1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Armstrong, and Jettie I know he Armstrong and Yetty. Everybody's conservative. 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: We believe in limited government, and we believe in individual 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: freedom and the rule of law and peace through strength 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: and fis responsibility and free markets and human dignity, the 7 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: things that are all wrapped into this bill. 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: Who is that and what year was that? 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: That's Mike Johnson pretending that this bill is responsible and conservative. 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 4: Was that in nineteen seventy eight? Is the Republican Speaker 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: of the House talking about legislation? 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: Play that again. 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 4: There's a couple of words there at the beginning. I 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 4: don't know the definition of everybody's conservative. 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: We believe in limited government, and we believe in individual 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: freedom and the rule of law. 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: That's a new strength. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 4: What's what the conservative and limited government? I want to 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 4: hear your definitions of conservative and limited government, which Mike 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: Johnson might be conservative and he might believe in limited government, 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 4: but the bill you just passed does not. 22 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: It is not an example of that. No, doesn't represent 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: those principles at all. I guess what a beautiful bill, 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: or as I'd prefer to call it, the ridiculous rotten retreat. 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: BBW. No, that's a different thing, BBB. That's what that's 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: what passed last night, the big beautiful bill. And it 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 4: happened in the middle of the night. And here's here's 28 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: a Fox reporter with a little bit of what's in it. 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 5: What's in this bill. 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: It's huge. 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 5: It makes permanent those Trump twenty seventeen tax cuts, no 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 5: taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime border security. They 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 5: went after waste, fraud and abuse to make up for 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 5: all that loss, and revenue reforms to medicate worker requirements 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: and medicate start in twenty twenty six. That's a huge 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 5: win for those holdouts. Increase is in state and local 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: tax deduction caps that goes from ten thousand to forty thousand. 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 5: That's a big win for Republicans and those high tax 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: blue states. And it also raises a debt ceiling by 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 5: four trillion. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson has to be breathing 41 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 5: a sigh of relief this morning. 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: It's not at all not true what she just said. 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: In fact, it's one hundred percent true. But for the reporter, 44 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: on Fox to let you know about the big beautiful 45 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 4: bill and say it's a win for those Republicans and 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: blue states. Right after they played by the way, it 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: wasn't just us, they played Mike Johnson saying it's a win. 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: For fiscal conservatives. 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: There's nothing that could be less conservative than that salt 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: deduction portion of the bill. 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that's it's just ridiculous. It's ridiculous. 52 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I despise it. It's indefensible. We actually got one 53 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: email saying, guys, I disagree. Yeah, here's a conservative defense 54 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: of the salt degreement. As a conservative, we want smaller 55 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: federal government and more power in the hands of the 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: state and local governments that have a greater and more 57 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: direct impact on our lives. 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I've said that a million times. 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: By deducting our local taxes from our burden of the 60 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: federal government, we're taking power away from that centralized dentity, 61 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: because money really is power in this case of no 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: other chugging off the revenue stream, and theory with a 63 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: fiscally responsible administration for its federal government to work within 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: its means, well, that would be lovely. 65 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: If that's Oh, I'd. 66 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Rather fight locally for what I believe and direct where 67 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: my money goes than try to push the giant flacid 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: rope that is Washington d C. I appreciate the imagery. 69 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't like the word flacid. Get over it. 70 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: So the problem with your argument, though, is that that 71 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: empowers the most egregiously wasteful states. California is not spending 72 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: the money in the way that you reference there, sir. 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: That's the way you're in the way you're describing. 74 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: It's squandering it on handouts to Crony's as this New 75 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: York It's absolutely shameless. 76 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's got it. They have it. 77 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: He had. That person has it completely backwards. 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: It's it's a crime against humanity that red, fiscally conservative 79 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 4: states have to pick up the slack for blue states 80 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: that can run up their tax bills. It's just it's 81 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 4: just absolute unelievable. Anyway, Again, what what Mike Jensen would 82 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: say is there is not an appetite for fiscal conservatism 83 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: in this country. Rush Limbaugh said, how many years ago 84 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: was that? I should ask chat GPT what year did 85 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 4: rush Limbaugh get a fair amount of flack for coming 86 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: out and saying fiscal conservatism is dead. Nobody cares about that. 87 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: I remember when he said it, and it was like 88 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: it hurt my heart. Yeah, but he was just present hinting, 89 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: you know, As George will says, one of the essence, 90 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 4: one of the maybe core tenets of being a conservative 91 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 4: is recognizing what is. Rush Limbaugh was recognizing what is. 92 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 4: There is not a constituency for being. 