1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam, this is John, your og Okay 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: story Time podcast hosts, and we got some delicious, juicy 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: stories coming up. But if you want to hear that deliciousness, 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: you know, just stick around for a two minute break 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: with a word from our sponsors. My manager mistreated me, 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: so I got her fired. Ooo. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: How do you like that? 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: Get smoked? Dork I twenty six, female, moved away from 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: home to start a new job a year ago. Two 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: months ago, my boss assigned me to stay for two 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: weeks in my home city for a couple of big projects. 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: As the office there just opened, I was greeted by 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: one of the managers, Charlotte. By the way, this comes 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: from user wine Soda And if you want to submit 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay story 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: Time still brought it. 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: I'm Dakota, I'm Angie, I'm Carly, and we are here 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: to give you good advice. 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: Goofy, But we don't have all the answers. We really 20 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: know what we would do, so if you would do 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: something different, let us know in the comments. And op says. 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Female was pretty easy to work with and easy to 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: get along with. In our first project, we organized a 24 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: work event together, and she went out of her way 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: to introduce me to people around the office and made 26 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: sure I didn't feel left out. After a successful event, 27 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: she invited me out for drinks in a nearby bar 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: with her teammate. Nothing much happened at the time. The 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: three of us talked a lot, and Charlotte made sure 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: I was comfortable with the place, even suggesting we find 31 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: another place when she saw I was getting overwhelmed with 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: the loud music. When it was time to go home, 33 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: she messaged me on our work chat to check if 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: I was able to go home safely. After that, Charlotte 35 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: and I became friends. We didn't have much interaction in 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: the next few days since we worked in different departments, 37 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: just a friendly high and small talk whenever we would 38 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: run into each other. A few days later, Charlotte and 39 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: I had another project together, another short event that we 40 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: were organizing. The event went smoothly. After we'd clocked out, 41 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: Charlotte asked if I'd be down to have dinner with 42 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: her before we both go home. I didn't mind grabbing 43 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: a bike and I didn't have other plans, so I said, Eh, 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: why not? Why now I'm gonna go get a little 45 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: dinner with Charlie. 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: No big deal, We're just getting dinner. 47 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: Is she okay? So? Is what is Charlotte gonna be? 48 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: Like? 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: I love you, and I think she's gonna make close marriage. 50 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: She's just gonna jump straight to it, get him a 51 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: shiny diamond ring, and. 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: She's gonna go straight to you need to marry me. Yep. 53 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: I will be at your wife. 54 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: She's gonna skip the whole courting phase, and then they're 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: gonna have children together. 56 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: You are going to meet my parents tomorrow, yep, and 57 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: they will marry us. Charlotte, what happened to your voice? 58 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: We're talking like that. Charlotte's scaring me, like I ate 59 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: too fast. So she took me to a nearby diner 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: that she liked. While walking, Charlotte and I kept the 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: conversation flowing, just anything and everything we could think about. 62 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: Then I noticed Charlotte casually grabbing my arm and holding 63 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: my hand while walking. At first, I was like five 64 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: question marks, because I'm not the type for physical contact, 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: especially when I'm not particularly close with the person. When 66 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: we sat down at our table, Charlotte seemed a lot 67 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: more touchy, bro, So you were like five question marks. 68 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: But like silently, you were just like, as she holds 69 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: my hand, just yeah, maybe like pull your hand away 70 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: and say that's kind of funny. 71 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro doesn't know that this is a date and 72 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: agree to a date. He's just now finding out that 73 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: this might be more than just dinner. 74 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: Why don't you want to hold my hand? I am 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: your wife. Charlotte was randomly holding my hand or touching 76 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: my arm while talking. Honestly, it was getting uncomfortable, but 77 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: I brushed it aside because one, she's still a manager 78 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: and out ranks me, so I still have to be 79 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: mindful what I stay or do, and two I was 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: probably just overthinking it. Bro shut up. 81 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot that she was his boss. That definitely 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: changes the situation. 83 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: You are my superior. 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, wonder he was so oblivious thinking that it 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: was not a date. 86 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 2: Makes sense. 87 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: When I got home, all I could think about that 88 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: dinner was that was weird. But again I tried to 89 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: brush it off, thinking it's just her being friendly and 90 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: comfortable with me. The next day, though, was the one 91 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: that made everything spiral out of control. I was stuck 92 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: in my office for the entire day as I had 93 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: a lot to finish. It was a rough day for 94 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: me anyway. I clocked out and wanted to go home 95 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: asap to sleep off this particularly bad day at work. 96 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: But as soon as I got out of our building, 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: I ran into Charlotte and two other managers, Hank and Alden. 98 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: They cornered me and insisted I go with them for drinks. 99 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Felt like I couldn't say no to them since the 100 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: three of them are literally managers versus just me. Yes, 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I have problems saying no to people in authority. We 102 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: went to the bar that Charlotte first took me to 103 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: after our first event. I didn't feel like drinking at 104 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: the time, so I ordered soda, but Hank and Alden 105 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: insisted that I have a few glasses. Bro that your 106 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: manager suck. I'm sorry. Hank and Alden were pretty much 107 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: grilling me with personal questions, trying to get to know me, 108 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: but in an intense way. They asked me if I 109 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: was single or in a relationship. After I said I 110 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: wasn't with anyone at the moment, they kept bombarding me 111 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: with more personal questions, like what kind of guys I 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: was into, and who among the company's leaders and executive 113 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: were my closest type of guys jokes on them because 114 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't even into guys. But that's definitely not a 115 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: fact that I wanted to tell them. I mean, I'm 116 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: not a closeted lover of women. I'm already out to 117 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: my family, but it wasn't a topic I liked to 118 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: talk about at work or with people I just met. Anyway, 119 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 1: I was stressing out because Hank and all didn't manage 120 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: to figure out I wasn't into guys, and I didn't 121 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: know how else to answer their questions without outing myself. 122 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: And while all that was going on, Charlotte was a 123 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: totally different problem. While also joining in the conversation, she 124 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: was drinking a lot more than us and got wasted first. 125 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: And while joining in the conversation she got a lot 126 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: more touchy than last time. She still grabbed my arm 127 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: or held my hand. There was even one point where 128 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: she was trying to talk over me and she grabbed 129 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: me by the chin so I would face her. 130 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: This is all so insane. HR, HR, HR, you need 131 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: to go. 132 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: She gotta go to HR, And that's what HR sounds like. 133 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: I And yeah, you gotta kind of go, get get 134 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: that dog in you and go to HR. And be like, 135 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, my managers are literal out of control. 136 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: Out of control, all three of them. 137 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: The girls making moves on OPI, and then the guys 138 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: are asking way too many personal relationship questions. 139 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: It's all bad. 140 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just really weird. 