1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: and everybody. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that. 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 3: Right, Hey, y'all, what's up. 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: It's Laura l Rosa and this is the latest with 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Laura l. Rosa. 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 4: This is your DELI dig. 8 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: On all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: the conversations that shake the room. Now it is time 10 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: for one of those conversations. Because I was well, I 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: had the privilege of joining Two Chains in conversation live 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: in conversation during this year's Culture Con that took place 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: here in New York City. And Culture Con is all 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: about the creatives, but I think it's a great place 15 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: for you to understand and learn about business and storytelling 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: and you know how to bridge the gap between the 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: two to make a successful career from the successful person themselves. 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: So that's what I talked to two Chains about. He 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: also has a new book, and he also has a 20 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: new book, The Voice in My Head is God, that 21 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: drops early March, and he has a film out. It's 22 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: called Red Clay. It's not out yet yet. It's actually 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: being seen at film festivals all over right now, but 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: it's very personal. He's opening up about his mother's addiction. 25 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: For the first time, he's opening up about, you know, 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: the internal conversations he has with himself, and we get 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: into why right now and all the things. Take a 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: listen to to chains An I at culture con. 29 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: How are you you wanna do it? 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 5: Y'all doing? 31 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: How you doing it? We are doing amazing? 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: Man. 33 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: I am really excited for this conversation. I want to 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: sorrow because you're talking about a lot of activities. 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: If you want out here, well, we got a new 36 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 3: one to add. Author. You have your book coming. The 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: voice is in my I'm sorry. The voice in my 38 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: head is God. That is an up a title. 39 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: Can you talk me a little bit about the title 40 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: of choosing the title, the naming of the book. 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Well, when I chose the title of my book, I 42 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: was working on a book and I was doing my mask. 43 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: Not to be compared to either out the artists. 44 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: A lot of hardists like to do autobiographies that are 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: sometimes trauma for has deal with who who struggled the most? 46 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: And you know we've all all started to tell we 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: all couple, you know, different trin challenges and backgrounds. But 48 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 2: when I was working on this book, I had stories 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: and I had some ideas, and I've always had a 50 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: voice in my head. 51 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: My Mama used to tell me that asked me who 52 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: the hell I'm talking to. 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: And when I was doing research for the book, I 54 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: was looking at some of the male in my partlish 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: to write before prison. And then every Invalope people would 56 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: say God is love, God is love, God is love. 57 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: I'd rather be even just ignored it for a long time. 58 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: And then one day I took the ears out and 59 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 2: I'm put an equal sign, and I said, God equals love, 60 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: because if. 61 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 3: It ain't no love, it ain't no God. So when 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: I started order an idea from a book. 63 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: Behind that and start, you know, really thinking that the 64 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: reason I'm right here now, I'm move on my tripper 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: and with the success that I think like I have 66 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: is because I quiet down the outside laws and now 67 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: listen to the voice of my head. 68 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: And I fel like, if God is. 69 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: Supposed to be in you, that might be, that might 70 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: be where the voice is. 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: That's how I came up with the book. 72 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, shout out to you, because I 73 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: think when you have masked so much success like you had, 74 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: there are a lot of times where you know people 75 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: don't give it on the gut. And I think to 76 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: see and hear you do that, it speaks volunce for 77 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: you know where you're on your venture. 78 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: Can you talk to me a. 79 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: Bit about what happens when the voice in your head? 80 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: Is it God? Can you hear other voices the noise? 81 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: What's that? 82 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 83 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: So I have a chap boot comber bucket voice. I 84 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: think we already have a bucket voice. We notice something 85 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: right and you just do it, but we'll say fuck it. 86 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: But I guess the way I could tell you that 87 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: it's not God? I know you did you know what 88 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's kind of how I shine hope again. 89 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: It's that I have for my book. It's not a 90 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: religious facebook. 91 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: It's not like I have chapters from the Bible or 92 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: angu thinks like that. I think it just deals with 93 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: the CERTFC and w wisdom that you get. 94 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: I feel like being with charlottle Bit later their females, So. 95 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: I honestually think, like my mom a pap of femails 96 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: in my panel, they already had the super powl. This 97 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: is this thing about being had too hichi and having 98 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: that tradition for me and for a lot of men. 99 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: I think we give that linker, So what I recognize that? 100 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I just listen to this voice doing everything. 