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Speaker 1: and now podcast? How are we doing my people? Hopefully

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Speaker 1: everyone is doing well, having a great day and or

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Speaker 1: night or morning or whenever you're listening to this. I

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Speaker 1: just watched the Eagles and Walter Payton aka Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 1: win for the Birds who Detroit's having an incredible year

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Speaker 1: and they look awesome. The Eagles have started flipping a

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Speaker 1: So we will dive into the Birds. We will dive

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Speaker 1: into the Rams, who their offensive line which is getting cooked.

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Speaker 1: other stuff going on around the NFL. The Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: be ten and one. Kyle Shanahan, his season's over. But

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Speaker 1: Giants and Tommy Cutlet's what an embarrassment. That's I think

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Speaker 1: we have to acknowledge that the Giants are basically like

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Speaker 1: Part of it is the world we live in, and

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Speaker 1: I'm guilty of this. Our expectations are really high with

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Speaker 1: Not only are their clicking, but clearly their two hires

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Speaker 1: But what separates you in the NFL, just like in

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Speaker 1: And you look at this team as the season is gone.

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Speaker 1: And I think Howie is a good example, and honestly

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Speaker 1: and listen, I don't blame them. You had to move on.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Giants take a lot of shit, but

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Match Made in Heaven, you know it's funny

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Speaker 1: And I think right now, when you look at the

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Speaker 1: Three of them they've won. In eighteen they were twelve

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Speaker 1: were fourteen and three. And last year was a disaster

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Speaker 1: at a eleven and six, and obviously they still won

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And this season everyone's had an opinion,

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Speaker 1: what's up with the Chiefs? Is this their downfall? What

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Speaker 1: are they doing? They're ten and one? And Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: do that. You know, the number one goal if you're

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Speaker 1: the GM, it's just a win games. Doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if people thought your free agents were good.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter our opinions on you over under in

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Speaker 1: training camp. When we're in middle of November, what's your record?

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Speaker 1: And they go, we're ten and one. We've played eleven

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Speaker 1: games and we've lost one of them. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: they've come close here and they could this game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't. And unlike a lot of these teams,

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Speaker 1: check our fucking resume and listen. Do I think the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are gonna win the Super Bowl? Actually don't. I

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Speaker 1: would not bet on them. Just the law of averages.

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Speaker 1: If you play in all these crazy games, you're bound

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Speaker 1: a lot of the Patriots dynasty, and they lost some years. Hell,

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Speaker 1: they lost in the second round some years. I vividly

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Speaker 1: remember when Bart Scott and Rex Ryan beat him, and

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Speaker 1: because it was. But sometimes it happens you don't win.

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Speaker 1: It's why no team's ever won three straight Super Bowls. Hell,

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Speaker 1: it's really rare for a team to win back to back.

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Speaker 1: Chiefs just did it for the first time since the

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Speaker 1: Patriots in the early two thousands. But can't we just acknowledge,

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Speaker 1: like this run that they're on, it's kind of historic,

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Speaker 1: and you do stuff like this even if you lose

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Speaker 1: in the conference championship this year to the Bills, Let's

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Speaker 1: say like that's just adding more pelse to the wall

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Speaker 1: of this incredible dynasty that they're on. So one, if

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Speaker 1: you're a Chiefs fan, it doesn't get any better than this.

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Speaker 1: This is as good as it gets. And also, like

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Speaker 1: barely squeaked by beating the Panthers, you get every team's

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Speaker 1: their super Bowl. And on the road after a big

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Speaker 1: game in Buffalo. One, the Chiefs were up twenty seven

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Speaker 1: they had to come storman back. They were in full control.

