WEBVTT - Bitcoin ETF Explosion: Navigating the Financial Waters Post-Approval

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Mark Moss Show,

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<v Speaker 1>where we're always talking about, of course, the decentralized revolution,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the way the world is breaking apart. We

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<v Speaker 1>look at it through the lenses of politics, finance, and technology,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course that technology is bitcoin. It's a decentralized

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<v Speaker 1>technologist changing the world. And wow, have we had big

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<v Speaker 1>news this week. Now. Shouldn't be a big surprise because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been talking about it for a long time, but

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<v Speaker 1>all of this talk, all of this conjecture, all this

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<v Speaker 1>speculation finally came to pass this last week with the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC finally approving a bitcoin ETF, and not just approving

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<v Speaker 1>a bitcoin ETF, but approving eleven bitcoin ETFs, and it

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<v Speaker 1>went off with massive amount of fireworks. You do not

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<v Speaker 1>want to miss out on this, So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>break down what exactly happened, what happened before God approved

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<v Speaker 1>that basically shook the entire market and caused a massive problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to dig into that and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about exactly what happened the eleven that got approved,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're already seeing already, the good actors, the bad actors,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones you need to stay away from the ones

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<v Speaker 1>you should be using instead and what you could be

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<v Speaker 1>expecting in the days and weeks ahead. We're gonna cover

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<v Speaker 1>all that and more. You do not want to miss this,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't walk away from wherever you're listening to this.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna dig into this, but let's just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this for a minute. First of all, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the ETF got approved. Now, what does the

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<v Speaker 1>ETF even mean? For those of you that don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just break it down for you real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an exchange traded fund. So it's basically a fund

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<v Speaker 1>that pools assets together and allows you to buy them

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<v Speaker 1>to the very easily. Now, ETFs have mainly been around

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<v Speaker 1>for things that are hard to buy. Specifically, they work

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<v Speaker 1>really well for commodities. So think like uranium. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>really buy uranium, you can't really store it. Oil you

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<v Speaker 1>can't really store oil, and so you can buy them

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<v Speaker 1>through an ETF a fund. But they are also you

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<v Speaker 1>can make a basic an ETF for anything. So I

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<v Speaker 1>could just come up with a theme like the decentralized theme.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, I could put a whole bunch of companies

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<v Speaker 1>stocks into this basket that fit into this theme. Of decentralization,

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<v Speaker 1>and it could be a decentralized ETF for example, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what we're talking about here, we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin ETF. Now. They've been trying to get bitcoin ETFs

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<v Speaker 1>through for years and years and years, and the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>has continually denied them over and over and over again

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<v Speaker 1>for unknown reasons. In twenty seventeen, we saw commodity futures

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<v Speaker 1>trading open up for bitcoin, so we could trade bitcoin futures,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, protected another form of a regulated

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<v Speaker 1>and protected trade in the United States. So futures have

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<v Speaker 1>been okay, but not ETFs. Why is that, Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know, but we have some speculation. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>it is because the SEC, the government, Gary Gins or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it, doesn't want a bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>ETF to go through for any number of reasons. Potentially

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want the number to go up. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>when you do a futures you're basically betting on the price.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not buying bitcoin, you're just betting that the price

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<v Speaker 1>will be higher or lower, and you're settling in cash.

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<v Speaker 1>These ETFs are spot etf. So what that means is

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<v Speaker 1>if you put a dollar into the bitcoin ETF, that

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<v Speaker 1>ETF now has to go buy a dollar worth of

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin on the market. And if you know anything about economics,

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<v Speaker 1>economics one on one, all prices move on supply and demand.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have more demand, more people trying to

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<v Speaker 1>buy bitcoin through the ETFs and they have to go

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<v Speaker 1>buy it, then it's going to then push the price up,

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<v Speaker 1>assuming that the demand stays the same or even goes down,

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll talk about because the supply, the fly goes down,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna talk about that. Because the supply is

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<v Speaker 1>going down, it's known as the having event, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's sort of the high level this ETF potentially

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to go through. Now it started to

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<v Speaker 1>escalate because you know, more and more company started putting

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<v Speaker 1>these ETFs proposals through, and the SEC has been denying

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<v Speaker 1>these things for years, no big deal, but people have

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<v Speaker 1>been continue to push back, push back, push back. Gray

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<v Speaker 1>Scale took them to court and basically the SEC lost

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<v Speaker 1>because they said that, hey, you guys really have no

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<v Speaker 1>reason to deny these things. Now, things really escalated when

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<v Speaker 1>Blackrock put their ETF proposal through. When Blackrock put their

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<v Speaker 1>ETF proposal through, I basically knew it was a done deal. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Blackrock operates as sort of a semi quasi arm of

