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Speaker 3: To see the boys out there getting some work in.

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Speaker 3: a great name. I don't tell you what to do.

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Speaker 3: I thought you hated that opinion. Okay, yeah, you don't

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Speaker 3: think that's a difference. You were mad at everybody.

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Speaker 1: I'm not mad. I'm just surprised, said I was surprised.

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Speaker 3: You said you were mad at the beginning, I said,

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Speaker 3: I was surprised. I think the quote was I'm upset

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Speaker 1: I thought that the fans would think the way I

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Speaker 3: I don't tell people how they should think. This is

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Speaker 3: back to you requiring people to learn about the history.

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Speaker 1: You probably thought the SS minnow was a little fit.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 1: at Jill's Stadium, and it's kind of a sad day

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Speaker 1: in Boston sports. And of course I'm talking about the

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Speaker 1: Tristan Cassas injury derailed the red flat no Celtics. I

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Speaker 1: was telling somebody today, I think it was you, Evan.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't approach seven when the Patriots lost to the Giants,

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Speaker 1: but if they lose to the Knicks in the series,

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Speaker 1: it'll come close.

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Speaker 4: It'll come close, and not even in the same stratif

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Speaker 4: that be a bigger upside.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, there's a bigger difference between the two teams.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I know we don't want to talk Celtics,

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Speaker 6: but yesterday I was in the middle of just a

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Speaker 6: rager between all y'all going forward, and Paul was just

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Speaker 6: in his element, Like I've never seen Paul.

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Speaker 3: So excited as like he's facilitating arguments.

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Speaker 6: Left him right, He's on Fred's side, He's on Evan's side,

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Speaker 6: and Matt Smith, no socks comes in.

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Speaker 3: I was switching Allegiance, lighting everybody.

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Speaker 1: He was like, isn't this Greg, We're all arguing.

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Speaker 6: I love it so after I saw the result this morning,

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Speaker 6: of course, because I did not watch the game last night,

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh boy, we might be in for

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Speaker 3: Like legitimately woke up this morning, I watched a little

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Speaker 3: won the game.

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Speaker 7: Well, I watched the little last night.

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Speaker 3: I thought twenty point leads were safe and I was like,

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Speaker 3: this is never gonna happen. Twice in the third quarter.

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Speaker 8: Evn't had a tweet. I sat there the same time

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Speaker 4: I sat there in silence for the last like eighteen

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Speaker 4: I can just feel it, like this is this year

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Speaker 4: comes the same movie again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not surprised you you didn't watch, because I

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Speaker 3: know you don't really but you generally didn't know who

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Speaker 4: Morning, I said, I wish I was more like that,

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Speaker 3: I just I mean, I assumed that it would go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was actually mad last night. I was I

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Speaker 8: I was mad the first time last night. I was

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Speaker 8: like the audacity of them things. They deserve it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, you know, uh Oklahoma lost and Cleveland lost,

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Speaker 8: I was angry and want a man basketball to this kid.

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Speaker 8: But oh shout out to the listener. I didn't get

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Speaker 8: it has nothing to do with the Knicks defense, like

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Speaker 8: totally taking them at a tempo. But okay, but one

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Speaker 8: from pu here you know which one. I was like, yes,

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Speaker 1: Could just well, Anthony says, they just want to say

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Speaker 1: only people on Celtics Twitter who has been confident in them,

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Speaker 1: critical of them, and also gave props to the Knicks

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Speaker 1: rather than discredit them. Signed a Patriots and Knicks fan.

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Speaker 1: How can you be a Patriots, Oh Patriots a Knicks fan?

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Speaker 1: I thought he meant Celtics.

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Speaker 8: Well, people are like a delusional they really are, Like

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Speaker 8: the shots will fall eventually, the shots just starren't falling,

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Speaker 8: and it's like the Knicks were literally built to content.

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Speaker 1: Me eventually the next game. In this game, they're not falling.

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Speaker 1: Adjust and you.

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Speaker 8: Know you have bridges, you have heart, Nobly like they

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to Man's playing anything because I don't

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Speaker 3: want to get yelled at by you. But this has

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Speaker 8: Very I disagree.

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Speaker 3: I disagree Jason Tatum's standing all by himself in the

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Speaker 1: But he don't get me on the rebounds. Of his

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Speaker 1: rebounds is everyone they take like twelve he gets credit

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Speaker 8: Tatum's like twelve for forty two, He's like for forty

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Speaker 8: something this series. That can't have nothing to do with

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Speaker 8: the Knicks. They're totally taken them out of their game.

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Speaker 3: Sixty three pointers in the last two playoffs. He ranks

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Speaker 8: And they need to play game.

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Speaker 3: They only play two games the move.

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Speaker 8: They need to run sets instead of settling for just

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Speaker 3: I agree that he doesn't have anything to do with

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Speaker 8: They've they've purposely built this team to defend the compete.

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Speaker 3: In the regular season, but come back from twenty point

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Speaker 8: Well, the Celtics are the more talented team and that

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Speaker 8: but they're not executing. The Knicks are executing, and that's

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Speaker 3: It's well, when you miss fourteen shots in a row

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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. That's not defuse.

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Speaker 1: When you're that much better and you get a twenty

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Speaker 1: point lead twice in a row, there's something wrong with you,

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Speaker 1: not not, there's something good with them.

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Speaker 3: I give the rhythm.

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Speaker 8: The Celtics control the tempo when they play the way

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Speaker 1: All right, So the Knicks are a better team then.

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Speaker 8: No, I don't think that. I still think the Celtics

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Speaker 3: These teams aren't close and talent.

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Speaker 8: I still think the Celtics could win the series.

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Speaker 3: I do too, But they sound like this. We sound

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Speaker 3: on close, the Celtics, they're the ball.

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Speaker 4: I mean they are quite early, the Celtics close. If

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Speaker 3: So much better.

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Speaker 4: They're a better team.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, talent, they're not executing.

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Speaker 4: The usually not in that lead to go to the like,

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Speaker 3: That's why I still think the Celtics will win. But

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Speaker 4: I mean it really just I know there's a lot

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Speaker 4: it's really that simple. I mean, like that's the sport. Like,

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Speaker 1: Ye, all right, let's talk Patriots. Rookie mini camp is

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Speaker 6: It was about an hour, little seven on seven, but

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Speaker 3: It's it's a lot of that stuff logistics.

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Speaker 1: It's not a real practice. Yea, it's not real practice.

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Speaker 1: It's in shorts. I think they're going to be inside

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Speaker 1: because it's going to rain, so rather than just you know,

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Speaker 7: It's a lot more exciting.

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Speaker 6: Last year when you had a rookie Drake May, that

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Speaker 4: Well, it's also just like even when they get into

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Speaker 4: seven on seven, no disrespect at all to Ben Woolridge,

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Speaker 4: but like we're not none of us are there to

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Speaker 4: watch Ben Woolridge. Whereas last year you had May, you

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Speaker 3: A lot of like throw it to Kyle Williams just

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Speaker 3: we want to see Kyle Wims start to him.

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Speaker 4: J Wilcox, Right, Yeah, I mean usually they throw in

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Speaker 4: in the NFL, they throw in like one to seven

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Speaker 4: on seven, usually towards the end, just to like seeze everybody,

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Speaker 4: you know, players included. I'm sure it's.

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Speaker 3: Like, well Campbell's nobody, no sacks allowed.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna be great tomorrow for him.

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Speaker 1: Great start, no pressure, no pressure, right, So that'll be tomorrow, uh,

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Speaker 6: Three day camp and then we should see not next week,

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Speaker 6: be full team access to I think it's so what

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Speaker 3: But you know the Steelers very different trade.

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Speaker 3: By then, I am, yeah, I get to do it. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Bring all the equipment, every next thing you have to come,

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Speaker 8: They leave to radio without you, and I'm like, Paul,

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Speaker 3: Cross It's like he's got his glasses on.

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Speaker 7: He's in the crossrooms.

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Speaker 4: just that's just what the tea leaves have been this

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Speaker 7: To me getting rid of Pickens, like that's part of

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that they're actually going to it sounds

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so they drafted Roman Wilson last year, who

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Speaker 3: I think it's an interesting year in Pittsburgh. You know,

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Speaker 3: like Evan says, well, that's not tanking. So what exactly

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Speaker 6: But it's such a different I just have such an

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Speaker 3: In this year, it seems like that's the direction they're

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Speaker 4: So I would imagine that that's where this is headed.

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Speaker 4: But we'll see. I don't know, I know, you know it. Pickens,

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Speaker 3: You can see both sides of that argument. Keeping him

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 6: When you have a confidence that you've developed receivers consistently

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have this streak of you know, uh

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Speaker 4: One percent? Yeah, I'm sure that's important to Tomlin. Like

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Speaker 4: Paul Shows like to say they're they're the Bruins of

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Speaker 4: We're happy with that. That's that's the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: As I should.

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Speaker 4: But it's hard because like he pulled.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for the quarterback position, like how are they going

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Speaker 6: And if Rogers comes, what you know, what do you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he can get paid big time to stay,

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Speaker 4: but he's he's never really done it. So we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't to me, it doesn't bode particularly well.

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Speaker 4: And I get that maybe there was promises made and

446
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Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff, but like quin YOUWRS stinks,

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Speaker 4: And they continued to run quin Yours out there last

448
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Speaker 4: year with arch Manning on the bench, Like if arch

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Speaker 4: Manning was really this like prodigy you know, Andrew Luck,

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, like they're not playing Queen Yours and in

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Speaker 4: big time playoff games and stuff like that. So that

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Speaker 4: does give me a slight pause unless there was some

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Speaker 4: sort of handshake agreement that Quinn Yours wasn't going to

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Speaker 4: get benched.

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Speaker 3: But it's possible. It is what happened to Brady, Right,

456
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Speaker 3: everybody said, why is this other guy playing? Is this

457
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Speaker 3: hot shot recruit Drew Henson? Yeah, you got to get

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Speaker 3: him in there, you know, like quin Yours was the

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Speaker 3: number one recruit in football when he came out. I

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Speaker 3: agree with Evan. He's a seventh round pick. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think he's very where do you live, very average Miami?

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Speaker 4: Maybe? Yeah he is bad, Yeah he's bad.

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Speaker 3: Bad is probably be strong, But I mean he's a

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Speaker 3: seventh round pick. You know, he played behind a guy

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Speaker 3: who went the seventh round. What did Rex Ryan say

466
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Speaker 3: about Mac with the pea shooter? That that that's Queen yours.

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Speaker 3: He's got a little squirt gun. You know, there's a

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Speaker 3: little more mobility.

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Speaker 4: That's quin years.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, can't I can't argue. I don't think qu

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Speaker 3: that's yours and it's got a little squirt gun.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, last show, we we uh talked a

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Speaker 1: lot about Hall of Fame. We have some emails that

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Speaker 1: came in about that Tyler from Ludlow responding to Tuesday Show,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I have to step in to defend

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Speaker 1: Goskowski as being a team Hall of Fame or already

477
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Speaker 1: in the team Hall of Fame are the team leaders

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Speaker 1: in passing, rushing yards and touchdowns receiving yards. Gronk will

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Speaker 1: be in there soon for touchdowns, interceptions, force fumbles, and sacks.

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Speaker 1: If a player retires as the clear leader in points

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Speaker 1: vinitarius second with more than six hundred points separating them,

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Speaker 1: they should be in the Team Hall of Fame. Not

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Speaker 1: saying he needs to be first ballot, but he is

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Speaker 1: well deserving of a spot in the hall.

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Speaker 3: Agree or not disagree?

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Speaker 1: I disagree to.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think a lot of those points were

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Speaker 6: tied directly to some of the highest scoring offenses in

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Speaker 6: NFL history as well. So you know, if you want

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Speaker 6: to maybe break it down like by kicks, I mean,

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Speaker 6: I think that'd be interesting just to look at generally

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Speaker 6: take some of the extra points kicks, but he really get.

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Speaker 3: Good nothing, it's nothing. Yeah, of his career, he was

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Speaker 3: a really good kicker. Hard being in the shadow of

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Speaker 3: the kicks the vinitarian I.

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Speaker 4: Would say, like the fact that he took over so

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Speaker 4: seamlessly for Vinitary was impressive, probably the most Like that's

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Speaker 4: big shoes to Phil to come after Vinitarian, and he

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Speaker 4: really didn't miss much of a beat. But to douce

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Speaker 4: his point, like how many of those points were nineteen

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Speaker 4: yard extra points because they were, you know, scoring forty

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Speaker 4: points a game, and he's coming in and kicking the

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Speaker 4: old pat's not the new one like the one from

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Speaker 4: nineteen yards. But I also have a like an issue

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Speaker 4: in general with like he's the franchise leader in points. Well,

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Speaker 4: the way that they calculate that every team's franchise leader

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Speaker 4: in points is a kicker, right, right, because much yeah,

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Speaker 4: because you don't get points for like throwing touchdowns, So

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Speaker 4: like everybody's franchise leader is a kicker.

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Speaker 8: So like is that like whoever plays the longest?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Is that like a great like that some great accomplishment.

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Speaker 3: And I would also say that in general terms, I'd

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Speaker 3: be against a kicker being in a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: unless he's special. Adam is special for obvious reasons, like

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Speaker 3: Kestowski was one of, as Evan said, thirty two guys

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Speaker 3: who lead their team in points, like because that's what

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Speaker 3: kickers do some of them separate themselves with what they do,

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Speaker 3: you know, in the clutch.

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Speaker 1: So if Justin Tucker hadn't had his off field stuff,

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Speaker 1: would he.

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Speaker 3: Be Justin Tucker? To me, would be an exception purely

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Speaker 3: taking the personal stuff away.

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Speaker 4: I think Justin Tucker has a chance. He has to

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Speaker 4: be in the.

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Speaker 3: Profrole football Hall of Fame caliber kicker he is. Okay, now,

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Speaker 3: he's probably never going to see it for obvious reasons. Now, yep,

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Speaker 3: he was. He was different, you know, Jason Hansen from Detroit.

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Speaker 3: You know, like there's some guys that are a little

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Speaker 3: bit different, and they then they make every important kick

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Speaker 3: for their team and you remember the big moments. Other

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Speaker 3: guys compiled.

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Speaker 1: Jordan and Kansas. Who do you think will be entered

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Speaker 1: into the Patriots Hall of Fame first? Devin mccordy, Wes

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Speaker 1: Welker or Matthew Slater. Also keep doing the player interviews.

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Speaker 1: They're fun and they seem relaxed with you guys. So

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Speaker 1: who gets in first, mccordy, Welker or Slater.

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Speaker 3: Mccordy, Yeah, I would say mccordy.

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Speaker 1: It should be Welker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it won't be Yeah, because you dropped a pass.

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Speaker 6: Those are really interesting names to consider, though, I wonder

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Speaker 6: how the fan base feels about I know they love

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Speaker 6: those guys, but is it the overwhelming love still for

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Speaker 6: Matthew Slater that you may or may not think he

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Speaker 6: does have.

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, I can't get all the better.

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Speaker 8: Like Slater was such a great leader guy, right, but

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Speaker 8: he's still a special teamer right at the end of

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Speaker 8: the day, which is very unique. But Devin kind of

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Speaker 8: had all those leadership qualities but was all right.

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Speaker 6: But like what's interesting to me is and I don't

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Speaker 6: mean this is it, like Devin McCarty's outstanding player, but

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Speaker 6: I think we talk a lot about him being not

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Speaker 6: having those signature moments, almost like Gostowski, you know, like

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Speaker 6: what's your favorite Devin McCarty play, Like him returning the

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Speaker 6: interception in twenty eighteen and Buffalo like like you know,

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Speaker 6: in three Miles and again, like I don't mean to

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Speaker 6: the key was key to making everything run on the

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Speaker 6: back end.

