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Speaker 1: Welcome back to I Do Part two. I'm Cheryl Burke,

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Speaker 1: one of your celebrity mentors here on the podcast. This

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Speaker 1: podcast has been fun for me because I'm an open book,

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Speaker 1: as you guys know when it comes to my love journey,

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Speaker 1: and on this show, I get to meet other people

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Speaker 1: and talk about their own experience with love and heartbreak

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Speaker 1: and second acts and how their experiences have shaped them.

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Speaker 1: Today on the podcast, I'm going to be joined by

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Speaker 1: someone who's had her fair share of heartbreak. You know

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Speaker 1: her from the Real Housewives of Orange County. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: Megan King to the pod. Well, first of all, welcome

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Speaker 1: to I Do Part two. Would you say that you're

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Speaker 1: in your I Do Phase Part two? Megan?

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Speaker 2: Not really. I don't know, Like I feel like I

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Speaker 2: did that a while ago.

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Speaker 1: Right, So part three, I mean part like who's counting?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I already did that. We're talking about the past.

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Speaker 2: I Do purchase a while ago.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So how is it currently then?

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm dating, but like, mainly I'm focusing on myself,

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Speaker 2: my kids and money.

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Speaker 1: Right, like your career and all of that, like hustling.

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Speaker 2: Porting myself and my kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I saw your post that it was so

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Speaker 1: you know, heartwarming, and reading your caption just felt I

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Speaker 1: don't have kids, and I can't relate obviously, but it

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Speaker 1: was super just transparent and honest, and I really appreciated that.

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Speaker 1: And how was that whole experience with your daughter.

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Speaker 2: Oh, to be like on a trip with her back. Yeah, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're right, Like that was really moving for me. I

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Speaker 2: knew that, I like, time with my children individually is

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Speaker 2: really special, but I don't often get afforded that privilege

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Speaker 2: because I'm a single mother, and I do have help

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Speaker 2: because I have to because I'm a working mother. But

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Speaker 2: like when I do have help, I take advantage of

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Speaker 2: that by not being home, by working right, And so

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Speaker 2: when I'm home, I have my three children with me

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Speaker 2: at once, and it's really in my head it's always

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Speaker 2: one on one time with them, and but like I

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Speaker 2: And so when I was able to do this with

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Speaker 2: my daughter, I was really looking forward to it. I

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Speaker 2: took her skiing in Idaho and it was so amazing.

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Speaker 2: First of all, it was really easy. One cake, Oh,

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Speaker 2: he's a cake it was like nothinge it. It was

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Speaker 2: like hanging out with a friend, and we realized how

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Speaker 2: good of a.

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Speaker 1: I am you are.

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Speaker 3: I am always like trying to chase my tail all

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Speaker 3: the three kids, and when I just had this one experience,

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Speaker 3: I realized it's okay.

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Speaker 2: You can celebrate like what you're doing because you're doing

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think that was just like I'm sure

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Speaker 1: I do have to ask. I know you don't want

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Speaker 1: to talk about the past, but we need to know

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Speaker 1: a little bit about your love journey. And you know

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Speaker 1: our listeners what that in a short few sentences, what

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Speaker 1: that is for you.

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Speaker 2: I was married to my ex husband. We had our

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Speaker 2: first daughter together via IVF. We recorded that journey on

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Speaker 2: The Real Housewives of Orange County, and shortly after eighteen months,

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Speaker 2: to be exact, I had twin boys. And shortly after that,

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Speaker 2: I went through a very public scandal slash divorce with

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Speaker 2: And it's been five years now and I've been five

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Speaker 2: but that was literally like three months of my life total.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and do you want to ever maybe play around

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Speaker 2: I think like having a life partner for me is

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Speaker 2: when I allow that void to be filled by another individual,

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Speaker 2: that invites me to accept a lot of faults and

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Speaker 2: that through some failed relationships, including that annulment that I

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Speaker 2: I don't know how, but here I am surviving.

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Speaker 1: I mean like an alcoholic, like I am an addict. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's one day at a time. I haven't day in

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Speaker 1: three years and I don't. I'm good, I am fine,

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Speaker 1: And since my divorce, I'm like, I just have no interest.

