1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It's that time 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 2: of weak. My name is Bernie Fradlewer comedy line from 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: the tyrac dot com studios Fox Sports Radio here in 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: La Vegas, Nevada. Tyrack dot com. We'll help you get there. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Don max selection fast for you, shipping, free, road hazard 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: protection and over ten thousand recommended installers tyrack dot com. 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be absolute jam Pack show. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: Tonight we covered all. Larry Sorenson joins us in fifteen 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: minutes talk about this college realignment deal. He should know 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: a thing or two. He played the Big Ten and 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: he's a broadcaster in the acc of course, Mark Medina 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: Midnight Magic. But here, look, we got so much to 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: get to. Rather than a rundown, I want to dive 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 2: into something because college football is back, and don't tell 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: me you're not glad it's here. And it's not just 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: the game, betting, the game, the game in the field, 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: et cetera. It's gonna be there's gonna be human interest stories, 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: and there's gonna be surprises, and there's gonna be memories, 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 2: and there's gonna be highlights, and there's gonna be expectations 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: and disappointments and expecting the unexpected. There's gonna be all 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: of that. And even though today week zero is it 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: you optimal in terms of stellar matchups. It's kind of 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: like if your buddy invites you over to his house 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: to have a pizza. Yeah, great, I wonder what he's 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: gonna have Deep Dish, Chicago Deep Dish, or maybe we'll 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: have New York Pizza, whatever the case may be. And 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: you get there and he's got a frozen pizza. You're 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: not pissed. You're gonna eat it. You you shouldn't complain. 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: You may be slightly disappointed. You know it's not the 31 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: real deal, but you're gonna eat it. Frozen pizza tastes 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: pretty good. Right Well, that's kind of like what week 33 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: zero is. And even in week zero, you still got 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: notable events. I watched a lot of football today, took 35 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: a lot of notes today. And by the way, interesting 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: when we talked to Larry and fifty minutes he covered 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: Sam Hartman for three years at wake Forest, saw nothing. 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: He only threw one hundred and ten touchdown passes there 39 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: through four more today and that's where we start. Now, 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: there's no such thing as winners and losers in Week 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: zero on college football, but there are some notable events 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: and some selected achievements. I think you've got to look at. Okay, 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: the reason this story. I'm glad Notre Dame played Week zero. 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: Pretty cool event in Dublin. There the moment Sam Hartman 45 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: committed to Notre Dame. And again you know you saw 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: what he did at Wake Forest for Dave Clawson. All 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: of a sudden, there are expectations in Notre Dame. Again, 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: so far, so good. Hartman completely dominated this first game 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: of the Irish forty two to three blowout, completed fourteen 50 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: to sixteen, one hundred and ninety six yards. It was 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: a man against boys. He could have gotten worse. Notre 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: Dame's got a long season ahead. But I will tell 53 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: you based on what I saw today, not that it 54 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: can't change Hartman does give the eye is your real 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: chance of being a national threat. There're gonna be some 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: speed bumps, Ohio State. I thought Notre Dame looked better 57 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: than USC. I think you're better on both sides of 58 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: the ball, not maybe offensively with Kayleb Williams. But I'll 59 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: tell you what that'll be fun to watch the other 60 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: side of the coin there. I have always greatly respected 61 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: the Service Academy and their football programs and how competitive 62 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: they are. Air Force has always been competitive, so has 63 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: and typically so as Navy an Army. Maybe the last 64 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: three four years it's been rough, all right. Notre Dame 65 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: was a pretty big, big, you know, pretty big favorite. 66 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: Twenty one points, right, and before the seats were warm, 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: it was twenty one nothing out. This game was thirty 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: five thirty two last year, and Notre Dame went with 69 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: a new coach. They hired a new guy by the 70 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: name of Brian Newberry Cup maybe Brian Nuby. I think 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: he played his collin football at Baylor. See what I 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: did there, Nuby? All right, that's not gonna stick. Forget it. 73 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: Here's here's what bugged me today. All right, Navy's down 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: twenty one nothing, and just as they're you know, the 75 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: first half is winding down, they put together a pretty 76 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: nice eight minute drive. They get just inside the red zone, 77 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they face a fourth and four. Now, 78 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: I think the prior coach would have gone for it, 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: because you're down twenty one to nothing. It's the first 80 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: game of the year, and you're you know, you're breaking 81 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: them a bit of a new offense as well. But 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: what do they do? They decide to kick a field goal? 83 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: Whooped the damn do so? That makes you twenty one 84 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: to three. You're set to receive the second half kickoff. 85 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: What are you doing here? All right? That doesn't help 86 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: you a whole hell of a lot. But you finish 87 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: off that drive and you go into the locker room 88 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: at halftime, different dynamic. But they didn't. They didn't. You 89 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: know what happened next to that point? Notre Dame. It's 90 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: scoring a touchdown, touchdown, touchdown on their only three drives. 91 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: Field goals ain't gonna cut it, Brian. You can't really 92 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: bring field goals to a touchdown fight, right, You can't 93 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: bring or peachhooter or do a gunfight. That's what he did. 94 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: And it's not that the choice determined the outcome. I 95 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: get it. It may not have mattered if they'd have 96 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: gotten a touchdown or not they missed the field goal. 97 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: What mattered was how conservative they looked. And this is 98 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: not the day time to do that kind of stuff. 99 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: That bugged me. Caleb Williams and USC well as advertised 100 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: USC puts up a fifty six burger over San Jose State. 101 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams two hundred and eighty five yards, four touchdowns, 102 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: He engineered eight possessions, scored touchdowns on six of them. 103 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: So this is a guy. Now. No one's won the 104 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy back to back years and forty years. Archie 105 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Manning did it at Ohio State. I think the voters 106 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: get voter fatigue. Do I think you win the Heisman? 107 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: No? 108 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: I don't. Could he have a Heisman worthy year? Absolutely, 109 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: and it started doing it. I thought Caleb Williams looked awesome. 110 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 2: I don't know that I can. Jason Martin brought up 111 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: a great point. You don't over react a weak one, 112 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: you don't, But I wasn't. I don't love USC's defense. 113 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: I mean, what's to love, you know? Please explain that 114 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: to me. I just wanted to see something different, and 115 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: I don't know what I wanted to see, but I 116 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 2: didn't see it. I'll tell you that. How about Jacksonville State? 117 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: They make the jump to FBS. By the way, guess 118 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: who they're head coaches? Wrong? It's Rich Rodriguez of Michigan 119 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: Fame of Michigan Infamy as it were welcome to the party, 120 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: pal Jacksonville State their first ever contest as a member 121 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: of the Football Bowl Subdivision. Well, and they're the game Cocks, 122 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: by the way, for going at home. So should they 123 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: end up playing South Carolina someday? Bet the game Cocks 124 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: and you'll go away happy. See what I did there. 125 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: That's not gonna that's not gonna stick either. All right, newcomers, 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: Well they clip UTAP seventeen fourteen in an ESPN Instant Classic, Right, 127 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: Melick Jackson, Maybe he'll be a household name. Rush for 128 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: seventy six yards. Blah blah blah, Jacksonville State. Unfortunately, stupid 129 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: or roll, they're not eligible for postseason play for like 130 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: four years. But you win that first game. Not that 131 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: one of the games that a lot of better is. 132 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: I think the pros run Ohio. They visited San Diego State. 133 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: I did not touch this game. I like the under boy, 134 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: that was a beauty. You'd like to have more like that. 135 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: I did play the under It was under forty eight 136 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: and a half. Get it up twenty to thirteen. Ohio 137 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: is a very good team. The MAX is a very 138 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: good conference. That game started out to be a good 139 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 2: fistfight in the phone booth. Unfortunately, Ohio's quarterback Curtis Rourke, 140 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: who was coming off at ACL last November, he recovered 141 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: in time to play against San Diego State. He leaves 142 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: the contest with an unspecified injury, and believe me, they 143 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: missed him. They brought in a backup named CJ. Harris. 144 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: He threw three picks. They missed a thirty one yard 145 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: field goal in the third quarter. Ohio was game, but 146 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: they just want themselves as it were. But Ohio has 147 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: the potential to win the BAC. I believe little disappointment. 148 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: You would have expected to get more out of their offense. 149 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: U Mass was a really trendy play among sharp betters. 150 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: They opened up at plus ten, it got back down 151 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: to seven. I talked about this last night with Rolph Michaels. 152 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: He brought up some good points. If you're not familiar 153 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: with U Mass football, here's a quick primer for you. 154 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen they were one and eleven. The COVID year, 155 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: they were zero and four. Twenty twenty one, they were 156 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: one and eleven. Twenty twenty two, Yeah, you guess it. 157 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: They were one and eleven. Got to admire their consistency. 158 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: That's three and thirty seven in the last four years. 159 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: So when you begin the season with a victory, yeah, 160 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: that's worth the celebration that follows. Give it up to 161 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: the UMass Minutmen. Three takeaways, four hundred and sixty eight 162 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: yards on offense, and they beat down. They beat an 163 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: Okay Mexico New Mexico State team forty one to thirty. 164 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: The bottom line is the value of a win. It 165 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: can't be understated. U MASS themselves just joined the FBS 166 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: ten years ago. Now week zero the only time you 167 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: hear about UMass all year but for day, for today. 168 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: Take your victory, Latin guys. It was a really terrific effort. 169 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: I went back and forth. I watched a lot of 170 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: that game, watched a lot of about five games todays. 171 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: Really I really enjoyed it. Like I said, frozen pizza, 172 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: Hey man, it'll do in a pinch, and football is back. 173 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: Look for the human interest stores as surprises, the memories, 174 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: the highlights, and yes, expect the unexpected. 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Welcome in a gentlemen, 198 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: ten year major leaguer, twenty five year broadcast career, currently 199 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: color analysts for wake Forest football and baseball, and also 200 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: did his college times playing time in the Big Ten, 201 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: so fits nicely for the subject matter we've got tonight's 202 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: say Hello, Larry Sorenson. Larry, how are you, buddy? 203 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 4: Bernie? 204 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you as always, and I, Larry, 205 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 2: I want to start. I want to give you your flowers. 206 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: Wake Forest gets to the finals of the College World Series. 207 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: You're a whisker away from knocking off lsu. I had 208 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: planned to have you on the next night. And then, 209 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: of course that's baseball. But congratulations on an not standing year. 210 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun. They had ten players drafted, 211 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: so there was a lot of talent, a lot of 212 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: great players. They've moved on and they've reloaded picked up 213 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: Chase Burns from Tennessee, who might be the first player 214 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: taking in the draft this year. Nick Kurtz might be 215 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: the first player taking in the draft this year, so 216 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: they should be stacked up pretty well again. 217 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: And of course your pitching staff sets up quite nicely. 218 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: So I think you guys would be right back next year, contending. 219 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: That it's gonna be fun. Got to get through football first. 220 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: That's right, And it is football season, and I'm guessing. 221 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 2: And of course you know Sam Hartman personally and covered 222 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: them for three years, watching him throw one hundred and 223 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: ten touchsdown passes. Did you get a chance to sample 224 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: the game today against Navy? Yeah? 225 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: I did tune in because Sam was a great kid 226 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: the entire time that he was here away forth saw 227 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: him come in as a freshman and play his entire 228 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 3: career here and a terrific athlete, but a really good 229 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: kid and a magnificent leader. 230 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: This is the fourth year. 231 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 3: In a row that he's been captain of a football team, 232 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: which I think really speaks volumes for the character of. 233 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 5: The young man. 234 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 2: Wow. So he was actually captain as a freshman that 235 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: wake four. 236 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 3: Well, he played he played five. He played five years 237 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: here and he was magnificent. Moved into the starting role 238 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: right away as a freshman with some different changes that 239 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: they had going on, then was red shirted the next year, 240 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: so it was really an interesting progression. I think the 241 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: one thing that one story I remember about Sam was 242 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: we were doing a fan fest and it had rained, 243 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: so we were underneath the stands and the football team 244 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: came in and they were all wandering around and Sam 245 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: was with the freshman class. They were about twenty of 246 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: them together and they were wondering what to do next, 247 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 3: and Sam said, let's go here, and as a group, 248 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: every single player just followed Sam. Even as a freshman, 249 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: he was the guy that took over, and people believed 250 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: what he said and followed. 251 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: Him and every move that he made. 252 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 3: So quite an impressive young man. 253 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can certainly see it in his body language 254 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: and his physical attitude. He's got that heddle present. Sorry, Larry. 255 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: One of the things I really wanted to talk about 256 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: in depth tonight. I think you're uniquely qualified to talk 257 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: about it because you played in the Big Ten and 258 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 2: now you work in the ACC. Give me your synopsis 259 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 2: and your reaction as to what's taking place with respect 260 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 2: to this massive realignment. 261 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 3: Well, you know, Bernie, a lot of it. I'm a fan, 262 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: just like everybody else out there. I played at Michigan, 263 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: so I follow Michigan and that's a story for another day, 264 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: but you know, I follow Michigan, and I wanted to 265 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: go to Michigan State. So I follow Michigan State. And 266 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: the greatest thing to me was about every month, every 267 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: Sunday morning Monday morning, talking to friends and talking about 268 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: the rivalry and talking about the games and what happened, 269 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: and the closeness of the league that you played against 270 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: and you knew the players on other teams. You knew 271 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: who was starting for Ohio State, and you knew what 272 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 3: was going on all at Iowa and you paid attention. Now, 273 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: there's giving to be so many teams, they're so stretched 274 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: out you don't play them every year. But I think 275 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: we've lost a lot of that, and it's just become 276 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: We've become very cynical as fans. They're just another game, 277 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: you know. There's just not as much special about the 278 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: games to me, and I hate to see that happen. 279 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: And I hate to see what they're making the student 280 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: athletes do in order to play some of those games. 281 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: Yes, we're going to get to that second. First, what 282 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: makes college and let's just stick with football for purposes 283 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: of this, But what makes it so great are the 284 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: rivalries because they give it texture and they give it meaning, 285 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: and they give it significance and context. And we're finding 286 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: out Oklahoma and Oklahoma State might not play anymore, you know, 287 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: Betler might not happen. So how about Michigan Michigan State 288 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: if we get down the road four years, Larry, is 289 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: there any chance that potentially goes away the in state 290 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: rival Oh? 291 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I don't think there's any doubts that it could 292 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: go away because in the ACC now they've gone to 293 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: three permanent rivals, and so wake Forest will play Georgia Tech, 294 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: they played Duke, and they played Virginia Tech. 295 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 5: And I believe that the. 296 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: North Carolina State Wake Forest rivalry is the longest had 297 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: been the longest running rivalry in college football, and they're 298 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: not going to play next year. So it's just crazy. 299 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: They've taken a lot away in that respect about who 300 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: you cheer for, how you cheer for them, and it's 301 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: really changed. And granted, Bernie, you and I are older, 302 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: you know, and so we enjoy remember the old days. 303 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: But there's still a lot to be said for NC State, 304 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: who is an hour and ten minutes down the road 305 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: from Wake Forest, instead of USC playing Penn State, or 306 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: USC playing Indiana or whatever the case may be. 307 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: Talking with Larry Soawrenson ten. You Major League played his 308 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: Michigan played baseball at Michigan in the Big Ten. Commentating 309 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: now in the ACC all right, I want you to 310 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: talk about the student athlete. This is important. I think 311 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: Larry and my college baseball career, we flew twice. That's it. Now. Well, 312 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: you know everything four hours or less than everything by bus. 313 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: And you know I was not a good student my 314 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: first two years. I get back, I'd sleep in I misclass. 315 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: What the hell, I'll make it up next year. Right. 316 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: The bottom line is I do all you can do 317 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: that now, But what's going to happen. We talked about 318 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: this in the phone last week. It brought up some 319 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: great points. You've got to find academic institution like Wake Forest. 320 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: If the volleyball team happens to have a game at 321 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: Stanford because the a SEC is talking about adding Stanford, 322 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: you fly back late. Talk about the imposition on the 323 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: student athlete from your vantage point. 324 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: Well, in Winston Salem they call it workfor us, and 325 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: they don't play around the other day they open up 326 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: their brand new football complex locker room and they put 327 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: about thirty eight million dollars into it. They have four 328 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: players that represented the football team they had seven college 329 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: degrees between the four players, and the fourth guy was 330 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: working on his masters and he'll have it at the 331 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: end of the year, so you graduate. Over ninety five 332 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 3: percent of the players at wait Forrest graduate, and that's 333 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: what they do. I remember during baseball season, Brock Wilkin, 334 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: the nineteenth player taking in the draft, miss batting practice 335 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 3: because his professor called a Sunday exam or a Saturday exam, 336 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: and it was a six o'clock game. It was a 337 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: two o'clock exam. Wilkin had to go take it and 338 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: he came running out about four point thirty, ran down 339 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: to the cage in the center field and was hitting 340 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: off the pitching to off the hitting coach in the 341 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: center field shot. So they don't let you miss class, 342 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: they don't let you miss exams. You go and they 343 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 3: monitor at the football team in particular, monitors it extremely closely. 344 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: So if you have to go to Stanford and you 345 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: have to play a game a basketball game on a 346 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: Tuesday night, you take the red eye back. You get 347 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 3: back at five in the morning. If you've got a 348 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: nine o'clock class, they. 349 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 5: Expect you to be there. 350 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: And I think that we're doing a disservice to our 351 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: athletes putting the kinds of pressures on them academically at 352 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: some places, you know, other places maybe not as much 353 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: you're expected to go, but there's a lot of schools 354 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: where you still have to go to your classes. It 355 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what time that flight got in the night before. 356 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: Right. No, No, you raise a very challenging logistical issue. 357 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: And let's talk about acc expansion. I understand the conversations 358 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: every NWED. They're strongly considering Stanford and col and maybe 359 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: even SMU and they might have been vote short before, 360 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: but they might be getting closer. Have you heard anything 361 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: from Jim Fildmas, What are your thoughts? Could these could 362 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: these come to fruition? 363 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: Well? I went to I think that the wild card 364 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: is that they're getting the presidents involved in the presidentcy 365 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: dollar signs and academic reputations. And they say, yeah, that'd 366 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: be great because since they're not going to take their 367 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: money for the first seven years and we get their money, 368 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: we get to split it up. Thanks, what do you 369 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 3: do to the league now of the Atlantic Coast Conference? 370 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 3: You're going coast to coast with the with the conference, 371 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 3: and it's just a huge difference and yeah, the money's 372 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 3: going to be great for the first seven years, You're 373 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 3: still going to trail the SEC. 374 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 5: You're still going to. 375 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: Trail the big ten in the amount of dollars that 376 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: you can raise. But there are some schools that are 377 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 3: seeing the dollar signs a lot more than the pitfalls 378 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 3: that are going to come along with it. 379 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: Arguably, the two biggest brands from a commercial standpoy At 380 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: Florida State and Clemson are unhappy with the financial arrangement 381 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: in the ACC. How problematic has that been? How much 382 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: pressure is that putting on the conference? 383 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: It puts a lot of pressure on them because they 384 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: are far and away the biggest brands, and they've got 385 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: the nationwide appeal that obviously Awake Forest doesn't have. The 386 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: Wake Forest has got the smallest undergrad student body in 387 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: the Power five conferences fifty fifty two hundred undergrad students, 388 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: so it's hard to compete. You could take the entire 389 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: Living Wake Forest alumni group and it wouldn't fill up 390 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: three quarters of the big ten stadiums. There's only about 391 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: seventy five thousand living graduate But when you when you 392 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: start talking about how to spread up, spread out the money, 393 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: it comes out equally under the grant rights that they've 394 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: got right now in the Florida States, and the clubs 395 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 3: who say, if you want us to compete with USC 396 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: or you want us to compete with Alabama Georgia and football, 397 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: then we've got to have more money and the funnies. 