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<v Speaker 1>the government. We've seen through twenty twenty the banking crisis

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty three, where they work on behalf of

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<v Speaker 1>the government to do things right. So that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>call them like a semi quasi arm of the government.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Blackrock, which dominates the ETF space by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>put an ETF proposal through dominating the ETF space working

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<v Speaker 1>with the government, it was like, come on, of course

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to get this through. Like they would not

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<v Speaker 1>have done this if they didn't know that they could

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<v Speaker 1>have already got it through. And so we knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was already a done deal. I knew it was a

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<v Speaker 1>done deal. We've been talking about this for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>The only question came down to when. It wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of if, it was a matter of when and

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<v Speaker 1>a question of what would happen after the fact. And

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<v Speaker 1>so here we have it. They got approved and we've

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<v Speaker 1>been seeing fireworks now. I made a video back back

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<v Speaker 1>the first week of December, I think December fourth, and

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<v Speaker 1>the title of that video was warning about the approval

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<v Speaker 1>of a bitcoin ETF. I wanted to warn people. So

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<v Speaker 1>far it seems to be right. But I want to

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<v Speaker 1>just highlight a couple of things I talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>that video. First of all, if you listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>show on a regular basis, you already know I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about bitcoin all the time. I'm not one of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys on YouTube or podcast or radio, well nobody on

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<v Speaker 1>radio that just jumps on the band where I can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about bitcoin. And I don't want to be like

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<v Speaker 1>I told you so either, But let's do a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit I told you so. So let's see here, let's

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<v Speaker 1>recount some of this, just including YouTube below. In June

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty two, when bitcoin was nineteen thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, new data reveals the real bitcoin value? Should

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<v Speaker 1>you buy now? This June twenty two, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thousand July of twenty two, I said, do these

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<v Speaker 1>charts show it's time to buy bitcoin? And it was

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<v Speaker 1>at nineteen thousand. Then we can fast forward. We go

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<v Speaker 1>to October of twenty twenty two, I said, will bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>go Because people still thought it was going to drop,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, will it go to twelve thousand or go

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<v Speaker 1>up to thirty thousand? First that was October twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>It was at eighteen thousand. All these chances you had

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<v Speaker 1>to buy. November of twenty twenty two, I made a

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<v Speaker 1>video called the Great Reset of Cryptos Happening. Bitcoin was

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<v Speaker 1>at fifteen thousand, nine hundred. You had a chance to buy.

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<v Speaker 1>January of seventeen. January seventeenth of twenty twenty three, a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago, I said, new data tells us it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to buy. It was at twenty thousand. Another video January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty third. January twenty twenty three, I said, break king

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<v Speaker 1>data shows the FED pivot is here. Do this now?

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<v Speaker 1>And the do this now was to buy bitcoin. March

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty three, I said bitcoin. The title was

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin is pumping by now or wait? Of course I

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<v Speaker 1>said to buy. That was a twenty six thousand. May

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty three, I said, FED data shows they

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<v Speaker 1>control bitcoin. What's next? And of course I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to say they can't really control it. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six thousand, So anyway I could go on. You

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<v Speaker 1>get the point. We've made lots of these, but I

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<v Speaker 1>made this video talking about the approval bitcoin. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a warning there. What was the warning? The warning was

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<v Speaker 1>that once this ETF got approved, we could potentially see

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<v Speaker 1>a selloff happen in the price of bitcoin. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I said that is because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people were expecting that as soon as this ETF got approved,

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<v Speaker 1>there'd be a massive run up in the price. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said that the reason why most people expect that

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<v Speaker 1>is because they think that if all this money flows

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<v Speaker 1>into these ETFs, everyone's going to rush out and go

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<v Speaker 1>buy them, and it would then send the price to

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<v Speaker 1>the moon. But I said, that's not really how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, ETFs have already bought the bitcoin, now, not

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<v Speaker 1>in the ETF fund themselves, but in these buffer accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the ETF can't be buying and selling bitcoin every

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<v Speaker 1>single day in the market. They can't move the market

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<v Speaker 1>that fast. The market isn't big enough to handle that

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<v Speaker 1>type of volume. And so most of these ETF companies

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<v Speaker 1>have already bought in what's known as like a seed

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<v Speaker 1>account or like a buffer account, and that account will

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<v Speaker 1>actively trade and manage that in the market. The ETF

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<v Speaker 1>will be buying and selling from that buffer account, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm calling it, And so it wouldn't really drive

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<v Speaker 1>the price. And so what I thought is that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people trying to front run the price of

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<v Speaker 1>the ETF would buy it up and then as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as we got approved, they'd sell it off to make that