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Speaker 2: Really, why not?

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Speaker 1: Because I owe it to myself to date myself after

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Speaker 1: being a serial dater for from thirteen till thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: You're master dating. What you're master dating, You're dating.

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Speaker 1: Yourself, absolutely, But I owe that to myself. Like I'm

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Speaker 1: what has like co parenting been like for you in

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Speaker 2: It's been not co parenting, it's been parenting. And parenting

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Speaker 2: is a term that people use when there's very little

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Speaker 2: communication or teamwork with the other parents, and it's more

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Speaker 2: parenting separately. And that's what I've been doing. And that

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Speaker 2: is not ideal for the children at all, unfortunately, but

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Speaker 2: sometimes that's you know, what the cards have been dealt,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's it's horrible.

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Speaker 1: Do you see that? How it affects? Because I come

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Speaker 1: nowhere to be found. I mean he was he left

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Speaker 2: Total single mom situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for a good solid I would say four

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Speaker 1: seen it affect Are your kids in therapy or.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're in therapy? Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cute, like they love it, and I think

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Speaker 2: like a special gift I've given them because I started

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Speaker 1: That's so good for them.

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Speaker 2: Therapy is just a word that we use, like go

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Speaker 1: I love that they're talking to their friends about it

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Speaker 1: because there's there was back when I was that age,

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Speaker 1: probably a lot of shame behind therapy, you know, like

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Speaker 2: I knew what crazy. I don't know it was when

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Speaker 2: I was their age.

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Speaker 1: Totally, it's so good.

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Speaker 2: Pside board.

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Speaker 1: Well, my mom, I mean I went. I started at four,

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Speaker 1: but like my mom, for her generation, there was no

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Speaker 2: Like, but where are you from.

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Speaker 1: Well, I went to therapy because I got chi I

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Speaker 2: Was a ness different.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, you know, yes, so my mom did what

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Speaker 1: a big no. No. You know therapy in general.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that there's a taboo associated with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you found a tribe of women to like

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Speaker 2: No, I've found I've I have a tribe of people

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Speaker 2: especially my best friend who's also a single mom, who's

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Speaker 2: And it's just nice to be able to relate to

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Speaker 2: that totally. There's something to be said for someone who

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Speaker 2: And not only that, it takes a ton of energy

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Speaker 2: love to relive that I don't really like to talk about.

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Speaker 1: But do you feel like it heals a little part

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's a sort of release when it's

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Speaker 1: A job, I hear you, and do are you in therapy? No?

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Speaker 2: I feel like I have a weird take on therapy.

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Speaker 2: Say more, therapy is very therapeutic, and it's supposed to

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Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on who you're going to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there has to be a relationship and all that,

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Speaker 2: But I think therapy is meant to be there until

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Speaker 2: you've learned your lesson. And I feel as if, like

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Speaker 2: advice that would be given to me, and therefore, like

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Speaker 2: I know how to apply it. It's whether or not I

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Speaker 2: do it. Also, I don't know, Like I'm analytical and

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Speaker 2: I'm emotionally aware. Sometimes I think that therapy is just

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Speaker 2: it and got it. I either apply it or I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's different for everybody, right, like for real,

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Speaker 1: Like I think that. I mean, there's no like check

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Speaker 1: like I'll be in therapy for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 1: I just know that. But that's my situation, right, And

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Speaker 1: do you feel like you're missing an unbiased opinion.

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Speaker 2: No, because I get my therapy from other sources, so

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Speaker 2: it's not like a therapist per se, which I do.

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Speaker 2: I do see a therapist like intermittently. Yeah, it takes

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Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's heavy. You have to explain everything again,

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Speaker 1: like it's a whole thing, right, and it's expensive if

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Speaker 2: Through relationship right, like it has to be the right man.

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Speaker 1: You have to retrain the brain and that is really

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Speaker 1: You are, you are who you were raised by.