398 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: The funniest thing is is that when you break it up, 399 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: and they're talking about doing it based on performance in 400 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: bowl games and so on and so forth, I've seen 401 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 3: some of the charts and Florida State doesn't come out 402 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 3: that well from the last decade or so. Yeah, so 403 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 3: it's kind of ironic that that's the way they're talking 404 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: about splitting up. Wait, Forest went down there and smoked 405 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: Florida State. 406 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: Yes here it. 407 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: Is in Tallahassee. 408 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: Well, and you guys opened up Thursday night against Elon, 409 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: not Elon, musk Elon. But before we get to that, actually, 410 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: I definitely want to get you honest. The season goes on. Larry. 411 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: You've been involved in a unique futuristic for a couple 412 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: of years now'll called pitch logic. Bring people up to date. 413 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 2: Because baseball tenancies up nine percent, TV ratings are up, 414 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: games are twenty five minutes shorter. The average fan is back, 415 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: they're enjoying baseball, and so new fangled concepts like pitch 416 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: logic are getting a lot bigger audience. 417 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, you know what, I think we just have 418 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: to keep in mind that's part of the reason that 419 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: baseball is up is because it's gone back to some 420 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: of the old habits that they had, where the games 421 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 3: are faster and the pace is much much better. And 422 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 3: what pitch logic is is a tool that has sensors 423 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 3: inside of a baseball and it's major league leather wrapped 424 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: around a foll of your thank core with a circuit 425 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: board inside that gives you all the data that they're 426 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: using in the to learn the art of pitching and 427 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 3: the skill of pitching these days. And for a very 428 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: reasonable price. Instead of a really expensive permanent type machines 429 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: that you have to wheel out and measure and insert 430 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: into your stadiums, you can just take a baseball in 431 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 3: your telephone and buy Bluetooth can to get your spin 432 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: rates and your velocity obviously, but your arm flots, the 433 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: spin direction of the baseball, and all the different kinds 434 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: of information that are being used to teach pitching these days. 435 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: It's a phenomenal tool, and it's very easy to use, 436 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: and it's used by kids from litly all the way 437 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: to major leaguers. Had the rush one to a big 438 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 3: leaguer the other night, and he was going down on 439 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 3: rehab and he wanted to have one at their minor 440 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 3: league facility and his organization didn't have any, so he 441 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: wanted to take his own with him, and he needed 442 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: some new baseball to get down there. 443 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: Web Larry, great stuff, and listen. I know you're in 444 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: the Eastern time zone. I always appreciate you carving on time. 445 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: I know you're a busy guy. Good luck this season 446 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: with Wake Forest Football. Love to get you on again 447 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: as the season goes on. 448 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: Bunny, it's going to be a great college football season. 449 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: We were happy for Sam Harmon. Hard to be happy 450 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 3: for Notre Dame, but happy for Sam Harmon. It's going 451 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: to be a great college football season. 452 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: It is. You guys have been right in the middle 453 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: of it again. Good luck Coach Clawson. 454 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 5: Thanks Ning all right. 455 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 2: It's Larry Sorenson. Ten year major leaguer pitched for the 456 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: University of Michigan. They were Big Ten champs and he's 457 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: now in the ACC and has some thoughts and we'll 458 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: see where this goes. We're a little bit of uncharted territory, 459 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: as are running backs. Now. I know that Josh Jacobs 460 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: is back in camp. Dalvin Cook found a home, so 461 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: did Ezekiel Elliott, and Saquon Barkley showed up. Jonathan Taylor 462 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: trying to get things worked out. I'm gonna get my 463 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: final thoughts on the reality of the running back situation 464 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: and the objectivity, not personal feelings, objective truths. I'll share 465 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: with you what's the reality. But first let's go to 466 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: our guy Nick Cope with the latest. 467 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 6: All right, Bernie, good to be back with you. Let's 468 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 6: go around college football Week zero, real quick. As Larry said, 469 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 6: Sam Hartman a great debut for Notre Dame. He threw 470 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 6: four touchdown passes as the number thirteen Irish took care 471 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 6: of Navy in style, forty two to three in Dublin, 472 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 6: Ireland late game number six us D. He dominated the 473 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 6: second half against San Jose State, a fifty six to 474 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 6: twenty eight win. The reigning Heisman Trophy winner Caleb Williams 475 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 6: threw for four touchdowns. Other finals, Vanderbilt hung on against 476 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 6: Hawaii San Diego State over Ohio La Tech winners over FIU, 477 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 6: UMass beat New Mexico State, and then as you touched 478 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 6: that at the top of the show, Jacksonville State winning 479 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 6: their FBS debut against UTEP. In the NFL, Aaron Rodgers 480 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 6: threw a touchdown pass to Garrett Wilson as he made 481 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 6: his debut at a Jet's uniform. Dolphins and Jaguars cut 482 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 6: their preseason game short after Miami receiver Daywood Davis was 483 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 6: immobilized and carted off the field on a stretcher. Dolphins 484 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 6: announced Davis had movement in all his extremities. Buccaneers center 485 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 6: Ryan Jensen placed on injured reserve with a knee injury. 486 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 6: Brown's receiver Jakeem Grant suffered what coach Kevin Stefanski called 487 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 6: a significant knee injury during Saturday's preseason game against the Chiefs. 488 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 6: In baseball, Reds top the Dbacks eight time, seven and 489 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 6: eleven innings. Since he now within a half game of 490 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 6: Arizona for that final wildcard spa. In the NL, Cubs 491 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 6: ten to six over the Pirates. Chicago has that second 492 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 6: wildcard spat in the National League. They said four back 493 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 6: of Milwaukee in the division, and the Brewers keep on rolling. 494 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 6: They've now won seven straight, five to four over the 495 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 6: p Andres. On Saturday, Philly is still holding that top 496 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 6: wild card spot in the NL. They cruise past the 497 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 6: Cardinals twelve to one. Al side of things, Rangers beat 498 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 6: the Twins six to two that snapped an eight game 499 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 6: losing streak. Mariners crushed the Royals fifteen to two. Texas 500 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 6: and Seattle still tie to top the AL West. Ray 501 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 6: shout out the Yankees three zip Orioles over the Ronkies 502 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 6: five to four. Tampa is the top AL wild card 503 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 6: team and three back of Baltimore in the division. Also 504 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 6: the red Sons beating the Dodgers eight to five. Best 505 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 6: team in baseball. The Braves won again seven to three 506 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 6: against the Giants, and one final note here in soccer, 507 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 6: Liono Messi. Some debate if he was going to be 508 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 6: able to play his MLS debut, but he did make 509 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 6: it with Inner Miami on Saturday. He scored again to 510 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 6: help them beat the New York Red Bulls. Spurnie back 511 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 6: to you. 512 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: All right, Nick, So the running back conversation continues to 513 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: float through the ether, and the group think echo chamber 514 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: continues to repeat the same things over and over. I 515 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: am going to reiterate what I've been trying to say 516 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: now for quite a while. First of all, you have 517 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: to look at the game of football. It's become basketball 518 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: on turf. You put your athletes in space to make 519 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: a play, spread the field when you're one on one battles. 520 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 2: As such, the quarterback has become ultra important. Look linebackers 521 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: run like DB's did twenty five years ago. Defensive ends 522 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: run like linebackers used to run three yards in a 523 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: cloud of dust. Doesn't cut it. That doesn't mean the 524 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: running back position is still not important. Let me explain. 525 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: They are still an important cog in an NFL off. 526 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: You've got to block, protect your quarterback, hopefully, catch the 527 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 2: ball out of the backfield, get the hard yard, run 528 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: the ball between the tackles, move the change, punch it 529 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 2: in on the goal line, all of those things. But 530 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: you have a situation here. It's called supply and demand. 531 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 2: There are more running backs than there are jobs. You 532 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: talk to any NFL executive off the record in private. 533 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: The position's not been devalued. There's just an imbalanced to 534 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: supply and demand. There's no need to overpay. And here's 535 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: why let me tell you what's not lost on me. 536 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl last year 537 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: and looked good doing it. And the running back they 538 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: had that was on the field was a player who 539 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: had observed two hundred and fifty one NFL players drafted 540 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: before him. Yes, his name is Isaiah pachak Owater Rutgers. 541 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: He was drafted in the seventh round. That didn't stop 542 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: him from being the leading rusher in the Super Bowl. 543 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 2: You see where I'm going with this now, Christian McCaffrey 544 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: arguably the most talented running back in football. Maybe not 545 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: take your pick. You know, it's like picking out your 546 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: favorite noodlan to play the spaghetti. Could be Alvin Kamara, 547 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: could be Nick Chubb. What does it matter? He left 548 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: the minute, he not the minute, But Christian McCaffrey leaves 549 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: Carolina goes to San Francisco, Carolina's rushing attack improved. How 550 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: the hell has that happened? Running Backs are important. I 551 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: do not devalue them, and they're not replaceable, but they 552 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: are interchangeable. This is not a semantical argument. How else 553 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: can you put a seventh round draft choice who was 554 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: drafted two hundred and fifty first, he becomes the leading 555 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: rusher in the Super Bowl and wins a championship in 556 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: his rookie season. Look again, the game is so quarterback 557 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: centric now you play the game through the quarterback. The 558 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: best way to win the ball game is to operate 559 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: from the pocket. Period. Look at Buffalo. They're on their 560 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: whole offense through Josh Allen. Now Devin Singletary, who's a 561 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: stud back he left. I think he's on his way 562 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: to the Houston Texans if I'm not mistaken. They draft 563 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: James Cook in the second round last year. He doesn't 564 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: need to be a heavy volume back to give him flash. 565 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: He'll catch you out of the backfield. That's where you've gone. 566 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: Green Bay. They'll divide up their carriers between Aaron Jones 567 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: and aj Dillon. You get the picture. Ezekie le Elliott's 568 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: gone all right. So if you look at this objectively 569 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: and set your feelings out the door, just four running 570 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: backs actually have been selected in the first round in 571 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: the past four drafts. There hasn't been a running back 572 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: taken higher than twenty fourth overall since twenty eighteen, when 573 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: the Giants took Saquon Barkley with the second pick and now. 574 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: Of the eighty five running backs drafted in the last 575 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: four years, fifty nine have been taken in the last 576 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: four rounds. I could go on and on and give 577 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: all sorts just statistics. It doesn't matter cause your mind's 578 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: made up. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. 579 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you the truth. I covered the league 580 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: for ten years. I've had lots of conversations. I've maintained 581 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: all my contacts. This is not an opinion. This is 582 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: a fact. The running back position has changed because the 583 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 2: game has changed. It's basketball on turf. 584 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 5: Now. 585 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: I want to say one final thing, and if you 586 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: don't like what I say, that's a you problem. Let's 587 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: say you know your son, little Willie Logart, wants to 588 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: go be a running back. Someday I encourage him. Maybe 589 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: he'll go to college. He'll he'll do well, he get 590 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: drafted in the second round, and he'll have a four 591 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: year career in the NFL, and I'll retire a multi 592 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: multi billionaire and he'll play the position he's best at. 593 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: You're not going to get me to take up a 594 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: collection plate for Saquon Barkley, who if he ever plays 595 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: another down again in the NFL, he'll make for ninety 596 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: four thousand dollars. How about Dalvin Cook if you never 597 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: would have played another down in the NFL this year, 598 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: which he will, he makes thirty four million dollars. Can 599 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 2: you make it on that as Ikey Elliott has made. 600 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: It's seventy one million. I get it. You're not gonna 601 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: get the quarterback money. You're not gonna get the defensive 602 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: end edge rusher money or the wide receiver money. That's 603 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: just the way it is. The game has changed. The 604 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: way you prosecuted offense has changed, the EBB and flow, 605 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: the way you scheme, the way you assemble personnel groupings. 606 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: It's all changed. That doesn't mean the running back position 607 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: should be set aside in the trash heep. You don't 608 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: need to have zoom calls or go on strike, or 609 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: feel sorry for yourself or take up a collection plate. Listen, 610 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: the world evolves. We once fought wars with a single 611 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: shot rifle, the center who played it with his back 612 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: to the basket, and the NBA used to be all 613 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: that and a bag of chips. And so was that 614 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: saying like thirty years ago, I just channel nineteen ninety three. 615 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: I am all over the place tonight. You're gonna have 616 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: to work with me. 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It's right there in front of you. 626 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: I bet you didn't think of it, and I'm willing 627 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: to spell it out. But I'm Bernie Frodle will come 628 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: to you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. 629 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: Keep it locked Radire. You're listening to the Bernie Frawle 630 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. 631 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 632 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 633 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 634 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: listen live. 635 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 7: He's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Byern. 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Catch all of our shows at 654 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search 655 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: FSR to listen live. 656 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: You're back on the Bernie Fantos Show. Fox Sports Radio. 657 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: Company line from retire Act dot Com studios here in 658 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Take you up till three a m. Pacific 659 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 2: six am Eastern coming up the top of the hour, 660 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: Mark Medina, Medina Magic, all these stuff to talk about 661 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 2: in the NBA, and we keep you up to date. 662 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: Of course, Now I mentioned a minute ago that there 663 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: had not been a national champion in college football who'd 664 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: won that title three years in a row since nineteen 665 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: thirty six, thirty four to thirty five and thirty six, 666 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: and that yes, wait for it, would be your Minnesota 667 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: Golden Gophers. Now it's a it's it's a really I 668 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: think it's a really simple reason why it hasn't happened. 669 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: Here's why, because up until recently, the damn thing wasn't 670 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 2: decided on the field. You were up to the whims 671 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: of voters in the AP and UPI, and they if 672 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: they decided they weren't going to vote for you, they 673 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 2: weren't going to vote for you. This was never so evident. 674 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: The nineteen sixty six Alabama Crimson tied football team should 675 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: have easily three peeded. They were eleven to zero that season, 676 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: they had six shutouts, and then the Sugar Bowl they 677 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: beat number six Nebraska thirty four to seven, completing their 678 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 2: quester on the table, which they did. Now the voters decided, 679 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: though that they would give a joint championship to Michigan 680 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 2: and Michigan. Check that Michigan State and Notre Dame because 681 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: they had that famous ten to ten tie. They must 682 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: have been smoking a joint when they gave that championship. 683 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: Bama would have hammered to either one of those teams. 684 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: They didn't get the chance to play them. Here's what's ironic. 685 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty four, Alabama actually lost their bowl game 686 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 2: to Texas, the final game of the year. That was 687 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: a Joe namth quarterback team. Obama still was voted national champion. 688 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: So see, now you get to decide it down the 689 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 2: field before it was decided by voters. I don't trust voters. 690 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 2: If I did, you tell me why the hell in 691 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: I believe it was nineteen fifty six, Jim Brown not 692 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 2: only did not win the Heisman Trophy, he finished fifth. 693 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 2: And my good buddy Dick Shapp said this is stupid. 694 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 2: He didn't vote again for twenty five years until he 695 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: voted for Marcus Allem in nineteen eighty one. But I digress. 696 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: Now it's decided on the field. I get it. Winning 697 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 2: the national championship three years is no easy task. But 698 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: George's position to do it. If you look at their schedule, 699 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 2: as long as they don't trip up at Tennessee November seventh, 700 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: I'm hard pressed to find a loss. I'm not going 701 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: to be that guy who goes week by week and 702 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: can look it up yourself. What's the point I'm making here. 703 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 2: It seems almost inevitable barring something that I can't predict. 704 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: Their envision. Georgia should be in the SEC Championship game 705 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 2: and they should advance to the playoff. That's the way 706 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: I see it. And if Georgia is in the playoff, dude, 707 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 2: that's where they live. Carson Beck has won the job, 708 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: and he would have had to have earned it. And 709 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: they have two great receivers in lad McConkey and the 710 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: best tight end of the business and Brock Powers. They 711 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: bring in a couple of transfers Rura Thomas and Dominic Lovett. 712 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: Georgia is loaded, loaded, loaded, weapons wise, flat out, so 713 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 2: Carson Beck will have plenty of weapons to spread the 714 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 2: ball to. They also again got a couple of receivers 715 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: from Mississippi State, Missouri and the transfer Portal. They're expected 716 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: to make a large impact by the way the Georgia 717 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 2: offensive line, they return for starters, and they have about 718 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: ten guys that will probably be drafted again this year. 719 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 2: They just keep reloading. Now, believe it or not, you 720 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: look on the defensetive side of the ball. I know 721 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 2: you may not believe this, but twenty twenty two was 722 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 2: supposed to be the rebuilding year on defense, and well, 723 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: if you look at the returning production in twenty in 724 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 2: this year, twenty three starts. Up front. You got those 725 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: veterans Zion log monsr Stackhouse, Trammel, Wallthouer, Warren Brenison. Then 726 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: you got a bunch of younger guys who played a 727 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 2: lot last year, but they runner classes and a couple 728 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: of guys who were hurt that didn't finish the season. 729 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 2: Probably the area that they're maybe the most inexperienced at 730 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: is outside linebacker. But they've got a good front seven, 731 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 2: and the secondary returns three starters, including the National Championship 732 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: MVP Javon Bullard. He's moving to safety. Are you kidding me? 733 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 2: That's Georgia loaded. In the final analysis. Look, I'm just 734 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: gonna say it. They're not going to anywhere. They're going 735 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: to be back in the playoff and I'm hard pressed 736 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 2: to think that they don't win it again. We'll see 737 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 2: back to back champions. And they're just as talented now 738 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 2: as they've been in the last two seasons, if not 739 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 2: more so. And that's what happens when you start stacking 740 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: elite recruiting classes on top of each other. You build 741 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 2: a roster that's almost too good to be true. Now again, ultimately, 742 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: it's going to come down to the quarterback. Can Carson 743 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 2: Beck do what Stetson vented did? I don't know, but 744 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: he may not have to. He may not have to 745 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 2: because Georgia is so loaded. And somehow Kirby Smart, who's 746 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: a Nick Saban disciple, has managed to look at this 747 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 2: team and convince them that they are the hunted or 748 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 2: check it out, they are the hunters, not the hunted, 749 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: that they've got something to prove that, you know. The 750 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: expectations are people waiting for them to come back to Earth. 751 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: That's the way it always works. Someone does well and 752 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: everybody stands around waiting for him to come back to Earth. Now, 753 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: Georgia may not be quite as experienced as they are 754 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 2: as they've been in the past from day one, but 755 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 2: they've got a staff who's experienced, and they're confident, and 756 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 2: Georgia has enough depth, and they have an elite defense 757 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 2: to go with a big playoffense. And again don't forget, 758 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 2: they have a very manageable schedule. Look it up for yourself. 759 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 2: The first few games very easy. You go to Tennessee 760 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 2: and after that, well you're on your way to the 761 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: SEC Championship game. Coming up, Mark Padina Medina Magic. We'll 762 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 2: talk about the NBA Coming up. I'm Bernie Frattle. We'll 763 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: come to you live from Las Vegas. Keep it locked, 764 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: it's right. You heard the man. The Bernie Fraddle Show 765 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle. We're 766 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 2: comingy live from the tirect dot com studio. Is Fox 767 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 2: Sports Radio here in Las Vegas, home with the NBA 768 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 2: Summer League and probably a future NBA team. Tyre we'll 769 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: help you get there and then match selection, fast free shipping, 770 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: fore road hazard protection and over ten thousand recommended installers. 771 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: Tyret dot com the way tire buying should be. Well, 772 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: we're just days from September, coming through the DEBTA summer, 773 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 2: not far off NBA camps, not far off the NBA season. 774 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 2: We've got schedules, We've got conversations, We've got arguments. That's 775 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 2: why every week Saturday night midnight, you know it's that time. 776 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 2: Mark Medina, Medina Magic covers the NBA like a blanket 777 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 2: for us, pass his finger on the pulse. There's always 778 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 2: something to talking about, even on one hundred and five 779 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: degree day, Mark II doing Buddy. 780 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 5: Buddy on the head. I mean, not just the storylines 781 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 5: that you talked about, but look, we got Fava basketball, 782 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 5: some details about Kobe Bryant's statue in duction next season. 