1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, you're in 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: the right place. This is the Official Colts Podcast, giving 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: you an updated look and what's new with the Horseshoes. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Just gets off the Taylor he said, touchdown in d 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Why fires that way? Picked off? Terius flitting at the 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: five yard line, plants in the pocket, the Cults for 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: your down, A sack for Indian Appolis steps up in 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: the Antony throws go Pittman touchdown. Let's get the podcast started. 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: What's up everyone, I'm JJ Stankovitz. Welcome into another episode 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: of the Official Cults Podcast, presented by wind Bat. Lara 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: Overton's here. Casey Valier is here in for Matt Taylor. 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: This week, we got some mini camp to wrap up. 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: We got a couple of storylines to hit. We got 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: Morocco Brown, the recently promoted Colts Chief Personnel Executive, joining 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: us later on in the podcast. A really interesting conversation 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: about team building scouting with the next pick. That's what 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna say is that's not his only title. 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: His other title is like Star of the with the 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: next house simes up with all of the nicknames and 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: discussions and analogy is Yeah, he's it. He threw us 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: one at the end of his interview too, about Alec 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: Pierre that you're gonna want to hear really good. It's 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: really good. It ended on a high note. We're gonna 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: take your mail bad question of the week. We're gonna 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: still have Mate's random thought of the week. Even though 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: Mate is out vacationing somewhere, probably with a little smoky 27 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: webber grill some hot dogs. I know where he is. No, 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: he's in Key West, Mate, I don't picture Mate is 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: a key We's his anniversary, so she and missus Taylor 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: are sunning themselves. It's free South Florida. Good for them. Yeah, 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: that's great, Okay, all right, I can see that. Then 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: I always pictured Mate is. You know, like I'm gonna 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: go grill, just take some time off, kick the feet up, right. 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about this last week. I mean 35 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: his bachelor party was carved day. So if that just 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: tells you, you know, I mean that that's Matt Taylor 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: in a nutshell. So I would agree with you j J. Well, 38 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: but but you know, we'd elevated a notch because we 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: have his wife Sam all right, you know yea, so 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 1: she's pushing him out on the comfort and sound. They're 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: going somewhere in you know, they're like Jimmy Buffett's or something. 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, Mattee with the you know, the beach shirt. 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a couple of buttons undone. We'll make sure 44 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: he takes some photos. I could share him next week 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: and we'll be honest. He's been sending me email, so 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: I know he's still working. Because Matt is to know 47 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: how to take a day wodcast, Turn it off, Turn 48 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: it off if you are listening to this podcast, trendy 49 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: name is not Matt Taylor. Let's please stay with us. 50 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: We want to wrap up a little bit of the 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: Colts off season program, which came to a sort of 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: conclusion last week with mandatory veteran mini camp. Rookies are 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: still here. The building is still open. Coaches are here 54 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: working with rookies for the next couple of days before 55 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: and God love those rookies because this is about one 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: hundred degrees out there, Like, yeah, we hear all the 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: vets leave and then you got these guys here are 58 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: here still grinding it out, practicing until noon. Lara, you 59 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: and you and I had a chance to uh take 60 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: a couple of players over, a couple of the rookies 61 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: over to a bags tournament. Cornhole bags that's what it's called. 62 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: And um, I mean, man like Jilani Woods, he comes 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: out of practice just like drench. Yeah, it's like, man, 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: all right, well here, let's go play some bags. They 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: were good sports about it, though. That's gonna be a 66 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: good video when that's up on our social channels and 67 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Colts dot Com. I mean he's from Atlanta though, like 68 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: he do it. Yeah. Um. But for the most part, though, 69 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: we got our last look at the twenty twenty two 70 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts before training camp. So after seeing the Colts 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: do the last thing, like the closest thing to real 72 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: football before they reconvene at Grand Park in late July, Like, 73 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: did did your excitement level grow for this season? Because 74 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: mine did? Like watching Matt Ryan seems to find Gilmour 75 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: out there seeing unique and Goquay, It's like, man, these 76 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: they got some dudes here now. I came away from 77 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: this offseason program feeling really really bullish about this team's 78 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: chances this year. It made me excited because it's just 79 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: something we really haven't gotten to see right in recent 80 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: years because of different restrictions and the modified offseason program 81 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: and different things like that. So I do I think 82 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: that part of it is because of the guys that 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: you have who you have brought together in this building, 84 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: that you have together in twenty twenty two moving forward 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: to the regular season. But it's also because, oh man, 86 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: I forgot how much I just enjoy watching this Like 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: it's practice. I mean, you know, they're not even in pads, 88 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: it's you know, so it's you. Yeah, do you get 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of a look at things, sure, But 90 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: for the most part, it's just the fact that you 91 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: have something that we have had removed from us that 92 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: we haven't been able to experience. And you could just 93 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: tell how the it was for the guys to get 94 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: those reps, to have time together to do all of 95 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: those types of things. And also it seemed like that 96 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: there was an eagerness for a number of guys to 97 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: stick around a little bit longer too, Like it's not 98 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: just the rookies. There are other guys who are around 99 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: here who have put in war orc who you still 100 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: see you over in the weight room or you know, 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: coming through your treatment, different things like that. So I 102 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: think that the energy is reciprocated by the fact that 103 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: guys were eager to be here, guys were really invested 104 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: JJ you and I talked for a while with Unique 105 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: and Gackway last week, and he brings a palpable investment 106 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: into this team, as do guys like Stefan Gilmour and 107 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. So you're getting you always have an excitement 108 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: from the rookies, right, but you do get a sense 109 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: of these savvy vets who have been brought in either 110 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: via trade or free agency, that they almost feel revitalized 111 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: and refreshed, and there is a re energized approach that 112 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: those guys have. I mean, Matt Ryan, you know, the 113 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: bullhorn was going off, you know, for change of periods 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: within practice when you're going from you know, special team 115 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: stuff over to you know, seven on seven, eleven on 116 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: eleven whatever it happened to be positional work, and he's 117 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: hollerant at the video guys and the football video guys, 118 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: like I mean, playfully, and it was just there are 119 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: just moments like that where it's like these guys are 120 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: having fun and they're really enjoying well can be kind 121 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: of a I mean, it's not as grueling as training camp. 122 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: But it's mandatory. You're kind of slogging through stuff whatever 123 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: it is. You're not one hundred percent up tempo type 124 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: of things. But they were excited to be out there, 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: excited to be all together. That's part of what I 126 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: was going to say is I almost had to look 127 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: at the clock and look at my calendar because I 128 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: almost felt like it was camp. Like I got that 129 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: sense that, you know, the the urgency was there. I 130 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: completely agree with what you were saying, Lara that I 131 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: almost had to, you know, kind of take a step 132 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: back and Okay, it's not August yet, Like even though 133 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm at Graham Park watching practice, it's 134 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: great that it's June, and that was a great thing 135 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: to be able to see it in person. But I 136 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: definitely got that sense of urgency. And you know, and 137 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: talk all we want about you know, how much Matt 138 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: Ryan won the press conference. He won all of us 139 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: over when we met him. You watch him on the field, 140 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: and it's pretty easy to see how he can win 141 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: you over on the field too. I mean, he just 142 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: had the command of the offense and I am very excited. 143 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm just like you, JJ, you know, we're bullish on 144 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: this roster, you look at it on paper and you 145 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: really look at it as a team that can do 146 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: a lot of damage. And seeing him, you know, for 147 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: the just the short stint that we got last week, 148 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: it definitely got me fired up. And I'm ready for 149 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Well I mean maybe more than 150 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, but when Camp rolls around here shortly. 