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Speaker 1: against the Chronicles podcast. And I'm with my homeboy today
Speaker 1: and you know, um, the homey Big James is out
Speaker 1: there handling some business right now. Um, and he'd be
Speaker 1: back on the next show. Of course, y'all keep my
Speaker 1: poy keep my boy up in prayers. Ain't nothing wrong now,
Speaker 1: so I want you all up this third. People always
Speaker 1: expect should be wrong still, but we gotta let them know,
Speaker 1: you know, like I tell people, like I tell people,
Speaker 1: we are ordinary. Motherfucker's right, even though people see us
Speaker 1: we podcasting and then they are on records and all
Speaker 1: this ship. We got normal responsibilities. You know, my nigga
Speaker 1: James raising his grandson right now. You don't trying to
Speaker 1: show him that right path. So when when when niggas
Speaker 1: have personal ship, you know, it's just personal. He got
Speaker 1: to go take care of some ship. You never know
Speaker 1: what it is. But so don't expect that it's always
Speaker 1: something negative when the nigga might be missing in action
Speaker 1: for the day you get me day. Uh, we can
Speaker 1: handle this, you can feel me. Hell yeah, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what we got. One of my probably favorite
Speaker 1: easily one of my top five of all time. My
Speaker 1: nigga to Peter Man. I'm gonna calling the Peter Man
Speaker 1: because that's Big Mike and the bad biggas don't don't
Speaker 1: pick Mike. Niggas don't know my nigga. Three to rest
Speaker 1: in Peach. You think is a sleep like a motherfucking
Speaker 1: convicts was official like a referee with a whistle. Get me, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a story, big Mike. When I
Speaker 1: first heard you, Man, what kind of receiver is you
Speaker 1: talking on? Man? The head stick receiver like here, the
Speaker 1: fuzz fun like the crap off pitch and this ship
Speaker 1: with that receiver and ship with that plug out. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell at, Mike, keep talking on that fucking
Speaker 1: like he really is somebody's office conversate with. I was dripping.
Speaker 1: I'm looking like I said, I had to look again.
Speaker 1: I said, this nigg is on the first sing with
Speaker 1: my nigga grundmmad that cord on there, nigga that went
Speaker 1: from the catching the outside and around to the backyard.
Speaker 1: Hold that motherfucker on the shoulders like this the same
Speaker 1: made sure you've got that thousand foot gord when you
Speaker 1: got that, so you got down all around the house
Speaker 1: with that but like that outside. But man, the first
Speaker 1: time I got hit to you, dog my boyfriend Tyler Texas. Man,
Speaker 1: we're playing football in the mess of state and we
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of us niggas on the team.
Speaker 1: Louisiana niggas. So they came with a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: different music. We had the West Coach it they had
Speaker 1: to down some ship. So he had that album the Convicts, man,
Speaker 1: and y'all had a song on that motherfucker the Legal Aliens.
Speaker 1: I said, current, Damn boy, this is a ruthless as
Speaker 1: niggas down motherfucking Texas board. So so we we were
Speaker 1: gonna go back a little bit, big Mike MANAU don't know,
Speaker 1: like whenever I say, you don't do a whole lot
Speaker 1: of interviews, man, So thank you for coming on, bro exact,
Speaker 1: thank you all for having me. For sure, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go back now. Man. So the Conflicts was your first group.
Speaker 1: That was the first time you was out on wax, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how did that come about? Because you're originally from Louisiana,
Speaker 1: New Orleans, right exactly? Yeah, So tell me how did
Speaker 1: you get put it into the pholde man and the rap?
Speaker 1: A lot of folk like, how did that happen? How
Speaker 1: did that come about? Um? I was always doing music,
Speaker 1: right because my father is a musician, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So coming out of New Orleans, was always
Speaker 1: doing some kind of music, right, So, um, I knew
Speaker 1: I was going to express myself musically. I just didn't
Speaker 1: then know and what farm it would be by instrumentation,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, singing or something like that.
Speaker 1: But when I got my first win in hip hop, Um,
Speaker 1: I think the song, yeah, the song was Planet Rocket.
Speaker 1: When I heard that one, I say, now, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, even even even I didn't even started
Speaker 1: crafting then, right, but I knew that the seed was planning.
Speaker 1: I knew that's how I wanted to express myself musically. Right. So, Um,
Speaker 1: about the age of thirteen, man, I moved to Houston
Speaker 1: with my grandparents from New Orleans, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: to give me a better shot of better opportunity to
Speaker 1: get me out the projects. And I would come back
Speaker 1: to New Orleans for the summertime and things like that,
Speaker 1: and me and my dad would get off into the
Speaker 1: studio and we have recorded a demo three songs. Um.
Speaker 1: I went back to Houston started working for the summertime.
Speaker 1: Um at the Olive Gordon restaurant. Yeah, man, Tony Draper there,
Speaker 1: that was my nigger. We were working there as teenagers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was younger. We're working at the Olive Garden together
Speaker 1: and Um, he's taking me home one night because that
Speaker 1: nigga had the will. So he taking me home one
Speaker 1: night after closing, I popped in the UM, I popped
Speaker 1: in my demo. He hit the demo. He asked it.
Speaker 1: He he asked it. He hoped the demo right and Um,
Speaker 1: so I let him hold the demo. He come back
Speaker 1: to me UM the following week and he like misting. Man,
Speaker 1: I got a I got a homey man that worked
Speaker 1: up at rapp a Lot. He's produced. His name is
Speaker 1: John Beto. I let him hear the demo. He took
Speaker 1: demo to ARM to UM to J Prince. We called
Speaker 1: him to a J at the time. Took the timo
Speaker 1: the Jay Prince. And they want to have a meeting
Speaker 1: with us. You know what I mean because it was
Speaker 1: me and Tony Draper who was putting the money together
Speaker 1: behind meeting in the studio. You did so, um, and
Speaker 1: that's how the initial meeting with UM with rapp a
Speaker 1: Lot had came about. So they went at the meeting,
Speaker 1: they presented me with the arm with the convict situation. Right,
Speaker 1: Um he was. They told me they had a group
Speaker 1: that just working on called the convict with mrs with
Speaker 1: three too. There's another guy that's on rapp a lot.
Speaker 1: He passed away as well. His name is Big Mellow,
Speaker 1: but he was also a member of the group, but
Speaker 1: he happened to be locked up at the time, right,
Speaker 1: So Jay Prince, he was, man, we heard your music,
Speaker 1: we liked with you and Tony doing right. Um, if
Speaker 1: you know I'm saying you come on and help us
Speaker 1: with this complict project, then we'll turned around and kept
Speaker 1: y'all with what y'all trying to do. You feel me?
Speaker 1: And I just saw it as an opportunity. I had
Speaker 1: heard if I wrapped a lot, I knew what they
Speaker 1: was doing and things like that. I was a fan
Speaker 1: of some of the music they was putting out already,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, um, I just saw
Speaker 1: I saw it as an opportunity. So I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, let's do it. And that's
Speaker 1: how the complext opportunity had came about. Oh that's real dope.