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<v Speaker 1>quick rip. We might see a draw down. And the

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<v Speaker 1>warning that I gave was don't get tricked out, right,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get faked out by the market. Don't go, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I should sell. That might be what they

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<v Speaker 1>want is to take over your bitcoin because they're certainly

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<v Speaker 1>going to need it. And if you're just tune in,

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to the Mark Moss Show, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the news of the Bitcoin ETF. We'll be back with

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot more in a minute. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to miss it. Don't go away, I'll be back all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. If you just tune in, you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mark Moss Show, we're talking about the big news,

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<v Speaker 1>the coming out party, if you will. Bitcoin has finally

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<v Speaker 1>made it to the mainstream. It's across the chasm, as

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<v Speaker 1>I like to say, cross the chasm. What does crossing

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<v Speaker 1>the chasm mean? Well, crossing the chasm is a term

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<v Speaker 1>that we use to look at technology adoption. You might

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<v Speaker 1>have seen this chart before It's sort of like a

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<v Speaker 1>bell curve, and it shows how new technology such as

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<v Speaker 1>the telephone and the color TV, the washing machine, the internet,

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<v Speaker 1>and bitcoin, things like that. New technologies reach adoption, and

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<v Speaker 1>basically they follow a predictable pattern, which you hear me

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<v Speaker 1>talk about quite a bit, you know, technology cycles. But

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<v Speaker 1>basically you have the beginning part, which is the innovators.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the person who developed the technology, so the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that wrote the code, that came up with the idea, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>And typically that brings to three four small digit adoption,

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<v Speaker 1>right because not that many of them. After that is

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<v Speaker 1>the next section that comes into this new technology, and

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<v Speaker 1>these are called the true believers. So these are the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that catch it early. These are the tinkers, the hobbyists,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that really believe in it. That would be me.

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<v Speaker 1>I would put myself into the true believer camp of bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>and that typically gets us to about fifteen percent adoption,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe as high as up to twenty percent adoption. Then

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<v Speaker 1>what happens You see a big jump up in that

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<v Speaker 1>Bell curve, but before we get what's known as the

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<v Speaker 1>early majority. If you don't own bitcoin yet, you could

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<v Speaker 1>be part of the early majority. Before we get the

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<v Speaker 1>early majority. There's something known as the chasm, and the

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<v Speaker 1>chasm is a gap, and the gap has to be crossed.

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<v Speaker 1>The chasm has to be caught crossed before the early

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<v Speaker 1>majority comes in, and then after the majority is finally

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<v Speaker 1>the late majority comes in. All right, So the chasm

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<v Speaker 1>is something that has to be crossed, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>mindset shift, right, maybe you there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>listening right now that think in it. That bitcoin is stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tulip, it's a magical internet money. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>trust something that I can't hold in my hand. Film

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<v Speaker 1>the blank. I've heard it all, and it's a new technology.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course not everybody believes in it. It's brand new,

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<v Speaker 1>well not anymore, it's fifteen years old. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the time it's new, I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a skeptic, you know, all these things, whatever your

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<v Speaker 1>doubt may be about bitcoin. But the chasm is where

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<v Speaker 1>something changes, so the mindset of everybody will shift. Something

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<v Speaker 1>changes where it gets very easy to use or becomes

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate or something like that. So in the early days

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<v Speaker 1>of the VCR, for example, there weren't really any things

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the VCR. There weren't a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>movies on the VCR, and the first use case of

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<v Speaker 1>the VCR, like most tech like the Internet, was for porn,

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<v Speaker 1>for pornography, and so obviously, yeah, that's especially back when

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<v Speaker 1>the VCR came back, but even today, porn isn't really

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<v Speaker 1>accepted in mainstrea stream. Certainly it wasn't back then, and

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<v Speaker 1>the only use case for the VCR was for porn,

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<v Speaker 1>and so people overlook the VCR. Why would we use it.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need that, There's nothing to do with it

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<v Speaker 1>other than watch porn, et cetera. What brought the VCR

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<v Speaker 1>into mainstream was Disney decided to release a movie on

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<v Speaker 1>the VCR. When Disney released a movie, then other people

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<v Speaker 1>started releasing movies. And once there was Disney and other

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<v Speaker 1>good movies to get, then the mindset shifted and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>went and started buying VCRs. Right, And we can go

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<v Speaker 1>on and on and about this, but this chasm, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe has been crossed. And I believe we've been getting

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<v Speaker 1>sort of getting across the chasm, if you will, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think we finally crossed the chasm. Now we've crossed

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<v Speaker 1>the rubicon, if you will, and that is because this

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<v Speaker 1>ETF has finally legitimized it. If you're a skeptic at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, still thinking it's stupid, it's a tulip, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fad, it's going to go away, et cetera, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know what else to say to you anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the larger asset manager in the world, Blackrock,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm no fan of, by the way. They're run

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<v Speaker 1>by Larry Fink, so arguably one of the most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>men in the entire world. He was on CNBC and

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about this before now it's been a month

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<v Speaker 1>or two ago, and he said that people are moving

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<v Speaker 1>to bitcoin for safety. So arguably one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>powerful men in the entire world runs the largest asset

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<v Speaker 1>manager in the world, is calling bitcoin a flight to safety.

