WEBVTT - Transdermal Implants: Body Art or Nightmare Fuel? 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:03.520 Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of five 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:12.480 Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.319 I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles w. Chuff Bryan over there, 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.040 and there's Jerry over there, and she has a doughnut 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.920 beneath her skin on her forehead, which makes this stuff 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:26.000 you should know the transdermal implant addition, although technically they'd 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:30.600 be subdermal implant, right, you know, good point, there's a difference. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.479 I'm kind of excited about this, are you. I'm excited too, 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.400 because as we record live today, this is the last 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.000 UM full length session of the year. We're doing some 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:47.080 shorties tomorrow and then I'm doing movie Crushes tomorrow and 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.440 that's it. Man, We're done for Like, if you look 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.159 at calendar days, almost three full weeks. You got a 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.600 big day tomorrow, don't you. Yeah, I'm recording a lot 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.520 of shows. That's a lot of episodes tomorrow, five six 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.680 seven episodes tomorrow. So are you sad we're not gonna 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.200 be recording for a little while, are you? Like? Yeah, No, 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.320 I'm super glad. That's fine. I'm not taking a personally 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.360 because I feel the same way now I'm not saying 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.160 I hate all the few people, but uh, it's gonna 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.800 be breaks are really good. Yeah, we get to charge 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.920 us tear the covers off of our textbooks. Yeah, turning 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.400 back in for um a substantially less amount than what 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.399 we paid for him. Yeah we what we After the 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.120 bell rings, we go down the hall throwing all our 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.800 papers around and stuff. Yeah, exactly the best. Everyone's like this, 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.759 Cooper's playing this is work. Yeah. Uh yeah, No, it's 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:37.040 gonna be a great break and uh means good quality 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:41.479 family holiday time. Uh, not having to research stuff. It's 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.520 nice for a few weeks, and then it makes us 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.080 eager to get back and start researching stuff again. And 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.160 not only that, we get to go on the road 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.400 shortly after we get back. That's right, we're gonna baking 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:55.280 in a yeah, shout out, prepare for this. Yeah, we're 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:59.440 doing a show in Seattle the More on January. That 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:03.960 would be the uh, and then we'll be in l 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.520 A for the Hurt podcast towards on Friday. No events 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:11.280 other than that because we're in and out. Then Saturday 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.239 we're gonna be at sketch Fest the Castro. That's the 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.720 live show, brand new stuff. So yeah, it's gonna be 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.440 a big jam, that's right. And then I'm doing a 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.280 movie crush on the nineteenth. And this year, I'm not 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.480 gonna do a single guest talking about a one movie. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.280 I'm gonna mix it up and get the audience involved, 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.600 very nice, Gonna have a slate of people on stage, 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.240 be wandering around the audience with a microphone. I'm having 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.800 a lot of fun. I'm like nervous just thinking about that. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.560 Oh yeah, I'm not even gonna be in the audience 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.200 because I'm not gonna be in town. I'm sorry. But 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.680 the idea of being in the audience and you picking me, 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.280 Oh no, it's voluntary. You know. I'm not gonna just 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.519 stick in someone's face. That's This is the cream of 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.480 the crop of stuff. You should know. Lusters, they're not. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.799 They're not these drunk mainers who jump on the mic 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.200 and Q and A and going off on Maine. Again. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.640 They're nice, But we had a couple of drunkies at 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.400 the end that tried to ruin the show. We totally 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.480 did anyway, Yeah, they're fine. Yeah, it happens from time, 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.480 and it happens from not in San Francisco or Portland, though, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.400 man they know what's up. Or Seattle, Seattle. Sorry, yeah, 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.240 but we're hitting Portland in March. We haven't announced those yet, 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.799 but Portland and Vancouver it looks like, yeah, and then 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.960 we're debating other various places for yeah, right in, let 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.200 us know where to go. Yeah, okay, So off to 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:33.120 transdermal implants, Charles. Yeah, this is one kind of an 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.200 extreme body modification. And I want to go ahead and 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.760 say right