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Speaker 1: Here on Civic Cyper, I'm your host, rams As Jow,
Speaker 1: joined by Qward and the Mayor of timp Arizona, Corey Wood.
Speaker 1: We are having a conversation regarding the black future of
Speaker 1: a potential Harris administration. We thought that was very important
Speaker 1: because black men are particularly vulnerable this time around, not
Speaker 1: only to misinformation and disinformation, but disillusionment and fatigue and
Speaker 1: the voting process, and so again we felt that this
Speaker 1: conversation was necessary. So for today's episode, beforegoing a lot
Speaker 1: of the segments that we would normally throw to in
Speaker 1: favor of trying to get as much of this information
Speaker 1: to you as possible. Of course, if you want the
Speaker 1: full unredacted conversation, you can visit civicsipher dot com. And now,
Speaker 1: without further ado, myself, rams Is joh Qward and the
Speaker 1: mayor of tympe Arizona, Corey Woods. I want to add
Speaker 1: one more thing right here, because we were talking about
Speaker 1: it before we started recording. Jasmine Crockett is in another
Speaker 1: video doing her clap back, and she pointed out and
Speaker 1: I didn't even know this, but she pointed out that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's name is mentioned over three hundred times in
Speaker 1: Project twenty twenty five. And so, you know, to your
Speaker 1: point about him distancing himself and folks throwing a flag
Speaker 1: on a play, you know, for folks who you know,
Speaker 1: let's say that you do consume. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of our listeners here are conservative. This is something we know.
Speaker 1: It's well established. We appreciate you listening to us because
Speaker 1: I am not that. But it shows me that you
Speaker 1: are open minded, those of you who identify as conservative,
Speaker 1: and it shows me that you are critical thinkers. And
Speaker 1: that's all that we ask of each other. I'm sure,
Speaker 1: So you know, in thinking critically about kind of what
Speaker 1: the situation at hand is and how it could impact
Speaker 1: your life. I just feel it's important to say that
Speaker 1: because if you're consuming content from let's say Newsmax. Not
Speaker 1: sure if that's you, but let's just say you are,
Speaker 1: you might hear Donald Trump repeatedly say that he doesn't
Speaker 1: know anything about Project twenty twenty five. And I think
Speaker 1: that this conversation that we're having with you, Corey Woods
Speaker 1: is important in establishing that, no, that is not accurate.
Speaker 1: His name is in there, and we know he loves
Speaker 1: his own name, so his name's in there over three
Speaker 1: hundred times. He knows what's in there. He might not
Speaker 1: know the intricate details, as you mentioned, but you know
Speaker 1: this was cultivated so that he could have a term
Speaker 1: that would ensure a conservative some conservative momentum in perpetuity.
Speaker 1: And I think that's my base level understanding. Well.
Speaker 3: And two, I'm glad you brought that point up about
Speaker 3: having listeners who are Republicans and who identify as conservatives,
Speaker 3: because I'm in a non partisan job where I represent
Speaker 3: both Democrats and Republicans, as well as independents, Green Party members, libertarians,
Speaker 3: whoever you happen to be in Tempee.
Speaker 2: I'm the mayor for all of you.
Speaker 3: But what I think about what Donald Trump is attempting
Speaker 3: to do, I don't think of it as him being
Speaker 3: a Republican or being a conservative, because a lot of
Speaker 3: the people that I know who are lifelong conservatives don't
Speaker 3: recognize a lot of the stuff that he's actually talking about.