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Speaker 1: Bryce made some places, they tied the game, got a

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Speaker 1: two point conversion. It was impressive, and the Chiefs went

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Speaker 1: right down the field. Not once, not once in my mind,

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Speaker 1: did I think they're gonna lose. Not once in my

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Speaker 1: mind when they got it back with enough time on

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Speaker 1: the clock that I think they're not gonna get in

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Speaker 1: super Bowl range. It's a very rare group of guys

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Speaker 1: that you go, they're gonna figure this out. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: make it happen. It's like games on the line and

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Speaker 1: you're down two and Steph shooting at three, you think

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Speaker 1: it's going in. When I was a kid and Tiger

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Speaker 1: to win. That's how I think about the Chiefs. Is

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Speaker 1: it the prettiest thing? No, it's not. But what the

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Speaker 1: run that they're on twenty eighteen to present. There was

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00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:35,440
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00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:42,920
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Speaker 1: A lot of people when I buried Miami a couple

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Speaker 1: still have a really good chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I think they're a loss this Thursday. Way from it

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Speaker 1: basically being over. It could be like Denver is a

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00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,720
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Speaker 1: Like it's just a mathematical equation here. You'd have five wins,

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Speaker 1: they'd have eight, and I'm just betting on them getting

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Speaker 1: to ten, especially when I look at their schedule and

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Speaker 1: I'm betting against you doing it. And Denver, who's over

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Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna be a massive upset if they

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Speaker 1: don't play a playoff game. Do I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: win a playoff game? Probably not. It's difficult. But anytime

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Speaker 1: your defense is that good and your quarterback is clearly

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Speaker 1: playing with a lot of confidence, they're gonna have a chance.

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned this to Coward earlier tonight. You know

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Speaker 1: what we can say about the Russell Wilson Sean Payton divorce.

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Speaker 1: Their personalities were never meant for each other. One they

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Speaker 1: I think it's I don't even think it's fake anymore.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's who he is. I think he's

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Speaker 1: type person that I could only be around so much.

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Speaker 1: But when you're the coordinator, slash play caller, head coach,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna spend a lot of time around that guy.

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Speaker 1: And then his skill set didn't mesh up with what

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton wants in a quarterback. It was never gonna work.

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Speaker 1: He did not want to coach him, but he could

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Speaker 1: and he did, and he was right to do it

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Speaker 1: because I don't think the Broncos would be as good

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Speaker 1: just like Russell Wilson got granted going to Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 1: Tomlin can just deal with Russell's you know, daily optimism,

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Speaker 1: but mainly like his skill set fits the Steelers can

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Speaker 1: Speaking of win win win the NFC North, you know

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's I thought the division was gonna be

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Speaker 1: right there with the forty nine ers last year, they

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Speaker 1: think I saw today the greatest season in the history

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Speaker 1: is pretty simple. Their team was never that good. What

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Speaker 1: that much talent. Now you can say the quarterback has regressed, obviously.

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Speaker 1: If you watch Caleb the day, he looked dramatically better

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Speaker 1: good plays with his legs and still looks like a

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Speaker 1: But I do think nine and eight would feel like

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00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: what your team represents. And everyone is going to be

641
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: all over Kingsbury and Colin was asking me about it.

642
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: I see everyone writing about it on social I've been

643
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: very critical of Kingsbury over the years. His offense is

644
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: not my style, like fundamentally wouldn't be my type. Higher

645
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: if I was an owner of a GM always heard

646
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: he's a great guy, son of a marine. Heard he's

647
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: in the fucking facility like four point thirty. Like he's

648
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: not like some pretty boy, lazy guy. I mean, technically

649
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: he's a pretty boy, but he's not. That's not the

650
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: way he operates and lives his coaching career. Dude to

651
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: grinder offensively just comes from you know, the Mike Leech tree,

652
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: which is cool, but it's not what I would want

653
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'm not putting this on him. Like

654
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: their team just isn't that good. They just don't have

655
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: that much firepower. They've hit some freak plays, obviously the

656
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: Hail Mary and even today against Terry McLaurin, you go, God,

657
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: why didn't Dallas kick there? You know, how do they

658
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: not beat Dallas's ass? I'm watching today, Like Dallas got

659
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 1: some good players too. I don't think the gap between

660
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: those two teams, honestly, is that crazy wide. And the

661
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: other thing is like everyone's writing Mike McCarthy off, Like, listen,

662
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: this is not the NBA. You don't just punt on

663
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: the season. You still try. Mike McCarthy's won a lot

664
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: of game for a long time, kind of knows what

665
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: he's doing. And listen, Mike Zimmers had a rough year.