93 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: Fiscally conservative, and if they've got to tuck that behind 94 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: the curtain and win elections to get done what we 95 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: can get done. 96 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: Until we, you know, collapse in ruin because we spent 97 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: more than we could take in for too long, and 98 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: eventually there's a price to pay for that. Well, you know, 99 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 4: I'm reminded of and I think this is rock solid. 100 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: When Winston Churchill, who spent as you may know, the 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 4: nineteen thirties, howling to anybody who had listened, including his 102 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: beloved in England, that the Nazis were building a war 103 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: machine and were soon to be using it, and nobody 104 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: paid attention to him, or at least they told him 105 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: to shut up, he was wrong. We could negotiate instead, 106 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 4: And then of course the invasion began and the war began, 107 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: and then the very things he'd been pleaing for pleading 108 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 4: for done, and Churchill said famously, nothing changes until you 109 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: get invaded. 110 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: I think the Mike Johnson's of the world is Rush Limbaugh. 111 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: The great Rush recognized back in the time, we'll continue 112 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: spending like Hunter Biden on a coke binge until we're 113 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: actually in a disaster. 114 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: Katie, didn't you tell us he said it in twenty nineteen, so. 115 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 4: Six years ago that he recognized what was clearly true 116 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: then and is even more true now. Yeah, there aren't 117 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 4: votes for being fiscally conservative. So somebody I don't know, uh, 118 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: tweeted out after this, and it's true. It's like when 119 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: it comes to losing weight. I've heard people say you 120 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 4: can't outwork a bad diet. It's the calories you're taking in, 121 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: not the exercise. You got to do both, but you 122 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 4: can't out work taken in on those calories. I think 123 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 4: this is the same premise here. The issue isn't taxes, 124 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: it's spending. The issues isn't taxes, it's spending. The issue 125 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: isn't taxes, it's spending. It repeats that for quite a while. Yeah, 126 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 4: you can, you can deal with taxes all you want. 127 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: It's the spending. You gotta stop spending so much money, 128 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: and there's no appetite for cutting spending. And then Brit Hume, 129 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: who is the senior analyst over at Fox Television and 130 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: really really good, even though he's ancient. 131 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: When I started covering Congress back. 132 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: In the late seventies, I thought the two hardest votes 133 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: you could make in Congress were for war. 134 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: And raising taxes. I was wrong. 135 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: The hardest thing, by far for Congress to do is 136 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: clearly cut spending. That's the one vote you can't take 137 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 4: as a Republican or a Democrat. 138 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: Apparently. Yeah. 139 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the ratification of the idea that the government is 140 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: Santa Claus and Mammi is now. 141 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: It's complete, it's solidified. 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There's no safe like simply Safe. 170 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: One of my. 171 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: Favorite fiscal conservatives is Charles CW. Cook of the National Review, 172 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: who retweeted a GOP that can't simply extend the twenty 173 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: seventeen tax cuts defund Biden's ridiculous green energy blowouts period 174 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: is worthless. In other words, you got the presidency, you 175 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: got the Senate, you got the House. You could have 176 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 4: come in and just done extend the tax cuts, defund 177 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: the green energy period, but nope, had to add in 178 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of other goodies for a variety of people. 179 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: That is going to grow the deficit by how many 180 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: trillion dollars. 181 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: Three trillion over a decade. But those numbers are never 182 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: too conservative? No, no, no, no, yeah, it's. 183 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: It's discouraging, discouraging. You know. I read a great piece 184 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: by Carl Rove. 185 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: I know a lot of folks, you know, despise as 186 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: an old timey Republican needs. 187 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 2: Don't get my brother started on Carl Rove, Oh. 188 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: Boy, I won't, thanks to fair warning. But he wrote 189 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: a piece called how the GOP can win Medicaid. Democrats 190 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: won't let Republicans duck the issue, so go on the 191 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: offensive instead, And I agree with him completely in this 192 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: case GOP silence as the Democrats, and I've got great 193 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: examples of this, try to terrify everybody that, oh, they're 194 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: going to take away healthcare for blind babies, even though 195 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: that's utterly fiction, just complete fiction. But rodwrides GOP silence 196 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: will make the inevitable democratic assault more powerful, and Republicans 197 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: have a lot of ammo with which to prevail on 198 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: this front. And then he goes into some of the numbers. 