783 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 5: Steph Curry versus Magic, Johnson debates excuuse Henderson's potential right, 784 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 5: we can take your pick wherever you want to go. 785 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 2: And we're going to get to Jannis's comment too, which 786 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 2: I thought was cryptic, But I want to start with 787 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 2: this debate Stephan Magic. Now I'm qualified to speak on 788 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: this because not only did I see Magic play in 789 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: person many times as so on court side his entire 790 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 2: rookie year, as I was an intern at the Forum, 791 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 2: I have met when it comes to all the things 792 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 2: point guard does, and Isaiah Thomas once told me personally 793 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 2: he thought point guard was the most important position in 794 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 2: all the sports because one man with the ball in 795 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 2: his hands, could dictate the movements of nine other people. 796 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm voting thumbs down. Steph Curry's not the 797 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 2: best point guard of all time. What are you weigh 798 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: in on this? 799 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, if I had to take a pick, I would 800 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 5: slightly take Magic Johnson. But look, I talked with Brandon Payne, 801 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 5: Steph Curry's trainer, earlier this week, and here was his 802 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 5: case of why he thought Steph Curry had the edge 803 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 5: over Magic Johnson. It's not just the fact that he 804 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 5: is the greatest shoot of all time, but he felt 805 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 5: like that he had all the other skills that you 806 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,439 Speaker 5: needed a point guard, as far as being a great 807 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 5: ball handler, you know, being a good playmaker, being a 808 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 5: great leader. You know, He's been able to add a 809 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 5: lot more strength to make himself more durable, both to 810 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 5: absorb those ankle injuries, both to attack the basket. And 811 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 5: no doubt, Magic Johnson he's got more championships. He obviously 812 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 5: was a better playmaker, but Steph does have that shooting 813 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 5: edge over him, as well as the fact that he 814 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 5: has all those other skills. But I think right now 815 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 5: I would still favor Magic because he still has more championships. 816 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 5: He's a better assist and passer than Steph is. And 817 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 5: I think that even though Steph Curry no doubt is 818 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 5: a generational talent, he's changed the game and the way 819 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 5: it's played and inspired the next generation. I think you 820 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 5: also have to give Magic Johnson credit for really playing 821 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 5: a very important part with salvaging the NBA and really 822 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 5: jumpstarting into where it is now because when he entered 823 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 5: the league, you know, it wasn't have and the kind 824 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 5: of commercial success that the NBA is having right now 825 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 5: because of Magic Johnson's play, his charisma, the fact that 826 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 5: he delivered championships, some star power that really helped re 827 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 5: vitalize the commercialization in the league. 828 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 2: And of course, Magic, along with Larry Bird, did save 829 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 2: the NBA. In the decade of the eighties. There wasn't 830 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 2: a single finals played with either Boston or the Lakers 831 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: in there. I don't know who this gentleman you quoted. 832 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 2: I'm guessing he was not there. In October nineteen seventy nine. 833 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,959 Speaker 2: Magic also redefine the position. I was there. He walked 834 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,479 Speaker 2: right by me, we talked. Now this is October seventy nine, 835 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 2: and he's six foot nine and he's a point guard 836 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 2: and he can do any of those things, and he chose. 837 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: It wasn't a shooters league back then that it is now. 838 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 2: And I will give it up to Steph. He's a 839 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 2: prolific shooter. I'm not going to debate whether there's the 840 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 2: greatest shooter of all time. If someone wants to think that, fine, 841 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 2: you can have that. But the point guard's a multifaceted position, 842 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 2: and that's just a big leap for me to automatically 843 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 2: relegate step to that, you know, to that moniker. When 844 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: you got a guy like Magic Johnson and I was there, 845 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 2: and I he had to be there to see it. 846 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 2: I know that sounds cliche, but I'm telling you had 847 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 2: to be there to see it. 848 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think I would add two little wrinkles 849 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 5: here for both Magic's case and STEP's kiss. First, with Magic, 850 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 5: you mentioned about how he's, you know, six foot nine. 851 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 5: He's not that traditional point guard in terms of size. 852 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 5: I think even during that era, he showed that he 853 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 5: can be what modern NBA players can be. I mean, 854 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 5: he played center in the decisive game in the next 855 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 5: eight Finals to beat Philadelphia soventy six ers because Kareem 856 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 5: Abdul Jabbar was hurt, and you know, as we know 857 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 5: about that FOURK lore, he was on the team plane 858 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 5: and everyone else is down troted because Kareem Abdul Jabbar 859 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 5: is this Hall of Fame player, and he said, don't worry, 860 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 5: Magic's here, and you know, teammates, I rolled their eyes, 861 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 5: but he wound up becoming clairvoyant. I think in Steph's defense, 862 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 5: though he has showed that he's not just this shooter. 863 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 5: He's not this one trick pony. He has a lot 864 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 5: of skill sets. So I think that even though we 865 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 5: both are in agreement that Magic has the edge over 866 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 5: step I think it's a real credit to stuff that 867 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 5: you can make the case that he is one b 868 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 5: or even second behind him because of how much he's 869 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 5: put this complete packers together as far as skills go. 870 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 2: May sixteenth, nineteen eighty Magic's rookie year. He turned the 871 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 2: Lakers around in one year. They were a punchline in 872 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 2: an airplane movie. The year before Game five, Jabbar hurt 873 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 2: his hand, did not make the flight to Philadelphia. Magic 874 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 2: sat in Row one A one, which is Jabbar seat, 875 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 2: and said, I got this. He jump center, played all 876 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: three positions, scored forty two points. The rest is history. 877 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 2: But look, this is like arguing a favorite noodle in 878 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 2: to play the spaghetti. People are going to you know, 879 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,439 Speaker 2: people are going to make up their minds. I want 880 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 2: to before we get to the rest of the stuff. 881 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 2: I want to get to Giannis's comments. Is that sort 882 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 2: of a shot across the bill at the Milwaukee Bucks organization, 883 00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 2: Like I'll hang around a year or two, but if 884 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 2: we win, then I'm gonna look at my options exactly. 885 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 5: I mean, look, you got to take everything seriously. I mean, 886 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 5: he's all about winning championships and he wants to get more. 887 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 5: And while I think that the Bucks to get some 888 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 5: equity because it's not like he hasn't won one yet 889 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 5: and they have made a coaching change that suggests that, 890 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 5: you know, they will be able to rectify things from 891 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 5: their first round playoff exit, and you know, the honest 892 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 5: is healthier. But I think that this is a message. 893 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 5: You know, don't think that I'm just going to be 894 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 5: this generational talent that's with one team, like a Tim 895 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 5: Duncan or a Kobe Bryant. I think ultimately he's going 896 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 5: to wind up with the Milwaukee Bucks. His entire career. 897 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 5: But I think it's also a message that there's a 898 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 5: lot of work that has to be done to make 899 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 5: sure that he stays that way, because in his mind, 900 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 5: he's not playing with house money. Everything else is gravy. 901 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 5: He wants to be a multi championship winner, and if 902 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 5: the Bucks, you know, wind up slippering, slipping in that department, 903 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 5: he would look elsewhere. But look, I think when you 904 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 5: look at the Eastern Conference landscape, I would still put 905 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 5: the Bucks at number one here because they have a 906 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 5: healthier team, including the honest the Celics. They probably took 907 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 5: a step back with losing Marcus Smart and getting Chris Osferzingis. 908 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,280 Speaker 5: He already has an injury this offseason, while the Celics 909 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 5: say they expect him to be available for training camp, 910 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 5: you never know. And then everything else in the Eastern Conference, 911 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 5: I mean, as we know, Philadelphia is a mess with 912 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 5: the James Harden situation, and there's no true contenders after 913 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 5: that unless the Miami Heat get Damian Lillard. So while 914 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 5: the Bucks should take you honest as comments seriously, they 915 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 5: should also look at as an opportunity because they are 916 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 5: in the driver's seat to make a championship run. 917 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 2: Talk with Mark Medina Medina Magic every Saturday night here 918 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 2: on SOX Sports Radio at midnight, Mark talk about Kobe 919 00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 2: Bryant's statute. What can you tell. 920 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,399 Speaker 5: Us, Well, it's going to be it's very poetic because 921 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 5: it's going to be on February eighth, twenty twenty four. 922 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 5: As you may know, he wore two jersey numbers eight 923 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 5: twenty four. Right, there's not a lot of detail as 924 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 5: far as what the statue is going to look like. 925 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 5: You know, the Lakers had deliberately kept those things under 926 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 5: rep and I expect that that will But you know, 927 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 5: I talked to folks like Jerry West, the guy who 928 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 5: the general former general manager who secured his raft rights, 929 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 5: Robert horri one of his former teammates during the early 930 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,479 Speaker 5: two thousand championship runs. They certainly had their opinions about 931 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 5: what the statues should look like. Jerry West is saying, 932 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 5: you know what, we got to capture the intensity of 933 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 5: Kobe's eyes because that really showed just how much of 934 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 5: a manatical competitor he is. With Robert Orry, he was saying, 935 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 5: you know, if it was up to me, they would 936 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,479 Speaker 5: show him either at the scores table after he helped 937 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 5: the Lakers beat the Celtics for his fit NBA championship. 938 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 5: His arms stretch out why or when he has a 939 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 5: fist pump. Usually he showed that expression after any game 940 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 5: winning shot or you know, really sticking it to the 941 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 5: opponent in a tough, competitive game. But you know, I 942 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 5: think the thing that's very intriguing about Kobe is, unlike 943 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 5: a Kareem abdul Jabbar or Shaquille O'Neil or Magic Johnson, 944 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 5: three Lakers that have their own statue, Kobe didn't necessarily 945 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 5: have his signature shot. He had that patent fade away, 946 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 5: he had the ability to dunk, but he had all 947 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,800 Speaker 5: the skill sets. So I'm really curious what the ultimate 948 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 5: image is going to be of him. But I think 949 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 5: on the other side of the ceremony, it's no doubt 950 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 5: there's gonna be a lot of emotions because it's just 951 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 5: another reminder of his tragedy and yet another moment in 952 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 5: which it won't be the same without him being a 953 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 5: part of it. 954 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 2: Time with Mark Medina, Medina manager covers the NBA like 955 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 2: a blanket forest finger on the pulse, Mark, let's talk 956 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 2: about Scoot Henderson. I know that Victor Winbinya, I'm going 957 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 2: to takes up a lot of oxygen in the room. 958 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. He's a good guy. 959 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 2: I'm on record as saying I think Scoot Henderson is 960 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 2: more likely to win the Rookie of the Year than Victor. 961 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on Scoot Henderson's. 962 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 5: Potential, well, look, Scoot Henderson grees with you. He says 963 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 5: he thinks he win Rookie of the Year. Brandon Payne, 964 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 5: the trainer I was talking about with Steph Curry, he 965 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 5: also trains Scoot Henderson. I relay those comments to him 966 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 5: and he said, look, you know, if I play the 967 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 5: way he did, with just how explosive of an athlete 968 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 5: he is and how hard of a worker he is, 969 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 5: I would feel the same way. But the reality is 970 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 5: will he win Rookie of the Year. There's so many 971 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 5: different variables. I think when you look at the history 972 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 5: of the vote, they often calculate not just numbers, but 973 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 5: the team's winning percentage compared to the previous season. And 974 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 5: there's some unknowns, especially because we don't know if Damian 975 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 5: Loward is going to be with the team or not. 976 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 5: But I think that there could be a pathway for 977 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 5: him to win, because even though we've talked about vit 978 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 5: your web nawma, how much of his generational talent, there 979 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 5: could be some short term pains as far as how 980 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 5: he adapts the physicality. And with Scoot Henderson, he's already 981 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 5: ready made, which is athleticism, playmaking. That look, he does 982 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 5: have a weakness with his shooting. But I talked to 983 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 5: Brandon Payne, he is his shooting coach with the trainer. 984 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 5: He said, Scoot Henderson is a great shooter. It's just 985 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 5: a matter of not changing his mechanics. He says his 986 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 5: mechanics are great, but just making changes to how he 987 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 5: moves off the ball and just how balanced his body is. 988 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 5: But he says that he's been doing the work. He 989 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 5: lives basketball. He's in the gym, and so because of that, 990 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 5: he thinks that he'll really do a good job at 991 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 5: shipping away any learning curve that comes his way during 992 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 5: his rookie season. 993 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 2: I think it's I think Scoot Henderson's far more NBA 994 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,879 Speaker 2: ready right now than Wemby. As a matter of fact, 995 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 2: let's have a real fun thirty second lightning roun. I'm 996 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 2: going to say my four concerns. I just thought of this. Okay, 997 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 2: one Wemby having to deal with big bodies of some 998 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 2: of the opponents he's going to go up against. I 999 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 2: think he's gonna have issues with defensive, rebounding defense. He 1000 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 2: struggled to play aggressively in Vegas and that was his 1001 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 2: summer league. 1002 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 5: Your thoughts, Yeah, I agree with it. I mean, look, 1003 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 5: this is some degree reactionary of This doesn't mean he's 1004 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 5: gonna be a buss. He's still going to be a good. 1005 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 2: Player, right, but even aspired it. 1006 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 5: But even prior to Summer League, I talked to some 1007 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 5: executives and they were saying, expect the physicality thing to 1008 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 5: be an issue up until year three. So I think 1009 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 5: you can make the argument maybe short term Scoots the 1010 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 5: better player. Long term victor is it'll be fascinating to watch. 1011 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if this is going to matter 1012 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 2: your three. I think he's going to have issues with 1013 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 2: ballhawking defenders. Wenby likes to handle the ball, he likes 1014 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 2: to make plays for himself. He lost the ball in 1015 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 2: traffic multiple times, and again that was in the summer league. 1016 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 2: How does that change three years from now? 1017 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 5: Well, I think here's how it's going to change one, 1018 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 5: he has a skill set that shows that he doesn't 1019 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 5: have to be this brute, dominant force of a big man. 1020 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 5: He can rely on his playmaking abilities, his run protection 1021 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 5: as defender, his outside shooting potential that hasn't been the greatest, 1022 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 5: but he has the potential. Number Two, there is an 1023 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 5: expectation that he's going to bulk up again. He's not 1024 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 5: going to try to be shack. He's not going to 1025 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 5: be a bruising guy. But at least they'll have enough 1026 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 5: strength and also iq from playing NBA games to absorb 1027 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 5: that physicality. But again, so I think the larger point 1028 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 5: you're making, it could take some time, and so I 1029 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 5: very much see a pathway that Scoots could take that 1030 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,399 Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year award, you Rookie of the Year 1031 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 5: award away from him. 1032 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 2: Third thing, I'm concerned about perimeter defense. He's going to 1033 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 2: have to defend wings in the league. That's going to 1034 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 2: be very tough to do. Teams are going to try 1035 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 2: to pull him from the paint and switching situations. He's 1036 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 2: got great lengths, but he's slow on closeouts. Even in 1037 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,720 Speaker 2: the summer league, Brandon Miller got open against him multiple times, 1038 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,760 Speaker 2: knocked down outside shots. How does that change. 1039 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 5: Well, look, in today's NBA, you guys defending all positions. 1040 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 5: I know that was a lot of that was made 1041 00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 5: with Rudy Gobert during his time with Utah. Hey, great protector, 1042 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 5: can't defend wings. But I think what the Spurs are 1043 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 5: going to do is surround him with wings so he 1044 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 5: doesn't have to do that. That doesn't mean that he 1045 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,479 Speaker 5: won't have that responsibility of switching out perimeters, but he's 1046 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 5: such a good defender in the interior that I think 1047 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 5: that the Spurs will be able to play chefs in 1048 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 5: a different way against opponents when they try to put 1049 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,320 Speaker 5: him in bad defensive matchups. 1050 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 2: Final thing, and I'm just raising questions, not trying to 1051 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 2: be critical. Defensive rebounding Winby struggled with I believe the 1052 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 2: inability to locate the balls the rim. Sometimes here in 1053 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 2: the Summer League, at times his reactions were actually a 1054 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 2: second slower than other players on the court. And again 1055 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 2: that was the summer League. 1056 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 5: Your thoughts on that, Yeah, I think that's part of 1057 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 5: just being more educated with the game, and that has 1058 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 5: less to do with physicality and more to do with 1059 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 5: timing and being able to anticipate things, but because of 1060 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 5: his work ethic effect that he has good IQ already. 1061 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 5: I think that that will immediately be addressed during his 1062 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 5: rookie season. 1063 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,879 Speaker 2: Mark great stuff is always. Really appreciate it. Tell aybody 1064 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 2: where they're gona find your stuff. 1065 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of places, too many to answer to 1066 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 5: Twitter X whatever you want to call it, Mark g 1067 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 5: underscore Medina. I'm on TV in La, CBSLA Spectrum Sports 1068 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 5: Net writing. I got sports key to Sports, not sporting tributing. 1069 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 5: Of course your show every Saturday on Fox Sports Radio 1070 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,959 Speaker 5: and all their other shows throughout the week. 1071 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 2: Mark, really appreciate you making time Saturday Night's midnight. There 1072 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 2: you're having folks Medina Magic every Saturday night midnight on 1073 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraddles Show. Mark join your week Ahead. 1074 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,720 Speaker 5: I appreciate your memors. 1075 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 2: That is Mark Medina. I want to remind everybody now 1076 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 2: that the tire Ak sweet Steaks continue, Yes they do. 1077 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 2: It's the final weekend in our summer of Tiraq sweep Steaks. 1078 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 2: This is it. We've had two winners so far that 1079 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,720 Speaker 2: have taken home a set of four brand new tires. 1080 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 2: Anthony K. From Hunningburg, Indiana. Nelson L. From Roswell, Georgia. 1081 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 2: Now's your final chance. 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You're 1091 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. 1092 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 2: All right back at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports 1093 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 2: Radio Company, Lift Tyrac dot Com Studios here in Las Vegas, 1094 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 2: taking up to three and Pacific six am Eastern. Just 1095 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 2: getting started. The very capable Patrick Sweeka had us the 1096 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 2: first hour and Ethan Miller joined us for the remainder 1097 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 2: of the show. Ethan, how you doing, Buddy? 1098 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 9: Doing well? 1099 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 2: Now? I know your busy at hell A busy guy. 1100 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of curious to because everybody has to 1101 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 2: have balance in their life. You ever like consider maybe 1102 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 2: taking like a day each day where you got to 1103 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 2: have a little fun. 1104 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 9: All the time. 1105 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 2: Like what would be a good idea? Like have you 1106 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 2: ever been to Tijuana? 1107 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 4: By the chance, you know what, I actually have not 1108 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 4: been to Tijuana. 1109 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 2: I bet would you like consider doing that for like 1110 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 2: a day trip sometime? 1111 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 9: I actually would. 1112 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 4: I would if I didn't have if I didn't have 1113 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 4: work one morning or one afternoon or actually an entire day. 1114 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 9: It's it's not a morning afternoon thing. 1115 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 2: I maybe it's just not an off day. 1116 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, an off day. I drive down you know what 1117 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 9: you drive down? 1118 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1119 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 4: You know. Listen, Actually you want to hear something crazy, Yeah, 1120 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 4: let's hear it. So the Phillies are in San Diego 1121 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 4: September sixth. There you go, and I think I'm going 1122 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 4: to go down. 1123 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question. What time do 1124 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 2: you leave your house? Would you leave your house on 1125 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 2: that day to get get down to San Diego? 1126 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 9: I got it, Well it's a one fifteen ball game. 1127 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm guessing. 1128 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 4: I gotta leave at ten am. 1129 00:58:58,920 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 3: You know. 1130 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 2: There you go. So look, just to set the record straight, 1131 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 2: because we do a research here on the Bernie Frattle Show. 1132 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 2: If you assuming you live at the Sherman Oaks Studios 1133 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 2: there where you are right now three hours and thirty 1134 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 2: five minutes, that's it. Three hours, and you're there one 1135 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty miles and that that accountcert traffic and everything. 1136 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 2: So the theory perhaps that if you left at seven am, 1137 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be there two or three. That's just silly, 1138 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 2: just silly. You got the last word on this. 1139 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean anywhere you want to go, Go up 1140 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 4: to San Francisco too, you can do that, get there 1141 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 4: in four and a half hours. 1142 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,439 Speaker 2: I'm going to come back to you in a second. 1143 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 2: I want to ask you both one question. We've been 1144 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 2: force fed with Victor Wemby. I've been around a long time. 1145 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 2: I hope he makes it. I don't care, Nick Coole, 1146 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 2: would it surprise you if Wemby just became like a 1147 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 2: good player, another dude instead of this transcendent all world 1148 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 2: behemoth that we're being sold. 1149 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 10: No, wouldn't surprise me. 1150 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 6: And I always get nervous with tall guys and feats 1151 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 6: and knees, and I I don't wish that at all, 1152 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 6: But we've seen that so often with. 1153 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 10: These heralded big guys. 1154 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 6: I think about Grego with obviously Bill Walton long time ago. 1155 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 6: How about Cheed Holmgren. We still haven't really seen him 1156 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 6: play all that much, So no, I would not be surprised. 