WEBVTT - What Does It Take To Make Peace? A special episode with Bobby Bones, Mike Posner, Jeremy Gilley and Tim Phillips 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:06.439 My name is Christina Carmona. Hi, my name's Media Christina. 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:10.080 My name is. My name is Latizia Comai. I am Carlin. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.160 I'm anombous here and I'm from Pakistan. My name is 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:16.720 Tommy and I'm from Billy from East Los Angeles, California. 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.000 From Phoenix, Arizona. My name is Dara Baba and we 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:23.600 are from the Purpose Christie, Texas of Mexican descent. I'm 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.119 Chinese and on Vietnamese. I'm mostly in Norwegian, but a 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.960 little bit of everything else stand Outasian mixed with Finnish, 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:34.320 mickwith Uh, Native American, Samoa and all different types of things. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:39.599 We are all connected, We're all connected, we are all 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.760 we are all connected, connected are all we are all one. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.440 We are all one, one planet, one race, one consciousness. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:50.600 And I am one person taking one action to get 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.600 us closer to peace, one day, closer closer to piece, 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.680 one day to peace, one day. Who will you make 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.440 peace with? Today? Who will you you? Wh will you 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.680 make who will you make peace with? Today? Will you 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:08.679 make a peace week? Today? Hey, it's Bobby Bones. So 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.279 honored to be with you today hosting this very special 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:15.200 episode of Spits in celebration of Peace Day. We're live 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.559 from the daytime stage at the I Heart Radio Music Festival, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.720 and what you just heard or concert goers lending their 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.600 voices for peace. Peace Day is where we put our 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.360 differences the side. Let's power of music bring us together, 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:30.360 because when we realize that genetically we're all nive at 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.200 the same and focus on what connects us, we get 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.200 one step closer to peace one Day. We have gathered 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.560 the most peaceful people we know to join us as 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.240 we tackle the question what does it take to make peace? 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.959 First off is Peace one Day Ambassador Artist Guy got 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:48.280 to know a little bit Mike Pos and we're gonna 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.720 see you, buddy. What get you get your beard full? 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.600 Full on? How long to take you to grow that thing? 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:59.560 Maybe like eight nine months? It's very peaceful counting. It's 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.360 like you're one. It's still growing it as we speaking currently, 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.160 so posting it. Mike Posing is here Piece one Day founder. 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.880 Jeremy Jeremy, how are you God? Jeremy. Yeah, it's great 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.320 to be him man. Yeah, good to see. You've heard 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:11.640 a lot of great things about you. I was walking 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.160 up and they were like, you're gonna love Jeremy's like 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.799 the best dude, So no pressure, but they like you 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.760 the best dude. Bunch of people doing a great joke 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.960 to raise it day. We're really grateful. And uh, Tim Phillips, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.360 founder of Beyond Conflict, in nonprofit organization that works with 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:29.160 leaders to address conflict and promote social change. And so, uh, 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.760 this is a heavy room, Like Tim, it's a pleasure. Man. 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.679 I'm three awesome people here. I don't even deserve to 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.920 be in this room right now. That's crazy. So on 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.040 today's episode, what we're talking about, like for real, is 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.799 what does it take to make peace? And I'll say 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:47.520 this that you know, we as humans are genetically ninety 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.000 nine point five per cent the same meaning if you 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.079 go into our DNA for as different as we it 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.280 seems that we are, and we look on TV or 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.640 the Internet, it's like we look around everybody so different 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.040 in reality if you're just using add and we're ninety 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:05.639 nine point five percent the absolute same, meaning there's only 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.000 zero point five percent of us that separates every human 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:09.800 on the planet, which is pretty awesome to know that 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.440 we're in this thing together. And I think that's also 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.799 why we're here, is because we really are on this together. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.240 Peace day is about reminding us how much we have 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.120 in common. Jeremy, I want to come to you. Can 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.200 you tell us a bit about your vision when creating 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:21.920 Peace Day? Peace one Day? Yeah, I mean, I was, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.120 you know, nineteen years ago. I was concerned and confused 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:26.919 about what was going on in the world. You know, 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.520 I couldn't understand the destruction and the starvation and the 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.760 killing of innocent people, what we were doing to our planet, 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.320 in each other, in our homes, communities, schools, and places 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:35.480 of work. And so I thought, you know, I'll make 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.320 a film about peace. And then I realized there was 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.680 no day of peace with a fixed calendar day. And 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.720 so I had this idea that I'd make a documentary 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.360 about trying to establish the first ever day of ceasefire 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.120 and non violence, the first ever peace day with a 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.400 fixed calendar date. And I hope that would bring us together, 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.120 and out of that unity would come hope and a 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.720 belief that you know, we know, by working together, we 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.680 can you know, make a real difference and lift the 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.840 level of consciousness around the fundamental issues that humanity faces. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.320 And after years of traveling the world voted for the day. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.120 The twenty one September is now he stays celebrated by 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.040 my heart and uh, you know twenty three and me 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.200 last night. And when we once we've created that day, 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:08.720 we then wanted to prove it could work, and that 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.720 took us into Afghanistan. We spent a couple of years 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.680 trying to negotiate a ceasefire there, which eventually happened. The 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.880 Talaman agreed to not kill or kidnap on that day, 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:21.160 and that allowed us to mobilize around ten thousand vaccinators 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.719 with UNICEF and w h O and vaccinate one point 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.880 four million children against polio as a consequence of that, 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.400 And then the last few years have been about telling 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.000 the people about the day. And that's why you know, 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.640 what Mike did and what you guys are doing, what 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.479 twenty three and me and what you know I Heart 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.040 have done in terms of raising awareness of the day 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.000 is a wonderful thing. So we're really grateful. Tell me 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.920 about Afghanistan, Like, that's gotta be nuts, right, You're going 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.520 into a place that super bold and you're going in 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.400 and you're you're going to have this idea I need 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.320 to negotiate with you, Like, is that scary for you? 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.479 As a human being. Well, no, I mean I think that. 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.080 You know, when you climb the mountain, you know, you 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:54.800 you focus on each grip. You know, you're not really 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.440 looking at the you know, the top, you're not thinking 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.480 about that. You just kind of like focused on on 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.880 every moment. And that's what we did. And I had 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.359 a lot of help from YUNAMA and NATO, ISAFF you know, 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.880 cars I, the British government and many other parties including 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.480 you know, obviously local people that were key and central 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.880 to the success of it. So you know, you don't 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.640 really role like that. It's like you, guys, when you 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.160 get on stage, you know, that's what you're on stage 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:17.880 last night. I mean you got up there in front 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:19.960 of I don't know, millions of people, nobody, nobody would 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.880 be trying to shoot me. Well, that's crazy, Like you're 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.919 an Afghanistan. Like that's that's brave. Like you have this 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.680 noble thought in this bravery inside of it, which is 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.480 why you're here. Like it's rare for someone to have 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.919 an idea. You said nineteen years ago, we said on 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:37.080 the road nineteen years nineteen years you're chasing this idea, 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.719 this grandiose idea, this beautiful idea and you're putting yourself 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.880 in situations that aren't comfortable to make sure that this 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.600 idea is achieved. What inside of you do you think 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.159 it is? The push? Is that? Why? Why why do 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.960 you keep going after nineteen years? Well? I think that why? 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.400 You know the numbers like, so, what's gonna happen yesterday? 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.119 There would have been about a billion people now fully aware, 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.080 there would have been around eighteen million, nineteen million people 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.560 who changed their behaved yesterday. So that's a decrease of 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.839 violence of around eight million people. And that's what fires 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.800 me up, the idea that you know, on a day 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.960 like this, people are mobilizing, they're changing their behavior in 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.599 the home, the community, the school, and in places of work. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.400 And that just blows my mind to think that a 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.960 child wouldn't be bullied in the classroom as a consequence 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.279 of them being involved in a peaceful activity. Is what 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.240 this is all about. What's fascinating is around five six 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.560 percent of the conflict that will happen today will happen 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.080 in an area of conflict. The bulk of violences in 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.440 our homes, community, schools, and places of work. And what 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.600 fires me up is that when we generate awareness of 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.839 this day. Then that creates opportunities for people to engage 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.920 in the peace process, and that decreases violence and creates 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.520 a happier world. So you know, that's what keeps you going, right, 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.120 you know, it's love that come on, that's crazy. And 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.240 you know we go back and you know I talk 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.440 about twenty three and me and you talk about peace 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.400 and in our homes, you know, I say Afghanistan. But 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.360 then you make a great point, like in our homes, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.440 Like that's where it all starts for us. You know, 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.320 we can have this peace in our homes and take 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.479 it out another world and kind of spread the seed. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.880 But we are so much the same as people. I'm 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.920 inspired right now to talking to you. Come on now, Michael, 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:07.680 gonna talk to you. Mike Posner sitting right next to me, 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.400 he's right to my right. So how how did you 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.880 get involved? Like we're sitting here and we've set beside 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.720 each other in other situations. How did you get involved 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:18.240 in this? Well, it's for me. It started when I 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:23.320 heard the story of Christmas Day. The Middle World War 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:28.800 One trench warfare, you know, rats, poisonous gas that the 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.880 Germans are on one side, French and British or on 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.280 the other in the middles no man's lamp. That's where 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:37.520 that term comes from the First World War. And on 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:43.440 Christmas Day against orders, right, uh, the soldiers decide we're 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:48.040 not fighting and in some parts of the line they 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.400 exchange gifts, and other parts of the line they actually 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:54.280 played games of soccer with each other side that should 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:59.000 be fighting each other. And I heard this and I just, 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.800 I mean still talking about it, the hair stands up 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.640 on my arms, and I just thought to myself that 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.720 they could. If they could do that that day, then 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.080 we all could do that for one day. And then 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.720 that's when I found out myself about that there was 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.240 a day dedicated to this, that a bunch of people were, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.840 you know, already practicing peace on this day, but not everyone, 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:22.680 not everyone knew about it. I didn't know about it 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.080 until I started looking. So I just wanted to um 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.160 it help spread awareness. And that's when, yeah, we we 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:33.480 connected with Jeremy and then connected with my heart, and dude, 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.120 what a story. I had no idea, Like you're telling 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.000 me that you're talking about two sides that are fighting 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.120 war with each other, like trying to kill each other 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:45.520 for a cause, but because of Christmas Day, a piece 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.040 day for them at the time that they were able 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.000 to go, hey, let's just let's just set it aside 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.560 for a second. Yes, it's like a glimpse of what 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:57.079 is possible. I feel and if you, if you really 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.920 think about it, we're evolved to to really care and 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.400 love about a hundred people like we. We we lived 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:10.679 in tribes, you know, the human species, and through evolution 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.800 and believing in in ideas and concepts, we you look 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:19.040 at the concept of a nation where you might give 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.320 your life for someone that you never met a million 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.160 miles away, you know, across the country. So we've come 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:28.080 a long way, right, and that we kind of we 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.720 can see someone, hey, that that person is American. They're 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.160 like me. So there's only a like, not that big 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.120 of a step to just see everyone like that. I'm 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:39.760 making sense. You're making a lot of sense. And I 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:43.160 wonder as you're you're talking about this and your creation, 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:48.400 because you're you're constantly creating things, sounds, words, music, like, 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.320 how does this that inside of you influence your music? Well? 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:56.000 For me, I think that the outside world is a 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.559 reflection of our collective inner world. Right, So if you 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.480 got anger and hatred inside you and gets reflected in 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.560 and what the world looks like, you know. And so 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.720 I was trying, always trying to purify, meditate my butt off. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.880 I've been spending some time as some monast theories and 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:16.800 I saw that. Then you go do like a bunch 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:20.000 of days. I did twelve days in solitude, you know 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.720 it just just with myself, and you start to observe 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.840 your own mind, and you see how wild it is 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.760 and how negative it is sometimes and hateful it is sometimes, 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.760 and you start to disidentify from it because this is 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:37.240 just my my brain muscle talking. It's not me. And uh, 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.559 to answer your question, I just want to create more 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.600 from more from that place, not my brain talking yammering 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.520 in my mouth, more from that place of of connectedness. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.679 Love it so inspired. Right, look at you, guys, tam 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.040 I want to talk to you for a second over there. 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:52.520 And so I'm sitting at the table Tims on the 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.720 other side of the table. Terms of tall, good looking fella, 0:10:55.880 --> 0:11:01.680 How tall are you too tall? Too tall? As a 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.280 conflict resolution expert, that's your that's what you are, right like, 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.079 that's I'm the messing that up because that's a cool name, 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.520 like that's it. Yeah, kind of conflict resolution expert or 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.079 somebody's teaking to get it. How do you even how 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:16.600 was that even the thing that you go, hey, I 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.000 can do this, Like I just wonder you go, I 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:23.280 can resolve conflict? Like how did you start in that 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:28.400 area of of of your career or your your heart, 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.200 like where you want to fix things? Well, I was 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.720 listening to what Mike and Jeremy had to say, and 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.600 it really resonated with what I've observed over twenty five 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.720 years um when I started it, I didn't start with 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.200 this idea of becoming a conflict resolution person. I just 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.880 sort of thought the world is pretty screwed up, and 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.080 you see a lot of conflict emerging. This is around 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.640 the end of the Cold War, So on one hand 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.360 it was positive with the end of the Cold War, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.320 but also the Balkans and other countries are falling apart. 