199 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: But here's a possible script for the Republican Medicaid off offense. 200 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: Start by declaring a strong commitment to save the program. 201 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: We're here to save it because of Democratic policies, Medicaid 202 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: is spending hundreds of billions of dollars on people it shouldn't, 203 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: who are able bodied, in working age. Republicans want this 204 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: assistance to go to the people who is meant for 205 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: the elderly, poor, disabled children, and low income families. Without reform, 206 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: the program on which those Americans depend is at risk 207 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: of rapidly becoming unsustainable. And the GOP should say able 208 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: bodied adults on medication should be required to work or 209 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: look for work, No freeloaders on a program meant for 210 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: the truly vulnerable. That's a great argument, and listen to 211 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: this more fact Jack. 212 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 4: No mainstream media is reporting it that way, though they're 213 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: only reporting eight million people will be cut from their 214 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 4: health insurance, health coverage, or they usually say health care 215 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: rear right, you're. 216 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: Right, like you can't get medicine and you'll just die. 217 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: Right exactly, So this is so interesting. A couple of 218 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: months ago, the Kaiser Family Foundation found that sixty two 219 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: percent of Americans support, and this is a quote from 220 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: the uh poll, sixty two percent support requiring nearly all 221 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: adults to work or be looking for work to qualify 222 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: for medicaid. Thirty eight was a post It was sixty 223 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: two to thirty eight. But if told that such a 224 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: requirement quote could ensure that Medicaid is reserved for groups 225 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: like the elderly, people with disabilities, and low income children, 226 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: it was seventy seven. 227 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: To twenty two. It's an eighty twenty issue. So this 228 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 2: is either a measure of Republican cowardice or yes sting, or. 229 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: How difficult it is to sell something to the American 230 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: electorate in the year twenty twenty five that you don't 231 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: even try to win a seventy seven to twenty two battle. 232 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: Well, I would. 233 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 4: I would be more willing to side with the it's 234 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 4: just hard to do if I ever saw him do it. 235 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: Plenty of Republicans on all these various talk shows on Sunday, 236 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: and I ever see him make that argument try and fail. 237 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, what if your kid said, no, I can't 238 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: do that, son. You haven't even tried, but I can't. Yeah, 239 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess you shouldn't try it. I mean, 240 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: you gotta have your kids taken away. I'll raise them, 241 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: send them my way. I'd be delighted. I got lord, 242 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: it's a seventy seven to twenty two and they don't 243 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: have the balls to fight that battle. 244 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 6: And Trump isn't doing it either. No testicles boo boo. 245 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 6: I say, that's the sound I was making at my 246 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 6: Testla yesterday. I got so mad at Tesla yesterday. I 247 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 6: may sell the cars and and give up on them. 248 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 6: I got so angry at the technology, among other things. 249 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 2: On the way stay here, don't take it. They'll backpedal 250 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: of three from the hym and oh, I think that's 251 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: a two. That is a two. You're right, that's gonna 252 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: be a two. That only tells the game, that ties 253 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: the game. We're going to be going over to you, 254 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: sure are, man. 255 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: There was a lot of build up for Pacers Nicks 256 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 4: because it was such an exciting rivalry way back in 257 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: the day, and I thought, Okay, that's great, same uniforms, 258 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: but none of the players ended up being one of 259 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 4: the best playoff games I've ever seen in my life. 260 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: That's in a lot of guts to come back from 261 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: fourteen late in the game in front of. 262 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: That Madison Square Garden crowd, but they came back in one. 263 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: So look at this kind of a funny notion that 264 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: it was a great rivalry thirty years ago, therefore we 265 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: should be excited. And literally, that's not the same uniforms. 266 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: They've probably changed them. But yeah, right, right, yeah, yeah. 267 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: If it's fun, it's fun. Life. Life is tough. 268 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: Enjoy you know, the things you enjoy. If it's fun, 269 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: enjoy the things you enjoy. Joe gives you permission to 270 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: go out this Memorial Day weekend. Enjoys talking to you. 271 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Enjoy shut up, put money. I was talking to a 272 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: friend of mine last night whose daughter is really into Buddhism, 273 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: and she has taught him that life is suffering and 274 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: and and part of the suffering is we reject change. 275 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: We want stasis, but it'll never we will never get it. 276 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: And so enjoy the love, you know, enjoy the joy 277 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: when you can enjoy. 278 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, when I'm in that mindset, it really works. 