141 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: It's all bad. 142 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: Once she grabbed my chin, I definitely just wanted to 143 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: go home and cry because I felt so uncomfortable and 144 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with the three of them, not to mention, it 145 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: was so draining trying to keep up with smiling and 146 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: making it look like I was having a nice time 147 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: with them. I hope you go to therapy of some 148 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: kind and get it addressed, because you know, you can 149 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: say no to these people, and like, I know you 150 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: said you have problems saying no to authority, but it's 151 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: like it's good to be aware of that and then 152 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: like take steps to you know, work on it, because 153 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: you could have just been like, no, I'm not really 154 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: gonna go out. I just want to go home. I've 155 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: had a long day. 156 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: The situation they no, you have to come out, and 157 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: you go no, I don't. 158 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get you next time, Yeah, I mean, short 159 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: of them restraining you and putting you in a car, 160 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: which would I think be a bigger problem in and 161 00:07:59,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: of itself. 162 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, because we understand that, like it's it's the pressure 163 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: and stuff, you know that, it's like, that's such an 164 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: uncomfortable situation that you're in. But but yeah, I feel 165 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: like therapy could definitely help push past that uncomfortability. 166 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: You know. 167 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,559 Speaker 1: Sorry, I just had a thought that wasn't that wasn't funny, 168 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: But I just thought, if you ever really need to 169 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: get out of it, just tell me of diarrhea. Ha. 170 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: No one ever is going to push someone with diarrhea 171 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: to hang out. 172 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, just like so sorry, I would love to, but 173 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 3: I'm literally about to poo my pants and it's about 174 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: to get real stinky up in here. 175 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I have I have diarrhea. 176 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I straight up I'm gonna pull my pants. 177 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: I would love to hang out, but I have diary. 178 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 3: Suddenly, your hand on my chin makes me really have 179 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: to pooh my pants. I better not so it doesn't 180 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: get stinky in the taste of your drinks. 181 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: I can't trust anything, right, and neither should you. It 182 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: was getting pretty late and they could see that I 183 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: was getting wasted and was starting to doze off. They 184 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: insisted that they take me home, since Hank had a 185 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: car and he was dropping off Charlotte to her place 186 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: as well. I still took the offer, and thank god 187 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: I did, because as soon as I stood up, I 188 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: could barely stand and walk in a straight line. Hank 189 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: parked his car a little bit from the bar, so 190 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: we had to walk for a few minutes. While walking, 191 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Charlotte was also wasted and could barely walk. I don't 192 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: know how messed up she was, but it was enough 193 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: that she put her arm around me and pulled me 194 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: closer to her. Let me tell you that the panic 195 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: sobered me up pretty fast. And I say panic because 196 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: overwhelmed and uncomfortable is an understatement to how I was 197 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: feeling already. To cut the story short, Charlotte was just 198 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: as touchy for the remainder of my stay in that office. 199 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: Not enough to call it spicy intimidation or you know, 200 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: something that could be prosecuted, but definitely made me feel 201 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: uncomfortable around her. As soon as I got back, I 202 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: reported what happened to my manager, who then reported it 203 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: to h R. Yay another great way. I mean, sure, 204 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: you guys were both a little messed up, but you know, 205 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: Charlotte's pulling you close. Another great way is just do 206 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: And then they're like, oh, actually I don't. I think 207 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: I'll stay away a little bit. You just gotta hit 208 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: them with that one. 209 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that because you're gonna smell my poo 210 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: in my pants. 211 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: Don't get too close. 212 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: You got exact candor, and it's like, I wouldn't do that. 213 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna smell the pool in my pants. I got diarrhea. 214 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: You're gonna get stick in your in your bubble, in 215 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: your personal bubble. 216 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: Is so before anyone asks Charlotte isn't into girls? Yeah? Yeah, 217 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: did you read your story? You typed it? You read it. 218 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: I feel like. 219 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: Your gatar knows better than that. 220 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: Am At least she mentioned having a boyfriend in the past. 221 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: She trying to make you her boyfriend. 222 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 3: Girl. 223 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: You're about to be her boyfriend. 224 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,359 Speaker 1: You could be your girlfriend boyfriend anyway. Charlotte gets suspended 225 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: for a month and HR conducted an investigation. I'm in therapy, 226 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: let's go. 227 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: Let's go. 228 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: We did it. We did it. 229 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: Oh so far? 230 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Okay, and just a few days ago. HR's final decision 231 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: was to fire Charlotte and put Hank and Alden in 232 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: a tight ep. What's a PIP performance improvement plan? Nice? 233 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: Even though I'm in therapy, I still feel so much guilt. 234 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh I feel like this was all partly my fault. Yeah, 235 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: oh Pee? How dare you exist? 236 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: How dare you exist and work for terrible people? 237 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? If you weren't so hot and cool, people wouldn't 238 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: be so into you. 239 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,479 Speaker 2: Yeah? How dare you pull your pants? 240 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: This is all your fault for not having diarrhea. 241 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 242 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: I could have just kept quiet. Maybe I was overthinking 243 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: all that. I should have just sucked it up and 244 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: moved on. No, they literally fired her for good reason. Yeah. No, 245 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: you're good. You did a good thing. You did the 246 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: right thing. 247 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: Hopefully, therapy, can you teach you that? 248 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: I hope so. I feel like if I had just 249 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: been tougher and stronger, I could have just let it go. 250 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: I could have talked to Charlotte that what she did 251 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: made me uncomfortable, and we could just set a lip 252 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: between us. I could have just stayed quiet so no 253 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: one gets hurt or fired. No, that would have just 254 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: hurt you, and she would have been weird with you, 255 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: and then you would have probably been ostracized and made 256 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: even more uncomfortable in different ways. A few days ago, 257 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: I stumbled upon Charlotte's Instagram account. I didn't go through 258 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: her account, but I did take a screenshot of it 259 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: because a part of me really wants to reach out 260 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: and tell her I'm sorry. Don't do that. You shouldn't 261 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: be sorry. You have nothing to be sorry for. 262 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: She was pestering you. She was legally he. 263 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: Was illegally pestering you legally a weak press environment. She 264 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: was really pestering me. 265 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: I'm calling Egle pest mint. 266 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm calling the illegal testament of the water. He's funny, guys. 267 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull my whole UF. 268 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Reddit, do you think 269 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm in the wrong here? Should I send her a message? 270 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: Do you think it's right for me to apologize? What 271 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: can I do that won't make things worse? Update? No way, 272 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: we had no comments. I was really hoping that you 273 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: could read the Internet supporting you, because I'm sure that's 274 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: what they did. You don't need to reach out. I wouldn't. 275 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly think that would not be a good 276 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: idea for yourself and just for the whole situation, like 277 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 3: for your own mental being because it would remind yourself 278 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: or would support the idea that you're guilty, which is 279 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: not true. But then also just for the situation, I 280 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: feel like then now it might open some sort of 281 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: gates for her to contact you more, since you're so 282 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: casual about it, you know. So I think it's a 283 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: badady all around. 