101 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: I look the way I go home listening to this voice, 102 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: went on, put on, listening to this voice, just everything 103 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 2: that you can see. 104 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: By this voice in my head. 105 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: Well, you have so right down, you had you know 106 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: your book coming, and then you had your Red clayth 107 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: in them, which is also very vulnerable. Red Chris Bill's 108 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: love why right now gets so personal, like you know, 109 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: divulge so much, like what was the conversation that you're 110 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 4: having with that voice that need teaching? 111 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: You's want to went up about. 112 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: So many things in store. 113 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: Well, a lot of the things I think that I 114 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: went through when I was when I was younger, I'm 115 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: embarrassed to talk about. 116 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed to h to revisit. And I look at 117 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: a lot of the art that I'm putting out. 118 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: Now and there's a calm appeal, you know with Red 119 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: Clay or Suret Fann Pills. 120 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: But the relationship I have my mom bowing up. 121 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: Then I that when I it's in a festival runner 122 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: right now, So that's why people can't see it. But 123 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: when I did the festival in Atlanta, and I had 124 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: like immediate real stage and Q and as when I 125 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: did my Q and A, I have I noticed that 126 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: I have my head now because I had friends in 127 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: the crowd, and I had relatives in the proud. 128 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: And I was truly, truly, truly advassed. 129 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 2: And then when I did another, say one in Denver, 130 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: another festival, I was able to keep my head on, 131 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: my chin off because of them. 132 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: That didn't know me, and I didn't care what their 133 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: opinion was. 134 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: So a lot of stuff that you're sitting in me 135 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: with as my short feel or my book, he just 136 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: feeling some layers back and just trying to yield. 137 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: You know, on my owner. I understand that that you know, 138 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: we all that was good work. You. 139 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: You've always been a person that people point to us 140 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 4: say they go, you are me? 141 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: Are you play for that? 142 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: Yes? 143 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 4: You God for that? 144 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: For short? 145 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: Right? Sure? 146 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: You always in the first time you put poets who 147 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: you say, you know what you see, it what you get. 148 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: You're very honest, You're very authentic. You're very choosy yourself. 149 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: But you said you had your heads down doing that screening, 150 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: and I can you know imagine that Boldia thinks your 151 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: first time is tough, especially where you are in your 152 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: right but personally behind the current. 153 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: What was it like having a conversation. 154 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 4: With your bomb after she saw the film and just 155 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 4: even in writing your book, people you talk about in 156 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: the book and experiences having those conversationss what was that 157 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: like for you? 158 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: It wasn't Trauma's house reach out sensing it was very hard. 159 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: My mom came to the set the whole week of 160 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: shots short failed, but she never came inside, so she 161 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: knew I was shooting a little bit, but she didn't 162 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: or you know what it was. 163 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 6: She just is a support. 164 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: She's gonna sppro. But I'm a whole child, you know, 165 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: just with a TV boy name, can't they couldn't be 166 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, be. 167 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: In a bun of my mom chip. So he's to 168 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: be like it's just a TV day. That's how TD boy. 169 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: They come to me right with a TV su no crazy, 170 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: no strip blow and read it like you know, you 171 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: just keep visit. So she was there but to support. 172 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: But then I got a copy of the short Field 173 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: and she came over to my house and you know, 174 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: you just ring get follow to the TV and for 175 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: probably about I would say about five or six weeks. 176 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: I never mentioned that I had the copy back because 177 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 2: I didn't know how she should react to it. 178 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: And a Nutshelle in the nutshell botes the gethery. That's 179 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: shiit nunt shale. I'm all right in a nutshell. 180 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: The end of that ship I had. 181 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 6: I don't know if I had to, and I don't 182 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 6: want to be judged or whatever, but it was a 183 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 6: situation where I had to. 184 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: Be the one to sell my old mom drugs. And 185 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: that's what this rare play things. 