279 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: One of my favorite prayers from Saint Teresa of Avila, Uh, 280 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 4: it's very short by one of the lines is everything 281 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: is changing, and that is you know, you can use 282 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: it on both sides when things are not working out. Well, 283 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 4: this is not gonna last, never has in the past, 284 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: and a good thing to remember when things are, you know, 285 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: going well, this isn't gonna last either, so enjoy it. 286 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: Well it's last, This too shall pass. 287 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: Everything is constantly changing, and it's all finding the balance though. 288 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: That's the that's the hard part of life, or at 289 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 4: least for me, it is the balance on everything. Like 290 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: I watched way too much sports when I was younger, 291 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: way too much. I would I could have those probably. 292 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's years that's too sad to contemplate, 293 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: but certainly months of my life watching regular season NFL 294 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 4: games or whatever. I wish I could have that time back. 295 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: On the other hand, watching zero sports pretty much since 296 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 4: I started raising kids. 297 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: I watch an NBA game here. 298 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 4: And there, and I have a really good time for 299 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: a couple. 300 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: Hours, Like I'm really happy. 301 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: Why would I want to deny myself that even if 302 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: it is frivolous useless, has no more meaning. I enjoyed it, 303 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 4: so I don't know. For in charging the batteries, that's 304 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 4: the meaning. Oh, speaking of batteries, here's my one. I 305 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: got so angry at Tesla yesterday and I still. 306 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: Haven't figured it out. 307 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: I'll have to google it today. So I go to 308 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: get in my car. There was a software update. That's 309 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 4: one of the cool things about Tesla is the new 310 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: model just came out overnight and it got downloaded into 311 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: your car and you come out and the tech is 312 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 4: different because they came up with a better way to 313 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: do things. 314 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: Like that happened on Monday. I got in my car 315 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now the blind spot cameras show 316 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: up here to see. Oh, that's cool. They just changed it. 317 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: It is, it is. It's amazing. 318 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 4: But yesterday I get in my car and I gotta 319 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: go pick up my son from school. So I go 320 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: get in my car. I gotta leave right now to 321 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 4: make it on time, and you can't put it in 322 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: drive and it says welcome to the new blah blah 323 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 4: blah something or other. 324 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 2: Download upload the up update the app. 325 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: You gotta be kidding, and it gives me one of 326 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: those whatever you call those things that you have to 327 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: take a picture of to take you to a website. 328 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: Oh, QR code, Yeah, gives me a QR code on 329 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: my screen. 330 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 4: When I get in my car, I do the QR code. 331 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 4: It takes me at a website, then asks me for 332 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 4: information that I don't have handy, and I just say 333 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: screw it and go get my other vehicle where I 334 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 4: put a key in the ignition and drive off anytime 335 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 4: I freaking. 336 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: Want to age. Man, Oh, that made me so mad. 337 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 4: You're gonna leave me stranded here because you updated the 338 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 4: software and improved my life somehow. Af you elon, what 339 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 4: if your kid is bleeding and you're trying to get 340 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 4: to the hospital or like a true emergency. 341 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: That made me so mad, And I haven't figured it 342 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: out yet. 343 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 4: I'm sure I can, but you shouldn't need to go 344 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: through any hoops to get in your car and drive off. 345 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: Oh, I was furious much more to come stay with us, 346 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty whatever. 347 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: You think of Hunter Biden. 348 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 7: And there's certainly a lot of people in this town, 349 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 7: Democrats and Republicans. 350 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: That do not think a lot of him. 351 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 7: There is a certain kind of like cruelty to the 352 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 7: campaign against him. 353 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: Where is Hunter? Where is Hunter? Where is Hunter? 354 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 7: The right wing is going crazy with all sorts of 355 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 7: allegations about Biden and his family, too disgusting to even 356 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 7: repeat here. I mean, some of the ones I've seen 357 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 7: from the President's son and the president some of the 358 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 7: President's supporters are just wildly unhinged. I think that you 359 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 7: came here and leveled a bunch of accusations and allegations. 360 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: About it about Hunter Biden. 361 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: I didn't. 362 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: I just said the facts. 363 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 4: So that's a little montage of Jake Tapper back in 364 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: the day attacking anybody who went after Hunter Biden for anything. Now, 365 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 4: his book has got all kinds of background stuff about 366 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: what a scumbag Hunter was, which he knew at the time. Wow, 367 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 4: and I thought this was interesting. This is a couple 368 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: of more things on the whole. Biden declined cover up 369 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: Jake Tapper book all that it's a giant scandal or. 370 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: It should be. 371 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: One of the biggest scandals in American political history, the 372 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 4: biggest media failure in American history easily, I think. But 373 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: so Tom Bevin, a real Clear Politics wrote another nauseating 374 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: fact about the Tapper Thompson book. They've gotten more media 375 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: in two days than most authors get in a lifetime, 376 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: all of it from liberal media. 