Speaker 1: So so you and three two didn't really y'all, We
Speaker 1: wasn't really familiar with each other. Then put you all
Speaker 1: together because your chemistry was incredible. Yeah, once, but once
Speaker 1: we got together though we had. We hit it off
Speaker 1: like a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. He would
Speaker 1: come out to my hood and just hanging out, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And we behind it, and by
Speaker 1: we behind it like a motherfucker. You know. That's that's
Speaker 1: my brother. He wasn't just a group. We wasn't just
Speaker 1: members of a group together, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's my brother. Man. We a lots of things together,
Speaker 1: you know. And um, that's why the chemistry had took
Speaker 1: off like it did. But um, yeah, shout out to
Speaker 1: Mrry too, man, God Lexi, Man, he was awesome, awesome,
Speaker 1: NIKEL behind that pin um a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of characters, you know. Um yeah, and I missed the
Speaker 1: guy a lot. Man. But yeah, yeah, we we had
Speaker 1: we had missed chemistry to start with. Yeah, that's crazy, man.
Speaker 1: You know. So Big Miller was gonna be a part
Speaker 1: of the convix. Yeah yeah, because he because he had
Speaker 1: a classic album from the South too. He had he
Speaker 1: had a classic album and she was hard. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had a very classic album. So so at this time,
Speaker 1: so y'all do the y'all do the convict situation, and
Speaker 1: you would kind of made your way up to the
Speaker 1: West coast at one point, didn't you yeah show that
Speaker 1: about the Convix record. I think it was out maybe
Speaker 1: I bout going on a year and UM UM by
Speaker 1: way of UM Michael Harris, HARRYO and his wife at
Speaker 1: the time, NDI Ga Harry UM that's when I got first.
Speaker 1: That's when exactly so they had They was like, UM,
Speaker 1: you know we're starting the label with Dr Drey You
Speaker 1: Feel Me and UM called death Flow Records, right, and
Speaker 1: we think that to the dope the convicts on death Row,
Speaker 1: so UM Death High. That whole engagement had came about
Speaker 1: you Feel Me. So after they UM, you know, we
Speaker 1: get the call from UM from Jake Prince and he
Speaker 1: like listen, man, y'all in the l A. We really
Speaker 1: didn't even much know what was happening at the time though,
Speaker 1: and UM ship thinking a very mixtape. We was in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, you think what I'm saying, and UM got
Speaker 1: him to the studio. They come picked us up. That's
Speaker 1: the first time I met su met d O, c
Speaker 1: Um Gray, UM, who else was there? Raided. They had
Speaker 1: a big group called Image that was there. That's funny
Speaker 1: because Image first song that they ever sung They sung
Speaker 1: the hook on my album on Music to drive By
Speaker 1: on the song called use a Pitch. Yes, that's Image
Speaker 1: who's singing that right there? I forgot that Images. I
Speaker 1: I was there at the beginning, man, I'm telling me.
Speaker 1: I was there to Let me tell you something, niggas
Speaker 1: don't know. We came up with that death Row name
Speaker 1: sitting down with Unknown and DJ Slip at a restaurant
Speaker 1: one night. Yeah, let me tell you something. Ann was
Speaker 1: getting ready to work on my record, Music to drive By.
Speaker 1: We was at We was at Harold and Bells one
Speaker 1: night and then Nikker said, I just hooked up with
Speaker 1: Sugar them and they still to start a new label.
Speaker 1: They're trying to come up with a name for me.
Speaker 1: Fielding Slip was sitting there with Unknown and we said
Speaker 1: death Row and we named the d E F after
Speaker 1: motherfucking Champ. Remember they had them letter motherfucking Coach at
Speaker 1: the front. Yeah, black, Yeah, exactly. We started that ship
Speaker 1: because we gonna be a part of that ship, Me
Speaker 1: and kill at CMW. We were gonna be able. We
Speaker 1: were gonna be like a group under Death Row as well.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of history behind that, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: know DJ and d J Slip had got brought on
Speaker 1: as producers because they were they was working on Your Time,
Speaker 1: Big Ship. Yeah yeah, and so working on the comic
Speaker 1: Ship and y'all law here just so you're a law
Speaker 1: here on the West Coach, y'all just at the time,
Speaker 1: just making records because r b X always talks about that.
Speaker 1: He got a lot of love for yo. He's like
Speaker 1: man Big Mike and Bick Mike, Bick Mike the RB Man.
Speaker 1: That's my dick Man. I love well Man, Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, um, while we was staring man Ship Man,
Speaker 1: it was a good time. Man, it was it was
Speaker 1: a new definition of family to me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I really felt that California love, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Um, Um, it helped me sharpen up
Speaker 1: as an artist as well. My time there, my experience
Speaker 1: that we didn't get an opportunity to release that album
Speaker 1: on UM because I came back and I recorded the
Speaker 1: Ghetto Boys album, right, So my treachers was to come
Speaker 1: back I to record the Ghetto Boys album. But things
Speaker 1: had kind of took off when I was on that
Speaker 1: blower coaster back then. But um, shioging them, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Man, they was true throughout throughout the
Speaker 1: whole situation. Man, you know what I mean, I can't
Speaker 1: even lie. Man. Shout out to Big Shig Man. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He looked out for me in
Speaker 1: a real way, looked out for my mama in a
Speaker 1: real way. Man. You know what I'm saying, made a
Speaker 1: move that helped changed our lives, you know what i mean.
Speaker 1: So I'm thankful for that as well. Um got a
Speaker 1: cancer to be free, Snooth, Orangey and everybody. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: we all stayed together for a small period of time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That was awesome and ship
Speaker 1: like that man and um, even though we didn't get
Speaker 1: the chest weeks that album. Can hear the competence to
Speaker 1: us all over that crime. You didn't hear what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, so, UM, you know that that was That
Speaker 1: was a good looking for us as well. Although I would,
Speaker 1: um um rather have been performing on the record, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But um it didn't come about,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But um, experience and um,
Speaker 1: everything that I gained from being down there, Man, it
Speaker 1: was a plus. You know what I'm saying. They sent
Speaker 1: me back to Houston on fire. It did. Y'all heard
Speaker 1: the true when I did that ghettle for us that
Speaker 1: when I dropped that something serious, A lot of that
Speaker 1: material was formulated when I was on the West. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: you know what, you know, it's crazy, but you're seeing
Speaker 1: that brow. The album does have a real West Coast
Speaker 1: field to it has. It has a real strong West
Speaker 1: Coast field to it, like when you came with the um,
Speaker 1: you know, with the smoking and choking, like the motherfucker
Speaker 1: Peter Man with the snooper, with the snoop when he
Speaker 1: out of you off that thing. Yeah, album, it's it's
Speaker 1: a classic album, Dog, And I want to go back
Speaker 1: to something that you mentioned. We don't touch on that
Speaker 1: Gettle Boys album Real quick Man, especially while eight Gone,
Speaker 1: because ay, you want me to be all politically correct,
Speaker 1: I can ask the questions I really want to ask
Speaker 1: now on that Ghetto Boys album, Dog, what was going
Speaker 1: on with you and scar Face? That sounds like a competition,
Speaker 1: bro Uh, it wasn't like an over competition, right, um,
Speaker 1: But you know, naturally, right, naturally, you got two dogs
Speaker 1: on the squad. You feel me, they're gonna they're gonna
Speaker 1: look for any motivation. You think what I'm saying, that's
Speaker 1: available right to get busy. So that's that's all what's
Speaker 1: going on. Man. If it was any kind of competition,
Speaker 1: it was brotherly competition that we both wanted to get
Speaker 1: the album out with that. That's how I looked at
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you, like this dog and this,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you all in them comments
Speaker 1: and sending me still you're tripping. But Big I was
Speaker 1: getting up the scar face asked with some of them songs,
Speaker 1: some of them records. You was definitely giving the business.