Speaker 3: I view Project twenty twenty five and the agenda that
Speaker 3: he's running on is frankly just maga extremism. I have
Speaker 3: a lot of friends who are identify as Republicans or
Speaker 3: registered Republicans, identify as conservatives and basically say, I don't
Speaker 3: recognize this version of the Republican Party anymore. This is
Speaker 3: not the same party that I join. And when I
Speaker 3: look and see, you know, when I think about the
Speaker 3: late John McCain from his race back in two thousand
Speaker 3: and eight, or I think about when Mitt Romney was
Speaker 3: running for president in twenty twelve, the brand of politics
Speaker 3: that Donald Trumps is nowhere near what those two gentlemen
Speaker 3: actually espoused. It's a when John McCain and Mitt Romney
Speaker 3: ran for president, even though both times I voted for,
Speaker 3: you know, for obviously President Obama, I could go to
Speaker 3: bed at night thinking, if I wake up tomorrow morning
Speaker 3: and one of these other gentleman wins, it might not
Speaker 3: be exactly what I would have liked. And I think
Speaker 3: they'll pursue a very different policy agenda than what I
Speaker 3: would have personally want to do adhere to. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, I wouldn't have been downright afraid. And
Speaker 3: the difference with you know, with Donald Trump, is that
Speaker 3: the things that he's talking about, the agenda that he's
Speaker 3: actually pushing and Project twenty twenty five downright frightens me,
Speaker 3: and I think it worries a lot of Americans because
Speaker 3: and I think what people have to be also very
Speaker 3: clear about two. When I think about former President Trump
Speaker 3: and a lot of what he does, he has a
Speaker 3: way of saying so much stuff and like flooding the
Speaker 3: zone sometimes that people many times don't take him serious.
Speaker 3: And that's what a lot of his you know, supporters
Speaker 3: of the people who do pr for him will always say,
Speaker 3: it's like, well, you know, he's he's just talking. You
Speaker 3: know how he is. He's a showman. You know, he
Speaker 3: was on The Apprentice and you know, you're fired and
Speaker 3: all that stuff. But I think we have to look
Speaker 3: at his track record. I mean, he was the one
Speaker 3: who made these Supreme Court appointments that led to Roe
Speaker 3: versus Wade being overturned, and for the first time in decades,
Speaker 3: women in this country have fewer rights than they had
Speaker 3: back in the nineteen seventies. So I think that people
Speaker 3: can't afford to not take him seriously and say, oh, well,
Speaker 3: he's just joking or he's just playing to the camera
Speaker 3: and he didn't really mean what he just said. I
Speaker 3: think he's proven many times over again that he means
Speaker 3: exactly what he's saying. And I think that's once again,
Speaker 3: while we have to make sure that Vice President Harris
Speaker 3: gets elected.
Speaker 1: I want to add something right here that might be
Speaker 1: even additionally I should say relevant to our listeners, is that,
Speaker 1: you know, the same Supreme Court has weakened what we
Speaker 1: historically understood to be a protection of ours, affirmative action.
Speaker 1: And so these are the outcomes that are shaped, maybe
Speaker 1: not in perpetuity, but certainly for the next generation. And
Speaker 1: we're kind of stuck behind the echo of Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: presidency in a lot of ways because of that Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: So this election is more critical than many folks know.
Speaker 1: And Q makes this point quite a bit that you know,
Speaker 1: every election we always say this is the most important
Speaker 1: election of our lifetime. But in this instance, A, it's true,
Speaker 1: and B we have the proof simply by as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: looking at the Supreme Court and how it's affected women,
Speaker 1: of course and black people. And so I think that
Speaker 1: your point is well made. I just didn't want us
Speaker 1: to get get away from that because that affirmative action
Speaker 1: one is something we did.
Speaker 3: Discuss absolutely, and you know, and I really do. I'm
Speaker 3: kind of old school in a lot of ways. I
Speaker 3: really do appreciate the concept of having two strong political
Speaker 3: parties that can actually debate concepts and ideas. I think
Speaker 3: it's actually really is important to the country. But what
Speaker 3: I've seen former President Trump do is is take the
Speaker 3: Republican Party in a direction that a lot of us
Speaker 3: are not comfortable with. And I think that's why you're
Speaker 3: also seeing a record number of people who worked for
Speaker 3: him at one point in time, people who at some
Speaker 3: point worked for previous Republican administrations or Republican candidates, and
Speaker 3: a lot of folks here locally in Arizona go over
Speaker 3: and say, look, I'm publicly endorsing Vice President Harris. I
Speaker 3: would have never thought in my lifetime that I would
Speaker 3: have seen Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney endorsing Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: But the reality is, I think what they see in
Speaker 3: this situation is someone who really is a threat to democracy.
Speaker 2: And it's not just I.
Speaker 3: Think their perspective is, hey, look, we can work out
Speaker 3: some of this other stuff later. We can't let someone
Speaker 3: back in office who's also just not going to agree
Speaker 3: to a peaceful transition of power, who's going to try
Speaker 3: to undermine democratic norms. As I started this whole thing
Speaker 3: off with saying I lost my first election for public office.