186 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: If iver you know what I'm saying, And it's something 187 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: that I don't rap about talking about it. 188 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: I don't talk about it. I'm trying to be harder 189 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: than the next person. I don't talk about me. There's 190 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: nothing like that. So when I ate this, feel put 191 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: this film together, our heads out of this all film 192 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: power for me having to do this with so much 193 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: that I love so much to put them a you know. 194 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: What I mean. 195 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: It was just a struggle on I shoulder tour. She's 196 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: not there anymore, you know what I'm saying. This is 197 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: his old story, so but she at to see that 198 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: I'm a gonna seventy five, but she able to see 199 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: that right now. It's like I describe what's being on 200 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: the other. 201 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: Side of the fountain. 202 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: It's like this tall mountain. We have me flying this 203 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 3: a line, but now on be a mom We like 204 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: on go this side or wait down on every day, 205 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 3: you know. So the field, much like the book, is 206 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: very very personal. 207 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: It's sounding like you know, I know I have assistant human. 208 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: I smiled a lot, but a lot of that was 209 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: defense making. 210 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: Is is that got me through high school? 211 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: She's like, I would smile the thing that was like 212 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: my biggest smile that I behind you, But most of 213 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 2: it is something any of that that's how Manova through 214 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: like high school. 215 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: And it's somewhat easing. Cous just ready, can y'all get 216 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: it sent right? And it's like, okay, getting loud. You know, 217 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: I'm happy your room. 218 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: It's a journey. 219 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: I'm up here, but I. 220 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: Think it's get out there. But I mean, I think 221 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: the point that you're arrived at that and you tell 222 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: me if you know I'm wrong, But I buy my 223 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: whole spiritual journey. 224 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: I got to fuck where I was okay con telling 225 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: the stuff I was going through, so I felt like, 226 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: but God got to do this, so can be and 227 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: I'm so now I'm here to talk about it if 228 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: I can't. 229 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: Kind of almost like it's your testiment. So that's what 230 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 3: we're saying. 231 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 4: You're kind of like a testimony to beat you there 232 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: like at this perfect So. 233 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you're pretty happy that you're here. 234 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 4: You're too meaning here. 235 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: Then you gents your college, so you mention your college. 236 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: So I know you went to Altous State at one 237 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 4: point you graduate from Virginia State. 238 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I graduated. I have a psyche college and degree. 239 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people got to things. 240 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: And then when you talk to you, so I have 241 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: vot I think I have a brother of brother of 242 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: Bie Range. 243 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: I have everything from big. 244 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: Locked up at fifteen juvenile for a position of falk 245 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: here and a college degree and then all the stuff 246 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 2: in between that, and so I do feel like a 247 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 2: qualified to talk about so everything. You know what I'm 248 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: saying that I'm the spirits of here? 249 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: What was your college experience like? Because okay, so you 250 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: have this like have you learning your book? And in 251 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: directly you feel me? You guys, does that you are cool? 252 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 4: Cooking skin so free word of the book but right 253 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: behind this, by the way. So you make it through 254 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 4: all of these you know, very tough opus that you 255 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 4: just talk about, and then you get to college. Were 256 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: you girt generation your college to me? No? 257 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: No, month on month went to school. I found out 258 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: my dad went to college. Edis funeral. I didn't even 259 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: leistereri on that lock there here, you know, a niggatave. 260 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: Till but that I just see. 261 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: It was still like the arn Mans, the phrase or stuffing, 262 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: but do for my all of mine? So my uncles 263 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 3: went to school. So yeah, but I think I went 264 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: to school. Uh like, if this makes sense on my own, 265 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: No one forced me. No one in fall for law 266 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: park By I was the high school. No one was 267 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: waking the yelo go to school. I just I like 268 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: going to school. I like dressing. First of all. I 269 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 3: like putting up clothes. I like the fela. Normal people 270 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: think you know what I'm saying. I never made a 271 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: sea fall all. I went to college. 272 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: Over my face, it's supped to be going and asking 273 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: many I was so abode was able to go. 274 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 3: To earn the scholarship, and then then I can you 275 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 3: get to college? You learned at all? You got to 276 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 3: do is really go to class and do work. 277 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: And I was able to graduate and little involved in 278 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: my life. But yeah, that was just another chapter. It's 279 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: like another champion, like two chips. 280 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 4: What you see a big time because I mean, I'm 281 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: not so HBC. 282 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: You and I talk a lot about the experience of 283 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 3: being born on campus and how you get so much 284 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: just from that. Don't even think of the classes. 