Speaker 1: And that's no disrespect to Scarface and scar faced thing
Speaker 1: on there. And he is one of the greatest of
Speaker 1: all time. But but you gotta put Big Mike in
Speaker 1: the same category because you was on That's what I
Speaker 1: listening to lyrics, man, You was on there giving it
Speaker 1: to him. Hey, man, I appreciate that analysis. I really,
Speaker 1: I really do shout out the star face man, because
Speaker 1: the brother is a pillar when it comes to Southern
Speaker 1: hip hop and hippop as a whole. It was honor
Speaker 1: for me to get down on that project man. You know, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I really learned a lot doing that process. Man,
Speaker 1: shout out, which we feel man, they got UM blessed
Speaker 1: your spirit man, you know what I mean. Awesome brother,
Speaker 1: you know, UM we all had some upstick downs and
Speaker 1: things like that. We're looking at the fact, looking back
Speaker 1: at it now in hindsight, UM, everything had to happen.
Speaker 1: It had the UM play a part and our foundational history.
Speaker 1: You think what I'm saying. So, you know, I appreciate
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get down and because that project with
Speaker 1: them guys, you know what I'm saying. Unfortunately it didn't
Speaker 1: branch off into other UM projects with all of us together,
Speaker 1: you know, but it did UM help provide a platform
Speaker 1: for me to be able to drop my solo career.
Speaker 1: And I was good, Now you did so sure, so
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. So you know, but you
Speaker 1: being with Death Row after that that gett boys el
Speaker 1: came out to sugg them get back at you like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up, big Mike. We're trying to get you over here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, should me and shouldn't listen? Even when I
Speaker 1: went back to because of the Ghettos project, right, it
Speaker 1: was like I was still along Death Row. I was
Speaker 1: still hand me because when we were called to get
Speaker 1: a project gotter it was released. You know the first
Speaker 1: crime of tour it was um, it was it was
Speaker 1: it was death Row and the ghetti is you think
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And Ship I wrote on to a
Speaker 1: bus with him. You think what I'm saying. So if
Speaker 1: it was family, I still had my place out there
Speaker 1: in l A. You think what I'm saying. She was
Speaker 1: still looking out for me. I was still whenever they
Speaker 1: we had UM we traveled for like music from Pitchons
Speaker 1: and Ship. I was always with them, So you know,
Speaker 1: like that didn't ever stop, right, Um, But I did
Speaker 1: end up recording the solo project with Rapp a lot.
Speaker 1: Deathro has started going to some changes at the time, right,
Speaker 1: and then me not being there physically in the midst, Right,
Speaker 1: I didn't really understand what was going on. So I
Speaker 1: made a business decision at the time that was best
Speaker 1: for myself and my family. What I thought. You think
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right, and um, and and I had.
Speaker 1: I lived with my decision and I moved forward, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it was always love with
Speaker 1: me and the artists. I broke with Raide Lou warranty
Speaker 1: as corrupt you well, you know what I'm saying everybody
Speaker 1: that was that was that was out there that you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that I was able to become
Speaker 1: friends with the things like that, Me and Mry too,
Speaker 1: you know everybody, you know, we we was good. You know,
Speaker 1: at times I do wish I would stay and seeing
Speaker 1: what what what it came about from that, But you know,
Speaker 1: we make our decisions that we have to live, when
Speaker 1: we have to move forward. It's all a part of
Speaker 1: our foundation history. As I said, exactly, Man, That's what
Speaker 1: I believe. Guys always ever clean and sometimes we just
Speaker 1: just just fell with that is you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: usually when you following guys, con is always winds up
Speaker 1: being the path of least resistance exactly exactly, even though
Speaker 1: you can't see it at the time, right and when
Speaker 1: you look back at it, if you're grown a little
Speaker 1: bit and then you can see, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, I'm I'm just gonna be good with that.
Speaker 1: Guy has been amazing in my life. Man, Hey, shout
Speaker 1: out to the father from the man because I can't
Speaker 1: deny it. I'm so thankful bro to able to be
Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing, still doing what I'm doing at
Speaker 1: this age, I'm a father. I'm not old, but I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm about to be fifty, but you know,
Speaker 1: still doing what I'm doing. Defnit, the five years still
Speaker 1: turned up for it, you know. So yeah, man, I'm thankful.
Speaker 1: I ain't did nothing else professionally since the age of eighteen.
Speaker 1: So you know that orders say a lot. So you know,
Speaker 1: shout out thanks to the blood man. Really sure, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a blessing, man, because you're doing love and
Speaker 1: I want to go bank. I want to go back
Speaker 1: a little bit. Man, did you and three to everything
Speaker 1: about doing it when he was alive, when he was
Speaker 1: here on the plant, Did y'all ever think about doing
Speaker 1: another convict album? Man? We had once I had came
Speaker 1: home from I wanted pepper to a little at the
Speaker 1: time he look and um. When I got that home,
Speaker 1: me and my brother got together. He was working on
Speaker 1: some things. I had to get myself back. We actively
Speaker 1: made into society, you feel me and try to you know,
Speaker 1: get you know, established, were established my relationship with my
Speaker 1: children and everything. Right. So after that was done, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, we got talking about the Compix
Speaker 1: situation and we actually they had got together in the
Speaker 1: studio or on a few songs, but we didn't get
Speaker 1: an opportunity to, um delve into it really deeply, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And um, I wish he had
Speaker 1: a you know, before he had made his own time
Speaker 1: in mind, you know what I'm saying. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is at this point. But if
Speaker 1: we still have um a lot of unreleased material on
Speaker 1: me too, and who knows, you know, I made slide
Speaker 1: on a couple of joints just to release him as
Speaker 1: scenes just for the the stylegio with not you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I would hate to try to
Speaker 1: embark on the full help without him press you feel me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to just put a bunch of songs done
Speaker 1: together without us actually being together in two ago, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But the Convict album is a classic. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a lesson that we was there to do come
Speaker 1: together for that when it because that when they put
Speaker 1: that when out there in the world, you know, um,
Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, I wish we would have had
Speaker 1: more time to be able to getting to the studio
Speaker 1: and do another compics record. Yeah for sure. Let's let's
Speaker 1: talk about a little three too. A little bit because
Speaker 1: it was a minute. Man. I always look at Houston, man,
Speaker 1: I always look at the soft period right as like
Speaker 1: our sister city. Kind of like because the Houston sound
Speaker 1: at one time was really close to the l A sound.
Speaker 1: We kind of were both steak on the phone, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Yeah, we were both steaking the phone, man,
Speaker 1: and you know I picked up I mean with Houston sound,
Speaker 1: and you gotta figure it was kind of like us,
Speaker 1: because I always kind of figured like them niggas is
Speaker 1: like us, man. You figured, uh, they sounds more like
Speaker 1: West Coast or not even with that sound, but they
Speaker 1: kind of struggles kind of sort of going the same
Speaker 1: timelines as ours. That's why I always felt I connected
Speaker 1: more the Tectas rappers and shipped down South because everybody
Speaker 1: else was on different ship, but we could relate to
Speaker 1: the Even New York niggas was different than we were,
Speaker 1: you get me. But Texas niggas was like like Louisiana Texas, mrs.
