforded that privilege

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm a single mother, and I do have help

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<v Speaker 2>because I have to because I'm a working mother. But

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<v Speaker 2>like when I do have help, I take advantage of

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<v Speaker 2>that by not being home, by working right, And so

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm home, I have my three children with me

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<v Speaker 2>at once, and it's really in my head it's always

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<v Speaker 2>like a really special gift to be able to spend

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<v Speaker 2>one on one time with them, and but like I

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<v Speaker 2>never put like a whole lot of effort into that,

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<v Speaker 2>And so when I was able to do this with

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter, I was really looking forward to it. I

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<v Speaker 2>took her skiing in Idaho and it was so amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, it was really easy. One cake, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a cake it was like nothinge it. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like hanging out with a friend, and we realized how

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<v Speaker 2>good of a.

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<v Speaker 1>I am you are.

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<v Speaker 3>I am always like trying to chase my tail all

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<v Speaker 3>the three kids, and when I just had this one experience,

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<v Speaker 3>I realized it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You can celebrate like what you're doing because you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I think that was just like I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you just related to so many moms out there, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do have to ask. I know you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the past, but we need to know

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about your love journey. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>you saying you're being a single mom, and just remind

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners what that in a short few sentences, what

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<v Speaker 1>that is for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was married to my ex husband. We had our

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<v Speaker 2>first daughter together via IVF. We recorded that journey on

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<v Speaker 2>The Real Housewives of Orange County, and shortly after eighteen months,

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<v Speaker 2>to be exact, I had twin boys. And shortly after that,

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<v Speaker 2>I went through a very public scandal slash divorce with

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<v Speaker 2>my ex husband and things have gotten progressively worse since.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's been five years now and I've been five

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<v Speaker 2>years a single mother minus like a little blip on

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<v Speaker 2>the radar there of a big mistake called an annulment,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was literally like three months of my life total.

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<v Speaker 2>And here I am like still navigating the waters of

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<v Speaker 2>single motherhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and do you want to ever maybe play around

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<v Speaker 1>with getting married again or is that just not on

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<v Speaker 1>your radar? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I think like having a life partner for me is

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<v Speaker 2>very important, and I want to hold with someone. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I've learned through my relationship is that there's no

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<v Speaker 2>one who's going to fill a void for me. There

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<v Speaker 2>are voids, don't get me wrong in my life, but

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<v Speaker 2>those voids need to be filled by myself and then

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<v Speaker 2>I can accept someone who's going to enhance my life

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<v Speaker 2>after that, not someone who's going to fill avoid because

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<v Speaker 2>when I allow that void to be filled by another individual,

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<v Speaker 2>that invites me to accept a lot of faults and

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<v Speaker 2>turn a blind eye to red flags. And I realized

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<v Speaker 2>that through some failed relationships, including that annulment that I

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<v Speaker 2>spoke of, and that's not what we're doing anymore. And

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<v Speaker 2>we got this five years. I've done this for five years.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how, but here I am surviving.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like an alcoholic, like I am an addict. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one day at a time. I haven't day in

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<v Speaker 1>three years and I don't. I'm good, I am fine,

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<v Speaker 1>And since my divorce, I'm like, I just have no interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I owe it to myself to date myself after

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<v Speaker 1>being a serial dater for from thirteen till thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>You're master dating. What you're master dating, You're dating.

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<v Speaker 1>Yourself, absolutely, But I owe that to myself. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying this drama free zone in this home that I

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<v Speaker 1>live in, and I have zero interests. But back to you, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what has like co parenting been like for you in

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<v Speaker 1>your ex.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been not co parenting, it's been parenting. And parenting

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<v Speaker 2>is a term that people use when there's very little

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<v Speaker 2>communication or teamwork with the other parents, and it's more

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<v Speaker 2>like one party is parenting and the other party is

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<v Speaker 2>parenting separately. And that's what I've been doing. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is not ideal for the children at all, unfortunately, but

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes that's you know, what the cards have been dealt,

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's it's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see that? How it affects? Because I come

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<v Speaker 1>from a divorce family and my dad was just like

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere to be found. I mean he was he left

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<v Speaker 1>the country, so like there was really no co parenting

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<v Speaker 1>right at all. So until my mom met my stepfather.