151 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: So the just real quick on Matt Ryan. We had 152 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: a chance to talk with him last week at the 153 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: conclusion of veteran Mini Camp. I thought this was really interesting. 154 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: He said he's gonna go work out in small groups 155 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: with Colts pass catchers, and he kind of made the 156 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: comment of like, if you get fourteen guys together, well 157 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: I only have one of one army yea, so two 158 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: of them. Okay, it's a good point. He does have 159 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: two arts. He can only throw with him. It's not 160 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: an ambidextrous picture, you know, like they're like two of 161 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: them in baseball history. It's not one of those guys 162 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: that would be a really interesting thing though. Can you 163 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: imagine a quarterback who could throw with both hands? That 164 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: would be awesome, Like you could you could run. It's 165 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: been attempted, it has I mean we've we've I mean, 166 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: I think Patrick Mahomes has really made it. You know, 167 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: he's done a handful of left handed throws. We saw 168 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: it here last year at a couple of times. I mean, 169 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: if you could, if you could have a quarterback who 170 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: could throw with the same arm strength and accuracy with 171 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: both arms. Right, this is not affect your offensive line, 172 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: then that's a great That's what I was just about 173 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: to say. Then that right tackle is it? You know, 174 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: you want to have two, arguably two left tackles. You 175 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: would you would never know if you're an opposing cornerback man, 176 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: you know, which is the backside of the play, because 177 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: every place everything could be on the front side, or 178 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: everything could be. I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to Frank 179 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: Wick after this podcast about this. I'm gonna start getting 180 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: my kid I'm gonna start making my kids start throwing 181 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: with both I mean, I mean, I want being a 182 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: baseball guy at heart. Like anytime my kids pick up 183 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: a bat or a ball with the left hand, I'm 184 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: like all the time, like licking my chops. I'm like, 185 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: here we go. You know, because I always say that 186 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: if I was left handed, I'd be in the big leagues, 187 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: which is probably not even near close to the truth. 188 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: But I always wanted to be left handed. I'm gonna 189 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: start saying, hey, let's throw twenty with the right and 190 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: twenty with the left. Let's get it going. This has 191 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: been like the dumbest non second out of this podcast. 192 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: We like brought in the Mayta's random Thought of the 193 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: Week early. You know, it just popped into my head 194 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: and I it just it went straight from my brain 195 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: to my mouth with no filter of like, this is 196 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: a dumb thing to go down. But hey, you know, 197 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: here we are. It's all part of it, right. So 198 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan said he wants to throw in small groups. 199 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: Albert Breer from Sports Illustrated talk to Matt Ryan and Matt. 200 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: Matt said he's gonna work out with two guys at 201 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: a time. So I really like that where you can 202 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: really get some some quality work in just throw into, say, 203 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, Paris Campbell and Desmond Patman one day and 204 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: then you go somewhere else. I think he's going to California, Georgia, Texas, 205 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: and Indie if I have those locations right, So he's 206 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: going all over the country and just those those one 207 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: on one connections that you can make in those small 208 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: groups I think are really really important now to kind 209 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: of continue to build that foundation ahead of training camp 210 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: or for how those connections are going to look. What 211 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: I find really interesting too is it's just pass catchers. Like, yeah, ooh, 212 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: so that's obviously your tight ends in addition to your 213 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: wide receivers and probably some running backs in there too. 214 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: Like I like the the usage of just all encompassing 215 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: pass catchers. I like the opportunities in the variety that 216 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: you think a guy like Danny Pinter who goes, hey, man, 217 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: I caught pass. I call it a touchdown. Last year, 218 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: am I included one of my favorite things from the 219 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: offseason program was this, like, you know, it's been kind 220 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: of bubbling for a while, Like, all right, the cults 221 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: are gonna use Nahem Hinds more. They're gonna get him 222 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: some work as a wide receiver in the slot, and 223 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: then you know, like the smart Colts fans, the folks 224 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: who listen to this podcast are probably like, I'm gonna 225 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: try to steak Nahim Hines onto my fantasy team. Well, 226 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: Frank goes and blows up everyone's spot by being like, well, 227 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: if I had a fantasy team, I'd probably consider drafting 228 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: nikem Hines and everyone's probably like, damn it, there goes 229 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: that Rise, not Mines is going to be a top ten, 230 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, draft pick this year. Because you got the 231 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: coach of the team being like, yeah, you should probably 232 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: draft that guy. It's great. It's great for anyone who 233 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: was looking to you know, I'm gonna be smarter than 234 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: everyone in my league. It was awesome. That was that's 235 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: my favorite quote of the off season program. Yeah. Um, 236 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: speaking of quotes, I just want to play a little 237 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: bit of sound here from Frank Reich of just what 238 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: the Colts got out of OTA's and mini camp this offseason. 239 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: It's unreal. I mean, I forgot how much I love this, 240 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: how much you need this. Um, we got so much done. 241 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: It's it's amazing that. Um, you know, you can play 242 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: a season without doing this. So many details are covered. Um, 243 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: you have a chance that you know, when we're talking 244 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: about those apps and developing a program, workout bugs and kinks. Um, 245 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: you know before you get into camp, so especially you know, 246 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: new defensive system, new quarterback, have a chance to get 247 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: through different iterations of things. Were very helpful. So I thought, 248 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, the comment that Frank made about like, you know, 249 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: I can't believe we used to do this, Like we 250 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: had seasons without this, I thought was really really telling 251 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: of just the impact that Colts coaches felt they were 252 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: able to make over the last couple of weeks and months, 253 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, installing a new defense, getting a new quarterback. 254 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: In the fact that the Colts in twenty twenty made 255 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs with Philip Rivers where they didn't have any 256 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: of this, it's really incredible, right that you know, you're 257 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: able to put in that work and still get there. 258 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: This just tells me that the Colts are are so 259 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: much farther ahead of where they've been in years past 260 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to what they're now going to be 261 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: able to accomplish in trading camp. Well, and when we 262 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: talked to Quentin Nelson and I asked him about the 263 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: value in those three days, he was really quick to 264 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: point out, well, it's not just these three days. We've 265 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: been here for weeks. I mean, that was one of 266 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: the first things that he went to and I mean 267 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: he went on to describe how much work they've gotten done. 268 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: But I think two that's that's the point of it. 269 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: As well, is the emphasis, especially offensively, that a lot 270 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: of those guys have placed on getting in here and 271 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: maximizing the time they have. You know, with a kind 272 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: of a revamped offensive line, you have guys stepping into 273 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: different positions, and then of course you have a new quarterback. 274 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: In all of that, you're looking at incorporating guys in 275 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: different ways. So yeah, yeah, but that was one of 276 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: the things that Quentin really pointed out was Hey, it's 277 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: not just these three days, not just mini camp. Everyone 278 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: was putting the Ephasis on mini camp, but it's really 279 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: like the last month, and that's that's the biggest thing. 