Speaker 3: I didn't try to stage a coup. I simply said
Speaker 3: I lost. I didn't apparently win enough votes to get
Speaker 3: a seat on the city Council. But I didn't try
Speaker 3: to encourage an insurrection on Tempee City Hall, nor would
Speaker 3: I ever so from my perspective, what occurred back on
Speaker 3: January sixth of twenty twenty one is disqualifying behavior to
Speaker 3: ever hold the office of president ever.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 3: I mean, there were people killed, There were police officers
Speaker 3: who were killed during that point in time. And the
Speaker 3: fact of the matter is that there are some basic
Speaker 3: things that we would expect when it comes to upholding
Speaker 3: our constitutional norms of this country and upholding the principles
Speaker 3: of democracy that we all believe in. And one of
Speaker 3: those fundamental things that I never thought I would have
Speaker 3: to say out loud as a forty five year old
Speaker 3: grown man, is you have to accept the outcome of
Speaker 3: the election. I mean, but that is unfortunately the point
Speaker 3: that we are at where we actually have to say that.
Speaker 3: And so and he's already beginning to do this of
Speaker 3: talking about, well, you know, if people don't cheat, there's
Speaker 3: no way that I won't win. I mean, he's already
Speaker 3: sort of sowing the seeds and laying the groundwork to
Speaker 3: contest the election if he doesn't actually prevail. And so
Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's incredibly dangerous behavior. That's
Speaker 3: not about Republican or Democrat or progressive versus conservative. That's
Speaker 3: about people who believe in democracy and people who just don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up January sixth and so
Speaker 4: many other examples that we would have all thought were
Speaker 4: disqualifying but never had to be pen never had to
Speaker 4: be put to paper to lay out that, you know,
Speaker 4: a thirty four time convicted felon or someone who incites
Speaker 4: a riot on our capitol would be disqualified because our
Speaker 4: political norms would never have allowed a person like him
Speaker 4: to become the president of the United State. Dates, so
Speaker 4: as we think about you know, you talked about being
Speaker 4: old school and having two strong parties. When I was
Speaker 4: a child, you know, my mother's best friend was a Republican,
Speaker 4: and the day after the election, we still ate lunch
Speaker 4: together and we were still family because they didn't want
Speaker 4: bad outcomes for us, you know, their family had a
Speaker 4: different list of things they wanted out of a candidate,
Speaker 4: and they voted accordingly, but they didn't consider us the enemy.
Speaker 4: We have a former president now who points to us
Speaker 4: and anybody who doesn't agree with everything he says as
Speaker 4: somehow the enemy of him, therefore an enemy of the country.
Speaker 4: So it's a very different, you know, political divide now
Speaker 4: than when we were younger. When I was a college student,
Speaker 4: I volunteered at the RNC with people who did not
Speaker 4: vote the same way as me, but that were kind
Speaker 4: to me and who wanted good outcomes for Americans. Again,
Speaker 4: they had a different idea of what that meant, but
Speaker 4: they didn't want life to be harder and more difficult
Speaker 4: for me, even though they knew that I didn't vote
Speaker 4: and support the same candidate that they did. As we
Speaker 4: get towards this election, and we are now in the
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, you know, we are now in crunch time
Speaker 4: in the red zone, can you speak to us about
Speaker 4: the importance of not just you know, who we're going
Speaker 4: to vote for as president, but down ballot in Arizona
Speaker 4: and nationally when we're casting our votes, how important it
Speaker 4: is to vote Democrat.
Speaker 2: All the way down the ticket.