1157 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 11: Thoughts on Wimby, Yeah, I mean I'm never gonna, you know, 1158 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 11: wish obviously, like you guys are never gonna wish upon 1159 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 11: any type of thing where he, you know, doesn't last 1160 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 11: long in the league or anything like that. 1161 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 4: I I don't think he's he's gonna be a bust. 1162 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be good for the league. I 1163 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 4: don't think he's gonna be like a a staple name, 1164 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 4: but I think he will be you know, I think 1165 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 4: he'll be like a top top fifty player in the league. 1166 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's gonna be a bust, not 1167 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 2: at all. But I don't think early on he's gonna 1168 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 2: have anywhere near the impact that other transcendent stars did. 1169 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna start naming them, but I'm gonna give 1170 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 2: things have a context. And coming up in a second, 1171 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,959 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about the Detroit Lions and why 1172 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 2: I absolutely believe them this year and I'm qualified to 1173 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 2: say that and I'll bring my receipts and I'm going 1174 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 2: to tie it into what I would consider to be 1175 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 2: the winby situation, and of course one other name that 1176 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 2: you're hearing that people are hoping have a big year 1177 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 2: to easier quarterback at Chicago, And I want to begin 1178 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 2: with a narrative I'll share with you guys, and when 1179 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 2: you put it in this context, you start to look 1180 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 2: at things a little differently. We're gonna get to all 1181 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 2: that word solid stuff here in just a minute, but 1182 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 2: first let's go back to our guy Niicope with the latest. 1183 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 6: All right, Bernie, let's recap the college football games. We 1184 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 6: had Week zero, number six USC grade second half against 1185 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 6: San Jose State. They win fifty six twenty eight, four 1186 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 6: touchdowns for Caleb Williams. Number thirteen Notre Dame all over 1187 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 6: Navy forty two to three. They played that one in Dublin. 1188 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 6: Sam Hartman the new quarterback for Notre Dame. He was great, 1189 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 6: four touchdown passes for him. Vanderbilt hung on against Hawaii 1190 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 6: thirty five to twenty eight, San Diego State and beat 1191 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 6: Ohio twenty to thirteen. Now about Jacksonville Stay winning their 1192 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 6: FBS debut against UTEPS seventeen to fourteen. In baseball, the 1193 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 6: final game of Saturday saw the Reds top the d 1194 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 6: Backs eight to seven and eleven innings. Since He's now 1195 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 6: within a half game of Arizona for that final wildcard 1196 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 6: spot in the National League, Cubs ten to six over 1197 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 6: the Pirates. Chicago has that second wild card in the NL. 1198 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 6: They sit four back of Milwaukee in the division. Brewers 1199 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 6: just keep on rolling. They've won seven straight, edging the 1200 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 6: Padres five to four. Philly's still holding that top wildcard 1201 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 6: spot in the NL. They cruise passed the Cardinals twelve 1202 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 6: to one. Also had the best team in baseball, the Braves, 1203 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 6: winning again seven to three against the Giants. Over in 1204 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 6: the American League, if the Rangers snapped an eight game 1205 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 6: losing streak. They beat the Twins six to two. Mariners 1206 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 6: crushed the Royals fifteen to two, so both Texas and 1207 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 6: Seattle still tied to top the AL West. Rays shout 1208 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 6: out the Yankees three zip Orioles over the Ronkies five 1209 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 6: to four. Tampa the top ALE wild card team and 1210 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 6: they are three back of Baltimore in the division. Also 1211 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 6: had the Red Sox beating the Dodgers eight to five 1212 01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 6: in the NFL Dodgers and Jags cut their preseason game 1213 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 6: short after Miami receiver day Wood Davis was immobilized and 1214 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 6: carted off the field on a stretcher in the middle 1215 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 6: of the fourth quarter. Dolphins later announced Davis had movement 1216 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 6: in all his extremities. Aaron Rodgers threw a touchdown pass 1217 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 6: to receiver Garrett Wilson as Rodgers made his debut in 1218 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 6: a Jets uniform. Raiders and running back Josh Jacobs agreed 1219 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 6: to a one year deal worth up to twelve million 1220 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 6: with incentives. Buccaneers veteran center Ryan Jensen was placed on 1221 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 6: injured reserve with the knee injury, and Brown's receiver Jaquem 1222 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,919 Speaker 6: Grant suffered with coach Skev Kevin Stefanski called a significant 1223 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 6: knee injury during their preseason game on Saturday against the Chiefs. 1224 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 6: Bernie back to you. 1225 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 2: Alrighty, Nick, I'm gonna ask you a question. I'm gonna 1226 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 2: ask Ethan the same question. 1227 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 10: Okay. 1228 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 2: So folks have hopes, high hopes for Justin Fields, and 1229 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 2: this is my take on Justin Fields. High character individual, 1230 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 2: world class athlete. He does have a cannon arm. He 1231 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 2: can run like the wind, which is great. If you're 1232 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 2: entering a punt passing kick competition list, of course, you're 1233 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 2: going up against thirteen year old Andrew Reid. If you 1234 01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 2: don't know what I'm talking about, google it. It's an 1235 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 2: all timer. That doesn't mean he can prosecute an NFL offense. 1236 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 2: The difference between running an NFL offense and a college 1237 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 2: offense is dramatically different. Yes, Justin Fields is a dual 1238 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 2: three quarterback, but his default mechanism is to run, so 1239 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 2: he's a run first, throw second. He's not real accurate. 1240 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he can't have a great career. But 1241 01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 2: here comes the question. So I'm gonna let me let 1242 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 2: this out ask both of you. Let's say, guys that 1243 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 2: Justin Field starts thirty eight games the next three years, 1244 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 2: he goes twenty five and thirteen as a starter. The 1245 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 2: Bears make the playoffs two of those three years. He 1246 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 2: throws sixty five touchdown passes against only thirty seven interceptions 1247 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 2: and complete sixty seven percent of his passes. Nick, I 1248 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 2: can repeat those numbers, but you probably heard him. Would 1249 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,280 Speaker 2: you if Justin Field did that the next three years, 1250 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 2: would that be successful? 1251 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 6: I think that would be successful. It'd be a lot 1252 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 6: better than what he has shown so far. I have 1253 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,439 Speaker 6: a feeling where this is going, but just continually. 1254 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 2: Right, don't steal my thunder just yet, Ethan. Would you 1255 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,600 Speaker 2: like me to repeat those numbers? I can? I mean, yeah, okay. 1256 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 2: So let's say Justin Field starts the next three years, 1257 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 2: he starts thirty eight games, his one lost record is 1258 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 2: twenty five and thirteen. The Bears make the playoffs two 1259 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 2: or three years, he throws sixty five touchdowns against thirty 1260 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 2: seven interceptions, complete sixty six percent of his passes. And 1261 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 2: just for fun, let's say the Bears go twelve and 1262 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 2: four in one of those years, even though we now 1263 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 2: know they play seventeen games. Would that be successful, Ethan? 1264 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 2: Would they call Justin Fields's success? 1265 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1266 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 4: I mean, if here's the thing as much of a 1267 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 4: success of like not winning a Super Bowl? H Yeah, 1268 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 4: I mean, uh, that's that's a fine career in mind. 1269 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 2: Yes, he's pretty good to me, doesn't it. 1270 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, seems pretty good to me too. 1271 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,960 Speaker 2: Well, guess who did that, Mitch Trubisky. Those are the 1272 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 2: exact numbers that Mitch Trubisky put up. And oh, by 1273 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 2: the way, that twelve and four year in twenty eighteen, 1274 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 2: which mint when Mitch Trubisky was handed the keys of 1275 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 2: the car. The Bears not only went to the playoffs, 1276 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 2: they would have won a damn playoff game it have 1277 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 2: had it not been for the double doing field goal 1278 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,920 Speaker 2: by Cody Parkey. So Mitch Trubisky's last three years, he 1279 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 2: was twenty five and thirteen, went to the playoffs two 1280 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 2: or three years, completed sixty seven percent of his passes, 1281 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 2: sixty five touchdown, thirty seven interceptions, and they call him 1282 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 2: a bum. There's no guarantee justin field to do that. 1283 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 2: That's why I brought that up about Wemby. How do 1284 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 2: we know what is going to be our standard of 1285 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 2: measure as to just how great he is? We're told 1286 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 2: he's going to be transcendent. Look, this is why we 1287 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 2: do this. It's fun. We're not saving lives here. We're 1288 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 2: not creating world peace for talking sports. Right, sports are 1289 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 2: a metaphor for life. Uh, Nick, did you know where 1290 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 2: I was going with a Did you know it was 1291 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 2: gonna that was gonna be Trubisky? 1292 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 6: Well, you said something about the Lions before the update. 1293 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 6: I thought there was gonna be some sort of Jared 1294 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 6: Goff comparison. 1295 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,919 Speaker 2: I love golf. Go ahead, I'm sorry I started sawing 1296 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 2: that right there. 1297 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 10: No, that's that's all I everybody treats. 1298 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 2: GoF like a bastard child. He comes out of col 1299 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 2: with a cannon arm. He's drafted number one overall. Yes, 1300 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 2: I know the Rams have the bad taste in their 1301 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 2: mouth because they ran into Build Belichick's defense and they 1302 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 2: lost thirteen to three. I got news for you. Stafford 1303 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 2: wasn't winning that game either, So we goff falls into 1304 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,880 Speaker 2: this favor. Now, look what he's doing with the Lions. 1305 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 2: The point of the matter is these things are so 1306 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 2: highly subjective, right, you just don't know speaking with the Lions. 1307 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 2: Why do I believe the Lions are for real this year? 1308 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 2: And I covered this team for ten years pre and 1309 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 2: post saw it all ninety eight was Barry Sanders last 1310 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 2: year two thousand and eight, Rod Marinelli went ohen sixteen, 1311 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 2: saw everything in between, Matt Millon fifty games under five hundred, 1312 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 2: all kinds of craziness. Now, we talked about this. I 1313 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 2: talked about this in my Weekly spot with Aaron and 1314 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,679 Speaker 2: Aaron Torris and Jason Martins, Guy's Great Show every Saturday 1315 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 2: night from seven to eleven. Look the last time the 1316 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 2: Lions won a playoff game was January fifth, nineteen ninety two. 1317 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,719 Speaker 2: They crushed Dallas and Jimmy Johnson thirty eight to six. 1318 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 2: John Madden was on the call that day. He said, 1319 01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 2: you're looking at the two teams of the nineties. He 1320 01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 2: was half right. Dallas went on to win three Super Bowl. 1321 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 2: The Lions have not yet won a playoff game since. 1322 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 2: And it's been thirty one years, but they've actually gotten 1323 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 2: to the playoffs eight times. They just haven't won one. 1324 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,559 Speaker 2: Even after that ninety two game was from the ninety 1325 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 2: one season. Two years later, they hosted a playoff game 1326 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 2: in the Silver Dome, a game I was at against 1327 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 2: the Packers. They were leading twenty four to twenty one 1328 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 2: in a minute to go, and somebody lost coverage and 1329 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,960 Speaker 2: far through a ball about sixty five yards in the 1330 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 2: year and I think Sterling Sharp camped under it, and 1331 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 2: the rest is history. The whole stadium went silent. So 1332 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 2: what's going to be different? I know, the many you 1333 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 2: bring up the Lions, people say, oh, Samuel, Lions, I'm 1334 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,840 Speaker 2: not going to hold this team accountable for things that 1335 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 2: happened before they were born. This is what caused me 1336 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 2: to flip and I think the world of Dan Campbell, 1337 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 2: and I think the world of Brad Holmes their GM. 1338 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,800 Speaker 2: He's really drafted well. But something happened last year that 1339 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,560 Speaker 2: no one is talking about. The Lions start one and 1340 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 2: six and Dan Campbell made a command decision. He fired 1341 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:03,719 Speaker 2: defensive back Aubrey prot Aubrey Pleasant, and it wasn't pleasant. 1342 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 2: His risk rewards scheme was ineffective. It was causing all 1343 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 2: kinds of communication problems, breakdown, blown assignments. The lines were 1344 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 2: getting beat on the back end. They fired Aubrey Pleasant, 1345 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 2: they installed a new, much simpler system and at work. 1346 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,520 Speaker 2: Guess what the lines were eight and two down the stretch. Additionally, 1347 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 2: they got to the offseason, the lines know they knew 1348 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,280 Speaker 2: they needed to get better in the secondary. So what 1349 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 2: do they do. They go out and get cornerback Cameron 1350 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 2: Sutton from the Steelers, a quality acquisition from a great culture. 1351 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,879 Speaker 2: They pick up safety Chauncey Gardner Johnson from the Eagles 1352 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,680 Speaker 2: they were just in the Super Bowl. A quality individual 1353 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,200 Speaker 2: they obtained from a great culture. And they also get 1354 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 2: cornerback Emanuel Moseley from the San Francisco forty nine ers. 1355 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 2: All big upgrades, all will step in day one and 1356 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:04,479 Speaker 2: have an impact, all from superior cultures. They also draft 1357 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,840 Speaker 2: Jack Campbell, a linebacker out of Iowa, a beast, a 1358 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 2: great open field tackler. They may not be the fastest 1359 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 2: guy in the world, but I'm kno getting tomorrow Rocky. Look, 1360 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 2: they're already calling him Jack Lambert, which is an homage 1361 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 2: to the former Steelers Hall of Famer. Plus, did I 1362 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:26,360 Speaker 2: mention the Lions have the ninth easiest schedule in the 1363 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,560 Speaker 2: National Football League This year, They'll play teams with the 1364 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 2: cumulative record of a four to ninety two winning percentage. 1365 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 2: One other thing, could the stars be aligning? The Lions 1366 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,799 Speaker 2: will play the Chiefs a week from Thursday. They opened 1367 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 2: up as a seven point underdog. They're now a six 1368 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 2: and a half point underdog. Guess who's not going to 1369 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 2: be playing in that game for the Chiefs at least now, 1370 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,520 Speaker 2: sure as hell doesn't look that way. They're best defensive 1371 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 2: player Chris Jones, and oh, by the way, the last 1372 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 2: time Jared Goff and Patrick Mahomes faced off on Monday 1373 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,599 Speaker 2: Night football years ago, eight hundred ninety one yards total passing, 1374 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 2: eleven touchdowns, one hundred and five points and Jared Goff 1375 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 2: prevailed fifty four to fifty one. You know, there's been 1376 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,680 Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty occasions in the NFL where a 1377 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 2: team scored fifty points. Only once did the team who 1378 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 2: scored fifty points lose. Casey scored fifty one that night, 1379 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,360 Speaker 2: lost fifty four to fifty one to Jared Goff, and 1380 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,400 Speaker 2: the ram fans want to hate on him. I don't 1381 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,679 Speaker 2: think so. Not having it. By the way, the Lions 1382 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 2: play Seattle Week two. Guess who's not going to be 1383 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 2: playing for Seattle Week two? Another big time loss in 1384 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 2: my opinion, wide receiver Jackson Smith and Jigba. I believe 1385 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,000 Speaker 2: in the Lions. I believe in their culture and if 1386 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 2: you look at the rest of the division, yes, Minnesota 1387 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 2: deserves a lot of credit for what they did last year, 1388 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 2: and people would lose their minds when we told the truth. 1389 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 2: In Minnesota. There's a thing called the Pythagoream theorem. The 1390 01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,120 Speaker 2: Vikings won thirteen games last year, but they act act 1391 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 2: we're outscored by three points cumulatively for the entire season. 1392 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 2: That doesn't happen. Last year. I tried to warn everybody 1393 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,080 Speaker 2: who were Raiders fans they'd gone ten and seven and 1394 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and in the Pythagoream theorem, they had 1395 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 2: a similar situation. It was going to come back to Earth. 1396 01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 2: It projected to a seven and ten season. I was 1397 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 2: wrong and Raiders were six and eleven. And I don't 1398 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,839 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be much better this year. The Vikings, 1399 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 2: they're not going to fall do all the way down 1400 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 2: to six and eleven. No, but I'm looking at a 1401 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 2: nine to eight team this year. That's where I see 1402 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,040 Speaker 2: the Vikings. The Pythagoram theorem doesn't lie, nor does it 1403 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 2: lie in baseball. If you give up more runs, if 1404 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,080 Speaker 2: you give up more points than you score, you're always 1405 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,479 Speaker 2: going to regress back to the meet. I expect that 1406 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,639 Speaker 2: to happen to the Vikings this year. Also, the Vikings 1407 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 2: were seven to zero in one score games last year. 1408 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 2: That doesn't carry over into the next season. I really 1409 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,839 Speaker 2: been doing this for about thirty years. Watch if I'm wrong. Hey, fine, 1410 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,800 Speaker 2: we'll talk about it. I'll take my medicine. I don't 1411 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,400 Speaker 2: think I'm going to be wrong. Chicago Bears, they are 1412 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 2: a long ways away. They won three games last year. 1413 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 2: They're not ready. I'm not convinced from what I see 1414 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 2: with Justin fields, still not letting them do a whole 1415 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 2: hell of a lot. Last week he completed three passes 1416 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 2: for negative seven air yards and DJ Moore in company 1417 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 2: they add up to about one hundred and fifty yards 1418 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,880 Speaker 2: and after the catch yards after the catch. Nothing wrong 1419 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 2: with that, But I think defensive coordinators are going to 1420 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 2: make life very difficult on Justin fields this year. We'll see, 1421 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,639 Speaker 2: we'll see, and then that leaves to Green Bay Packers 1422 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 2: a very good roster. They couldn't get to the playoffs 1423 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 2: with Rogers last year. Nothing against Jordan Love. Don't tell me, 1424 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,040 Speaker 2: show me he hasn't gotten on the field in three years, 1425 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,519 Speaker 2: because I think they're serious question marks. I think he'll 1426 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 2: have a good game and in not such a good game. 1427 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,639 Speaker 2: I think he'll be very inconsistent this year. Again. Could 1428 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 2: I be wrong? Fine, don't give me the speech. Don't 1429 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,160 Speaker 2: tell me. Show me what I'm seeing in the Lions 1430 01:14:55,160 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 2: are the stars are lining up? We'll see. I nobody's 1431 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,479 Speaker 2: gonna selectively forget. They can't wait to play Gotchat week eight. 1432 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 2: If the Lions are three and five, knock yourself out. 1433 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,760 Speaker 2: But I call him as I see him. The show 1434 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,640 Speaker 2: is tonight, and I think the Lions did enough the 1435 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,840 Speaker 2: last ten games of the season last year, Boo to 1436 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,640 Speaker 2: convince me this is not the same organization or the 1437 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,519 Speaker 2: same culture. They did it on the field as well. 1438 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 2: It was a real gut check when they went into 1439 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 2: green Bay and beat them in Lambeau to keep green 1440 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,280 Speaker 2: Bay out of the playoffs, even though the Lions knew 1441 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 2: they couldn't get in because Seattle had won earlier in 1442 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,680 Speaker 2: the day. You know, we've done this multiple times on 1443 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 2: this show. Every year eighteen to the last twenty years, 1444 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 2: somebody goes from last to first. Well, the Lions weren't 1445 01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 2: the last place team last year, but this is a 1446 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 2: league where there's a lot of parody and teams can emerge. Now, 1447 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,559 Speaker 2: they may get a rough start of it. I don't know, 1448 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 2: but if you consider all the things I laid out, 1449 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,240 Speaker 2: I believe the Lions will have a good year. We 1450 01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:01,960 Speaker 2: shall see coming up college expansion. In terms of the realignment, 1451 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 2: h might not be over. There are some conversations in 1452 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,680 Speaker 2: the ACC this past week. I'll share with you what 1453 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 2: was said. I'm Bernie Friddle. We're company live from Las Vegas, 1454 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,960 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, tarrac dot Com studios. Keep it locked 1455 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:22,760 Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Hi, 1456 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 2: right back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. 1457 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,879 Speaker 2: Come to your life from the tyrac dot com studios 1458 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,240 Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Coming up top of the hour, 1459 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a role call of all the NFL 1460 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,759 Speaker 2: teams who made the playoffs last year. Like musical chairs, 1461 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 2: who's getting left out this year? What goes up must 1462 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 2: come down. We'll give a brief synopsis on each team 1463 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 2: and what I think their chances are to get back 1464 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,200 Speaker 2: out of the dance and some who might not be 1465 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,919 Speaker 2: so fortunate. Tonight show brought to you by Progressive Insurance. 1466 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,679 Speaker 2: Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy 1467 01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 2: discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, a TV and 1468 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 2: more all your protection in one place. Bundle and save 1469 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:10,679 Speaker 2: at Progressive dot Com. Well. Conference realignment is not done yet. 1470 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,240 Speaker 2: You heard LARRYS. Sorenson with me at eleven fifteen Pacific. 1471 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,320 Speaker 2: The ACC is once again strongly considering adding Stanford, cal 1472 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,479 Speaker 2: and SMU. Yep, you heard that right. There was an 1473 01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 2: initial push right after the Pac twelve collapsed, but it 1474 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,680 Speaker 2: seems to have new life the conversations are gaining momentum, 1475 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,640 Speaker 2: and the crux is, of course financial. The ACC is 1476 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,920 Speaker 2: falling behind in the financial race with the SEC and 1477 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 2: the Big ten and their two biggest brands Florida State 1478 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 2: and Clemson. They are not happy with the current arrangement. 1479 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,960 Speaker 2: Here's why this might happen. SMU has already said they're 1480 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 2: willing to join the ACC without being paid a TV 1481 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 2: revenue distribution for many years. I think Larry said seven years. 1482 01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 2: Stanford and Cal they perhaps would come at every day straight, 1483 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 2: potentially as little as twenty five percent of the league 1484 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,360 Speaker 2: standard distribution. Well, that would leave a large portion of 1485 01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:12,479 Speaker 2: new TV revenue created by the three added schools that 1486 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,120 Speaker 2: would be dished out to the charter members of the 1487 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 2: ACC right now, and apparently the league is reportedly currently 1488 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:26,679 Speaker 2: reviewing these different financial models. If this comes to pass, well, 1489 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,639 Speaker 2: I guess it would provide a respite and a life 1490 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,519 Speaker 2: raft for two of the most prestigious academic schools in 1491 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:37,519 Speaker 2: the entire Power five, Stanford and Cal. But now, like 1492 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,400 Speaker 2: Larry said, instead of the ACC, you're going to have 1493 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,040 Speaker 2: the Coast to Coast Conference. What's it going to be 1494 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,160 Speaker 2: like when Stanford and Cal go to Virginia on a Tuesday, 1495 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,840 Speaker 2: I have to play a volleyball game. But you're getting 1496 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,760 Speaker 2: tired of hear into that scenario, and so am I. 1497 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,200 Speaker 2: The bottom line, this is the new world we're in. 1498 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 2: Adapt or die. 