Speaker 1: It was like down there was like niggas that I
Speaker 1: could relate to because my family was from Mental cifty,
Speaker 1: so anytime I was the family reused them to their
Speaker 1: niggas would be on ship. We were low riders and
Speaker 1: hoods ships, neighborhoods and and banging. Uh, the poverty type
Speaker 1: of struggle of that type of ship. So that's why
Speaker 1: I think our new could kind of related on the
Speaker 1: same timeline. And then geographically Texas it's down south, right,
Speaker 1: but Texas is leads more towards southwest. And what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 1: and um, even though they're their neighbors and it's the
Speaker 1: closest city, Mason City to Louisiana, Um, it's still different,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's still different. And you know,
Speaker 1: music was on some gamest ship. He didn't what I said,
Speaker 1: It was on some case of ship. You know, get
Speaker 1: with southern and things like that, but we we didn't
Speaker 1: share the blood out that same thing. You think what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So because Texas were getting we just getting
Speaker 1: mused from from the West Coast further, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And when I was in New Orleans, we
Speaker 1: was getting music coming out of New York further. And
Speaker 1: then what I'm saying, but you know, shout out to
Speaker 1: both places, man, both places the hard in their own
Speaker 1: like man, well, shout out to that West coast man.
Speaker 1: That's our cousin. Yeah, you know, because like your first
Speaker 1: like you know, it was like I said, I'll played
Speaker 1: ball with a bunch of cats from Texas. You know
Speaker 1: when I tell you they was T shirt and kaks,
Speaker 1: just like we were ten khakis and a white T shirts.
Speaker 1: Yeah ship, I said, really, if you look at it,
Speaker 1: you mean like I said, uh, New York, you know
Speaker 1: how the you know the ship that you know we
Speaker 1: started off with as far as the banging, the cripple
Speaker 1: and blood and type of ship like that, But Texas
Speaker 1: was on us first. You get me, I pull up
Speaker 1: in Texas and Niggas was blood and Niggas was crippin.
Speaker 1: And I was way before New York started. So that's
Speaker 1: why I said we were trying to cousins with it,
Speaker 1: because that's what I recognized when I first started touring
Speaker 1: down South. I'd be like, man, these thinkers in khaki
Speaker 1: suits and Chuck Taylor's and ship, and even though they
Speaker 1: got the big they got the impolace with the big
Speaker 1: motherfucking rims and that type, they were still on neighborhood
Speaker 1: ship like we were. You get me on that ship
Speaker 1: like we was at Birch. But Texas you could go
Speaker 1: down to Texas and Louisatta, Louisiana, and even like I said,
Speaker 1: Mississippi niggas was wearing catching suits and bandannas and playing
Speaker 1: in blood. That's why I think you should kind of
Speaker 1: relate it to in the aspect. Yeah, real, you know
Speaker 1: what the thing is, the big Mike. It all occurs
Speaker 1: from the stove because the South is all of our home.
Speaker 1: Everybody from eight you know me and ain't talking about
Speaker 1: it all the time. We was all getting them cars
Speaker 1: taking the trips to either Mississippi, New Orleans that you
Speaker 1: had family down there. My whole family is from um
Speaker 1: Mr Happy, you don't even want to see it. Mississippi. Yeah, people,
Speaker 1: all my people from Gulfport, Mississippi. So that's what we
Speaker 1: used to take all our family on summer vacation. Mom
Speaker 1: stickers on the Greyhound motherfucking bus and were on our
Speaker 1: way to Gulfport, Mississippi. We're spending the whole summlers down there.
Speaker 1: So my music related to down shout shot South with
Speaker 1: heavy They suck with me heavy down South. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the thing because you know me, but you know how
Speaker 1: it is. Man. A lot of people's man, especially out
Speaker 1: of that California man a lot of people place their
Speaker 1: anxiers that Louisiana to that Texas. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I see that a lot up our co host that
Speaker 1: you didn't get to meet today, Big Mike, Big James,
Speaker 1: the Texas dude. Okay. You know that's where his roots
Speaker 1: is from. You know his family, you know his roots
Speaker 1: and everything. Texas man. You know one thing about it,
Speaker 1: Big Mike. I went down there. I loved it because
Speaker 1: you go down need to see a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: big black niggas that looks just like you. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: where I get it from. You know what I mean already,
Speaker 1: the whole bunch of black niggas. Man. So you're doing music, man,
Speaker 1: And at this time you mentioned that she was with
Speaker 1: Tony Draper at first, who in his own right became
Speaker 1: of a real nice executive, you know, hey, And I
Speaker 1: tell you, you you know because we just basically you know
Speaker 1: kids right here working at the Olive Garden and Ship.
Speaker 1: And I tell you, even even then, his his aspirations
Speaker 1: wasn't to be a wrapper, right. He wanted to run company.
Speaker 1: You feel me, even as kids evenything, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: wanna be a rapper. You think all teenagers think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be rappers that they ain't. He would think about
Speaker 1: being a weapon. He was thinking CEO from Jump And
Speaker 1: it's just it's just awesome, dad, what we both aspied
Speaker 1: for and set out together on. Right at a certain point,
Speaker 1: it both happened for us. You feel me? Did you
Speaker 1: ever trip that? Huh? Do you all even sit back
Speaker 1: now and trick on that? Hey, when we get together,
Speaker 1: it comes up. We're talking about it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? We definitely, we definitely talked about it. Um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's an amazing thing. Um. You know
Speaker 1: that we actually sit down and we talked about this
Speaker 1: ship and embarked on the ship. Ye, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I go to study that. And you never
Speaker 1: try to get on the mic, you hear me. We
Speaker 1: just pay to pay for the studio time. Man, let's
Speaker 1: get it. Hear me. We get off and then getting
Speaker 1: ship done. But I say, maybe enough, gus amazing, But
Speaker 1: both others through this wind up coming through and people
Speaker 1: don't really know that. That's why I like to make
Speaker 1: mention of that you did what I'm saying, I'd like
Speaker 1: to make mention of that, you know, But that shut
Speaker 1: out Tony Draper Man when he was able to accomplish
Speaker 1: over there. I ship, as a young artist, knew about
Speaker 1: Tony Draper You know what I'm saying, And that's that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Some dudes had that vision that I
Speaker 1: don't need to be that you give me, you know
Speaker 1: the position I want to play. I don't need to
Speaker 1: be the superstar and make it get a little jealous
Speaker 1: because you start bumping on the mic and start feeling
Speaker 1: like shining more than man. He move from the jump.
Speaker 1: I wanna be behind the den. We got some aspirations
Speaker 1: for a teenager. That's an aspiration to go, especially with
Speaker 1: being in the midst of all the hip hop that
Speaker 1: was going on and all the rappers and knowing it
Speaker 1: was that fine for us to get on. He said, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I don't need that ship to know what position I
Speaker 1: want to play. You beat the rapper, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: the song I'm gonna be the CEO Tony Drape the
Speaker 1: Suave Hounds or whatever whatever that was the ship man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really let me ask you this thing, Mike, wasn't
Speaker 1: every time that you almost might have wound up on
Speaker 1: Suave House no, because I was already and um, we'll
Speaker 1: offer to my relationship with rapping that time, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: we had to do the corrected So I think, um,
Speaker 1: the convict the head came out. Um, I thing, maybe
Speaker 1: the ghetto for us before we start really hearing about
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, following m J G. Right
Speaker 1: before he started getting a rounded things like that. You know.
Speaker 1: So like I said, you know, I was already all
Speaker 1: my journey at that point. You think what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And um, he was, he was into his journey. But
Speaker 1: we did come together. You know, I was able to
Speaker 1: record um on you know, a song with on Falling G.