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Speaker 2: In that too, And it's to break those generational cycles

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Speaker 2: because I think that once I recognize the feelings and

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Speaker 1: It's just like you have to mother you're inner child,

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Speaker 1: so amazing that you're very aware of this, and you

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Speaker 1: should be proud of yourself, because I am. That's a

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Speaker 1: Now I have to ask you about this ring post

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Speaker 1: What ring you there showed like an engagement? Was an

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Speaker 2: Let me look it up?

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Speaker 1: It was on Instagram and it was a ring. Yes, Oh,

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Speaker 1: come on, you cannot forget about your policy of people

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Speaker 2: No, I post my own step.

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Speaker 1: October sixth unless you erased it. I don't think it

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Speaker 1: was October sixth. It was in October, Okay, come on?

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Speaker 1: It was a string it was in a string. It

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Speaker 1: was like in a carousel.

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Speaker 2: Was a big ring?

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Speaker 1: Was it a carousel of pictures?

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Speaker 2: Well, it had to be my big ring.

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Speaker 1: October twentieth, per my producer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, October first, October twenty eighth.

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Speaker 1: It was in a carousel, I believe. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: Guys, I'm looking oh that one.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that one?

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Speaker 2: Oh pretty?

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Speaker 1: It is pretty. That's why we were talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Say more, I.

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Speaker 2: Wish that was mine.

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Speaker 1: What I forgot about it? Were you ring shopping? What

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm always ring shopping.

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Speaker 1: For an engagement ring. Come on, who's is that?

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Speaker 2: I wonder who's that that is?

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Speaker 1: Is that your hand?

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Speaker 2: My friends have really beautiful, big ass rings, and I

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Speaker 1: You're you know what, I have a really good lie detector.

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Speaker 1: I think you're lying. But that's okay, you do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm like almost psychic. I swear to god. My grandma

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Speaker 2: Somebody. Do you think somebody's gonna buy that for me?

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah. I mean, I have a poshmark account.

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Speaker 1: I can just sell it for you if you want.

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Speaker 2: It's not mine, I would know. I wish it was mine.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, so you're playing KOI obviously you don't want

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Speaker 1: to say more than that, right, I'm not. I'm not

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Speaker 2: No, I think it was my friend's. Like my friends

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Speaker 1: Be here that you're engaged in one week from today.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna murder you.

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Speaker 2: Who's who's gonna be Who's gonna be the husband? Cheryl?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, who knows how? So how

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have to give me some tips here.

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Speaker 2: So in my head, I love to date multiples of the.

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Speaker 1: Same really, I don't know how you do that in

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Speaker 1: my head? I said, oh, that's fine, and you still

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Speaker 1: don't do that in my head? How do you do that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm like, oh, I'm a modern woman.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna date like, oh guys, and like you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna like just be free.

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Speaker 1: I cannot I wish I could. I get I am

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Speaker 1: so not like that.

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Speaker 2: I'm monogamous big time.

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Speaker 1: Like when I have sex with you, you're screwed. You

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Speaker 1: might as well marry me.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot to be said for that and say

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Speaker 1: So, okay, how are you on a dating app?

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Speaker 1: How do I do this? If you were me, if

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Speaker 1: I was just like it was this friday, it was

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Speaker 1: so too comfortable alone with my frenchiet and it's just

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Speaker 1: So like what would you say? What are the first

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Speaker 2: But anyway now, I'm like, you're not interested, Like.

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Speaker 1: There's at all for you?

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, there's nothing you do. You stay in with

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Speaker 2: your French gye and you watch Love Is Blind.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm halfway through season eight, Like I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it, thoughts, but.

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Speaker 2: I know, no, it's not for you, Cheryl, It's not

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Speaker 1: You are our audience. So our listeners are very interested

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Speaker 1: in this, So say more.

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Speaker 2: What the what the audience? What the listeners is? They

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Speaker 2: they go, they go on a nap if they want, okay,

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Speaker 2: which I think they should, because it's like good to

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Speaker 2: look at okay on Hinge and Rayah and they both

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Speaker 2: are horrible.