285 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: If I start great to just be a campus or 286 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 4: it's your life. How did it go to an HPC, 287 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: you like, how did that experience mold you into PC today? 288 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: Right here? 289 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I'm in my wife in college, 290 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: I better so you see how that get that turns 291 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: out of the a story. 292 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 3: But I live a lot of my friends there. I 293 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 3: was already to get a social butterify. I'd like to 294 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 3: be around and give up like be around what's going on? 295 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: And so I think you go into an HPC, you 296 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: allowed me to be more with the indoors in what 297 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: culture is from different places. 298 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: Because when you go to college, people from every grade, 299 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: not just from Lobo. 300 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: So I was just like a local local Jogo when 301 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: I was in college, far cool trained or whatever that was. 302 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: But when I got on a road which outcome. 303 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: I met people from shoot fib or Detroit, New York, 304 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: you know, La tour or whatever, and I would learn. 305 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: I remember when my friend. 306 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,479 Speaker 3: From Wolves he will beyond the hot or as a mister. 307 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 6: Stuff like that. 308 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 309 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 5: Just by you. 310 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: When a bunch of people go from different areas come 311 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 3: together like Dumbo, it just makes a lot of a 312 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: unique experience. You mentioned any video like college love that score. 313 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: We also watched your propos at the that kind of 314 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: and you know all the great things. What was your 315 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 4: conversation might do that voice in your head at the 316 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 4: five and you say, I'm want to propose. Other of 317 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: you guys have been together for some years, but what 318 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: was that conversation? Like that. 319 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 7: Crazy other be placed thirty five thoughts on the plate, right, 320 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 7: So I get invited. 321 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: By up telling by Posac. 322 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: He does I'm doing the collaboration with real Pasacha man 323 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: and my whole bust of lady. 324 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: You gotta these shoes called shame reactions with Pisaka. So 325 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: they invited be you know each as as of the 326 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: bag gap, let's start there and. 327 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 6: So soon as beginning ex telling us to go to 328 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 6: fifth five and we get spending on them up to 329 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 6: one hundred hours at the Pasaca. 330 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: So we upstairs and eat track and vine and we 331 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: walk around and Personca Bross. 332 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 5: Just. 333 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: Get some money or you're like this, I'll get it anyway. 334 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: It's who are Craik can can be getting, you know 335 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I'm like you, I'm like, I'm just. 336 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: Trying to think if somebody could do it, they could 337 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: be its store and last or after me. 338 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: Right, so I go too much of yours. Let's say, man, 339 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: you know, I think I'm gonna think I'm gonna do be. 340 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 341 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 6: I think I'm to do it. 342 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: And so I get to bring here. I got her 343 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: all set up, you know what I'm saying. 344 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: And so fast forward to got the pantallons the rove 345 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: and they said, a lady pro paris to do Keisha 346 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: bakerp You're gonna cluse somebody. 347 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, You getting you maked up? 348 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: Cheers supers, and uh we get to the med Gallan. 349 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: Now I get the count of a little nervous, but 350 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, we're here now, and I remember whether they 351 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: held the met gallifi that if one versus the front you. 352 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: Then they held up pant gallic lyle and then I'm 353 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: gonna say real, so real king, and she said all 354 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: the spot. 355 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: So I said, maybe this is God tend to me 356 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: is just do this another time? Right? 357 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 6: This is not a right tam, so we can get 358 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 6: out of there. He polls and and stuff. So keisha 359 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 6: a little love lady, and the rain won't come out 360 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 6: I'm talking about. I'm like, he's sent a little loss 361 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 6: and bunt then sign from crazy. 362 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: So I'm like, say, fucking by you. How you're grady? 363 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: It's I know it's opening them so a rangy, just 364 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: like you opened the bottom make it like this is 365 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: this a X? 366 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: And so. 367 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: Some I'm supposed to be trying go in here telling 368 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: me something out And many years fitty then years I 369 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: was seeing the wrong paces. It's a long time and 370 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: I got shot in my heavy right and so when 371 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: I when. 372 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: She turned around, number wasn't me. She said, I'll go. 373 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: To baby caps and then I show up and then 374 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: that's not having much all together. 