280 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we did just get to see him for 281 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: those three days, but that's one of the things. I'm 282 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: glad that he kind of reiterated the fact that, hey, 283 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: we've been here. And I think part of it too, 284 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: was kind of to make you make it a point 285 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: to show that the last couple of years, maybe we 286 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: didn't take full advantage of what we could. I think 287 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of guys that would agree 288 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: that last year they could have taken more. I know 289 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: what the word is, that they really could have been 290 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: here more instead of taking I mean, what was they 291 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: were out by Memorial Day last year. And I mean, 292 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, slow starts have kind of been an mo 293 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: for this team, and I think that's part of one 294 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: of these things they're trying to figure out how to 295 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: get out of that. Don't know, Frank Reich has addressed it. 296 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: I think this is all part of it. We're they're 297 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: taking full advantage of all the time that they can 298 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: possibly get here in the building because it is very, 299 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: very valuable. And as we you know, as we see, 300 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: we're gon we're gonna continue to see guys working together 301 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: during this offseason. So essentially when training camp comes, everybody's 302 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: been working for a handful of months. Yeah, and it 303 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: hasn't been splintered or fragmented because of COVID restrictions or 304 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: guys not being in the building. It's been really good. 305 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: One thing we do need to talk about, Darius Leonard 306 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: last week had back surgery to repair an injury that 307 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: kind of nagged him throughout the offseason. It cropped up, 308 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: it sounds like a couple of weeks ago and it 309 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: didn't get any better. So the Colts decided, hill let's 310 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: get out ahead of this, Let's get the procedure done. 311 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: There is some thought that this could also help alleviate 312 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: some of his ankle issues that have nagged him for 313 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: the last year. We'll kind of see how things go 314 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: with that, but you know, everything's connected, right, so hopefully 315 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: this will, you know, kind of help Darius get back 316 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: to being closer to one hundred percent than he's been 317 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: in the last few years. Darius, by the way, last year, 318 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about it. This dude played on 319 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: basically one ankle and had eight forced fumbles. Unreal. It 320 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: was an All Pro for the third time in his career. 321 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's remarkable. So I guess the question now 322 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: becomes when will Darius be ready to practice again, to 323 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: play again. Frank Creich said, you know, could be sometime 324 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: during training camp that he misses, but then you know 325 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: the cults are expecting he'll be ready for the start 326 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: of the season. Any concern about Darius potentially missing training 327 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: camp for me, no, You look at he missed time 328 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: last year when he had the ankle surgery back in 329 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: June one year ago, and he missed significant time and 330 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: still played well to start the season. He was ready 331 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: when he needed to be. That's what we've come to 332 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: expect of Darius Leonard is to me, it's it's yes. 333 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: Ideally with having a new defensive coordinator, a new defensive 334 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: staff and scheme which I like to have everyone sure 335 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: is that realistic to expect everyone to go a full 336 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: span of training camp? Probably not, especially because vet guys 337 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: always get vet days in camp, they get rest days, 338 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: all of that. What you need to be sure of 339 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: is that Darius's first and foremost one percent healthy to 340 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: come back and play when he's ready too, that he 341 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: has a mastery of the playbook and the scheme, and 342 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: you know that he's going to do that. He's a 343 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: guy who spends an immense amount of time in you know, 344 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: his time away from the facility when he's been rehabbing 345 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: or when he's been studying film, doing all those things. 346 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: He's going to do all of that. And also this 347 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: is great experience for guys like EJ. Speed to step 348 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: up and get those reps when they might need to 349 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: get them in the season and go back to you know, 350 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: the game in Arizona when EJ had to start for 351 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard and the way that he played showed you 352 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: a lot. So yeah, and real quick, Lara, the way 353 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: that he played in that game was the way that 354 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: he played when Darius missed those days in training camp 355 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: rist here. I mean, that's that's the value of getting 356 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: EJ some of these reps. Darius is also one of 357 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: the smartest players, like football players I've ever been around. 358 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: So the mental side of it, you do not worry 359 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: about that at all. Yeah. Yeah, and that's one of 360 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: the things that I kind of look at his Yeah, 361 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: you'd love to see him out there, but you know 362 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: the kind of player you have in Darius Leonard, So 363 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you're at all, you know, that worried 364 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: if he's missing on the reps in camp, because I 365 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: think everybody would agree. Here. You saw what percentage do 366 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: you think he played at last year? Sixty five? Yeah, 367 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: that's probably sixty five, probably about two thirds, and he 368 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: was an All Pro. Yeah, so it just imagine just 369 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: put Darius Leonard in. Let's see it's eighty five percent, 370 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: because you know, once the first kickoff happens, nobody's one 371 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: hundred percent. I mean, you hear every person talk about you, 372 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: you play through. So let's say you have an eighty 373 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: five percent healthy Darius Leonard. Just imagine the impact that 374 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: that's going to have this year, And I think that's 375 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is you want to make sure Darius 376 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: Leonard when he's on the field, he's as impactful as 377 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: he can and as healthy as he can. And I 378 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: think also when you look at this defense, this is 379 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: probably the best defense that Darius has been a part of, 380 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: So imagine what he can add when you have all 381 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: these So he's not asked to do as much as 382 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: he maybe has through the first part of his career 383 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: as well. And I'm gonna go back to something we 384 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: talked about just a couple of weeks ago, is how 385 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: candid he was about the mental toll and the mental 386 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: struggle that he endured at the end of the year 387 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: in the early part of the off season. So this 388 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: is a time for him too to not only heal physically, 389 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: but also to cope with all of that and make 390 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: sure that internally and mentally that he is in a 391 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: good place. And he I mean, it's the guy who 392 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: excid he was falling out of love of the game, 393 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: right He's the maniac. He's the guy who you know, 394 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: bursts out of the doors to go to the practice 395 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: field because he's so excited to get out there and 396 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's hyping people up on the side lines 397 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: and he's throwing his hands up every chap. I mean, 398 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: this is a guy who I've never seen exude such 399 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: passion for the game. If a guy like that says 400 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: he was falling out of love with football, that that 401 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: is a serious red flag and something that you want 402 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: to be sure you give him the time and the 403 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: support and all of the resources he needs so that 404 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: he comes in here not just feeling one hundred percent 405 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: on that ankle, his back all of those things, but 406 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: also that you know that that love and that genuine, 407 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: almost childlike enthusiasm that he has not just for the game, 408 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: but for his teammates and and for life. I mean 409 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: he is he's joyful, and he's you know, exuberant always. 410 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: So you just, I mean, as as a person, you 411 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: care about who he is, and you want to be 412 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: sure that this time has also spent doing all of 413 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: those things and caring for himself in that way as well. 414 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: That's really well said Lara M. That's going to kind 415 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: of wrap up our discussion here of mini camp and 416 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: the offseason program. Let's get to Morocco Brown. Really good 417 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: stuff here. I hope you guys enjoyed us. Joining us 418 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: here on the podcast is Colts Chief Personnel Executive Morocco Brown. 419 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: That is a new title. Morocco was promoted last week 420 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: from Director of College Scouting, a position he held in 421 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: the Colts Front office since twenty seventeen. Morocco, how does 422 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: the move change your responsibilities and your assignments within the 423 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: Colts front office. Yeah, well, the role it'll be more 424 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: diverse and that I'll have more pro work to do, 425 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: and obviously I'll be operating a lot more in house 426 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: out of the office, so with that comes more administrative 427 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: responsibility as well. I'm still gonna have the meat and 428 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: potatoes of what I was doing as a college director 429 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: as far as when the fall hits, still getting out 430 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: heavy on the road. I'll still out between my thirty 431 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: and forty colleges to scout. But I just think it's splitting, 432 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: splitting my responsibilities a little bit more and being heavier 433 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: like in the pro work that affects our team during 434 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: the course of the year when the games being played. 