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Speaker 1: Are there? Okay? Well why would you say then do

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Speaker 2: Because it's good to know what the what? Like the

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Speaker 2: pickens are Okay, got it?

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Speaker 1: So you're just judging a book by its cover as

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Speaker 2: Books by its cover.

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Speaker 5: That's what we do to gain some confidence, like go

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Speaker 5: huh beeps and.

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Speaker 2: Put yourself out there and say like, hey, I noticed

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Speaker 2: you're not wearing a ring on your finger. That's bold.

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Speaker 2: That's a bold statement, but it's true. Like that starts

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Speaker 1: And then they're never like thanks for pointing out the obvious,

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Speaker 1: Like okay, is that how we're starting this conversation?

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Speaker 2: No, they usually try to like play it cool, but

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Speaker 2: you're right. I would totally say that if I was

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Speaker 2: a guy yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean if they say it to you, you can

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Speaker 2: They must, you know what, that is a terrible pickup line.

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Speaker 2: I've never gotten that response. They must just never get

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Speaker 1: I mean, they just must like you. There's no pickup

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Speaker 2: Oh maybe maybe they.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just like a high, short and sweet. Has

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like the dating part no, but the relationship part. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Have they met anybody other I that you've dated before

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Speaker 1: or yeah?

441
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Speaker 2: So I've been single since my kids have been one

442
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 2: and three one and three, And initially I was like, oh,

443
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: I'll just like introduce something to everybo and I did,

444
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: like anybody who came to the house to like pick

445
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: me up. Oh Hi, this is my friend Bob or Joe,

446
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: Bill or whatever.

447
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: Yes.

448
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 2: But then once they started having a memory, I'm like

449
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: I stopped.

450
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: And so, kay, what do you mean once they started

451
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: having a memory, they're gonna what do you mean?

452
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: Well, they were three and one and one.

453
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: They didn't, like, you know what, my first memory I

454
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: was two, my very first memory.

455
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm not saying that like certain things haven't stuck

456
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: with them, but I don't think like Bill and Bob

457
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: and Joe got necessarily going to like lay like deep

458
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 2: seated memories in there.

459
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: They're in therapy. We're good. We're good.

460
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: They're in therapy. But like so, like after a couple

461
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: of years, I'm like, Okay, this is done. I thought

462
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: I would be married at that point. I thought it'd

463
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: be like, oh, done, Like they would never have a

464
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 2: memory without me being and so it was like a

465
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: new thing for me to have to to take that,

466
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: like to make my dating life separate from and which

467
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: I did. And my kids don't have any conscious memory

468
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: of me having a boyfriend.

469
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm just messing with you.

470
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: It's well, I don't care. You can't come at me

471
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: like it's true.

472
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: And I'm never coming at you. I'm just messing around.

473
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't have kids, so I have no idea what

474
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean.

475
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: My first memory was when I was three, I was

476
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: like going down on my bicycle but donnah hill and

477
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: I was scared. I remember that when I was three

478
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: years old. But like I don't remember my mom's friend

479
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: from college.

480
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear you. My My first memory was

481
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: with my real father naked having sex with another woman

482
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: in his apartment. Yeah. That sounds like traumatic. That would

483
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: make it was another Filipino woman. Clearly he had a

484
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: type rest and peace dad. Yeah, so that I'll never forget.

485
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: That was interesting. Okay, so when do you wait? So

486
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: you have three kids, right, yeah, your daughter is the oldest, Yes.

487
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: She's eight.

488
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: So are you going to ever talk to them about

489
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: your dating life?

490
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: Yes? And I do, okay, like very fluid with them. Yeah,

491
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: in the sense where like they'll but it's different like

492
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: my kids, it's not like they ask about dating. It's

493
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: like in their minds there's friends and there's husbands. There's

494
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 2: not between And so I'm like, okay, I'm They'll be like,

495
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: we're mommy, will you look for a daddy? Will you

496
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: get it down house? And I'm like no, we're good

497
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: without a daddy. And then we get a mommy.

498
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: Then that's funny.

499
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: Honestly that would be better.

500
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: So do you guys split custody? Like? How does is?