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<v Speaker 1>They've launched a bitcoin ETF, and not just one, but

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<v Speaker 1>eleven ETFs were approved, not just one, but eleven the

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<v Speaker 1>largest asset managers in the world, not just Blackrock. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like Fidelity and a bunch of other big ones.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, we'll talk about those in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. And now it's legitimate. Now every financial advisor

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<v Speaker 1>has the ability to now recommend bitcoin into a financial portfolio.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about this before. I think seventy two percent

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<v Speaker 1>of financial advisors in a poll, seventy two percent of

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<v Speaker 1>them said that they would allocate money towards bitcoin if

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<v Speaker 1>an ETF got approved. So there you have it. Seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two percent. That is, that's at least the early majority

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<v Speaker 1>of that might even be the late majority. Two. The

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<v Speaker 1>chasm has been crossed. Bitcoin is easy. It's the best

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<v Speaker 1>performing asset. It's been around for fifteen years. It's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not a tulip. It keeps coming back over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over. It's now recognized by the largest asset manager

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, it's approved by the government, and now

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can buy it. It's a big deal. I have

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<v Speaker 1>this prop on my desk here. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>show this to you. This is a block clock. It

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<v Speaker 1>tracks the price of bitcoin in real time. It lost

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<v Speaker 1>power in March of twenty twenty two when bitcoin price

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<v Speaker 1>was at forty seven thousand, and I'm waiting to plug

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<v Speaker 1>it back in until it gets over that price, which

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<v Speaker 1>it should any minute or any day. Now. It's popped

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<v Speaker 1>over that today a few times. It hasn't closed over

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<v Speaker 1>that price yet, so we'll see where that's at. And

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<v Speaker 1>here we are on the first day, at the time

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<v Speaker 1>of this recording, the first day of trading in this

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<v Speaker 1>big win TF and I want to tell you what's

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<v Speaker 1>already happening, but before we do, I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>back just a little bit of time. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what happened before the launch, because more signs

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<v Speaker 1>of government and competence. You know. For as as scared

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<v Speaker 1>as I am on many things the government's doing about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, our potential future, one thing that gives me

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of hope is that, man, the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of government incompetence is so high, and it what happened

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<v Speaker 1>is it'll probably give you a little chuckle. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was government of competence, maybe it was intentional. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about that, but it reminds me of a

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<v Speaker 1>story that happened to me about five years ago, right

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<v Speaker 1>around this time. As a matter of fact, it was

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<v Speaker 1>in January of twenty eighteen, and I was with my

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<v Speaker 1>family on the north shore of O Wahoo. I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Hawaii. We rented a house right there on the

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<v Speaker 1>beach for a month. Because I love to surf. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the big waves. And so we're over there and

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<v Speaker 1>we wake up, but it's about eight in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and our phones are all going off like this, these alerts,

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<v Speaker 1>and go to grab my phone and take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, and on my phone is a message, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have it right here. I have the

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<v Speaker 1>actual text message that we got here. I pull it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just read it to you. Yeah, so here we go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so here we go. On my phone emergency alert and

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<v Speaker 1>it says ballistic missile threat inbound to Hawaii. Seek immediate shelter.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a drill. That was it. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I said. My phone's going off, my wife's phone's going off,

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter's phone's going off. We grab the phone and

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<v Speaker 1>we wake up like still got you know, sleep in

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<v Speaker 1>our eyes, et cetera. And all of a sudden, it

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<v Speaker 1>just says ballistic missile threat inbound to Hawaii, Seek immediate shelter.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a drill. Now we're in an airbnb, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we go to Hawaii quite a bit, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know much about the island, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if there's bomb shelters or nuclear bunkers. I certainly

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any iodine if it's a nuclear attack, like

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<v Speaker 1>I member's over there on vacation, right, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we see. Now. I'm telling you this story because

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<v Speaker 1>this is sort of what happened with the SEC. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna explain to you exactly what happened with the SEC.