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Speaker 7: But again, it's like you.

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Speaker 6: Talk about Welker, there's a place that you can talk

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Speaker 6: about good and bad, but you know, with Slater and mccordy,

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Speaker 6: it's hard to like what's their highlight?

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Speaker 3: What did their highlights look like?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 4: I could get some highlights of Gunner tape.

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Speaker 6: Yeah right, I know it's like nobody's But do the

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Speaker 6: fans appreciate yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know, like do the fans love mccorty as much

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Speaker 3: as we think they do? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I feel like Devon is the perfect team Hall of

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Speaker 4: Fame guy though, right, Like, you know, I held on

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Speaker 4: and off the field like perfect Patriot and you know winner,

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Speaker 4: you know as the rings like I agree, you know,

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Speaker 4: at his peak, was he a top five safety in

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Speaker 4: the league? Like maybe, but he was never Earl Thomas

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Speaker 4: right like, he was never like the best safety in

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Speaker 4: the league. It's not probably not a Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 4: of Famer, but a Patriots all Like that's that's what

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Speaker 4: the Patriots Hall of Fame is forced but.

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Speaker 3: At a high level for a long time and did

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Speaker 3: it right on and off.

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Speaker 6: I guess what I'm just speaking to more is the

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Speaker 6: unknown quantity of having fans vote and how the fans

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Speaker 6: really feel about guys, and you get into a little

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Speaker 6: bit more of a popularity contest.

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Speaker 1: I put mccordy a little with Matt White, like they're

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Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, yeah, sure, Like you know, they came in,

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Speaker 1: they finished their career, they were solid throughout their careers.

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Speaker 1: To me, both of them don't get it. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's just the way I am.

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Speaker 4: I also think Devin Will, you know, he's still in media,

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Speaker 4: he's still active, you know, in that side of things,

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Speaker 4: following you.

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Speaker 3: I think that's Mike's point, right, you got to mobilize

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Speaker 3: the troops to vote.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that they might.

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Speaker 1: Jeff in Canada. If you don't like the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame order who should be in first situation, then blame

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Speaker 1: the ballot. I voted for Edelman because he was the

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Speaker 1: best Patriot player on the ballot. Adam will get in

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Speaker 1: when he's running against lesser players. Edelman played offense, punt return,

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Speaker 1: and even cornerback for a game, Vinitaria played about five

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Speaker 1: percent of the snaps ps will Jordan be allowed to come?

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Speaker 1: For Bill Belichick Knight? Of course she's gonna run down there.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be following her orders, So of course she's invited.

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Speaker 1: I hear what he's saying. But in this case, Vinitaries

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Speaker 1: five percent were incredible, you know.

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Speaker 3: I just because it was like this unique situation where

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Speaker 3: Edelman how to play. Some snaps had safety one year.

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Speaker 3: Shouldn't like tip the scales.

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Speaker 7: I mean ary tax herschel Walker too.

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Speaker 3: And he threw a touchdown pass? Does that count?

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Speaker 4: That was a good touchdown pass too.

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Speaker 3: I shooped him. If you think gentlemen's a better player,

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Speaker 3: which is what he started with, that's I think that's

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Speaker 3: a perfectly logical reason. I think he was the best

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Speaker 3: Patriot on the ballot. That's why he picked Edelman. I

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Speaker 3: like that the reasoning. I'm not necessarily sure it makes.

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Speaker 1: A lot of sense, Roberts says. While I am disappointed

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Speaker 1: that Jewles made it to the Patriots Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: over Adam, I find it far more upsetting that Adam

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Speaker 1: didn't make the NFL Hall of Fame on the first ballot.

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Speaker 1: Jewles is a self made success story, having entered the

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Speaker 1: league as a QB and exiting as a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: MVP at wide receiver. He represented the heart of the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and maybe more so than any other during his second

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Speaker 1: dynasty run. Watching his development over his career was inspirational.

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Speaker 1: Adam's stats, clutch performances, and longevity put him in the

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Speaker 1: top tier for best in NFL history. The recency bias

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Speaker 1: cost him a first ballot for the Patriots Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: but I will forever die on the hill that he

633
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Speaker 1: was a lock for a bust in Canton on the

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Speaker 1: first ballot. I planned to be front and center at

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Speaker 1: the ceremony when the NFL writers finally decide to pull

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Speaker 1: their craniums out of their collective arses and fix this

637
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Speaker 1: egregious error. Ps. Will we ever hear how the vote

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Speaker 1: totals for Jewels, Adam, and Logan turned out?

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Speaker 3: I know them, but you won't hear that we do

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Speaker 3: not make that public?

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we've ever made that public.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, I could say, if you want it right now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I could say that it wasn't as close as I

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Speaker 1: thought it would be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not surprising.

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Speaker 1: I would say in political terms it was a landslide,

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Speaker 1: although I'll say it was thirteen percent difference between Adam

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Speaker 1: and Jules.

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Speaker 6: It goes back to what I said earlier. Mean, Jewels

651
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Speaker 6: got a huge post career following. He's got a podcast,

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Speaker 6: he's got and the fans love him. I mean, he's

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Speaker 6: made huge plays.

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Speaker 8: It's the time they played too like Twitter was catching on,

655
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Speaker 8: Instagram was catching on. Edelman really got to reap the

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Speaker 8: benefits all of all that, and he really put himself

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Speaker 8: out there, you know. And I think it's a lesson

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Speaker 8: in like the importance of branding and marketing yourself while

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Speaker 8: you have that window and you're still playing.

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Speaker 6: It's funny I say that out because I honestly think

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Speaker 6: I've seen it a bunch of times. So many people

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Speaker 6: sign up for Twitter in April of two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 8: I had my fourteen year anniversary the other day.

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Speaker 6: I know I was in April two thousand and nine,

665
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Speaker 6: but I just see a lot of people shouted that,

666
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Speaker 6: like because that's and that was right when Jewels got drafted.

667
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Speaker 1: So I mean, what was going on April two thousand.

668
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Speaker 3: And Twitter was coming to the celebrities.

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Speaker 7: I was coming to the forefront.

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Speaker 1: And then you went on, yeah, well you were you

671
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Speaker 1: said you were celebrity.

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Speaker 3: I forget exactly, Well, you were only six years old,

673
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Speaker 3: probably I was.

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Speaker 8: I think I was like, it was high school, but

675
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Speaker 8: you're old. I don't I was in high school, early

676
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Speaker 8: high school. But I don't remember what the exact motive

677
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Speaker 8: was to sign up. I know some of my friends,

678
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Speaker 8: like and Nick for example, like got on because there's

679
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Speaker 8: like a video game promo that they were pushing people

680
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Speaker 8: Twitter early on.

681
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Speaker 6: So I remember my little sister to me and I'm like, what,

682
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Speaker 6: like you just post like one hundred It's just a

683
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Speaker 6: little sentence, and I'm like for what?

684
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Speaker 3: Like who? I just didn't complaint? Doesn't go back and

685
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Speaker 3: find all these things. But I'm sure that fred Andy

686
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Speaker 3: and myself had a colossal rip fest on Twitter when

687
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Speaker 3: it first it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: I was at an NFL conference question and the guy

689
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Speaker 1: from the Chargers, like, my peer, this is when it

690
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Speaker 1: first started. He's like, oh, sign up with Twitter. We

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Speaker 1: can d M.

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Speaker 3: But I wanted to.

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Speaker 1: When these first started out, it was Facebook and Twitter.

694
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Speaker 1: Yeah I like Twitter better, Yeah I did. I didn't

695
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Speaker 1: like Facebook from the get go.

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Speaker 8: Did we have a team my Space?

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Speaker 3: I was on my the o G. I don't think

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Speaker 3: we ever had a team.

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Speaker 4: Remember how you could like rank your friends.

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Speaker 8: You could rank your friends, you would have your favorite

701
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Speaker 8: songs and oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it's step that.

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Speaker 8: Was the first one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know what my Space was. I never

705
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Speaker 3: had an account, but I think that you were too

706
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Speaker 3: young to do.

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Speaker 4: No that was right now, right, in our wheelhouse.

708
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Speaker 3: Space didn't monitor, even though that's what the four you

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Speaker 3: tried to align yourself.

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Speaker 4: I'm ninety four, yeah years, she's two years younger.

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Speaker 3: Big difference, and she asked me different. She got a

712
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Speaker 3: lot of.

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Speaker 8: Long time I had my computer usage monitored, and it

714
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Speaker 8: was not monitored.

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Speaker 4: I would think that you guys would be too young

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Speaker 4: for I mean, I definitely was like it was. It

717
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Speaker 4: wasn't like I was towards the end of my Space

718
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Speaker 4: actually being popular when I finally got one.

719
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Speaker 3: Did you ever have a MySpace account?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 8: I taught myself to code making my Space layouts.

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Speaker 4: There you go, fancy, Okay, women in stem.

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Speaker 3: It's another example of how women something about everything that

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Speaker 3: she can add to conversation.

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Speaker 8: Basic coach is HG.

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Speaker 3: Mike, Did you have a.

727
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Speaker 6: I did have my Space, but I didn't use it

728
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Speaker 6: a lot. But I really enjoyed Facebook initially just because

729
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Speaker 6: it was reconnecting with everyone. I think you graduated high

730
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Speaker 6: school with college.

731
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't spoke as good as I don't think

732
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Speaker 3: it was ever like kind of a younger. No, it

733
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Speaker 3: was at first, and then I know I know why

734
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Speaker 3: the Facebook. I saw the social network shout.

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Speaker 4: Right I was on Twitter right away, you know, just

736
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Speaker 4: getting into arguments with people over sports, Like day one.

737
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Speaker 4: I I downloaded that app and was like, it was

738
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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna yell at people.

739
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Speaker 8: John Mayer that got me on Twitter.

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Speaker 7: He was your body is a Wonderlan.

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Speaker 11: I No.

742
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Speaker 1: I like Twitter from the get go, I really did.

743
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Speaker 1: I thought it was to me, it was the better app.

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Speaker 3: I hated it then and I hate it now. I

745
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Speaker 3: mean I understand the uses of it now that I

746
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Speaker 3: never really saw at the beginning. Fred did. Fred, I'm

747
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: sure yelled at Andy and I for being stubborn. Big shock.

748
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Speaker 1: But back then Facebook was the monster that was.

749
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Speaker 3: But no one really used Facebook for like news or information.

750
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Speaker 3: It was like what you were talking about.

751
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 8: Drive from high school.

752
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: In terms of web traffic, Facebook kills Twitter it It

753
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: drives way more traffic.

754
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Speaker 8: Also just internationally, so many people don't use.

755
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Speaker 3: In other countries.

756
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not even close. Like you can look

757
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Speaker 4: at it in our metrics.

758
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Speaker 3: It's not overly surprised.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Matt in Rochester, New York. Following up on some

760
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Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame last week, I wanted to

761
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Speaker 1: send in a list of players and see what you

762
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Speaker 1: think about their chances to make the Patriots Hall of Fame.

763
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Speaker 1: It's five people, Danny and Mondola, Malcolm Butler, It's Von Gilmore,

764
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Speaker 1: James White, and Dante High Tower.

765
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Speaker 8: So I was brought up High Tower, High Tower and White.

766
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Speaker 4: I think if Kevin Falk is in James White.

767
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Speaker 3: The last two I think have legitimate chances.

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Speaker 8: And if you're talking about like those iconic moments, High

769
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Speaker 8: Tower and James White have them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Gilmore I think has a shot you. I think

771
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Speaker 3: in the order that you have there, I would say

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Speaker 3: that Gilmore in the middle of there is on the fence,

773
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Speaker 3: and the other two I think are in the first

774
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Speaker 3: two I don't think.

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Speaker 6: I mean he's got the key plays too, with the

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Speaker 6: AFT Championship past break, one of us plays the.

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Speaker 3: First two, I don't think we'll have any chance of

778
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Speaker 3: getting in them. They might have the most iconic plays, right,

779
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: like Amadola didn't even have the volume, but he has

780
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Speaker 3: these memorable game winning plays. And obviously Malcolm Butler might

781
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Speaker 3: amaze replay that people.

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Speaker 1: Know Gilmore had a great Mareak against, but I don't

783
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Speaker 1: think he should. I don't think the first three I

784
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Speaker 1: don't think you should get in Amadola, Butler and Gilmore.

785
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: I can see based on who's in now white and.

786
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Speaker 8: How many years, And for me, the difference maker is

787
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Speaker 8: how long they're with the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Four years for Gilmore and he's only a Patriots for

789
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Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty right, four years, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty quick. High towers should be in high Tower?

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Speaker 3: Did him right in twenty Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Twenty one. I think the twenty summer twenty one could

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Speaker 4: have that wrong, but I feel like I'm right. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: the high Tower, that's too short. I feel like high

795
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Speaker 4: towers a lock like high Tower.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, high towers should be able.

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Speaker 7: You got to start plotting it out though, like's not

798
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Speaker 7: a certain point you're gonna get. That's the obvious ones

799
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Speaker 7: and then you know unless.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like Pall brought up some of these concerns

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Speaker 3: to people once a part.

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Speaker 1: Of the time Salmon Salmon Saint Catherine says, a couple

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Speaker 1: of hypocritical arguments I don't get that have been going

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Speaker 1: on with the Hall of Fame topic on the show. One,

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Speaker 1: it's a big deal for Adam that he's the all

806
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Speaker 1: time leading scorer in the NFL. For his Canton resume,

807
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter that Goskowski is for the Patriots Hall.

808
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Speaker 1: Couldn't you say Adam was lucky to benefit from shorter

809
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Speaker 1: extra points and being attached to two of the greatest quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: see I I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I ask you, but that's not that's not my

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Speaker 3: reason for Adam Vini Terry being a Pro Football Hall.

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Speaker 1: Of Fame exactly. You took the words out of my mouth.

814
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Speaker 3: Now it's it's part of his rest just like it's

815
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: part of Gostowski's resume.

816
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Speaker 1: Right, But that alone doesn't need to have those game

817
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: winning kicks with the Patriots, including the one in the

818
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Speaker 1: snow which tied the game, wasn't even a game winner, right.

819
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Speaker 3: I don't think I wouldn't be talking about him like this. No, yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of good kickers.

821
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I could care less for that's all kickers about

822
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Speaker 4: the points.

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Speaker 1: That's why I said last show that I think the

824
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Speaker 1: reason why Adams being considered for the Hall of Fame

825
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: in Canton is because of what he did with the Patriots.

826
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Speaker 3: And what he did when the money was on the launch, what.

827
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Speaker 1: He did with the Patriots clutch in clutch time.

828
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Speaker 4: I mean, he has some of the he has in

829
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Speaker 4: my opinion, the snowball kicks the greatest kick of all time.

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Speaker 3: It's in a lot of people's opinion.

831
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Speaker 4: And then he has a Super Bowl game winning kicks

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Speaker 4: on top of that, right, So I mean, it's that's

833
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Speaker 4: why he's he's even in the conversation for any of

834
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Speaker 4: these halls.

835
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Speaker 3: And it's like a forty eight yarder. It's not like

836
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Speaker 3: this twenty two yarder.

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Speaker 4: You know, even now, I still can't believe he made it,

838
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Speaker 4: just knowing how the snow is coming down that night

839
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Speaker 4: and like conditions.

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Speaker 1: It's just it was unbelievable to Adam being held back

841
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: due to fans not liking that he left to join

842
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: the cults. But it won't count for Gronk, who literally

843
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: retired because he didn't want to play for the Patriots anymore,

844
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: only to unretire when he had the chance to go

845
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: to the Bucks. That one's a fair argument, like why

846
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Speaker 1: do we not hold that against Gronk, but we hold

847
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: it against Minette.