Speaker 1: So you know, um, we still remain, you still remain
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Cool, you know to a
Speaker 1: certain extent. Right, But we we didn't spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time around each other because, like I said, he
Speaker 1: was on his journey, I was on my journey. But
Speaker 1: you know, it would have been dope if we was
Speaker 1: able to come together and do something just on just
Speaker 1: on just on the history factor, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But um, everything happens like it supposed that happen, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And we both finding catching our
Speaker 1: names and um in the book, so you know it
Speaker 1: worked out. Yeah, that's real spill man. I gotta go
Speaker 1: back because I'm bounced around a little bit. You knew
Speaker 1: about to Get a Boy's history obviously before you joined
Speaker 1: the group. How was that phone call that looks that
Speaker 1: he hits you up? Like, how did that come about?
Speaker 1: Big Mike? You want to be a Get a Boy?
Speaker 1: Was it just a phone call? I'd tell you. Um,
Speaker 1: I was already in Los Angeles, right, We was working
Speaker 1: on the Compics record with Dick slip trade arng Um unknown. Right,
Speaker 1: we was already working on a compet record, and it
Speaker 1: was a little window where where motherfuckers had started kicking
Speaker 1: the real head. You know what I'm saying. It was?
Speaker 1: It was it was a lot of part of you, right,
Speaker 1: So kind of like that production slowed down a little bit, right,
Speaker 1: I was getting harder to catch up with shooting this
Speaker 1: ship at the time, you feel me, right, everybody was
Speaker 1: still good. We're still well taking care of you. Think
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I had to y'all had to spot.
Speaker 1: Y'all have to spot, had the spot. It was so
Speaker 1: lot field, you get what I'm saying. So, but it's
Speaker 1: kind of like production has slowed down the middle field,
Speaker 1: right and um, and that's when I had wind up
Speaker 1: getting a call. But I knew the situation for Willie
Speaker 1: d leave it right prior to me leaving to come
Speaker 1: to Los Ange. You feel me, I was already there.
Speaker 1: I was aware, tempt you did what I'm saying. So, um,
Speaker 1: when they did hit me up and they ran it
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I'm saying, was like, you
Speaker 1: know when it didn't come back to the group, right,
Speaker 1: and we've been sitting when I had it beat. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, what we call with the ghetto
Speaker 1: for us from here and everybody was like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, your name's help coming up. And it
Speaker 1: was like me to grab the mike they might, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, let's go take micro. So I
Speaker 1: didn't jump on it immediately, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I had I just thought about it for a little while. Um,
Speaker 1: things hadn't picked up on the complex project. I think
Speaker 1: we was maybe like probably about five five six songs
Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, and it had kind of came to
Speaker 1: you know, little stopped right. So UM, I then listen,
Speaker 1: I already had a couple of kids, and I didn't
Speaker 1: really come down there just to be wasting too much time.
Speaker 1: You feel me, I really don't get it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: making some money, you know what I mean? I asking
Speaker 1: for no money, but let me let's finish the record
Speaker 1: with it out. Let me make some money for you
Speaker 1: and I so I can go back and take care
Speaker 1: of my people. You feel me. So the Gether plus came.
Speaker 1: I talked about it. He wasn't win it at first.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, Sloop, I talk me out of it. Eight.
Speaker 1: We talked to eight. It was like, maybe you should
Speaker 1: wait because you feel me like, man, get in touch.
Speaker 1: We should right. I'm like, I don't wait, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wind up doing that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: talking should in the process he wanted up pick me
Speaker 1: and we was you know, we was like, yeah. He said,
Speaker 1: when you're gonna come back through the solo project with us?
Speaker 1: I said yeah, you know, like I said, I still
Speaker 1: had my place everything, should still see me money. He
Speaker 1: was still there for my nigga. It didn't matter if
Speaker 1: I was you know what I mean. You was just
Speaker 1: like I was signing death from you feel me and um.
Speaker 1: But by time we had finished doing to get up
Speaker 1: was that and came out. We went on their first
Speaker 1: Prontic tour and then things had kind of started changing.
Speaker 1: Jethro started having his problems, started having back you feel
Speaker 1: me and um so I was like, well, I don't,
Speaker 1: I didn't a wait for a minute, I don't really
Speaker 1: know what's happening. You did what I'm saying over there
Speaker 1: right now. I really didn't know who was the charge
Speaker 1: of things like that. So that was good over the
Speaker 1: rapper Locks at this time right than its was cool.
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, we'll see man, thanks
Speaker 1: cool man. We got we we we we we got
Speaker 1: that sound. People love to hear me with that sound. Right,
Speaker 1: let's let's block another. So so I embalked on the
Speaker 1: solo um then with them around that time. But um yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know me and should we were still cool
Speaker 1: throughout it. That's crazy to work out. So you told
Speaker 1: me to stay out here and wait, I mean because
Speaker 1: no disrespect because everybody know faces my nigga. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: Jay is my nigga, you know. But it was a
Speaker 1: big opportunity. You know, everybody knew that rapper Lock ghetto boys.
Speaker 1: But death role was on from you get me Death
Speaker 1: role was fuck is Dr Dre and stric and fucking
Speaker 1: me Like it's like, you can't deny that that ship. Man.
Speaker 1: If any time you get the opportunity to be around
Speaker 1: a nigga like Drake, like I said, no disrespect because
Speaker 1: little Jake and and fucking Mr Brad Jordan's my nigger.
Speaker 1: You get me. But to have that opportunity, because that's
Speaker 1: something we all we was waiting around to get our
Speaker 1: terms on Death Row because like I said, we were
Speaker 1: all figuring we was gonna be a part of this
Speaker 1: entity because we were all trying to make this shift go.
Speaker 1: You get me from from Sugar and from up behind
Speaker 1: the team nigging me and chill and splits. We're rooting
Speaker 1: for my condemn was my nigger, Mike, and three two
Speaker 1: was my nigger. So we're rooting for a death Row
Speaker 1: to shoot because the that was gonna be the first nigger.
Speaker 1: There was no other artists, you know. Then Three the
Speaker 1: Convicts was gonna be before Drey did the Crony, before
Speaker 1: Snoop did Doggy Style. The record was going to be
Speaker 1: the record. Yeah, it was in the process of working
Speaker 1: on the deep Cover sounds. It was when Mike and
Speaker 1: three two was there, so they was gonna be like
Speaker 1: the first official group on death Row. That would have
Speaker 1: been crazy man A convicts would have done the drinking
Speaker 1: your beats over the yeah. And I I tell you
Speaker 1: it was a couple of factors that played into it, right.
Speaker 1: So one one factor was that I had to consider
Speaker 1: It's like, which I'm like the high school ball player.
Speaker 1: I get to come right out of high school and
Speaker 1: the Rockets want me exactly you feel me? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about that too, right, and what that's gonna
Speaker 1: mean for my family and my oaks at home, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I didn't understand how grad
Speaker 1: worked at the time, and feel me. We still caught
Speaker 1: up an excitement of being there and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and this and that I really didn't understand
Speaker 1: how he worked at the time. You know, Gray, he
Speaker 1: had gathered his artists, listen to what everybody got, and
Speaker 1: here select the heat for himself, not totally for himself.
Speaker 1: The artist is gonna get the chinas well, but he's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna use this material and fielding
Speaker 1: this project that I'm killed. You feel me? And sometimes
Speaker 1: the artists don't know at the time, I didn't find
Speaker 1: out that great gangsterism and missed the officer what's gonna
Speaker 1: be on the crime until I had got thank to
Speaker 1: you you feel Me. I gets back to Houston and
Speaker 1: I gets the call and Um and like, hey, you
Speaker 1: might you know Dr Trade um recorded your song for
Speaker 1: the UM for the Chronic album. You need to call
Speaker 1: him me see what's happening, right. I called him and
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, yeah, Dad, I'm gonna using this and
Speaker 1: that just now. I said, but damn, man, what told me?