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What we've tried to do is 1530 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 2: ranking order of probability teams that were in the tournament 1531 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 2: last year we'll get back in this year. And I'm 1532 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 2: gonna start with Ethan's Philadelphia Eagles. Now, their schedule is 1533 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,559 Speaker 2: among the league's toughest based on the twenty twenty two 1534 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,240 Speaker 2: opponents winning percentages. And you got a couple of new coordinators, 1535 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,760 Speaker 2: and you've got different starters at running back and linebacker. 1536 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,920 Speaker 2: But this team is mostly intact. They drafted well, added 1537 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,240 Speaker 2: some studs on defense. I think if you put on 1538 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,519 Speaker 2: paper the roster from top to bottom, I think the 1539 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,880 Speaker 2: Eagles had the best roster in the NFL. So, barring 1540 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,160 Speaker 2: something horrible happening to Jalen Hurts, it's tough to imagine 1541 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:36,080 Speaker 2: a scenario where the Eagles aren't one of the best 1542 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,679 Speaker 2: seven in the NFC to get back into the playoffs. 1543 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,360 Speaker 2: I think they're the most likely team to get into 1544 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 2: the playoffs of the group that was their last year. 1545 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,320 Speaker 2: Second tired of hearing about the Buffalo Bills. Now they're 1546 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,040 Speaker 2: gonna fade based on what. Look at the hell they 1547 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,479 Speaker 2: had to go through last year. Had to go back 1548 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,000 Speaker 2: to Detroit four days in a row or back to back, 1549 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,280 Speaker 2: and four days ever Thanksgiving because of the snowstorm, could 1550 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 2: have played at home, had to horrible Hamlin situation, Von 1551 01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,479 Speaker 2: Miller got hurt. They were the preseason Super Bowl darlings. 1552 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,519 Speaker 2: A year ago. They were still thirteen and four. I 1553 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,240 Speaker 2: think they'll figure out the Stephan Diggs thing if Von 1554 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:16,320 Speaker 2: Miller stays healthy, Travarius White, Micah Hyde, DeMar Hamlin, and 1555 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,040 Speaker 2: they just have a decent run game and a decent 1556 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,599 Speaker 2: pass defense, which they've already upgraded this year. Yes, they 1557 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,920 Speaker 2: have a tough schedule, they have an imposing division. They've got, 1558 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,759 Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of a voltable wide receiver 1559 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,240 Speaker 2: in Stefvan Diggs. But I think he's a pro and 1560 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 2: I think he'll get it together. And they've got an 1561 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,479 Speaker 2: offense that Josh Allen, you know, sometimes tries to do a 1562 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,920 Speaker 2: little too much. But this team is very capable and 1563 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 2: it needs to go to Buffalo. Buffalo will be back 1564 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,880 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. So are the forty nine ers. You 1565 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:51,519 Speaker 2: lose Tomko Ryans great defensive coordinator Nick Bosa has been 1566 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,960 Speaker 2: a holdout. You got an offensive line that's got questions. 1567 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,640 Speaker 2: But look, I believe in Brock Party. Everybody's waiting for 1568 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 2: him to come back to Earth. Why why based on 1569 01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 2: what he had eight games, didn't lose a single game. 1570 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 2: He commands that offense like a magician. I'm not looking 1571 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:08,880 Speaker 2: at paint pine numbers out there. I'm looking at a 1572 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,640 Speaker 2: real artist. Maybe he doesn't run fast, you don't like that, 1573 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,759 Speaker 2: or maybe he's not you know, can't jump over tall billings, 1574 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,559 Speaker 2: you don't like that. He knows how to play quarterback. 1575 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 2: And let me tell you, he came through for the 1576 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,880 Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers last year. Now he may 1577 01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,840 Speaker 2: not bat a thousand this year, but I think he's 1578 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:28,800 Speaker 2: going to be just fine. Jacksonville they're also for real 1579 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:33,240 Speaker 2: thanks to Trevor Lawrence. Don't misinterpret the Jags as a 1580 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,400 Speaker 2: fluke going to ten and seven, Lawrence, those four picks 1581 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,960 Speaker 2: in a in a freaking playoff game, and then it 1582 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,960 Speaker 2: turns around and those four touchdown passes in the second 1583 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:46,519 Speaker 2: half and they take down the Chargers. I love Doug Peterson. 1584 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,759 Speaker 2: I love the Tony set and the state of affairs 1585 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,599 Speaker 2: in the AFC South. The Jacks should have no trouble 1586 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,320 Speaker 2: going through that division. They should be five to one 1587 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,000 Speaker 2: of their division. They should own that division. Now the 1588 01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,640 Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans that they will be approved improved, But the 1589 01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,599 Speaker 2: jack had the best quarterback and you know, the most 1590 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,880 Speaker 2: balanced on both sides of the ball, with a great coach. Now, 1591 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,599 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, they're gonna be back in the playoff. Remember 1592 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,639 Speaker 2: they were eleven and six last year. And I don't 1593 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,320 Speaker 2: don't think just because i'm you know, they're listed fifth here. 1594 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,559 Speaker 2: They're the league's fifth best team. That would that's our ages. 1595 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:22,040 Speaker 2: They're murderers row. They're fantastic, and they do have a 1596 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 2: tough schedule this year. It's not easy to win an 1597 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 2: eighth straight AFC. West crown Or hosts the conference title 1598 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,360 Speaker 2: game for the sixth year in a row. And yeah, 1599 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,720 Speaker 2: you're breaking in a new pair of offensive tackles and 1600 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,840 Speaker 2: you had to wave goodbye to Eric P. Enemy and 1601 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,240 Speaker 2: I like Eric P. Enemy. Okay, that's not insignificant, and 1602 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,280 Speaker 2: the depth of the AFC is really the crux of 1603 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 2: hy KC might only win eleven games, ten games, but 1604 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,160 Speaker 2: ten eleven or twelve, they're not gonna go fourteen and 1605 01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,000 Speaker 2: three and they're not okay, But as long as you 1606 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,960 Speaker 2: got Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, you are not going 1607 01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:01,439 Speaker 2: to be sitting home in January booking. I like the 1608 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,679 Speaker 2: Seahawks too. They were a wildcard team in twenty twenty 1609 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,639 Speaker 2: two and they I think they're improved and they keep 1610 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,320 Speaker 2: bringing in new young talent to infuse what they had before. 1611 01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:16,360 Speaker 2: They don't miss Russell Wilson. I like Listen. There's always 1612 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,640 Speaker 2: the chance, but I'm not predicting it. There's always a 1613 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:24,120 Speaker 2: chance Gino Smith could revert to his Jets iteration. But 1614 01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,120 Speaker 2: it seems more plausible to me that Seattle not only 1615 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,439 Speaker 2: he's back in the playoffs, but they take a step 1616 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,799 Speaker 2: up and they win the NFC West. It could happen. 1617 01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,720 Speaker 2: Let's see Cincinnati, all hands on deck, the best team 1618 01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,080 Speaker 2: in the AFC North. I think Joe Burrow will be back. 1619 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow will be fine. They're nursing him through right now, 1620 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,280 Speaker 2: and they're in a tough division. It's not going to 1621 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,720 Speaker 2: be easy to come out and top. But as long 1622 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,679 Speaker 2: as you got Jamar Chase healthy, Joe Burrow healthy, and look, 1623 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 2: I think they're better suited to half success in the Browns, 1624 01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,759 Speaker 2: maybe even the Ravens. As long as it's is Burrows 1625 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,679 Speaker 2: injured calf heels and doesn't come back to haunt him anymore. 1626 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,880 Speaker 2: I don't think the Bengals are that vulnerable. I like 1627 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,720 Speaker 2: lou Ana Rumo's defense as well. The Bengals would be 1628 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,240 Speaker 2: back in the playoffs now the Cowboys. I'm going to 1629 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:17,439 Speaker 2: hold my nose and say that they're likely to be 1630 01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. This one I'm a little concerned about. 1631 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,680 Speaker 2: They got Barney Robol as their head coach, and they 1632 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,000 Speaker 2: got a quarterback who's a turnover machine. And you know 1633 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:32,800 Speaker 2: it now. If you set that aside, though, that was 1634 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:37,519 Speaker 2: an offense that really was highly effective under Kellen Moore. 1635 01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,439 Speaker 2: Their offensive coordinator, who's not gone, he's gone to the Chargers. 1636 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,599 Speaker 2: Right now, you've got Mike McCarthy, he's gonna call place. 1637 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,840 Speaker 2: But the Dallas defense, to me, is so good. You 1638 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 2: still got your twenty nineteen Defensive Player of the Year 1639 01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 2: Stefan Gilmour. I would say that Dallas will be in 1640 01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 2: every game because of their defense, and they might end 1641 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:05,599 Speaker 2: up nine to eight or something. But in this man's NFL, 1642 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,519 Speaker 2: seven of the sixteen teams make the playoffs. So I'm 1643 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,280 Speaker 2: gonna hold my nose and put Dallas in there. I'm 1644 01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 2: also gonna put Baltimore in there as well. They look 1645 01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,680 Speaker 2: good on paper. I think it was great that they 1646 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:23,679 Speaker 2: extended Lamar Jackson. Lamar's healthy, seemingly happy, and he can play. 1647 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:27,320 Speaker 2: Lamar can operate from the pocket. He does not deserve 1648 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,000 Speaker 2: the criticism he's gotten about operating from the pocket because 1649 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 2: he can. But he's so dynamic with his legs that 1650 01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,880 Speaker 2: you know you got a factor in that as well. 1651 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 2: Baltimore's gonna have to channel all this talent into an 1652 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,479 Speaker 2: offense is cohesive and consistent. But if they do, they're 1653 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,880 Speaker 2: gonna be a tough out. They're gonna be you know, 1654 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,439 Speaker 2: you can get eleven to one odds in Vegas. Will 1655 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:53,640 Speaker 2: any of the divisions have all four entrants make the playoffs. 1656 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,280 Speaker 2: It's highly unlikely, but if anyone's got a chance, it's 1657 01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 2: gotta be THEFC North because Cincinnat he's in. I think 1658 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,400 Speaker 2: Baltimore's in. I think Pittsburgh's gonna probably be in. Well, 1659 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,320 Speaker 2: Cleveland not so sure, but you can't count him out. 1660 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:12,439 Speaker 2: All right. The Miami Dolphins. I believe in the Miami Dolphins. 1661 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 2: Given how tightly packed the AFC is shaping up, I 1662 01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,320 Speaker 2: would say, you know, it doesn't help that you lose 1663 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,760 Speaker 2: cornerback Jalen Ramsey, although for a guy that's supposed to 1664 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,400 Speaker 2: be as good as him, he's sure got beat a 1665 01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 2: lot with the Rams, but you'd rather have him than 1666 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:31,519 Speaker 2: not have him. Mike McDaniel's playbook should take shape in 1667 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,760 Speaker 2: its second year. I'm a believer in Tua I am. 1668 01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,599 Speaker 2: I'm a believer in Tyreek Hill. I think Miami's got 1669 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,320 Speaker 2: a good defense. I love Vic Fangio. That's gonna keep 1670 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,439 Speaker 2: Miami viable, that defense. Miami's a tough place to go 1671 01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:49,800 Speaker 2: down to play in September. It's hot, it's humid. So look, 1672 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 2: they're gonna battle Buffalo, They're gonna battle the Jets. They're 1673 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:57,439 Speaker 2: gonna certainly battle New England. Miami had some nice victories 1674 01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,720 Speaker 2: last year, and they almost damn near went up there 1675 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,120 Speaker 2: and won a playoff game in Buffalo with Skyler Thompson 1676 01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:07,960 Speaker 2: for crying out loud, hopefully to stays healthy. I don't 1677 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:12,240 Speaker 2: know about the Vikings man no Dalvin Cook, no Adam Feelin, 1678 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:17,960 Speaker 2: no Eric Kendricks, no Zadarius Smith, no Patrick Peterson. I 1679 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 2: don't believe they winning in thirteen games this year while 1680 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:27,200 Speaker 2: getting out scored over the course of the season. I 1681 01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,479 Speaker 2: think Justin Jefferson could look forward to a lot of 1682 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:33,200 Speaker 2: double teams this year, and I think Kirk Cousins there's 1683 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:38,040 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot on his shoulders. I don't know 1684 01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,120 Speaker 2: that I would predict the Vikings they are gonna fall 1685 01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,040 Speaker 2: all the way to seven and ten. But they're sure 1686 01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:43,479 Speaker 2: as they are not going to be thirteen and four. 1687 01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 2: They're gonna They're gonna be right on the cusp as 1688 01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,680 Speaker 2: Mike the Giants, and I like the Giants, and I 1689 01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,880 Speaker 2: like Brian Dabel, and I like Daniel Jones, but they 1690 01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,680 Speaker 2: probably overachieved in twenty twenty two and what comes up 1691 01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,640 Speaker 2: must come down. And the g Men went in and 1692 01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,559 Speaker 2: took care of the aforementioned Vikes in their own building. 1693 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:05,760 Speaker 2: And the Giants unfortunately have the misfortune of having to 1694 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,320 Speaker 2: play the AFC East and the NFC WST as part 1695 01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,519 Speaker 2: of their non divisional schedule. Hard to find wins in 1696 01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,000 Speaker 2: that rundown. They're gonna have to make a couple of 1697 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:17,760 Speaker 2: long trips to the West coast. The Niners ain't gonna 1698 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,000 Speaker 2: be easy, The Seahawks ain't gonna be easy. I'm not 1699 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,559 Speaker 2: sure about the Rams yet, not sold on them at all, 1700 01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,840 Speaker 2: but they're gonna compete. Wouldn't go to sleep on a 1701 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,880 Speaker 2: Arizona Well, that's the story for a different day. The Chargers. 1702 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,719 Speaker 2: Something's weird with this team, and not just their coach. 1703 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:39,480 Speaker 2: Their star power is undeniable, as as is their inability 1704 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,439 Speaker 2: to play consistent defense, they can't close out big games, 1705 01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,080 Speaker 2: and they don't know what it's like to take a 1706 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:51,160 Speaker 2: conservative approach. I'm looking at you, Brandon Staley, and I 1707 01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,599 Speaker 2: think he's the wrong guy to ban this ship. So again, 1708 01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,320 Speaker 2: proved me wrong. Would not surprise me if the Chargers 1709 01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,880 Speaker 2: went seven to ten this year when I got Kellum 1710 01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:04,679 Speaker 2: calling plays, and hopefully they can stay healthy. And again, 1711 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,479 Speaker 2: the Chargers are a team that confounds you because of 1712 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:12,400 Speaker 2: the talent they have. But right out of the gate, 1713 01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,400 Speaker 2: early in the season, they got to face Miami, Denver, 1714 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,000 Speaker 2: the Jets, the Ravens, even the Lions. Not going to 1715 01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:21,479 Speaker 2: be easy. Finally, the one team that made the playoffs 1716 01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:26,560 Speaker 2: last year and I'm fairly confident probably won't make the 1717 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,040 Speaker 2: playoffs this year, and that is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 1718 01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:33,000 Speaker 2: They did win eight games, yes, believe it or not, 1719 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,040 Speaker 2: eight games last year was good enough to win the 1720 01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,720 Speaker 2: NFC South. You remember that, and they had a guy 1721 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,719 Speaker 2: named Tom Brady who just was able to win games 1722 01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:46,240 Speaker 2: on reputation. So do you expect do you expect the 1723 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:50,000 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Bucks to actually improve without Tom Brady? And 1724 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,799 Speaker 2: you add to that, they've got a disjointed offensive line, 1725 01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:56,680 Speaker 2: and a rookie play caller and Dave Canalis. I don't know. 1726 01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. And it also raises the question is 1727 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:05,200 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield good? He just won the job? While we're 1728 01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,320 Speaker 2: at it, why don't we talk about that coming up? 1729 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,800 Speaker 2: Is Baker Mayfield actually good? I'll give you my thoughts 1730 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,400 Speaker 2: and I'll give it some context. I'm Bernie fraddle wol 1731 01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:14,960 Speaker 2: Come to your line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports 1732 01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,920 Speaker 2: Radio Tarrack dot Com studios. Give you lock. You're listening 1733 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:22,120 Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Back 1734 01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,400 Speaker 2: on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Come to 1735 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,679 Speaker 2: your life from the tarret dot Com studios here in 1736 01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:31,679 Speaker 2: Las Vegas. You know they say numbers don't lie. However, 1737 01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:36,559 Speaker 2: numbers without context can be very misleading. Baker Mayfield has 1738 01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,599 Speaker 2: won the job in Tampa Bay, and Baker Mayfield has 1739 01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:44,200 Speaker 2: been a polarizing individual since he entered the league in 1740 01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:49,200 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. Part of it self inflicted, but he's also 1741 01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,559 Speaker 2: done some things too. Let's be honest. Okay, remember last 1742 01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,799 Speaker 2: fall when he joined the Rams and three days later 1743 01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,479 Speaker 2: he leads to He leads the Ram to the crazy 1744 01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,920 Speaker 2: victory over the Raidiers and the final seconds to that 1745 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,880 Speaker 2: Thursday night game, and his quarterback rating was eighty six 1746 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,040 Speaker 2: point five, which is the same as Mitched Trubisky, better 1747 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,080 Speaker 2: than Brett fav even better than Dan Marino. So by 1748 01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,720 Speaker 2: that measure, he'd be better than the backup right. And 1749 01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,960 Speaker 2: here's where numbers get weird. His complation rate was sixty 1750 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:20,120 Speaker 2: two percent. It's better than Cam Newton, Eli Manning, Matt Hasselbeck. 1751 01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,920 Speaker 2: They were all successful starting quarterbacks who played in the 1752 01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:27,679 Speaker 2: NFL for a decade or more than a decade. Mayfield 1753 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:32,120 Speaker 2: has an interception rate of two point nine percent. That's 1754 01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,040 Speaker 2: the same as Matt Hasselbeck and Mark Bulger. Both those 1755 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:39,280 Speaker 2: guys made multiple Pro Bowls. Joe Namath, Carson Wentz, Jay Cutler. 1756 01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,599 Speaker 2: They have the same touchdown rate as Baker Mayfield four 1757 01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:44,679 Speaker 2: point six percent. Do you want to do these analytics? 1758 01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,920 Speaker 2: You want to do this stuff all day? You got 1759 01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:51,040 Speaker 2: do the folks who love analytics right well, By the way, 1760 01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,200 Speaker 2: Mayfield has a better touchdown rate than Matt Ryan, Jim Plunkett, 1761 01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,160 Speaker 2: Eli Manning, those they've all played in Super Bowls. Where 1762 01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,840 Speaker 2: am I going with this? So we don't know what 1763 01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,559 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield is going to do? In Tampa Bay. We 1764 01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:06,799 Speaker 2: don't know Willie succeeded, but remember when Mayfield was a rookie, 1765 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,280 Speaker 2: he took the reins of a team that won only 1766 01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:14,519 Speaker 2: one game in the prior too seasons. Nothing against you know, 1767 01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:19,400 Speaker 2: Hugh Jackson, but Man Cleveland was one in thirty one. Now, 1768 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,440 Speaker 2: Mayfield had a six and seven to one loss record 1769 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,640 Speaker 2: in the thirteen games he started as a rookie. But 1770 01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:30,080 Speaker 2: again let's give that some context. The Browns had been 1771 01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:33,280 Speaker 2: one in thirty one the previous two seasons. Oh, by 1772 01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:37,519 Speaker 2: the way, Mayfield he threw twenty seven touchdown passes that year, 1773 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:42,320 Speaker 2: and that was a rookie record until Justin Herbert surpassed 1774 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,240 Speaker 2: it two years later in twenty twenty. Now, you can 1775 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:49,400 Speaker 2: say that Mayfield and the Browns underperformed in twenty nineteen, 1776 01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,200 Speaker 2: but they more than made up for it in twenty twenty, 1777 01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,200 Speaker 2: even though Odell Beckham missed most of the year with 1778 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:59,639 Speaker 2: an injury. Mayfield realized the potential in the team was evident, 1779 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,400 Speaker 2: and his potential was evident. His rookie campaign, he threw 1780 01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:05,640 Speaker 2: for the second most yardge in Brown's history for a 1781 01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:09,400 Speaker 2: single season, only Bernie Cosar back in nineteen eighty six 1782 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,439 Speaker 2: had a more prolific season, and that team was one 1783 01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:14,679 Speaker 2: game away from going to the Super Bowl if Ernest 1784 01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:18,160 Speaker 2: Biner doesn't fumble on the goal line. Mayfield also threw 1785 01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:21,639 Speaker 2: more than three times as many touchdowns. He threw twenty 1786 01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:25,600 Speaker 2: six touchdowns eight interceptions during the regular season when he 1787 01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:29,320 Speaker 2: led the Browns to eleven wins. Then Mayfield then threw 1788 01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:33,200 Speaker 2: three touchdown passes I think it was in the wildcard 1789 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:37,479 Speaker 2: game against Pittsburgh and got Cleveland their first franchise playoff 1790 01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:41,920 Speaker 2: win in twenty five years. Baker Mayfield, before you're two 1791 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:43,720 Speaker 2: hard out him. Remember now he's playing for his eight 1792 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:48,080 Speaker 2: head coach and his sixth offensive coordinator in his sixth 1793 01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:52,720 Speaker 2: NFL season. This has been a topic of discussion, and 1794 01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,880 Speaker 2: there are some folks that thought Kyle Trask would beat 1795 01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,800 Speaker 2: him out. I never thought he would. I'm not trying 1796 01:35:57,800 --> 01:35:59,800 Speaker 2: to put Baker Mayfield in the Hall of Fame here. 1797 01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:02,679 Speaker 2: What I'm trying to do is paint a picture because 1798 01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:06,280 Speaker 2: Mayfield has a lot of diverse experience. Some of it's good, 1799 01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:08,759 Speaker 2: some of it's not as good. But that's his story. 1800 01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:14,320 Speaker 2: He's twenty eight years old, right. Eric Mangini, who's considered 1801 01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,880 Speaker 2: a very smart guy who is the right hand man 1802 01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:21,120 Speaker 2: of Bill Belichick, basically said he believed that Todd Bowles 1803 01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:26,000 Speaker 2: and the new offensive coordinator, Dave Connally's will well back 1804 01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,040 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. He said it before camp even started. He 1805 01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:33,360 Speaker 2: ended up being right. They're gonna feel more comfortable with 1806 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,439 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield because he has experience and he actually has 1807 01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,200 Speaker 2: some poise, and he actually has a presence, and that 1808 01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:41,439 Speaker 2: comes with age and getting a chance to play. That's 1809 01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:48,840 Speaker 2: what Eric Mangini said. Now, if if Mayfield doesn't perform, 1810 01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,960 Speaker 2: then Trask will probably be right right behind them. So 1811 01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,760 Speaker 2: what happens. What happens is next year. Let's give this 1812 01:36:55,800 --> 01:37:00,640 Speaker 2: some context, okay, because the numbers which I shared with you, 1813 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 2: interception rate, touchdown rate, completion rate, comparing them against other quarterbacks, 1814 01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,320 Speaker 2: those are just numbers. And as I said jokingly earlier, 1815 01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:13,760 Speaker 2: you know, there's liars, damn liars, and then there are statisticians. 1816 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,719 Speaker 2: So those are what the numbers say. So what about 1817 01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:20,719 Speaker 2: the context. Mayfield's been in the league since twenty eighteen, 1818 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,760 Speaker 2: But that's ad one word. He's only been in the 1819 01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:28,760 Speaker 2: league since twenty eighteen, So if we're being fair, there's 1820 01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:32,000 Speaker 2: still time to improve those numbers even more. He's got 1821 01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:34,280 Speaker 2: to be in an environment where the quarterback can play 1822 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:38,679 Speaker 2: a huge role, and now he is this season Mayfield alone. 1823 01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:41,960 Speaker 2: Check that. Last season Mayfield alone worked with three different 1824 01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:47,560 Speaker 2: head coaches and two different offensive coordinators. And in Cleveland, 1825 01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:50,240 Speaker 2: in his four seasons, he worked with three different offensive coordinators. 1826 01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:54,320 Speaker 2: And the Browns, how don't care what anybody says, there 1827 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:58,080 Speaker 2: are a notoriously dysfunctional franchise regardless of who's there. But 1828 01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,519 Speaker 2: on the field, Mayfield somehow managed to take a one 1829 01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,519 Speaker 2: to thirty one team and help get him to the 1830 01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:08,440 Speaker 2: playoffs within three years. Wasn't exactly blessed with an embarrassment 1831 01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:12,080 Speaker 2: of riches around him. In twenty eighteen, the Browns wide 1832 01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:15,760 Speaker 2: receivers only caught sixteen touchdown passes for the entire wide 1833 01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:21,240 Speaker 2: receiver group. Take take Green Bay. DeVante Adams caught thirteen 1834 01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:25,519 Speaker 2: alone by himself. Back then, who was the Browns leading receiver. 