off the bat, we don't like to yuck 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.640 people's yums um. We're gonna I'm gonna do this as 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.400 straightforward as I can. But it is hard and some 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:52.000 of these circumstances two uh, to not recoil in horror 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.240 at what you're seeing. But the reason I feel like 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.720 I can say that is I think that's kind of 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.320 the point, right for a lot of these folks because 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:04.760 they want to. They want to sometimes scare your average 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.320 square walking down the street, you know, your l seven. Yeah, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.880 otherwise they wouldn't every picture wouldn't be them going right 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.800 right in the camera lens. A lot of them do that. 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.559 They're inciting a reaction, and I get it. It's fine, 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:21.560 for sure. Yeah, they're they're freaking out the normies. Basically 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.479 not all of them I was reading. I actually looked 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:28.719 up psychology of body modification. It's interesting, And this person wrote, 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:30.880 I think it was from a tattoo place for a 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.160 piercing place. And they're like, despite what most you know, 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:38.160 average people think, there's not some sort of psychological defect 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.040 driving people to do this stuff, but there is some 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:45.279 psychology to it, and frequently the most common explanation for 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.760 doing this a self expression. Yeah sure, I can't really 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.640 fault anybody for that. Sometimes it's kind of like to 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.080 show your affiliation with the tribe or something like that, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.080 like if you're a grinder, which we'll get into, or 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.880 a raver or a goth yeah, or a mook mook 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:04.560 or posse boom. You sound a million years old right now. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:09.520 And then let's see what's the last one. Oh, sexual enhancement. Also, 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.719 can't fault anybody for that one. Yeah, well, we'll talk 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.320 about some of those two. So I I but I 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.080 don't want to leave you high and dry here, because 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.680 like I don't. I don't have any issues with anybody 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:26.080 doing whatever to their own body for whatever reason. Um 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.880 sort of like serious might all illness, And I mean 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.839 I think that does come up, but it's very very rare. Um, 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.720 but I do. If you look at pictures of the 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.640 after or the during, sure it can make one a 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.400 little fainty. Is that what you mean? Yeah, I mean 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.760 we're curious people like if I ever sat down across 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:51.400 from someone with a split tongue and elf ears and 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.400 things like that and say, hey, you know, what's what's 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.360 going on with that? Let's say you say, how about 0:05:56.360 --> 0:06:01.080 them cubbies that's big baseball fans, right, No, I'd want 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.760 to pick their brain a little bit, and and the 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.320 likely response, like you said, would be, it's just self expression. Man, 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.840 this is just how I feel I want to project myself. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.480 He's like, you want to project as a to be 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.320 old bearded guy. Yeah, you're gross. So we're just kind 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.400 of we're dropping in on a subculture that we're not 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.800 affiliated with in any way ship perform but we're also 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.680 this is until like paradeum around um and been pointing 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.400 gawk and Latin. So if you if you're here for that, 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:34.360 move along, that's right. Okay, alright, boy, these are weirdos kidding. 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:38.800 So we're talking specifically about transdermal implants, which we'll get to, 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.120 but those are a I think you said, an extreme 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.480 form of body modification. Yeah, E, B and yeah E. 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.919 It's very important. This is not to be confused with 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.680 the mountain dew version of extreme. There's an E at 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.680 the beginning of that word, which legitimizes the whole thing tremendously. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.560 You know what I'm saying. You were a child of 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.240 the nineties, You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, even 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.719 though I've never had a mount and do what never? 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.599 I don't think I've ever tasted mountain dew? What about 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.320 mellow yellow? I think I might have had a couple 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:09.960 of those when I was a kid. Okay, well, then 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.520 you're fine. You're covered about the same virtually the same thing. 