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<v Speaker 1>But I gotta take a very quick break. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>just tuning in, you're listening to the Mark Moss Show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about I think it's potentially I think the

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<v Speaker 1>future will show this might be the biggest move we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in the financial markets in decades. All Right, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a big deal and you need to know about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about it more when I take when I

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<v Speaker 1>come back from a very short break. Again, you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mark Moss Show. Don't go anywhere, don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to miss it, So I'll be right back. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. If you just tune in, you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mark Moss Show, we're talking about the Bitcoin ETF

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<v Speaker 1>massive news. Do not sleep on this. Let me break

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<v Speaker 1>it down for a little bit. Right before the breakdow

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling you about this story of how it

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<v Speaker 1>was in Hawaii in January twenty eighteen, and I woke

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<v Speaker 1>up to getting this inbound ballistic missile threat. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a drill now. We sat there for As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, this is what got me to join Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>because we could not find any information about this. We

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<v Speaker 1>scoured the internet, scoured the news, turned on the TV.

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<v Speaker 1>There was nothing about it. My business partner at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>he was on Twitter and he was able to pull

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<v Speaker 1>up a bunch of news people talking about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter's amazing forgetting instant news. By the way, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not following me on Twitter, check me out at one

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Moss. It's the number one at one Mark Moss.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit me up. Let me know you're listening to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear from you. But anyway, it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that about I don't know. It was about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes later they issued a release that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no inbound ballistic missile. Somebody just accidentally did that.

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<v Speaker 1>So someone accidentally did that, just like accidentally hit the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong button. But wouldn't somebody have to type in the message.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just somebody hitting the wrong button. They had

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<v Speaker 1>to type in the message. Right. Whatever the story was,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll never know the government never tells the truth. But

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<v Speaker 1>somehow accidentally that message got sent out. It wasn't wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously didn't happen. No bomb happened. We don't know the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>But now let's go back to the SEC. So the

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<v Speaker 1>day before we were supposed to get the approval, the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC Twitter account put out a message saying that it

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<v Speaker 1>from the SEC account that the ETFs were approved. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>going crazy. There's all types of tweets going on. All

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<v Speaker 1>these Twitter spaces started popping up. I got I jumped

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<v Speaker 1>onto some Twitter spaces. We're talking about, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>you got approved. We got approved, got approved. And just

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<v Speaker 1>a little while later, I don't know, it was about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes later, Gary Gensler, the head of the SEC,

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<v Speaker 1>goes on his Twitter and says the SEC account was

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<v Speaker 1>compromised or hacked. It's not really approved. Hmm. Sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like there's not really a ballistic missile inbound Hawaii to

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<v Speaker 1>kill you. Huh. Okay, so it was hacked. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>might know that I've recently just got my Twitter account back.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. My Twitter account got hacked in August August

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth of last year, and I was locked out of

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<v Speaker 1>my Twitter account for five months. I got back in

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<v Speaker 1>January first, a few weeks ago, and it took me

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<v Speaker 1>five months. I'm a ky seed blue check pain. They

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<v Speaker 1>charged my account every month. I filled out over like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty probably plus support tickets, and took me five months

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<v Speaker 1>get my account back. Supposedly the SEC's account got hacked

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<v Speaker 1>and they got it back within minutes. Probably not, but

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<v Speaker 1>also the message looked very official and Genzo's responses very quick.

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<v Speaker 1>So then obviously speculation starts going on. And my best

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<v Speaker 1>guess was that it was probably meant to go out

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<v Speaker 1>the following day, and the intern that was putting it

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<v Speaker 1>into the SEC Twitter account when they scheduled it, they

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<v Speaker 1>probably put the wrong date in there. That's probably my guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what was interesting is the market started going crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, you got this huge spike

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<v Speaker 1>run up and then you got this huge sell off.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they wanted to see what was going on. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the insanity of this is that the SEC goes after

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<v Speaker 1>people like Elon Musk for using Twitter to manipulate markets,

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<v Speaker 1>and here they were intentional or not. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't secure their account, whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 1>They should. They're liable for it. They use Twitter to

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<v Speaker 1>manipulate the market. Somebody or somebody's use that information to

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<v Speaker 1>trade off of just look at the data, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see it. And so the SEC supposedly, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to watch out for us, for the consumer, watch out

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<v Speaker 1>for the little guy, was the one that manipulated the

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<v Speaker 1>markets with this. Now again, whether it was intentional, an

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<v Speaker 1>intern did it or whatever, they didn't secure that properly,

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<v Speaker 1>which brings up a whole other topic about government comms

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<v Speaker 1>being insecure unsecured, right, Like, if somebody has access to

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<v Speaker 1>all the government comms, I mean, think about what they

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<v Speaker 1>could do. I mean somebody at Twitter could potentially, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say this for sure because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't work at Twitter, but potentially Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk or somebody else working at Twitter could put out