848
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Speaker 3: Because Gronk didn't leave for money. I don't hold the

849
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Speaker 3: fans blame ran Terry for leaving for money.

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Speaker 4: But I don't hold it against either.

851
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 3: But I don't hold it against either one of them either.

852
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: But it's it's it's friend's right. That's that's a good.

853
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: That's more of a fair. Analogy is they've overlooked it

854
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 3: for Gronk, and they didn't overlook it for Vinitary. I'm

855
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 3: telling you, when vinit Arry left, he was vilified. People

856
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: thought that he was selfish and he took more money.

857
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: He had nothing to do with it, but that's what

858
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 3: they thought leave for because he didn't want to play

859
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: for Belichick anymore. He only wanted to play with Brady.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

861
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 4: Oh, I think here's a combination of those.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think he's on the record. He's on the

863
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Speaker 3: record saying.

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Speaker 1: I want to play with them, play with yeah, yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Ryan in Oceanside, California, he says Evans hypocrisy. Evan believes

866
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Speaker 1: the Patriots Hall of Fame should go in chronological order,

867
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: but thinks it's insane to consider the Star Wars movies

868
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Speaker 1: that are actually titled in chronological order, in chronological order.

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Speaker 1: Fred duson Marine, Matt, you need to teach him a lesson.

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Speaker 4: Teach me a lesson, guys.

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00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: I like that.

872
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: Numbers.

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Speaker 4: Your Their favorite Star Wars movie is the third one,

874
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: not episode three.

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Speaker 6: The third one, Well, I would take into account how

876
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Speaker 6: old that person was.

877
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 4: Nope, take that out.

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00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 6: Of it, and I would say Josh Dobbs was young.

879
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 6: So I want to say third one is probably going

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Speaker 6: to be Revenge of the.

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Speaker 4: See, I don't think that episode. In my mind, the

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Speaker 4: third one, what are you doing?

883
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: I wasn't paying If someone just can't to you and said,

884
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: my favorite Star Wars episode is episode three.

885
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: No, not not episode just the third one.

886
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: The third one, the third one, the third one, would

887
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: you say, which one are you talking about? Would you

888
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: assume that it was?

889
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 4: Which was the third one? To me?

890
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: The third one is the third one that was released.

891
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: Thank you. I broken.

892
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 8: We got to follow up and ask and figure out.

893
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: I got to talk to do about this.

894
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: If you put it material to me, the third one

895
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,479
Speaker 1: is it's not number three. If you put it that way,

896
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: it's the third one that was released in chronological.

897
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: But here's the thing.

898
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 6: No one loves returning the Jedi as their favorite one.

899
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 6: People like the younger generation likes episode three or.

900
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: Probably I probably asked for clarification, but in my mind,

901
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: the third one is the third one that came out.

902
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: If I was being honest with one YouTube because you're

903
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: kind of like saying, like, how old is the person?

904
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 4: Well, I am one Joshua Dobbs's demographic. The third one

905
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 4: to me is Jedi, And if I'm being honest, then

906
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 4: I would say that as a kid growing up, Jedi

907
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 4: was my favorite because I didn't really like the story

908
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: and Empire Strikes Back is definitely better. But like I,

909
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: I just wanted the good people to like fight with lightsabers, right,

910
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: like I didn't really you know, so I I really

911
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 4: liked the third one growing up, like yeah, but.

912
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, the best one was the last one

913
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: that came out, which is three.

914
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: I thought he was.

915
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: It's the last one's your favorite?

916
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: The next one, the next one, the last one that

917
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: came out would be the neutral.

918
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 7: Worst, which was horrible.

919
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: I think we don't do cool stuff like this. By

920
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: the way, that they're an NFL network, the Rims. So

921
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: we came out they're they're doing their mini camp in

922
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: Maui and Maui I don't care camp.

923
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 8: Why amazing?

924
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: You got to go there?

925
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: No? No, thank you?

926
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: Well because the volcanoes.

927
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 4: No, I just like it's mini camp and now I

928
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 4: have to go right on a planet, Like.

929
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: No, what if all I would creak that camp was there.

930
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: Maybe a little bit better, but I don't give it

931
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: was two days. Can I sign me? I just like,

932
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 4: it's just not like if I'm going there and you're

933
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 4: like you're going to work like business, you're taking vacation

934
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: and esus.

935
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Spian Fresno says on catch twenty two This week,

936
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: barth essentially said that Julian Edelman had great memorable catches

937
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: clutch catches, while Welker didn't. This seems a gross oversimplification

938
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: and caused me to angrily spurred out stick to the draft, Bartholomew.

939
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: Both players had big drops and big catches. That comes

940
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: with the territory of being a great player playing in

941
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: a lot of big moments. People like Alex Bart selectively

942
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: recall one or the other, agree or disagree.

943
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: He's not here to defense.

944
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: I would largely agree.

945
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would too.

946
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 3: I think they both had memorable moments, and they both

947
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: had some disappointing drops.

948
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 4: In his defense though, like what's Welker's equivalent of the

949
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty one catch? Like he doesn't have a

950
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 4: catch like that, but.

951
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: That was a I look at plays like that a

952
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: lot differently. Than most fans.

953
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: But I'm not talking about it because I'm not like

954
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: talking about like the level of difficulty and stuff. I'm

955
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 4: just talking about the iconic moment, like in time like that,

956
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 4: that is an iconic play whether it was ten for

957
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 4: Lucky or what.

958
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 6: But like, yeah, it's also Hardley Luker's limited sample size.

959
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 6: I was just doing the math in my head. I

960
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 6: mean playoffs two thousand and seven. Of course, Paul mentioned

961
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 6: super Bowl might have been the MVP ninety eight. They

962
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 6: didn't make the playoffs. Nine he got hurt, ten they

963
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 6: got upset in the first round. He also i think

964
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 6: sat out the first right there. It was not when

965
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 6: he got bench by court by Rex and then eleven

966
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: and twelve, the you know, the run of the super Bowl,

967
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 6: which again I thought he was wasn't pretty good in

968
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 6: that suit, I mean other than.

969
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: The he was. Yeah, the numbers the more pless percentage

970
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 3: wise are not much different. But Edelman had far more

971
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: appearances in the playoffs. Just numbers are ridiculous. I mean, again,

972
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: this is not an anti Julian Like Julian Edelman is

973
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 3: a no brain, lock stock and barrel Hall of Famer

974
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: for the Patriots. Yes, like I'm not. I'm not upset

975
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: at all. I'm not Fred and I would teasing each

976
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: other on Tuesday. I'm not upset like that. It went

977
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: in an order that I didn't agree with. I just

978
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: would push back on the people that say that we

979
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: doesn't belong and there are people that are doing that,

980
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: And in fairness to the fans, it's not the fans.

981
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: He hasn't been on the ballot yet. We can't blame

982
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: this one on the fans. I blame everything on the fans.

983
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: I can't do that on this I can't even get

984
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: him on the ballot, and that's not the fans fault.

985
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: Jeremiah says. Gronk said on a podcast once that he

986
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 1: retired because the Patriots tried to trade him to Detroit.

987
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: Unless there's something I missed, that was the last thing

988
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: I remember him saying why he retired.

989
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: I thought that was.

990
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 7: Before he retired.

991
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 4: Before that, I was the off season before. So in

992
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 4: eighteen they did that. That's factual. They did try to

993
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 4: trade him to Detroit.

994
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: And it's all that is factual.

995
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was I remember standing in the locker

996
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: room and it finally came out that that happened, and

997
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 4: he confirmed it. He said, it said right to us that, yeah,

998
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 4: they tried to trade me Detroit and I threatened to

999
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: retire and the trade you know, fell through because I

1000
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 4: wasn't going to go to Detroit. I was going to retire.

1001
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: He was also said on the record that when he

1002
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: came back, he was only coming back to play for Brady. Yeah,

1003
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: it wasn't like whoever wanted for him.

1004
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 8: And I think when she did retire, he was just

1005
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 8: so banged up and didn't want to deal with the

1006
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 8: BS here that it was like what am I doing to.

1007
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: I mean, after the eighteen season, he was the injuries

1008
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: that he had sustained were incredible. Yeah, why did Bill.

1009
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 7: Try to trade them?

1010
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: Like?

1011
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: I mean, was that like I'm going to try to

1012
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: get out of it to get some value if I'm not mistaken,

1013
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: and someone will certainly correct me, and I'm not going

1014
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 3: to be all know it all like I normally am.

1015
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: I think it was the year that Baker Mayfield was

1016
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: the number one pick and they were trying to get

1017
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: first round picks to make steps to go from the

1018
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: bottom of the first round to the middle to the top,

1019
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: and I think it was Detroit. I think Detroit was

1020
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: one of the high pad. I could have this all wrong.

1021
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: I don't know about it.

1022
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: I could have the timetable all wrong. But it was

1023
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: the year that there was a story out linking Josh

1024
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: McDaniels to Baker Mayfield. It was Mary kay Capp and

1025
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: they needed to get I think Detroit's number one pick

1026
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: to get up with something like that, I forget, but

1027
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: there were some there was a series of trades they

1028
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: were trying to make.

1029
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 7: Wow, I've never never heard this.

1030
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 4: I've heard the Baker stuff. I don't know if those

1031
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: were connected exactly.

1032
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: He's probably all wrong, but I.

1033
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 4: Understanding the ground thing was always that it was the

1034
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 4: year too early thing or you know, rather you know,

1035
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 4: do it early than late. And Bill thought that Gronk

1036
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: was slowing down. The injuries were piling up, as we

1037
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 4: all know, and he thought that he was on the

1038
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: back nine.

1039
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: I was also during the height of the career all

1040
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: wars as opposed to the col and that's he wasn't

1041
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 3: He wasn't lifting anymore. He wasn't doing the not lifting,

1042
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 3: but he wasn't doing any squats. Remember, like you know,

1043
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: that's great for the quarterback to have playability, but the

1044
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 3: tight end needs the block, yeah, you know, and Bill

1045
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: was very frustrated.

1046
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 6: I think it's crazy thinking about it after watching the

1047
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 6: Dynasty documentary of how that would have gone over, because

1048
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 6: at that point it felt like they were barely holding

1049
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 6: this thing together and then to go and get rid

1050
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 6: of Brady's safety blanket Groank.

1051
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: We all know everything that Gronk is, like, that would

1052
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 3: have really.

1053
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 6: I I don't know what that alternate timeline looks like

1054
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 6: for Patriots fans and players, but trading Gronk to Detroit, yeah, I.

1055
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 4: Would always just say that a Seismicing that eighteen season,

1056
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: I feel like all the issues get masked by the

1057
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: fact that they put it together for one last dance

1058
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 4: and won the Super Bowl. That team was was in

1059
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 4: a bad spot for a lot of that, Like offensively,

1060
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: they were not very good for large stretches of the

1061
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: eighteen season, Like Josh Gordon had to come in and

1062
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: kind of like save the offense and be an outside

1063
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 4: threat for them. You know, they lost to in a

1064
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: row Pittsburgh and in the Miami Miracle, and like I

1065
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: remember doing at the time saying it was over.

1066
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, nine and five. Yeah, I at that at those times,

1067
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 3: like I had the utmost confidence that they would win

1068
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: every game, and I did not think they had a

1069
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: playoff running them.

1070
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: Even the defense like didn't really start to turn it

1071
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 4: around until the playoffs either. But they like the last

1072
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 4: two weeks of the season, they they kind of put

1073
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: together an offense that could you know, they went in

1074
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: twenty one personnel, run the football behind the full back

1075
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: and that like sort of became a base for them.

1076
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 4: But they were not a great team that year.

1077
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: No, they turned on in the right time.

1078
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 6: I don't want to bring up because but my mind

1079
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 6: went this with the Celtics, because I hear all this

1080
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 6: stuff about they need to change what they're doing, and

1081
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 6: it's to me, like I compare it, and I thought

1082
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 6: a lot about this with where the Patriots kind of

1083
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 6: found their stride schematically during the season. They still had

1084
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 6: to win a shootout in a different style in Kansas City,

1085
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 6: but not necessarily trying to get it back into Celtics talk.

1086
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 6: But like, is that crazy to tell a team like

1087
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 6: in the middle of the playoffs, like you need to

1088
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 6: change your identity right now?

1089
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: No, And I would I would say, and it is

1090
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: a little different like in terms of you know, different sports,

1091
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 3: but I would say that Everything that has been described

1092
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 3: about that team is accurate. Whatever just said, everything is factual.

1093
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: I would I would push back as to the why, like,

1094
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: yes they did. They got fat and happy those last

1095
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: two games, I want to say against the Jets and Buffalo.

1096
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah too, they were too division.

1097
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: There were two fatsy division games that they got fat against.

1098
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 3: They ran the ball very well, Michelle played well. They

1099
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: scored a crap ton of points in the two playoff games,

1100
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: forty one I think in thirty seven in the two

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00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: playoff games. They didn't just do that by lining up

1102
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Speaker 3: in twenty one personnel and slamm him Sony Michelle into

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00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: a brick wall. They still had Tom Brady. He was

1104
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: still Tom Brady, and he delivered.

1105
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Speaker 1: Again.

1106
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Speaker 3: Everything Evan said is right. I wouldn't.

1107
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 4: The Charger game was definitely more of a run game.

1108
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: I wouldn't argue about the validity of what we're talking about.

1109
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: I would just say Brady's presence is still there. You

1110
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: still have to play them as a past team now,

1111
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 3: and without that you can make all the changes you

1112
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: want and go three yards in a cloud of dust

1113
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: all you want. I feel like you needed to win

1114
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: one and a half shootouts. I would say that Evan's right.

1115
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: The Chargers game ends up forty one to twenty eight.

1116
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: That was one of those games that Fred and I

1117
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 3: like to sit in the easy chair and say, yeah,

1118
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: it was kind of close, but it really wasn't. It

1119
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: was one of those games the Patriots had the whole

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Speaker 3: way the Chiefs game wasn't the Chiefs game. They needed

1121
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: to throw the ball to continue to score with the

1122
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: and they made the ball well too.

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Speaker 4: They well, I just remember the zone to win the game. Yeah, right,

1124
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Speaker 4: they took the ball. I think they took the ball

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Speaker 4: first in both games, yep, which was very uncharacteristic as

1126
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Speaker 4: we know. And they they went in the charges of

1127
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: the Chiefs game. Both games they went on like ten

1128
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Speaker 4: plus play eight minutes, like pound the rock type of

1129
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: drives to basically shorten the game, especially against Kansas City.

1130
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Speaker 1: I remember the Patriots were up fourteen zip in the

1131
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: first half.

1132
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 3: I don't remember the I remember them taking the ball

1133
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: in Kansas City. I don't remember it being necessarily a

1134
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: ball control drive, but I'll take your work for it

1135
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 3: because I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember.

1136
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: Like to Douce's point, they're like the about the Celtics

1137
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 4: tie like. The opposite is that, like Brady in the

1138
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: AH Championship game, was like unreal on third down. And

1139
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 4: the reason why they were in so many third downs is,

1140
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: maybe you could argue, is because they were running the

1141
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: ball so much on first and second time.

1142
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like run into the line for nothing

1143
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: incomplete past third and ten right like that, And that

1144
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 3: works when you have Brady.

1145
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 4: That's what where the nerds would say, Well, if you

1146
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: weren't running the ball so much on first and second down,

1147
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: you wouldn't have lived in third down and and he

1148
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 4: wouldn't have need the greatness to come out, but it did.

1149
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: Chris in New Hampshire has critiques on all of us.

1150
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: He says, Fred, you're delightful, don't ever change.