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.079 And I often say, being the youngest child of a 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.360 large family ever problem with authority. And I remember going 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.360 to Eastern Europe in the region, thinking why don't these 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.680 people get together with people who themselves had been through 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:13.080 conflicts or transitions from dictatorship to democracy. It was Argentina 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.480 and Chile and Spain after Franco. So with this very 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.360 simple notion that there is a shared human experience that 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.360 if you bring people together to see that others have 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.760 struggled to change it come out the other side, that 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.280 that could be really valuable. And so that's what began 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.400 the journey. And when I started, there really was no 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:33.520 failed or conflict resolution. And frankly, you know, the conflict 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.480 is inherent in society, so it's really about how do 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:40.240 you manage coexistence and and so we've worked in seventy 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.079 five countries and one of the most important things I've learned, 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.760 starting from a friend in Central America, he said, all 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.600 conflict is fundamentally driven by exclusion. You know, when you 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.280 don't feel safe in the world, you really can't engage 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.520 in the world. Um. And then more recently we've started 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.560 working with brain and behavioral scientists because they're sitting in 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.440 these apps, in these silos with profound knowledge of what 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.120 it is to be human, you know. And I was 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.679 mentioning to somebody yesterday that it even shows which is 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.800 interesting tied to twenty three and me, is that the 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.719 same part of our brain that experiences trauma can't differractuate 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:22.359 between physical and emotional trauma, So we experience uh, humiliation 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.559 and exclusion as physical pain in our brains. So when 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.760 you start I'm packing that you start to see how 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.719 much all of this really connects. This reminds me of 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:36.840 of some experiences I had meditating at the monastery. You 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.880 feel anger come up and for and if you really 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:45.679 track it, I would have a a thought first, and 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.199 then you're absolutely right, you experience I mean, anger is 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.720 a real thing in your body. For me, I feel 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.240 in my left leg, I feel hot, right, and it's 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.400 a it's a physical thing. It's not real to anyone else, 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.280 but real to you. You know, Geman, let me ask 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.960 you this, how do we facilitate making people feel like 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.120 they belong? Well, I think it's really interesting what you 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.480 were talking about in terms of humiliation and exclusion, because 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.120 absolutely right, when you're humiliated and you're excluded, then of 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.120 course you've got no other option, right to but to 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.319 fight your way out of it if that's the position 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.120 you've been put in. And what a tragedy that is 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.920 for those who are in that situation, especially young kids 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.920 in schools. Right, And that's uh, you know, a real 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.760 focus for us in terms of Peace Day. Um so, 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.920 I you know, I think that you know, it's uh, 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.840 it's an interesting you know situation where we face and uh, 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:34.280 you know, we've got to do all we can to 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.920 raise awareness of Peace Day, you know, manifest action on 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.960 the day and get people involved. Tim, what do you 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.840 what do you think is holding us back from the 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:45.040 piece that we're trying to create, Like what what's the 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.320 first boulder in the road that we can move. We 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.440 have this instinct to try to ascribe others intentions and 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.240 who they are in the world, right, to try to 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.880 feel safe. What we all want is to be seen 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.080 is did you see under the under student and validated 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.480 as we see ourselves in the world. And I don't 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.360 mean this in any sort of like kumbayahweh. You know, 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.360 science is now confirming that right. As one scientist said 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.160 to me who got me interested in science, He said, 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.920 you know, we're not these rational beings with emotions at 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.640 our core. We're emotionally based beings who can only think 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.600 rationally when we fail that our identities are understood and 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.520 valued in the world. And with that at the starting point, 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.840 I mean, I've just seen that at every level of 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.240 conflict and transformation around the world. And I've seen in 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.120 our country now, and I think, you know, we have 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:33.160 to recognize what fundamentally drives human nature is to be 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.120 seen and validated and feel safe. We're wide for survival 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:40.120 um our brains. It's really amazing our brains evolved to 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.840 be predictive and not reactive. We're constantly predicting our environment, 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.000 which is where do I fit in? Do I fit in? 