435 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: So I think it's a good balance. It's a challenge 436 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: that I'm up for and I think I'll do a 437 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: good job and I kind of, you know, in our 438 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: our culture and our scouting in front in the front office, 439 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: you kind of got to you gotta earn it. So 440 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: once you put the work in, you get a chance 441 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: to bump up and just continue to prove yourself. And 442 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: I think I'm ready to do that, no doubt that 443 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: you are. And you mentioned the culture that there is. 444 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: And I talk a lot to all of you guys, 445 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: especially over the course of the winter and the spring 446 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: as we're producing with the next pick and we're you know, 447 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: going in depth on what you guys are doing and 448 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: what you're looking at, and in talking with a few 449 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: of the scouts who've been in the building over the 450 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: last week because of that mini camp and all of 451 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: that that's going on, and then a few the rookies 452 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: who are in the building this week. There are a 453 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: number of people. This promotion for you is one of 454 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: several among this scouting staff. What indication is it of 455 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: the talent that's there, the respect that there is among 456 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: this group where there hasn't been an immense amount of turnover, 457 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: and rather than bringing a lot of new people into 458 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 1: these positions, people have just continued to earn opportunities and 459 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: be elevated within this staff. Yeah, good point. I think 460 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: that really it speaks to Chris Ballace trust and our 461 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: scouting stands number one, and then it lets you know 462 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: the quality of work that's getting done to help build 463 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: the team from August to April. So I feel like 464 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: you've become stronger when you can promote from within. I 465 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: mean you want to resign your own people where you 466 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: go outside the building and try to hire somebody else's 467 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: that's on the field. And I think it's also it's 468 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: true in the front office. But I think with our 469 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: staff entering like the six year, it just brings a 470 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: lot of certainty. It brings a lot of stability for 471 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: our processes. We've been doing this together for a while, 472 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: and like I said, it just speaks to the people 473 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: that we have. I mean, you win with the people 474 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: that are in your building. We have a strong, strong 475 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: scouting staff and Chris trusts and so it's been paying 476 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: dividends and I think it will continue to do so. Morocco. 477 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: Along those lines, when you've had so much continuity, how 478 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: do you and the rest of the scouting staff, how 479 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: do you keep ideas fresh and how do you continue 480 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: to look at things in different ways where it doesn't 481 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: become you know, like a inertia doesn't set in and 482 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: you kind of keep doing things the exact same way 483 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: you've been doing them. How do you how is that 484 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: process foster new ideas even with the same people there. Yeah, well, 485 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: I think one of the things, one of the foundations 486 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: of how we do Scout is based on the theory 487 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: of diversity of thought, and so Chris is always pushing 488 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: for Hey, look, if you guys have new ways of thinking, 489 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: new ways of doing things, bring them up. No idea 490 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: of a dumb idea. The earth is kind of flat 491 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: as far as how we go about doing our job. 492 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: So yes, there's a certain consistency we want to have. 493 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: We know what does work, But then we do want 494 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 1: to stress to the room with other people's with people's 495 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: ideas and thinking outside of the box. So we're always 496 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: going to press to whatever that method is to trying 497 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: to figure out the right way of doing it or 498 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: whatever makes us, you know, get one percent better. As 499 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: Coach Frank always talks about, We're gonna do that. And 500 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: it just comes from, like I said, diversity of thought 501 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: and not oppressing the thoughts of the room. Now Morocco. 502 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: One of those things that kind of everybody's striving for 503 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: is to be that GM like Chris. And you've known 504 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: Chris for a long time, dating back to your days 505 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: with Chicago and now here with Indianapolis, and you kind 506 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: of look at what he's done. What are certain things 507 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: that you can take from Chris as you continue in 508 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: your movement? You know, what are the things that you 509 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 1: have taken from him to get the spot you are 510 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: now and what you're gonna take as you move forward. Yeah, 511 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: the biggest thing has just been that I glean from 512 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: Chris's authenticity, and I think that dates back from the 513 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: time I first met him. That's just kind of who 514 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: he is as a person. But he just really taught 515 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: me to be yourself and the real that nobody can 516 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: be you better than you can, which is a trait 517 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: that I think makes you unique in itself when you 518 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: just can be yourself, not trying to be somebody else. 519 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: So being an authentic, original person is what Chris has 520 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: probably modeled most to me. Morocco. You've had a number 521 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: of interviews four GM jobs in the past, and you've 522 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: had experience both on the pro personnel side and on 523 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: count college scouting sides obviously, which not kind of blend 524 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: together into your current position. But what makes you confident 525 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: in your talent evaluation, your leadership skills that you're ready 526 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: for that role when the right fit emerges. Yeah, well, 527 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm I think I'm confident just you know, once you 528 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: have been in this league a certain amount of time, 529 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: you're not here by accident. And I just look at 530 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: having worked in four different buildings over the past twenty 531 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: one years, it's kind of given me perspective on what 532 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: works and what doesn't. I've had multiple job titles. I 533 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: think that has deep in my experience bucket to be 534 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: at the pool from I've learned a lot just being 535 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: in those different buildings, in those different settings. But you know, 536 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: I think in the end, it really just comes comes 537 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: down to I've been in on the interview circuit the 538 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: past two years, pretty heavy, and I'm realizing that at 539 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: the end it kind of just comes down to fit. 540 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: You know, everybody's qualified. I don't think you'd be getting 541 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: the interviews if you if you couldn't do the job. 542 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: But it really comes down to fit. As far as 543 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: like the organizational philosophy, their philosophy on leadership as well 544 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: as yours on team building and those things just matching 545 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: up for you to become the next gem. So once 546 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: once you can see out eye on those things and 547 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: you show you have a plan for winning, show you 548 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: have a vision in the direction for the team, I 549 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: think then the right opportunity will emerge. But yeah, I'm 550 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: just continuing to work and try to get better, and hey, 551 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: when it's meant to Beatle's for me, is for me, 552 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: and it'll have in the right time. We're so fortunate 553 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: to have the opportunity to go in depth kind of 554 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: pull back the curtain on the whole process with the 555 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: past few years of doing with the Next Pick, and 556 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: so much of what we get to realize is of 557 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: course the process that there is and what leads that 558 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: room to make the decisions traffic guys you do. But 559 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: also it's such fun insight. And I'm saying that, you know, 560 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: that's selfish for me because I get to get to 561 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: see so much of it and get to show so 562 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: much of it and producing that series. The personalities that 563 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: are within that room that you work with every single day, 564 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: that room, that war room with the scouts and Chris 565 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: and ed it almost mirrors like a locker room dynamic 566 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: in the sense that everyone kind of has their roles 567 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: and their voices and contributes in a different way. You 568 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: mentioned the different organizations that you've worked within. What is 569 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: special about this group of guys that you work with 570 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: that excites you to have more time to continue building 571 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: something special within this building. Yeah, I think it's it's 572 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: the diversity of skill sets where I think we have 573 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: a lot of different people that are good at a 574 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: lot of different things, and then Chris does a very 575 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: good job at excellent job actually of you know, kind 576 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: of mixing and matching who does work well where to 577 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: put this person and accentuate their gifts. So this is 578 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: I think this is the best staff I've ever been 579 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: a part of, just talent wise, like being able to 580 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: assess the talent, say who fits into what we're doing, 581 