284 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: If anyone's gonna apologize, it should be her reaching out 285 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: to you somehow to say, hey, I'm sorry, you know 286 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: my actions caused you to feel this way and blah 287 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: blah blah, I was in the wrong. Even then, I 288 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: don't think either of you really need to have any 289 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: form of communication moving forward. Agreed, you can just silently 290 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: wish each other the best and there's an update. So 291 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: being in therapy really helped me process what happened. Good. 292 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: Great. 293 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm still continuing my sessions, which I think is going 294 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: well since I can now talk about it with people. 295 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: It's still not easy to talk about, but at least 296 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: now I've learned to know which people I can trust 297 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: who tell my story. I've shared what happened to two 298 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: of my seniors in the team, and they've been very 299 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: patient with me since the beginning. They did notice that 300 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: something was bothering me quite a lot, but not once 301 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: did they push me to tell them what I was 302 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: going through. They told me that they were willing to 303 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: listen once I'm ready to tell them, and I finally 304 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: found the curve bridge to share my story. They were 305 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: shocked and were upset for me, but they were also 306 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: very supportive. One of them, let's call him Alex, no 307 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: real names here, told me that he had a feeling 308 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: that what happened with me had something to do with Charlotte. 309 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: He said that it was too much of a coincidence 310 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: that I came back to our main office looking depressed 311 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: and traumatized at the same time that news spread that 312 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: Charlotte was suddenly suspended. Anyway, Alex gave me some background 313 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: about Charlotte, since they used to be in the same team. 314 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: He told me she had always been like that, touchy 315 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: and overly friendly when it came to girls and women. 316 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: He also confirmed that Charlotte is into women. 317 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: We notice, we know this, stop the presence. 318 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: We've got breaking news. 319 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: Breaking news. A woman who's overly touchy to other women 320 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: is into women. 321 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: Who she literally grabbed your chin like a come over here, 322 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: a sweetheart. 323 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: He oh, I hear it Dland. 324 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, what is her name? 325 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: Uh? I don't know. 326 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: Uh, that's probably like that Transatlantic accent. God, who is 327 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: that intress? 328 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: Was it? 329 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Hepburl of Audrey, hepban kit brand should play at it? Yeah, 330 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: how it was? She was in the aviator. 331 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: Cutly, I don't know. 332 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: Surely, I don't know. 333 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: But what I do know is that fat woman is gay. 334 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: We got it, lock it down. She dated guys in 335 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: the past, but she also dated women. She was pretty 336 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: active in the LGBTQ plus initiatives of the company, and 337 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: she doesn't deny being in the community, though Alex says 338 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: she's a lot like me, who's not very vocal about 339 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: her spicy protivity and labels. Either she's just Italian. She 340 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: speaks with her hands. Is he gay? 341 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: Or you're Repeian? You're a pain in your pant. 342 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Oh, another great way to get out of an offer 343 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: to go out. Sorry, I just heed my pants. 344 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: Actually have to go home in my pants. 345 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: I peed right in my pants. I love that kid, 346 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: my pants pants. Honestly, I kind of wish you didn't 347 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: tell me all of that, because it made the gravity 348 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: of her actions feel a lot heavier, and it made 349 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: me think of even more questions that I know I'll 350 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: never get the answers to. Did Charlotte try to get 351 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: me wasted on purpose? I mean probably not. Were her 352 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: actions just friendly or did she have any malicious intent? 353 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: Was Charlotte even wasted or was she just pretending to 354 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: be that wasted. Alex mentioned drinking with her a couple 355 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: of times when they were in the same team, and 356 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: it takes so long for Charlotte to get wasted, like 357 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: they were all pretty smashed, but Charlotte was still going 358 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: strong downing shots. Also, I think it's worth mentioning that 359 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: Charlotte and I are in the same city. I found 360 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: out that the grape Vine that the city I moved 361 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: to is her home city. But it's a big city, 362 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: so the chances of me and her running into each 363 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: other are pretty slim, though I I hope we never 364 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: see each other ever again. Against all your advice, I 365 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: did message Charlotte, why you do that? You even said it, 366 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: You quin against everyone's advice you just deliver. Reached out 367 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: to that Charlotte, why would you do such a thing? 368 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: Just a quick and short message saying it wasn't my 369 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: intention to get her fired? And that I tried telling 370 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: HR I didn't want her fired and that I wish 371 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: her well in life. I deleted the inbox so I 372 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't see if she'd seen the message or what. I 373 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: don't expect her to reply, though, if anything, i'd expect 374 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: her to block me. I told Alex that I sent 375 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: Charlotte a message, but I didn't expect to reply. Alex 376 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: then asked me, is there any chance or possibility that 377 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: you like or are in love with Charlotte? Those are 378 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: his exact words, and I remember it exactly because it's 379 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: been bothering me for a while, and honestly, I don't 380 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: even know how to answer. You answer with a resounding no. Yep, 381 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: las no, I'm sure you don't. Look when it comes 382 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: to HR, we don't get to decide once it gets 383 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: brought to HR. In the company get to decide, Oh, 384 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: Charlotte is a insane liability to have at the company. 385 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: If she's going to a ligament pestument all of our 386 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: female workers in a position of authority, So she's out. Yep, 387 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: you know it's out of your hands. At that point. 388 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: We do have a little bit more story left. Any 389 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: final thoughts before we finish it up. 390 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 3: My final thoughts are, let's get as far away from 391 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: this woman as humanly possible, and that includes digitally. 392 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: Let's get digitally far away. 393 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: I think you should block her, perhaps, and instead of 394 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: waiting for her to block you. 395 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: That could be a good idea. I'm sorry that you're 396 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: feeling so guilty. You really didn't do anything wrong. 397 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: I think that would be an important thing to tell 398 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: your therapist that's how you're feeling, and I'm sure you 399 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: have so keep. 400 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 2: Working on that. 401 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: So it feels like if you were like walking across 402 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: the street, like in a crosswalk at the right time, 403 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: you get the green light, and some somebody just like 404 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: blows through a red light and swerves around you and 405 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: gets to a car accident, and you're like, this is 406 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: my fault. No, it was that it was the person 407 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: who was recklessly driving's fault that they got into an accident. 408 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: Exactly great way to put it. 409 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: Maybe I just got confused. Could this be a part 410 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: of the trauma? Did I overreact? Is there something fundamentally 411 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: wrong with me? Wait? What how did we get here? 412 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: How did we get here? We're here just because your 413 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: coworker Alex asked you if you liked Charlotte when you 414 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm pretty confidently I'm sure you know you don't. Yeah, 415 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 1: it's definitely bothering me a lot, but I don't know 416 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: how to tell my therapist without sounding like I need 417 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: to be institutionalized or something. Babe, You're allowed. I'm just, 418 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm just. I just want to say that you're allowed 419 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: to feel blank, to think blank some but to think 420 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: and feel, not to do There are some things you 421 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't do in direct Yeah, unless you need to get 422 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: out of something. 