1835 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:30,040 Speaker 2: Jarvis Landry caught eighty one balls. They're tight end David 1836 01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,640 Speaker 2: and Joku caught fifty six. And then there was their 1837 01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:36,280 Speaker 2: running backs Duke Johnson Nick Chubb. They were catching passes 1838 01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:39,439 Speaker 2: a bigger factor when Mayfield got to the Browns is 1839 01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,360 Speaker 2: believe it or not, they were second in the league 1840 01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:47,080 Speaker 2: and drop passes. Who knows why these things happen. As 1841 01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,240 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, one particular week, I think it 1842 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,519 Speaker 2: was Week nine of the twenty eighteen season, the Browns 1843 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 2: dropped more passes than anybody in the history of the 1844 01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,640 Speaker 2: NFL in a single game. And I think during the 1845 01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,839 Speaker 2: month they dropped six point three percent of their passes, 1846 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:06,519 Speaker 2: which is crazy. So and again I'm not mixed up. 1847 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:10,760 Speaker 2: Mayfield has has sometimes been his own worst enemy, but 1848 01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,200 Speaker 2: in fact his most successful season was also for that 1849 01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:18,439 Speaker 2: same Cleveland team in twenty twenty. Right, the pass catching 1850 01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:23,800 Speaker 2: started to improve and they still have their drops, but 1851 01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:27,840 Speaker 2: that was Kevin Stefanski's first season and Alex Van Pelt's 1852 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,720 Speaker 2: first season as the offensive coordinator, so they had kind 1853 01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:34,040 Speaker 2: of high hopes, but they can never really sustain the success. 1854 01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:37,200 Speaker 2: They had a good start. Then in twenty twenty one, 1855 01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:41,200 Speaker 2: Mayfield has the shoulder injury. He missed three games that 1856 01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:45,040 Speaker 2: very much effected the team's momentum. That was also the 1857 01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,839 Speaker 2: year they decided to release. The Browns released Odell Beckham, 1858 01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,080 Speaker 2: who promptly signs with the Rams and they go win 1859 01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,759 Speaker 2: the damn super Bowl while he blows out his knee 1860 01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:57,960 Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. But I digress. So Baker Mayfield 1861 01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:03,280 Speaker 2: leaves Cleveland, and Cleveland once again, upon his departure is 1862 01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:08,120 Speaker 2: characterized as an organization who will forever live up to 1863 01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:13,559 Speaker 2: its reputation as a as a notoriously dysfunctional franchise. So 1864 01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,880 Speaker 2: what happens is Baker may feel good. Yeah, he actually 1865 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,200 Speaker 2: is good. He's better than you think. I think he'll 1866 01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,800 Speaker 2: have his moments in Tampa Bay and he'll have some 1867 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,000 Speaker 2: moments where well, not so much. But he's in a 1868 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:29,280 Speaker 2: division with Derek Carr and New Orleans. I'm not a 1869 01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:32,440 Speaker 2: car guy. He's in a division with a rookie quarterback 1870 01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:36,959 Speaker 2: in Carolina. I'm a big price young guy, but rookies, 1871 01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:39,120 Speaker 2: I mean, ask Aaron Rodgers. He was six and ten 1872 01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:43,720 Speaker 2: as a rookie. Right, So we shall see what we 1873 01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,200 Speaker 2: shall see. But numbers have a way of putting things 1874 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,400 Speaker 2: in the context and making you look at a situation 1875 01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:53,599 Speaker 2: maybe a little differently. Does that guarantee that Baker Mayfield 1876 01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:57,880 Speaker 2: has success this year? No, but he's got a shot, 1877 01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,080 Speaker 2: and we're going to be watching and I would and 1878 01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:04,840 Speaker 2: write him off just yet, coming up. Hard Knocks episode 1879 01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:12,000 Speaker 2: three made some interesting observations, starting with Robert Sala's speech. 1880 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,559 Speaker 2: We'll chop it up and bring in the crew coming 1881 01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:16,880 Speaker 2: up next, but first let's go back to our guy, 1882 01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:18,160 Speaker 2: Nick Cope with the latest. 1883 01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,479 Speaker 6: All right, Bernie, We did have some news related to 1884 01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:25,560 Speaker 6: the Buccaneers on Saturday. Their Pro Bowl center Ryan Jensen 1885 01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:29,160 Speaker 6: was placed on injured reserve with the knee injury. So 1886 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,719 Speaker 6: he is out for the season. Oh yeah, tough break. 1887 01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:36,760 Speaker 6: This set the injury going back to training camp of 1888 01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:41,080 Speaker 6: last season. He elected not to have surgery, was able 1889 01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,519 Speaker 6: to play in the playoff game. That was it, and 1890 01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:45,720 Speaker 6: then he tried to come back this year, but he's 1891 01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:46,639 Speaker 6: not gonna be able to go. 1892 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:48,479 Speaker 10: So a lot of talk if. 1893 01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:51,720 Speaker 6: This may be it for Ryan Jensen, so we will see. 1894 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:56,040 Speaker 6: Also some news for the Cleveland Browns. Coach Kevin Stefanski 1895 01:41:56,320 --> 01:42:01,879 Speaker 6: said receiver Jaqeem Grant suffered a quote significant knee injury 1896 01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:06,719 Speaker 6: during their preseason game against the Chiefs. Other NFL news, 1897 01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:09,600 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers made his debut in a Jets uniform. He 1898 01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:13,600 Speaker 6: threw a touchdown pass to Garrett Wilson. Dolphins and Jaguars 1899 01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:17,840 Speaker 6: cut their preseason game short after, Miami receiver Daywod Davis 1900 01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,879 Speaker 6: was immobilized and then carted off the field on a stretcher. 1901 01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,040 Speaker 6: He was taken to a local hospital. Dolphins announced that 1902 01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:27,800 Speaker 6: he had movement in all his extremities. Raiders are running 1903 01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:30,400 Speaker 6: back Josh Jacobs agreeing to a one year deal to 1904 01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,120 Speaker 6: end his holdout. It's worth up to twelve million with 1905 01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:37,479 Speaker 6: incentives and then with the Trey Lance trade. Cowboys quarterback 1906 01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:41,800 Speaker 6: Will Greer is reportedly set to be cut, but now 1907 01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:45,400 Speaker 6: before he bawled out in their final preseason game on Saturday. 1908 01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:49,080 Speaker 6: For Greer, three hundred and two yards completed eighty three 1909 01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:53,679 Speaker 6: percent of his passes with four total touchdowns. College football 1910 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,120 Speaker 6: had a couple of top fifteen teams in action for 1911 01:42:56,200 --> 01:43:00,719 Speaker 6: Week zero. Number six USC close early with Sam Jose State, 1912 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,120 Speaker 6: but the Trojans pull away in the second half fifty 1913 01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:06,840 Speaker 6: six to twenty eight. Caleb Williams had four touchdowns and 1914 01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,040 Speaker 6: he also had four touchdowns for New Notre Dame quarterback 1915 01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:13,360 Speaker 6: Sam Hartman. He shined in his debut as the number 1916 01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:17,720 Speaker 6: thirteen Irish Cruise pass Navy forty two to three. Some 1917 01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:20,920 Speaker 6: notable finals in baseball, the Rangers beat the Twins six 1918 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,640 Speaker 6: to two, snapping an eight game losing streak, and the 1919 01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:27,000 Speaker 6: Mariners crushed the Royals fifteen to two. Texas and Seattle 1920 01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,960 Speaker 6: still tie to top the Al West. Rain shut out 1921 01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,720 Speaker 6: the Yankees three to nothing, and the Orioles beat the 1922 01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,599 Speaker 6: Rockies five to four. Tampa is the top wildcard team 1923 01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,280 Speaker 6: in the American League and the three back of Baltimore 1924 01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,679 Speaker 6: in the division. Philly's still holding the top wildcard spot 1925 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:44,160 Speaker 6: in the NL. They cruise passed the Cardinals twelve to one, 1926 01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:47,760 Speaker 6: Cubs ten to six, winners over the Pirates Chicago in 1927 01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,960 Speaker 6: the second wild card spot, and they said four back 1928 01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,880 Speaker 6: of Milwaukee in the division, and the brewershes keep on winning. 1929 01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:57,439 Speaker 6: They've won seven straight, edging the Pirates on Saturday five 1930 01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:00,240 Speaker 6: to four. Red's top the d Backs eight to seven, 1931 01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:02,840 Speaker 6: eleven innings, since he is within half a game of 1932 01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,880 Speaker 6: Arizona for the final wildcard spot in the NL. He 1933 01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:08,280 Speaker 6: also had the Red Sox beating the Dodgers eight five, 1934 01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,559 Speaker 6: and the Braves are the best record in baseball. They 1935 01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:14,000 Speaker 6: won again seven to three against the Giants. Bernie back 1936 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,320 Speaker 6: to you, all. 1937 01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:22,160 Speaker 2: Right, Nick so hard Knock's Episode three had some moments 1938 01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:27,360 Speaker 2: worth noting. The first of which was Robert Salah giving 1939 01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:33,800 Speaker 2: this speech which he called the four levels of Competitors, right, 1940 01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:38,599 Speaker 2: and it was a little hard to follow. And there's 1941 01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:42,559 Speaker 2: something about Salo when he holds court in front of 1942 01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:47,559 Speaker 2: the room, it looks to me awkward. When he starts 1943 01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,960 Speaker 2: dropping f bomps. It doesn't sound like that's his nature. 1944 01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:55,320 Speaker 2: And when he does it, it seems to be ineffective 1945 01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,599 Speaker 2: and it feels clunky to me. But he went into 1946 01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:04,400 Speaker 2: this thing about levels of competitor and how he's really 1947 01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,679 Speaker 2: trying to preach the value of competition. But that's it's 1948 01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,559 Speaker 2: not good enough just to be a competitor. You've got 1949 01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,040 Speaker 2: to be at the level of competitor to where you're 1950 01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,080 Speaker 2: taking other people with you. You are you are not only 1951 01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:20,400 Speaker 2: competing hard, not just just because you're getting paid or 1952 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,280 Speaker 2: you're competing hard, not just because you want the glory. 1953 01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,280 Speaker 2: You're competing hard because it's in your nature. It's what 1954 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,360 Speaker 2: you do, and you do it in such a way 1955 01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:32,640 Speaker 2: and you become a force multiplier with your teammates. One 1956 01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:38,040 Speaker 2: of the other moments was I enjoyed Randall Cobb speaking 1957 01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:41,519 Speaker 2: truth about the Jets wide receivers and Aaron Rodgers and 1958 01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:43,080 Speaker 2: this is the guy you might want to listen to 1959 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:48,320 Speaker 2: because he spent ten seasons in Green Bay helping develop 1960 01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:53,200 Speaker 2: a relationship with Aaron Rodgers. And he wasn't afraid to 1961 01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,680 Speaker 2: tell the other Jets receivers that if you're going to 1962 01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:59,920 Speaker 2: work with Rogers, look, you better have your you better 1963 01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:03,479 Speaker 2: he buttoned up right. If you make mistakes, and they 1964 01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,160 Speaker 2: made a lot of mistakes in the room today and 1965 01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,400 Speaker 2: basic stuff, little stuff. He goes, we can't have that, 1966 01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,040 Speaker 2: and Randall Cobb wan want to tell him if he 1967 01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,960 Speaker 2: doesn't trust you or quote, if he don't trust you, 1968 01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:17,080 Speaker 2: he not gonna throw you the ball. And that's federal leadership. 1969 01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:18,920 Speaker 2: Randall Cobb was showing you went on to say, it's 1970 01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,439 Speaker 2: all cool right now, but I'm telling you one day 1971 01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:25,000 Speaker 2: Rogers is gonna lose his ish. It's gonna happen if 1972 01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,760 Speaker 2: it continues to go the way it's going right now, 1973 01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,840 Speaker 2: because if he don't trust you, he's not gonna throw 1974 01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:30,880 Speaker 2: you the ball. I can promise you that if you 1975 01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,800 Speaker 2: don't trust you, he don't like throwing interception. So if 1976 01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,719 Speaker 2: he don't trust you, you're not gonna run the right route. 1977 01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:40,320 Speaker 2: He is not gonna throw it now. Cob knows a 1978 01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,679 Speaker 2: thing or two what he's talking about. He caught forty 1979 01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,639 Speaker 2: seven touchdowns from Aaron Rodgers during his tenure with Green 1980 01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,639 Speaker 2: Bay and over six thousand receiving yards. By the way, 1981 01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:50,479 Speaker 2: at the end of the show, kind of a cute 1982 01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,240 Speaker 2: little moment with his two sons. His wife's pregnant and 1983 01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,240 Speaker 2: the little boy says, mom, I want to have a 1984 01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:59,519 Speaker 2: baby in my tummy too, so Izie. As the hard knocks, 1985 01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:04,519 Speaker 2: you know, twenty twenty three iteration, episode three continues going on, 1986 01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,240 Speaker 2: You're starting to see more of these human moments. I'm 1987 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,559 Speaker 2: a big Quinn Williams fan. Dude can play. He's a 1988 01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,240 Speaker 2: very rich man. He just dinked a four year, ninety 1989 01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,960 Speaker 2: six million dollar extension. But believe it or not, even 1990 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:21,679 Speaker 2: quinnin Williams has in securities. Now. They had this joint 1991 01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:25,880 Speaker 2: practice against Tampa Bay. Fights kept breaking out every two 1992 01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:31,880 Speaker 2: minutes and somebody in the Buccaneers receiving corps commented that 1993 01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:35,920 Speaker 2: Quinn Williams was well, well, it was Mike Williams, actually, 1994 01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,719 Speaker 2: he says, Mike Williams called me fat. That's what Williams 1995 01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:40,240 Speaker 2: till his teammates. He called me fat. 1996 01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:40,479 Speaker 5: Bro. 1997 01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:44,760 Speaker 2: He called me. Mike Evans called me fat, and that 1998 01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:48,800 Speaker 2: really bothered him. The camera captured that he went up 1999 01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:52,400 Speaker 2: to Mike Williams and said, Mike Evans, excuse me, and said, Bro, 2000 01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:54,680 Speaker 2: I lost weight at this offseason. I look fat and 2001 01:47:54,680 --> 01:48:00,000 Speaker 2: now I'm self conscious. Bro. One of his teammates say, well, 2002 01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,439 Speaker 2: would say you're not skinny. I think you're fit for 2003 01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:06,320 Speaker 2: a non skinny person. Do I look good to be 2004 01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:08,360 Speaker 2: three hundred pounds? Okay, cool? 2005 01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:10,640 Speaker 10: Right, that was the best part of the episode. 2006 01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,200 Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, Nick, jump in there. What did you 2007 01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:14,080 Speaker 2: have some thoughts on this? 2008 01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:16,639 Speaker 6: No, no, I just really loved the Quinn Williams thing, 2009 01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:20,040 Speaker 6: how it just really bothered him, and maybe partly that 2010 01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:22,360 Speaker 6: it was coming from Mike Evans, a guy who's a 2011 01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:25,559 Speaker 6: household name at receiver and Quinn Williams like, eh, I'm 2012 01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,880 Speaker 6: pretty good at my job. Like, yeah, I don't call 2013 01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:31,040 Speaker 6: me fat, but I love the I forget who the 2014 01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:34,599 Speaker 6: teammate was. And you're fit for non Yeah, you're fit 2015 01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:36,120 Speaker 6: for a non skinny person. 2016 01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:37,640 Speaker 10: That was the line of the night for me. 2017 01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:40,360 Speaker 2: That was that was a good line. He was honest. 2018 01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,519 Speaker 6: Mike Clemens, I feel you on Sola though it does 2019 01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:47,200 Speaker 6: it's something just that it's hard to pin down. But 2020 01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:50,639 Speaker 6: it's like I don't really buy it, and I can't 2021 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,519 Speaker 6: figure out exactly what it is. I think maybe you're 2022 01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:57,280 Speaker 6: onto it that it doesn't seem natural when when he's cursing, 2023 01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:01,320 Speaker 6: But like, I don't know. I remember John Gruden and 2024 01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:06,400 Speaker 6: he's obviously a quirky guy and he's but I bought it. 2025 01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:10,080 Speaker 6: I bought him, you know, giving those speeches in front 2026 01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:13,040 Speaker 6: of the team. But for some reason with sala it 2027 01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:14,800 Speaker 6: just doesn't quite land. 2028 01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:19,519 Speaker 2: I agree. Look, you swear. He's kind of an art form. 2029 01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,960 Speaker 2: I mean Bill O'Brien when he was on Hard Knocks 2030 01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:25,800 Speaker 2: a few years ago, he was dropping F bombs like 2031 01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,679 Speaker 2: he could have been in the cast to Harlem Knights, 2032 01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:32,280 Speaker 2: which is the all timer for F bombs. Unreal. Right now, 2033 01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:35,439 Speaker 2: when Robert Salad does it, it just feels a little 2034 01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:38,240 Speaker 2: clunky and it doesn't really feel like it's his nature. Now, 2035 01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:40,799 Speaker 2: I've played for coaches who swear and played for coaches 2036 01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:44,479 Speaker 2: that don't swear. All styles work, all styles fail. You've 2037 01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,320 Speaker 2: got to be yourself. And I know that sounds like 2038 01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:50,920 Speaker 2: trite phraseology, sounds like cliche. But if you're inauthentic. People 2039 01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:54,560 Speaker 2: have that sixth sense, right, So when Robert Salad is 2040 01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:58,080 Speaker 2: dropping those F bombs, it just doesn't sound natural to me. 2041 01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:02,519 Speaker 2: I can't tell you exactly why, but they're almost the 2042 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:06,400 Speaker 2: word loses its effectiveness when he uses it, right, he's dead. 2043 01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,559 Speaker 2: Remember at the beginning, did you see episode one? He 2044 01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,599 Speaker 2: came out with some F bombs early abought the offensive. 2045 01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:15,599 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this doesn't work now. I enjoyed that 2046 01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:20,160 Speaker 2: interaction with Quinn Williams and Mike Evans and his own teammate, 2047 01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:24,160 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna skip to the chase here, and do 2048 01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:26,840 Speaker 2: you remember the end when Woody Johnson comes in and 2049 01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,519 Speaker 2: where's that mister t Starter's kit with his big woody chain. 2050 01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:32,040 Speaker 10: Oh my gosh. I was kind of cringing at that too. 2051 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:36,519 Speaker 6: The guys seem to enjoy it, but it's like, Okay, 2052 01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:39,559 Speaker 6: here comes old guy trying to relate to the young 2053 01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:40,639 Speaker 6: guys or something. 2054 01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's good to be the king, right, and it's 2055 01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,880 Speaker 2: what's the golden rule? And he has the gold makes 2056 01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:49,559 Speaker 2: the rules. They're laughing at the boss's jokes, that's all 2057 01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:54,720 Speaker 2: they're doing. But I'm telling you though, Nick, and he's 2058 01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:58,200 Speaker 2: gonna let you weigh in on this too. Look, there 2059 01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:01,160 Speaker 2: was a subtext here. Okay, you don't get to be 2060 01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:03,640 Speaker 2: Woody Johnson. You may I'm the most popular guy. But 2061 01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:06,320 Speaker 2: look what he did. He comes walking in with that 2062 01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,040 Speaker 2: woody chain. What do you think that thing costs? Seriously? 2063 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,960 Speaker 2: Which surprised me. If it cost thirty grand I don't know. 2064 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,040 Speaker 2: What do you think a lot of bling man I have? 2065 01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:18,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say minimum five figures, but I would 2066 01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:22,280 Speaker 6: imagine it's at least six, but could be beats me. 2067 01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:25,479 Speaker 6: I haven't been in the market for anything close to 2068 01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:26,360 Speaker 6: that much buling. 2069 01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:28,599 Speaker 2: Even if I was, I wouldn't wear the damn thing. 2070 01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:30,519 Speaker 2: That's just not me. But the point I'm making here's 2071 01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:34,200 Speaker 2: where I'm going with my amateur psychology. I realize it's 2072 01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:38,000 Speaker 2: against a lot of psychology to practice psychology without a license, 2073 01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,600 Speaker 2: but I do it often. So here's the deal. He 2074 01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:44,120 Speaker 2: comes in and addresses the group, wear's the chain, takes 2075 01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:49,639 Speaker 2: off the jacket, looks dorky as hell. However, he's looking 2076 01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,280 Speaker 2: out there and saying, hey, man, I signed off on 2077 01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:56,040 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers one hundred and ten million dollars. I signed 2078 01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:59,639 Speaker 2: off on Quinna Williams ninety six million. I signed off 2079 01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:01,479 Speaker 2: on this guy. That guy I agree to bring in 2080 01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,840 Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook gave me point six million. All right, man, 2081 01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:09,559 Speaker 2: I've been spreading it. I've been spreading the chuddar. Now 2082 01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:11,519 Speaker 2: you guys got to come through for me. That's what 2083 01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:17,440 Speaker 2: I read out of that. Very calculating, perhaps not entertaining, 2084 01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:22,479 Speaker 2: although they played along right, I thought, NICKI that was 2085 01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:26,439 Speaker 2: a veiled message to the team. You know, I've given 2086 01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:30,240 Speaker 2: you the resources, I've paid the players. We've brought a 2087 01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,599 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer in here. Now it's up to you 2088 01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:36,360 Speaker 2: guys to go make it happen. Yeah, that was my read. 2089 01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:37,200 Speaker 2: What was your read? 2090 01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:42,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, honestly, I didn't really take too much from that scene, 2091 01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,040 Speaker 6: but I think you're right. I mean, it's just kind 2092 01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,840 Speaker 6: of an extension of you know, when Sala was getting 2093 01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,640 Speaker 6: on the offensive line in the previous episode. Hey, we 2094 01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:52,519 Speaker 6: got everyone else doing their job. You guys got to 2095 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:56,400 Speaker 6: do your job. There is this this pressure here because 2096 01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:59,640 Speaker 6: there's a finite amount of time that Aaron Rodgers is 2097 01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:01,479 Speaker 6: going to be playing for them, and no one knows 2098 01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:04,600 Speaker 6: if it'll be a year or two, and probably not 2099 01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:08,120 Speaker 6: beyond that. We would think, so I there is I 2100 01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:12,560 Speaker 6: think you're right that that kind of undertone underlying everything 2101 01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:15,760 Speaker 6: that Look, hey we're having fun right now training camp, 2102 01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:18,960 Speaker 6: See and Aaron throw the ball around, but we got 2103 01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:20,600 Speaker 6: to get to business and we got to make this 2104 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,720 Speaker 6: work here, and we've got a ticking clock in order 2105 01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:24,240 Speaker 6: to do it. 2106 01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, undertone, I think is the operative word here. Ethandar 2107 01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:33,320 Speaker 2: would you like to weigh in on any of these 2108 01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:34,400 Speaker 2: things that we've talked about. 2109 01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:38,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, what you guys are saying 2110 01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:43,320 Speaker 4: is pretty much everything I would say. But yeah, for 2111 01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:46,000 Speaker 4: the for the Jets, it'll just be for me. When 2112 01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:49,519 Speaker 4: I was watching it, you know, I was just it 2113 01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:53,320 Speaker 4: was came to my it was pretty obvious to me 2114 01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:55,879 Speaker 4: that the O line is no good for the Jets, 2115 01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:58,200 Speaker 4: And that's obvious, and you know that's going to be 2116 01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:01,439 Speaker 4: maybe a big issue for them. But I don't think 2117 01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,200 Speaker 4: Rogers and the receivers are gonna have much of an 2118 01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:07,760 Speaker 4: issue because Garrett Wilson, I feel like it's going to 2119 01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:11,040 Speaker 4: be an absolute stud. So even if like the other 2120 01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:12,960 Speaker 4: guys aren't picking it up, I think he's gonna have 2121 01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:13,920 Speaker 4: a breakout season. 2122 01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:17,280 Speaker 9: So, uh, Rogers is in good hands. 2123 01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:21,639 Speaker 4: He's he's an MVP he's a Super Bowl champion veteran. 2124 01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:22,400 Speaker 9: He'll be all right. 2125 01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:28,000 Speaker 2: A Rogers I think is is you know, he'll be 2126 01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,400 Speaker 2: the reason whether or not the Jets go anywhere, and 2127 01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:33,160 Speaker 2: I think that the season has to play out. For me. 2128 01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:39,560 Speaker 2: There's a there's a dynamic to Hard Knocks. It's it's 2129 01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:42,920 Speaker 2: quantum physics. The cameras are there, it's it's it's not normal. 2130 01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:45,879 Speaker 2: I think part of what Salid does is panda the cameras, 2131 01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,960 Speaker 2: and then they have sort of these gratuitous, you know, 2132 01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:52,120 Speaker 2: human interest stories. Some some work, some don't. They're not 2133 01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:55,640 Speaker 2: cutting players anymore like they used to live. But as 2134 01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:59,000 Speaker 2: far as the overall vibe of Hard Knocks this year, 2135 01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:01,400 Speaker 2: irrespective of the content, are you enjoying it or not? 2136 01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:03,200 Speaker 9: Ethan, Yeah, I'm enjoying it. 2137 01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:05,200 Speaker 4: And when it comes to Salah, I agree with you 2138 01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:08,640 Speaker 4: guys on you know, he doesn't really sound too authentic. 2139 01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:14,440 Speaker 4: He sounds like he's forcing it. But we'll see what happens. 2140 01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:16,920 Speaker 4: You know, wins and losses do the talking. 2141 01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:19,680 Speaker 2: That's it. Wins and losses do the talking. Man, it's 2142 01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:23,680 Speaker 2: it's a bottom line business coming up top of the hour. Hey, 2143 01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:26,040 Speaker 2: you know it, you love it. You can't leave without it. 2144 01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:28,480 Speaker 2: What kind of brand new fool are you? And what 2145 01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:32,040 Speaker 2: my name? You've got both Ethan and Nick jumping in 2146 01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:35,720 Speaker 2: tonight on that but coming up, We've talked a lot 2147 01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:41,680 Speaker 2: about quarterbacks tonight, from Baker Mayfield to Aaron Rodgers, to 2148 01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:45,440 Speaker 2: Bryce Young to Matt Stafford. Right on down the line. 2149 01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:49,280 Speaker 2: There's a quarterback of the NFC South that's getting a 2150 01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:54,320 Speaker 2: lot of play. He's a good dude. However, he's sixty 2151 01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:57,040 Speaker 2: three and seventy nine as a starter, and he's going 2152 01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:59,640 Speaker 2: to be the guy to put this team over the top. 2153 01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:03,640 Speaker 2: The question about this man, can he be great when 2154 01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:07,080 Speaker 2: the situation demands greatness? I'm not so sure. I'll tell 2155 01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:10,160 Speaker 2: you why, and I've brought receipts. I'm Bernie Frattle or 2156 01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:12,760 Speaker 2: come to you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports 2157 01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:16,120 Speaker 2: Radio Studios, tire Act dot Com, stick and State you 2158 01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:18,320 Speaker 2: listen to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. 