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<v Speaker 2>Total single mom situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, for a good solid I would say four

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<v Speaker 1>or five years, like at the prime you know, of

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<v Speaker 1>when I needed a father figure. Most likely have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen it affect Are your kids in therapy or.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they're in therapy? Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's cute, like they love it, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>like a special gift I've given them because I started

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<v Speaker 2>them in therapy before they understood that therapy was a trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so good for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Therapy is just a word that we use, like go

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<v Speaker 2>play outside. It's just natural to them, and they speak

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<v Speaker 2>about it with their friends like it just rolls off

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<v Speaker 2>their tongue. And I love that that they have that

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like so good, which were of normalcy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that they're talking to their friends about it

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<v Speaker 1>because there's there was back when I was that age,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a lot of shame behind therapy, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>you only go there.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew what crazy. I don't know it was when

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<v Speaker 2>I was their age.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Pside board.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my mom, I mean I went. I started at four,

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<v Speaker 1>but like my mom, for her generation, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>way in hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, but where are you from.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from the Bay Area, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You're from California, Like that's progressive. I'm from Missouri.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I went to therapy because I got chi I

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<v Speaker 1>got molested when I was a little girl, so that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a ness different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, you know, yes, so my mom did what

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, she was she was a nurse as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so she knew exactly what to do. Now, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking her generation coming from the Philippines, like that is

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<v Speaker 1>a big no. No. You know therapy in general.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that there's a taboo associated with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Have you found a tribe of women to like

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<v Speaker 1>support you during this time or are you more of

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<v Speaker 1>a person who likes to be alone.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've found I've I have a tribe of people

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<v Speaker 2>and combined men women. But for me, like I think

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<v Speaker 2>like I found a ton of support in women and

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<v Speaker 2>especially my best friend who's also a single mom, who's

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<v Speaker 2>been through and going through a very similar situation to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just nice to be able to relate to

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<v Speaker 2>somebody in the way that I can talk to her

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<v Speaker 2>and say X y Z is happening, and basically what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying is armageddon is happening. And she doesn't react

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<v Speaker 2>like with you know, her jaw to the floor. She

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<v Speaker 2>reacts like, Okay, we can handle this because she understands

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<v Speaker 2>that totally. There's something to be said for someone who

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<v Speaker 2>understands or can can can like absorb and react to

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<v Speaker 2>my trauma in a way that is normal instead of

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<v Speaker 2>like thinking that the world is falling.

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<v Speaker 1>Apart judging or people are like what, yeah, I hear No,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally hear you. And there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people out there like that, you know, without first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all human. Judgment happens, but also like you just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be able to speak about freely about whatever

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<v Speaker 1>is going on without thinking twice about it, especially within

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<v Speaker 1>your circle.

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<v Speaker 2>And not only that, it takes a ton of energy

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<v Speaker 2>to speak about what I'm going through and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>love to relive that I don't really like to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you feel like it heals a little part

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<v Speaker 1>of you every time you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's a sort of release when it's

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<v Speaker 2>the right audience. Otherwise I feel like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A job, I hear you, and do are you in therapy? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I have a weird take on therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>Say more, therapy is very therapeutic, and it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be as the word says.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it depends on who you're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there has to be a relationship and all that,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think therapy is meant to be there until

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<v Speaker 2>you've learned your lesson. And I feel as if, like

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part with my situation with my ex husband,

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned my lessons and I know what they're the

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<v Speaker 2>advice that would be given to me, and therefore, like

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<v Speaker 2>I know how to apply it. It's whether or not I

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Also, I don't know, Like I'm analytical and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm emotionally aware. Sometimes I think that therapy is just

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<v Speaker 2>a waste of time for me because I've already done

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<v Speaker 2>it and got it. I either apply it or I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's different for everybody, right, like for real,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think that. I mean, there's no like check

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll be in therapy for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know that. But that's my situation, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like you're missing an unbiased opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because I get my therapy from other sources, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like a therapist per se, which I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I do see a therapist like intermittently. Yeah, it takes

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, like it's a no.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot. It's heavy. You have to explain everything again,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a whole thing, right, and it's expensive if

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<v Speaker 1>you see, if you're not going.