Speaker 3: What I tell people many times is how important local
Speaker 3: elections are to your everyday life, because many times people
Speaker 3: in frustration will say things like I'm going to reach
Speaker 3: out to my congressman or I'm going to call my senator.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying those people aren't important. They're absolutely
Speaker 3: critically important. But when I think about just even the
Speaker 3: things that go on at a city level, whether or
Speaker 3: not you feel safe in your community, what's the condition
Speaker 3: of your parks, do you have enough police offices and
Speaker 3: firefighters and human services workers in your city? I mean,
Speaker 3: those are decisions that are made by your local city council,
Speaker 3: and so I sometimes when you get to a four
Speaker 3: page ballot, it's a lot of bubbling names and initiatives
Speaker 3: and judges and things of that nature. The judges of
Speaker 3: what always stumps people. That's where even I get stumped.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a political junkie and I'm around people and
Speaker 3: politics all the time. But usually the judges arrive to
Speaker 3: call some friends of mine in the legal worlds, I
Speaker 3: need some help with this, But frankly, I know how
Speaker 3: critically important those issues are as well where those people
Speaker 3: are because they're determining what the judiciary looks like in
Speaker 3: our state. So I tell people all the time it
Speaker 3: really is critically important to start at the top of
Speaker 3: your ballot, but make it all the way down to
Speaker 3: the bottom. Whether it comes to who's running for president
Speaker 3: or US senator, Congress, or state legislature, school board, city council, judges,
Speaker 3: ballot initiatives, all of those things are critically important.
Speaker 2: To vote on.
Speaker 3: But I think that when I think about right now,
Speaker 3: even let's say the state legislature, when you talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, myself being a Democrat, I really do think
Speaker 3: there are a lot of things that I have been
Speaker 3: that I would like to see even in our state government,
Speaker 3: that we've been trying to get for years. And we've
Speaker 3: had one party control over the House of the Senate
Speaker 3: locally here for decades, and I would like to see
Speaker 3: us not be fiftieth or fifty first when it comes
Speaker 3: to a public funding and educ for education or educated
Speaker 3: for public education funding. And I do believe with a
Speaker 3: Democratic House and Senate down at the state Capitol, I
Speaker 3: think a lot of that would begin to turn around
Speaker 3: very quickly. I know the emphasis that my friends on
Speaker 3: that side of the fence very much place on public
Speaker 3: education and making sure that not only our students, but
Speaker 3: our teachers and administrators have the resources they need. So
Speaker 3: I would like for us to get out of those
Speaker 3: out of that sort of basement when it comes to
Speaker 3: what we actually contribute to public education at our state.
Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is too. I talk to
Speaker 3: people in the business community on a regular basis as well,
Speaker 3: who talk about how difficult did this for them to
Speaker 3: recruit fortune five hundred employers and people to this state
Speaker 3: when they recognize what's going on with our education system.
Speaker 3: They're talking about relocating families with children here, and if
Speaker 3: they look at the education system where they look at
Speaker 3: the funding and say, a lot of folks apparently at
Speaker 3: the capitol do not care about this. They may say, oh,
Speaker 3: the taxes are lower in Arizona, but frankly, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to My employees will not follow us to this
Speaker 3: new location if we don't see something turn around pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: So they're just they're a number.
Speaker 3: I mean, I could probably go on and on, but
Speaker 3: I think that if you are unhappy with the direction
Speaker 3: of education funding in the state, as an example, it
Speaker 3: really is critically important that you make sure to vote
Speaker 3: in your state legislative races, and I do think the
Speaker 3: Democratic Party has the more forward thinking, proactive view when
Speaker 3: it comes to how we fund public education in the state.
Speaker 3: And so that's why, you know, I'm out many times
Speaker 3: knocking on doors, making phone calls, and supporting a lot
Speaker 3: of my friends to make sure that the Democratic Party does,
Speaker 3: you know, for once in quite some time, regains control
Speaker 3: of the State House or the state Senator.
Speaker 2: Frankly, from my perspective both.
Speaker 1: Now let's shift back national before we let you go,
Speaker 1: because I think it's important for us to make sure
Speaker 1: that regardless of if people have, you know, kids that
Speaker 1: attend school, regardless of people visit parks, you know, whatever,
Speaker 1: everyone that will listen to our conversation today is a
Speaker 1: citizen of this country, and by virtue of the fact
Speaker 1: that this is capitalism, they participate in an economy. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, we wouldn't be doing our jobs if we
Speaker 1: didn't at least bring it up. Vice President Harris has
Speaker 1: used the term opportunity economy, and I think that at
Speaker 1: least from there I sit, it sounds special, It sounds
Speaker 1: like something worth peeling back some of the layers. And
Speaker 1: I know that if anyone can do that for the
Speaker 1: benefit of our listeners. It's you, so talk to us
Speaker 1: a bit about an opportunity economy, what she means by that,
Speaker 1: and how it might benefit our listeners.