1151
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 3: I would agree with that. That's a good, good, good.

1152
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm not here to tell you what to think. Followed

1153
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: by that opinion is stupid. I hate it and I

1154
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: look down upon those who have it. You get it bad, takeduce.

1155
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: We don't like winning, we don't want the first overall pick.

1156
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: We get it. You like the defensive side of the ball.

1157
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: Then complain about how many games it's Benson scoring thirty Well,

1158
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: once we get to seven to nine, nine and seven purgatory.

1159
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: Will you be pleased? Evan Barth completes him.

1160
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 4: Is that an insult?

1161
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 7: I don't know, God, that's just fact critique.

1162
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: So next time I catch twenty two, I want you

1163
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: to say to Barth, I can't quit you.

1164
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 4: But like that, that is the show, right like we

1165
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 4: you know.

1166
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: I guess I wish I knew how to quit you,

1167
00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 3: isn't it.

1168
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 4: I don't take that as an insult. I think that

1169
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 4: means our show is very well rounded. We have all

1170
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: our angles.

1171
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: You were quoted as I have Barth and Jess. What

1172
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 3: more do I need?

1173
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: Alex actually Alex easy on the eyes, but of course

1174
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: also pragmatic and insightful.

1175
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 4: Critique.

1176
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: Crash critiques can be good.

1177
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 4: Who was that?

1178
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: How old are you?

1179
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: I don't do drugs, Nick, I'd watch your song. Chris,

1180
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: Chris looking to slide into the d. It's like six

1181
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 3: three we found on Twitter.

1182
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 7: Six six.

1183
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 3: You can handle himself, big can handle himself.

1184
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: A little aside here I mentioned the fan club register.

1185
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: I think was it on the last show or the

1186
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: show before? I can't remember, but he says, this is

1187
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: Zach in Chicago. I'm so glad you mentioned the Patriots

1188
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: fan club website last week's show. Being a Patriots fan

1189
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: in Chicago, it wasn't until I went to last year's

1190
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: Bear's Patriots game did I realize how big the Patriots

1191
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: fan base was here. And now, after hearing about the

1192
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: fan club website, my friends who are also Patriots fans

1193
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: and I are already planning on making trips to these

1194
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: bars during the season this year. Also, just to keep

1195
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: in mind, the Chicago pu fan base would not be

1196
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: opposed to the crew coming over this way to host

1197
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: a special episode from the Windy City when the Patriots

1198
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 1: come back to play the Bears in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Just no Jaws trivia please. Star Wars Yeah, Jaws No.

1200
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: Keep up the fantastic Wark and shout out to Evan

1201
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: Jedi was also my favorite Star Wars movie growing up.

1202
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's dozens of us.

1203
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 3: It's almost as big as the Chicago Patriots Fanklin.

1204
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: I actually love going to Chicago to go We got

1205
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: to go last year, right last year? Yeah, last year

1206
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 4: and we won and I we like that. That's one

1207
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: of my favorite cities. Like that. We had a great

1208
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: time in Chicago's a lot of fun.

1209
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: It's cavernous.

1210
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: I haven't been there a lot, but a couple of

1211
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: times that i've been that I've really enjoyed myself.

1212
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: It does remind me like it's like like Midwest Boston.

1213
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 4: Like it's it's kind of it's kind a similar kind

1214
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 4: of feel like that. It's fun.

1215
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1216
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: My old boss at the Herald was from New York.

1217
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: He was in like New York City, and he used

1218
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: to make fun of Boston and Chicago all the time.

1219
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Boston is like a New York suburb,

1220
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: and he would say, in Chicago's just a cowtown. It

1221
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: would make fun.

1222
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, they get a lot of tall

1223
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 1: buildings in Chicago.

1224
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, buildings, but they definitely and I.

1225
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: Guess city like the Chrysler building. I guess they had

1226
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: that huge crystal building that's New York shoot about.

1227
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: Tower.

1228
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 4: I don't think it's confused by little It was right

1229
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 4: down the street from our hotel, though I want but.

1230
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: I guess like that big fire in Chicago, you know,

1231
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: required a lot of rebuildings, so the buildings are newer

1232
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: than Boston, you know, most of them.

1233
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 4: Plus I just like feel the Michael Jordan greatness. When

1234
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 4: you're like walking, you're like wow, like this is where

1235
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 4: Jordan's played.

1236
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 6: I think about like NFL, NHL ninety one with like

1237
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 6: Jeremy Ronick and Nintendo Hockey game that was you had to.

1238
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 3: Be So you played NHL ninety one. I think it

1239
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 3: was ninety four. You played Chicago. Oh yeah, you didn't

1240
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: play Vancouver. Everybody plays Vancouver's Trevor Linda. What are we doing,

1241
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: Cliff Rooning?

1242
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 4: Is this on Sega?

1243
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1244
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: So here here's here's a good.

1245
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: You played the last time I played video.

1246
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely, here's a love discussion for an off off season program.

1247
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: Which city indoor town in the United States had the

1248
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: best TV shows associated with them?

1249
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 12: Oh?

1250
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 3: Boy?

1251
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: You know, so you guns say like Boston Cheers.

1252
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: You know, Cheers is an all time great But we'll

1253
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: do that. Probably it's probably.

1254
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: That Marinate Video York.

1255
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 8: That's good for fodder.

1256
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 7: Franz Seinfeld.

1257
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about Bob new Bark Chicago?

1258
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 8: Chicago?

1259
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: LA must have a lot, right, But I feel I

1260
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: feel like in l A they're just sort of generic.

1261
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 3: This is generic fake California city in California.

1262
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 4: I mean.

1263
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 8: Two and a half man, now does it being in

1264
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 8: that city? Have to be like a fundamental piece of

1265
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 8: the show because there's a lot of movies and shows

1266
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 8: that you don't realize you.

1267
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: Have to they have to say, like we're in you.

1268
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 4: Know, Austin's got Great Town is part of the.

1269
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: Show, Like like, well, there's a more in Minneapoli.

1270
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: That would probably be the best ever sitcom in Minneapolis.

1271
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 7: You're gonna go out and live on that one.

1272
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm all in.

1273
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 4: I feel like Boston is more of a movie like

1274
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 4: the Town.

1275
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: There's been some.

1276
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 8: Movies you don't realize what's the movie with. I think

1277
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 8: it's Ryan Reynolds and Sandra Bullock. It's supposed to be

1278
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 8: in Alaska. They filmed in a rockport. There's like a

1279
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 8: movie credit, tax credit or something here that a lot

1280
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 8: of people film movies here and you don't realize it.

1281
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: Okay, fun facts. Eric from Amherstburg, Canada says Eric's arrogance

1282
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: is hilarious. He says, the math is the math. Celtics

1283
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: are soft, Nerds will be nerds and suck at sports.

1284
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: Okay, defending NBA champions at sports suck at sports.

1285
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 7: Nerds a sports He.

1286
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: Saw the Revenge of the Nerds.

1287
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: Nerds, a lot of a lot of a Hall of

1288
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: Fame emails.

1289
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: Let's go to that. We spark some debate.

1290
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: That's good, so we'll get back to it. Let me

1291
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: go to the phones. Eight five five Pats five hundred

1292
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: is the hot line for a sponsor.

1293
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 7: How Matt Morale, Jersey Mikes, come on, let's go.

1294
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 8: Actually, but I tried the Jersey Mike's chicken salad sandwich

1295
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 8: and I'm going to review it in the newsletter.

1296
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 6: Okay, maybe put me down for your sandwich tomorrow.

1297
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know.

1298
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 3: Well, I already own no socks, so I just give

1299
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 3: no socks one.

1300
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 4: What's why?

1301
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 3: I bet him that the saltis will win the next

1302
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: four games. I watch the first one.

1303
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 4: You and Paul Pierce walking barefoot.

1304
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: Socks had a very very passionate uh review on the

1305
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: good side of the Jersey Mike's bowls.

1306
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: That's what I have to get them tomorrow.

1307
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 4: They are good.

1308
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: He really liked it. He said, it's the sandwich without

1309
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: the bread, so you don't feel like all you know,

1310
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that is what it is.

1311
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 4: It was perfect, you know, and you got to Chipotle

1312
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 4: and it's like the bowl is like the brito the tortilla, like, right,

1313
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 4: I like to get the.

1314
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 8: Bowl with the side. No, you get the side tortilla

1315
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 8: and then you have to and bowl.

1316
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 4: Or you get the chips and then you dip the chips.

1317
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 8: And you do all three of the ships.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like my Italian sandwich loose.

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00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 3: Like I want something holding it together, just some fluozy, right,

1320
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 3: loose one bite, It's got a little of everything, not

1321
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 3: you know, one giant bite of like a piece of salami.

1322
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's a good point. Then you're trying to

1323
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Speaker 1: like make sure you get meat with the other stuff

1324
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Speaker 1: you want to You have to wind vinegar and you

1325
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Speaker 1: have to make sure that.

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Speaker 3: I do have an irrational concern over that, Like am

1327
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: I putting too much on one fold? And now I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna I'm gonna be left without.

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Speaker 1: The stuff exactly exactly.

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Speaker 4: That's a good point.

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00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: I do think that because I'm I got.

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Speaker 6: A question if I get a turkey bowl, is it

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00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 6: weird if I like, can you put a squirre to

1334
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 6: mayo on top of that?

1335
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 7: Like nobody does that?

1336
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 3: Right?

1337
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: You can't put a male and then mix it around.

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00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, I have a weird thing with mayo though,

1339
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: What about like a Chipotle that's mayo. It's just flavored.

1341
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 7: You're right out, you know, right holes.

1342
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 3: In my so versatile the renaissances.

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Speaker 6: I just can't picture a bowl with like just like

1344
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 6: a squiggle of just white mayo on top of it.

1345
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. It just grosses me out.

1346
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 4: Who thinks like that?

1347
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Speaker 6: Like I want the mayo just spread nicely on the bun.

1348
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Speaker 6: I don't see it. I taste it, but too much

1349
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 6: mayo can run.

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Speaker 3: You don't want too much, too much mayo. You just

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Speaker 3: to touch on mayo. But you can't do it on

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Speaker 3: the salad.

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Speaker 6: This is on people seeing him eat that giant amount

1354
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 6: of mayo on your salad?

1355
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Speaker 3: Did you have that chicken that turkey?

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Speaker 2: Sub?

1357
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Speaker 3: Was that playing mic? And you can say yes because

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Speaker 3: they will never know it's smothered with mayo. And we're

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Speaker 3: not smothered, but just a little mayo. It's just a little,

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Speaker 3: you know, a little tang in there.

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Speaker 1: It's nice, all right. Cameron's in North Carolina? What's up? Cameron?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 10: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Y'all?

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01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: Hey?

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01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 10: I have two quick questions for you, the first one

1367
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 10: being how important do you think it is for trick

1368
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 10: made development to have two veteran quarterbacks that he's hats

1369
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 10: up far, such as Jacoby Brissette and Josh Dobbs, and

1370
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 10: just there get a case into being mentors and sharing

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01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 10: the same primary goal of just trying to win as

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Speaker 10: opposed to really compete. First spot, and the second one

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01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 10: being what the argument would be to have Matthew Slater

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Speaker 10: inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame, because if we're

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01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 10: talking about impact players, I understand he was a great

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01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 10: leader and long, very long tenured, but I don't really

1377
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 10: understand the argument to get him in to the Pro

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Speaker 10: or the Patriot's Hall of Fame. And I'll take it off.

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Speaker 1: There, thank you, all right, thanks Cameron.

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Speaker 4: I think he's probably the greatest special teams player of

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Speaker 4: all time. So Matthew, Yeah, in terms of covering kicks.

1382
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Speaker 7: Can we quantify that? Can we quantify that into wins?

1383
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: Can't?

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01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 4: You can't quantify it into wins necessarily. But like you know,

1385
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 4: if you throw on Matthew Slater gunner tape like some

1386
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 4: people do in this room every once in a while,

1387
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 4: like they they the amount of like dun the amount

1388
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 4: of like double and triple teams that he would see

1389
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: on like one punt was like insane, Like they they

1390
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 4: were literally layer the blocking scheme so that like you

1391
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 4: would get hit like seven times going down the field.

1392
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 4: I mean, well, like.

1393
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Speaker 1: What like why?

1394
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I like I'm being serious because you just.

1395
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: He literally tackling. He literally would not practice with the

1396
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: rest of the team. That's all he would do is

1397
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: work on that. That's all he would do.

1398
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's He's just one of the best

1399
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 4: to ever do it. I mean that's the argument getting downfield.

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Speaker 3: The first question that he had that Cameron had, I

1401
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 3: think is a good one. I don't know what the

1402
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 3: answer is, but you know, would you rather have and

1403
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 3: how beneficial do you think it is for Drake may

1404
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: to have veteran backup types as opposed to legit competition

1405
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 3: for a job, right, Yeah, And I think you can

1406
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 3: make a strong argument for both sides. I'm not sure

1407
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 3: what's more beneficial to Drake, because I think that would

1408
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: be in the eye of the beholder, whatever he feels

1409
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 3: is more beneficial at this.

1410
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 4: Point of his career. I like this approach a little

1411
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 4: bit better. Like if we're in year three and four

1412
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 4: and he hasn't taken that next step yet, and you

1413
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 4: want to try to push him a little bit. And

1414
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 4: that's one thing, but right now you're really just trying

1415
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: to get him off the ground and get it.

1416
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: I'll repeat. This is another Bill Parcells thing. If you

1417
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: have two quarterbacks, you don't have a quarterback. And I

1418
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: think that's true. If you don't have that guy and

1419
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: you have legitimate competition at the quarterback, then you don't

1420
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: have a quarterback.

1421
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 7: But I looked at it more as do you guys

1422
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 7: see value in.

1423
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: How you disagree with Bill Parcells.

1424
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: Bill Parcells said, if I don't have a guy who

1425
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 3: separates himself.

1426
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: No, No. His exact quote was, if you have two quarterbacks,

1427
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: you don't have a quarterback. Correct.

1428
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 3: That means you don't have a guy who separated himself.

1429
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 3: That's his point. I need some So if Drake Maye

1430
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: is the guy, right, there's nothing to worry about. Right,

1431
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 3: you can have competition.

1432
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: It's well, it's not really competition because he.

1433
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 3: Beats it, right, So that's why it's not that was

1434
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 3: almost a disaster.

1435
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: It's not competitive anymore because he already yourself.

1436
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 3: But he needs to win the competition, yes, right, So

1437
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 3: right now, Parcels is like ideal. This is why I

1438
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 3: think this. You can look at this from both sides,

1439
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 3: Like I agree with what Fred's talking about here, but

1440
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: I think we're saying the same thing in a different way.

1441
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: I think here we go.

1442
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 3: You if I like the idea of having a veteran,

1443
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: I think Brissett last year and Dobbs this year will

1444
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 3: be beneficial. I think Evan's point about maybe two or

1445
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 3: three years down the road, if he hasn't sort of

1446
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 3: gotten nudged, he might need someone a little bit younger.

1447
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 3: And you know.

1448
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 7: Thress Anthony Richardson more threatening.

1449
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 3: Is a good word to do it, to give him

1450
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 3: a kick. But I don't worry about like having two quarterbacks.

1451
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 3: I think that I have the guy. I think Drake

1452
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: May is my guy. But I don't think there's anything

1453
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: wrong with having a guy behind him who's younger as

1454
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: well as the veteran who wants to compete for the job.

1455
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 3: I think competition is good at all spots, and I'm

1456
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: confident if I'm the coach that Drake May wins that competition. Well,

1457
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 3: I don't have two quarterbacks. My problem of whom I playing.