2159 01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:20,560 Speaker 7: He's Mike Krman, I'm Dan Bayer, and we have a 2160 01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:24,600 Speaker 7: brand new fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex. 2161 01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:28,080 Speaker 7: Twice a week every Tuesday and Friday, we come up 2162 01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:31,520 Speaker 7: with new episodes to not only look back at what happened, 2163 01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:34,240 Speaker 7: what you need to do at that minute, and also 2164 01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:37,320 Speaker 7: look ahead of what's coming up in the fantasy football world. 2165 01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:38,120 Speaker 1: That's right, Dan. 2166 01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,640 Speaker 8: Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find 2167 01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:45,000 Speaker 8: the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup. 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Fox Sports Radio come 2177 01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,480 Speaker 2: to live after Tarak dot Com studios here in Las Vegas, 2178 01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:16,680 Speaker 2: top of the arrow. Kind of brand new fool of you, 2179 01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:20,000 Speaker 2: followed by what my name? All Right? There's high hopes 2180 01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:24,360 Speaker 2: for Derek Carr in New Orleans, Fax. As facts, he 2181 01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,160 Speaker 2: was sixty three and seventy nine as a starter for 2182 01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,840 Speaker 2: the Raiders. Not great on third down, not great in 2183 01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:32,760 Speaker 2: the red zone. He perked up. I perked up when 2184 01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:35,480 Speaker 2: he said that he was very upset the way it 2185 01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:41,040 Speaker 2: ended here, and he didn't. He thought it was money related. 2186 01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:42,720 Speaker 2: And you spend nine years in a place you have 2187 01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:44,520 Speaker 2: all the records you played at a high level. Did 2188 01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:48,760 Speaker 2: you play at high level Turk? If you did, then 2189 01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,760 Speaker 2: why was your completion percentage last year ranking twenty ninth 2190 01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:55,920 Speaker 2: among all NFL quarterbacks? Why was your pass yards per 2191 01:57:55,960 --> 01:58:02,000 Speaker 2: game ranking fifteenth among all quarterbacks? Pass yards yards per 2192 01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:08,320 Speaker 2: attempt ranked nineteenth. Touchdown to interception ratio through twenty four 2193 01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:14,440 Speaker 2: touchdowns fourteen interceptions that ranked twenty first, passer rating only 2194 01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:21,440 Speaker 2: eighty six point three that ranked twenty fourth. Now, he 2195 01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:24,320 Speaker 2: talked about playing at a high level, but he didn't 2196 01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:27,880 Speaker 2: rank in the top half in any statistical category. And 2197 01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:31,720 Speaker 2: the Raiders were loaded with offensive weapons last year. Josh 2198 01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:36,560 Speaker 2: Jacobs DeVante Adams right on down the line. So the 2199 01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:39,600 Speaker 2: bottom line is he can say he put together stats, 2200 01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:43,000 Speaker 2: those were yogi baristats because he did not lead to wins. 2201 01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:45,680 Speaker 2: If Derek Carr is going to do it in New 2202 01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:51,000 Speaker 2: Orleans again, please please save the speeches. Show me. Don't 2203 01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:54,080 Speaker 2: tell me. I actually think Atlanta is the dangerous team 2204 01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:57,200 Speaker 2: in that division. I've explained it before and I'll explain 2205 01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:59,640 Speaker 2: it again, coming up, what kind of brand new fool 2206 01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:02,440 Speaker 2: of you? Followed by what my name? Don't miss it. 2207 01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:06,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio, 2208 01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:09,240 Speaker 2: and my name is Bernie Frattle. We're coming to you 2209 01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:13,000 Speaker 2: live from the tyrac dot com studios Fox Sports Radio 2210 01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:16,800 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, Nevada, and the Bernie Frattle Show keeps 2211 01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:19,480 Speaker 2: rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frattle, which I 2212 01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:22,120 Speaker 2: just said. And by the way, tyreck dot com we'll 2213 01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:25,400 Speaker 2: help you get there and unmatch selection, fast free shipping, 2214 01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:28,800 Speaker 2: free road aster protection in over ten thousand recommend it 2215 01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:32,320 Speaker 2: installers tyraq dot com the way tire buying should be. Well, 2216 01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:35,120 Speaker 2: we've come to that juncture in the show that time 2217 01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:39,680 Speaker 2: of the week two am Pacific, five am Eastern. You 2218 01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:41,520 Speaker 2: know you love it. You can't leave without it. Because 2219 01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,400 Speaker 2: what we do is we take you around the globe 2220 01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:48,920 Speaker 2: and we chronicle the behaviors, the odd ball behaviors that 2221 01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:56,280 Speaker 2: some people love to engage in. Sometimes they're just simple, odd, stupid, 2222 01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:59,840 Speaker 2: you know, events that cause people to be find them 2223 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,400 Speaker 2: sells in an uncomfortable position. Other Times it's more nefarious, 2224 02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:07,000 Speaker 2: breaking the law. Many times they land these folks in jail. 2225 02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:11,520 Speaker 2: But anyway you slice it, these are behaviors. These are 2226 02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:15,440 Speaker 2: activities that people engage in that, no matter the result, 2227 02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:18,240 Speaker 2: they always managed to leave you scratching your head and 2228 02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:26,920 Speaker 2: asking yourself, what kind of brand new fool are you? 2229 02:00:27,640 --> 02:00:27,720 Speaker 3: So? 2230 02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:30,160 Speaker 10: What kind of brand new fool are you? 2231 02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:31,800 Speaker 4: So? 2232 02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:35,680 Speaker 2: Tonight we bring you to Koweita County, Georgia, a town 2233 02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:40,520 Speaker 2: of Arnco, Georgia, which I have never heard of. And 2234 02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:43,880 Speaker 2: I'm guessing Nick, you've heard the term porch pirate, right, 2235 02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:48,720 Speaker 2: I have, yes, And Ethan you've heard the term porch pirate, 2236 02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:51,960 Speaker 2: right yep. So we're in this weird world we're living 2237 02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:56,440 Speaker 2: in now, especially since since COVID so porch pirate is 2238 02:00:56,440 --> 02:01:01,240 Speaker 2: something we've heard of. And Robin Swang, or meet Robin 2239 02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:05,680 Speaker 2: Swanger of Kuweita County, Georgia, who's been identified as a 2240 02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:10,560 Speaker 2: porch pirate, and typically a porch pirate is a term 2241 02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:15,320 Speaker 2: that refers to a suspect, usually of stealing packages or 2242 02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:21,560 Speaker 2: items from someone's doorstep. Now investigators have dubbed Robin Swanger 2243 02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:23,960 Speaker 2: a porch pirate. Hold that thought, I'm gonna come back 2244 02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:26,120 Speaker 2: to it. But see, this is a guy that's actually 2245 02:01:26,160 --> 02:01:29,640 Speaker 2: got a body of work because deputies had recently been 2246 02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:33,560 Speaker 2: at his house because they were called there due to 2247 02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:38,600 Speaker 2: a domestic disturbance. So this gentleman actually has a body 2248 02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:41,000 Speaker 2: of work. He's been charged with a couple accounts of 2249 02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:45,360 Speaker 2: domestic vin violence, including battery, but at the time of 2250 02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:50,880 Speaker 2: his arrest, he'd also been engaged and other oddball scratchhead 2251 02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:57,040 Speaker 2: activity as a porch pirate. You see, Robin Swanger took 2252 02:01:57,080 --> 02:02:01,080 Speaker 2: it to a whole new level. What he did. He 2253 02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:05,480 Speaker 2: went past all the trust no trespassing signs, broke through 2254 02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:09,520 Speaker 2: a gate, and investigators say he even blew past several 2255 02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:14,160 Speaker 2: people when he helped himself to a wooden porch left 2256 02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:17,560 Speaker 2: on a property. Yes, it was a full eight y 2257 02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:21,800 Speaker 2: ten porch. So Robin Swanger is not only a porch 2258 02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:26,080 Speaker 2: pirate for stealing Adams, He's a porch pirate for stealing 2259 02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:28,120 Speaker 2: an entire porch. 2260 02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:32,120 Speaker 10: How did he do it? How did he take an 2261 02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:33,520 Speaker 10: eight by ten porch? 2262 02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:38,600 Speaker 6: Did he have a flatbed he pulled a. 2263 02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:40,360 Speaker 2: Well, you ask a very good question, and that is 2264 02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:44,360 Speaker 2: a detail I do not have. But according to the 2265 02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:48,240 Speaker 2: Kuwita County Sheriff's Office and an investigator by the name 2266 02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:53,320 Speaker 2: of Chris Stapler. Well, you know, he believed it probably 2267 02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:57,000 Speaker 2: took a full hour for the entry and exit. Regardless, 2268 02:02:57,320 --> 02:03:01,400 Speaker 2: he got it and it happened. Robin Swanger a legendary 2269 02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:04,480 Speaker 2: porch pirate and oh, by the way, facing charges for 2270 02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:08,280 Speaker 2: battery and domestic violence, which leaves us asking the question, 2271 02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:12,120 Speaker 2: mister Swanger, what kind of brand new fool are you? 2272 02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:15,000 Speaker 2: All right? Nickope, you've done this game before. 2273 02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:15,680 Speaker 10: What do you got for it? 2274 02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:16,040 Speaker 2: Buddy? 2275 02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:21,120 Speaker 6: All right, Bernie, We're gonna go to New England, specifically Boston, Massachusetts, 2276 02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:27,800 Speaker 6: where Donado Fradioli and Magda Masri are set to get 2277 02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:30,560 Speaker 6: married in Italy on August thirty first. 2278 02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:31,680 Speaker 10: So just around the. 2279 02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:36,040 Speaker 6: Corner you hear this story, go go go, Okay, they're 2280 02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:38,280 Speaker 6: getting ready for their wedding day, which is now just 2281 02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:41,480 Speaker 6: four days away, about a week and a half ago. Now, 2282 02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:44,360 Speaker 6: they go to Boston City Hall, which, by the way, 2283 02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:46,400 Speaker 6: is the ugliest building in the city. 2284 02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:48,040 Speaker 10: I lived there for six years. I can say that 2285 02:03:48,080 --> 02:03:48,480 Speaker 10: I know the. 2286 02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:50,400 Speaker 2: City very well. Go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2287 02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:51,640 Speaker 10: Terrible brutalist building. 2288 02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:54,520 Speaker 6: But they go, they get their marriage license, and then 2289 02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:57,480 Speaker 6: they go out to dinner to celebrate. All is going 2290 02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:00,600 Speaker 6: well until they get home, and then they find that 2291 02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:05,800 Speaker 6: their golden retriever named Chucky, which apparently is short for 2292 02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:11,000 Speaker 6: chicken cutlet, good old Chucky, he had gotten himself onto 2293 02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:14,040 Speaker 6: the counter, or got his front pause up onto the counter, 2294 02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:18,360 Speaker 6: and he had gotten a hold of Fradiroli's passport and 2295 02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:24,440 Speaker 6: proceeded to chew through multiple pages, specifically all the important 2296 02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:26,800 Speaker 6: ones in the front, in the back that have your 2297 02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:30,120 Speaker 6: idea and information, the barcode in the back. He just 2298 02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:34,640 Speaker 6: tore all that up unusable. So this of course happens 2299 02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:36,120 Speaker 6: a week before they're. 2300 02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:36,560 Speaker 10: Due to leave. 2301 02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:39,680 Speaker 6: They're freaking out. They do the smart thing. They reach 2302 02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:45,480 Speaker 6: out to their offices of local congressional representative, their senator, Fradiroli. 2303 02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:49,800 Speaker 6: He ended up getting a new passport Wednesday, and then 2304 02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:52,640 Speaker 6: they flew out on Friday, so they should be good 2305 02:04:52,640 --> 02:04:54,520 Speaker 6: to get married in a few days. So this does 2306 02:04:54,640 --> 02:05:00,320 Speaker 6: have a happy ending. But Dinado Frattioli, trusting you're a 2307 02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:04,240 Speaker 6: year and a half old golden retriever to you know, 2308 02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:07,880 Speaker 6: just sit idly by at home while you're gone for 2309 02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:09,960 Speaker 6: several hours. What kind of brand new fool? 2310 02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:12,840 Speaker 2: Are you a brand new fool? And the reason you 2311 02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:16,640 Speaker 2: heard me chockoling in the beginning, because the way that 2312 02:05:16,640 --> 02:05:19,800 Speaker 2: that verbiage rolled off your tongue and Dinato Fratioli, I'm 2313 02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:21,680 Speaker 2: thinking to myself, I think I had one of those 2314 02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:23,880 Speaker 2: one night at Pizza hunt Yeah, beside salad. You know 2315 02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:25,120 Speaker 2: what is that? Man? 2316 02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:29,000 Speaker 6: It figures the guy lives in Southea in Boston, right sah, Yeah, 2317 02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:29,320 Speaker 6: you know. 2318 02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:30,960 Speaker 2: I know that area. Well, I've actually been to the 2319 02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:34,480 Speaker 2: L Street Tavern more than once here good yeah, where 2320 02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:37,240 Speaker 2: Good Wool Hunting was uh was filmed. I'll tell you 2321 02:05:37,240 --> 02:05:40,120 Speaker 2: a story about that. Sunday A. Boston's in neat city 2322 02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:45,560 Speaker 2: and it's got a lot of diverse you know, architecture, everything, everything. Okay, 2323 02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:48,760 Speaker 2: all right, Ethan, you're a veteran this game, so we're 2324 02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:50,640 Speaker 2: expecting big things out of here. Ethan. What do you 2325 02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:51,640 Speaker 2: got for us tonight? Buddy? 2326 02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:56,560 Speaker 9: All right, We're gonna go to uh Reno, California. 2327 02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:58,760 Speaker 2: Renal, California. Is there such a place as Renal, California? 2328 02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:00,760 Speaker 10: Oh it's Nevada. 2329 02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:03,919 Speaker 9: Wait, No, I met sorry, I met Lake Tahoe. 2330 02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:05,760 Speaker 2: I met like, hey, man, it's all good. You know. 2331 02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:07,880 Speaker 2: When I woke up this morning. You know, I've been 2332 02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:08,560 Speaker 2: to Dublin, you. 2333 02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:10,640 Speaker 9: Know, I've not been to Dublin. 2334 02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:13,200 Speaker 2: I've been to Doublin, Ohio, which is in North Columbus, 2335 02:06:13,880 --> 02:06:15,000 Speaker 2: but not Dublin, Ireland. 2336 02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:21,000 Speaker 4: Bernie coming out here firing, Okay, onto Lake Tahoe, not Reno. 2337 02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:23,520 Speaker 2: It's all good. It's all good. 2338 02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:29,640 Speaker 4: So there is a what do you call it? There's 2339 02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:34,360 Speaker 4: a bear. Yeah, there's a big bear called Hank the tank. 2340 02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:38,040 Speaker 4: Hank the tank, Hank the tank that is going inside homes, 2341 02:06:38,080 --> 02:06:41,920 Speaker 4: breaking in around twenty eight homes and one hundred and 2342 02:06:41,920 --> 02:06:44,280 Speaker 4: fifty two reports. 2343 02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:46,480 Speaker 9: Of Hank the tank going into homes. 2344 02:06:47,080 --> 02:06:50,720 Speaker 4: So one of the civilians in the township of Tahoe 2345 02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:55,920 Speaker 4: Keys ended up get like putting a tent out in 2346 02:06:56,040 --> 02:07:04,640 Speaker 4: the the woods and capturing the bear. No luck. But 2347 02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:07,320 Speaker 4: you know what kind of brand new for are you? 2348 02:07:07,920 --> 02:07:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, putting a tent not to catch a bear. That's 2349 02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:10,800 Speaker 2: a new one on me. 2350 02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:12,920 Speaker 9: Man, crazy, I don't know. 2351 02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:15,919 Speaker 2: So you trap the bear in the tent. 2352 02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:20,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you had to like kill the bear with a 2353 02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:23,800 Speaker 4: gun and then you'd probably get charged with killing the bear. 2354 02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:25,520 Speaker 9: You know, it's a tough, good thought. 2355 02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:26,880 Speaker 2: Wait, by the way, did you guys see the movie 2356 02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:27,520 Speaker 2: Cocaine Bear? 2357 02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:28,200 Speaker 4: No? 2358 02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:30,320 Speaker 9: I didn't. I hear it's great, though, is it really 2359 02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:31,560 Speaker 9: that I I have? 2360 02:07:32,320 --> 02:07:34,280 Speaker 2: I haven't fired on it yet, but I might. It's 2361 02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:37,280 Speaker 2: it's making the rounds through my Netflix and ow whatever 2362 02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:39,360 Speaker 2: Prime or what have you seen Cocaine Bear? Nick? 2363 02:07:39,640 --> 02:07:40,280 Speaker 3: I have not. 2364 02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:45,080 Speaker 6: I was mildly curious if I happened to stumble upon 2365 02:07:45,160 --> 02:07:47,960 Speaker 6: it on TV or something, I'd give it a chance, 2366 02:07:48,040 --> 02:07:50,200 Speaker 6: just because it's so outrageous. By the way, I just 2367 02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:54,400 Speaker 6: know Hank the tank is apparently a female bear. So 2368 02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:56,680 Speaker 6: that yeah named Hank h. 2369 02:07:57,680 --> 02:07:59,920 Speaker 2: Well, that'd pissed him off right there. So anyway, all right, 2370 02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:03,160 Speaker 2: good stuff, Ethan, appreciate you man. All right, guys, another 2371 02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:05,720 Speaker 2: rousing edition of what kind of brand new Fool of You? 2372 02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:09,440 Speaker 2: Featuring just a little bit of about everything is in 2373 02:08:09,480 --> 02:08:12,400 Speaker 2: the books, and so we are often running to our 2374 02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:15,320 Speaker 2: second favorite bit, which we lovingly refer to as what 2375 02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:20,840 Speaker 2: my name? Here we go, all right? This week? In 2376 02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:24,280 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine, I was given a lifetime ban for 2377 02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:30,280 Speaker 2: betting on baseball, allegedly Ethan Miller. What my name? He wrote, 2378 02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:34,880 Speaker 2: Pete Rose, nicely done. Start the day with a kulk, 2379 02:08:35,120 --> 02:08:39,520 Speaker 2: Start the day with a winner. Apart, all right, this 2380 02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:41,600 Speaker 2: was a little tougher, but you guys can get it. 2381 02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:46,680 Speaker 2: This week in nineteen eighty eight, I fought Mike Tyson 2382 02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:48,840 Speaker 2: on the streets in New York at two in the morning, 2383 02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:54,920 Speaker 2: and a fight that went in to become infamous. Nick Cope, 2384 02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:57,200 Speaker 2: What my name? Oh boy? 2385 02:08:58,200 --> 02:09:00,920 Speaker 10: Uh, Larry Holmes. 2386 02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:02,560 Speaker 2: Not Larry Holmese you you're gonna remember this name when 2387 02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:06,280 Speaker 2: I say it? All right? This week in nineteen eighty eight, 2388 02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:10,120 Speaker 2: I fought Mike Tyson on the streets of New York 2389 02:09:10,160 --> 02:09:12,240 Speaker 2: City at two in the morning, in a fight that 2390 02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:15,360 Speaker 2: became infamous. Ethan Miller, What my name? 2391 02:09:16,840 --> 02:09:18,120 Speaker 9: I'm not sure I'm at the past. 2392 02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:21,960 Speaker 2: It's all good, buddy, Mitch blood Green, Google it, Mitch 2393 02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:25,000 Speaker 2: blood Green. They probably got the damn fight on YouTube. 2394 02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:29,840 Speaker 2: It became famous and infamous. All right, all right, there's 2395 02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:34,480 Speaker 2: already Heisman talk guy. Now that college football has started, 2396 02:09:35,560 --> 02:09:40,560 Speaker 2: I am the last non quarterback to win the Heisman. 2397 02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:44,160 Speaker 2: Here's a clue. I played it Alabama. Ethan Miller. 2398 02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:48,760 Speaker 9: What my name wasn't it Davante Smith not Devant? 2399 02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:53,400 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, good for you? Yes, was Devonte Smith's 2400 02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:56,600 Speaker 2: an eagle? You say my buttthan I would have been 2401 02:09:56,680 --> 02:10:00,280 Speaker 2: the brand new fool. Somehow. I had actually written down, 2402 02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:03,040 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, shame on me. 2403 02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:08,040 Speaker 6: Oh that's funny because the Alabama clue also worked. 2404 02:10:08,640 --> 02:10:11,000 Speaker 2: My goodness, good night, good night, folks. You've been a 2405 02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:14,200 Speaker 2: great audience. Don't forget to try to send my boonless spaghetti. 2406 02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:18,320 Speaker 2: Got good job, Ethan double whammy? There all right? I 2407 02:10:18,360 --> 02:10:22,640 Speaker 2: am the only two time winner of the Heisman Trophy, 2408 02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:23,760 Speaker 2: Nick Cope, What my name? 2409 02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:29,839 Speaker 6: The former running back of the Ohio State University Archie Griffith. 2410 02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:32,800 Speaker 2: There you go. You guys are on fire. Three three 2411 02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:40,320 Speaker 2: out of four so far. Continuing on with the Heisman theme, 2412 02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:46,520 Speaker 2: I am the only defensive player to win the Heisman Trophy. 2413 02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:48,240 Speaker 2: Ethan Miller. What my name? 2414 02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:56,560 Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure wasn't it, Oh? Nick, comeing out? 2415 02:10:57,240 --> 02:11:02,040 Speaker 2: S Desmond Howard Right, Desmond was actually a wide receiver 2416 02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:04,120 Speaker 2: and a kick returner. But you've got the right school 2417 02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:05,240 Speaker 2: to try it one more time. 2418 02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:07,200 Speaker 10: It's is a Charles Woodson. 2419 02:11:07,360 --> 02:11:14,280 Speaker 2: Charles Woodson. That was, of course, the great nineteen ninety 2420 02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:21,440 Speaker 2: seven season that Michigan and Nebraska won the fictional national championships. 2421 02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:24,800 Speaker 2: That year, Charles Charles had that interception where he went 2422 02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:26,600 Speaker 2: up with one hand that kind of sealed, by the 2423 02:11:26,640 --> 02:11:29,280 Speaker 2: way for posterity. I covered that team. He actually lined 2424 02:11:29,320 --> 02:11:31,640 Speaker 2: up a few times at wide receiver, but he really 2425 02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:33,640 Speaker 2: is the only defensive player to ever win the Heutsman. 2426 02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:37,440 Speaker 2: All right, this just happened this week in Major League baseball. 2427 02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:41,520 Speaker 2: All Right, I'm now batting one to eighty seven this season, 2428 02:11:42,280 --> 02:11:45,839 Speaker 2: which is the lowest average in baseball history for anyone 2429 02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:50,240 Speaker 2: who has over five hundred and fifty played appearances. Give 2430 02:11:50,280 --> 02:11:53,080 Speaker 2: you a clue, Ethan, he plays for your Phillies the midder, 2431 02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:54,640 Speaker 2: You got it. 2432 02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:56,280 Speaker 9: That would be Kyle Schwarber. 2433 02:11:56,400 --> 02:12:03,040 Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber, the pride of the University of Inana. Guys 2434 02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:07,640 Speaker 2: are just just killing it tonight. All right. Last year, 2435 02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:11,760 Speaker 2: in my first ever NFL playoff game, I threw four 2436 02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:14,880 Speaker 2: picks in the first half, but then came back and 2437 02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:17,880 Speaker 2: threw four touchdowns in the second half to lead my 2438 02:12:18,080 --> 02:12:21,360 Speaker 2: team to victory. Nick Cope, what my name? 2439 02:12:21,800 --> 02:12:24,360 Speaker 6: It's gotta be Trevor Lawrence, Right, it has gotta be 2440 02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:25,240 Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence. 2441 02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:28,920 Speaker 2: So you guys, you guys killed it, chilled it. You 2442 02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:34,240 Speaker 2: got Pete Rose to Pete Rose, Archie Griffin, Charles Woods, 2443 02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:39,280 Speaker 2: and Kyle Schwarber, Trevor Lawrence, and then my Alabama, folpash. 2444 02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:41,400 Speaker 2: Should we do one more, guys, Let's do one more? 2445 02:12:42,440 --> 02:12:45,280 Speaker 2: All right? Since I talked about the Detroit Lions in 2446 02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:49,600 Speaker 2: their playoffs and the last time they won the playoff game, 2447 02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:53,680 Speaker 2: well they actually won the division too. So the last 2448 02:12:53,720 --> 02:12:57,920 Speaker 2: time the Detroit Lions won the division, I was their 2449 02:12:57,960 --> 02:12:59,560 Speaker 2: head coach Ethan Miller. What my name? 2450 02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:03,720 Speaker 9: Oh, I'm not sure? 2451 02:13:04,360 --> 02:13:10,080 Speaker 2: All right, no problem. The last time the Detroit Lions 2452 02:13:10,120 --> 02:13:14,320 Speaker 2: won their division, I was their head coach, Nick Cope. 2453 02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:14,920 Speaker 2: What my name? 2454 02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:20,120 Speaker 10: I got no idea? I mean the only Wayne Fonts Okay. 2455 02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:24,120 Speaker 2: Wayne, Wayne Fox Captain captain Wayno, all right, Let's let's 2456 02:13:24,120 --> 02:13:25,720 Speaker 2: have one more for the hell of it. This one's 2457 02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:28,640 Speaker 2: not easy. This might surprise you, but it's pure trivia, 2458 02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:31,920 Speaker 2: Believe it or not. I had more touchdown passes in 2459 02:13:31,960 --> 02:13:36,000 Speaker 2: the National Football League all forty yards or more than 2460 02:13:36,080 --> 02:13:40,800 Speaker 2: any other starting quarterback Ethan Miller. What my name? 2461 02:13:44,240 --> 02:13:44,920 Speaker 9: Tom Brady? 2462 02:13:46,880 --> 02:13:51,080 Speaker 2: Not Tom Brady? Last season, I had more touchdown passes 2463 02:13:51,080 --> 02:13:53,200 Speaker 2: in the National Football League and forty yards or more 2464 02:13:53,560 --> 02:13:56,240 Speaker 2: than any other starting quarterback. Nick Cope, what my name? 2465 02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:02,000 Speaker 2: Joe bur Not Joe Burrow, Believe it or not. Just 2466 02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:07,360 Speaker 2: Tua to a talkab lowe because of tyrenk Hill. Oh hell, 2467 02:14:07,440 --> 02:14:09,560 Speaker 2: let's end on a good one. You guys are gone 2468 02:14:09,640 --> 02:14:13,040 Speaker 2: this way, all right? This is this week. This week 2469 02:14:13,120 --> 02:14:16,200 Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight, I set the world record 2470 02:14:16,640 --> 02:14:19,760 Speaker 2: in the one hundred meters nine point sixty nine seconds. 2471 02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:20,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna get this one, Ethan. 2472 02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:26,960 Speaker 4: You gotta isn't that a you sain bolt. 2473 02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:33,800 Speaker 2: Bamn, just like just like Angelo's on ninth and a 2474 02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:38,080 Speaker 2: cheese sticks sandwich coming through. Baby. Great job, guys, great 2475 02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:43,320 Speaker 2: job on what my name? Great job on brand new fool. 2476 02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:46,720 Speaker 2: I cannot get donaal Fradiroli out of my mouth. I 2477 02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:50,680 Speaker 2: am screwed. A great job by Mark and all the imaging, 2478 02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:55,120 Speaker 2: outstanding team effort. 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Back on the 2487 02:15:30,120 --> 02:15:34,360 Speaker 2: Bernie Frattles Show County Live from the Fox Sports Radio 2488 02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:38,600 Speaker 2: Tirack dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. Plunt it 2489 02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:41,440 Speaker 2: again to take you up to three am Pacific, six 2490 02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:45,480 Speaker 2: am Eastern. But first, more important business. We got to 2491 02:15:45,520 --> 02:15:49,680 Speaker 2: get to Ethan Miller and it's progressive power play of 2492 02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:50,040 Speaker 2: the day. 2493 02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:53,320 Speaker 12: Taylor the empty backfield throws over the middle of as complete. 2494 02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:56,960 Speaker 12: Then it's a touchdown to Dorian Singer. Touchdown USA. There 2495 02:15:57,080 --> 02:16:01,520 Speaker 12: first of the year. Dorian Singer that Arizona last year, 2496 02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:05,280 Speaker 12: a great receiver, six touchdowns, eleven hundred yards and his 2497 02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:08,640 Speaker 12: first catch as the Trojan is a t D. 2498 02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:12,680 Speaker 2: I'd like to see the Trojans do well this year. 2499 02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:18,200 Speaker 2: I am greatly concerned about that defense. Right on schedule though, 2500 02:16:18,240 --> 02:16:23,839 Speaker 2: heading into Saturday night. The last six seasons, Lincoln Riley 2501 02:16:24,560 --> 02:16:28,920 Speaker 2: money in game one wins wins by an average margin 2502 02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:31,440 Speaker 2: to thirty six and a half points. Now they beat 2503 02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:34,240 Speaker 2: San Jose State by twenty eight. So if you laid 2504 02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:36,760 Speaker 2: to thirty one, which I did not, I would have 2505 02:16:36,760 --> 02:16:39,760 Speaker 2: been tempted, but I didn't. You didn't get the cover, 2506 02:16:39,879 --> 02:16:45,600 Speaker 2: but nonetheless USC gets the win in tonight's progressive power 2507 02:16:45,600 --> 02:16:48,279 Speaker 2: play that they had brought to you by Progressive Insurance. 