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<v Speaker 1>tweets on behalf of a government account. I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>could say from the DoD Department of Defense, like we've

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<v Speaker 1>just launched nuclear weapons to China, for example, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>imagine what China would do. Imagine if China saw that message,

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<v Speaker 1>like I woke up to saying that there was inbound

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear weapons and it was from the DoD for example, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what would they potentially do. So think about how much

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<v Speaker 1>of a danger that is somebody inside Twitter having access

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<v Speaker 1>to all the government comms. What we've seen happen many times,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, through whatever you want to call the vigilantes

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<v Speaker 1>or whistleblowers, is people doing things like this, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big problem. Now we do have a solution

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<v Speaker 1>for this, and this is of course decentralized technologies, which

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about all the time. And so one kind

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<v Speaker 1>of strong up and coming replacement for Twitter is what's

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<v Speaker 1>called Noster in ostr, which is a new type of

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<v Speaker 1>technology that basically it gives you like a Twitter like client,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's completely decentralized and only I can control my

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<v Speaker 1>Noster account through a use of a private key, a

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<v Speaker 1>cryptographic key, sort of like how bitcoin works. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's only a matter of time before we see things

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<v Speaker 1>everything switch over that we have to. I mean to

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<v Speaker 1>think of a government comm as being run on a

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<v Speaker 1>platform that could be compromised like this, It's it's pretty insane,

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<v Speaker 1>and think about it. Okay, so now here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get past that. That was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>mess up again. I have to laugh at the incompetence

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>of the government. But here we have it got approved

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<v Speaker 1>and so what happened, well, they fumbled the launch, but

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<v Speaker 1>then it opened up. And so far on the first

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<v Speaker 1>day that the etf'spent open, we've seen four point six

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars of trading happen on it. That's pretty massive.

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Now to put that into some perspective, four point six

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<v Speaker 1>billion that's in trading, that's how much has moved daily.

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, you're we're talking on an asset that

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<v Speaker 1>already does forty fifty billion a day. So potentially, you know,

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:10.199
<v Speaker 1>it's less than ten percent of the total amount of

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<v Speaker 1>daily transaction jumped into the SEC. So it's not overwhelming,

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.479
<v Speaker 1>but if we put it into perspective, maybe it is.

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>So we saw, you know, bitcoins a lot of things

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people compared to like a digital gold

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 1>like a store of value. But if we look at gold,

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<v Speaker 1>we have gold ETFs. A lot of you might own

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.159
<v Speaker 1>a gold through in ETF. And if we look at

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 1>gold ETFs, what we can see is the very first

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<v Speaker 1>one was a spider SBDR is a symbol spider gold

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>trusted with the symbol is GLD. It's the most well

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>known etf. It's been seeing significant growth and it launched

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and three. Right, It launched March twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighth of two thousand and three with an initial assets

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<v Speaker 1>under management of around one hundred and fifteen million. So

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 1>when the gold one was launched, it got one hundred

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and fifteen million. Now that's assets under management. We don't

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.679
<v Speaker 1>know exactly where the assets under management went up in

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 1>these bitcoin ETFs yet. We'll have to let the dust

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>set a little bit. But we see four point six

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:14.199
<v Speaker 1>billion in trading, so we'll probably end up at a

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>billion versus one hundred and fifteen million in gold. Sorry,

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>gold guys. Now by two thousand and four, By the

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<v Speaker 1>end of two thousand and four, which was almost two

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>years later, they had grown to about one point five billion.

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>So it took gold almost two years to get to

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<v Speaker 1>one point five billion in assets. And I bet you

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the bitcoin is going to be there in a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry gold guys, Sorry to the paiders or whatever. I

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know. We'll see what happens. Uh. Then we saw

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>other We saw other ETFs pop up. I think there

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>was five gold ETFs that popped up in the first

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<v Speaker 1>five years. We saw ice shares Comas Gold Trust IAU

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<v Speaker 1>launched in January twenty first, two thousand and five. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw ETF's Physical Gold that's the gold launched on November eighteen,

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five. We saw another one launched September

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine. Sprot Physical Gold Trust launched February

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty ten. Aberdeen launched October fifteenth, twenty ten. So from

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three to twenty ten, we got five

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<v Speaker 1>that opened up. Five. Now to put that into perspective,

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>we just got eleven bitcoin ETFs approved. So it took five.

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>It took seven years to get five gold ETFs, and

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>now we got eleven bitcoin ETFs in the same day.

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Pretty amazing. And again if you look at the price.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>which of these bitcoin ETFs opened up, the good the

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.240
<v Speaker 1>bad about them, and we'll protect some of the pricing

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:05.239
<v Speaker 1>and what you should do to pay attention to this.