1458
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 3: They're both so good you know. I that's what Parcels

1459
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 3: didn't want. Was like the fans saying the other guy

1460
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 3: should be playing like Mac Jones, Bailey Zappy, that's no

1461
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 3: good like ZAPPI was competition for Jones, but it was

1462
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 3: only a competition because Jones wasn't good enough. Do you

1463
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 3: see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, you don't want two quarterbacks?

1464
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I was thinking about it a little

1465
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 6: bit differently, just in the value of having a veteran

1466
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 6: quarterback with Drake still and do you see value.

1467
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 7: In someone experience? Do not necessarily like competing?

1468
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 6: Just hey kid, this is you know, we're playing in

1469
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 6: Green Bay this week and this is something I noticedable

1470
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 6: Or you know, they might throw this defensive coordinator this week,

1471
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 6: might throw this at you, those kind of things like

1472
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,479
Speaker 6: I don't know, I just I guess as.

1473
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 3: I get I want both.

1474
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just I see a little bit.

1475
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1476
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 6: There's part of me that just wants them to do

1477
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 6: it himself and get you know, like learn fro himself

1478
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 6: and not have to think that, oh I'm going to

1479
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 6: get I feel like we had this conversation during that year.

1480
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 3: If you if you progress to Evan's point. You know,

1481
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 3: in three years, let's say it goes the other way

1482
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 3: and he clearly just establishes himself. Now I don't need

1483
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 3: a veteran because he's the man. He doesn't need anybody

1484
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: to mentor now I can bring in young guys to

1485
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: develop behind him.

1486
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 6: Which was what like Brady like oh four oh five

1487
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 6: somewhere in there, and that that was when he no

1488
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 6: longer had the you know.

1489
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 3: The how long did did Hewards stay?

1490
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 4: Was a couple of years? Just a couple of felt

1491
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 4: like a good amount of time though.

1492
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 3: For a backup, because after he left, he really didn't

1493
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: have that like Castle then and now they brought in

1494
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 3: random guys, but they were just to appease.

1495
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: They brought hadn't even played in college.

1496
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah right, But like on once Heward left, you know,

1497
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: it was like Rohan Davey, like it was young guys

1498
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 3: that were developing, and then they would bring in veterans

1499
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 3: like Testa, Verdi and Flutey to you know, satisfied Belichick's ego. Right,

1500
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: which again these are things we can say now.

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Speaker 2: Say it's positive, real positive.

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01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 11: Everybody's excited, excited for a new opportunity, fresh start.

1538
01:08:55,640 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 15: So and how would you discrab the new coaching and

1539
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 15: like the impact that might be able on the new

1540
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 15: coaching has.

1541
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: Had on what's going on here?

1542
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 11: I would say it's it's a very uh, very high

1543
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 11: emphasis on connectivity, really setting foundation, learning each other, growing

1544
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 11: together and really establishing you know, their identity and things

1545
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 11: like that.

1546
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 3: So m s just find the connectivity, like how does that?

1547
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: How does that?

1548
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 2: Like how how do you c.

1549
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 11: Yeah, so that would be time learn each other's story

1550
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 11: a on and off the field, you know, and really

1551
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 11: just honing in on on each individual and the time

1552
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 11: we do have together and really learning.

1553
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 2: Each other, like I said, on and off the field.

1554
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 3: So there's so many changes for you got to believe

1555
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 3: some side of the multis off seat, but at the

1556
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 3: same position, you got pretty much stay fit course be

1557
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 3: real built of how important is you guys could be

1558
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 3: able to maybe set that tone of consistency of the fact.

1559
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 11: That going the twenty twenty five y uh, I'll say

1560
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 11: it's it's important for everybody. The standard is to stand

1561
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 11: there with us, but leadership has to come from every room,

1562
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 11: and so we just got to make sure what the

1563
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 11: standard is what it is in our room and we're

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01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 11: holding to that.

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01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 16: You've gotten much into like what your goals can look

1566
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 16: like in this deep pen tent.

1567
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: No, so what what was what the last few.

1568
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 11: Weeks felt like forret you guys, it's really just been

1569
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 11: setting the foundation, just learning, connecting, Like like I said earlier,

1570
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 11: that's been the biggest emphasis, not not really getting into

1571
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 11: the the roles.

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01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: And yet we just shout out to the identity in

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01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: the foundation help.

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01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 3: Challenge Junior's lescens for you just you know, bottle them

1575
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 3: PSI and pretty muchhore.

1576
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 14: How how tough this that?

1577
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 10: How much are you looking.

1578
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 3: Forward to this?

1579
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: Yous?

1580
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 11: I'm really looking forward to to this upcoming season, not

1581
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 11: really looking back, uh to last year kind of put

1582
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 11: in the back of my mind and really just looking

1583
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 11: forward to move moving on.

1584
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sorry, really a good are you, Rarether?

1585
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 4: You're the longest You and a couple of other guys

1586
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 4: are the longest tender guys on the team.

1587
01:10:59,760 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they've been telling me.

1589
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So what I mean, well, what's your reaction

1590
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 4: to that?

1591
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: I guess, uh happened fast, I would say.

1592
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 11: It.

1593
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been.

1594
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 11: It's been from my rookie year and now it's been

1595
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 11: it's been flash So it's it's really good.

1596
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 2: It makes me feel good.

1597
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 11: Just to be with the organization for that long and

1598
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 11: it just lets me know that m you know, as

1599
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 11: a as a leader, my role and you know, kind

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01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 11: of setting things and just being here in the organization.

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01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's important. So how does that change civil?

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01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 2: How you you yourself? Falking around? Stay? They they fall

1603
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: old heads, they're up there.

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01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 3: Nah.

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01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 11: It don't change much for me. Yeah, it don't really

1606
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 11: change much for me at all. I still have a

1607
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 11: job in the standard to uphold so and learning this

1608
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 11: have to be open and and really make sure that

1609
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 11: I'm aware and locked in on on everything news.

1610
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 10: The angle.

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: With that it's it's doing well. Yeah, it's doing well. Yeah.

1612
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 4: Uh well, a lot of the guys were leaders and

1613
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 4: captains on the team, aren't fact. Do do you see

1614
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 4: uh new leadership kind of emerging yet?

1615
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 11: I will say, uh, yes, but I I wouldn't get

1616
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 11: into like specifics of certain individuals.

1617
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 2: I think.

1618
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 11: Right now it's everybody's kind of expected to to, you know,

1619
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 11: carry themselves like a leader, and that's what it what

1620
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 11: it should be, you know. And so I would say yeah,

1621
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 11: but can't really get into specific so on like s

1622
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 11: certain guys. But it's definitely a point of emphasis.

1623
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 4: I mean, have you noticed you've been here now?

1624
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 2: Do you know what last year was like?

1625
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 4: From obviously?

1626
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 3: Do you?

1627
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 4: Is there a lot of change behind the scene you

1628
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 4: Do you notice Mike Verbo really put against in print

1629
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 4: on this program?

1630
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 2: I would say yes, he's definitely putting his imprint on

1631
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 2: the program.

1632
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 11: And and like I said earlier, he's really on and

1633
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 11: in on on connecting and learning us as individuals and

1634
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 11: and setting that.

1635
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: Foundation on and off the field. Like like I spoke about,

1636
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 2: so yeah.

1637
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 16: And what depends out to you?

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01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: But uh, coach Bookers coach Williams, who I guess had

1639
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: a lot of the same defensive coach you'd see when

1640
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 1: you after bench fellowship, you know, in Grado's hires a

1641
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: head coach.

1642
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 4: Now it's basically use staff.

1643
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 3: I'm not certain point what what took them like looking.

1644
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 11: Those gus, Uh, I would say, just uh, every day

1645
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 11: there there's a lot of energy and and we're really

1646
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,799
Speaker 11: focused on the small details.

1647
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 2: And so that really stands out to me and I

1648
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 2: and I'm appreciative of that. Yeah.

1649
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: Can you spend a lot of time watching the typeans

1650
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: defense and their safeties in particular?

1651
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: I would say, we we watch uh eh, all ball.

1652
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 11: You know it's not just them, We watch all ball,

1653
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 11: any any any good ball around the league that applies

1654
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 11: to us which we wanna play football, We'll watch it.

1655
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a detail. You just met it Like

1656
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: they're big on the little details. You know what what

1657
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: example alignment assignment?

1658
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 11: You know, eyes are consistent playing and play out, you know,

1659
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 11: knowing people's names and and things that may not seem.

1660
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 2: Like a big deal, just like little stuff like that.

1661
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: If we go over it, it's possible that we we

1662
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 2: need to know it.

1663
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 3: I would say, so as moom sat there, it's a

1664
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: whole new coaching stats specific defensive side of the ball,

1665
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 3: is it? I'm trying to play with toll Owans. How

1666
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 3: would you describe his coaching style? See some of my

1667
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 3: even media we have to talk to that much.

1668
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 15: Just how would you like describe him?

1669
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 10: And what's a what's that like?

1670
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 2: He's about his business?

1671
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 11: Uh, he treats his like pros And I would say

1672
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 11: he he has a a good dategy as well, you know,

1673
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 11: ready to work.

1674
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm excited to work with him.

1675
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 8: Coach Williams and the coaching staff on the defensive side

1676
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 8: and talked a lot about wanting this.

1677
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 16: Do you tends to be aggressive?

1678
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 8: Played aggressively and playing force and violence?

1679
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 4: How does that fit into your play style?

1680
01:14:59,240 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 10: Uh?

1681
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: I would say that's what I want to do as well.

1682
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: I would say that.

1683
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 11: I would say we aligned in that way. I want

1684
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,839
Speaker 11: to I want to be violent and you know, aggressive

1685
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 11: just like they want to be and so I would.

1686
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 2: Say it it fits in my play stuff pretty good. Yeah,

1687
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 2: were you two more questions?

1688
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 16: Guess how were you familiar with market SOPs and Craig

1689
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 16: Woodson before they were added to the room, And what'spend

1690
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 16: on getting to know those?

1691
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? I watched, Uh, I was aware of them.

1692
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 11: I watched the mom when we was in Vegas, and

1693
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 11: so I was definitely a word of me and having

1694
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 11: them in a room, I feel like an experience.

1695
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 2: Has been good.

1696
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 11: It's really early, but I can definitely tell smart smart

1697
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 11: ball players, really really smart ball players, and they take

1698
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:44,759
Speaker 11: it seriously.

1699
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: So I appreciate that.

1700
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 6: Do you work in your connectivity within the program for

1701
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 6: something you learned about coach Crabel for coach Williams if

1702
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 6: you didn't know.

1703
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 2: For uh, not a whole lot. I can really say,

1704
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: kind of keep it well, keep it with each other.

1705
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 11: But I would say they're very big on family, and yeah,

1706
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 11: I would say that's one thing that I picked up

1707
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 11: on to take it very seriously and that includes us,

1708
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 11: you know the building.

1709
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, thanks, appreciate you.

1710
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 14: And now great moments in.

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01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 2: History.

1712
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: No one was worth a big head.

1713
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 3: He was he was had also didn't wait till the

1714
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 3: break right as soon as the food arrived, he would

1715
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 3: just shut his microphone off, move it away, and start eating.

1716
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: But seriously, yeah, he'd be done before the break started up.

1717
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 15: He'd actually be good sentence in an argument with Fred

1718
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 15: and and if the producer would come in with the food,

1719
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:42,839
Speaker 15: he would stop.

1720
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 4: What he was doing it.

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01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1722
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 15: Yeah, he would be arguing, you know, passionately about something

1723
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 15: and it would just like drop everything and tread be like, oh,

1724
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 15: you can't.

1725
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: Even have like the producer go down because you know

1726
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: they'd have the media meal, so you know, just make

1727
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: us a plate. So he'd come back with like maybe

1728
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: six or seven sandwiches, and the moment he put it

1729
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: down to the table, they can't just bomb just jump

1730
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: on high metabolism.

1731
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 4: Guy h just always eating, always eating.

1732
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: But he has always eating, but always work out.

1733
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 4: Yeah sure yeah.

1734
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: If he ever slows down in his workout, he's gonna balloon.

1735
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: The rest of his body will catch up to his head.

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01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:25,000
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Speaker 3: So good, yeah, sounds good. Bit of breaking news, Fred,

1751
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what have we got? We have a history

1752
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 3: made today we do.

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Speaker 2: What's that that?

1754
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 3: There's been a new pope named new Pope, first ever

1755
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 3: from swamps, first close, first American. It's Bobby from doesn't

1756
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:29,839
Speaker 3: say where.

1757
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,919
Speaker 4: Cardinal provosts from Chicago, Illinois, first.

1758
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 3: Ever from the US, first ever American pope.

1759
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 4: We got a pope?

1760
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: Is he the.

1761
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 7: TikTok?

1762
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: Good for the pope? So we have a Chicago Pope.

1763
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: Chicago Pope sounds like one of those CBS series.

1764
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 7: I feel like Chicago Pope.

1765
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 8: I feel like Chicago Fire, Chicago med Chicago.

1766
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 3: Used to Chicago true thing, and that was that was

1767
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 3: a good little like together Chicago Pope, Chicago Poop.

1768
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: I felt like that, We'll see We'll see a million

1769
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: promos for it during super you know, during the football

1770
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 1: games on Sunday after the game.

1771
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was like one Pope murderer for like the

1772
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 6: first like thirty five years of my life. I feel like,

1773
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 6: and now we've had like three popes in the past,

1774
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 6: like I could just see it, you know, remember Pope

1775
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 6: John Paul.

1776
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 3: He gets into like Pope John Paul the second, follow

1777
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 3: Pope John Paul the first, so like within a month.

1778
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 3: So I didn't realize in my childhood. Fred probably he

1779
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 3: probably didn't have a favorite Pope then because he didn't

1780
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 3: know who was going to.

1781
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 1: Wear it, right, He goes right, Chicago Pope. You know,

1782
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of the I'm just thinking of like

1783
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: what the scenarios would be Chicago Pope tonight on Chicago

1784
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: You'll maybe take up my mind, you know.

1785
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,839
Speaker 7: Things like that rosary beads this that's like that's.

1786
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: Like when Rosary be He's a different kind of pope, right,

1787
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 1: He's a pope with an edge.

1788
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 7: This pope isn't sitting taking it sitting down anymore.

1789
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 3: You don't want this smoke. You don't want the smoke smoke,

1790
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 3: you want the white smoke. You want the white smoke.

1791
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: And black women are always hitting on him and he

1792
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: always has to say no that rope. You don't want

1793
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: to know.

1794
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, my grandmother's listening.

1795
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: Have nothing to do.

1796
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 6: The same thing as I'm flashing back to like La

1797
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 6: to a superhero, I'm flashing.

1798
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 7: My La days and something that the pis exactly I

1799
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 7: see it.

1800
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 3: Who could we get for this role?

1801
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 11: Like?

1802
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 4: Are we casting Charlie she.

1803
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,640
Speaker 1: I just thought Chicago Pope? No, it's got to be

1804
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: John Goodman, John good You guys are naming all.

1805
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 4: People Tom Selling Tom sell It, Yeah, I mean, is

1806
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 4: he's still doing Blue Bloods? Is that like in like

1807
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 4: season twenty it's over.

1808
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 3: They're going to start a Boston version with just Donnie.

1809
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 3: But he was one that had a bad reputation of like,

1810
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 3: don't you don't want to work with Tom Sellis? He

1811
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 3: was toughs. That's disappointing. What's I love Magnagnum, Yeah, thank

1812
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 3: you Magnum, p.

1813
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 1: I, Matt Mitch and Saratoga getting back to Hall of Fame.

1814
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: Quick hypothetical, say Adam Gutten this year, who do you

1815
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: think would have gotten next year? Gronk or Edelman? I

1816
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: would say Gronk by a thin margint f Yeah.