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<v Speaker 2>Through relationship right, like it has to be the right man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's very important. I mean there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that say, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>tried it and didn't work out for me, And I

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<v Speaker 1>always say try again, you know, because like there's just

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<v Speaker 1>I've been through ten and now I've been with my

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<v Speaker 1>last therapyt or my current one for like almost twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like when you find the right one, you

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<v Speaker 1>stick to it unless she retires or he retires.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a life coach I work with.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's similar to a therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not late, they're not certified, but yes, correct, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're still unbiased. Right. Yeah, that's great, that's awesome. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's transition into dating here. Tell me about your dating life.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I've been in an on and off relationship

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<v Speaker 2>for several years and that's safe and than like comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>and then but like outside of that, I date casually

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<v Speaker 2>and it's fun. I was actually just thinking about this

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days ago. I love falling in love.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like addiction.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it brings something up right.

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<v Speaker 2>One million yeah, and I love it. It's the most

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<v Speaker 2>fun thing ever to fall in love. But like that's

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<v Speaker 2>not that's not sustainable, and that's not it's real in

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, but it's not real in the long term. No,

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<v Speaker 2>And so there's something really special about this relationship that

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<v Speaker 2>I've had on and off for five years that I

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<v Speaker 2>think that, Okay, I'm gonna get deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Here and we love deep.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was in my relationship with my ex, he

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot like looking back, he has some traits

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<v Speaker 2>of what some might think of narcissistic like me, And

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<v Speaker 2>a typical trade of a narcissist is to like love

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<v Speaker 2>bomb and like you fall in love quickly, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>and I did that. That was amazing and then it

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<v Speaker 2>ended poorly for me. But for me, as like a

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<v Speaker 2>late twenty year old, that was how I thought love

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be, and so I think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I still seek in a lot of ways. And that's not,

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<v Speaker 2>like we said, sustainable, and so I'm like trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of that cycle. But to get out of

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<v Speaker 2>that cycle means to like get out of that like

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<v Speaker 2>huge release of serotonin and to like keep you know,

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<v Speaker 2>consistent with like this a stable individual or a stable relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to retrain the brain and that is really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult if like you have to do things that are

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<v Speaker 1>not comfortable, right, that are that you have to be aware,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think you are. Obviously you're saying that you're

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<v Speaker 1>aware of what you were or still attracting, right as

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<v Speaker 1>far as personality traits go, And I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>can relate because I'm just a bad picker because my

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<v Speaker 1>sense of home was abuse, right, So my abuse is

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<v Speaker 1>what I was attracting and people who were unavailable, men

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<v Speaker 1>that were unavailable, And I still can gravitate towards that.

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<v Speaker 1>My lazy brain, I like to say, like my subconscious

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<v Speaker 1>is very used to that. That is my home. I

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<v Speaker 1>was disgusted by nice people, right, So there was that

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<v Speaker 1>because I never experienced that. So I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>with all of this. Obviously I didn't like myself, let

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<v Speaker 1>alone love myself. And then I was like I was

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<v Speaker 1>attracting that type of just people around me, both romantic

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<v Speaker 1>and not romantic. Do you are you active in untraining

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<v Speaker 1>the brain to then train it?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? And I completely relate to what you're talking, like

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of with the the attraction quotient. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that's like a very reveeling part of who we are

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<v Speaker 2>that sometimes we don't want to look at you know, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You are, you are who you were raised by.