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>If you're just tune in, you listening to the Mark

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>Mass Show talking about of course the bitcoin ETFs the

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>biggest news in the financial space for sure. Got a

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>whole lot more to cover when I come back, but

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I got to take a very short break, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to miss it. Don't go away. I'll be

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>right back. All right, welcome back. If you're just tune in,

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you're listening to the Mark Mass Show. We're talking about

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the bitcoin ETF that just got approved. Big, big, big news,

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the biggest news, the biggest news in the financial space.

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's anything bigger at least right now,

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm sure you're already hearing about it, but

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 1>I want to bring it to you from another angle.

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>We were just looking at the bitcoin ETFs compared to

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the gold ets As we've explained, they're way bigger. They're

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>blowing away records, which is pretty amazing. Will that push

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 1>the price up of bitcoin like it did gold similarly

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to gold, we'll see. What we do know is that

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>when the gold ETF launched, the price of gold was

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>about three hundred and twenty seven dollars announced three twenty seven,

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 1>and by the time the fifth one launched it was

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 1>up to thirteen hundred. So from three hundred to thirteen hundred,

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>as I said, that was five gold ETFs, we saw

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>eleven bitcoin ETFs launch at the same time. Now, bitcoin

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>is the single greatest asset of all time. It's been

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>growing really really fast, and now we have eleven ETFs.

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>And what we saw, which was pretty interesting, is all

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of these ETFs that were getting approved were starting to

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>fight over they're fighting for you, right, They're fighting for

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you as a customer, and they started fighting by changing

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>their price structure how much they'll charge you to use

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>their ETFs. And they started moving the price down lower, lower, lower, lower, lower,

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>including you know, even free for a while, right, eventually

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>they'll charge you, but even for free. And it made

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>me I think that one obviously, you know, capitalism is

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that when competition is there, you and I as a

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>consumer get better products, better service, better prices. So that's good.

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>But what I really made me think was that if

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>all of these ETFs are willing to drop their fees

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>that low, they must be expecting a massive amount of inflow,

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>right because they need to have money. They need money

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>to cover their cost. They're not doing this for free.

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>It's very expensive because of the bureaucracy and the red

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>tape involved in the financial industry. It's very expensive to

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>launch an ETF. As a matter of fact, I looked

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>into launching my own ETF. There's another YouTuber, meet Kevin,

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>He launched an ETF, and the company that launched the

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>etforum contacted me about launching one as well. So I

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>looked into it, and it's very expensive, you know, you're

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>looking at on the low end, probably half a million dollars,

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>if not millions, And to get the ETF if you're

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of these big companies, millions for sure,

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>And so you're not going to launch that if you

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think you can make money. And they were lowering

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the price, lowering the price, lowering the price, lowering the

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>price so much for competition, and they can raise the

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>price later potentially, I guess. But what it shows me

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and most people kind of commentating on this that understand,

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>is that they're probably expecting a massive amount of asset

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>under management, so that even the low amount of fees

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:21.239
<v Speaker 1>at the percentage basis is still enough to cover that. Now,

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>another thing that's interesting if we compare this to a

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>gold ETF, is that this is the first ETF in

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>history ever in which the underlying asset, in this case, bitcoin,

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>has a fixed supply. So what do I mean by that?

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>So in a uranium ETF or an oil ETF and

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:43.959
<v Speaker 1>certainly in a gold ETF when more people buy gold

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and the price of gold goes up, what happens. So

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>when they jumped into the gold ETFs and it pushed

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the price from three hundred and thirteen hundred, what happened, Well,

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>more gold companies and gold miners went to go get

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>more gold. When it's three hundred bucks, you have a

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>few people mining to bring gold to the market goes

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>to thirteen hundred, they're rushing to go get more gold,

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>or more uranium, or more energy to the market of

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the price goes up. But bitcoin is the first asset

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>in history that can't do that. Bigcoin is a fixed apply.

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>So what happens with that, we don't really know. We

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have history to tell us. But let's just say

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>number go up. We call that gu ngu technology is

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>sort of a tongue in cheek way to say that.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>But the price would go up. We've never seen this

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>before and it could be very volatile, So I would

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>expect massive amounts of volatility because of this. Now, some

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>of the volatility has been because people are leaving some

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>of the more expensive ways to own bitcoin in the

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>past through funds like this, such as the gray scale

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin trust, and so that's also part of the volatility

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and sart of the liquidity that we're starting to see

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>withdrawing from those funds moving into the other ones. Some

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>other things that we're seeing right now today, which is

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting. I think this is going to but if

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<v Speaker 1>you're online at all, you can see, for example, Vanguard,

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>which is one of the top three asset managers in

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the world, Blackrock, Vanguard, and State Street being those three,

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Vanguard is refusing to let customers buy bitcoin through the

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>ETFs with their own money, which is pretty interesting. I

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>would just say that if your bank, which happens to

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>me quite a bit, or your fund, whatever they are,

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>if they refuse to let you do something with your

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.479
<v Speaker 1>own money, I would just ask the question, is it

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>your own money? Now, many times I've had wires block

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>up onto my bank. I need to send a wire,

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>they block it, They make me fill out forms, they

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>ask me questions. I've had to sit down with bank managers.