1817
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 3: I would agree. Yeah, but that would be that would

1818
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 3: be that someone would just be like I would feel

1819
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 3: bad to a third person pretty much, whoever it was.

1820
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 4: See I do. I would have done it together, but

1821
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 4: I know we can't do that apparently, But I just

1822
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 4: feel like those two, particularly going in together, would make

1823
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 4: a ton of sense, like they're like best friends.

1824
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 7: Then you might talk about doing a little bigger than

1825
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 7: just out there.

1826
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 3: If you do. Those guys sound coming down.

1827
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 4: I saw that creaking news and nothing I could do. No, Yeah,

1828
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:56,560
Speaker 4: that I don't know.

1829
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 3: I know.

1830
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 6: One more weird thing though I thought about with Adam

1831
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 6: is like he has a whole exhibit in the Hall

1832
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 6: of like the kicking thing, Like he's he's not in

1833
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 6: the hall, but like his kick is in the hall

1834
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 6: with the video board, you know, going there and attempted.

1835
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 3: From from the other snow game right, right, that's in

1836
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 3: really good shape.

1837
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 8: Maybe if he finally gets in, we can finally do

1838
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 8: your content ideas.

1839
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: I want to what's that idea?

1840
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 4: It's really good.

1841
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 7: It's like a hidden camera, like you know, ad inventary working.

1842
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 8: He's working the exhibit working.

1843
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 3: We put some dumb glasses on him in a little

1844
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 3: hall outfit and he's trying to teach Peo like a disguise. Yeah,

1845
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 3: he's like you know, and people like, who's this guy?

1846
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 4: They do that like well uncle Drew obviously Kyrie. But

1847
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 4: like I remember one Rinaldo like dressed up like in

1848
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 4: a disguise and he was just out on like the

1849
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 4: streets of uh, you know, Madrid probably, and he was

1850
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 4: just like absolutely roasting people with a soccer ball. And

1851
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 4: then like this kid literally started to cry as he

1852
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 4: was like revealing himself. A kid literally broke down in tears,

1853
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 4: he was so happy.

1854
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: There's one that goes around on your social media platforms, Alex.

1855
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: It's like it's the guy. It's in the gym and

1856
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: the guys in like this one piece overall with the

1857
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: broom and he's watching these you know, big guys left

1858
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, can I try and one of

1859
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: them anything lifting twice the way.

1860
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, didn't Eli do something like that recently out of.

1861
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 4: College as a walk on powers.

1862
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, something like that.

1863
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun, Kelly and Brooklyn writes, and watching Welker

1864
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: in his prime in a Patriot's uniform was incredible. Paul

1865
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: would agree. Week after week after week, Welker made big

1866
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: catch after big catch, third and long, Welker for the

1867
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 1: first Every time Welker created that position, Welker walked so

1868
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: Edelman could run. For those who were not born yet

1869
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: are still in diapers, they're always going to go Edelman.

1870
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 1: They just don't understand what those years were like watching Welker.

1871
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 1: He was a madman, a blue eyed lunatic.

1872
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 3: I like the blue islanitic.

1873
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 6: That's he was special, that's you know, And that's why

1874
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 6: I think you get lumped in as slot receivers and

1875
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 6: they do similar things. But I just I'll never forget

1876
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 6: the feeling of like, holy crap, this's Welker. Guy's awesome

1877
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 6: and he's tiny. He looks like a kid out there,

1878
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 6: but no one can cover him.

1879
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1880
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say Troy Brown was before Welker.

1881
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 3: Like as much as I like, I love Welko Yeah,

1882
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 3: Brown was a slot receiver who caught one hundred passes

1883
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,799
Speaker 3: and basically was the offense.

1884
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 4: They did change the role, you know, they the two

1885
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 4: thousand and seven Patriots, basically we're at the forefront of

1886
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 4: eleven personnel taking over the league and three receivers and

1887
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 4: playing like a true slot and you know, Welker was

1888
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 4: like the first true not maybe not the first, but

1889
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 4: like he's the one that kind of pioneered it a

1890
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 4: little bit and like to the emailer's.

1891
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 3: Points, Wayne Gebet, Yeah, and you know, really.

1892
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 4: Played inside all the time and was doing it at

1893
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 4: a really prolific level. And then like then defenses had

1894
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,600
Speaker 4: to you know, invent the slock corner more often and

1895
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 4: like use that and like it did really change. Even

1896
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 4: like Josh McDaniels deserves some credit for what they were

1897
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 4: able to do with schematically. With all that, like there's

1898
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 4: a case to be made that, you know, we play

1899
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 4: football now the way that it's played because of of

1900
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 4: Welker and the two thousand and seven Patriots.

1901
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

1902
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Wow.

1903
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 7: The Welker land in Washington Is that where he is now.

1904
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: Coaching? Yeah? Yeah, Kylon Pembroke, I personally dislike how the

1905
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: Patriots do their Hall of Fame selection. Here's how I'd

1906
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: fix it. One, have five players on the ballot, not three. Two,

1907
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: allow multiple players to be selected.

1908
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 3: Three.

1909
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: The way players are selected is by having a certain

1910
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 1: vote threshold that the player has to meet to get in. Example,

1911
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: they need five thousand votes to get in. Four. If

1912
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: no player meets the threshold, no one gets in. Yeah.

1913
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 3: I don't hate it. I don't hate it.

1914
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: And that's kind of more like I know the Pro

1915
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame is not a fan vote, but

1916
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: that's you have to get.

1917
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 3: A threshold of votes, right, I don't hate the threshold.

1918
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 3: I got what he was getting at there. Yea, How

1919
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 3: hard was it for you guys when you're putting this

1920
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 3: all together to figure out how you wanted.

1921
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 2: To do the voting?

1922
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I had anything to do

1923
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: with it.

1924
01:25:55,240 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 3: You didn't started. We were just this is how we're

1925
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:04,919
Speaker 3: doing it. And then people expressed reticence and were summarily

1926
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 3: dismissed and ignored.

1927
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: But I think overall it works. Yeah, nobody who has

1928
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: been nominated. I mean it's taken time, but they will

1929
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: eventually get in.

1930
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 3: I disagree.

1931
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 1: Who are we missing?

1932
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 3: There are guys that haven't been nominated that haven't.

1933
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 1: No, I think eventually they will get in. That's what

1934
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Oh, well, we can just say I think

1935
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: Welker is eventually going to get You have a lot.

1936
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 3: More faith in that than I do.

1937
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: I guess I do.

1938
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 3: Like I think there are going to be guys that

1939
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 3: aren't going to get in, or they're going to get

1940
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 3: in in twenty years, and then what good is that?

1941
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: Well isn't that the same with the Pro Football Hall

1942
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: of It?

1943
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 3: Yes, there's flaws with that too.

1944
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: Right, So there's no perfect thing. I don't think that

1945
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: you can make it perfect. What's the perfect way for you?

1946
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 3: I don't know what the perfect way is, but lining

1947
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 3: them up one at a time is, in my opinion,

1948
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 3: the worst way to do it.

1949
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 4: I think this.

1950
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 3: So what this emailer I think has a better You

1951
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 3: think had away?

1952
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know.

1953
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 3: I just I think, like, not everybody gets in, but

1954
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 3: if there's a lot of worthy candidates at once, they

1955
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 3: should go.

1956
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: In all together.

1957
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 2: Sure.

1958
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 1: Also, last year just then you're gonna run.

1959
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 3: Out, No, you're not.

1960
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 8: Last year just created a speed bump in the system

1961
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 8: kind of where if you knew Tom was going in

1962
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 8: no matter what, and you're waiving the four year period.

1963
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 8: Maybe still have the vote for everyone else because time's

1964
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 8: going in any ways, right, I think.

1965
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: That screwed us up last year.

1966
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Brady in June and then.

1967
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 8: Like you're still has nothing to do with it and

1968
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 8: can go in you would ineligible, and then you're putting in.

1969
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 8: And that's kind of poetic to put VINETII and Tom

1970
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 8: Brady in together, especially if Tom's just a shoe in.

1971
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there I mean, I do like the idea of, yeah,

1972
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 3: there's gonna be years where you don't have one. Yeah,

1973
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: and that's unfortunate, but that could happen, But there also

1974
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 3: could be usually have three or four. You know, if

1975
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 3: if you have a ballot like this year, my guess

1976
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 3: is you would have gotten three guys in because you

1977
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 3: have three over the top worthy candidates. But that won't

1978
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 3: always be the case. That's so that's the only fear

1979
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 3: is is you get to a point where you're like,

1980
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: here's the three. But I just want to get to

1981
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 3: the point where people can sort of enjoy the experience

1982
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 3: of the recognition and not kind of like Bill Parcells

1983
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 3: like right now is what mid eighties yeah, you know, yeah,

1984
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 3: it's great, but it would have been better for him

1985
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 3: if it was ten years ago, you know. And that's

1986
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 3: just an example. There could be some players that by

1987
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 3: the time they get in, going one at a time,

1988
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 3: won't be able.

1989
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:52,759
Speaker 4: To enjoy it. Well then Leon Gray, right, yeah.

1990
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 3: But that was you know, yeah, he passed early, right,

1991
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 3: I mean.

1992
01:28:58,640 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: We didn't have this back then.

1993
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 4: You know, it's a long time ago.

1994
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 1: Uh, comel from Georgia. I know the Hall of Fame

1995
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 1: is mostly about players, but what about coaches? Bill Belichick

1996
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming Josh McDaniels will get in. Do we

1997
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: see any other coaches getting it?

1998
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I wouldn't make the last assumption.

1999
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean Dante's in, and then Bill will

2000
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 4: get in when.

2001
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 3: He's Yeah, Bill, Bill's automatic.

2002
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 6: We've talked a little bit about Chuck Fairbanks and you

2003
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 6: know his worthiness, especially now with Parcels going in.

2004
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 3: I think Chuck Fairbanks is a strong candidate. I've argued

2005
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: on his on these behalf a couple of times. He's

2006
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 3: been on the ballot. He's a guy who has been

2007
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 3: on the ballot and he will not ever get in.

2008
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 3: I unless he's put in by a committee, separate committee.

2009
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 3: I'm never going to get voted in. Yeah, that's past

2010
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 3: Ray very not probably not. I mean that's never going

2011
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 3: to get voted in. Should I would say yes on

2012
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 3: Fairbanks probably know on Belly, but for the same reasons

2013
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 3: that see like in my view, like Fairbanks kind of

2014
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 3: made the Berry teams. That's why your Fairbanks extra credit.

2015
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 3: But there's no like decisions who's in who's out there.

2016
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 3: That's where there's no set way. That's all individual. Like

2017
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 3: Fred and I always argue we like a smaller hall.

2018
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 3: That's probably why Fred you push back on the multiples

2019
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 3: in a year because you like smaller.

2020
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I just could you ever imagine that happening

2021
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 6: though with the committee where you just you guys talk

2022
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 6: about people and you just say, I don't think we

2023
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 6: really have somebody.

2024
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: Not for the near future.

2025
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 3: Based on the eleven or twelve nominations we get every

2026
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,600
Speaker 3: single year. The problem the last three or four of

2027
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 3: them would stun you. First of all, they would make

2028
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 3: you go to the media guy Devan to figure out

2029
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 3: who these guys even were. But old school people they're not,

2030
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 3: I know, is.

2031
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: You know, see the system we have would be fine

2032
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: within the Jets because they'd be struggling somebody.

2033
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Nope, we can't put them in every year.

2034
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 4: I do feel like some of those older guys though,

2035
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,839
Speaker 4: like Chuck Fairbanks, like now that my generation is starting

2036
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 4: to realize that you don't just win Super Bowls every year,

2037
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 4: like some of those guys, Like I don't know if

2038
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 4: we would vote for them necessarily, but like yeah, but

2039
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 4: like I think you start to fred one of those Yeah.

2040
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 4: Like you know, we were talking yesterday on Catch twenty

2041
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 4: two about some of like you know, not just John Hannah,

2042
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 4: but like Stanley Morgan and Mike Haynes and Andre Tippitt

2043
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 4: and like, well now it's like, well, yeah, they could

2044
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 4: probably use it. Leon gray Or and Andre tippittt liked

2045
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 4: when the Dynasty was rolling, it was like whatever, right,

2046
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 4: But like now I feel like there's a maybe a

2047
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 4: little bit more appreciation for like a fair Banks.

2048
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2049
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

2050
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,759
Speaker 1: Dave Boston, Dave Writes, and Evan and Barth spoke about

2051
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 1: retired numbers yesterday, mentioning that twelve and fifty six should

2052
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,640
Speaker 1: never be issued again. Evan also mentioned eighty seven not

2053
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: being issued again. I know fifty seven has not been

2054
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 1: issued since Steve Nelson retired, would you all be willing

2055
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: to issue fifty seven again? Absolutely?

2056
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 3: Is fifty seven not retired?

2057
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it is.

2058
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 3: Why hasn't it been issue?

2059
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2060
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 8: I don't know.

2061
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 4: I have the double check on if it has or

2062
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 4: hasn't should be, but the only.

2063
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,839
Speaker 1: So that you can't retire numbers in football.

2064
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 4: There's a lot of retired numbers talk because of Abuel

2065
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 4: Carter trying to take Lawrence Taylor toever so that that's

2066
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 4: come up, and I've seen I've seen some people this

2067
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 4: is kind of what sparked it. I've seen a lot

2068
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,759
Speaker 4: of people have the take of being anti retired numbers altogether,

2069
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 4: like we shouldn't retire any numbers and.

2070
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 1: It should be just like so special. Yeah, it should

2071
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: be like Tom Brady eighty and then no other regard.

2072
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 4: Well that was just my only point. Like these people

2073
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 4: were like no retired numbers at all. It's like, I'm sorry,

2074
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 4: but like no one's wearing twelve again, Like that's not happening.

2075
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 4: Like I don't care what if you think that you know,

2076
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 4: whoever else you know that's up there that probably shouldn't

2077
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 4: be up there. To some people, like whatever, but like

2078
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 4: twelve is like that's different.

2079
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 1: But the problem with football is unless you get into

2080
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: start starting getting into triple digits or decimals, you always

2081
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: need at least sixty or somewdd numbers available. You start

2082
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 1: retiring all these numbers and you're gonna run out.

2083
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 3: So according to Wikipedia, which is a great source, Steve

2084
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 3: Nelson's number is retired.

2085
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: It is retired.

2086
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 3: So it's twelve for Brady obviously, twenty for Gino, forty

2087
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 3: for Mike Haynes, fifty seven for Steve Nelson, seventy three

2088
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 3: for John Hannah, seventy eight for Bruce Armstrong, seventy nine

2089
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 3: for Jim Lee Hunt, and eighty nine for Bob d

2090
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 3: It's a funny story about the Bruce Armstrong one.

2091
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you see before when the Sullivan's here,

2092
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 1: they started retiring these numbers and it was premature. Yeah,

2093
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: like these guys shouldn't have their numbers retire.

2094
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 3: I would say that the defensive guys d I mean,

2095
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 3: Steve Nelson had a worthy of conversation.

2096
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: It was a great pay.

2097
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 3: He was a great player, Hall of.

2098
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,959
Speaker 1: Famer, no doubt, But you shouldn't have a retired number.

2099
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 3: Like under your guys. Yes, you're right, like guys shouldn't

2100
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 3: have retired numbers, right because it's football, right. But if

2101
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 3: you're going to talk about retiring numbers, he's in the conversation. Okay,

2102
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 3: that's all I would say. I'm I signed more with.

2103
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 8: Fred more so than like a Gronk who many to me,

2104
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 8: it's twelve greatest.

