WEBVTT - EP 113: The Big Mike Episode 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.720 When I wrote, y'all all across the usc Compton Watts, 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.680 thank to l A. Come on the California the Valley. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.200 We represent that kind of county. So if you're keeping 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.840 it rail on your side of your town, you tune 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.120 into Gangster Chronicles Gangster Chronic Goals. We're gonna tell you 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.480 how we go. If I like my notes, will girl 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.720 like Pinocchio. We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:32.640 but the truth. Gangster Chronicals. This is not your average show. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.680 You're now tuned into the rail m c A, Bick 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:45.000 James and bixtails from the streets. Hello, Welcome to the 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.920 Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart Radio and 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.040 Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download the I 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.440 Heart Apple, subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles for my Apple users, 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.640 hit the purple mica on your front screen. Subscribe to 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:58.560 the gainst the Chronicles and leave a five star rate 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.920 in the comment. Were like, welcome everyone to another episode 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.080 against the Chronicles podcast. And I'm with my homeboy today 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.200 and you know, um, the homey Big James is out 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.520 there handling some business right now. Um, and he'd be 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.120 back on the next show. Of course, y'all keep my 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.240 poy keep my boy up in prayers. Ain't nothing wrong now, 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:21.280 so I want you all up this third. People always 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.600 expect should be wrong still, but we gotta let them know, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.479 you know, like I tell people, like I tell people, 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.000 we are ordinary. Motherfucker's right, even though people see us 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.680 we podcasting and then they are on records and all 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.320 this ship. We got normal responsibilities. You know, my nigga 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:40.039 James raising his grandson right now. You don't trying to 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.600 show him that right path. So when when when niggas 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:48.720 have personal ship, you know, it's just personal. He got 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.760 to go take care of some ship. You never know 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.120 what it is. But so don't expect that it's always 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.400 something negative when the nigga might be missing in action 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:01.280 for the day you get me day. Uh, we can 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.000 handle this, you can feel me. Hell yeah, and I'll 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.960 tell you what we got. One of my probably favorite 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.000 easily one of my top five of all time. My 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.640 nigga to Peter Man. I'm gonna calling the Peter Man 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:19.519 because that's Big Mike and the bad biggas don't don't 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.720 pick Mike. Niggas don't know my nigga. Three to rest 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.679 in Peach. You think is a sleep like a motherfucking 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:30.600 convicts was official like a referee with a whistle. Get me, motherfucker. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.640 I'm gonna tell you a story, big Mike. When I 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.000 first heard you, Man, what kind of receiver is you 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:44.720 talking on? Man? The head stick receiver like here, the 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.120 fuzz fun like the crap off pitch and this ship 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.040 with that receiver and ship with that plug out. And 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:55.440 I'm gonna tell at, Mike, keep talking on that fucking 0:02:55.520 --> 0:03:00.640 like he really is somebody's office conversate with. I was dripping. 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.400 I'm looking like I said, I had to look again. 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.120 I said, this nigg is on the first sing with 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:08.480 my nigga grundmmad that cord on there, nigga that went 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.279 from the catching the outside and around to the backyard. 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:18.840 Hold that motherfucker on the shoulders like this the same 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.079 made sure you've got that thousand foot gord when you 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:26.120 got that, so you got down all around the house 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:30.240 with that but like that outside. But man, the first 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.440 time I got hit to you, dog my boyfriend Tyler Texas. Man, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.720 we're playing football in the mess of state and we 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.920 got a whole bunch of us niggas on the team. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.120 Louisiana niggas. So they came with a whole bunch of 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.400 different music. We had the West Coach it they had 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.920 to down some ship. So he had that album the Convicts, man, 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.560 and y'all had a song on that motherfucker the Legal Aliens. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.880 I said, current, Damn boy, this is a ruthless as 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:57.880 niggas down motherfucking Texas board. So so we we were 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.360 gonna go back a little bit, big Mike MANAU don't know, 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.320 like whenever I say, you don't do a whole lot 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.680 of interviews, man, So thank you for coming on, bro exact, 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.360 thank you all for having me. For sure, we're gonna 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.160 go back now. Man. So the Conflicts was your first group. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.320 That was the first time you was out on wax, right, Yeah, 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.520 how did that come about? Because you're originally from Louisiana, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:23.680 New Orleans, right exactly? Yeah, So tell me how did 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.600 you get put it into the pholde man and the rap? 