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<v Speaker 2>In that too, And it's to break those generational cycles

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<v Speaker 2>and to and to break even not generational like just

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<v Speaker 2>to break like your own life cycles is really difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to stop and it takes. It takes like a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of inner work, and not only that, like a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of being comfortable with myself. And that is the fucking

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<v Speaker 2>hardest part. And I mean to love the body and

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<v Speaker 2>from head to toe, and to love everything about me,

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<v Speaker 2>including my anxiety, including the bad things that I've done,

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<v Speaker 2>and not to love them and not to be proud

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<v Speaker 2>of the bad things, but to say to those things,

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<v Speaker 2>I see you, I understand when you do this, I

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<v Speaker 2>understand how you feel. And this is Okay, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get through this and then to move on from there,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that once I recognize the feelings and

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<v Speaker 2>the person that I am, that allows me to love

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<v Speaker 2>myself more and then to be able to heal totally.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like you have to mother you're inner child,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because that's exactly what it is. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>so amazing that you're very aware of this, and you

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<v Speaker 1>should be proud of yourself, because I am. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to swallow.

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<v Speaker 4>It is, Yes, thank you, I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I have to ask you about this ring post

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<v Speaker 1>on October sixth, to be exact or not? Okay, say more?

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<v Speaker 1>What ring you there showed like an engagement? Was an

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<v Speaker 1>engagement ring? Did that you post it on Instagram?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me look it up?

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe it was an Instagram it was a different

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<v Speaker 1>social platform, but I'm pretty sure it was in October.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on Instagram and it was a ring. Yes, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, you cannot forget about your policy of people

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<v Speaker 1>posting for you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I post my own step.

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<v Speaker 1>October sixth unless you erased it. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was October sixth. It was in October, Okay, come on?

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<v Speaker 1>It was a string it was in a string. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like in a carousel.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a big ring?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a carousel of pictures?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it had to be my big ring.

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<v Speaker 1>October twentieth, per my producer.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, October first, October twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in a carousel, I believe. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>could have just been a ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, I'm looking oh that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that one?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh pretty?

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<v Speaker 1>It is pretty. That's why we were talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Say more, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wish that was mine.

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<v Speaker 1>What I forgot about it? Were you ring shopping? What

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<v Speaker 1>was what was all of that about?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm always ring shopping.

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<v Speaker 1>For an engagement ring. Come on, who's is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder who's that that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that your hand?

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<v Speaker 2>My friends have really beautiful, big ass rings, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just thought I was gorgeous. And by the way, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you know what, I have a really good lie detector.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're lying. But that's okay, you do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like almost psychic. I swear to god. My grandma

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<v Speaker 1>was it's this whole thing. It's like, I am, I

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<v Speaker 1>can smell you from a mile away.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody. Do you think somebody's gonna buy that for me?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah. I mean, I have a poshmark account.

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<v Speaker 1>I can just sell it for you if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not mine, I would know. I wish it was mine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, so you're playing KOI obviously you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say more than that, right, I'm not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like that was just a random picture.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it was my friend's. Like my friends

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<v Speaker 2>have like really big diamonds and I love to try

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<v Speaker 2>them on. And I think I will.

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<v Speaker 1>Be here that you're engaged in one week from today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna murder you.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's who's gonna be Who's gonna be the husband? Cheryl?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I mean, who knows how? So how

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<v Speaker 1>many people are you dating at the same time right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're gonna have to give me some tips here.