375 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: The bullet in my head. 376 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 6: So that's what I was supposed to do. 377 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but nothing got. 378 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: Y'all gotta talk a little bit about you know, but 379 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: you played sports, you play all in comage, they're a 380 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 4: discipline about too that there hat piece of conversations the 381 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: guy as busy, I get intuition to just now with 382 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: the lock in and locked tail. 383 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: And I think that's why your career has been so successful. 384 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 4: Your fastens and the thing that you're doing when you're 385 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: in decieting. You know what discipline looks like pre you 386 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: a different failure of the body. 387 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: So like dad. 388 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 4: Discipline, we're the state discipline. Nobody if you have a 389 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 4: book discipline, you're balancing it all. What is it that 390 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 4: regiment like get the conversation like we got a lot 391 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 4: of bank I could. 392 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 6: Be going to notes. 393 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: With discipline even you have could cut your head for me. 394 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: I think what the outcome? This could be a good 395 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: or bad. So obviously well disciplined enough to goes that 396 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: you know that it's a fine. I would like to 397 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: just to be past it. Kind some of them talk 398 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: about it all that a little different. That's how I 399 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: think that's I think it all from my. 400 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: Murder of the right kits, even like I found out 401 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 4: wed because I'm a shrubbery has. 402 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: Some ristal switch. 403 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: One do that sure, it was great. It's so he said, 404 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 4: you don't you change you to hand their kady r. 405 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: I think because the head why my franchise CHRISTI what 406 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 4: doesn't she's changed? And like I just said, so even. 407 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 3: At maybe right, but I know you have the right. Guys, 408 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 3: make sure you if you are cold on my uses 409 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: can or pre word at the book. But in my 410 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: final question is that your too nords urny although that's 411 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 3: been shire cold is working. But it's a good reading. 412 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: That place is get so. 413 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: This is good read your voice and my is God. 414 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: So this look when you said, y'all the name of 415 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 3: the book is the first was the voice that your 416 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: head with the then cultish your. 417 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 4: Baby change it? 418 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, He said that a lot of the fires would 419 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: think he was a religious based boots if. 420 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 5: I gets hours that because I I can broke God. 421 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 5: So but I didn't already change perm God. So I 422 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 5: changed it to the voice in my hands. So I 423 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 5: was just speaking for me. You might have a wicked voice. 424 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: And you that I could for me. It's supposed to 425 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: Sid told me you you they look like this. People 426 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: like this, he said, if you don't want working them, 427 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: want to try? 428 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: Yes, trying out now ask you that and talk girl, 429 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 4: the boys and you know, how about you here where 430 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 4: you are right now? What would you tell any of 431 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: these young creators. People in the audience were struggling with 432 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 4: really's happening? 433 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: As the boys in their head. There isn't I think 434 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: you are the first. 435 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: This is what it is? 436 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: Okay, this this is another thing we got three k 437 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: as anybody in here said. 438 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: Something told me, Something told me where it is, Something 439 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: told me don't go Gert, something told you didn't If 440 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: you think about what something told you bo was just 441 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: doe find out what it is because we all. 442 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: Have you got itself told we don't even so so 443 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: we don't. So so if girl, I ain't going, I 444 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: wasn't even coming here or not some told me to 445 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: do it? Whatever it is something they is tapt this 446 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: to day. So just what this book wind out. But 447 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: if something is find out what everybody too. But something 448 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: told me to come up this it's something to me 449 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: that he come up. Somebody, boys are gonna come here today, 450 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: and then something told you to come here today and 451 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: then you bring it to be. 452 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: That's what that is. 453 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, then you that's what it is. 454 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 3: I wasn't Eve gonna come up in there and bread 455 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: the two show you go, you gonna be something told 456 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: me to come on he put it, give you my 457 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: way on. Now you're gonna flourish. Just just be so 458 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: plumbing it and be great and everything, y'all. 459 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: At the end of each episode, I tell you, guys, 460 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: I am always appreciative for you guys tuning and my 461 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: lowriders who've been rocking out with me, born or not. 462 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys. 463 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: Because y'all could be anywhere with anybody talking about this stuff, 464 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: hearing all the recaps, but y'all choose to be year 465 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: will me every single episode, and for that, I am 466 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: so thankful. Every single episode. I'm so thankful, So thank 467 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: you guys. 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