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.240 Although mountain dew is branched out. They have some new 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.800 freaky stuff. They got all kinds of colors and flavors. Now, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.080 so there's one that's blue that you me accidentally got 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.560 from a vending machine the other day and brought home 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:27.560 and I was like, I can't touch this, but I'll 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.840 bet you'd like to drink blue stuff. This is the 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.320 epitome of blue stuff that you shouldn't drink. But it's 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.040 like highly addictive. The taste is like Oh, it's awful. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.640 I want another sip. That's so weird. But it's a 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:46.280 very addictive cotton candyish taste with a little bit of 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.800 blue raspberry mix and I'm not sure what it is, 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.640 but it's my brain is still like quivering from it. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.120 And this is like a week ago. I don't know 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.320 what a blue raspberry is, so I'm already confused, but 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.760 I really you gotta think, Chuck. There are people who 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.280 do engage in transdermal iplain listening to this and they're like, 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:05.360 these guys are talking about the wildest experience they've had recently, 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.960 and it was Blue Mountain. Yeah, that's how. That's where. 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.240 This is our stage in life that we're in. Ye, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.280 that's fine, I'm comfortable with that, Okay. So it's an 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:18.960 extreme foreign body modification, which is a larger umbrella that 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.560 covers a lot of different stuff and some stuff that's 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:26.280 been around a really long time, like tattooing, piercing, gauging. Yeah, 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.520 so you know it gauging like it's there's like a 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.520 hole in your ear and you can make it pretty 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.520 pretty big. That's actually, you know, a traditional custom that 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.280 dates back a very long time in our pal Letsie 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.400 apparently had zero gauge years really, Yeah, he was from 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.600 what five thousands something years before. Yeah, and I've also 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.720 seen it in the lip Yeah, the cultures that have 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.040 the disc inserted in the lip um. So, yeah, this 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.680 is something that is it is very important to point 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:57.920 out that it is our Western culture. To us, it's like, oh, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:02.360 this new thing that these kids are doing, but for tattoos, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.640 like for thousands of years other cultures across the world 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.920 have done similar things like that, right, And that also 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.200 raises a really important point to um. Body modification can 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.640 also include something like a pierced ear or a nose job, 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:19.959 or getting an eyelid job and a little nippit or tuck. Sure, 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:24.920 and these are typically people modifying their body to reach 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.240 h some sort of ideal of social ideal of beauty, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.760 a norm of beauty that they feel like they don't 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.679 have naturally. So they're modifying their bodies with extreme body 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:40.360 modification like trans germal implants. It's the intention is to 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.560 go the other way, but it's still like on the 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.719 same coin, it's just a different side of that same coin. Right. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.000 It's a beautiful thing to them, but I think they 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.880 realize that it's going to freak out the normy. That's right. 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.840 So it's win win, Yeah, it is, um. So there. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.240 You know, we're not going to get into all these 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:01.120 because this is mainly on uh, these instrumal implants, but 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:06.240 we do need to mention things like beating. Um, we've 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.640 talked about the tongue splitting. Do you know what beating is? Yeah, 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.520 go ahead, Oh you're gonna lay it on me. I 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.760 was trying to lay it on you. So that's hell fair. Um. 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:20.440 Beating or genital beating or pearling is inserting like a 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.680 bead or something beneath the skin or on the top 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.640 of the skin, or somewhere under the skin on the penis. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:32.400 And that is a million percent for sexual enhancement, for 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.520 her pleasure terms you know what they used to say. 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.240 That's what it's said on the bathroom wall of the 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:43.040 gas station. No, it was like ribbed, Yeah, for her pleasure. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.520 They also have ribs instead of pearls, but so like 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:52.240 a ribbed penis. But those are subdermal implants. They're they're 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.400 meant to be under the skin. They're not supposed to 0:10:54.679 --> 0:11:00.000 break the skin. Again of the genitals. That it's true, 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:04.800 which what the tongue splitting. Apparently there's one form of 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.120 tongue tongue splitting you can do where you have movement 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.959 over both sides. Oh no, like independently. I think. So 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.760 that's pretty I haven't seen it in action, like on YouTube, 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:18.240 but I read that a couple of hours ago, and 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.480 I did not go to YouTube on purpose. Right, Yeah, 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.040 I've suffered quite a bit the last couple of days 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.520 from my curiosity getting the best of me. And then 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.320 there's the subdermal implant like you were talking about, which 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.559 is different. If you've ever seen anyone that looks like 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.120 they are what what are the Star Trek? Is it 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:42.600 a cling on that has the big puffy I'm not 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:46.320 a Star Trek guy, so um, but whichever one's have 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.520 the very prominent brow. A lot of times, these subdermal 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.000 implants can look like that is something under the skin. Um, 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.000 that's a shape of something like I saw actually saw 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.680 pretty cool and on the top of a guy's hand 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:05.160 he had a skull under his skin. Yeah. I was like, 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.040 that's kind of awesome. It seems like transdermal implants. There 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.080 were subdermal implants first, and then transdermal implants kind of 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.599 made a splash, and then everybody's like, this is too dangerous. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.120 Let's go back to subdermal implants. And now those are 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.240 a big time thing, and apparently the success rate for 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.160 him is much greater. And um, they're meant to just be, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:25.920 like you were saying, completely under his skin. And they 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.319 come in all these different sizes and shapes, and um, 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.760 the sizes in particular are meant to just kind of 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.839 slowly stretch the skin like you do when you gauge 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.439 your ears. You can go bigger and bigger, right, Um, 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.160 So you just put one in and let your skin 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.240 kind of loosen up around it. And underneath the skin 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.800 there's that shape of what you say a skull, saying skulls, 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:48.120 hand grenades, throwing stars which may or may not have 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:52.520 just been regular stars with pointy edges. Um hearts, music notes, 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.240 cherries like whatever, and you can put them anywhere on 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.679 your body and it's just like that shape protruding from 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.600 underneath your skin. Or the most famous one of one 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.280 I saw, I think first, because I think the kid 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.120 who did it was an early adopter. That doughnut shape 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.679 on the forehead, which I'm not sure what that if. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.000 It's just aesthetic or if there's some sort of symbolism 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.200 behind it or not. But it is a It is 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.439 a definite look. It's not like Dr Manhattan, is it. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.120 I don't know who that is. Is that like a 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:27.199 seventies disco group? No, it's the Watchman character from The Watchman. 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.760 What did he novel? Slash movie? Slash? Now? He had 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.600 like a glowing thing underneath his skin right now? He 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.800 had it was on his forehead. He had a circle, 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:40.080 but it was glowing. Uh No, No, I didn't glow. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.160 I mean he could blow sometimes. Okay, maybe that's why 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.319 I'm confusing it with but there are now subdermal implants 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.439 that have led lights, so that not only is your 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.960 skin this shape protruding, it also lights up. Did you 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.679 see that thing about people having magnets put in their fingers. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.679 Let's talk about that for a second. All right, people 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.640 have magnets in their fingers sometimes. Yeah, Shannon Larrett was 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:06.920 is like kind of a huge extreme body mod artist um, 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.280 which is something we should say. The people who implant 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.160 this stuff are called artists. The people who have it 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.160 done to them are also called artists typically too. It's 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.719 kind of like art I do the art and I 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:22.000 and the art. But don't call me a doctor, especially 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.960 not Dr Manhtan, but um Shannon Larrett was an early 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.240 adopter of magnet fingertips, but it didn't work out all 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.920 that well because of the way that they were produced. Yeah, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.840 that is called sensory augmentation. And the idea here as 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.640 you put a tiny magnet in your fingertip, and you 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.600 would you can sense things like magnetic fields. I mean, 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.920 you become a magnet. You know, at least the tip 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.040 your finger. Does you like, check out this paper clip 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.240 now it's attached to my finger. What are you gonna do? 