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<v Speaker 2>So in my head, I love to date multiples of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Same really, I don't know how you do that in

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<v Speaker 1>my head? I said, oh, that's fine, and you still

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that in my head? How do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm like, oh, I'm a modern woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna date like, oh guys, and like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna like just be free.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot I wish I could. I get I am

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<v Speaker 1>so not like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm monogamous big time.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I have sex with you, you're screwed. You

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<v Speaker 1>might as well marry me.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot to be said for that and say

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<v Speaker 2>and like I try not to be that way, but

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<v Speaker 2>like that's how my brain works, that's how my body works,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't help it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, okay, how are you on a dating app?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I do this? If you were me, if

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<v Speaker 1>we were besties and you were here with me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like it was this friday, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a weekend. See, I'm a hermit. I'm like, I am

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<v Speaker 1>so too comfortable alone with my frenchiet and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the two of us bitches and we're hanging out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So like what would you say? What are the first

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<v Speaker 1>steps when I'm interested in dating? Because I'm just not

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway now, I'm like, you're not interested, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>There's at all for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool, there's nothing you do. You stay in with

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<v Speaker 2>your French gye and you watch Love Is Blind.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I'm halfway through season eight, Like I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, thoughts, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, no, it's not for you, Cheryl, It's not

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You are our audience. So our listeners are very interested

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<v Speaker 1>in this, So say more.

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<v Speaker 2>What the what the audience? What the listeners is? They

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<v Speaker 2>they go, they go on a nap if they want, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think they should, because it's like good to

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<v Speaker 2>look at okay on Hinge and Rayah and they both

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<v Speaker 2>are horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there? Okay? Well why would you say then do

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<v Speaker 1>it when it's horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's good to know what the what? Like the

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<v Speaker 2>pickens are Okay, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>So you're just judging a book by its cover as

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<v Speaker 1>you're swiping through. Okay, got it?

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<v Speaker 2>Books by its cover.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what we do to gain some confidence, like go

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<v Speaker 5>and then go out to in like irl and uh

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<v Speaker 5>huh beeps and.

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<v Speaker 2>Put yourself out there and say like, hey, I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>you're not wearing a ring on your finger. That's bold.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a bold statement, but it's true. Like that starts

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<v Speaker 2>a convo.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they're never like thanks for pointing out the obvious,

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<v Speaker 1>Like okay, is that how we're starting this conversation?

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<v Speaker 2>No, they usually try to like play it cool, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're right. I would totally say that if I was

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<v Speaker 2>a guy yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if they say it to you, you can

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<v Speaker 1>totally steal it.

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<v Speaker 2>They must, you know what, that is a terrible pickup line.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never gotten that response. They must just never get

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 2>pickup lines.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they just must like you. There's no pickup

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<v Speaker 1>line needed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe maybe they.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's just like a high, short and sweet. Has

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<v Speaker 1>dating with kids been tricky for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like the dating part no, but the relationship part. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Have they met anybody other I that you've dated before

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<v Speaker 1>or yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So I've been single since my kids have been one

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<v Speaker 2>and three one and three, And initially I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just like introduce something to everybo and I did,

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<v Speaker 2>like anybody who came to the house to like pick

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<v Speaker 2>me up. Oh Hi, this is my friend Bob or Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>But then once they started having a memory, I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>I stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, kay, what do you mean once they started

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<v Speaker 1>having a memory, they're gonna what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they were three and one and one.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't, like, you know what, my first memory I

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<v Speaker 1>was two, my very first memory.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I'm not saying that like certain things haven't stuck

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<v Speaker 2>with them, but I don't think like Bill and Bob

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<v Speaker 2>and Joe got necessarily going to like lay like deep

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<v Speaker 2>seated memories in there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in therapy. We're good. We're good.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in therapy. But like so, like after a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years, I'm like, Okay, this is done. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I would be married at that point. I thought it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, done, Like they would never have a

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<v Speaker 2>memory without me being and so it was like a

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<v Speaker 2>new thing for me to have to to take that,

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<v Speaker 2>like to make my dating life separate from and which

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<v Speaker 2>I did. And my kids don't have any conscious memory

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<v Speaker 2>of me having a boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just messing with you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's well, I don't care. You can't come at me

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<v Speaker 2>like it's true.