2508 02:16:48,720 --> 02:16:52,080 Speaker 2: Progressive makes bundling geese and affordable. Get a multi policy 2509 02:16:52,160 --> 02:16:55,520 Speaker 2: discount by combining your motorcycle, RVU, boat, ATV and more 2510 02:16:55,879 --> 02:17:00,840 Speaker 2: all your protection in one place, bundling save it Progressive Ethan. 2511 02:17:00,879 --> 02:17:03,959 Speaker 2: Are you a USC fan or that just kind of 2512 02:17:04,240 --> 02:17:11,080 Speaker 2: something that caught your fancy tonight? Are you there? My man? 2513 02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:15,800 Speaker 2: All right? Pretty good Marcell Marceau impression there? Nick your thoughts. 2514 02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:17,840 Speaker 2: I know you're not a USC guy, You're a UC other. 2515 02:17:17,720 --> 02:17:21,240 Speaker 6: Guy, right, Yeah, I am so yeah, I've been hearing 2516 02:17:21,280 --> 02:17:24,760 Speaker 6: these USC highlights all night here at the studio. But 2517 02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:27,960 Speaker 6: I mean, you can't deny how good that offense is. 2518 02:17:29,080 --> 02:17:33,959 Speaker 6: The Zachariah Branch, the freshman with that kick return. He 2519 02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:38,800 Speaker 6: also caught another touchdown. The defense still looked a little 2520 02:17:38,959 --> 02:17:41,800 Speaker 6: shaky there early on, and then once the offense was 2521 02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:44,480 Speaker 6: able to put a couple of quick scores and make 2522 02:17:44,520 --> 02:17:46,680 Speaker 6: it a two to three score game, then you think 2523 02:17:46,680 --> 02:17:49,280 Speaker 6: it sends San Jose State that they were starting to 2524 02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:52,160 Speaker 6: press a little bit. But in that first half it 2525 02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:55,040 Speaker 6: didn't seem like the defense was really all that different 2526 02:17:55,360 --> 02:17:59,520 Speaker 6: for USC than it was last year. Mistackles. You know, 2527 02:17:59,560 --> 02:18:02,400 Speaker 6: Sales States not a bad team, but they're they're a 2528 02:18:02,520 --> 02:18:06,959 Speaker 6: middling Mountain West team and they yeah, they're. 2529 02:18:06,480 --> 02:18:08,760 Speaker 2: Ping the finish fifth in the Mountain We yeah, and. 2530 02:18:08,720 --> 02:18:11,959 Speaker 6: They were reeling off some really big chunk plays in 2531 02:18:12,040 --> 02:18:14,520 Speaker 6: that first half. So, I mean, it's it's one game, 2532 02:18:14,959 --> 02:18:18,080 Speaker 6: but right out of the shoot it was very reminiscent 2533 02:18:18,120 --> 02:18:20,120 Speaker 6: of last year for USC and their defense. 2534 02:18:20,400 --> 02:18:23,640 Speaker 2: It fell reminiscent to me too. Let's not forget Utah 2535 02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:27,840 Speaker 2: took down USC and then USC had all they had 2536 02:18:27,840 --> 02:18:30,400 Speaker 2: a healthy lead against Tulane, right, they couldn't hold it. 2537 02:18:30,800 --> 02:18:32,480 Speaker 2: How do you get that taste out of your mouth? 2538 02:18:32,520 --> 02:18:35,640 Speaker 2: With all due respect to the Tulane Green Wave, the 2539 02:18:35,680 --> 02:18:38,039 Speaker 2: way they beat as seeing that ball game, that can't 2540 02:18:38,080 --> 02:18:39,720 Speaker 2: leave you with a warm and fuzzy feeling. 2541 02:18:40,400 --> 02:18:43,200 Speaker 6: No, But I think at the same time, I once 2542 02:18:43,360 --> 02:18:46,640 Speaker 6: USC lost the Pac twelve championship to Utah and they 2543 02:18:46,640 --> 02:18:50,040 Speaker 6: weren't getting in the playoff, you know, they even though 2544 02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:52,600 Speaker 6: it's still one of the New Year six, when the 2545 02:18:52,640 --> 02:18:55,800 Speaker 6: playoff was right there for you, I'm sure that you 2546 02:18:55,840 --> 02:18:58,320 Speaker 6: know it's a little bit harder to get up for that. 2547 02:18:58,520 --> 02:19:02,320 Speaker 6: But for you, USC, their front half of the schedule 2548 02:19:02,680 --> 02:19:07,360 Speaker 6: is very very manageable. Here this season, we still might 2549 02:19:07,440 --> 02:19:10,400 Speaker 6: not know a ton about USC until you get to 2550 02:19:10,480 --> 02:19:13,000 Speaker 6: mid October when they're gonna have to play Notre Dame 2551 02:19:13,080 --> 02:19:16,640 Speaker 6: on the road, and then in November in succession, you've 2552 02:19:16,680 --> 02:19:19,360 Speaker 6: got Oregon, Washington, U C. 2553 02:19:19,600 --> 02:19:19,760 Speaker 3: L A. 2554 02:19:19,879 --> 02:19:23,160 Speaker 10: I think Utah is in late October twenty first. 2555 02:19:23,280 --> 02:19:26,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, so they've got a loaded back half of the schedule. 2556 02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:29,760 Speaker 2: Well, they're gonna you know, they host Arizona and then 2557 02:19:29,800 --> 02:19:32,959 Speaker 2: they h then they then they die in frisky. 2558 02:19:33,800 --> 02:19:37,240 Speaker 6: Arizona's got they got an offense at least, but I don't. 2559 02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:39,400 Speaker 10: Know, Well, they got to get it high scoring game. 2560 02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:42,440 Speaker 2: USC gets the game at home. But here's here's what 2561 02:19:42,520 --> 02:19:46,040 Speaker 2: you gotta watch. They do have that gauntlet. The following week, 2562 02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:49,360 Speaker 2: they travel to Notre Dame and it'll be a night 2563 02:19:49,400 --> 02:19:52,160 Speaker 2: game at Notre Dame. And from what I saw from 2564 02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:55,800 Speaker 2: Sam holland Notre Dame today, uh that was that was 2565 02:19:55,840 --> 02:19:59,760 Speaker 2: an impression. Then they travel back home to play you, 2566 02:20:00,320 --> 02:20:01,640 Speaker 2: then they got to go back on the road to 2567 02:20:01,640 --> 02:20:05,359 Speaker 2: play Cal. Then you finish up with Washington, Oregon and UCLA. 2568 02:20:05,840 --> 02:20:08,080 Speaker 2: That's a bit of a gauntlet. So I don't know 2569 02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:10,360 Speaker 2: what s He's gonna do this year, although they're gonna 2570 02:20:10,400 --> 02:20:13,440 Speaker 2: be exciting on offense, that I can tell you. Hell, 2571 02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:16,320 Speaker 2: Stevie Wonder can see that. All right. Coming out, We've 2572 02:20:16,360 --> 02:20:19,440 Speaker 2: got Chris Purfenz World of Soccer, we got the kiss 2573 02:20:19,440 --> 02:20:22,360 Speaker 2: seat around the world, and even a reference to soccer 2574 02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:26,040 Speaker 2: zonn Bill Belichick talking about Jose Mourinho. So you want 2575 02:20:26,040 --> 02:20:28,120 Speaker 2: to hear that. But first let's go back to our guy, 2576 02:20:28,240 --> 02:20:29,480 Speaker 2: Nick Cope with the latest. 2577 02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:30,959 Speaker 10: All right, thank you, berniees. 2578 02:20:31,000 --> 02:20:34,480 Speaker 6: The final score of that win for USC fifty six 2579 02:20:34,600 --> 02:20:38,320 Speaker 6: twenty eight, Number six USC taking down San Jose State 2580 02:20:38,680 --> 02:20:42,280 Speaker 6: and then Notre Dame no problems against Navy forty two 2581 02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:45,879 Speaker 6: to three in favor of the number thirteen Irish. Some 2582 02:20:46,000 --> 02:20:49,160 Speaker 6: other finals, Vanderbilt had to hang on there against Hawaii, 2583 02:20:49,280 --> 02:20:52,440 Speaker 6: they led thirty five to fourteen and entering the fourth 2584 02:20:52,520 --> 02:20:55,600 Speaker 6: quarter final score ended up being thirty five twenty eight 2585 02:20:55,720 --> 02:20:59,080 Speaker 6: to the Commodoores San Diego State over Ohio. That was 2586 02:20:59,080 --> 02:21:03,199 Speaker 6: a defensive battle, twenty to thirteen. Lontec beat FIU twenty 2587 02:21:03,200 --> 02:21:07,360 Speaker 6: two to seventeen, UMass winning forty one to thirty over 2588 02:21:07,400 --> 02:21:11,840 Speaker 6: New Mexico State and at Jacksonville State, making its FBS debut, 2589 02:21:12,040 --> 02:21:16,480 Speaker 6: they beat UTEPS seventeen to fourteen. In the NFL, Dolphins 2590 02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:20,800 Speaker 6: and Jaguars ended their preseason game midway through the fourth 2591 02:21:20,840 --> 02:21:25,920 Speaker 6: quarter because Miami receiver Daywood Davis was immobilized and carted 2592 02:21:25,959 --> 02:21:28,000 Speaker 6: off the field on a stretcher. He was taken to 2593 02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:31,680 Speaker 6: a local hospital. Dolphins announced that he has movement in 2594 02:21:31,760 --> 02:21:36,200 Speaker 6: all his extremities. Aaron Rodgers made his first appearance on 2595 02:21:36,240 --> 02:21:39,880 Speaker 6: a football field in a Jets uniform and the drive 2596 02:21:39,959 --> 02:21:42,640 Speaker 6: went well. He threw a touchdown pass to Garrett Wilson 2597 02:21:42,640 --> 02:21:46,160 Speaker 6: in their preseason game against the Giants. Earlier on Saturday, 2598 02:21:46,240 --> 02:21:48,800 Speaker 6: you had the Raiders and running back Josh Jacobs agreeing 2599 02:21:48,800 --> 02:21:51,320 Speaker 6: to a one year deal worth up to twelve million, 2600 02:21:51,360 --> 02:21:56,240 Speaker 6: with the incentives ending Jacob's holdout. Brown's coach Kevin Stefanski 2601 02:21:56,280 --> 02:21:59,920 Speaker 6: said receiver Jaqem Grant suffered a significant knee injury to 2602 02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:01,359 Speaker 6: during their preseason game. 2603 02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:02,000 Speaker 10: Against the Chiefs. 2604 02:22:02,280 --> 02:22:05,400 Speaker 6: Buccaneers Pro Bowl set of Ryan Jensen placed on injured 2605 02:22:05,480 --> 02:22:08,840 Speaker 6: reserve with a knee injury. In baseball, a couple notable 2606 02:22:08,879 --> 02:22:12,840 Speaker 6: scores the Rangers finally snapped their losing streak at eight games. 2607 02:22:12,840 --> 02:22:15,560 Speaker 6: They beat the Twins six to two. Still tie to 2608 02:22:15,560 --> 02:22:17,640 Speaker 6: top the AL West because the Mariners. 2609 02:22:18,080 --> 02:22:18,760 Speaker 10: They won again. 2610 02:22:18,800 --> 02:22:22,119 Speaker 6: They crushed the Royals fifteen to two. Ray shout out 2611 02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:25,119 Speaker 6: the Yankees three zip. They're the top all wildcard team. 2612 02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:28,520 Speaker 6: Three back of Baltimore. Orioles got to win over the Ronkies. 2613 02:22:29,320 --> 02:22:32,720 Speaker 6: Cubs they beat the Pirates ten to six. Congo second 2614 02:22:32,760 --> 02:22:35,760 Speaker 6: wildcard team in the NL. Their four back of Milwaukee 2615 02:22:36,040 --> 02:22:38,920 Speaker 6: Brewers have won seven straight. They beat the Padres five 2616 02:22:38,959 --> 02:22:41,440 Speaker 6: to form Red's over the d Backs eight seven and 2617 02:22:41,480 --> 02:22:43,760 Speaker 6: eleven innings, since he is within half a game of 2618 02:22:43,800 --> 02:22:46,760 Speaker 6: Arizona for the final wildcard spot in the NL. Best 2619 02:22:46,760 --> 02:22:49,200 Speaker 6: team in baseball, the Braves won again. They beat the 2620 02:22:49,240 --> 02:22:53,360 Speaker 6: Giants seven to three. Red Sox beat the Dodgers eight five. Finally, 2621 02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:55,119 Speaker 6: in golf, you got the final round of the Tour 2622 02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:58,959 Speaker 6: Championship coming up later today. Victor Hovlin with a great 2623 02:22:59,040 --> 02:23:01,720 Speaker 6: day on Saturday. He is now six shots clear of 2624 02:23:01,760 --> 02:23:04,600 Speaker 6: the field at twenty on or Bernie, back to you 2625 02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:05,400 Speaker 6: all right. 2626 02:23:05,440 --> 02:23:09,080 Speaker 2: And by the way, those UMass minute Men opened up 2627 02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:11,280 Speaker 2: as a ten and a half point underdog at New 2628 02:23:11,320 --> 02:23:13,360 Speaker 2: Mexico State. It was bet all the way down to seven. 2629 02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:17,240 Speaker 2: It was a very popular bet among professional betters, and yep, 2630 02:23:17,320 --> 02:23:21,560 Speaker 2: they cashed. They won their first road game in quite 2631 02:23:21,640 --> 02:23:26,120 Speaker 2: some time. All Right, the World Cup may be over, 2632 02:23:26,959 --> 02:23:30,520 Speaker 2: but the world of soccer continues. There's always news. There's 2633 02:23:30,640 --> 02:23:34,000 Speaker 2: news on and off the field, and that's why every 2634 02:23:34,040 --> 02:23:36,680 Speaker 2: week at this time we bring you Chris Burffett's World 2635 02:23:36,720 --> 02:23:37,200 Speaker 2: of Soccer. 2636 02:23:38,640 --> 02:23:54,680 Speaker 1: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international Drumoi, It's 2637 02:23:54,720 --> 02:23:59,119 Speaker 1: all here in this report from the world of Soccer. Well, Bernie, 2638 02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:01,600 Speaker 1: it's been an eventful week in the world of soccer. 2639 02:24:01,640 --> 02:24:03,880 Speaker 1: So we're going to start with the champions of the 2640 02:24:03,920 --> 02:24:08,640 Speaker 1: World in Spain, where the chief of Spanish Soccer is 2641 02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:12,800 Speaker 1: refusing to resign following a firestorm of his own making. 2642 02:24:13,480 --> 02:24:15,920 Speaker 1: This past week, Spain became the Champions of the World, 2643 02:24:15,920 --> 02:24:19,000 Speaker 1: defeating England in the Women's World Cup final, and during 2644 02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:23,480 Speaker 1: the metal ceremony, Soccer Federation chief Luis Rubiales grabbed a player, 2645 02:24:23,680 --> 02:24:26,560 Speaker 1: Jennifer Hermosa, a Spanish player, and just kissed her on 2646 02:24:26,600 --> 02:24:33,160 Speaker 1: the lips, unprompted, unscripted, unwanted. Louise claims he had consents 2647 02:24:33,280 --> 02:24:35,840 Speaker 1: that was purely consensual. I don't think he understands the 2648 02:24:35,879 --> 02:24:38,320 Speaker 1: meaning of that word, because Jennifer Hermosa has said that 2649 02:24:38,520 --> 02:24:41,000 Speaker 1: at no point was consent given for him to just 2650 02:24:41,080 --> 02:24:43,879 Speaker 1: kiss her on the lips. This has created a firestorm 2651 02:24:43,879 --> 02:24:47,040 Speaker 1: of his own making and everyone wants him gone. As 2652 02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:49,560 Speaker 1: with all things in twenty twenty three, Rubiales claims he 2653 02:24:49,640 --> 02:24:54,119 Speaker 1: is the victim of quote unquote social assassination, a claim 2654 02:24:54,160 --> 02:24:57,040 Speaker 1: that just flies like an arrow with no fletching whatsoever. 2655 02:24:57,640 --> 02:25:00,759 Speaker 1: His real problem is that the backlash is pretty muchsal 2656 02:25:00,920 --> 02:25:04,520 Speaker 1: The government of Spain is seeking his suspension. Meanwhile, the 2657 02:25:04,879 --> 02:25:08,760 Speaker 1: World Championship squad all twenty three players are preparing to 2658 02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:12,560 Speaker 1: boycott and not to play for their country again while 2659 02:25:12,640 --> 02:25:15,600 Speaker 1: Rubiales remains in charge. It's just one of those moves 2660 02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:19,040 Speaker 1: that seems just utterly incredible. As always with all things 2661 02:25:19,040 --> 02:25:22,280 Speaker 1: in FIFA, these federations are being run by guys who 2662 02:25:22,360 --> 02:25:25,080 Speaker 1: just don't seem to have the script in front of them, 2663 02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:28,720 Speaker 1: who seem to have weird brains whirling in their head. 2664 02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:32,280 Speaker 13: And I think even if you have problems with some 2665 02:25:32,360 --> 02:25:35,800 Speaker 13: of the political stances that soccer players in the women's 2666 02:25:35,800 --> 02:25:37,600 Speaker 13: game take this isn't one of them. 2667 02:25:37,600 --> 02:25:39,960 Speaker 10: This is a pretty easy one. Why is this guy 2668 02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:40,600 Speaker 10: being a creep? 2669 02:25:40,840 --> 02:25:42,920 Speaker 13: Moving on, Bernie, I'm sure you and I have talked 2670 02:25:42,920 --> 02:25:47,440 Speaker 13: about Roumelo Lukaku before. Belgium's all time goal scorer, probably 2671 02:25:47,480 --> 02:25:50,160 Speaker 13: one of my favorite players who have seen play in 2672 02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:53,720 Speaker 13: the last few years, a brilliant striker of his own right, 2673 02:25:53,879 --> 02:25:56,200 Speaker 13: and unfortunately the past few years have just not been 2674 02:25:56,320 --> 02:25:57,600 Speaker 13: kind to his career. 2675 02:25:58,200 --> 02:25:59,480 Speaker 10: And yet, in. 2676 02:25:59,360 --> 02:26:02,640 Speaker 13: Spite of all that, he is the last pig piece 2677 02:26:02,959 --> 02:26:06,720 Speaker 13: set to move in this transfer window which is going 2678 02:26:06,760 --> 02:26:10,800 Speaker 13: to close here on September first. Lukaku, as I said, 2679 02:26:10,879 --> 02:26:14,480 Speaker 13: he's Belgium's leading goal scorer. He had a remarkable career 2680 02:26:14,840 --> 02:26:18,200 Speaker 13: for a long time with inter Milan. He took his 2681 02:26:18,240 --> 02:26:21,360 Speaker 13: game to Chelsea and it bombed out in a pretty 2682 02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:24,240 Speaker 13: bad way. Chelsea right now still owns his rights. He 2683 02:26:24,360 --> 02:26:26,680 Speaker 13: was on loan back to inter Milan, his old club 2684 02:26:27,240 --> 02:26:31,600 Speaker 13: last year. When he first arrived in Chelsea, it was 2685 02:26:31,640 --> 02:26:33,560 Speaker 13: greeted with a lot of fanfare. This was a big 2686 02:26:33,560 --> 02:26:36,840 Speaker 13: striking piece they could really use, but Lukaku really never 2687 02:26:36,920 --> 02:26:40,200 Speaker 13: panned out for them, and now relations have gotten so 2688 02:26:40,280 --> 02:26:42,840 Speaker 13: bad with the club that Lukaku hasn't spoken with their 2689 02:26:42,920 --> 02:26:46,120 Speaker 13: new coach since July first. He's done with the club 2690 02:26:46,120 --> 02:26:48,440 Speaker 13: and he's ready to go somewhere else, which now leaves 2691 02:26:48,480 --> 02:26:51,320 Speaker 13: us with two questions. One where could he go? And 2692 02:26:51,360 --> 02:26:54,240 Speaker 13: two could Lucaku still even be good as where he 2693 02:26:54,240 --> 02:26:58,000 Speaker 13: could go? Bernie, that's kind of a little complicated. Lukaku 2694 02:26:58,040 --> 02:27:00,520 Speaker 13: himself has some power in this and he rejected proposal 2695 02:27:00,520 --> 02:27:02,440 Speaker 13: that would have seen him go to the Saudi club 2696 02:27:02,720 --> 02:27:06,600 Speaker 13: Al Halal. As Saudi Arabia continues to make their footprint 2697 02:27:06,680 --> 02:27:09,840 Speaker 13: for the Saudi Super League known in this transfer window, 2698 02:27:09,879 --> 02:27:12,960 Speaker 13: it's alarmed a lot of English clubs in the relentless 2699 02:27:13,080 --> 02:27:17,280 Speaker 13: courting of big names. It's caused several managers to weigh 2700 02:27:17,320 --> 02:27:19,440 Speaker 13: in on just how much money they have thrown around 2701 02:27:19,480 --> 02:27:22,880 Speaker 13: to get names like Lukaku and other players. Many of 2702 02:27:22,920 --> 02:27:25,840 Speaker 13: those players have rejected it. Lukaku happens to be one 2703 02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:28,240 Speaker 13: of them as well. Inter Milan was in the cards, 2704 02:27:28,240 --> 02:27:31,680 Speaker 13: but apparently there was a fan backlash reportedly that has 2705 02:27:31,879 --> 02:27:35,160 Speaker 13: taken that off the table. In Milan has now withdrawn 2706 02:27:35,200 --> 02:27:40,840 Speaker 13: that proposal. Two more Italian clubs in play, Juventus and Roma. Juventus, 2707 02:27:40,879 --> 02:27:43,119 Speaker 13: of course, is always in the market for big names, 2708 02:27:43,440 --> 02:27:47,640 Speaker 13: but apparently, according to some reports and rumors, Lukaku isn't 2709 02:27:47,680 --> 02:27:51,039 Speaker 13: really that keen on playing with Juventus. That leaves Roma 2710 02:27:51,120 --> 02:27:53,520 Speaker 13: and Ruma is intriguing for a lot of reasons, mostly 2711 02:27:53,560 --> 02:27:56,840 Speaker 13: because Jose Mourinho, who we've talked about before, Bernie, I 2712 02:27:56,879 --> 02:27:59,680 Speaker 13: know you love Jose Mourinho, was a manager that has 2713 02:27:59,760 --> 02:28:03,520 Speaker 13: worked with Lukaku for many, many years. A reunion could 2714 02:28:03,520 --> 02:28:05,920 Speaker 13: be in the cards. We'll have to see as the 2715 02:28:05,959 --> 02:28:10,840 Speaker 13: window keeps closing. As for whether Lukaku is still good, 2716 02:28:11,040 --> 02:28:14,280 Speaker 13: I believe so. I believe he's just been under the 2717 02:28:14,320 --> 02:28:16,680 Speaker 13: management of some pretty bad fits in the past few 2718 02:28:16,720 --> 02:28:19,680 Speaker 13: years at Chelsea and inter Milan, and a fresh change 2719 02:28:19,720 --> 02:28:22,400 Speaker 13: of scenery is exactly what he needs. He's thirty years 2720 02:28:22,440 --> 02:28:26,120 Speaker 13: old for this year, he's entering that last stage of 2721 02:28:26,120 --> 02:28:28,640 Speaker 13: his prime and he absolutely still has at least a 2722 02:28:28,680 --> 02:28:31,320 Speaker 13: few good years under him. I think he just needs 2723 02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:34,200 Speaker 13: the right spot. And finally, Bernie, we close it with 2724 02:28:34,440 --> 02:28:39,440 Speaker 13: talking about a very somber story here as San Diego, 2725 02:28:39,600 --> 02:28:41,840 Speaker 13: in spite of getting an MLS club, is going to 2726 02:28:41,879 --> 02:28:45,480 Speaker 13: be saying farewell to one of their clubs, San Diego Loyal, 2727 02:28:45,480 --> 02:28:49,800 Speaker 13: who plays in the USL Championship will be folding following 2728 02:28:49,840 --> 02:28:53,200 Speaker 13: the twenty twenty three season. This is notable for several reasons. 2729 02:28:53,400 --> 02:28:57,320 Speaker 13: Loyal was founded and co owned by Landon Donovan, the 2730 02:28:57,760 --> 02:29:00,720 Speaker 13: All American great who played for them men's team for 2731 02:29:00,760 --> 02:29:03,080 Speaker 13: so many years. A lot of the reasons why they're 2732 02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:05,800 Speaker 13: closing has been that they have cited problems with finding 2733 02:29:05,800 --> 02:29:08,160 Speaker 13: a near and long term stadium solution. Right now, they 2734 02:29:08,200 --> 02:29:11,000 Speaker 13: play at the University of San Diego or six thousand 2735 02:29:11,080 --> 02:29:13,720 Speaker 13: Seed Venue. They were trying to seek a modular stadium 2736 02:29:13,720 --> 02:29:17,600 Speaker 13: of about fifteen to twenty thousand people to be seated there. 2737 02:29:18,040 --> 02:29:21,640 Speaker 13: But it strikes odd because it's not like USL clubs, 2738 02:29:21,640 --> 02:29:25,240 Speaker 13: and if you're unfamiliar with USL, USL forms the next 2739 02:29:25,280 --> 02:29:29,279 Speaker 13: tier of what in the soccer period of play below MLS. 2740 02:29:29,320 --> 02:29:32,600 Speaker 13: It's nothing as formal as say the English Football League 2741 02:29:32,600 --> 02:29:36,200 Speaker 13: and the Premier League in England, but it's kind of 2742 02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:40,400 Speaker 13: the assumed pecking order of American soccer. We've seen clubs 2743 02:29:40,400 --> 02:29:42,800 Speaker 13: full before down there, but they've always kind of given 2744 02:29:42,879 --> 02:29:45,600 Speaker 13: hints that we're in some sort of economic trouble. I 2745 02:29:45,640 --> 02:29:47,039 Speaker 13: think a lot of this has to do with the 2746 02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:49,760 Speaker 13: fact that MLS is committed to putting a team in 2747 02:29:49,879 --> 02:29:53,520 Speaker 13: San Diego and Loyal. I believe the people in charge 2748 02:29:53,560 --> 02:29:56,119 Speaker 13: realize that they are about to get crushed by this 2749 02:29:56,160 --> 02:29:59,000 Speaker 13: new thing coming. USL clubs offer a lot more of 2750 02:29:59,040 --> 02:30:04,240 Speaker 13: a grassroot, this organization of fans and fan culture for soccer, 2751 02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:07,800 Speaker 13: versus something like MLS, which is wholly owned by massive 2752 02:30:07,840 --> 02:30:10,760 Speaker 13: billionaires who then go and buy a club and give 2753 02:30:10,879 --> 02:30:13,760 Speaker 13: MLS money to own that club. I would have thought 2754 02:30:13,760 --> 02:30:16,120 Speaker 13: support would continue for it in spite of the fact 2755 02:30:16,160 --> 02:30:20,840 Speaker 13: that there would be something like a MLS San Diego team, 2756 02:30:20,879 --> 02:30:23,800 Speaker 13: but apparently not, and we are starting to give up 2757 02:30:23,800 --> 02:30:24,160 Speaker 13: the ghost. 2758 02:30:24,240 --> 02:30:25,119 Speaker 10: It's a sad day. 2759 02:30:25,240 --> 02:30:28,400 Speaker 13: San Diego Loyal was one of the more cherish clubs 2760 02:30:28,400 --> 02:30:30,320 Speaker 13: in the USL, and it's sad to see them go. 2761 02:30:30,879 --> 02:30:32,680 Speaker 13: That's gonna do it for the world of soccer, Bernie, 2762 02:30:32,760 --> 02:30:35,680 Speaker 13: as always, We'll see you next time, all. 2763 02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:37,959 Speaker 2: Right, Chris Pohfet's World of Soccer. By the way, he's right, 2764 02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:40,440 Speaker 2: I do like Jose Mourinho. I get a kick out 2765 02:30:40,440 --> 02:30:44,320 Speaker 2: of him. Chris invoked his name when we first started 2766 02:30:44,360 --> 02:30:49,440 Speaker 2: doing this little feature about eighteen months ago, prior to 2767 02:30:50,160 --> 02:30:53,320 Speaker 2: the lead into Men's World Cup, which was last fall. 2768 02:30:53,520 --> 02:30:57,000 Speaker 2: You recall we started in the summer. And Jose Mourinho, 2769 02:30:57,000 --> 02:30:58,800 Speaker 2: if you do some research, he's kind of like he's 2770 02:30:58,920 --> 02:31:02,520 Speaker 2: very much what I would call the European soccer's version 2771 02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:08,520 Speaker 2: of Bill Belichick in many many ways. So that Earling Holland. 2772 02:31:08,560 --> 02:31:10,279 Speaker 2: You know, you hear the names, you hear the events, 2773 02:31:10,320 --> 02:31:14,280 Speaker 2: and it never ends. So Chris purfets World of Soccer 2774 02:31:14,360 --> 02:31:19,040 Speaker 2: coming up? Can Georgia? Can the Georgia Bulldogs? Three pete? 2775 02:31:19,400 --> 02:31:23,240 Speaker 2: I say, yes they can, and yes, you know it 2776 02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:26,440 Speaker 2: hasn't been done in ninety years. I'll tell you who 2777 02:31:26,480 --> 02:31:30,080 Speaker 2: the last team did it, who had done it? And 2778 02:31:30,080 --> 02:31:33,400 Speaker 2: by the way, why hasn't it been done in ninety years. 2779 02:31:33,840 --> 02:31:36,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the reason why, and it's there 2780 02:31:36,080 --> 02:31:38,280 Speaker 2: right in front of you. You don't stop to think 2781 02:31:38,280 --> 02:31:40,520 Speaker 2: about it. But when I tell you, you're gonna be going, 2782 02:31:41,320 --> 02:31:44,039 Speaker 2: you know you're right. That's why it hasn't been done 2783 02:31:44,080 --> 02:31:46,560 Speaker 2: in ninety years. I'm Bernie Frattle. Where coming to you? 2784 02:31:46,640 --> 02:31:49,680 Speaker 2: Live in Las Vegas? Fox Sports Radio, Tirack dot Com studios. 2785 02:31:49,760 --> 02:31:52,240 Speaker 2: Keep it locked. Listen to the Bernie Frattle Show Fox 2786 02:31:52,240 --> 02:31:58,520 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. All right, we are wrapping it up on 2787 02:31:58,640 --> 02:32:00,960 Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show. Come to you live for the 2788 02:32:01,080 --> 02:32:04,600 Speaker 2: Tarak dot Com studio is Fox Sports Radio here in 2789 02:32:04,800 --> 02:32:08,120 Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Before I go any further, I want to 2790 02:32:08,120 --> 02:32:10,600 Speaker 2: thank my broadcast team and they have been with me 2791 02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:18,240 Speaker 2: since eleven pm Pacific time Saturday night. Patrick SWEEKA was 2792 02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:22,199 Speaker 2: with us the first hour and Ethan Miller took over 2793 02:32:22,320 --> 02:32:27,959 Speaker 2: for him and joined us from midnight to three Pacific 2794 02:32:28,520 --> 02:32:33,560 Speaker 2: three to six Eastern. Of course, our technical producer Mark Ramsey, 2795 02:32:33,640 --> 02:32:36,560 Speaker 2: great job tonight keeping the show tight with all the 2796 02:32:36,600 --> 02:32:40,119 Speaker 2: imaging and let's not forget Nick Cope, our update anchor. 2797 02:32:40,959 --> 02:32:43,720 Speaker 2: Also Guys chiming In. Great job on brand new fool, 2798 02:32:43,760 --> 02:32:47,000 Speaker 2: what My Name and the various other sundry items that 2799 02:32:47,080 --> 02:32:53,160 Speaker 2: we have chopped up on this week zero of college football, 2800 02:32:53,240 --> 02:32:57,199 Speaker 2: among other things. Well, so now the college football is back. 2801 02:32:57,240 --> 02:32:59,720 Speaker 2: It is officially back, and we'll have a slate Thursday 2802 02:32:59,800 --> 02:33:02,440 Speaker 2: night and then well in the next weekend. It is here. 2803 02:33:02,560 --> 02:33:05,879 Speaker 2: See it takes so long, It wasn't so bad. And 2804 02:33:06,040 --> 02:33:08,840 Speaker 2: like I said earlier, look, you know you can make 2805 02:33:08,840 --> 02:33:10,600 Speaker 2: fun of week zero, but it's like when your buddy 2806 02:33:10,600 --> 02:33:12,920 Speaker 2: invites you over to have a pizza and you get 2807 02:33:12,920 --> 02:33:14,360 Speaker 2: over there and you say, what are we gonna have tonight, 2808 02:33:14,400 --> 02:33:15,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna have deep dish, or we're gonna have a 2809 02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:19,640 Speaker 2: you know, Chicago style or New York. Then what and 2810 02:33:19,680 --> 02:33:21,800 Speaker 2: he serves a frozen pizza, you might, you know, you 2811 02:33:21,879 --> 02:33:23,879 Speaker 2: might give him a sade. After two seconds, then you're 2812 02:33:23,920 --> 02:33:26,520 Speaker 2: diving into that pizza because you like pizza. Well, Week 2813 02:33:26,640 --> 02:33:28,440 Speaker 2: zero is kind of like frozen pizza. It's not your 2814 02:33:28,480 --> 02:33:31,360 Speaker 2: first choice, but you ain't complaining. You're gonna you know, 2815 02:33:31,400 --> 02:33:33,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna put it. It's gonna be headed straight for 2816 02:33:33,360 --> 02:33:36,840 Speaker 2: your face. All right, I'm glad college football's back. I 2817 02:33:36,879 --> 02:33:40,920 Speaker 2: thoroughly enjoyed today. Are already there are story lines developing. 2818 02:33:41,280 --> 02:33:44,600 Speaker 2: One of of course, the biggest one is can Georgia 2819 02:33:44,640 --> 02:33:48,800 Speaker 2: three peet Now, unbeknownst to most, there actually was a 2820 02:33:48,879 --> 02:33:51,600 Speaker 2: college that did this. They did it in nineteen thirty four, 2821 02:33:51,720 --> 02:33:53,720 Speaker 2: thirty five, and thirty six. That would be, of course, 2822 02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:57,520 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Golden Gophers. Why did I say, of course twice? 2823 02:33:57,520 --> 02:34:00,880 Speaker 2: I hate when I do that, the Minnesota Golden Gophers. 2824 02:34:01,400 --> 02:34:05,400 Speaker 2: So why hasn't a team We're three petd as pat 2825 02:34:05,440 --> 02:34:09,320 Speaker 2: Riley would say, in the last ninety years, I have 2826 02:34:09,480 --> 02:34:12,440 Speaker 2: decided on a reason, and I'm securing the knowledge that 2827 02:34:12,480 --> 02:34:16,800 Speaker 2: this reason makes a lot of sense because until only recently, 2828 02:34:18,320 --> 02:34:22,360 Speaker 2: the damn thing was decided on the field. Prior to that, 2829 02:34:22,520 --> 02:34:25,360 Speaker 2: it was left to the you know, the whims of 2830 02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:31,480 Speaker 2: voters for ap and upi hey. Nineteen seventy eight, USC 2831 02:34:31,560 --> 02:34:34,120 Speaker 2: went down to Alabama, kicked their tail, I relieved in 2832 02:34:34,160 --> 02:34:36,760 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven. Late in the fourth quarter, Alabama 2833 02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:39,720 Speaker 2: got an excuse me touchdown. That USC team was phenomenal, 2834 02:34:39,959 --> 02:34:44,080 Speaker 2: went on to beat Michigan and the Rose Bowl, and 2835 02:34:45,440 --> 02:34:47,960 Speaker 2: they split the championship with Bama, even though USC beat 2836 02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:53,240 Speaker 2: Bama and Obama. But the greater, the more egregious omission 2837 02:34:53,320 --> 02:34:59,440 Speaker 2: for me, the nineteen sixty six Alabama Crinston Tide. There's 2838 02:34:59,440 --> 02:35:02,280 Speaker 2: no reason they should have not been awarded the national 2839 02:35:02,360 --> 02:35:05,920 Speaker 2: championship in nineteen sixty six because but it wasn't. But 2840 02:35:05,959 --> 02:35:08,440 Speaker 2: they weren't because it wasn't decided on the field. That 2841 02:35:08,560 --> 02:35:11,200 Speaker 2: Alabama team had won the championship in sixty four and 2842 02:35:11,240 --> 02:35:13,600 Speaker 2: sixty five, and then what are they do in sixty six? 2843 02:35:13,680 --> 02:35:16,840 Speaker 2: They go eleven to zero, eleven and oh they had 2844 02:35:16,959 --> 02:35:20,320 Speaker 2: six shutouts. And in the final game of the season, 2845 02:35:20,959 --> 02:35:24,440 Speaker 2: they play Nebraska in the Sugar Bowl and they molly 2846 02:35:24,480 --> 02:35:27,119 Speaker 2: wop them, as Kevin Figures would say, thirty four to seven, 2847 02:35:27,959 --> 02:35:31,560 Speaker 2: and they're not awarded the national championship. It was awarded 2848 02:35:31,560 --> 02:35:36,200 Speaker 2: to Michigan State and Notre Dame. They split it because 2849 02:35:36,200 --> 02:35:39,240 Speaker 2: they tied ten ten and what some folks believe is 2850 02:35:39,240 --> 02:35:41,400 Speaker 2: one of the greatest games of all time ten ten 2851 02:35:41,480 --> 02:35:44,800 Speaker 2: tie nineteen sixty six. Tell me Bama got robbed. Here's 2852 02:35:44,800 --> 02:35:49,600 Speaker 2: what's really odd about this because the nineteen sixty four 2853 02:35:49,720 --> 02:35:53,440 Speaker 2: Alabama team which actually won the national championship, lost to 2854 02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:56,840 Speaker 2: Texas in their bowl game in the final, in their 2855 02:35:56,879 --> 02:36:00,720 Speaker 2: final contest of the season, and yet they are awarded 2856 02:36:00,879 --> 02:36:04,120 Speaker 2: the national championship. Go figure. That's why there hasn't been 2857 02:36:04,120 --> 02:36:07,720 Speaker 2: a three peat because up until recently it was voted on, 2858 02:36:08,720 --> 02:36:11,640 Speaker 2: not decided on the field, and I think the voters 2859 02:36:11,640 --> 02:36:14,800 Speaker 2: were just not gonna give Bama a break in sixty six. Now, 2860 02:36:14,879 --> 02:36:16,960 Speaker 2: winning the national championship three years in a rows no 2861 02:36:17,040 --> 02:36:19,480 Speaker 2: easy task, but I believe Georgia's position to do it. 2862 02:36:19,879 --> 02:36:23,160 Speaker 2: They're loaded, they got to replace their quarterback. You're gonna 2863 02:36:23,160 --> 02:36:25,320 Speaker 2: meet Carson Beck, You're gonna hear about them. But you 2864 02:36:25,440 --> 02:36:28,720 Speaker 2: still got Lad McConkey. You still got brock Bauers. They 2865 02:36:28,800 --> 02:36:33,280 Speaker 2: got two stud transfer portal receivers from Mississippi State Missouri guys. 2866 02:36:33,320 --> 02:36:36,920 Speaker 2: You're gonna hear Bart roerh Thomas, Dominic Levitt. They'll make 2867 02:36:36,959 --> 02:36:40,680 Speaker 2: a major impact. How about the offensive line, Bet you 2868 02:36:40,720 --> 02:36:45,480 Speaker 2: didn't know. Georgia returns four starters. Four guys were starting 2869 02:36:45,520 --> 02:36:49,560 Speaker 2: experience and that is the core of your football team. 2870 02:36:49,879 --> 02:36:52,879 Speaker 2: Georgia's defense, believe it or not, twenty twenty two was 2871 02:36:52,920 --> 02:36:56,320 Speaker 2: allegedly the rebuilding year on defense. It's clear to see 2872 02:36:56,320 --> 02:36:58,800 Speaker 2: when you look at the returning production. You start naming 2873 02:36:58,840 --> 02:37:01,959 Speaker 2: the names. Georgia loaded on defense, load it on offense. 2874 02:37:02,160 --> 02:37:03,959 Speaker 2: Their special teams will be good again. And in the 2875 02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:07,680 Speaker 2: final analysis, I don't think Georgie is going anywhere. They'll 2876 02:37:07,680 --> 02:37:10,600 Speaker 2: have another elite defense, a big playoffense, and let's not 2877 02:37:10,720 --> 02:37:14,720 Speaker 2: forget a very manageable schedule. Take a look at their schedule. 2878 02:37:15,040 --> 02:37:17,000 Speaker 2: They're gonna be heavily favored in every game until they 2879 02:37:17,000 --> 02:37:19,960 Speaker 2: get to Neil and Tennessee November seventh. They'll be favored 2880 02:37:19,959 --> 02:37:22,600 Speaker 2: in that game. Not by a lot, but they'll be favored. 2881 02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:25,720 Speaker 2: I don't see them tripping up, which means they get 2882 02:37:25,760 --> 02:37:28,160 Speaker 2: into the SEC championship game. This is where they live. 2883 02:37:28,440 --> 02:37:30,959 Speaker 2: And if they're undefeated and lose, they can still be 2884 02:37:31,000 --> 02:37:34,320 Speaker 2: invited to the Big Dance. And if Georgia gets back 2885 02:37:34,360 --> 02:37:37,640 Speaker 2: into the playoffs, they'll close the deal. That's where they live. Yeah, 2886 02:37:37,680 --> 02:37:41,840 Speaker 2: I think Georgia is going to three peat. We shall see. 2887 02:37:42,280 --> 02:37:44,400 Speaker 2: It's gonna do it for the Bernie Frattle Show. But 2888 02:37:44,480 --> 02:37:46,960 Speaker 2: don't go anywhere, keep it locked right here. Up next, 2889 02:37:47,200 --> 02:37:50,840 Speaker 2: They're great. Andy Furman on Fox Sports Radio,