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.600 Nor me? Well, it said there were some funny things 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.440 in this. I got a couple of articles on this. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.040 One of them was what you need to know about 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:01.640 getting magnetic finger implants by George vorts Skey George Dvorski. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.040 Yeah you know him. Oh yeah, he's from He's a 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.240 huge I O nine writer. Okay. So one of the 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.360 things that said it could be useful if you work 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.040 in electronics. You can feel the live wires versus the 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.240 dead wires. And I'm just thinking, like they have devices 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.760 that do that, you know. And then they listed a 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.080 few other things and finally said, you can also do 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.360 things like pick up bobble caps and paper clips. It's 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:26.200 pretty neat, but it's an early UM example, or I 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:30.040 should say, primitive example of bio hacking, which is like 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.360 trying to do things. It's kind of like a part 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:36.240 of the trans humanism umbrella where it's like it's like 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.680 Stellarc with the ear. I knew that was coming. Okay, 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.520 of course, he's like our go to poster child for 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:47.480 trans humanism. So this is actually following through on bio 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.440 hacking with your own body. And there's an actually name 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.200 for that community, that very specific set of people who 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.960 are actually doing this stuff, and they're called grinders. Yeah, 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.920 and that's like a magnet or an r f I 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.360 D chips or something like where you can, like, if 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.800 you really know you're gonna be working at the same 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.920 office for a while, you might have that your RFI 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.920 D card implanted into the top of your hand and 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.760 you just swipe your hand and freak out your normy 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.120 co workers. Yeah. This one guy from Wired, and he 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.160 wasn't even listed as the author, maybe because he just 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:23.480 wanted to remain anonymous or she um and this person 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.840 got the magnet done as an experiment for the article 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.720 what and it said. Four months after, uh, the thing 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.400 basically eventually he tried to get it taken out by 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.040 his family doctor. He said. My family doctor tried to 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:40.240 remove it and failed. The implant shattered into pieces, and 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.440 it no longer worked as a magnet, he said. But 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.200 four months later I lost all the effect. The spot 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.840 darkened and the magnetism returned because the magnet, being a magnet, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:55.640 had reassembled itself in my finger. Wow, that's awesome. Isn't 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:59.240 that amazing? And it reassembled itself into a skull and crossbones. 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.360 I don't know, he said. It wasn't as sensitive, but 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.600 he could pick up bottle caps. That's pretty sure, which 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.560 is ultimately the point, you know. Yeah, it's all very interesting. Um. Yeah, 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.359 and I know we're laughing a lot and stuff, but 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:15.879 it is. It is unusual. So forgive us if you're 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:17.720 out there and you have a magnet in your finger 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.439 and you're offended by us. Yeah, go list into some 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.320 other episodes of stuff you should know and you'll you'll 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.560 catch our vibe. Yeah, you'll know we're not laughing at you. 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.600 All right, Should we take a break? All right, let's 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.040 do that let's get some magnets and planet in our 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:41.119 pinkies and uh, we'll be right back. Chock chock stop. 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.560 You know. One of the things I saw about having 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.800 magnets implanted in your in your fingers, and actually any 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:13.680 kind of implant that involves metal and an m R, 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.760 I is a terrible idea. I saw that, And sometimes 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.840 you might need an m R. It's medically necessary. It 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.320 will pull it out of your body. Oh my god. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.639 And they I saw two different things. I saw one 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.600 article where a guy said that you need to let 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:30.680 them know so they can account for this, and I 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.919 saw another one where they said, no, they won't let 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.000 you do this. Um. So I don't know if accounting 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.240 for it means like hanging your hand out the side 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:43.080 or which is not possible. I think maybe temporarily amputating 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.159 your hands and when you throw the m R and 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.280 then reattaching them and hoping for the best. That sounds 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.760 like something out of a movie though, ripping a magnet 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.560 out of your finger and really, oh my god. So 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.199 everything we've talked about basically up to this point has 0:18:55.240 --> 0:19:00.680 been subdermal implants, which are completely under the skin. They 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.600 either used for like bio hacking or just for a 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:07.320 dormant there's something else. Then this is what we're actually 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:13.200 talking about today. Those are Those are called transdermal implants, 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.080 and they bear a striking resemblance of subdermal except they 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.920 are even more extreme body modifications because they're implanted under 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.680 the skin, but they also protrude out of the skin, 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:28.800 which means they break the body envelope, which makes them 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:32.680 extremely risky as far as this whole thing is concerned. Yeah, 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.440 and I've heard it. It's also called single point. Um, 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:40.000 there's another name for it. I've seen those for microdermals really, yeah, 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.280 which we'll get to. Yeah, because yeah, it definitely wouldn't 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.640 be single point because there's the second point that they make. 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.720 I think, So, yeah, I think single point is. We'll 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.359 talk about it with microdermals, all right. So the idea 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:59.400 of the implant though, is, um, if you imagine permanent 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:03.000 jewelry maybe or if you look online, the first thing 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.679 that you will likely see is someone with a shaved 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:11.359 head and little horns or spikes or um any kind 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.520 of adornment coming out of the head. But this guy, 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:20.720 what was his first name, Mr al Ward? His first name, 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:25.520 Chuck was Joe Joe, right, he was one of it 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.320 seems like the first people, if not the who got 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:32.879 this done in X from Yeah, and Hayworth seems to 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:37.600 be still a very prominent body modification artist. He's called 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:42.560 the mod Father. Okay, well there you have those subdermal implants. Um. 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.400 He designs and sells him like crazy made out of silicon. Yeah, 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:50.240 because he worked in medical tool engineering, which we're not 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.800 saying that's you know, a qualification. Oh, it definitely wasn't this, 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.000 but it probably helped. Oh yeah, you know. No, No, 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.199 this guy basically he grew up in his father's company. 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:04.879 His father created cosmetic surgery tools, and Steve joined the 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:08.840 family company and he made cosmetic surgery tools. Um. It 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.639 was very successful at it, first with his father's company 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:14.040 and then later with his own company. Um. But he 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.680 also said, well, you know, this is kind of a 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:20.080 cool idea to using this stuff for body modification. So 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:24.200 not only did he invent, design and create these tools 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.879 that are used for this stuff, he also invented the 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.879 procedures and he also invented the implants. So he was 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.600 he created this truly is the mod Father. Yeah, and 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.840 you know it's not always a metal mohawk of spikes 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:41.480 or anything. We should talk a little bit about a 0:21:41.560 --> 0:21:45.240 gentleman named Dennis Avner who is no longer with us. 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:48.320 If you have ever poked around this community, then you 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:53.000 know who Dennis Abner was. He was known as Stalking Cat, yes, 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:57.639 stalking Cat, or just the tiger or Catman or Tigris 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.600 or Catman. Yeah. He was a veteran of U. S. Navy. 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.480 And this was from his obituary written by Shannon Lauret 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:10.320 from mod blog. From the mod blog. And he worked 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:15.240 as a programmer and a technician, and he had his 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.800 totem was was a tiger and a female tiger. He 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:23.159 was a Huron Native American of the Huron tribe. So 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:26.040 he was actually Okay, that's what I couldn't find out 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:29.679 definitely if he just followed along that tradition or if 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:33.000 he actually was he was an actual Huron. Okay. So 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.880 he also had um implants and things above his lip 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.640 to uh kind of puff it out like a cat. 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:44.680 He had metal whiskers. Yeah, he had um ah, his 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.760 his upper lips surgically subvered to make it more cat like. 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:51.800 What's that called? I can't remember. Something acted me though, Yeah, 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.560