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm never coming at you. I'm just messing around.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have kids, so I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>My first memory was when I was three, I was

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<v Speaker 2>like going down on my bicycle but donnah hill and

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I was scared. I remember that when I was three

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<v Speaker 2>years old. But like I don't remember my mom's friend

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<v Speaker 2>from college.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I hear you. My My first memory was

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>with my real father naked having sex with another woman

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<v Speaker 1>in his apartment. Yeah. That sounds like traumatic. That would

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<v Speaker 1>make it was another Filipino woman. Clearly he had a

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<v Speaker 1>type rest and peace dad. Yeah, so that I'll never forget.

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<v Speaker 1>That was interesting. Okay, so when do you wait? So

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<v Speaker 1>you have three kids, right, yeah, your daughter is the oldest, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>She's eight.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you going to ever talk to them about

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<v Speaker 1>your dating life?

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes? And I do, okay, like very fluid with them. Yeah,

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>in the sense where like they'll but it's different like

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 2>my kids, it's not like they ask about dating. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like in their minds there's friends and there's husbands. There's

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<v Speaker 2>not between And so I'm like, okay, I'm They'll be like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're mommy, will you look for a daddy? Will you

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<v Speaker 2>get it down house? And I'm like no, we're good

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 2>without a daddy. And then we get a mommy.

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Then that's funny.

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 2>Honestly that would be better.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you guys split custody? Like? How does is?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they see their father?

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<v Speaker 2>They? Yes, they see got it?

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, I have this debate going on in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>But also in one of the episodes I did here

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<v Speaker 1>with Heather, our producer, and I said that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming from a divorce family, like I was basically just

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<v Speaker 1>raised by my mom and a couple of nannies, right,

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>But I believe because I'm thinking, like, for me, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to ever have a kid that I'm

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>forty and almost forty one, and I'm I don't want

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to have a kid, like, well, that's obvious naturally, right

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>like that, but like I wouldn't mind possibly maybe having

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>one down the road, right like, and I'm not ready

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>right now whatever. Anyways, the point is that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to raising a kid as a single parent. I

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's almost healthier than doing so with a partner.

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I could see that. I think that if I was

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<v Speaker 2>entering into a relationship where I was starting to have children,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't look at the person as a romantic partner.

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I would look at them as a life partner and

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<v Speaker 2>a business partner more or less. And I raise this child.

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<v Speaker 2>Do our values aligned and you know the ways to

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 2>raise a child? Because yes, like maybe our values aligned

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 2>in the ways of having sex, but you know, or

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 2>financially or whatever, but children, that's a whole different ballgame.

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 2>And there's so many, as we both know, factors that

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>go into a relationship. But when it comes to the children.

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>That is the one thing that like, if it's not

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly aligned and you got and we and you and

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 2>the other person are you know, the proverbial you and

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the other person split up and the children part isn't aligned,

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>that's going to cause tension for the rest of those

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>children's lives, which I'm through. And I did that to

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 2>my children because I was so focused on loving my

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>partner for me and having children for me. I didn't

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:05.959
<v Speaker 2>think about the long term repercussions of if we split,

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>because in my head, we just stay together. That's not

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>how life works necessarily.

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine? I think about this too often. If

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>my parents stayed together, I would have been way messed up,

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>more than I am today, of course, of.

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Course, And like there's so much to be said for that.

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I think, like you have your ideal situation, you know,

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 2>in every you know, potential situation like ooh, a nuclear

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>family with a mom and a dad who love each

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>other for one hundred and million years and blah blah

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 2>blah blah. But like we can only do the best

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 2>with what we are given, and if that's not aligned,

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 2>then that shouldn't that then like we should go elsewhere?

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 2>To like give ourselves, first of all, the best that

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>we can give ourselves, because that's the only way we

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 2>can give the best to our children.

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>When you say that you want to find somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>a life partner, have you has there any has there

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<v Speaker 1>been anybody that's even like come close to that checklist

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of whatever it is.

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question, Cheryl. I. I love to romanticize,

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 2>so I would love to say absolutely, but like I don't. Honestly,

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't at this point, I don't know if that really.

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Exists, because perfect doesn't.