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.040 And when you don't fit in, you feel like you 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:53.160 don't belong. So belonging is a fundamental biological need that 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.040 humans have. And I think we'll begin to achieve peace 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.480 when we recognize that that's what we all want and 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.240 that's what the others around us wants. With twenty three 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.040 and me, I've I've done it, and you know, you 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.800 start to see your genetic genetic makeup, and you know, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.000 the things that you can learn about yourself to help 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.240 even your things are prettyisposed to even. And so whenever 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.080 I say that we're nine point five the same as 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.440 everyone else, Mike, what do you think about that number? 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.520 And what does that say to you? And that we 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.400 kind of are the same and we can do the 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.920 same thing. The first thing I think about when when 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:28.240 you asked me that question was a few years ago 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:33.520 and a few albums ago. I thought that my brand 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:42.480 of sadness and suffering was unique. I thought, Man, I 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:47.440 feel crummy sometimes, and no one understands that my sadness 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:51.200 is very special. It's a special strand of sadness, but 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.880 it's really not. We all know what it's like to 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:59.680 feel lonely, to feel rejected, to feel alone, to feel 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:05.879 not seen, and um, that in itself, you know, is 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.919 a uniting factor for me. So I don't think I 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:13.520 answered your question directly, but that's where I went with it. Well, 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.240 what I think that even I took from you saying 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.439 that is that, you know, the uniting factor is that 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.360 like we kind of already are united, we just don't 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.080 even know it yet. Like we're the same. We just 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.280 have been told we're not. We've been shown that we're not, 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.440 but we haven't been shown enough that we are the same, 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.879 you know, And listening to you know, to listen to 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.760 you guys talk about that, it's it's an education, you know, 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.320 we were not educated yet on and on really our similarities, 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.960 on how we love the same one and how he 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.200 Mike's just talking about how he doesn't have this unique 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.720 brand of sadness. We all have the same sadness. We 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.439 just don't share it with each other, so we don't know, 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.360 you know, we don't have the education of happiness, empathy, 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.080 and so we feel alone when we're not. I feel 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.040 the same sad that you feel. But I feel so 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:59.720 alone because I don't know whether you feel that. And 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.360 I love that's what you guys are out here doing. 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.680 You know, it's an education, you know, you know, Jeremy, 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.840 I'll come back over to you, like as you're here 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.159 and you're working with Ihart Radio and twenty three and 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.480 me like, when you leave here, what would be like 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.800 a good takeaway for someone like myself and even for 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.679 you to leave with people that are they're here And 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.080 I think it's really interesting that we talked about unity 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.000 and we talked about education, and you know, education I 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.679 think is absolutely key to humanity survival. I think if 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.840 we want to live in a peaceful and sustainable world, 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:27.600 then we've got to give the tools to young people 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:29.560 to be able to resolve those issues in a really 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.440 fundamental way. I mean, how can you expect it to 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.639 all change if we haven't given the skills to young 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:35.520 people to be able to do that, right, I mean so, 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.760 so I think that the twenty one September is an 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.600 incredible opportunity for unity. And as I said earlier, out 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:42.840 that comes hope and a belief that we can climb 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.800 the mountain together when we're one the strength in that, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.320 and out of that strength comes all kinds of incredible 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.120 ideas that really can lift the level of consciousness around 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.119 the fundamental issues. So my take away from this is 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.000 that it's amazing how music, you know, can drive awareness 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.280 of something and that where awareness manifest action, you know. 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.359 And I'm just really excited that you know, Mike reaching 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.480 out to me and that beautiful poem that he wrote, 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.880 and those amazing artists and my heart and twenty three 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.200 and me have just told an awful lot of people 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.919 about the twenty one September, and I think that, you know, 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.960 by working together, you know, we can create peace one day. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.760 So you know, I would say to everyone, you know, 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.359 bring the family together. We want peace every day, not 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.640 just one day. So you know, tomorrow just think about 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.439 bringing the family together. Who have you fallen out with, 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.320 you know, get let's get together. We we change the 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.560 quality of our relationships and our families, then that's absolutely everything. 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.240 And if we're doing that all over the world, then 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:35.080 nobody will be excluded. And that's real peacemaking. Peace and 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:38.240 change and a better world is in our hands. It's 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.640