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:26.960 A lot of folk like, how did that happen? How 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.960 did that come about? Um? I was always doing music, 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.159 right because my father is a musician, you know what 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.400 I mean. So coming out of New Orleans, was always 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.479 doing some kind of music, right, So, um, I knew 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.599 I was going to express myself musically. I just didn't 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.400 then know and what farm it would be by instrumentation, 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.360 you know what I mean, singing or something like that. 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:52.839 But when I got my first win in hip hop, Um, 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.359 I think the song, yeah, the song was Planet Rocket. 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.039 When I heard that one, I say, now, that's what 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.560 I'm gonna do, even even even I didn't even started 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:07.760 crafting then, right, but I knew that the seed was planning. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:11.880 I knew that's how I wanted to express myself musically. Right. So, Um, 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.200 about the age of thirteen, man, I moved to Houston 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.240 with my grandparents from New Orleans, and um, you know, 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.200 to give me a better shot of better opportunity to 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.800 get me out the projects. And I would come back 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.080 to New Orleans for the summertime and things like that, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.039 and me and my dad would get off into the 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:32.360 studio and we have recorded a demo three songs. Um. 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.280 I went back to Houston started working for the summertime. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:40.160 Um at the Olive Gordon restaurant. Yeah, man, Tony Draper there, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.080 that was my nigger. We were working there as teenagers. Yeah, 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.880 he was younger. We're working at the Olive Garden together 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.480 and Um, he's taking me home one night because that 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.080 nigga had the will. So he taking me home one 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.880 night after closing, I popped in the UM, I popped 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.880 in my demo. He hit the demo. He asked it. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:03.600 He he asked it. He hoped the demo right and Um, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.920 so I let him hold the demo. He come back 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.120 to me UM the following week and he like misting. Man, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:11.800 I got a I got a homey man that worked 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:13.760 up at rapp a Lot. He's produced. His name is 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.480 John Beto. I let him hear the demo. He took 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.719 demo to ARM to UM to J Prince. We called 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.239 him to a J at the time. Took the timo 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.679 the Jay Prince. And they want to have a meeting 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.440 with us. You know what I mean because it was 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.720 me and Tony Draper who was putting the money together 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.960 behind meeting in the studio. You did so, um, and 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.760 that's how the initial meeting with UM with rapp a 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.679 Lot had came about. So they went at the meeting, 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.880 they presented me with the arm with the convict situation. Right, 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.240 Um he was. They told me they had a group 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.680 that just working on called the convict with mrs with 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.960 three too. There's another guy that's on rapp a lot. 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.760 He passed away as well. His name is Big Mellow, 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.480 but he was also a member of the group, but 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.839 he happened to be locked up at the time, right, 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.920 So Jay Prince, he was, man, we heard your music, 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.719 we liked with you and Tony doing right. Um, if 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:07.560 you know I'm saying you come on and help us 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.480 with this complict project, then we'll turned around and kept 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.560 y'all with what y'all trying to do. You feel me? 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:15.680 And I just saw it as an opportunity. I had 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.360 heard if I wrapped a lot, I knew what they 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.920 was doing and things like that. I was a fan 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.160 of some of the music they was putting out already, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.960 you know what I mean. So, um, I just saw 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.200 I saw it as an opportunity. So I was like, yeah, 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.120 you know what I'm saying, let's do it. And that's 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:34.520 how the complext opportunity had came about. Oh that's real dope. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.880 So so you and three two didn't really y'all, We 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.800 wasn't really familiar with each other. Then put you all 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.240 together because your chemistry was incredible. Yeah, once, but once 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.200 we got together though we had. We hit it off 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.440 like a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. He would 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.640 come out to my hood and just hanging out, you 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.040 know what I'm saying, And we behind it, and by 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.320 we behind it like a motherfucker. You know. That's that's 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.240 my brother. He wasn't just a group. We wasn't just 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.240 members of a group together, you know what I mean. 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.400 That's my brother. Man. We a lots of things together, 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.040 you know. And um, that's why the chemistry had took 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.320 off like it did. But um, yeah, shout out to 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:12.320 Mrry too, man, God Lexi, Man, he was awesome, awesome, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:16.520 NIKEL behind that pin um a lot of a lot 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.640 of characters, you know. Um yeah, and I missed the 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.120 guy a lot. Man. But yeah, yeah, we we had 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.360 we had missed chemistry to start with. Yeah, that's crazy, man. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.280 You know. So Big Miller was gonna be a part 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.440 of the convix. Yeah yeah, because he because he had 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.480 a classic album from the South too. He had he 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:38.959 had a classic album and she was hard. Yeah, he 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.400 had a very classic album. So so at this time, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.720 so y'all do the y'all do the convict situation, and 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.280 you would kind of made your way up to the 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:50.599 West coast at one point, didn't you yeah show that 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.040 about the Convix record. I think it was out maybe 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:58.360 I bout going on a year and UM UM by 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:02.360 way of UM Michael Harris, HARRYO and his wife at 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.960 the time, NDI Ga Harry UM that's when I got first. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:14.199 That's when exactly so they had They was like, UM, 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.960 you know we're starting the label with Dr Drey You 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.840 Feel Me and UM called death Flow Records, right, and 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.760 we think that to the dope the convicts on death Row, 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:28.440 so UM Death High. That whole engagement had came about 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.120 you Feel Me. So after they UM, you know, we 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.640 get the call from UM from Jake Prince and he 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.080 like listen, man, y'all in the l A. We really 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.280 didn't even much know what was happening at the time though, 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:44.400 and UM ship thinking a very mixtape. We was in 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.000 Los Angeles, you think what I'm saying, and UM got 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.240 him to the studio. They come picked us up. That's 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.360 the first time I met su met d O, c 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:59.640 Um Gray, UM, who else was there? Raided. They had 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:05.120 a big group called Image that was there. That's funny 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:10.200 because Image first song that they ever sung They sung 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.880 the hook on my album on Music to drive By 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:18.000 on the song called use a Pitch. Yes, that's Image 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:22.920 who's singing that right there? I forgot that Images. I 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.000 I was there at the beginning, man, I'm telling me. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.240 I was there to Let me tell you something, niggas 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.520 don't know. We came up with that death Row name 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.920 sitting down with Unknown and DJ Slip at a restaurant 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:41.840 one night. Yeah, let me tell you something. Ann was 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.640 getting ready to work on my record, Music to drive By. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.840 We was at We was at Harold and Bells one 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.240 night and then Nikker said, I just hooked up with 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.200 Sugar them and they still to start a new label. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.959 They're trying to come up with a name for me. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.600 Fielding Slip was sitting there with Unknown and we said 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:02.280 death Row and we named the d E F after 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.800 motherfucking Champ. Remember they had them letter motherfucking Coach at 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:15.079 the front. Yeah, black, Yeah, exactly. We started that ship 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.560 because we gonna be a part of that ship, Me 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.920 and kill at CMW. We were gonna be able. We 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.040 were gonna be like a group under Death Row as well. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.959 It's a lot of history behind that, but yeah, I 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.080 know DJ and d J Slip had got brought on 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.000 as producers because they were they was working on Your Time, 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:37.880 Big Ship. Yeah yeah, and so working on the comic 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.720 Ship and y'all law here just so you're a law 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.360 here on the West Coach, y'all just at the time, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.520 just making records because r b X always talks about that. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.199 He got a lot of love for yo. He's like 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:53.000 man Big Mike and Bick Mike, Bick Mike the RB Man. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.640 That's my dick Man. I love well Man, Yeah yeah, 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.480 you know, um, while we was staring man Ship Man, 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.640 it was a good time. Man, it was it was 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.200 a new definition of family to me, you know what 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.600 I'm saying. I really felt that California love, you know 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:11.320 what I mean? Um, Um, it helped me sharpen up 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.280 as an artist as well. My time there, my experience 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.160 that we didn't get an opportunity to release that album 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.600 on UM because I came back and I recorded the 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.560 Ghetto Boys album, right, So my treachers was to come 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.160 back I to record the Ghetto Boys album. But things 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.760 had kind of took off when I was on that 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.280 blower coaster back then. But um, shioging them, you know 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.680 what I'm saying. Man, they was true throughout throughout the 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.280 whole situation. Man, you know what I mean, I can't 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.760 even lie. Man. Shout out to Big Shig Man. You 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:41.640 know what I'm saying. He looked out for me in 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.839 a real way, looked out for my mama in a 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:45.559 real way. Man. You know what I'm saying, made a 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.160 move that helped changed our lives, you know what i mean. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.800 So I'm thankful for that as well. Um got a 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:55.440 cancer to be free, Snooth, Orangey and everybody. Matter of fact, 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.839 we all stayed together for a small period of time, 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.000 you know what I mean. That was awesome and ship 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.480 like that man and um, even though we didn't get 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.800 the chest weeks that album. Can hear the competence to 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:07.480 us all over that crime. You didn't hear what I'm saying, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.600 you know, so, UM, you know that that was That 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.400 was a good looking for us as well. Although I would, 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:17.640 um um rather have been performing on the record, you 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.280 know what I'm saying, But um it didn't come about, 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.160 you know what I mean. But um, experience and um, 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.840 everything that I gained from being down there, Man, it 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:28.360 was a plus. You know what I'm saying. They sent 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.600 me back to Houston on fire. It did. Y'all heard 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:33.199 the true when I did that ghettle for us that 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.520 when I dropped that something serious, A lot of that 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.080 material was formulated when I was on the West. Oh wow, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.160 you know what, you know, it's crazy, but you're seeing 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:45.880 that brow. The album does have a real West Coast 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:50.400 field to it has. It has a real strong West 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.719 Coast field to it, like when you came with the um, 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.560 you know, with the smoking and choking, like the motherfucker 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.760 Peter Man with the snooper, with the snoop when he 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.520 out of you off that thing. Yeah, album, it's it's 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.440 a classic album, Dog, And I want to go back 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.079 to something that you mentioned. We don't touch on that 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.120 Gettle Boys album Real quick Man, especially while eight Gone, 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.040 because ay, you want me to be all politically correct, 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.880 I can ask the questions I really want to ask 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.560 now on that Ghetto Boys album, Dog, what was going 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.960 on with you and scar Face? That sounds like a competition, 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:26.760 bro Uh, it wasn't like an over competition, right, um, 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:31.800 But you know, naturally, right, naturally, you got two dogs 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.920 on the squad. You feel me, they're gonna they're gonna 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.360 look for any motivation. You think what I'm saying, that's 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.520 available right to get busy. So that's that's all what's 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.960 going on. Man. If it was any kind of competition, 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:49.320 it was brotherly competition that we both wanted to get 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.480 the album out with that. That's how I looked at 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.440 because I'm gonna tell you, like this dog and this, 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.440 I don't want to hear you all in them comments 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.320 and sending me still you're tripping. But Big I was 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.520 getting up the scar face asked with some of them songs, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.320 some of them records. You was definitely giving the business. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.680 And that's no disrespect to Scarface and scar faced thing 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.880 on there. And he is one of the greatest of 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.160 all time. But but you gotta put Big Mike in 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.400 the same category because you was on That's what I 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.200 listening to lyrics, man, You was on there giving it 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:25.680 to him. Hey, man, I appreciate that analysis. I really, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.160 I really do shout out the star face man, because 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.200 the brother is a pillar when it comes to Southern 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:37.760 hip hop and hippop as a whole. It was honor 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.760 for me to get down on that project man. You know, um, 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.920 you know, I really learned a lot doing that process. Man, 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.200 shout out, which we feel man, they got UM blessed 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.200 your spirit man, you know what I mean. Awesome brother, 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.360 you know, UM we all had some upstick downs and 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.040 things like that. We're looking at the fact, looking back 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:01.200 at it now in hindsight, UM, everything had to happen. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:06.760 It had the UM play a part and our foundational history. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.320 You think what I'm saying. So, you know, I appreciate 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:14.640 the opportunity to get down and because that project with 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.720 them guys, you know what I'm saying. Unfortunately it didn't 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.240 branch off into other UM projects with all of us together, 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.520 you know, but it did UM help provide a platform 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.840 for me to be able to drop my solo career. 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.600 And I was good, Now you did so sure, so 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.760 let me ask you this. So you know, but you 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.560 being with Death Row after that that gett boys el 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.240 came out to sugg them get back at you like, hey, 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.360 what's up, big Mike. We're trying to get you over here. Yeah, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.680 you know, should me and shouldn't listen? Even when I 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.040 went back to because of the Ghettos project, right, it 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.360 was like I was still along Death Row. I was 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.720 still hand me because when we were called to get 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.440 a project gotter it was released. You know the first 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.160 crime of tour it was um, it was it was 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.520 it was death Row and the ghetti is you think 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.920 what I'm saying. And Ship I wrote on to a 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.720 bus with him. You think what I'm saying. So if 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.360 it was family, I still had my place out there 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.639 in l A. You think what I'm saying. She was 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.440 still looking out for me. I was still whenever they 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.080 we had UM we traveled for like music from Pitchons 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.239 and Ship. I was always with them, So you know, 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:25.280 like that didn't ever stop, right, Um, But I did 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.960 end up recording the solo project with Rapp a lot. 