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 2>No, And people are people, like are they gonna? Are

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 2>they gonna be good people and consistent and stable and

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 2>solid and there? And that's scary.

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's scary to expect that because you're bound to

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>then break it, right, Like, the expectations of somebody is

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>not is something that you're That's the thing. It's like

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>we're not Yogi's either. We can't just go into relationships

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>not having expectations, because especially when you're dealing with other humans, right, Like,

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't even imagine. So do you feel like in

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>a way you're gonna wait till your kids are adults

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>until you settle No?

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I like I wanted to be with someone well before

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>now and I'm not. But that's okay, it's okay, and

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy.

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Is it okay?

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's okay, okay, good? Absolutely, are you creating? I

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 2>have this beautiful home. I've decorated it for myself. It's

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>like it's score.

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were in a museum.

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I'm so happy, like in the space that

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I've created for myself and my children.

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Good for you.

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't imagine it being this way. Like there's

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>a big difference in like being happy and then having expectations,

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 2>like they don't necessarily have to.

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Align, no, and it doesn't have to be black and

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>white like that either. Are you content beyond beyond? That's amazing?

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 2>But I still have goals.

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Being content doesn't mean that you're not. That doesn't really,

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can still have goals, it's just not

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and live a drama free, freaking life. And that's what.

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy and I'm not like, okay, so happy

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>is not sustainable, but contentment is. And this is the thing.

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I've I'm not fighting with anybody, I'm not

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>freaking out about something, I'm not being jealous, I'm not worrying.

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not this. It's like the list goes on and

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that my nervous system has finally regulated to

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that point where there's fear. I mean, I'm not going

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to say that I'm not scared, but of course it's

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>all fear related as to why I'm not dating, not all,

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>but a little bit of it. But it's okay. And

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>by the way, it's okay, like give yourself grace. You know.

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Every day I pull a card, and I pull it usually.

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 1>In actually, yes, it's amazing physically. What type of cards?

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 2>So I use a deck of cards from Gabrielle Bernstein. Yes,

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 2>uh huh, she's a this awesome spiritual Yeah yeah, spiritual

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 2>like manifesting death of kind of like taro wish cards.

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>But they're not. And so every day I.

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Shoo affirmations right, correct.

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 2>They're affirmations, that's exactly what we're there. And every day

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I shuffle them and I pull one, and sometimes my

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.359
<v Speaker 2>kids want to pull one. I let each with them

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 2>pull one, and I leave them out in the kitchen

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>for the whole day, and I talk to my kids

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 2>about what it means, and I really try to live it,

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 2>and I start the morning, out with it with my

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 2>coffee every morning, and it's just like a good reminder

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 2>that we're okay in the space that we're in.

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you meditate?

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 4>I do.

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not very good at it.

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? You're not good at it? Though?

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 2>It's hard for me to center my brain, So I

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 2>do it more through breath work.

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I hear you, I hear you. Yeah, I feel the same,

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 1>do you. I mean I studied transcendental meditation. I mean

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I went full on the for that that period as

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.760
<v Speaker 1>soon as I got separated. But it's hard because I

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>am a competitor obviously, you know, my whole life, I

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>compete with myself, and it's like hard to not shame

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>myself when I don't do it twice a day every

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>day for you know, god knows how long, right, yeah,

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes twice a day. It's like then there's like

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>uh oh, then the shame and like I'm like okay.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>So we're working on that though. I mean, it's better

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 1>doing it once a week than nothing at all, right,

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>So we're just taking it one day at a time,

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>like my addiction. So I want to pick your brain

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit before I let you go. Do you

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 1>watch reality TV or is that just not of interest?

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:37.760
<v Speaker 1>You watch Love is Blind?

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I love the trashiest ones only which ones? So like

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>the trashier the better, Like ninety Day Fiance.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I haven't seen that yet. I don't think I

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 1>like trashy though. See I can't even watch the really

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 1>long seasoned one. What's that one called?