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: and then we've streamlined the process to where I think 582 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: we can get everybody's superpower out of them when it 583 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: comes to trying to to evaluate and go through the 584 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: draft of free agency. So it's just unique in that, 585 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: not just at the scout level, but also at the 586 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: upper level executive tier. I think we got a lot 587 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: of good people. So when we go through our process, 588 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: which is strenuous, and get to the end of it, 589 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: I think we have a better chance of getting on 590 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: guys and we do of missing and you're gonna miss. 591 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: But the minds that are in there, and the diversity 592 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: of years in the league, and you know, you have 593 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: just just guys that playoff of each other well, and 594 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: that's what makes you want to continue to go in 595 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: there and grind and work, and it keeps it exciting 596 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: in the free agency, in the draft rooms when we 597 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: when we start those processes. Now Lara has brought up 598 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: with the next pick and it's you know something you 599 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: know for me and the fans. You know, not many 600 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: people have seen that, you know, fly on the wife 601 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: wall footage of those pre draft meetings. For your perspective, 602 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: kind of letting the outside into kind of your you know, 603 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: your office space, if you will. How gratifying is that 604 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: for you to kind of see the outpour that people are, 605 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, diving into what you know, this is what 606 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: you do every day. Oh, it's awesome. It's awesome to 607 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: see the response. And I mean we're in a point 608 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: now in the NFL where you have to let people in. 609 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, We understand that the players are the life 610 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: blood of the team, but I like to look at 611 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: it like the fans or the pulse. So your post 612 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: tells you how strong your heart is. And I think 613 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: when you have such a following with your fans, it 614 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: just lets you know what you have behind you pushing 615 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: you and the support that you have as an Indianapolis coach. 616 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's there's there's no secrets amongst us as 617 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: far as anything we're trying to keep from the general 618 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: public or something we don't feel like they could see. 619 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: So it's good to open it up and to just 620 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: not just educate, but to let people understand and see like, hey, 621 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: this is this is your life, this is your lifestyle, 622 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: and this one goes into making a pick or building 623 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: a team. I just I just think that's at the 624 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: forefront of sports is the fan and when we can 625 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: connect and do like we're doing with the next pick, 626 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: it's something special that can generate behind the club. Among 627 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: the overwhelming responses that there are to the series is 628 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: how much people love your descriptions. Guys in the room 629 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: with you call you the word smith, and they say 630 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: you should read Morocco's reports and just how he writes 631 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: and how he's able to articulate things and some of 632 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: the analogies that you make, and fans love it. They 633 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: always ask for more and more of your kind of 634 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: one liners. Are you aware of the immense response? Do 635 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: you have people who have reached out about just how 636 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: much they look forward to each and every season to 637 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: hearing what you have to say, or the banter that 638 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: there is in particular in that room that centers around 639 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: how you're able to describe certain traits, certain characteristics. I'm 640 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: not going to say I have a heightened sense of 641 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: awareness of it. I think my colleagues kind of let 642 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: me know basis we're joking around and they'll say, hey, man, 643 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: I remember you three years ago you describe this guy 644 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: this will said he was like that. So I think 645 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: it lets me know that my words do stick. That 646 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: comes from really just being trained right Like as a 647 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: young scout, I had a couple of people that invested 648 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: time into me and kind of showed me, hey, this 649 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: is how you speak on a player. When you talk, 650 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: you want people to be able to see what you're saying, 651 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: even if you're talking to somebody who's visually impaired, like 652 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: you need to paint a picture with your words. And 653 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: I think on top of that, just growing up, I 654 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: kind of have an artistic side to me, you know, 655 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: being a little bit of a poet. Remember my mom 656 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: used to give me up a source and just say, look, 657 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: read this twenty thirty minutes and just go through this. 658 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: It gives you kind of a wider vocabulary expand so 659 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean things like that. And it's just being in 660 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: different buildings, like I said before, and you draw from 661 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: what other people around you say and how they see it, 662 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: and you're just always trying to learn. I think it's 663 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: just a byproduct of learning and just trying to get better. 664 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: But I can't explain it. It's just once I talk 665 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: and it just comes out. It's not like I'm trying 666 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: to say anything or I'm putting on that way. It's just, 667 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if that's just maybe a 668 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: gift that I have on being able to speak and 669 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: say things a certain way where people understand it and 670 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: in the sticks with them. Marocco, you talked about being 671 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: in all those different buildings, you know, working with Jerry 672 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Angelo and Chicago and you know, Mike Shanahan and Washington 673 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: and some of those different you know, the big name 674 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 1: guys around the NFL, guys who have had a lot 675 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: of success. And I'm curious, says you've learned over the 676 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: last two decades, what are some trends you've noticed in 677 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: team building and how rosters are constructed, whether it's through 678 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: free agency, trades, the draft, that really kind of resonate 679 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: with you, you know, just as you kind of look 680 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: at how rosters again are constructed. Yeah, I think the 681 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, against the backdrop of time, has always been 682 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: you built through the draft and then you patch holes 683 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: through free agency, and I think an architect of the 684 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: team is kind of the draft, and then the free 685 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: agency has seen as a maintenance man. But I think 686 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: one of the trends and one of the things we're 687 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: seeing now this past year is kind of market the 688 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: thought process. The thought process that if you can acquire 689 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: proven talent right that's still young, under twenty five years old, 690 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: through a trade, then teams now are willing to seems 691 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: like they're more willing to part with first round draft 692 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: capital to acquire those type of players. So it's just 693 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: something that I don't think it's been like a major 694 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: roster building method in the past. But there's a number 695 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: of trades it's all season to indicate that it's like 696 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: that's a trend that the league's headed in that direction. 697 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: You know, how long is it gonna last? Is here 698 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: to stay? But it just shows and indicates that clubs 699 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: want to win now and that they think that a 700 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: players are proven commodity, a proven product where they're going 701 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: to get a potential impact player or somebody they can 702 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: win with. They're willing to part with those first round 703 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: picks that have seen, you know, as goal history. So 704 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of shifting. The switching is showing 705 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: the league's less patience, less patient, and you have less 706 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: time to build now, so people are kind of just 707 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: going straight for the kiel. Well you're kind of thinking 708 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: about that Morocco. You know. Twenty twenty, you know, the 709 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: Colts go out and trade for DeForrest Buckner and sign 710 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: him to an extension. You know, Chris Ballard just pushed 711 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: back a couple of times of saying, hey, you know what, 712 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: when people say we weren't active in free agency, it's like, no, 713 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: we went and we traded a first round pick and 714 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: signed buck to an extension, and look at how good 715 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: buck has been. It seems like it's harder to get 716 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: those caliber of players in free agency. But now, like 717 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: you said, with trades kind of opening up and teams 718 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: being willing to part with that first round draft capital, 719 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: you can go find impact players through the trade market. 