377 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: Except for Megan Kelly. 378 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: None of these outlets would have given a minute to 379 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 4: conservatives if they had written the same book. 380 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: Case in point, how. 381 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: Many legacy outlets and networks and late night shows and 382 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 4: podcasts had Miranda Divine of The New York Post, on 383 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: who wrote her book Laptop from Hell, that every bit 384 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 4: of it was true about Hunter Biden's laptop. 385 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: I mean, and this is after it. 386 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: Got proved, prove the cover up that the laptop was true. 387 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 4: This wasn't at the time even though it was true. 388 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 4: This was after even the Washington Post was saying everything 389 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 4: in there was accurate and the FBI and all that 390 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 4: she wrote a book. 391 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: Called Laptop from Hell. 392 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: Didn't get to go on any of these shows or 393 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: podcasts zero And then she responded to those tweets saying, 394 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 4: this is true. 395 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: I did not. Nobody asked me to come on any 396 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: of those shows. 397 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 4: I got zero appearances on any shows, No New York 398 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: Times bestseller list either. 399 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: She said. 400 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 4: The book did launch it number one on Amazon and 401 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 4: still sells its little socks off, which is exactly the 402 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: same as the everybody in America. Two thirds of Americans 403 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 4: knew Biden was too old, but the media didn't cover it. 404 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 4: Most of America understand the laptop story and and. 405 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: Actually bought it. 406 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: See the New York Times bestseller List is a compilation 407 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: of sales and reviews and opinions of what they think 408 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 4: are important books. Amazon is just flat out sales. So 409 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 4: she was number one on Amazon because actual, real people thought, well, 410 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: that's an interesting story that I would like to read about. 411 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: New York Times didn't think it was worthwhile, not even 412 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: worth mentioning. Yeah, and anything. 413 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: I want to give you this quote again. We're talking 414 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: about how Giana scandal, the Joe Biden stuff was Again, 415 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: this is one of the cabinet secretaries from the Taper 416 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Thompson book. I've never seen a situation like this before, 417 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: with so few people having so much power, they would 418 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: make huge economic decisions without calling the Treasury secretary. 419 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: Bah bah bah. 420 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: The evidence is mounting that these aids didn't just hide 421 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: Biden from the public, they hid information from Biden, including 422 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: the reality of how. 423 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: Many elected Democrats wanted him out. 424 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: So you had that small cabal of advisors shielding Biden 425 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: from the world and shielding the world from Biden and 426 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: making all the decisions. 427 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 4: That is amazing, Yeah, Tappa writes, and I'm only she's 428 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: of twenty percent. Through the book, Tappa writes about how 429 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 4: that inner circle had become more about protecting the Biden 430 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 4: family myth than protecting the country, democrats or anything else. 431 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: It was just about protecting the Biden family and that's 432 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: what their job was on a day by day basis. 433 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: Right. 434 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: Well, this reminds me this is another one of those 435 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: situations where there is one response slash excuse that I 436 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: would have to accept. I just wish somebody had the 437 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: guts to offer it up honestly, and that would be Guys, 438 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: what you're suggesting would have brought Kamala Harris. 439 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: To the Oval office, and we. 440 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: Thought that was too terrible, right, which might actually be 441 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 4: the reason, although I think it's more likely that it's 442 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: we really really liked our power. 443 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: We had enormous power, and we grew to like it. 444 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 4: You combine the two, right, you have the one you got, 445 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 4: the Kamala Harris excuse. 446 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 2: We've all done this in our lives. You've got a way. 447 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: To excuse what you want to do that might not 448 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 4: be self indulgence. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Tapra was 449 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: on Morning Joe yesterday. I didn't actually watch it. 450 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: I should. 451 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 4: We had a clip that we didn't play. Tapa was 452 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 4: on Morning Joe explaining that Biden had targeted, had made 453 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 4: a targeted effort to convince Scarborough he was fit for office. 454 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 2: We've talked about this before. 