501
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: Do they see their father?

502
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 2: They? Yes, they see got it?

503
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: You know, I have this debate going on in my head.

504
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: But also in one of the episodes I did here

505
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: with Heather, our producer, and I said that, you know,

506
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: coming from a divorce family, like I was basically just

507
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: raised by my mom and a couple of nannies, right,

508
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: But I believe because I'm thinking, like, for me, obviously,

509
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going to ever have a kid that I'm

510
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: forty and almost forty one, and I'm I don't want

511
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: to have a kid, like, well, that's obvious naturally, right

512
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: like that, but like I wouldn't mind possibly maybe having

513
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: one down the road, right like, and I'm not ready

514
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: right now whatever. Anyways, the point is that I'm not

515
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: opposed to raising a kid as a single parent. I

516
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: think it's almost healthier than doing so with a partner.

517
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: I could see that. I think that if I was

518
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: entering into a relationship where I was starting to have children,

519
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't look at the person as a romantic partner.

520
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: I would look at them as a life partner and

521
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: a business partner more or less. And I raise this child.

522
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: Do our values aligned and you know the ways to

523
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: raise a child? Because yes, like maybe our values aligned

524
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: in the ways of having sex, but you know, or

525
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: financially or whatever, but children, that's a whole different ballgame.

526
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: And there's so many, as we both know, factors that

527
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: go into a relationship. But when it comes to the children.

528
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: That is the one thing that like, if it's not

529
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: perfectly aligned and you got and we and you and

530
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: the other person are you know, the proverbial you and

531
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: the other person split up and the children part isn't aligned,

532
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: that's going to cause tension for the rest of those

533
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: children's lives, which I'm through. And I did that to

534
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: my children because I was so focused on loving my

535
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: partner for me and having children for me. I didn't

536
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 2: think about the long term repercussions of if we split,

537
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: because in my head, we just stay together. That's not

538
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: how life works necessarily.

539
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? I think about this too often. If

540
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: my parents stayed together, I would have been way messed up,

541
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: more than I am today, of course, of.

542
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: Course, And like there's so much to be said for that.

543
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: I think, like you have your ideal situation, you know,

544
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: in every you know, potential situation like ooh, a nuclear

545
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: family with a mom and a dad who love each

546
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: other for one hundred and million years and blah blah

547
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: blah blah. But like we can only do the best

548
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: with what we are given, and if that's not aligned,

549
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: then that shouldn't that then like we should go elsewhere?

550
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: To like give ourselves, first of all, the best that

551
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: we can give ourselves, because that's the only way we

552
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: can give the best to our children.

553
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: When you say that you want to find somebody like

554
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: a life partner, have you has there any has there

555
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: been anybody that's even like come close to that checklist

556
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: of whatever it is.

557
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: That's a good question, Cheryl. I. I love to romanticize,

558
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: so I would love to say absolutely, but like I don't. Honestly,

559
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: I don't at this point, I don't know if that really.

560
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Exists, because perfect doesn't.

561
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: No, And people are people, like are they gonna? Are

562
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: they gonna be good people and consistent and stable and

563
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: solid and there? And that's scary.

564
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's scary to expect that because you're bound to

565
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: then break it, right, Like, the expectations of somebody is

566
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: not is something that you're That's the thing. It's like

567
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: we're not Yogi's either. We can't just go into relationships

568
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: not having expectations, because especially when you're dealing with other humans, right, Like,

569
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. So do you feel like in

570
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: a way you're gonna wait till your kids are adults

571
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: until you settle No?

572
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: I like I wanted to be with someone well before

573
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: now and I'm not. But that's okay, it's okay, and

574
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: I'm happy.

575
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: Is it okay?

576
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: Yes, it's okay, okay, good? Absolutely, are you creating? I

577
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: have this beautiful home. I've decorated it for myself. It's

578
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: like it's score.

579
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: I thought you were in a museum.

580
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm so happy, like in the space that

581
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: I've created for myself and my children.

582
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: Good for you.

583
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: I just didn't imagine it being this way. Like there's

584
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: a big difference in like being happy and then having expectations,

585
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: like they don't necessarily have to.