423 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: If you need to get out of something, lying about 424 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 3: pooping your pants not allowed to do it. 425 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: You have to commit to the bit Anyways. Anyways, as 426 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: for Hank and Alden, I heard that Hank is under 427 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: strict observance because HR reserviced a previous complaint against him, 428 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: and Alden has been keeping a low profile since then. 429 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: That's pretty much all from me. I'm still continuing my therapy, 430 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: and it's been a pretty bloody fight trying to get 431 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: over the trauma and guilt and whatever else I've been 432 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: going through that I can't name. I hope I can 433 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: learn to feel safe again, because it's definitely exhausting mentally 434 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: and emotionally. And that is the end of that story. Yeah, 435 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: I think maybe be more honest with your therapist. It 436 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: sounds like you maybe are keeping some stuff close too 437 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: close to the vest. 438 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: Which is understandable because even like sometimes especially if you're 439 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 3: a new to therapy, you're new to a therapist or 440 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 3: new to talking about a situation, you me uncomfortable even 441 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: talking to your therapist about certain things. 442 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: So hopefully you. 443 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 3: Can get past that and uh, you know, remind yourself 444 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: that the therapist is a safe space. This is like 445 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 3: exactly where you should be talking about it, where you're 446 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 3: welcome to talk about it. I'm really hoping that those 447 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 3: questions at the end were just her like deepest fears, 448 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: and maybe she doesn't totally believe that she deserves to 449 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: be in a mental institution or something like. I feel 450 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 3: like we've gotten some stories where it's like, Okay, clearly 451 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: OPI is not in the wrong, but then they still 452 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: get the question of like am I the a hole? 453 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: So I feel like what I'm hoping anyway is that 454 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 3: she was just kind of adding those questions in to 455 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: get some sort of feedback. But maybe she doesn't like 456 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: not asking those questions because she genuinely believes that that 457 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: is the case. 458 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: You know, I certainly would hope so. 459 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: But good luck to you, OPI. I think it's great 460 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 3: that you're in therapy. That's like the best thing that 461 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: you could do in this situation. And I'm so glad 462 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: that those bosses are getting what's coming to them, and 463 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you reported it. I feel like maybe 464 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: some of this guilt is because they're losing their jobs, 465 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: but you definitely are not responsible for that, and I'm 466 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 3: I think it was a very smart thing to report that. 467 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: I think that's probably a very common thing. 468 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: People don't want to report it because they don't want 469 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: to be responsible for someone losing their job. So yeah, 470 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 3: to anyone out there, just report it. If it's not 471 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: a big deal, then that will come out in the wash. 472 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: But if it is, then I will also be revealed 473 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: in the investigation. So just do it. 474 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, And if they fired her, I doubt this was 475 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: the first time this has happened. But also, dude, grabbing 476 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: your chin at dinner so that you turn your head 477 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: to her is yeah wild. 478 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you were like so uncomfortable to the fact 479 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: that you like left and cried after that, are you 480 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 3: into the bathroom, cried or wanted to cry or something 481 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: like that. 482 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 2: I think trust that feeling. 483 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 3: That's not just you being dramatic or something that's like 484 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 3: your initial subconscious reaction to it, like physical reaction too. 485 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: So trust yourself. You are good. They are bad. But 486 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: that's the endlass story. 487 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: We've got another one coming right up. My principal asked 488 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: me out. 489 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: He was tuned in to a teacher. 490 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: For the love of God, I twenty seven female all 491 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: school teacher. 492 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: Thank God. 493 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: Last year we got a new principal forties male in 494 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: our school who is very unpopular amongst the teachers. He 495 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: has been very critical in all his evaluations and shared 496 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 3: some unkind words with our teachers when he has had 497 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: a criticism. By the way, this comes from it, principal 498 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: asked me out, And if you want to submit your 499 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: own stories, go to the ours lash okay, storytime, separate 500 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: it and I'm Angie. 501 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, and we're here to give good advice. 502 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: Goofy. 503 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: But we don't have all the answers. We just know 504 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: what we would do in the situation. 505 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: So let us know what you. 506 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: Would do in the comments. 507 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: So Opie says, I, on the other hand, have received 508 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: glowing evaluations as a teacher under every observation. I have 509 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 3: yet to hear mean or harsh criticisms from him, and 510 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: I even got a lot of new things for my 511 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: classroom this year that no other teacher got. 512 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: I'm really upset and feeling like crap. 513 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: Now. 514 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: I thought he appreciated me and had respect for me 515 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 2: as a teacher. I really did. 516 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: But after school today I went to his office to 517 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: ask him about a semester exam for a particular student. 518 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: After we discussed the student, he got up and shut 519 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 3: the door and sat in the seat beside me. I 520 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 3: got a pit in my stomach because I thought I 521 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: was being disciplined or something I did wrong. He then 522 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: said that he had heard me saying that I get 523 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: together with friends on the weekends to play cards. He 524 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: asked if I'd ever like to get together just the 525 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: two of us and play cards at his house. 526 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: Like, Hey, I hear'd you like to hang out and 527 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: play cards? Why don't we go play solitaire? Too? Right? 528 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: Okay, wait, Carly, Carly has evidence of Dakota. 529 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: Wouldn't put this in the discord. 530 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: Evidence of Dakota abusing this mic that is in my hands. Okay. 531 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 3: He was very clear he did not mean it as 532 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: a date because he is my direct supervisor, and that 533 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: he meant it as just friends. 534 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: Not sure. 535 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: I believe that he just asked me not long ago 536 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 3: if I was making another visit soon to a state 537 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: where my ex boyfriend lives, and I told him that 538 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: I wasn't with that guy I used to visit, So no, 539 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 3: My face got really hot and I stammered that I 540 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: would not be interested in dating, but maybe sometime, because 541 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 3: I was too nervous to say no with them sitting 542 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: next to me. I have been really upset since I 543 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 3: got home. I've been so stupid to actually think that 544 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: I was a great teacher. Well, you could still be 545 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 3: a great teacher, but just his evaluation is unreliable. 546 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't hold a lot of weight to anything 547 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: this guy says about anyone. 548 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: I feel like it's all been a lie and I 549 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 2: just want to curl up in a ball and cry. 550 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 2: All of my glowing evaluations mean nothing. 551 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: Do the kids like you? That's all that really matters. 552 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you, they're learning things, then you're good. 553 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: I planned to go to his office before school very 554 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: early tomorrow and tell him that I thought about it 555 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: and I'm not interested and think that it would be 556 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: a bad idea to spend time together under any circumstance. 557 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: What is the best way to approach this? How do 558 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 3: I pick up my self esteem? And there are some comments, 559 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 3: but what do you think to. 560 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: Go to movie day with the students? 561 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: Hey? 562 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: Everyone to go oh miss ohpi's the best. We watched 563 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: a movie on a Wednesday. 