455 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 4: These cable news shows have no ratings, but particularly Morning 456 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 4: Joe on MSNBC is hugely important to Democrats. They actually 457 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 4: get up in the morning and watch that. The Obama 458 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 4: people did, and the Biden people do, and I think 459 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 4: Trump does to a certain extent. But so they have 460 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: an oversized influence on these White houses. And Biden went 461 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: out of his way to make sure Scarborough believed he 462 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: was he was okay. Scarborough talking about on Halprin's show 463 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: about how he sat with Biden for three hours and 464 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: he was sharp at least at that moment, which is, 465 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 4: you know, still ridiculous. 466 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 2: You saw him all the other moments on television. 467 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 4: As as Mark Halprin says, you don't even need to 468 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: have a cable you not only do you not need 469 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: to have a source within the White House. You don't 470 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 4: even need to have cable because it was on se SPAN. 471 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: If you just watch se Span every day, you could 472 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 4: see that Joe Biden was unfit for office. 473 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: Right. I have one more nugget, Oh. 474 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: So Ezra Kline, columnist for the New York Times, who 475 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 4: often makes me insane. 476 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: Because I disagree with him so much. 477 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 4: He did write a piece way back saying that Biden 478 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 4: should not be the nominee and he wasn't fit. 479 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 2: And they need to move on. And he got killed 480 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 2: by the left for it. 481 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: It was a pretty gutsy thing for him to do, 482 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 4: a pretty honest thing for him to do, and he 483 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: got killed for it. And he did an interview with 484 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 4: Jake Tapper yesterday that I have not watched yet because 485 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 4: it just came out y the afternoon, but he writes 486 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 4: this in his column. 487 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 2: I think there is a point here. 488 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 4: Before Biden's announcement, I spoke to Tapper about the book 489 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: and about the ways in which I think that a 490 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 4: cover up would be an almost more comforting explanation for 491 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 4: the group think and denial that characterized Democrats in this period. 492 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: There's a question in here that is relevant beyond just Biden. 493 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 4: How do you see what is right in front of 494 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 4: your eyes when you very much don't want to see it? 495 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 4: So as reclient getting to what since the essence of this, 496 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 4: which we've been talking about for a while, that's the story. 497 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 4: Can human beings want something to be true so much 498 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 4: that you're just blind to what's right in front of 499 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: your face now? Orwell wrote about it eighty years ago. 500 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: I think that's a lot of what. 501 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: Was going on here. 502 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: Some of it was just cold calculated you have no spine, 503 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 4: you don't care about your country lying. 504 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: But I think there's a lot of it. 505 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 4: You didn't want that to be true so much you 506 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 4: convinced yourself that it was a stutter, or that evil 507 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: Trump was exaggerating him and his crowd were exaggerating how 508 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 4: bad it was. I think, yeah, I find myself thinking 509 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 4: about Jake tapperan and owned up to that, though I 510 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: wish he would. 511 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 512 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking about how different people have different needs, 513 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: speaking of rationalizing things for belonging and different levels of skepticism. 514 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: I've talked about my three kids, how they're very different 515 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: from each other. I just need to accept or try 516 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: to understand that there are people whose capacity for self delusion, 517 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: their inability to see what they don't want to see, 518 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: or their ability to kind of squash it and push 519 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: it back so they get the acceptance of the peers 520 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: that they really want their acceptance. It's way, way beyond mine. 521 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: I would be sick the whole time. I think, I'm 522 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: sure there are things I don't recognize, but it's got 523 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: to exist on a continuum. I mean, you look at 524 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: a really impressionable, alienated, whatever, nineteen year old college girl. 525 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: If she gets social reinforcement, she will say anything, She 526 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: will chant anything at Columbia, she'll throw on the kafia 527 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: and and and believe the most. 528 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: You know, like the whole the whole world. 529 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: Is divided into victims and our oppressors, and victims can 530 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: do no wrong and opressures can do no right. 531 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: I've said before, if my dog. 532 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: Espoused a philosophy that's stupid, I'd hit them with a 533 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: rolled up newspaper. 534 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 4: You have a talking dog, and you're hitting it with 535 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 4: the newspaper really sitting on You're sitting on a gold mine. 536 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: So your thing is it'd be cool to have a 537 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 4: talking dog. But if I disagree with it it ain't 538 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: worth well, no, no, not if it annoys me. 539 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: No politics. 540 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: So you can get otherwise intelligent young particularly although I 541 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: look at some of the long haired hippie boomer jackasses 542 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: at various marches and wonder about youth. 