Speaker 1: Because I recorded the songs for the gett a boy
Speaker 1: protect you feel me? So he like, man, we can
Speaker 1: work something out, right, I do try for the ghetto
Speaker 1: boys will be a you know. I said, well, we'll
Speaker 1: be able to spend one of them. You feel me?
Speaker 1: You know? So Um, But that's why you heard a
Speaker 1: version of Mr Officer on that Chronic two thousand that
Speaker 1: should have put out. Remember we knock off anyway, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you heard Mr Labors on there and like, um when
Speaker 1: Dr Trade did the interview for the Source of magazine
Speaker 1: when he had fat to his head, right and he
Speaker 1: was talking about the crime in the funeral, right, and
Speaker 1: he telling them about the songs, and they listened to
Speaker 1: songs for the pro time people from the source that's interviewing,
Speaker 1: and when he gets to the one song to Um,
Speaker 1: the interviewer says, he stands up. It's like his chest
Speaker 1: stands up. Looks I just window that's overlooking the Scottline
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and he said, yeah, out of all this,
Speaker 1: this is my favorite song on the album. And then
Speaker 1: the interview proceeds to quote the course was Mr officer.
Speaker 1: Mr officer, I wanted to put your ass in the coffer, right.
Speaker 1: But see, if I would have known this right, I
Speaker 1: would have stayed. I'd have been like, kid, then you
Speaker 1: can pray fearing me nigger to feel me you want
Speaker 1: to use ship that I wrote for the clinic, I
Speaker 1: would have staved my nigga. But at the time, I
Speaker 1: didn't even know if he was really feeling me like that,
Speaker 1: you feel like. I didn't find out until later, But
Speaker 1: I didn't understand his method, how he worked. He did
Speaker 1: what I'm saying right, had I had known had some
Speaker 1: insight into these things, even if I had insighting to
Speaker 1: that he was really feeling me like you did what
Speaker 1: I'm saying right, Um, I would I would have probably
Speaker 1: I would have probably started over a little bit harder
Speaker 1: and and probably stayed you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: needs to get that done, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So but but but like I say, man, we don't
Speaker 1: came here with ret. We would we Rett, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I didn't learn a lot from my
Speaker 1: from my time down there, to feel me, I didn't
Speaker 1: learn a lot for my time down there. Um, I
Speaker 1: worked it into what I was doing right. Um, you
Speaker 1: heard glimpses of us and what they were doing as well,
Speaker 1: you feel me, so you could tell we was feeding
Speaker 1: off each other, you know what I mean. So you
Speaker 1: know it's just that they had to fell the layout
Speaker 1: at the time, you know what I mean. And let
Speaker 1: me tell you, sir, no, just respect, I nigged three
Speaker 1: too with influential most definitely. We didn't want to get
Speaker 1: in depth on that that might be me and you.
Speaker 1: My nigga three too was influent. Chose yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. As soon as didn't nobody started seeing big
Speaker 1: baby and let me let me tell you my nigga.
Speaker 1: So my nigga was in exactly, that was my nigga
Speaker 1: and he was influential exactly nigga. Niggers might be sleep
Speaker 1: on my nigga, And like I said, but that motherfucker
Speaker 1: right there, that nigga was heavy and when they came
Speaker 1: to that town, and that's the whole and the thing
Speaker 1: about that too, man um. You know, it's like we
Speaker 1: didn't find out about that until the Clinic cast came
Speaker 1: out because I had the demo to the Sick Feel Me.
Speaker 1: I had on the demo songs, I had phones. They
Speaker 1: didn't need to make the final cut You Feel Me,
Speaker 1: And we hadn't heard none of the skits and ship,
Speaker 1: No skitz was on there. So then when we get
Speaker 1: the clinic, we get bottom he finally come out. You know,
Speaker 1: we hear the skits and things like that, and niggas
Speaker 1: is like, hem, we enjoyed the material, but then you know,
Speaker 1: we're taking to ourselves, like damn, damn, niggas could have
Speaker 1: just called us and had us do that ship exactly
Speaker 1: You feel Me? If you're gonna use it, like, at
Speaker 1: least have us on the album. Here. We got shot
Speaker 1: it out on the album You Feel Me. But god damn,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be people at this time, and I'm like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: we could have got the in fight on the album, right,
Speaker 1: because now this ship is worldwide. You got Motherfucker's and Hungary,
Speaker 1: you got Motherfucker's and and and the Philippines really thought,
Speaker 1: big baby, I don't known hook. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Right to some people it might just be slam, but right,
Speaker 1: we know how it is. Right, we do the tools
Speaker 1: that we have around us, right while that our advantages
Speaker 1: ship like that, and even in the evening in the
Speaker 1: ghetto on the crime feel me slaying is important to
Speaker 1: let me tell you, it's the same situation. Then I
Speaker 1: started saying the g back in and motherfucker swear that
Speaker 1: ship comes from any and everywhere. You give me up.
Speaker 1: But I don't even trip off because I know back
Speaker 1: in I brought that to the table. You know where
Speaker 1: that chill comes from. You give me that. Ain't nobody Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: nothing that you ain't nobody dripping that. It's all good,
Speaker 1: have fun with it, do your thing, because I know,
Speaker 1: and a lot of niggers who know me know where
Speaker 1: that ship came from. So but you in the books,
Speaker 1: because people worldwide, no, dude, exactly that fun with eight
Speaker 1: So so you in the books, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, but at the time when we had
Speaker 1: got the material and it was new to us, we
Speaker 1: was like, damn my Nigga because we had came back
Speaker 1: home telling me Nigga, Nigga, Nigga Dr Frey and Nigga's
Speaker 1: going down out there that niggas ain't playing. Nigga's a
Speaker 1: motherfucker going back And so like niggas first, Niggas is
Speaker 1: jether because niggas is like, man, how the funding niggas
Speaker 1: get to go funk with Dr Craky for us? Right,
Speaker 1: So we run at this talking and dragging and ship
Speaker 1: and then when she come out, we're not on it,
Speaker 1: but they're doing our ship. You feel me think it
Speaker 1: was like but but at the same time though, niggas
Speaker 1: knew that our presents had been felt though, and then
Speaker 1: what I'm saying and that's a good thing. And then,
Speaker 1: like I said, they fed off for us. We fed
Speaker 1: off with him. This is real, mother, because do when
Speaker 1: they get together. You think what I'm saying so um,
Speaker 1: Like I said, man, the ship did a fire on me.
Speaker 1: I can't thank you. You don't fire you. I definitely
Speaker 1: benefited from my time in Los Angeles around those cats.
Speaker 1: You think what I'm saying, Man, we had some we
Speaker 1: had some good times. Every day was the news my nigga.
Speaker 1: It was basically yeah, yeah, gangsters know what I'm talking about. Anyway, Listen,
Speaker 1: we had, we had, We had an amazing time. Bro
Speaker 1: Um three two never held no fludges against against any
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, None of that any time
Speaker 1: I talked, any time I talked to my nigga, he
Speaker 1: had nothing but humble love for ship back back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The only time I was
Speaker 1: in my feelings is when my nigga had got killed.