586
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: Align, no, and it doesn't have to be black and

587
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: white like that either. Are you content beyond beyond? That's amazing?

588
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: But I still have goals.

589
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: Being content doesn't mean that you're not. That doesn't really,

590
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean you can still have goals, it's just not

591
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: and live a drama free, freaking life. And that's what.

592
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm so happy and I'm not like, okay, so happy

593
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: is not sustainable, but contentment is. And this is the thing.

594
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: It's like, I've I'm not fighting with anybody, I'm not

595
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: freaking out about something, I'm not being jealous, I'm not worrying.

596
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm not this. It's like the list goes on and

597
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: I think that my nervous system has finally regulated to

598
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: that point where there's fear. I mean, I'm not going

599
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: to say that I'm not scared, but of course it's

600
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: all fear related as to why I'm not dating, not all,

601
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: but a little bit of it. But it's okay. And

602
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: by the way, it's okay, like give yourself grace. You know.

603
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: Every day I pull a card, and I pull it usually.

604
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: In actually, yes, it's amazing physically. What type of cards?

605
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: So I use a deck of cards from Gabrielle Bernstein. Yes,

606
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: uh huh, she's a this awesome spiritual Yeah yeah, spiritual

607
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: like manifesting death of kind of like taro wish cards.

608
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: But they're not. And so every day I.

609
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: Shoo affirmations right, correct.

610
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: They're affirmations, that's exactly what we're there. And every day

611
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: I shuffle them and I pull one, and sometimes my

612
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: kids want to pull one. I let each with them

613
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: pull one, and I leave them out in the kitchen

614
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: for the whole day, and I talk to my kids

615
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: about what it means, and I really try to live it,

616
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: and I start the morning, out with it with my

617
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: coffee every morning, and it's just like a good reminder

618
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: that we're okay in the space that we're in.

619
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: Do you meditate?

620
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: I do.

621
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: I'm not very good at it.

622
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: What does that mean? You're not good at it? Though?

623
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to center my brain, So I

624
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: do it more through breath work.

625
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. Yeah, I feel the same,

626
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: do you. I mean I studied transcendental meditation. I mean

627
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: I went full on the for that that period as

628
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: soon as I got separated. But it's hard because I

629
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: am a competitor obviously, you know, my whole life, I

630
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: compete with myself, and it's like hard to not shame

631
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: myself when I don't do it twice a day every

632
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: day for you know, god knows how long, right, yeah,

633
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: twenty minutes twice a day. It's like then there's like

634
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: uh oh, then the shame and like I'm like okay.

635
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: So we're working on that though. I mean, it's better

636
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: doing it once a week than nothing at all, right,

637
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: So we're just taking it one day at a time,

638
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: like my addiction. So I want to pick your brain

639
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: a little bit before I let you go. Do you

640
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: watch reality TV or is that just not of interest?

641
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: You watch Love is Blind?

642
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 4: Oh?

643
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: I love the trashiest ones only which ones? So like

644
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: the trashier the better, Like ninety Day Fiance.

645
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't seen that yet. I don't think I

646
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: like trashy though. See I can't even watch the really

647
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: long seasoned one. What's that one called?

648
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, you just pop in, I GISs.

649
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: A lot of my dog gets anxiety when they hear

650
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: she he hears people like yelling?

651
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh worth it? So ninety Day Fiance is amazing.

652
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: Love is Blind? I love Traders. Yeah, that's all I

653
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: can think of right now.

654
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: Do you watch Housewives?

655
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: No?

656
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: That's okay, Mad saying that I feel bad why I.

657
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: Don't know, you know, I like, I'm a part of

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Speaker 2: this fraternity of sisterhood, and I feel like I'm not

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Speaker 2: being supportive.

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Speaker 1: I hear you. I mean, look, if it wasn't my

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Speaker 1: job to watch Dancing with the Stars, I don't think

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Speaker 1: I would either. So really it's a little bit like

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Speaker 1: and that's okay because I think when you know the

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Speaker 1: ins and outs of something, it just doesn't hit the

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Speaker 1: same as if, like if I were on Love is blind.

