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Speaker 1: They didn't do any of this. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. He's begging for direction. He's saying, help

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Speaker 1: Wow, pretty amazing story. How do you think this ends?

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Speaker 2: he's put it in writing, he's issued an executive order,

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Speaker 1: Sean, Wow, I really appreciate your time. That's a great update.

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Speaker 1: Mike Cowell, President of the Oversight Project, Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 1: LEO two point Zho Terrell, Senior Counsel to the Assistant

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Speaker 1: Attorney General for Civil RIGHTSS with us. Can you explain

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Speaker 1: this rise of anti Semitism. It's worldwide, it's in the

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Speaker 1: have been hit with tens of thousands of rockets, Having

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Speaker 1: and Israel fighting for its very survival against radical Islamic

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Speaker 1: eleven on one, Why are people having a hard time

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Speaker 1: understanding that Israel, just like America, has a right to

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you for that question, Sean, because I've been

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Speaker 4: spinning again. I have to thank President Trump and Pam

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Speaker 4: BONDI because they have given me the tools to work

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Speaker 4: on combating anti Semitism. Let me ask your question. In

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Speaker 4: rampant as it is right now. Why because you have

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Speaker 4: a well financed organization outside this country, inside this country

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Speaker 4: college in the university. Now we want Cada twelve. I'm

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Speaker 4: not going to mention their name. You've got media aligning

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Speaker 4: don't want to mention their name. CNN, MSNBC, New York Times.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to put Israel in the most unfavorable light.

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Speaker 4: And this college what I call outrageous conduct where they're

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Speaker 4: telling you, thank God for President Trump. The Jewish Americans

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Speaker 4: should be happy that Trump is president. Why because he's

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Speaker 4: been putting up the guardrails to stop it. And I'll

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Speaker 4: If we don't protect Jewish Americans, we're next Sean, and

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Speaker 4: I want to tell you, as an African American, I'm

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Speaker 4: proud of being head of the TAB Force. Why because

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Speaker 4: I know the Jewish Americans stood by Black Americans in

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Speaker 4: the sixty walk with Doctor King. Sound is the NAACP.

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Speaker 4: So I want people to understand this is not a

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Speaker 4: Western civilization issues. And thank goodness for Pam Bondy and

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Speaker 4: Donald J. Trump.

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Speaker 1: You're loving your job. I can hear it in your voice.

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Speaker 1: I've known you a long time.

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Speaker 4: I love it, and I'm proud you understand I'm in

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Speaker 4: a historic moment of time to make a chain for

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Speaker 4: this country. Thank you, President Trump. Thank you Pam Bondi,

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Speaker 4: Thank you Sean Hennity for helping me see the lights

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Speaker 4: and giving me this airtime for Americas to understand my

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Speaker 4: commitment to eradicate anti Semitism and to clean up these

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Speaker 4: cities like watching in DC. Thank you for this airtime.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Leo, because you know what, you make us proud,

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Speaker 1: and you're making a difference, and all of you are

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Speaker 1: making a difference, and we're very grateful. And saving lives

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Speaker 1: is a very noble cause. The Great Leo two point Zeroterrell,

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Speaker 1: Senior Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Leo.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you man, thank.

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Speaker 4: You, thank thank you, Love you John.

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Speaker 1: How about love you back? Eight hundred ninety four one,

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Speaker 1: Shawn our number. You want to be a part of

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Speaker 1: the program,