564 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, she let us watch a movie and she left 565 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: the room. So who knows what we'll. 566 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: Get up to. 567 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, like just focused on you, you and 568 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: your lesson plan and your your students. 569 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 3: I think that you can like go to him and say, like, hey, 570 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: on second thought, like I don't think it would ever 571 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: be appropriate for me to go to your house one 572 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 3: on one to play cards. I think, you know, even 573 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: if we didn't date and it was platonic, I think 574 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: it would very much look like it was a date 575 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: and either way be very inappropriate. 576 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: So I I think that's a bad idea. You could say. 577 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: That too, is like I know you just said it 578 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: wasn't a date to try to, like, I don't know, 579 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 3: appease him. 580 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the optics. I just don't want the 581 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: optics of going to your house alone. 582 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 3: Or just hanging out one on one together at all, 583 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: even and then maybe you can even mention something about 584 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: like like, I appreciate the good evaluation, I just want 585 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 3: to double check that it is not about any sort 586 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: of personal feelings. Yeah, towards me, because I believe you 587 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 3: have not asked any of the other teachers the same, but. 588 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: We do have some comments. 589 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 3: I'm so lost one two three, four seventy nine, says 590 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 3: responding to the idea that all my glowing evaluations mean nothing. 591 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: Just because he likes you doesn't mean that you aren't 592 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: a good teacher and that your work is not excellent. 593 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: Don't let him have such power over yourself. Do you 594 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: love your students? Do you do your best to give 595 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: them a good education? Do they get along with you? 596 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: Focus on that, not on him. Exactly what you were saying, 597 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 3: Opie says. My students brighten each and every day. For me, 598 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: I try to make the subject as interesting as possible, 599 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 3: and I'm excited to come to school each day. I 600 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: love each of my colleagues as well. They always ask 601 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: me why I'm in such a good mood. I take 602 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 3: the time to chat with them and see them as 603 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 3: often as possible. I have been at the school two 604 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: years longer than this man. Prime's Ghost says. My wife 605 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: is an elementary school teacher and her principal did the 606 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: exact same thing last year. The teacher in question filed 607 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: a complaint with the teachers association and the superintendent the 608 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: district took it super seriously, and the principle was fired 609 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: and replaced before the end of the school year. You 610 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: should file a grievance. The principal has a lot of 611 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 3: power over the teachers in a school, and I can't 612 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: think of a way to look at as a situation 613 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: like this without there being a serious problem. That's honestly, 614 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: I didn't even think about that that you should just 615 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: report the teacher, because then you can also mention like, 616 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's related, but like everyone else 617 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: is getting terrible reviews and I've gotten glowing reviews, and 618 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: personally I think that all the other teachers are. 619 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: Very good, so you could certainly do that. 620 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Opie says, I feel like I'm in a sticky 621 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 3: situation because he made it clear in telling me that 622 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: he was not interested in dating, but just hanging out alone, right, Uh, 623 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: what should I say to him? On the other hand, 624 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: I do wonder if this could be a blessing in 625 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: disguise for all of my teacher friends. 626 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: They are so unhappy. I hate to see them miserable 627 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: at work. 628 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: And there is an update, But yeah, I feel like 629 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: that would reporting him and getting him fired with benevate 630 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: your friends, all your teacher friends. 631 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, just make sure it stays anonymous, you know. 632 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I honestly like, I feel like the fact 633 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: that he said he's not interested in dating has nothing 634 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: to do with it at all. The fact that he 635 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: asked to hang out one on one in his house 636 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: is not a professional thing to do at all. 637 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you were like already like besties with that guy, 638 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: which you're not. 639 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: Which you're not. We got to start in like group 640 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: settings first, at the very least. 641 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he asked you about the group card games. Instead 642 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: of being like, guy, come, he was like, yeah, do 643 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: you want to have your own group card game at 644 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: my house? Except we're the only people in the group. Yeah, 645 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: you're playing Solitaire exactly. 646 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: It's so weird. But we do have an update. 647 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: Most hated man in the district. One thing I noticed 648 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: in the original post is that many replies said to 649 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: contact HR immediately. Those comments were pretty out of touch 650 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: with my actual small school system. In a tiny community, 651 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: the chain of command goes from principal then directly to 652 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: superintendent of schools. Also, that means that transferring to another 653 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: school in the district would be out of the question. 654 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: I thought comments telling me to leave or to transfer, 655 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: we're taking it a bit too far. I adore the 656 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: school and I have more self respects than to just 657 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: leave an uncomfortable situation. I received so much encouragement from 658 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: others in my original post. The next day after I 659 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: wrote the post, I left very early for school. I 660 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: arrived before any other teachers were there, and only mister 661 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: s in his office. I left a recorder in my pocket, 662 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: legal in my state, and walked into his office to 663 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: ask if I could speak with him briefly with a 664 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: recorder on. I told him I was very uncomfortable with 665 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: being asked to spend time with you at your home alone. 666 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: He simply said okay, and I left pretty uneventful, but 667 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: I was worried that he would deny it happened when 668 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: I reported him, so I wanted to make sure I 669 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: had something on tape, and you should still keep that 670 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: tape even if he didn't deny it, because he could 671 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: still deny it to others later. So in regards to 672 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: the resolution, I gave a written statement to my superintendent 673 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 3: of schools about the incident. The school system is tiny, 674 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: about six hundred students from p to twelve, so they 675 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: don't have an HR and it's not unusual to go 676 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: directly from principle to a superintendent, no middleman. I won't 677 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: go too much into the discussion, but we came into 678 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: a mutual agreement that it towed the line. He agreed 679 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: to my own suggestion that I should come to him 680 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: as soon as anything else happens. My main concern was 681 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 3: that I would be treated differently after turning him down. 682 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: This actually did happen, which I will get to in. 683 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: A moment, very much to be expected. 684 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that surprised. 685 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: I would have pressed him a little bit more in 686 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: that recording. I would have been like, I was very 687 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: uncomfortable when you did that, And then he goes okay, 688 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: and then you go are you sure that you didn't 689 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: have any other motives? Like are you sure you know bah. 690 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to make it clear that you 691 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 3: understand that that looks exactly what you were denying like. 692 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 3: It looks like you want to date me, right, that 693 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: would be a date essentially. However, I had an unexpected 694 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: turn of events in January and ended up putting in 695 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: my resignation late February. Oh wow, I applied for a 696 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: position closer to my hometown and have now moved back 697 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: home for personal unrelated reasons an illness in the family. 698 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry. 699 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: So I'm actually not in that school anymore, but I 700 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: miss it very much and I hope to go back someday. 