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.920 Deathro has started going to some changes at the time, right, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.840 and then me not being there physically in the midst, Right, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.639 I didn't really understand what was going on. So I 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.760 made a business decision at the time that was best 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.200 for myself and my family. What I thought. You think 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:53.120 what I'm saying, right, and um, and and I had. 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.080 I lived with my decision and I moved forward, you 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.240 know what I mean. But it was always love with 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:02.639 me and the artists. I broke with Raide Lou warranty 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:07.000 as corrupt you well, you know what I'm saying everybody 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.080 that was that was that was out there that you 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:10.760 know what I'm saying that I was able to become 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.160 friends with the things like that, Me and Mry too, 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.479 you know everybody, you know, we we was good. You know, 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:20.959 at times I do wish I would stay and seeing 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.199 what what what it came about from that, But you know, 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.720 we make our decisions that we have to live, when 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.600 we have to move forward. It's all a part of 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.439 our foundation history. As I said, exactly, Man, That's what 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.640 I believe. Guys always ever clean and sometimes we just 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.200 just just fell with that is you know what I mean. Yeah, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.080 usually when you following guys, con is always winds up 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.920 being the path of least resistance exactly exactly, even though 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.200 you can't see it at the time, right and when 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.280 you look back at it, if you're grown a little 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:53.360 bit and then you can see, you know what I mean. 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.480 So yeah, man, I'm I'm just gonna be good with that. 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.000 Guy has been amazing in my life. Man, Hey, shout 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.480 out to the father from the man because I can't 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.800 deny it. I'm so thankful bro to able to be 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.640 doing what I'm doing, still doing what I'm doing at 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.640 this age, I'm a father. I'm not old, but I'm 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.720 you know, I'm about to be fifty, but you know, 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.840 still doing what I'm doing. Defnit, the five years still 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.760 turned up for it, you know. So yeah, man, I'm thankful. 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.240 I ain't did nothing else professionally since the age of eighteen. 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.879 So you know that orders say a lot. So you know, 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.720 shout out thanks to the blood man. Really sure, that's 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.719 a that's a blessing, man, because you're doing love and 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.840 I want to go bank. I want to go back 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:36.159 a little bit. Man, did you and three to everything 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.080 about doing it when he was alive, when he was 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.320 here on the plant, Did y'all ever think about doing 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:46.080 another convict album? Man? We had once I had came 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.760 home from I wanted pepper to a little at the 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:55.480 time he look and um. When I got that home, 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:00.080 me and my brother got together. He was working on 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:03.240 some things. I had to get myself back. We actively 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.800 made into society, you feel me and try to you know, 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.119 get you know, established, were established my relationship with my 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:14.399 children and everything. Right. So after that was done, you 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.640 know what I'm saying, we got talking about the Compix 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.600 situation and we actually they had got together in the 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.160 studio or on a few songs, but we didn't get 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.879 an opportunity to, um delve into it really deeply, you 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.720 know what I mean? And um, I wish he had 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.680 a you know, before he had made his own time 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:37.280 in mind, you know what I'm saying. But um, you know, 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.920 it is what it is at this point. But if 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:43.399 we still have um a lot of unreleased material on 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.280 me too, and who knows, you know, I made slide 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.239 on a couple of joints just to release him as 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:51.439 scenes just for the the stylegio with not you know 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:52.960 what I mean. But I would hate to try to 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:59.840 embark on the full help without him press you feel me? Yeah, 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.520 I want to just put a bunch of songs done 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:06.080 together without us actually being together in two ago, you 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:12.399 know what I mean. But the Convict album is a classic. Um, 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.080 it's a lesson that we was there to do come 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.000 together for that when it because that when they put 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:22.760 that when out there in the world, you know, um, 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:24.960 you know. But yeah, I wish we would have had 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.680 more time to be able to getting to the studio 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:31.120 and do another compics record. Yeah for sure. Let's let's 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:33.199 talk about a little three too. A little bit because 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:37.920 it was a minute. Man. I always look at Houston, man, 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:42.399 I always look at the soft period right as like 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.119 our sister city. Kind of like because the Houston sound 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.840