Speaker 1: You feel me and then't at that time, you know
Speaker 1: how you think you're like, damn him. You're looking at
Speaker 1: the round you like, Man, if my nigga would have
Speaker 1: benefited from some of that ship that niggas came up us,
Speaker 1: this ship came up on, right, he wouldn't have never
Speaker 1: been in a position where he was still in that
Speaker 1: type of convironment. You did what I'm saying right around
Speaker 1: these pre fast niggas, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: things like that. Right. But um, but if he if
Speaker 1: he could come back and talk to me, he'd be
Speaker 1: like nah, you know, we him get down like that.
Speaker 1: But it was just an emotional thing for me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know how it is. But like,
Speaker 1: hold on, wait a fucking minute. They I want to
Speaker 1: talk to everybody that old my motherfucking brother. You did
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I don't get what is a family member.
Speaker 1: I won't talk to him too, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and ship like that until all the emotion his things
Speaker 1: like that settled. But um, I know he enjoyed his
Speaker 1: his um his time out there. You can hear in
Speaker 1: his style after he came back from l A that
Speaker 1: nigga was smooth and slick as a motherfucker. I think
Speaker 1: it was so smooth and beauty follow the bike that
Speaker 1: bigg was just man, I'm telling you, And what and
Speaker 1: never another nigga like you? Straight up? No no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, and good about it? And what's good about
Speaker 1: it for niggas who know? His legacy is still here
Speaker 1: for niggas who know, because you can see it's still
Speaker 1: here with niggas that know, and the fans are more
Speaker 1: educated now, you know what I mean. So it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a cool thing. I'm sure. Um, you know all
Speaker 1: the artists that we happen to be a friends out there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm sure they still
Speaker 1: think Hylie UM three too as well. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was that kind of personality, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And he was just a he would
Speaker 1: look outside of the music ship, man, he was just
Speaker 1: one of your niggas. Man. If you was good with
Speaker 1: three two and he became one of your niggas. Man,
Speaker 1: it was a good nigga outside of music. Like music,
Speaker 1: my nigga. Nig was the funny fucker to be around.
Speaker 1: I'm counting here. I think it used to dying man.
Speaker 1: He larious, Man, I didn't Yeah, yeah, I missed that
Speaker 1: guy though. I missed that. Yeah. Man, you know, Big Mike,
Speaker 1: we could talk about your classics man all day. But
Speaker 1: you've got some five rands new ship. Did you just
Speaker 1: put out man Finished the Job? What's going on with that? Yeah? Man,
Speaker 1: I had um thank you for bringing that up, man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Man got the new LP out right now.
Speaker 1: It is the title on Finished the Job. UM have
Speaker 1: released it right found when that COVID So it kind
Speaker 1: of like, uh kind of like it didn't actually so
Speaker 1: things down because I was still grinding with it. But
Speaker 1: you know it isn't here with everybody, um, everybody else
Speaker 1: to at the time, but here the album is out there. Man,
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell from what people tell me you
Speaker 1: did what I'm saying, bro, Definitely, yeah, I definitely at
Speaker 1: this stage, if I'm doing music and I'm coming out,
Speaker 1: I definitely want people here and here's that I've spent
Speaker 1: right doing my crap. You feel me. I want them
Speaker 1: to hear that when they go get the mute. I
Speaker 1: don't want them to hear me sounding like ninety three, right,
Speaker 1: and and don't you don't you trip off of that?
Speaker 1: A lot of the motherfucker's who listened to you today
Speaker 1: they want you to be so reminiscent of ninety three
Speaker 1: and ninety four. It's hard to explain to a motherfucker like,
Speaker 1: I'm so evolved from ninety three and ninety before. And
Speaker 1: I get it. That was the height of y'all. You
Speaker 1: love the negative at all you had out there if
Speaker 1: you have out there, and I get it. But it's
Speaker 1: a different mind people. It would have been cool if
Speaker 1: we was cash that had one one hit one record
Speaker 1: that we was known for, right, is easier to stay
Speaker 1: in that mode, right, because you know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: But when we was artists, that was used to see
Speaker 1: we come from the every hip hop, the hip hop
Speaker 1: we was digested in the early eighties and ship like that.
Speaker 1: You feel me. We grew up with with artists having
Speaker 1: the window to grow. You feel me. We grew up
Speaker 1: with l L. We grew up with Daddy. We watched it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Right, they taught us and
Speaker 1: things like that. So, um, it's just that today they
Speaker 1: don't that time of time, that kind of time is
Speaker 1: not a lobby to the artist, you know what I mean, right,
Speaker 1: because they don't. They don't. I hate to say judge,
Speaker 1: but they don't. Weigh an artists today on um their
Speaker 1: depth in music, right, it's really about what they could show,
Speaker 1: right and things like that. And we had all that
Speaker 1: ship too back in the eighties. That make we trump jewelry.
Speaker 1: They you see sick Ricky still doing it. You feel me.
Speaker 1: Niggas had real jewy. They that big ship back in
Speaker 1: cars and everything. You know what I'm saying. But the
Speaker 1: emphasis we're still on the music. You feel me. It
Speaker 1: was still on the music. But I do, Hey, I
Speaker 1: get that I get that a lot Cass wants you
Speaker 1: to say in that name, but they don't really understand
Speaker 1: that type of artists. We all won't allow us to
Speaker 1: stay complacent like that, you feel me, especially when you
Speaker 1: you still got you know, you feel like you got
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot to deal. They just want allow
Speaker 1: you to do that, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: if they walk with the new ship, they're definitely going
Speaker 1: to here that foundation that they're looking for. You feel me,
Speaker 1: it's definitely going to be there. And that's the whole
Speaker 1: treat of it. They like, damn, this think is really
Speaker 1: making this ship work because I'm hitting what I want
Speaker 1: to feel me and I'm I'm hearing what he's trying
Speaker 1: to do as well at this stage, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So you know, the fans, if they rock
Speaker 1: with you, they just have to really get into what
Speaker 1: you're doing. And um, so far, a lot of fans
Speaker 1: that came up and and and doing the nineties and
Speaker 1: things like that when we were doing other things, they
Speaker 1: tend to why with us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's why winners there there get you the opportunity, but
Speaker 1: you just have to give it the time to get
Speaker 1: a round to it and things like that. But I
Speaker 1: just try to keep it pushing, man. I try to
Speaker 1: keep my blades short as possible. So um, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, when all the music is collected
Speaker 1: and it's all done, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: want people to be able to hear escalation. I want
Speaker 1: them to be able to give some bro if they
Speaker 1: can walk away and say, damn, that was jamming at
Speaker 1: fifty to three harder than he was that twenty three.
Speaker 1: You feel me, man, I'm good, you feel me. I'm like, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: What I was trying to do was felt is then
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that's the whole thing. Man. It's
Speaker 1: just like le Bron and Ship they could say, man
Speaker 1: for the time tapping on the brown shower the crown, like,
Speaker 1: I just got to recalibrate my give Me a Ghost
Speaker 1: one with Nigga and I'm gonna show you to feel me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sorry the other side of the game. So
Speaker 1: that's what we have to do, man, And I think
Speaker 1: the fans at the end of the day, they're gonna
Speaker 1: appreciate that. They're gonna appreciate that that we try to
Speaker 1: keep it curving and continue to grow because you're still
Speaker 1: a lot of fans that's our age, man, that's out there,
Speaker 1: and they just haven't been bead you feel me. They
Speaker 1: just have a little But when we go around and
Speaker 1: do these shows right and these motherfucker um these cators
Speaker 1: be packed the lines were in the corner and show you, man,
Speaker 1: that that that the fan bases there, they're wrong with you,
Speaker 1: you feel me, But you gotta keep quick me. You know,
Speaker 1: if you stay consistent with the product and it's quality
Speaker 1: and it's good, it can't be no bullshit. And that's
Speaker 1: a lot of bulls A lot of times. That's what
Speaker 1: fun us up too, because yeah, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: us still around, but a lot of us ain't putting
Speaker 1: out the quality music that we are known to put out.