2105
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 3: Would would be the only number I would have.

2106
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 1: You've got the Hall of Fame. Retired numbers is a

2107
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 1: step above that.

2108
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think twelve and seventy three for

2109
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 4: the Patriots.

2110
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 3: Have to be I mean, I could, I could listen

2111
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 3: to that argument, but I would just say twelve.

2112
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like twelve.

2113
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 3: It's everything. It's the accolades, individual, it's the titles, it's

2114
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 3: the team achieved and everything that goes with it.

2115
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 6: To me, seeing these numbers still in circulation, I'll use

2116
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 6: fifty as an example for obvious uses, but it just

2117
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 6: it brings back memories of those other players and you

2118
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 6: know those that fifty six or you know, just throwing

2119
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 6: out you don't see it anymore, you kind of forget.

2120
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 6: It would be nice if he brought them back, and

2121
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 6: then maybe the player who wears that number has some

2122
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 6: kind of connection to the players who have worn it before, Like, yeah.

2123
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 8: It was nice. Yeah, he just tweeted about is it

2124
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 8: Henderson wearing thirty two?

2125
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, just like running back.

2126
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 8: Cool to see, like he's not salty about it. I

2127
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 8: think Devin's realistic in the fact that he's probably not

2128
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 8: going to get his number retired. And I don't know,

2129
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 8: it's cool even if it's like it's a defensive player

2130
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 8: and an offensive player, but to just have some sort

2131
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 8: of connection to that new generation.

2132
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 3: Even made a joke out of it, and it'd be

2133
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,959
Speaker 3: good to see someone with some speed. God number.

2134
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 4: It was two pointing to get fishing.

2135
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 8: We're fishing.

2136
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 4: Actually probably I think he ran a faster forty times

2137
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 4: than Henderson did too, but like he was fast. We

2138
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 4: were also talking about, you know, in college like well, well,

2139
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 4: Campbell obviously had the seven patch and the number seven

2140
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 4: and eighteen at LSU. Like I think it would be

2141
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 4: cool if like we had that a little bit in

2142
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 4: the NFL, where like certain Jersey numbers were like like

2143
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 4: fifty five at USC yeah yeah, or like you know,

2144
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 4: the one we talked about was, you know, twenty four

2145
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 4: is like your star corner, you know, where's twenty four?

2146
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 4: Because of Tai Law and Grievous and Gilmour all were

2147
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:10,679
Speaker 4: twenty four.

2148
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 8: So soccer ten is you're playing right, right, you know, like.

2149
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 4: The numbers like that. You know, maybe like fifty four

2150
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,560
Speaker 4: is like the line like the mic starting mic, you know,

2151
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 4: is fifty four. Obviously you'd have to earn it, like

2152
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 4: or not just handing it out like it's nothing. But

2153
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 4: you know, like at this point, like I feel like

2154
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 4: Gonzo would like probably have what it would you could say,

2155
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 4: would earn twenty Do you.

2156
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 1: Think players would think about that? Because players have their

2157
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: they come in with their own affinity number, right.

2158
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 4: I think that's like they have a brand that's that's

2159
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 4: obviously like the pushback on it.

2160
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: But like agree with seven.

2161
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 4: I had the mystique though, as it does in college,

2162
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 4: Like I feel like they would go for it.

2163
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 8: I agree with Evan, like Gonzo might be a different

2164
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 8: case because like again like branding like the zero and

2165
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 8: the zo, like it makes sense and it's kind of

2166
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 8: natural for him to be wearing the zero. But if

2167
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 8: you're coming into a team and you know that's the history,

2168
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 8: that's the tradition, or it's a situation like a ten

2169
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 8: in soccer, Like you want to wear that for that reason?

2170
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 7: So what's the ten thing in soccer?

2171
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 4: Top play maker?

2172
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2173
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 4: Nine is the top goal scorer usually like pure goal scorer.

2174
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 1: Not knowing, Yeah, David says, I'm also looking forward to

2175
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: seeing the rival jerseys. Any idea when images will be available?

2176
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: I think in the summer they might be releasing it.

2177
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the summer, Yeah, around training camp.

2178
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. And finally I would love to see throwbacks this

2179
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 1: year be red pants with the white jersey. I think

2180
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:39,719
Speaker 1: those are sharp.

2181
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 3: They are sharp.

2182
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 7: That's Paul's favorite, correct.

2183
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. I liked the white with the red in the

2184
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 3: late seventies. There's a lot of color in the league.

2185
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 3: Then looks good, good stuff.

2186
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't know we've had this discussion before. I just

2187
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: know back then people thought our uniforms were stupid, and

2188
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 1: now they're Oh, I love those, don't it.

2189
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 3: Don't confuse the logo with the uniform. It's not the

2190
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 3: same thing.

2191
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: People.

2192
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, people didn't like the logo, they like the pat

2193
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 4: Patriot weren't even alive when they actually wore them regularly.

2194
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,800
Speaker 3: So this is but I mean, do you have to

2195
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 3: be alive to look at something and say do.

2196
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 2: You like that or do you like this?

2197
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying like people were, so they tried

2198
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 1: to change it. I told you is one of them.

2199
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 3: Eric is a he's like everything else with Eric. He's

2200
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 3: an obnoxious purist.

2201
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 2: But they were.

2202
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 3: They had a contest in the late seventies. They were

2203
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 3: going to change the logo and the new one that

2204
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 3: they had designed got booed out of the stadium because

2205
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 3: it was terrible. Right, They loved it because because they

2206
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 3: liked the pat Patriot.

2207
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 1: And the alternative wasn't better. I'm telling you I was

2208
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: a season.

2209
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 3: But you can say the alternative wasn't better. That means

2210
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 3: that the pat Patriot was better.

2211
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 1: I know, but they it sucked. The other one sucked worse.

2212
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 3: Okay. I don't think a lot of people felt like that.

2213
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:06,560
Speaker 3: I thought it was just an average.

2214
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 1: People they said. They said it looked like a guy

2215
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: taking a dumb I said, I said that all the time.

2216
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 3: He's wearing he's spiking the ball.

2217
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: That's fine, but that's our problem is that our mascot

2218
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,719
Speaker 1: is a human being. That's our problem.

2219
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 4: You don't Pat Patriot.

2220
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 1: You know, if you're going to be if you're going

2221
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: to be a human being mascot. It's got to be

2222
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 1: like a pirate, you know, it's got to be like

2223
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 1: a character, fictional character. Ours is a minute man, you know,

2224
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 1: which is fine.

2225
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 4: But like you know, said, like Lucky's pretty cool.

2226
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:44,559
Speaker 1: Well I don't even like Lucky. I don't like Lucky either.

2227
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 4: Oh, I just feel like that's awful.

2228
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 7: That's the one that somebody, somebody in MS team put

2229
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 7: it together.

2230
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 3: You don't see the comparisons. I see where they were

2231
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 3: eventually change everybody, we get this. My one there is

2232
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 3: the one of the time, Come on now is much better,

2233
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 3: but it's it's based on the Elvis. Yeah, but the.

2234
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: Elves is much better than that.

2235
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 3: That's terrible. They're both terrible. But they literally got booed

2236
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 3: out like they had a fan vote, like why they did,

2237
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:17,520
Speaker 3: and that's how it was the game against.

2238
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 4: Me that looks like it was awful. School kid did

2239
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 4: know that I'm not arguing on behalf on behalf.

2240
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 3: Of this logo, that that logo was terrible, the one

2241
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 3: that they tried, and people literally started chanting, we want

2242
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 3: the old ones.

2243
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 7: Just nostalgia, right, like that's what people love. I think

2244
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 7: they didn't love it, but now that's.

2245
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 2: It is what it was.

2246
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:40,799
Speaker 1: That's let's see Claire Wrights and hello everybody.

2247
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 3: Liver Marina girl, She.

2248
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 1: Says, I'm with Paul and Deuce. Too many numbers are retired.

2249
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 1: You shouldn't see anyone in twelve ever again. But put

2250
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:53,639
Speaker 1: the rest back in circulation. It's more fun. Oh except

2251
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 1: eighty seven.

2252
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 3: That's not of course, Claire, she needs her tight end number. Yeah,

2253
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:02,720
Speaker 3: I just feel there's probably too many numbers retired. I'm

2254
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:03,640
Speaker 3: with I'm with Fred on that.

2255
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 1: Tyler from Georgia says Chicago Pope should be played by

2256
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 1: Dan Ackroyd and instead of a sitcom, it should be

2257
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: the plot of Blues Brothers three.

2258
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 3: We really we haven't nailed the line of disrespect of

2259
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 3: Chicago Pope. No religion?

2260
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 7: Well are you? Are you confirmed in the Catholic Church?

2261
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 1: Bull? I am too. I'm communion James Pettigrew.

2262
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 3: After first communion I did.

2263
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 1: I was allowed.

2264
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:40,560
Speaker 8: It started to interfere with basketball and SOCCERD you just

2265
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 8: disagree I'm not doing that. No, I actually didn't mind

2266
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 8: it at all. It was more my mom like lugging

2267
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 8: me to soccer, to dance, to gymnastics, to basketball, and

2268
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 8: also her and my grandmother, like, I think it was part.

2269
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 8: It was part my mom rebelling against her mother taking me.

2270
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 8: But I never made my confirmation, So I can't get

2271
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:03,480
Speaker 8: married in a Catholic.

2272
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 3: Two children in the same exact. They both received communion

2273
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 3: and I did the same thing. That was just too

2274
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 3: many extracurriculars. But it was not rebelling against my mother.

2275
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 7: She's still mad about it.

2276
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 3: It's fear that someday she's going to wake up and say, hey,

2277
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 3: why were they not confirmed. I don't think she's really

2278
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 3: thought about it.

2279
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't get married in church.

2280
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 1: I did. I did all this stuff, but in I

2281
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 1: think junior in high school, I told my mother I'm

2282
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 1: not going to church anymore, and she's like, oh, they

2283
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: usually don't do that until college.

2284
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 3: I love the role playing.

2285
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 1: That was it. I was done. I'm done with it.

2286
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 7: I was Eastern mass out in California.

2287
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,799
Speaker 3: My sister was visiting. Were trying to be good Catholic?

2288
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 3: Oh really, you didn't want grand kids?

2289
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:48,520
Speaker 4: Pretty pretty pretty different directions.

2290
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 3: And now you work for the Flyers. When I was in.

2291
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 1: When I was when I was in Catholic school third grade,

2292
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 1: they taught us that you had the They taught us

2293
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: that you have the same chance of going to heaven

2294
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 1: as putting an elephant through the eye of a needle, right,

2295
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 1: but priests have a they're closer, they have a closer

2296
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: connection to God. So I thought, okay, I want to

2297
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 1: go to heaven a maximum, I got no shot at it,

2298
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 1: so I better be a priest. So I told the

2299
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 1: nuns that okay, I want to be a priest.

2300
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 3: So like, oh, you're child.

2301
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I.

2302
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 3: Was a bad like what you're spontaneously combusted like I wasn't.

2303
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 3: I was a person who got in trouble a lot.

2304
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 3: So this is Chicago.

2305
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:34,520
Speaker 8: Streets of Chicago.

2306
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 1: So they so they would hold this against me. You know,

2307
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 1: you want to be a priest, but you're you're misbehaving,

2308
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So one day father Sister Berkman sat me,

2309
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 1: stood me up in front of the class, and she

2310
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:49,600
Speaker 1: had these color pictures of a priest performing mass and

2311
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 1: she said, this is in front of the class. She

2312
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 1: said to me, do you want these? And I'm like, yeah,

2313
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 1: I'll take them. She goes, all right, well you have

2314
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 1: to promise from now on you'll be good. And I'm like, no,

2315
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 1: I can't do that, Like I figured if I did that,

2316
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 1: and then I'd be lying, like how can like a

2317
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 1: fifth grade kid or whatever grade it was promised to

2318
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 1: be good for the rest of their lives. So I said, no,

2319
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 1: woman of God level. She freaks out, letter letter to

2320
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 1: my parents, the whole man.

2321
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what we got. So we got Chicago.

2322
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:23,680
Speaker 6: Pope is the eight o'clock hour, and then at nine

2323
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 6: o'clock comes Father Fred a little lighter.

2324
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 9: You know.

2325
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 1: Father Fred is one of the characters I was going

2326
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: to give you. And it was like, there's like a

2327
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 1: sister Susan and she's hot, but she's like she's the

2328
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 1: forbidden fruit, like he can't have her, but all the

2329
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 1: guys want her.

2330
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 3: Sister Kate was really.

2331
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 2: Right.

2332
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 3: I think we got Wednesdays, you know, Catholic Wednesdays on NBC.

2333
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 1: We need to workshop Fred. He did things a little different.

2334
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 4: Premiere on the.

2335
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 8: First day, elent right, work not Tuesday, make more sense.

2336
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 3: Come in on Friday and he's like he's got like

2337
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 3: a roast.

2338
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 1: In Australia Saturday.

2339
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 7: Who oh, Father Fred.

2340
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 1: College hot.

2341
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 3: We're all we're all going to die except me, My God,

2342
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 3: give me my God.

2343
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 1: And then he's got the rabbi friend and he's like

2344
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: Jackie Mason, you appreciate than you can all.

2345
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 4: Be friends.

2346
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 1: To heaven.

2347
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 4: That I do because I mean there's some pretty fantaus times.

2348
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 1: I love.

2349
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,600
Speaker 3: Meet up with the Jewish delikind Like that's when you

2350
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:58,759
Speaker 3: know Fred has his condition.

2351
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 4: I mean, why don't we have to be so stereotypical?

2352
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 4: Why do you have to talk like this?

2353
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 1: Look it ups, we're walking chalk telling. Everybody makes a joke,

2354
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 1: all right, good stuff. James Pettig were the most interesting

2355
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 1: Patriots fan in the world. He says, take the vote

2356
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 1: out of the fans hands. I used to spend hours

2357
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 1: locked in the toilet making prank phone calls to Comcast

2358
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 1: of steam age, and I'm considered a culture Patriots fan.

2359
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 1: No one over fifty is voting online for anything.

2360
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 8: Really, you should not be on the toilet longer than

2361
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 8: ten minutes.

2362
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm over fifty, I vote for online.

2363
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 8: This is a it's a significant increase in your risk

2364
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 8: for correctal cancer. What being on the toilet longer than

2365
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 8: ten minutes?

2366
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 12: Just playing on your phone, it's a it's are like

2367
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 12: the phone is the problem because of the fumes.

2368
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 3: Like why the phone.

2369
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 8: Maybe it has something to do with the blood rushing

2370
01:46:58,200 --> 01:46:58,839
Speaker 8: to your butthole.

2371
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 15: It could be, well, you're not standing there.

2372
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 8: Playing on the exposure from the back people from having

2373
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 8: to time Cancerson, this is not one of the better segments.

2374
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:18,760
Speaker 3: No, I's usually I'm like, she knows exactly this one.

2375
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 1: She's like, there the blood rushing near your butthole.

2376
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 3: Gives me much power too soon, that's what happened. Now,

2377
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 3: she's got to look it up.

2378
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 8: To look it up, I know, I don't know if

2379
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 8: I want to know then of it over here?

2380
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 3: Oh boy, off season that Tommy Mallick guys five eleven.

2381
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're making a really big deal of Tommy below

2382
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 4: right now. I'm not really sure why nobody knows what

2383
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 4: you're talking about Good Morning Football for like all day.

2384
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:54,679
Speaker 3: I feel like you just runs.

2385
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 1: It's the same show, right, It's no Good Afternoon Football, Right,

2386
01:47:58,240 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 1: it's a two hour show that they've.