701 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 3: Once I had put in my resolution, nothing mister s 702 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: did affected me anymore. He never made another passage and 703 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: stopped talking to me completely. In fact, he stopped talking 704 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: to me at all. 705 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: It was like I didn't exist. 706 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: He began ignoring my discipline, and I didn't even care 707 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 3: since I was leaving in May. 708 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: After the two years of glowing reviews from him. 709 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 3: At the end of the year, he tore me apart 710 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: in my evaluation despite having only been inside my classroom 711 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: once that year. 712 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: I didn't care at all. 713 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's like, how can 714 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: like a lot of times. Yeah, they're not even in 715 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: touch with what's going on. Why does that matter? 716 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: I would only worry that like that would come up 717 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: if you're trying to get future jobs or something. But 718 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: I think with your information in your recording and your 719 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: past evaluations, the situation becomes pretty clear that it was 720 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 3: all feelings based and not He's like one of the 721 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: middle schools's just. 722 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: Like hmm, oh, peace me. 723 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: He's such an ugly little witch. 724 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: Oh he is so mean loser. She doesn't have a 725 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: crush on Yeah. 726 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: I don't even like her anyway. You believes she thought 727 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: it was a dad. I didn't even like her. She 728 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: ugly and boring. It a gross ee knows. 729 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: She's so stupid. You know I'm the smartest boy in town. 730 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, She's probably are you stupid to know. 731 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: She likes me. 732 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 3: At the end of the year, the superintendent asked me 733 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 3: to reconsider staying. He told me how much he admired 734 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 3: the hard work I put into teaching, and he felt 735 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: that they wouldn't find a quality foreign language teacher to 736 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 3: replace me in that small district. I wanted to stay, 737 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: but again I was moving for personal reasons and could not. 738 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 3: The goodbyes were very hard, and there is a little 739 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 3: bit more to this story. 740 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: Do you have any final thoughts? 741 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 3: But Kenny's be fired totally, Honey, needs to be fired totally. 742 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: He's weaponizing his performance reviews. Yeah, he needs to be 743 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: not in a position of authority. 744 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like not doing his job. 745 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 3: He's like filling out these evaluations and stuff, but they're 746 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: not actual evaluations. They're just like diary entries. And then 747 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: that's it, and he's asking out his coworkers. 748 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: Just a perfect example of bureaucracy at its worst. Yep, 749 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: you know, the bureaucracy of the school system, the school administration, 750 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: just a bunch of inept p failing upwards most of 751 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: the time. Sometimes you get good ones and that's nice, 752 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: but wow, bureaucracies are usually filled with incompetent folks. 753 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: Just like this one. There is a little bit more 754 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: to the story, Sam. 755 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: Here, we're gonna get back to the stories. But here's 756 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:15,479 Speaker 1: three of minutes. 757 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: Bads from our sponsors, and now the cherry on top. 758 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 3: The superintendent had been quietly gathering reports and complaints about 759 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 3: the mister S's performance from all of the unhappy teachers. 760 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 3: He met with him before the school year began to 761 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 3: have a meeting about changes and improvements, and he wanted 762 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: to see happen, and mister s just quit on the 763 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 3: spot five days before the school year began. 764 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 2: For teachers. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. There he goes 765 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: trash to hisself. 766 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: Out like a toot in the wind Yep. 767 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 2: Wow, he really left the school high and dry. 768 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: They have not found a replacement principle and are making 769 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 3: it work with the superintendent doubling as his job and 770 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: select staff members stepping in to cover other duties. So 771 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 3: all in all, he is now the most hated man 772 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 3: in the school districts and I don't have to be 773 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 3: there among the madness this year. The superintendent has also 774 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 3: emailed me recently to let me know that I'm welcome 775 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: to come back to the district anytime. 776 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: And that's so lovely, that's so wonderful. 777 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you're the best, and he's the worst. 778 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: He's the worst. And it all worked out well. 779 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: He quit, Yeah, he did. I wish he would have 780 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: got fired, fired, but but then he. 781 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: Would have gone like severance or something. So I'm chill 782 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: with him quitting. 783 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 3: And then how is he gonna like explain that to 784 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 3: his future jobs in his job interviews, it's like, why 785 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: did you leave your last position? Yeah, there really stinky 786 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 3: mean to me, and so I quit because it would 787 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 3: be like. 788 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: There was like a foreign language teacher who was just 789 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: so obsessed with me that it was making my job 790 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: impossible to do without you know, distraction and yeah, diversion, 791 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: and they were you know, it's a whole thing. I 792 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: don't really want to get into it, you know, because 793 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: those people always do that. Yeah, like they they didn't 794 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: get to actually have their fantasy like come true. So 795 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: like now in the future when they're like replaying in 796 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: their head, they're gonna be like, no, no, no, it 797 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: wasn't me who was weird. 798 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't even know how to tell the story 799 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 3: because they are so in denial. 800 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story. 801 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 3: We've got another one coming right up. 802 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: My co teacher became emotionally obsessed with me. 803 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 2: That sounds dangerous. 804 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: I thirty two female, m a second year high school 805 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: teacher and part of a team with two other teachers, 806 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: let's call them Jill twenty nine female and Hannah forty 807 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: one female. I won't specify our subject in case they're 808 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: on Reddit, as the situation is already messy enough. By 809 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: the way, this comes from use a difficult funny three 810 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: to ZHO two And if you want to submit your 811 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: own stories, go to the r slash Showcase story Time. 812 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: Sure it, I'm Dakota, I'm Angie, I'm Carly, and we're 813 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: here to give you good advice Goofily, But we don't 814 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: have all the answers. We only know what we would do, 815 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: so if you would do something different, let us know 816 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: in the comments. Ohp says I started mid year last 817 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: school year, which, if you've ever taught, is an incredibly 818 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: stressful experience, made even harder by the fact that it 819 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: was my first time teaching in public school. From the start, 820 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: I got off on the wrong foot with Hannah. I 821 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: don't know if she felt threatened by me or was 822 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: just wary of newcomers, but she made it clear she 823 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: had a problem with me before even getting to know me. 824 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: For context, Hannah did some pretty petty things like telling 825 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: my students I didn't know how to teach my subject 826 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: and even spreading a rumor that I pop pills because 827 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: she once saw me take my prescribed medication during my 828 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: off period. I wasn't even thinking about it at the time, 829 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: why would I, But her comments, along with other petty behavior, 830 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: eventually got back to me. That's actually insane. Yeah. Can 831 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: you imagine suggesting that was just like saying that to students? Yeah, 832 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: be like yeah, missus op pill popper, strange thing. Yeah. 833 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: Since I'm a direct person, I confronted her. I made 834 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: it clear that if I heard her speaking negatively about 835 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: me again, she was going to have a problem. And honestly, 836 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: after that, she backed off and we're actually cool now. Ironically, 837 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: though this story is about Jill. At first, Jill was 838 