720 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: Is it not? I don't want to say easier, but 721 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: how different is it trying to identify that player via 722 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: the via of the trade versus via finding that guy 723 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: in free agency? Yeah? Well you just said it. I 724 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: mean it is easier because you don't have the projection 725 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: based dilemma you have with the college guys, like you 726 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: don't know what they're going to be when they come in. 727 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: You're guessing and you're making assumptions and taking all the 728 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: information you've had to say that he's going to be 729 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: this type of player. But if a DeForest Buckner sitting there, 730 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: we already have a library, a car catalog or what 731 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: he's done in the league, So there is no guesswork. 732 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: For me, it's always been if you have that type 733 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: of a player that's available, you're wondering what's wrong with them, 734 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: like why is he available? What are we missing? As 735 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: an injury, as a character, and in that instance, you 736 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: know where Chris was able to trade the Forrest. I 737 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: think it's the thirteenth pick. It was a no brainer 738 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: because of the research we did to find out what 739 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: kind of a person he was, what kind of a 740 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: leader he was in the locker room, like he was 741 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: like the leader of the defense in San Francisco, And 742 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: you heard some of that buzz and people talking about 743 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: that when they made the trade. So I think those 744 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: are the things you look into the say, if these 745 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: guys are available, yes, we do want those players because 746 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: it's instant production, but you just have to do your 747 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: research to figure out why is he available? And then really, 748 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: we don't want to pay We don't want to pay 749 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: a player for what he used to do. We want 750 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: to pay someone for what they're going to do. And 751 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: he's actually been better with us that he's been at 752 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: San Francisco, So that trade was like us the home 753 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: run slammed up. We're joined by Colts Chief personnel executive 754 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 1: Morocco Brown. I'm want to go back to the draft 755 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. When you you help draft a player, 756 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: what do you generally look from from them when they 757 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: start practicing, doing all the meetings, the off season program 758 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: and then and then looking into this year, how do 759 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: you think that process went for the eight players you 760 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: guys selected. Yeah, well, it's early yeah, and so I 761 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: mean early on. I think what we're looking for in 762 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: the players, we're looking for guys who love to compete 763 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: and to attack the process. So whether it's in actor setting, 764 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: a training setting, or even you know, in meetings, I 765 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: think the will to compete and to exhale it helps. 766 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: It helps close that gap that rookies face, right and uh, 767 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: it lets us know who's willing to step up, you know, 768 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 1: in a league that I think is light years ahead 769 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: of college football and where these guys are coming from. 770 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: So that's the first thing. I think our guys have 771 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: done an excellent job of it this far. Now, look, 772 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: we haven't had one padded practice where I'm putting helmet 773 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: on get anybody, So you gotta temporaryr excitement. But I 774 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: just think that we'll see what those guys have shown 775 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: thus far that they're they're willing to compete and that 776 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: they are obsessive about their craft and winning. So I 777 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: think that generates trust from the coaches and we'll see 778 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: if that can you know, bleed on into the preseason. 779 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: And the regular season. But it's it's a step by 780 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: step process like what we've seen this far, but it's 781 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: it's the genesis of what this sport is about. Like, 782 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: you have to be competitive, right, not just with your 783 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: opponents or your teammates book, but yourself. And so that's 784 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: one of the traits and one of the things that 785 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: we look for and you see it early on. You 786 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: see that it doesn't take you to have five or 787 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: six years in the league to be competitive or to 788 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: want to have that want to be as good as 789 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: you can be. So that's kind of where we are 790 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: with that. One of the themes we heard over the 791 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks as the guys were in the 792 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: building for OTAs and then of course for a mini 793 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: camp was this was the first quote unquote normal off 794 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: season in several years. There was, you know, some kind 795 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: of semblance of a mini camp last year, but it 796 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: was shortened and the guys were out before a Memorial Day. 797 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 1: Of course, the previous year it was really limited. Same 798 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 1: thing for you guys with the draft room and twenty 799 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: it was all zoom, and then last year everyone was 800 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: sprought out in terms of different rooms for you to 801 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: come in last week see all of the guys together 802 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: really for the first time, seeing this whole group coming together. 803 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: How great of a benefit it was not even just 804 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 1: those three days, but how much benefit could you see 805 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: to having that true offseason program that goes through the 806 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: first week of June and you have that period, especially 807 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: new quarterback, installing a new defense to be either to 808 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: set this team up to be where they want to 809 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: be when you come into training camp. Yeah, it I 810 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: think it's been ultra important when you talk about especially 811 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan being a new quarterback, it helps generate 812 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: a connection with teammates. We know that this game has 813 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 1: a lot to do with chemistry and that can only 814 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: be formulated when you're on the field together, working together. 815 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: The past two years have been extremely odd and weird 816 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: for everyone, but in our league, repetition deepens the impression, 817 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: like repetitions the mother's skills. So the more reports that 818 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: you get together as a team, they're going to bond 819 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: together and get closer. And there's so much you know, 820 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: attrition this in our industry with guys moving to different teams, 821 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: and you know every year a lot of teams have 822 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: a face left. So with the new talent, that we 823 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: bring in, whether it's a rookie or somebody from another team, 824 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: or Stefan Gilmore or Matt Ryan, whoever it is. We 825 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: want to give those guys a chance to jail and 826 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: you only get you only get a chance to do 827 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: it ultimately through being on the grass, being on the field. 828 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: So it's been great to get in there, even, like 829 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: you said, for a three day session of you know, 830 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: a veteran mini camp. That's pivotal going into the off 831 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: season because you really get to let everybody know like, hey, okay, 832 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna take a break, but this is 833 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: where we start. We're starting where we left off at 834 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: the mandatory mini camp, right, So I think that being 835 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 1: able to create a starting line where we launch from 836 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: its important. And we had a great three days of 837 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: camp and we'll continue it through training camp. One of 838 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: the veterans scout described in particular of seeing the rookies 839 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: out for the first out there for the first time 840 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: is especially the guy who you worked on, the guys 841 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: who you scouted. It's almost like going as a kid 842 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: and opening the Christmas presents under the Christmas tree on 843 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: Christmas morning and you get to you get to play 844 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: with the toys for the first time. You get to 845 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: see what these guys look like in a horseshoe helmet, 846 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: see what they look like within this offense or defense 847 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: or on special teams. Do you get that type of 848 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,959 Speaker 1: excitement when you get to finally see those new guys 849 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 1: in the building, whether it's the rookies or a guy 850 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: like Unique and Goquay or Stefan Gilmore or Matt Ryan 851 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: who came in in the off season, Oh, no question, 852 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: no question, because you see it all come together. It's 853 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: all on paper until you get on the field and 854 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: kind of get to put it all together. But it 855 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: is an excitement because they'll let you know the season 856 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 1: is almost upon us. You get to actually see your 857 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: work live and in person. Now, see how guys move, 858 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: how they inter rank, how they compete, and really to 859 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: this point, like it's we haven't obviously we're not to 860 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: the point of contact or collisions or anything like that, 861 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: but we're studying the movement of the players, Like that's 862 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: really what we're doing, is to just studying the move 863 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: how players move and just seeing those guys like an 864 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: Alec Piers come in and I mean the guy looks 865 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 1: like a human slinky when the balls in the air 866 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: like hew, he's able to contort his body and move 867 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: and those kind of things, and I think it's even 868 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: better than you saw on tape at Cincinnati. So those 869 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 1: things are encouraging. And then you know, getting to speak 870 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: to talk to players and kind of see how they're motivated. 