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Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't watch it either, because it's kind of like, great,

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Speaker 1: they barely use anything that we talked about, you know.

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Speaker 2: I could see that also, like in a weird human way,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm I'm like the one who's who

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Speaker 2: can't sit at the table. I'm the one who's left

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Speaker 2: out and wasn't invited to the party.

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Speaker 1: Oh do you Is that true?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm not on the show, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's I mean I've been off for gosh, almost a decade.

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Speaker 2: Now would you go back?

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe yeah. I think like life's really different,

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Speaker 2: so it's it's hard to say. You like, I would

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Speaker 2: want to be more private with my children now that

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Speaker 2: they're older and they like they're individual. Before they were

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Speaker 2: just like extensions of me and babies and like just

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Speaker 2: goga googa, And now they they're real people with their

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Speaker 2: own lives and.

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Speaker 1: Problems, personalities and opinions. What do you think of Gretchen

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Speaker 1: coming back?

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. I think it's great.

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Speaker 6: I like, I like them bringing back people, and I think, like,

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Speaker 6: I don't know about other franchises, but oh C has

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Speaker 6: a really good camaraderie of peace, like I still talk

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Speaker 6: to a lot of people, most of them I was

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Speaker 6: on the show with and.

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Speaker 1: That's good, feels good. Yeah, I think you would be perfect.

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Speaker 1: They should definitely bring you back. I the last time

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Speaker 1: I watched Housewives, was you on it? I think, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I barely watch television, and if

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Speaker 1: I do, it's like in the background, just background noise.

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Speaker 1: It as much as blind. Yeah, I've always I pitched

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Speaker 1: the president of Netflix recently, I'm like, they should do

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Speaker 1: a celebrity version and he's like, well, that just won't work,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, but we can. We can make it

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Speaker 1: work if we change our voices. Yes, we can. We

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Speaker 1: can make it work.

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Speaker 2: Change our voices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like so that the voice wouldn't necessarily like when

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Speaker 1: you're talking to them with.

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Speaker 2: The wall robot voice.

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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't have to. I mean, listen, there's AI nowadays.

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Speaker 1: It could be a porn porno voice, like I have

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Speaker 1: porn star voice. I don't know. Whatever you want, you

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Speaker 1: get to choose.

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Speaker 2: You just change your name, change your name, or just.

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Speaker 1: Don't talk about your career. There's like certain rules.

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Speaker 2: Wait, that would be so good, Cheryl.

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Speaker 1: I know, thank you?

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Speaker 2: Would you go on it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's why I pitched it.

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Speaker 2: But you don't even want to date.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's different when you're dating a wall. I love

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Speaker 1: dating walls. I've been dating four walls here in this home.

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Speaker 2: Huh until you marry them on love is line?

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's all temporary, isn't it? Just like

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Speaker 1: our lives? Okay? Would you go on Traders one million?

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Speaker 1: You would be great?

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Speaker 2: Which one on which you do it together? Trades or faithful? No?

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can be a trader. I know

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Speaker 1: you would be someone that someone would say you're a trader,

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Speaker 1: like you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I think I would really be good at it.

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Speaker 1: You would be good? Yeah, thank you would be. They're

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Speaker 1: going to have like ten thousand seasons, so don't worry

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Speaker 1: exactly we'll be on the ten thousandth one.

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Speaker 2: Well hopefully not that far.

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Speaker 1: But thank you so much. Thanks for having me, thanks

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Speaker 1: for being vulnerable, and for everything that you just speak

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Speaker 1: speak of. It's not easy.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I loved that conversation with Megan, and I just love

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Speaker 1: how real she is and you know, she's just honestly

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Speaker 1: living day by day. Are you guys navigating what your

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Speaker 1: I do? Part two could look like need some dating advice,

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Speaker 1: Call us or email us, follow us on socials. All

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Speaker 1: the information will be in the show notes. Make sure

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Speaker 1: to rate and review the podcast. I Do Part two

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast where falling in love is the main

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Speaker 1: objective