Speaker 3: So there are a few very specific things. I think
Speaker 3: one when we talk about we talked about housing a
Speaker 3: little bit earlier, but that obviously is a critical thing
Speaker 3: when it comes to adding three million additional homes in
Speaker 3: this country is really critically important when you talk about
Speaker 3: an opportunity economy, giving everyone a chance to obtain home
Speaker 3: ownership if that's really what they'd like to do, but
Speaker 3: just providing more options in general when it comes to
Speaker 3: housing for people of all different incomes and occupations. Her
Speaker 3: perspective is, if you are working in honest day's work,
Speaker 3: you should have the ability to live in this country
Speaker 3: in a comfortable fashion and not have to worry about
Speaker 3: where your next meal is going to come from. It's
Speaker 3: talking about trying to find ways to ensure that there
Speaker 3: isn't price gouging when you think about prescription drug costs.
Speaker 3: I mean, there are people who desperately need some medical
Speaker 3: I mean things as simple as I mean I take
Speaker 3: blood pressure medication every day. I'm sort of genetically predisposed
Speaker 3: to having from family issues to having issues with blood pressure,
Speaker 3: So I take blood pressure medication on a daily basis.
Speaker 3: But you know, sometimes, as we've seen that there are
Speaker 3: prescription drug companies that have artificially inflated the prices of
Speaker 3: prescription drugs that are life saving medications to people all
Speaker 3: throughout this country. And she's really talked about a plan
Speaker 3: to cut down on that kind of price gougeing, which
Speaker 3: I think really is critically important. It's trying to find
Speaker 3: a way to make sure that there are twenty five
Speaker 3: million new small business applications during her term. There are
Speaker 3: so many people, especially African Americans that I talk to
Speaker 3: on a regular basis, who are entrepreneurial and want to
Speaker 3: you know, they may some people want to work for
Speaker 3: a company, and that's fine, but a lot of people
Speaker 3: really want to strike out and do their own thing.
Speaker 3: And I know she's really trying to find ways to
Speaker 3: ensure that small business people get additional tax credits and
Speaker 3: additional assistance for the federal government to make sure that
Speaker 3: their dream of owning a small business or really innovating
Speaker 3: can become a reality. And I just think generally, when
Speaker 3: I think about her plans. She's talked a lot about
Speaker 3: trying to find ways, like we talked about with housing,
Speaker 3: but really to cut red tape for people who want
Speaker 3: to open up small businesses and have an opportunity to
Speaker 3: participate in today's economy, because sometimes, I mean sometimes, I
Speaker 3: mean I see this at city Hall. If you have
Speaker 3: a large business or a large project that you have
Speaker 3: going on, many times you have the ability to hire,
Speaker 3: you know, an attorney that you'll pay one thousand dollars
Speaker 3: an hour or two who can come down to the
Speaker 3: city council and work with city staff and they understand
Speaker 3: what the process is and they can basically do a
Speaker 3: lot of the work for you, provided you can actually
Speaker 3: cut that check. But many times it's the person who's
Speaker 3: the small business person who's just simply trying to get
Speaker 3: a storefront open, who doesn't have access to those kinds
Speaker 3: of resources, of that kind of startup capital, that really struggles.
Speaker 3: And it's not because they're doing anything wrong, they just
Speaker 3: don't have the ability to pay someone at a thousand
Speaker 3: or even five hundred dollars an hour to go down
Speaker 3: to city Hall and advocate and help them kind.
Speaker 2: Of work through all those different processes.
Speaker 3: So when I think about an opportunity economy, I know
Speaker 3: what she's really talking about is trying to find a
Speaker 3: way to level the playing field, to make sure that
Speaker 3: all people have the ability to not only take part
Speaker 3: of the economy, but to achieve health and wealth, and
Speaker 3: not just simply people who might have been either born
Speaker 3: with money or have been handed a tremendous amount of
Speaker 3: money down to them. But it's really making sure that
Speaker 3: people from all different income levels, and all different educational levels,
Speaker 3: and all different backgrounds really have the opportunity to achieve
Speaker 3: if they choose to work hard, really and really put
Speaker 3: in that time.