871 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: It's all cool, and there's so many different parts and 872 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: pieces that kind of drive this thing, and you need 873 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: everybody all on one accord, so to just be a 874 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: part of that especial. I think that's why team sports 875 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: is so loved in our country, and I think that's 876 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: why football is the greatest sport that there is in 877 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: the world, because you have, you know, eleven people at 878 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: the time playing off each other on the field, and 879 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: that's not easy to do. So when you can draft 880 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: the right people add the right pieces, they're able to 881 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: make something difficult look easy, and that's why they're the 882 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: greatest athletes in the world. It's just great to be 883 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: a part of that in any form of fashion. Seems 884 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: like a good place to end our conversation here. That's 885 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: Morocco Brown, the Colts chief personnel executive. We learned a 886 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: lot got Elk Pierce is the human slinky. I love 887 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: that one. And uh, I'm gonna go back and study 888 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: at Thesaurus now because I got to come in strong 889 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: to training. Listen as the team writer man, I am 890 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 1: on thesurus dot com all the time. I got to 891 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: get a book though. Many you watch you, You're talking 892 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: to meetings all this time, and you're you know, you 893 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: are really hard on guys. You're like, hey, maybe this 894 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: guy didn't quite come out of the route to do that. 895 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: And then you see a guy you come out there, 896 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: You're like, wait a second, this guy has either been 897 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: working on it or he's a little bit different than 898 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 1: we thought. So yeah, it's good to see and yeah 899 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: he does have a little bit of slinky. Well, Morocco 900 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed the bigger, faster Jordy Nelson. So just for you 901 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: like it, we just keep ending this on a high 902 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: and higher note. I love it. Morocco, thanks so much 903 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: again for your time. Enjoy a little bit time off 904 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: here before we see you back up in Westfield in July. 905 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: Rock You're the best. Thank you so much. All right, guys, 906 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: enjoy the break. All right, Thanks again to Colts Chief 907 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: Personnel executive Morocco Brown for joining us, Casey, Let's go 908 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: to the mail bag. Here's the mail. It never films. 909 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: It makes me want to like my tail when it. 910 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: Remember you can tweet your mail bag questions to me 911 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: at JJ Stankovitz, to Lara at Lara Overton, to Casey 912 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: at C Valier Colts. Which is v A L. I 913 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: wish my name was like brown, so much easier, but yeah, 914 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: v A L L I e er to touch. Yeah, 915 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: and at may take that. That's Vale. You know. It's 916 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: funny because, um, you know, there's been numerous times where 917 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: you try to have somebody pronounce your name and like, oh, 918 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: good name. So yeah, so I'm okay with anything. I 919 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 1: Actually I played baseball in college and for the first 920 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: year my coach called me Valier because that's how do 921 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: he thought. And then he heard somebody else call me 922 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: Valier as a sophomore and he's like, why didn't you 923 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: correct me. I was like, I was a freshman, I 924 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: was not playing and you were saying my name, so 925 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,280 Speaker 1: I didn't care how you were saying it. Coach. Anyways, 926 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: this mail bad question comes from broad Rippled Darts at 927 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: r Underscore Darts on Twitter. Obviously, Super Bowl Champs is 928 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: the main goal, But what results would still constitute a 929 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: quote successful season. On the other end, what result would 930 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: be considered failure. I love this question kind of gets 931 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: you thinking about the bigger picture. As we're sort of been. 932 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: We've been really granular looking at mini camp and practices 933 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: and stuff. Let's zoom out a little bit. What would 934 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: constitute a successful season, Lara. First point, you gotta win 935 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: the division. You gotta get back on top of the 936 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: AFC South. That's what I'm gonna say first and foremost, 937 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: and then that's your path. Then going into the playoffs 938 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 1: having won the division, get a playoff victory. I think 939 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: both of those things would prove to you that the 940 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: trajectory is strong and you are putting the organization on 941 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: the path to long term success. I agree, I'm gonna 942 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 1: go with two of those, though, I'm gonna say winning 943 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: the AFC South but also winning in Jacksonville. I think 944 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: if you can do both of those things, you look 945 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: at the season ago that was a success. But I 946 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: think agreed, winning the South is so important, and I 947 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: think one of the reasons it's so important is because 948 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: the AFC is pretty stacked, and that's the easiest path 949 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. You want to be able to take 950 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 1: care of your division and let all those quarterbacks out 951 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: there in the West kind of take care of themselves 952 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: on each other. You don't want to be fighting for 953 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: one of those wild card spots. You want to be 954 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: able just to kind of take care of what you 955 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,760 Speaker 1: can And I think that is definitely a success because 956 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 1: well I can't. I'm blanking on the last time it 957 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: happened was two the fourteen since the Colts on the 958 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: AFC South. So it's a division that you know, throughout 959 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: the duration of the South being there, the Colts have 960 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: owned it, but for the last handful of years the 961 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: Colts have not, So getting that back I think is 962 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: definitely the first point. Yeah, I completely agree on the division. 963 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 1: The The route I went for my second one was 964 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: go into twenty twenty three feeling really good about Matt Ryan, 965 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: were like a slinky you on your route to get there. 966 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: It was Yeah, they no one calls me the humans play. 967 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: No one calls me that. Um. But the Colts, obviously 968 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: we all know, for the last few off seasons have 969 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: gone into the year after a season with questions at quarterback. Yeah, 970 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 1: go with So this is Essentially, Matt Ryan is good. 971 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: He is a solid starting quarterback at worst. At best, 972 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 1: he is very very good. And you can go into 973 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three not having to address that position through 974 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: a major free agency move. Um, you know, the Colts 975 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: still could go and draft someone next year if you're 976 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: feeling like you want to go get that young guy 977 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: and you're convicted that you know, hey, this this young 978 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: guy in the draft could be our quarterback of the future. 979 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: But go into the off season without needing to make 980 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: a change, that's a good one. Yeah, that would be 981 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: to me, that would be a success because if you 982 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: do that, by the way, you're probably winning the division. 983 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 1: You're probably being competitive in the playoffs, and maybe maybe 984 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: things break your way and all of a sudden you're 985 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: you're in the super Bowl. You know, it could happen again. 986 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: If you have that level of quarterback play that the 987 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: Colts hope to get out of Matt Ryan, a lot 988 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,240 Speaker 1: of things fall into place to make a successful season. 989 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: Ask him about sing with with either hand. By the way, 990 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: next time time, I'll definitely do. Let me know how 991 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: that conversation we're back at that. Oh boy, I am 992 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: going to one of these days one of these days, 993 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: I am going to actually think about that and like, 994 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: actually think of a way you'd try it out with 995 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: Henry and Charlie. Let us know how it goes well. 996 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they come from b They're not going to 997 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: be that athletic. I hope they are. I hope they are. 998 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: But we get Marshall and Johnny Ryan out there just 999 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 1: exactly someone was better, better guineage, you know, from Matt 1000 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: Ryan and his wife. His wife, Sarah was a college 1001 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: basketball player, So those kids can read pretty athletic my kids. 1002 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: Sorry Henry and Charlie, but you come from daddy's athletic traits. No, 1003 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 1: oh no, no she does. Sorry, Betsy. I really gave 1004 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 1: him an opportunity. I totally teat him up to say 1005 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: some nice things about you. There are plenty of great 1006 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,879 Speaker 1: things I love about my wife, but she is not 1007 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 1: someone who like when she was playing softball, there's this 1008 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: great story that her family always tells about how she 1009 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: had to play catcher once and she just had no 1010 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: interest in even catching the ball from the pitcher, and 1011 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: the umpire was like, could you try? So that's why 1012 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: I got hit Enough he was done with it. Um 1013 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: It seems like we've already kind of get into got 1014 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: into some random thoughts here, but let's play the jingle 1015 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: for Mate's random thought of the week, Mate Random thought. 