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: warm and welcoming. We bonded quickly, probably too quickly, forming 839 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: what I now recognize as a trauma bonded friendship. I 840 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: was grateful to have a friend when I was struggling 841 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: to find my footing, especially with Hannah actively trying to 842 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: sabotage me in that time. We shared a lot. I'm 843 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: naturally an open person. I'll tell you anything, and I 844 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: don't shy away from discussing my past, which includes childhood trauma, 845 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: serious medical issues, and loss. I've been in and out 846 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: of therapy my whole adult life, and was just as 847 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: open with Jill as I would be with anyone. She 848 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: also shared a lot about her own traumatic past, and 849 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 1: we bonded over that. But there were red flags. At first, 850 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: they were small things that brushed off. She seemed to 851 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: struggle with controlling her emotions. She'd get jealous if a 852 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: student to me for help instead of her. She'd start 853 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: the day crying, saying she hadn't slept. If I spoke 854 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: to Hannah about work related things, she'd feel excluded. I 855 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: was patient and reassuring at first, thinking she just suffered 856 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: from anxiety and self consciousness. Because I could see she 857 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 1: was struggling. I shared my psychiatrist's information, suggested medication might 858 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: help since it had helped me, and even invited her 859 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: to church. She accepted all of this willingly, but as 860 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 1: time went on, her behavior escalated. One major red flag 861 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: was when she told me she had no friends at 862 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: all outside of me. You just got there, though, hmm. 863 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: I was blunt with her. I told her that wasn't 864 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: healthy and that she needed to put herself out there. 865 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: I even expressed that it concerned me because I couldn't 866 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: be someone's everything. I'm a wife and mother. And she 867 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: still lives at home with her parents. We were at 868 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: very different stages in life, but she quickly started calling 869 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: me her best friend. I made sure to clarify that 870 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 1: while I have a solid group of longtime best friends, 871 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: I was always open to new friendships. But that didn't 872 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: seem to deter her. By the end of last year 873 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: and through summer, I was still her cheerleader. We cried together, 874 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: laughed together, and even spent time outside of work, but 875 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: I started feeling emotionally drained. Her constant anxiety and stress 876 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: were triggering my own. When the new school year started, 877 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: she was worse than ever. She wasn't sleeping, constantly crying, 878 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: and seemed angry all the time. I found out she 879 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: had met someone online over the summer and it wasn't 880 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: working out. You wanted to talk about it constantly. Every 881 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 1: conversation for weeks revolved around it. I tried to be patient, 882 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: but eventually I told her I was done discussing it. 883 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: I had given all the advice I could. She needed 884 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: to move on. At this point, she had started medication 885 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: from the psychiatrist I recommended, but wasn't seeing a therapist. 886 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: I told her plainly, I'm in a season of my 887 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: life where I need to be equally yoked in friendships, 888 00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: equally jacked, equally staff goop dup my friendships to be shreded. 889 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 1: I believe she is referring to the olden use of 890 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: the word yoked, more like a yoke on, like an 891 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: ox equally yoked. I think it's like we're working equally. 892 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: We're all wearing the same pair of pants. I don't know. 893 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm not a farmer. 894 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 2: Where's good old etymology Riley? 895 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: I know he wasn't a farmer either, but he had goats. Sure, Ope, 896 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: he continues. That might sound selfish, but I need people 897 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: who can pour into me the way I pour into them. 898 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: I reminded her that I wasn't her mentor big sister 899 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: or a therapist. I could be her friend, but that 900 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: was it. This led to our first real confrontation. Things 901 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: got awkward, but we eventually settled back into a routine. 902 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: Though I was pulling back, I was emotionally exhausted. As 903 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: I distanced myself, she became more reactive and she'd tell 904 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: me I was being cold or aggressive. Another big moment 905 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: happened when I finally told her some of the behaviors 906 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: that made me uncomfortable. I know I have my own 907 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: issues and I can be blunt, but I also have 908 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: great friends and former co workers who I still have 909 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: strong relationships with. Sometime, spending forty hours a week with 910 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: someone just creates friction. One time, she told me she 911 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: wasn't sleeping because of demonic dreams. Since we had already 912 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: shared religious experiences, I suggested she see a priest or 913 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: someone who could help. In hindsight, I understand why she 914 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: took offense, but I genuinely wasn't trying to be insulting. 915 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: Then came the late night texts. She would send me 916 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: long emotional messages in the middle of the night about 917 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: how I had hurt her feelings. The first time, I 918 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: firmly told her not to do that again. It wasn't 919 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: okay to drop triggering messages on me before we had 920 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: to work together the next day, but she kept doing it. 921 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: I put the lego in front of you because I 922 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: block you. Yeah, well, I guess those are bricks not blocks. 923 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 2: Get your lego knowledge right. I'm telling Keon, gonna tell 924 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 2: Kets for this show. 925 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 3: But I did kind of wonder if this girl would 926 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 3: like be an ear for Ope's problems. But it really 927 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 3: does sound like she's just complaining to OPI and not 928 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 3: really being there for op. Ohp, he's just being there 929 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 3: for her, which I mean, OP kind of confirmed, I guess. 930 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 2: With like the equal yoke stuff. 931 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 3: When it comes to feelings, A lot of times, you know, 932 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 3: if someone says something and it hurts someone else's feelings, 933 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 3: that is in the wrong. 934 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 2: That's wrong. You shouldn't hurt someone's feelings. 935 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,919 Speaker 3: This situation feels like, you know, your feelings probably got hurt. 936 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 2: Not my fault. 937 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 3: I can't really control your feelings. I was right in 938 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 3: what I was saying. I believe in what I was saying. 939 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 3: I think I was going about it in a good way. 940 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 3: I think it's good that I'm being honest. 941 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 2: It's just a coincidence, I guess, or it's just your 942 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 2: issue that your feelings got hurt in the situation. 943 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, it's John Ogi host here. We're gonna get 944 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: back to the stories, but here's a quick three minute 945 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: break from as for more sponsors. OPI continues. It all 946 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: built up until she sent another li night message and 947 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: I snapped. I talked to my husband and friends and 948 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: they all told me this person seemed emotionally unwell and 949 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: that I needed to cut ties. So I did. I 950 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: texted her Jill, I'm done. I can't keep doing this. 951 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: But a few days later she came to my room 952 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: wanting to talk. She seemed genuinely self reflective, and we 953 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: both agreed to move forward. But things were never quite 954 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: the same. It was still tense and with occasional outbursts 955 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: from her. I was trying to be patient, especially since 956 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: she was now dealing with a serious family illness. And 957 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: then yesterday happened. After our boss left. She accused me 958 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: of taking credit for something she did. I was honestly 959 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: confused because it was such a trivial thing, something we 960 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: had all worked on as a team, and I wasn't 961 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: nice about it. I snapped sorry in a rude tone 962 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: and walked away. I was just done. Then today everything exploded. 