543 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 2: But anyway, you can get people. 544 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: To say inane, stupid things if you reinforce it socially. 545 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: You can convince a boy that he's a girl if 546 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: people pat him on the back and say good for you. 547 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: And we people like us, just have to accept that 548 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: there are some people who's whose ability to delude themselves 549 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: is way beyond what we can imagine. 550 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what to do about it except yell 551 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: at him. 552 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: It seems. 553 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: It seems to be just human nature. 554 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: And I assume, like everything else in human nature, it's 555 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 4: a continuum and it varies from person in person, But 556 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 4: it seems to be human nature that we can delude ourselves. 557 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: If we want something to be true. 558 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 4: Here's my here's a great example that I always that 559 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: I think about a lot. And I know I've said 560 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 4: this before, but it's it's worth hearing if you haven't 561 00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 4: heard it. 562 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: So David Frand. 563 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: She's currently a columnist for The New York Times used 564 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 4: to be at the Dispatch. He is a conservative. He 565 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 4: went to Harvard Law blah blah blah. 566 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: Very smart guy. We've had him on the air before. 567 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: I heard him talking about one time he said, I, 568 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 4: like a lot of lawyers when we when you know, 569 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 4: when we're going to law school and we we're going 570 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: to go out into the world of law, wonder about 571 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: how am I going to defend somebody that's done something horrible? 572 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: Even though I understand the whole. 573 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: Justice system and everybody gets a defense and it strengthens 574 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 4: our system, how do you defend somebody who's done He said, 575 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 4: It has never been an issue once because you always 576 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: find a way to justify defending the person you just do. 577 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 4: And I think that's an example of it. You could 578 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: find the way to believe them no, but you find 579 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 4: one aspect of it that you can hang on to 580 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: that can help you justify defend you. 581 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: So it's never a conundrum for your conscience. 582 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: And I'll bet that it's the same thing with the 583 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: whole Biden thing, or lots of things in people's lives, 584 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: but the whole Biden thing, you just needed a nugget 585 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 4: or two, whether it's Kamala or how much you hate 586 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 4: Trump or something that you could justify it and your 587 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 4: and your conscience wouldn't bother you. 588 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: I can hear it unfolding. You rewrite it, and then 589 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: you justify it. You say, yeah, Biden slowed down a step, 590 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: but Trump is the new Hitler. So I'm not going 591 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: to spend my time worrying about that. And so you 592 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: rewrite it into a form that is acceptable and. 593 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: You move on. 594 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, well, you know, we got to call 595 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: people out on it. 596 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: Understanding is not the same as condoning. 597 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 4: No, and Jake Tapper does, and and and until Jake 598 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 4: Tapper finally does an interviewer, he says, I had deluded myself. 599 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 4: I've gone back and looked at this Biden stuff, and 600 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 4: now you know, it's just I can't I can't believe. 601 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: I'm horrified at the things I said on the air. 602 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: Because I didn't see it, and that horrifies me. Yeah, 603 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: that would be worth saying. 604 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: He hasn't come close to that yet. 605 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 4: No, and again, so he said on Megan Kelly the 606 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 4: other day, he said the conservatives were right, the liberals 607 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 4: were wrong. 608 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: You didn't say that in your book. 609 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: You've come to that conclusion in the last two weeks, 610 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 4: when your pr thing it's gone nuts, when people keep 611 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: you tucking you. You thought you would be hailed as 612 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: a truth teller and you're being mocked as a hypocrite 613 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: and a dope. 614 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: That is absolutely right. God, I hope we get an 615 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: interview with him. I can't wait. I can't wait. 616 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go full Tanya Harding for those of you 617 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 4: who've been listening long and. 618 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, she canceled the rest of her tour. 619 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: All right, stick around. I got a question for fancy 620 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: Joe Getty. 621 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: So that is a moniker I've never heard used to 622 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: describe me before. 623 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 4: So I've recently, I feel like I've gotten into espresso, 624 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: which until I was forty five years old I pronounced 625 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 4: with an ex experts lord. 626 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: Room. 627 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: I don't think I knew what it was anyway. I 628 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: just do like. 629 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 4: A capsule sort of thing, you know, when you're cheeryg 630 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: or an espresso or whatever. 