1016 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 1: Oh and why is the carpet all went Todd? I 1017 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: don't know, Marco. You guys going out of town if 1018 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: it's cold there for these vans get good cash? Myleoge 1019 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: sh shut off. I just picture Mate sitting on a 1020 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: beach in Florida and just having so many different things 1021 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: pop into his head among them, and unfortunately Sam's the 1022 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: only one to be Usually we can be the audience 1023 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: for this. She deserves an award of some sort because 1024 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: among them, why is the letter W called W when 1025 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: visibly it should be called double V? Well, in cursive 1026 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: it's two US. Yeah, but no one uses cursive. Yeah, 1027 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: they don't even teach it anymore. No, you know that 1028 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: they don't even teach teach any well, I mean, you know, 1029 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,720 Speaker 1: I've got to I've got to do all this research 1030 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: now because I had kids and we're thinking about schooling. 1031 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: Not at all, that's not at all why I know this, 1032 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: But I know they don't teach cursive. And my first 1033 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 1: thought is, how does somebody sign their name? You just 1034 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: draw a bunch of squiggles and that's good enough. That's 1035 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: what mine looks like. I got a C and a 1036 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 1: V and that's it. But so what other things about 1037 00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:00,760 Speaker 1: the English English language make absolutely no sense? Oh, Casey 1038 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: and I were having this discussion earlier. I don't think 1039 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,240 Speaker 1: we have enough time. There's not enough times. The number 1040 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: one thing for me, the plural of beer is beers. 1041 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: The plural of deer is deer. What the hell? Who 1042 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: decided that that's a good one? That is? That's one 1043 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: I've never really thought of until you brought it up. 1044 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: I think, I want to say, you brought that up 1045 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: to me about a month ago. Yeah, and it really 1046 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: got me thinking, that's really good front of my brain. Actually, 1047 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 1: I've got so many. I mean, like, here's one I have. 1048 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: Why do we park in a driveway and drive in 1049 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 1: a parkway? I've never understood that. But here's one that 1050 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: that I found actually yesterday. I never saw this before. 1051 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: Rough and cough do not rhyme. They're spelled. You know, 1052 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 1: you got the R and the sea they should spell. 1053 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: But the word pony and bologny rhyme. How does that 1054 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: make any sense? Right? That's the English language for there's 1055 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 1: just a whole bunch of things I don't understand, like 1056 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: I before E except after ce. But then there's a 1057 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 1: handful of words like ancient where it doesn't work that way, 1058 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: just like the word colonel just terrible now to awful word? 1059 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: How do you spell that words C N E L. 1060 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: It's colin. You're from Kentucky, so yeah, yeah, you have 1061 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,439 Speaker 1: to know how to spell colonel exactly exactly. Uh yeah, 1062 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: that one's always been weird for me. Um, I don't know. 1063 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: There are so many is where, like you know, the 1064 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: like our boys are two and a half and they're 1065 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: learning words and casey, I know you can probably identify 1066 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: this too with this too, but like they're learning these 1067 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: words and you're like they're counting, and it's like they 1068 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: get to eight and I'm like, someday you're going to 1069 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 1: realize that like one, two, three, five, six, seven, eight 1070 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 1: is the exact same pronunciation as I ate something yep, 1071 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: And like that's weird. Why is that? Like who who 1072 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: decided that two words that sound exactly the same could 1073 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: have completely different meanings? That's I mean, I want to 1074 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: talk to the manager of the English Language. It's like 1075 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: the word tearing We've now gotten into a lot of 1076 00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 1: a lot of linguistics between Morocco referencing asaurus hour going yes, 1077 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: these are the questions we needed from Morocco, right, yeah, 1078 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: we should have really served this up to him. I mean, 1079 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 1: like the word tier and tier, so you've got tear 1080 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: and t i er they're spelled the same or they're 1081 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 1: spelled differently, sound the same. But then if you look 1082 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: at the word tear and tear, they're spelled the exact 1083 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: same but pronounced differently. How does that work? Like I 1084 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: just got you know, and this is one of the 1085 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: things that I always loved talking to a writer with JJ, 1086 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: Like how how frustrating does it make you? Because you know, 1087 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: this is this is the la we went to school. 1088 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: You're an English major? Is that correct? Journalist? Journalism, which 1089 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: is you know, you had to take a bunch of 1090 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 1: English classes. Like I feel bad for all those like 1091 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 1: English professors because they're probably like I don't understand why 1092 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,720 Speaker 1: any of this is it, but I have to explain 1093 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 1: it that way. Here's the thing is, I know I'm 1094 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: going to be terrible at teaching my kids English like 1095 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: sentence structures and conjugation all that stuff, because I'm just 1096 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,399 Speaker 1: gonna be like, well, this is how it is, right, 1097 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 1: not like this is why it is, because there's no reason. 1098 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 1: Why is it like that? I'm like, I don't know 1099 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: if that's any expl nation for math and why weird 1100 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: things in calculus or as they are. I don't know, 1101 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 1: just it it's like just work. I don't know. Yeah, 1102 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: I can't explain the theory behind it because it makes 1103 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 1: no sense. I'm with you, I I there are so 1104 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,320 Speaker 1: many things, and I'm sure there's plenty of that I'm forgetting, 1105 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,720 Speaker 1: but I just there, there's so many things just doesn't 1106 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,399 Speaker 1: make any sense, and I feel bad for people. I'm 1107 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,479 Speaker 1: gonna leave and there's gonna be all these that. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, 1108 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 1: you're just drop them, drop them in a text thread. 1109 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna be like you're gonna roll over at three 1110 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning and just be like, huh, well 1111 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: just give what could possibly make a g silence in 1112 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: a word? Yeah, no sense? Yeah? Well do we'll continue 1113 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: this next week. We'll have part two of No. I 1114 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 1: don't think anyone wants that. I don't think anyone wants that. Um, 1115 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 1: We're no, we do not need to think about this anymore. 1116 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: Than we already have. But everyone listening to this probably 1117 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: will now. Oh yeah, and let us know no, thanks 1118 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: Matt for that that question. Yeah, yeah, which I am 1119 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 1: sure he is pondering over over some cocktails with tiki 1120 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 1: umbrellas somewhere somewhere in Key West. What does Mate? Maybe 1121 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,879 Speaker 1: a Mitie guy, maybe Mate Colada. What's honestly, I feel 1122 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: like Mate is probably like a Miller lighte guy. I 1123 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: want to matter where he is, he probably drink some 1124 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 1: Miller Light. You know, those cocktails are like you tip 1125 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: over the Corona bottle and it goes. Yeah, I could 1126 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 1: see those are fun those guys. Yeah, those are fun drinks, 1127 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 1: fun beach cock Okay, I like it. Happy anniversary to 1128 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 1: the tailor. Cheers to the tailor, Cheers to them for 1129 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: being good sports. That's gonna do it for us here 1130 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: on this episode of the Official Cults Podcast, presented by 1131 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 1: win Bet. Turn on those notifications by subscribing to us 1132 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: rate review Us on the Colts Audio Network. You are 1133 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: not going to want to miss some of the episodes 1134 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 1: we have coming up over the next couple of weeks. 1135 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: On Friday, the Last Word is going to bust out 1136 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 1: burning questions on the Colts Wide Receiver Group, as well 1137 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: as an interview with Paris Campbell. Also, this is really cool, guys. 1138 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,760 Speaker 1: Later this month, we're going to have the Colts Reunion 1139 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 1: podcast series Come Back sit down interviews with Robert Mathis, 1140 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: Dwight Freeney, Marlon Jackson, Antoine Bufet, and Ring of Honor 1141 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: remember Chris Hinton. Those are going to be really interesting 1142 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 1: kind of retrospectives on each of those guys careers, what 1143 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: they're up to now, Really really good stuff. You're definitely 1144 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: going to want to download those listen to them while 1145 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: you're traveling around the country over the summer, you know, driving, places, flying, 1146 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: You want to stay tuned to everything we have coming 1147 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: on the Colts Audio Network. We are going to be 1148 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: back next week with another episode of the Official Colts 1149 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: Podcast four Casey Valier and Lara Overton, JJ Stankovitz. Thanks, thanks, 1150 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: that was good. Thanks for ending the podcast on it. Yeah, 1151 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next week.