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter, you just pop in, I GISs.

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>A lot of my dog gets anxiety when they hear

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>she he hears people like yelling?

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh worth it? So ninety Day Fiance is amazing.

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Love is Blind? I love Traders. Yeah, that's all I

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 2>can think of right now.

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you watch Housewives?

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, Mad saying that I feel bad why I.

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Don't know, you know, I like, I'm a part of

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>this fraternity of sisterhood, and I feel like I'm not

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 2>being supportive.

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I hear you. I mean, look, if it wasn't my

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>job to watch Dancing with the Stars, I don't think

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I would either. So really it's a little bit like

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 1>and that's okay because I think when you know the

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>ins and outs of something, it just doesn't hit the

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 1>same as if, like if I were on Love is blind.

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I probably wouldn't watch it either, because it's kind of like, great,

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 1>they barely use anything that we talked about, you know.

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 2>I could see that also, like in a weird human way,

0:36:56.360 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm I'm like the one who's who

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 2>can't sit at the table. I'm the one who's left

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>out and wasn't invited to the party.

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh do you Is that true?

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Well?

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I'm not on the show, but yeah,

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>it's I mean I've been off for gosh, almost a decade.

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Now would you go back?

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't.

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe yeah. I think like life's really different,

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 2>so it's it's hard to say. You like, I would

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 2>want to be more private with my children now that

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 2>they're older and they like they're individual. Before they were

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 2>just like extensions of me and babies and like just

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 2>goga googa, And now they they're real people with their

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 2>own lives and.

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Problems, personalities and opinions. What do you think of Gretchen

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>coming back?

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited. I think it's great.

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 6>I like, I like them bringing back people, and I think, like,

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 6>I don't know about other franchises, but oh C has

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 6>a really good camaraderie of peace, like I still talk

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 6>to a lot of people, most of them I was

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:06.360
<v Speaker 6>on the show with and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good, feels good. Yeah, I think you would be perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>They should definitely bring you back. I the last time

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<v Speaker 1>I watched Housewives, was you on it? I think, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't. I barely watch television, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I do, it's like in the background, just background noise.

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<v Speaker 1>It as much as blind. Yeah, I've always I pitched

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<v Speaker 1>the president of Netflix recently, I'm like, they should do

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity version and he's like, well, that just won't work,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, but we can. We can make it

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<v Speaker 1>work if we change our voices. Yes, we can. We

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<v Speaker 1>can make it work.

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<v Speaker 2>Change our voices.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like so that the voice wouldn't necessarily like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking to them with.

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<v Speaker 2>The wall robot voice.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't have to. I mean, listen, there's AI nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be a porn porno voice, like I have

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<v Speaker 1>porn star voice. I don't know. Whatever you want, you

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<v Speaker 1>get to choose.

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<v Speaker 2>You just change your name, change your name, or just.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't talk about your career. There's like certain rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, that would be so good, Cheryl.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you go on it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's why I pitched it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't even want to date.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's different when you're dating a wall. I love

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<v Speaker 1>dating walls. I've been dating four walls here in this home.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh until you marry them on love is line?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it's all temporary, isn't it? Just like

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<v Speaker 1>our lives? Okay? Would you go on Traders one million?

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<v Speaker 1>You would be great?

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<v Speaker 2>Which one on which you do it together? Trades or faithful? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can be a trader. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you would be someone that someone would say you're a trader,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I would really be good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>You would be good? Yeah, thank you would be. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have like ten thousand seasons, so don't worry

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<v Speaker 1>exactly we'll be on the ten thousandth one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well hopefully not that far.

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<v Speaker 1>But thank you so much. Thanks for having me, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for being vulnerable, and for everything that you just speak

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<v Speaker 1>speak of. It's not easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved that conversation with Megan, and I just love

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<v Speaker 1>how real she is and you know, she's just honestly

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<v Speaker 1>living day by day. Are you guys navigating what your

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<v Speaker 1>I do? Part two could look like need some dating advice,

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