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you name it, and it makes me so

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>angry because it's like, look, man, it's my money. What

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>do you like? Who are you to even ask me

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>if I want to send my money? It's my money?

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's not right. So you understand that in the

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>banking system, that money is no longer your money. That

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>money is now an ioe you to you right now,

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you're an unsecured creditor of the bank. So it's actually

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>their money. They decide what they can do with it,

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and in this case, Vanguard is doing that, and I'm

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>starting to see reports of other institutions also blocking access

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>to funds. I did see people buying it with JP Morgan,

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Fidelities doing it as well. Fidelity also has their own

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>ETF as well. But I think that some of this

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>is going to just change. I mean, look, it's been

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>at the time I'm recording this, just one day, right, like,

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 1>give it some time. The one thing that I see

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>over and over and over and over and over that

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>just wreck most people, specifically when it comes to investing,

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>but in life in general, is just a short time span, right,

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>preference and so expecting way too much too soon, and

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like, look, man, give it a day. It give

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it a couple days, give it a week. I'm sure

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Vanguard is going to come around. Maybe it takes time

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>to get that set up. Maybe they don't, you know,

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>they got caught off sides, or maybe they're skeptical, maybe

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>they don't want you to do it yet and they

0:33:57.840 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>want to kind of see how it plays out. Whatever

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the case is, I wouldn't be as I've seen people

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about online. I wouldn't be rushing to close my

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>accounts and move money over. I don't know if it

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>requires that, but a lot of people are doing that.

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>If I was going to do that, though, I would

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>be choosing Fidelity, and I'd probably be choosing Fidelity for

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 1>a number of reasons, which I want to break down

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 1>for you, one of which is because Fidelity is sort

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>of a true og bitcoin company. What do I mean

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>by that, Well, I mean that they have been in

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>the bitcoin space for a long time. I think they

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:36.280
<v Speaker 1>started mining bitcoin back in like twenty fourteen or something

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>like that. So Fidelity has been in the forefront of bitcoin.

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>They're a true bitcoin company, and if I was going

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to support one, I certainly wouldn't be supporting black Rock.

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I would probably be choosing to support Fidelity. They put

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>out a report in October of twenty twenty three I

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about before, and they were talking about why investors

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>need to consider bitcoin separately from other digital assets. Meaning bitcoin,

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>not crypto as we talk about all the time. And

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 1>they put out this report which I thought was very

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>very good. Ten different points or lots of points in

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 1>the report. I want to hit on a couple of them,

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>but one they talked about how bitcoin is this brand

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>new technology and how never in human history have we

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>seen or have we been able to solve the problem

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>of digital scarcity and have this like peer to peer

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<v Speaker 1>way to transfer. Now, you might say, but but why

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<v Speaker 1>would they say we don't have that with other cryptocurrencies? Well, ethereum,

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<v Speaker 1>the number two cryptocurrency. They've changed their monetary policy like

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<v Speaker 1>three times in the last couple of years, so they

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<v Speaker 1>make it more scarce. They may make it less scarce,

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<v Speaker 1>but the very fact that they can change it means

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<v Speaker 1>it's not right. So bitcoin hasn't done that. Bitcoin's fidelity

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<v Speaker 1>said that bitcoin should be considered first and separate from

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<v Speaker 1>all other digital assets, so sort of making that case,

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<v Speaker 1>they said that owning bitcoin is like owning the base

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<v Speaker 1>layer of the Internet. Imagine being able to do that. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we talk about bitcoin as like a protocol. A

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<v Speaker 1>protocol is a basic set of instructions that determines how

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<v Speaker 1>packets of information go across. So on the Internet we

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<v Speaker 1>have like the IP TCPIP and bitcoin we have the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing as a protocol, and you can own the

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<v Speaker 1>base layer. So there's a lot of things that Fidality's

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<v Speaker 1>got right. They're a bitcoin company, and if I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to use an ETF that's what I'd be using.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be covering this a whole lot more. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna want to miss out on this, but I

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<v Speaker 1>expect this to move the bitcoin price. What we say

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<v Speaker 1>up and to the right, that's up. N gu number

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