2387
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 4: Been old bald, but still I've seen him. It's a

2388
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 4: two hour show, and I think one hundred and fifty minutes.

2389
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 11: Of it been.

2390
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 2: Longer.

2391
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 3: Thanes, I can't talk about.

2392
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 4: Chicago last night, trying to fix the Celtics. I'm sorry, I.

2393
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 1: Think now in Portland, Maine. I take exception with Alex

2394
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 1: saying Slater is just a special teamer. The person who

2395
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 1: emailed in, I think he is one of, if not

2396
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 1: the greatest special team or in NFL history, and certainly

2397
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 1: in Patriots history. He deserves it also Patriots and Nick

2398
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 1: fan go rout for the Jets. Bozo oh.

2399
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 8: I meant that in terms of like he plays special teams,

2400
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 8: not he's just a special teamer.

2401
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 4: I think that we're talking about and I don't think

2402
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 4: they are talking about you.

2403
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 8: Because he said he took exception with what Alex said.

2404
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 4: I thought that there was an Alex who was an emailery.

2405
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 4: I know you didn't say it like that.

2406
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 8: Slayers biggest fan.

2407
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was still cracking me up.

2408
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 6: The discussion where we're like Pop Douglas, he's one of

2409
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 6: Drake May's weapons, but he's not a weapon.

2410
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 2: Right.

2411
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 3: That's it. That's a nism. It's one of the few

2412
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 3: things that I actually use that he brought to the

2413
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 3: table consistently. You know, there's a difference between a guy

2414
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 3: who gets gets ten sacks in a ten sack guy.

2415
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.

2416
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 3: That's how I believe, that's how it originated with Mark

2417
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 3: Anderson is a guy who had ten sacks, but he's

2418
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 3: not necessarily a ten sack guy.

2419
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 4: That's fair, I mean, not in that case.

2420
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 3: That but that's how we use it, you know. Like

2421
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 3: it's like when you say a lot of times when

2422
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 3: you watch a receiver who runs a four to two,

2423
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 3: but he doesn't play to that. There's a differ between

2424
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 3: a four to two.

2425
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 1: Guy and.

2426
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 7: Taekwon runs a four two, but he's not a four.

2427
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 3: Hill is a four to two guy, but he might

2428
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 3: not run a four to two anymore, do you know

2429
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 3: what I'm saying? Like his play speed is clearly faster

2430
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 3: than everybody else.

2431
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 4: There was a lot of guys like that in this

2432
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 4: draft that ran a lot faster than I thought they would,

2433
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:00,280
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, not not pas in the

2434
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:04,599
Speaker 4: eye test, no place speed, place speed over time speed

2435
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 4: all day.

2436
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 1: So James Petty also brings up another point. We're talking

2437
01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 1: about retired numbers and how that's the pinnacle, then what

2438
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 1: is the statue.

2439
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 4: Higher pinnacle that's even the high.

2440
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not a big statue.

2441
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 7: We're still doing that Brady statue.

2442
01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 1: It's got to line up, you know. We'll see when

2443
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 1: the schedule comes out. If we have what the Fox

2444
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 1: games are, maybe we can line that up. It's because

2445
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 1: I kind of think he needs to be here when

2446
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 1: you do it, right, Yeah, that's what.

2447
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 4: They did, Like when they revealed the Rocky statue. That's

2448
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 4: exactly what you can't just like have Rocky Nott there.

2449
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 6: He don't let Culver Lank show up and hopefully down

2450
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 6: days doesn't his motorcycle buy and throw his helmet at

2451
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 6: the statue.

2452
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because he's angry because you old man ain't

2453
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 4: got no hot. Well he died. I'll just recreating the

2454
01:50:58,840 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 4: sound of.

2455
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 1: Jack and and Ava.

2456
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 4: That's a different movie.

2457
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, different movie. That's four Jack and and Hitting on

2458
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 1: another subject we were talking about, it says I lived

2459
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 1: in Chicago for nearly a decade, so I speak with

2460
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,719
Speaker 1: credibility when I say that Chicago is similar to Boston

2461
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 1: in two significant ways. First, both Chicago and Boston have

2462
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:28,640
Speaker 1: large Irish communities that have a long history involvement in

2463
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:36,600
Speaker 1: city politics and corruption. Second, second, like Boston, Chicago is

2464
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:39,560
Speaker 1: home to two of the nation's most distinguished universities, the

2465
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: University of Chicago and Northwestern I am not presuming to

2466
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 1: say that those schools are equal to Harvard and MIT.

2467
01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

2468
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,600
Speaker 3: Well, Megan might disagree, but yeah, I would say they

2469
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 3: are excellent schools. But I just would say that Boston

2470
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 3: has much more than just Harvard and.

2471
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 1: MIT Northeastern to name one.

2472
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 3: I mean, right, a lot more than just that.

2473
01:51:57,840 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 4: I just felt like it was the vibe was similar,

2474
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 4: you know, like to feel to the city and like.

2475
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 6: People listening that to me about water, which I didn't feel.

2476
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 6: I didn't feel San Francisco was bostony.

2477
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 4: No, I've heard that about Seattle too, that Seattle is

2478
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:13,600
Speaker 4: a little bostony.

2479
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 7: A little bit.

2480
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Seattle. I like Seattle.

2481
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:17,879
Speaker 4: But I've actually really heard that about Vancouver.

2482
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 3: But I moved never been to Vancouver, have been there either.

2483
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 1: All right, let's get some phone calls wrapped up here.

2484
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 1: We're coming down the home stretch. Matthews in Arizona. What's up, Matthew?

2485
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,640
Speaker 1: H He was holding on for a long time, so

2486
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,760
Speaker 1: he gave up. I think he had a review of Chicago, Pope. Yeah,

2487
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 1: or maybe he's going on is that a real show? Uh?

2488
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 1: Noah is in Toronto? What's up? Noah?

2489
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 4: Toronto?

2490
01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: Noah? Is it raining?

2491
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 3: Uh?

2492
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:48,519
Speaker 6: No?

2493
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 16: So I wanted to ask, what's the draft and the

2494
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 16: free agency over if there was one thing you could

2495
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 16: change about her off season, what change would you make?

2496
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 10: And I'll give my answer.

2497
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:04,280
Speaker 16: I think, looking back, I would have made the Dk

2498
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:07,320
Speaker 16: Metcalf trade, give up the second forum. I think it

2499
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 16: ended up being essentially trade on Henderson's topon Diggs and

2500
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 16: maybe like five to ten extra million dollars for DK.

2501
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 10: Metcalf, and I just I don't know.

2502
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 16: I don't I'm kind of skeptical about Gigs the thirty

2503
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,559
Speaker 16: two coming off the Tornado, and I don't see running

2504
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 16: backs as a valuable but I think Metcalf would have

2505
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 16: been better in my opinion. But curious if you guys

2506
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 16: could make one change to their off season.

2507
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 1: Well, it's a good one.

2508
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 4: That's what immediately came to mind.

2509
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 3: I like that one.

2510
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:38,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, So would you rather have Metcalftain Henderson?

2511
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 2: No, No, I would.

2512
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the wide receiver with a

2513
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 3: running bank. That's not a personal right.

2514
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the one fair second guess. Like,

2515
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 4: if you're going to second guess anything, it's probably that.

2516
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I probably take Dk. Also,

2517
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 4: he's also approving.

2518
01:53:57,240 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 3: And no was scenario. I would still want Digs too,

2519
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 3: Like that wouldn't preclude you making that trade for dk

2520
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 3: Metcalf shouldn't have eliminated adding Stefan Diggs. I would have

2521
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 3: done both.

2522
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 1: I like the ark of his question. Rodney's in Delaware.

2523
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 1: What's up? Rodney?

2524
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:15,600
Speaker 11: Get it?

2525
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 2: No one got it?

2526
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 1: Fred fell flat Rodney. He was on for over in

2527
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 1: an hour, so I don't blame him. Okay, he's gone. Well.

2528
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 3: Plus, you know I haven't exactly eve been on point.

2529
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 3: We had dallash Clock on this show. Rodney here want to.

2530
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:30,439
Speaker 2: Come on there?

2531
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 1: And I don't know.

2532
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 3: Da against Rodney Harri.

2533
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 1: So Pascal in New York City has an explanation of

2534
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 1: how someone could be both a Knicks fan and a

2535
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:46,440
Speaker 1: Patriots fan.

2536
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 3: He says total.

2537
01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 1: He says, some people seem just don't seem to get

2538
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 1: how this works. Some of us grew up in the

2539
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 1: part of New England that's also the New York City

2540
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 1: metro area. I'm a Patriots, Yankees, Rangers, Yukon fan because

2541
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 1: I grew up in Fairfield County, Connecticut. Patriots and Knicks

2542
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 1: are perfectly logical.

2543
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 3: I think you can have favorite teams right. I don't

2544
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 3: have a respect for that, Fred Connecticut. That's why Fred's

2545
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 3: you don't hit Fred making fun of this guy.

2546
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't.

2547
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 3: I was.

2548
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: I was a Broncos fan.

2549
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 3: Name a title winner, was a fan?

2550
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 1: No, No, it wasn't because of that, because when I

2551
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: was a Broncos fan, they had never won anything.

2552
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 3: No, Fred, like a lot of different teams. It was

2553
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 3: just I like the a f C.

2554
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 1: I like like Willie Lanier and the Chiefs, like I

2555
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 1: gravitated to the a f C West for somebody, I father, Fred,

2556
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 1: Father Fred, what is that? That was the new pope?

2557
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 8: And you were showing us that the first time.

2558
01:55:52,560 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 12: It's like, oh that's funny, your excellency, Yeah, correct, Oh

2559
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 12: my god, that's fine.

2560
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 4: And I know I'm just gonna probably get me some heat.

2561
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 4: But like just like pick one City and like their

2562
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 4: teams like I do.

2563
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 3: But.

2564
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:17,879
Speaker 6: Another team at all though, Ever, I was a Seahawks

2565
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 6: guy for some reason. I still don't know why.

2566
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 3: I like Steve Largent and I like the Seahawks growing up.

2567
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2568
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 3: But did you like the Seahawks? Like if they played

2569
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 3: the Patriots, you would look for the Seahawks. No, I

2570
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 3: don't know.

2571
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of people like that, so

2572
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:32,919
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to throw too much shade. I just personally,

2573
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 4: like when you're from Boston and you like all the

2574
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 4: Boston teams, like you're maybe like a little bit bigger

2575
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,240
Speaker 4: than a fan than like people that are from a

2576
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 4: different state that are like, oh, I'm like a Patriots,

2577
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 4: Cowboys Celtics.

2578
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 8: And that's what I was gonna say. Patriots Knicks isn't

2579
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 8: nearly as bad as like a Patriots Lakers fan, like

2580
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 8: Patriots Lakers or like.

2581
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 4: A Dallas Lakers fan, which happened. Cowboys Lakers happens a lot.

2582
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 8: And then throw the Yankees in there of.

2583
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 3: Teams that I liked, but my teams were the four

2584
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 3: of Boston teams. But I had a lot of friends

2585
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 3: that liked all kinds of different teams. Like when we

2586
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 3: were growing up, Fred and I like, there were a

2587
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 3: lot of people that didn't like the Patriots Necessarily you

2588
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:13,680
Speaker 3: could never watch them.

2589
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 1: They weren't any good and they weren't on TV.

2590
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 3: So you know, when I was little, it was like

2591
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,040
Speaker 3: Dallas Pittsburgh all the time, and you picked one of

2592
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:22,560
Speaker 3: those two teams. I always rooted for Dallas. They always lost.

2593
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 4: The only team that I ever got into that was

2594
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 4: like a little I was the Clippers because they're not

2595
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 4: the Lakers, so there's no rivalry with the Celtics. When

2596
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 4: I was living out there, that was Chris Paul Blake, Griffin,

2597
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 4: DeAndre Jordan, JJ Reddick, Like they were really good. So

2598
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 4: I went to a bunch of Clippers games, but I

2599
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 4: never like was like caring. I just it was fun.

2600
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 3: Never root for the Clippers over no.

2601
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 4: And then when the Celtics would come to town, I'd

2602
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 4: go to that game in Green Like I tried, I get.

2603
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 3: You Seattle things. I tried to Seattle team that they

2604
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 3: were fun. Steve Largen like st.

2605
01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 7: I had the football cards. But I tried to do

2606
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:58,040
Speaker 7: the Dodgers too.

2607
01:57:58,120 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 3: I just I couldn't. You can't make yourself be a

2608
01:57:59,880 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 3: f I don't think that's possible.

2609
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 4: But the Clippers was pretty easy because Doc Rivers was

2610
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 4: the coach at the time and JJ Redick is one

2611
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 4: of my favorite players, so he was on the Clippers.

2612
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 4: So that that team was, like, I was easy.

2613
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,320
Speaker 3: We were just destined to argue you.

2614
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 1: I never played.

2615
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 3: Oh did I hate g J Redim?

2616
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean Paul made fun of me. But until eighth grade,

2617
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 1: I lived in New Jersey, so I was a Mets,

2618
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 1: next Rangers and uh Jets fan.

2619
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 3: I don't make fun of you for that.

2620
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:30,000
Speaker 1: I read the Brad Park book and he called the

2621
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 1: Boston fans bush league, and then he got traded to

2622
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 1: the Bruins. So that's kind of like how I was.

2623
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 4: It kind of explains a lot anyway.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's gonna be like the Denver thing, like

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Denver's good.

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01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 1: And no, it wasn't all of a sudden. I was

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Speaker 1: a Denver fan when Craig Morton was the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I went to the Super Bowl, but.

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Speaker 1: I was a fan before they went to the Super Bowl.

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01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 1: That was the payoff, that was, and I became even

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01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:55,839
Speaker 1: more of a fan than when Elway became quarterback.

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01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 3: I became even more of a fan and they went

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Speaker 3: to four Super bowl Right. Well, you said the Paul

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Speaker 3: resonated with me.

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Speaker 1: I invested early, maybe maybe five. I was an early investor.

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Speaker 1: That's smart.

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Speaker 6: But like growing up here, I was in the eighties.

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Speaker 6: Even when the Patriots went to Super I remember, like

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01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 6: one of my that's friends. It was a huge forty

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Speaker 6: nine ers fan like he had all forty nine ers stuff.

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Speaker 3: I have a million, you know, friends like that.

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01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 7: People love the winners.

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01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, he still likes the forty nine ers for

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Speaker 3: what it's worth.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition of

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered. I hope everyone has a good weekend. What's

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Speaker 1: the weekend supposed to be like around here?

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Speaker 3: Saturday? Rain, rain, Saturday is supposed to beautiful.

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01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 1: For Mother's Day, I got a lot of stuff to do,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 4: Call your moms.

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01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, call your moms. Make sure you take care of

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01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 1: her and uh, you guys going out doing brunch or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. Some plans.

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Speaker 7: Gott gotta go to church for Father Fred.

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01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 1: Though, Father Fred's given mass church in the morning and

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Speaker 1: get sermon ready. You got to do it. I'll have

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Speaker 1: to develop a Chicago accident.

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Speaker 3: You know it's Chicago church nine.

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Speaker 1: Workshop that off off air, all right, see you next Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: The Patriots Thanks a Lot.

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Speaker 5: the exits and O's trends and latest New England Patriots

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Speaker 5: roster moves.

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Speaker 4: And I'm usually into the numbers. Okay, we do this.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's the tangible numbers.

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Speaker 4: There's tame here. Just give me. There's the advantage fact.

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Speaker 4: I haven't know how to work it. I'm surprised. I

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Speaker 4: know an old fan over here. I thought maybe i'd

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Speaker 4: have to show you, like a tutorial or something.

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Speaker 3: How am I old man?

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