631 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: Nothing super fancy. Do you do you do fancy? 632 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 4: Do you like got a machine that like grinds beans 633 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 4: and makes your own this and that and heats up milk, 634 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 4: And do you have one of those is a fancy person. 635 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: I've gone like halfway down that road in the past, 636 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: but I just I don't want to spend the time. 637 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 4: That's the thing. That's what I was wondering, is the time, 638 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 4: because I kind of like. 639 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: MEI coffee is wonderful, fresh ground coffee is just fabulous. 640 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 4: But I kind of like the idea since I don't 641 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: drink so I can't do you know, different kinds of 642 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 4: beers or whiskeys or scotches or. 643 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: Wine or anything like that. 644 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 4: Maybe you know, becoming an espresso freak wray, you know, 645 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 4: buy some good stuff and grind them whatever. 646 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: But if it takes a lot of time, I just 647 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: know I'll never do it. 648 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 4: Somebody sent me a link the other day to this 649 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 4: like thousand dollars william Snoma espresso machine thingy, and I 650 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 4: started fantasizing about that and how cool that would be intervented. 651 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: But if it's gonna take fifteen. 652 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: Minutes of cleaning after every time having an espresso shot 653 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 4: or setting it up or whatever, I just know I'll 654 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: never use it. 655 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 656 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: One of the few advantages to getting a little older 657 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: is I'm more realistic about will I use this? Will 658 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: I be willing to, as you point out, clean it 659 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: the rest of it. 660 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: And I've decided, nah, not for now. 661 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: You know, I could see some day when and if 662 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: I ever retire doing that, because I'll have a little 663 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: more time. 664 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: But no, I haven't bothered. 665 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really really gym equipment. Like would just I think, 666 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 4: sit there on the counter and mock me daily. 667 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: Remember what you spent on me? When's the last time 668 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: you use it? 669 00:33:59,120 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: I do? 670 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: I do have a semi fancy I mean just it's 671 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: kind of just one step beyond the very basic an 672 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: espresso machine and the pods are considerably more expensive than 673 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: a Kurg for instance. 674 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: But it's really really Oh, you gotta tell me what 675 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 2: that is? What is that? What is secret? 676 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: What do you use it? 677 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 4: No, it's then espresso machine and an espresso pods. Oh, 678 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 4: it's it's one step beyond the currig? 679 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: Is what you use it? 680 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: Okay, I see, it's one step beyond the very basic espresso. 681 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: But it's it's not not by much. I can't do 682 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: it froth anything. I might go to the very end 683 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: of it. 684 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 4: I might hire a Colombian who lives in my house 685 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 4: and like he stomps the beans with his bare feet 686 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 4: every morning. 687 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: Grow. 688 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, he brings the beans into my kitchen on 689 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 4: a burrow then puts them up in the thing. 690 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, yeah, you know what. 691 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: You love coffee, and the coffee's wonderful when you do that. 692 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: But you gotta make it one. 693 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 4: Of those cats that craps it out on my counter 694 00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: and then you put it in. 695 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: Oh my god, none, that's a commitment. What do you 696 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 1: got to feed those things? Well, you feed them coffee 697 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: means I think right. Anyway, you put it's crap in 698 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: your coffee. 699 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: There you go. That's fine. 700 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you famously never read directions. I would go ahead 701 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: and read those directions. How Jack die well? Civet cat fever? 702 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: What? 703 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: So coming up next hour, it's going to be a blockbuster. 704 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: This is going to be our Tony or Amy or 705 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: whatever they give out in radio. Not only do we 706 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: have a really good, interesting, and very funny campus madness update, 707 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: but following up on the Jake Tapper discussion and our 708 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: abilities to delude ourselves, do you know what mimetic thinking is. 709 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: I've just learned about this. 710 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: Humans are intensely social animals, and we care even if 711 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: we deny it about our status are standing with others, 712 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: and the things we do or don't do, or say 713 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: or don't say, or believe or don't believe can be 714 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: heavily influenced by that. 715 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 2: Interesting. 716 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 4: I'm sure it's part of an evolutionary survival mechanism that 717 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 4: we need to have Afterbible as a beast. But like 718 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 4: everything else I was talking about earlier, it's about moderation. 719 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 2: Right exactly. It's a question of balance. 720 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: So stay tuned if you can't grab it ya podcast 721 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: Armstrong You Getty on demand Strong and Getty