963 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: A student asked me for something and I said no. 964 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: They responded, I'll just go ask Jill. I half joking, 965 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: we said, go ahead, she's a pushover. She'll probably give 966 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: it to you. Ha ha. I didn't mean it maliciously, 967 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: but I shouldn't have said it. Well. The student ran 968 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: to her and told her. He stormed into my room, 969 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: yelling at me in front of the student that I 970 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: was rude and shouldn't call her a pushover. I was 971 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: still caught off guard that I started shaking and had 972 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: to sit down. Who PTSD triggers. She stormed out, and 973 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: when the bell rang for lunch, she came back to 974 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: tell me something I'm related. I said, Hey, we need 975 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,439 Speaker 1: to talk about what just happened. You can't run into 976 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: my room yelling like that. You didn't even give me 977 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: a chance to explain. That's when she fully unloaded every 978 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: ounce of pent up resentment. She called me mean, accused 979 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: me of taking credit for things all the time, and 980 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: finally yelled, you're mean. 981 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 2: I don't like you. 982 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: I don't like you. I just don't like you. 983 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, she yelled, I don't like you. I don't 984 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 2: like you. I don't like you. 985 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: She put her fingers in her ears and said, I 986 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: don't like you. I to like him. 987 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 2: That's crazy. She's an adult. 988 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: Why is she first well, yelling in the workplace, second 989 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 3: of all, yelling that at all? 990 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 2: That is so insane, sounds so mature. 991 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just be like, are you sure you 992 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: don't like me? Oh? 993 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 2: Really? 994 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: Are you sure? You don't like me. You said I 995 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: was your best team. 996 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, you said I was your only friend. Actually you're 997 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 3: not my only friend. Definitely not my best team. 998 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: She then ran back into her room. I just sat there, 999 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 1: completely drained. I cried through lunch, tried to hold it 1000 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: together for the rest of the day, but broke down 1001 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: again during my last period. I'm so exhausted. I don't 1002 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: even know what to do anymore. My husband thinks I 1003 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 1: should just go tell our boss, but I feel like 1004 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 1: I'm just as culpable. I know if I do that, 1005 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: I will just be spitting in our grave. However, I 1006 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: don't know if that's the wisest thing to do to 1007 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 1: protect myself. It's just all really unfortunate, and I feel 1008 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: a lot of it, most of it on her part, 1009 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: is just her being constantly triggered and reacting to those feelings. 1010 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: And that's the end of that story. And you can 1011 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: say that to your boss. Hey, go, Look, I just 1012 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: don't think me and Jill are gonna work well together 1013 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: because she's got a lot of emotional stuff she's going 1014 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: through and I'm not equipped to be there for her 1015 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: in that capacity, and it feels like she is putting 1016 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: me in a place of obligation to where if I 1017 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: can't show up for her in that way, I'm now 1018 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: a villainy. I already gave her a psychiatrist. Yeah, and 1019 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: now she you know whatever, Like things are getting bad 1020 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: between us. We need some sort of degree of separation. 1021 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: Totally, totally, motally, totally totally. That is the end of 1022 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 2: the story. 1023 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: Is that is the end of that story? End? 1024 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 2: Do you have some comments? 1025 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 4: Comments are from the video my best friend kicked me 1026 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 4: out of her wedding posted on August twenty second, twenty 1027 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 4: five tld. Opie's friend Charlotte ironically. 1028 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: Had no way. Yeah, another one. 1029 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 4: Charlotte asked her to wear a white dress to her wedding, 1030 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 4: even picking it out herself. At the wedding, Charlotte screamed 1031 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 4: at op for wearing white and punted her out, saying 1032 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 4: it was a friendship test. When OPI threatened to expose 1033 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 4: the truth, Charlotte's husband tried to hit on her. As 1034 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 4: an apology, OPI posted proof on Facebook showing that Charlotte 1035 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 4: set her up on purpose, and now everyone knows. The 1036 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 4: bride wore blue while tricking her friend into wearing white 1037 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 4: just to humiliate her. And I do vaguely remember this story. 1038 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: I don't remember that, but I gotta say, you never 1039 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: wear white to the wedding. That was a trap. Should 1040 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: have known that was a trap. You go, I don't 1041 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: care if you want me to wear this white dress. 1042 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear it's your wedding. You're crazy, that's crazy. 1043 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: But then she'd be like, you passed. 1044 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 3: But the fact that she's doing some sort of tests 1045 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,760 Speaker 3: on her friend at all is insane. 1046 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 4: Comment to one Opie nineteen ninety seven. It sounds like 1047 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 4: the bride just wanted some kind of memorable drama at 1048 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 4: her wedding. Opie didn't ruin the wedding, but she just 1049 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 4: took the drama bait. Bride would have been super disappointed 1050 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 4: if Opie didn't wear the white dress. 1051 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: Yeah right, what do you mean? She would have been 1052 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: so happy. She'd have been like, oh, my best friend, 1053 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: I found you now I know that you're my best 1054 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: didn't wear the dress. 1055 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 4: It was all a test and Commenter two a mid 1056 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 4: Moon ninety five. My cousin told all of the women 1057 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 4: of her wedding to wear a satin dress and asked 1058 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 4: me to see the only dress I had. It was 1059 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 4: a big red ball gown and she was over the 1060 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 4: moon telling. 1061 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 2: Me to use it. 1062 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 4: I told her, I love you, but that is not 1063 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 4: appropriate for the wedding. 1064 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 2: I will get a. 1065 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,800 Speaker 4: New dress and it's not even in the color Pellette. 1066 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 4: Good thing that I ignored her because my dress wouldn't 1067 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 4: even fit in the venue space and everyone would have 1068 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 4: tripped over or damaged it. Most of all, I would 1069 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 4: have been the only one out of theme. 1070 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be embarrassing. 1071 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 4: Ali Zoo forty seven to fifty five. Anyone giving a 1072 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,760 Speaker 4: friendship test isn't mature enough to get married. If OPI 1073 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 4: has any proof that Bridezilla asked her to wear that dress, 1074 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 4: she needs to make it public. In any case, she 1075 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 4: needs to block them all and also show literal receipts 1076 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 4: from the two hundred and fifty dollars she gave for 1077 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 4: the wedding. Good luck to the groom, and it to 1078 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 4: add nevermind they deserve each other. 1079 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 2: I think the groom ended up sucking too. 1080 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 5: I see, I see, Oh yeah, I mean the fact 1081 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 5: that he tried to apologize by hitting on her pretty crazy. 1082 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 5: It's like, I'm so sorry, so sorry girl for my 1083 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 5: crazy wife. 1084 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 2: But like you shouldn't feel like because you're so hot. 1085 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: My wife is probably just acting like this because you're 1086 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 1: so hot and delicious. I wish that I was marrying you. 1087 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 4: In last comment Sherry mulliv Thompson eighty three, eighty eight, 1088 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 4: Uh and OPI asking about the dress negated any perceived 1089 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 4: need for a friendship test. This person took that opportunity 1090 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 4: to put her in a no win situation. Wearing the 1091 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 4: dress got the offended response, and I am almost positive 1092 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 4: that not wearing the dress would have gotten you the 1093 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 4: don't trust me response. There was no equal ground on 1094 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 4: this one. 1095 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's crazy all round. She exposed herself 1096 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: as someone you don't want to be friends with. Yeah, congrats, 1097 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,479 Speaker 1: you don't have to ever be friends with that lame 1098 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: o again, yeap, And you can move on, you know, 1099 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: onwards and. 1100 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 2: Upwards, onwards. 1101 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: And it happens to everyone. Everyone has a friend where 1102 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 1: they're like, this is my friend and then at some 1103 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 1: point they go, oh, no it's not. 1104 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story and episode. 1105 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 2: Then all right, So if you love us, make sure 1106 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 2: to subscribe 1107 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: We love you, and see it tomorrow.