Speaker 2: And I know that's what she wants.
Speaker 3: It's really about a country and an America that's fairer
Speaker 3: for all people and really making sure to level the
Speaker 3: playing field to make sure that we all have a
Speaker 3: fair equal chance to compete.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that we asked that question. You just
Speaker 1: are a gifted orator and the way you break things down,
Speaker 1: And obviously we've had a chance to hear you speak
Speaker 1: several times. We had some time on the ground in DC,
Speaker 1: and then we're from here, so we see you, you know,
Speaker 1: from time to time, just kind of popping up at
Speaker 1: all the events where there's an audience and they hand
Speaker 1: you the microphone and you do your thing.
Speaker 2: So sometimes they don't even tell me. Actually that makes it. See,
Speaker 2: at least you both told me. I knew where I
Speaker 2: was coming to it. Sometimes I go to a place.
Speaker 3: One thing I've I've learned just as a as a
Speaker 3: funny aside as Mayor is, I'll walk in places and
Speaker 3: I'll before I get somewhere, you know, my chief of
Speaker 3: staff or someone will ask me, you know, are.
Speaker 2: You do you have any speaking points? Mayor. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not expecting to talk at this event.
Speaker 3: They just said, we'll just ask them to show up,
Speaker 3: and I'll show up somewhere, and then I'm kind of
Speaker 3: standing off of the bat, you know, watching Its almost like, hey, Mayor,
Speaker 3: can you come up and say if your words here?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't have anything prepared.
Speaker 3: So you have to learn very quickly how to have
Speaker 3: you know, just a few things in your mind at
Speaker 3: all times, or just sort of to constantly be aware
Speaker 3: of your surroundings because you know, at any point in time,
Speaker 3: someone's gonna pull you out of the crowd and say, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, we want you to talk about our small
Speaker 3: business that we're cutting the ribbon for. We want you
Speaker 3: to talk about all the people that we're feeding through
Speaker 3: meals on wheels at our community center. And you have
Speaker 3: to have the ability to have enough things in your
Speaker 3: head at all different points in time, so if someone
Speaker 3: taps you on the shoulder or grabs you by the arm,
Speaker 3: you have the ability to get up there and speak
Speaker 3: confidently and obviously competently as well about all of those
Speaker 3: different issues. So I appreciate the fact that we set
Speaker 3: this up that I didn't just get pulled. I don't know,
Speaker 3: because I might talk a lot, but as honestly as
Speaker 3: hard if I don't know the subject matter.
Speaker 1: You knowled it in the immortal words of Nate Dog,
Speaker 1: Nobody nobody does it better man, So do us a favor.
Speaker 1: Let's let's leave everyone with you know, your social media,
Speaker 1: just so that they can tap in and get some
Speaker 1: more of that good game from you. Websites, all that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff, so that we have to connect with absolutely.
Speaker 3: I am on Facebook, I'm on X I'm on Instagram
Speaker 3: on Facebook. Could just find me obviously at Corey Woods
Speaker 3: on my personal since we're talking more politics here, my
Speaker 3: personal social media is at Corey Woods Tempee on x
Speaker 3: and at c D Woods seven on Instagram, So I
Speaker 3: would encourage everyone to follow me there if you want
Speaker 3: to hear more about what I've got going on on
Speaker 3: the political side, but also just to get a little
Speaker 3: bit more insight into who I am as a human being,
Speaker 3: because one of the things I really like to do
Speaker 3: on my personal pages is show people more who I
Speaker 3: am as a human but I also want people to
Speaker 3: know where I like to go eat and frankly the
Speaker 3: kind of music I have playing in my car when
Speaker 3: I drive home.
Speaker 1: And that's going to do it for us today here
Speaker 1: on Civic Cipher, I have been your host Rams's ja
Speaker 1: big shout out to Qword and to Corey Woods, the
Speaker 1: mayor of timp Arizona, for stopping through having a fantastic
Speaker 1: conversation with us. If you want the full conversation, of course,
Speaker 1: to yourself a favor, hit the website civiccipher dot com.
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Speaker 1: Woods seven and until next week, y'all peace,