Speaker 1: It's like we're trying to adapt to a lot of
Speaker 1: what's going on, but you're forgetting that you were still
Speaker 1: gotta have that, still gotta have that. It happens, It happens.
Speaker 1: It happens to me, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: came home and I was trying to tip on what
Speaker 1: was happening at time, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: kind of stepped out and brought me some loud color
Speaker 1: tennis really my style, you know what. Man, there it
Speaker 1: was like we do that. We do it though, we
Speaker 1: do it, you know, my fuer you know. But when
Speaker 1: you already had that foundation, and it's kind of hard,
Speaker 1: so you have to check yourself every now and then
Speaker 1: you got to chap yourself and you have to check yourself,
Speaker 1: and then you know, and and and and and you
Speaker 1: got to stand firm like a pam, you know, like
Speaker 1: a pam with the child, and you watch the child
Speaker 1: go through all these different stages. You feel me, but
Speaker 1: you can't change, right. That's how we are today in
Speaker 1: the game, right, the game is a child because we're
Speaker 1: watching the change go from stage, but we still have
Speaker 1: to stay firm. We can relate to them and keep
Speaker 1: it cool. You feel me, but at the same time
Speaker 1: they have to see that foundation firm, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And um, you know, And that's that's just
Speaker 1: how I see it. Some of the time depends on
Speaker 1: what I'm smoking. Different point of view. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know that the album Mills Gym and Man What
Speaker 1: a Turtle Man, and I kind of got our idea
Speaker 1: of my money. The title finish the Job gotta this
Speaker 1: is like double times right there. They gotta meeting to it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: most definitely, you know, because people always want to know,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, would happened with Big Mike.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying right there on that bubble
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you know, um, there's
Speaker 1: no secret. By now people knew I had had some
Speaker 1: problems with it, lady, and feel me. The ship went
Speaker 1: from the desk in the office and leaked out into
Speaker 1: the streets and got to the gangstership. Make a long
Speaker 1: story short, right for my part in it, I wind
Speaker 1: up doing some times, you feel me windinging some time.
Speaker 1: That's what happened with me, wind up getting a seven
Speaker 1: years since doing foe on next. But at the time,
Speaker 1: with no social media, this this was pretty social media
Speaker 1: well fulk was able to keep themselves going. Then I
Speaker 1: can pitch you that social media motherfucker can't have that. So, folks,
Speaker 1: that's that's a little while, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I felt like my career was interrupted by that
Speaker 1: drama with the label that led to my course ration.
Speaker 1: You feel me, right, So the job was complete. You
Speaker 1: did what I'm saying, I dropped some projects in the
Speaker 1: meantime after coming home a few mixtapes, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, a couple of couple of records, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, to keep it, stay active right and
Speaker 1: keep some money flowing. You did what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't that Big Mike project that I knew what
Speaker 1: was in me. So when I came to that point
Speaker 1: and I was comfortable where I met right in the music,
Speaker 1: the sound came together for me in that pocket at
Speaker 1: that time, I said, you know what this it's what
Speaker 1: I want to finish the job with. I guess the
Speaker 1: first step and finishing the job you did. So when um,
Speaker 1: when that type of came to me, man, it's stuck
Speaker 1: with me. You know. It had that definitely that meeting
Speaker 1: behind it, and it made people be like, you know,
Speaker 1: bring the question up, like finish the job with job
Speaker 1: or you finish it right, and then I'm able to
Speaker 1: get into the things that led up right, so they
Speaker 1: get some more history on Big Mike. You did what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, not like I just fell off playing it something.
Speaker 1: You did what I'm saying exactly sure, And that's what
Speaker 1: I'm glad man that that me and my brothers got
Speaker 1: the opportunity, man, you know, to have this show right
Speaker 1: here man, which we're getting like a million downloads on
Speaker 1: the audio a month now, dude. And we got the
Speaker 1: radio showed off. So doomdays of our brothers putting off
Speaker 1: music and not having a support system, it's them was over.
Speaker 1: We got a radio showing our brothers gonna be in
Speaker 1: ten of eleven different markets out here out West. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be in front of four or five million people
Speaker 1: every Friday. So the big mics of the world, the
Speaker 1: Moor three too always have. We're playing all that ship.
Speaker 1: I'm playing all that I see. I think you're two
Speaker 1: weeks Mike. We're gonna yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. We need that, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Shout out to your brothers
Speaker 1: for that, man. We need that. We need more brothers.
Speaker 1: That's that's UM that's on that side or the ball
Speaker 1: right to do their things and and create opportunities and
Speaker 1: avenues and things. You know what I mean, for the
Speaker 1: for the for the um, for the veteran artists, that's well,
Speaker 1: that's still got good music. The offer, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's all it is. We know how the
Speaker 1: radio game work, right. We know it's all about big
Speaker 1: record companies keeping their account paid up. You feel me,
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of us we're just not
Speaker 1: We're just like you know what Niggers is feeling us
Speaker 1: on the street. Right, We're good. We're able to make
Speaker 1: anifany eating things like that, but you know, to have
Speaker 1: to have our peers create avenues you feel me and
Speaker 1: say no, that ship ain't acceptable. Right, that's an awesome thing.
Speaker 1: So I can listen. I congratulate you guys on doing that. Man,
Speaker 1: I rocked, y'all. I think y'all for supporting us man,
Speaker 1: And y'all know I support whatever y'all doing. Oh Man,
Speaker 1: and we and we're playing the rivers on the radio, bro.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, we went to help you
Speaker 1: back to be on the radio show, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, you know we pushed stuff man and
Speaker 1: people Mike, Man, while we you mean, telling people where
Speaker 1: they can find you and where they can get at man. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: y'all for social lots of me on on the gram
Speaker 1: at O G think Mike, that's o G thick Mike.
Speaker 1: That's on the ground. And um and with that Facebook
Speaker 1: man on that Facebook as well man that I am
Speaker 1: Big Mike. I try to get them things consolidated. But
Speaker 1: I'm still working on it, you know what I mean. Um,
Speaker 1: But most definitely, man, y'all reach out to me on
Speaker 1: the ground at O G think Mike, y'all can keep
Speaker 1: up with me for the latest content, um, the latest
Speaker 1: material that I'm gonna be dropping, um when I got
Speaker 1: shows and things, performances coming up, you know, Um, different
Speaker 1: artists that I'm working with. You know, I even post
Speaker 1: the music or artists that that that hit me up
Speaker 1: and pay me the feature on their song. You think
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, Um, I'm just trying to give
Speaker 1: back man in the ways that I'm able to using
Speaker 1: my craft for things like that. You know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: most definitely man, y'all see that at me on that
Speaker 1: um on the on the plan that OK kick Mike
Speaker 1: on Facebook for all my Facebook heads that I am
Speaker 1: Big Mike, you feel me, and for the features to
Speaker 1: put them on put them shows. Man, y'all get at
Speaker 1: me man that put O G. Pick Mike just dropped
Speaker 1: us a message man concern to get interest and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get right back to you.