666
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Check his resume. It's not bad either, Like these divisional

667
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: games are just difficult. The Houston Texans today lost to

668
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: the Titans. I looked at the box score of that game.

669
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: Will Levis was sacked eight times and pick six and

670
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: you lost. If you told me before the game that

671
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: Will Levis would be sacked eight times and throw a

672
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: pick six, what the final score would be, I would

673
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: say Texans forty, Titans twelve. So to lose that game.

674
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: But it just even the Broncos in the Raider game

675
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: was relatively close. These divisional games in November and December

676
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: are just tightly contested. These teams are very, very comfortable

677
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: against each other. Not only are you used to playing

678
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: the individual opponent. Like if I'm the left tackle, I

679
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: know the pass rusher, I'm the wide receiver, I know

680
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: the corner. You just see them on film all the time.

681
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: Because when you're playing your other divisional opponents, what games

682
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: do you think you study? You just probably see I

683
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: would say I don't know two to three hundred percent

684
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: more of that opponent. If you're on a team for

685
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: three or four years, then you do have every other

686
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: team in the league. Once the season starts, you're just

687
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: constantly seeing those players, so there's a comfortability also going

688
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: to the stadium away game, like Dallas has been going there.

689
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: If you're Ceedee Lamb, if you're Micah Parsons, if you're

690
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush. And that's what I respect about Dallas because

691
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, the forty nine ers got their ass kick

692
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: today against the Backers, and this is obviously the season

693
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: from hell. And this is what I said about the Chiefs.

694
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, wow, this Niners just ran out of gas.

695
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: They just had enough. Well, why would the Chiefs just

696
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: runt of gas? They've been going to conference championship games

697
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: since twenty and eighteen when they lost to Brady and Belichick.

698
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: Remember those guys. Tom Brady's now been retired for two

699
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: years and working in TV after he went to Tampa

700
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: for three. So why aren't they running of gas? They're

701
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: ten and one. The Niners just got old. Chiefs aren't young,

702
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: And like, I just think it's easy to make excuse.

703
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: Maybe invested the wrong players, spent a lot of money

704
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: on Deebo Samuel, he's been terrible. Christian McCaffrey isn't even

705
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: the best running back on the team right now. Obviously

706
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: they've had a million injuries. But Chiefs have had injuries,

707
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: they find a way, they figure it out. I just

708
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: the excuses are like this notion that they're just running

709
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: out of gas because they've been in the playoffs. Like

710
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. The Chiefs been fucking making runs for

711
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: a lot longer than the forty nine ers have, And

712
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty they didn't take off the season. They

713
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: were actually in the Super Bowl that year where the

714
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: Niners didn't sniff the playoffs. Where do I want to

715
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 1: go now the Giants? There's so many different angles here.

716
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: I saw Albert Breers say no one will ever do

717
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: off season hard knocks again. I don't know if it's

718
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: like in season hard knocks where you don't really have

719
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: a choice, Like if you fall into the category, they

720
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: can give it to you and you can't really get

721
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: out of it. Obviously, if you make the playoffs, you

722
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: can't avoid it. But I think when you look at

723
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: the Giants, their season couldn't be going any worse. And

724
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: this week it felt like it jumped the shark a

725
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, the Jets. When you get weird

726
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: stories coming out of New York, like that's been happening

727
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: for a long time. Today it was like, Aaron Rodgers

728
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: won't let them take an MRI. Well, yeah, he doesn't

729
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: trust anyone in that building. That building is just whack

730
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: job Central, or at least it had been. I got

731
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: Phil Savage is in control. Now I think you'll get

732
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: the train back on the tracks. But like, clearly it's

733
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: just a weird environment there. People start getting fired, you

734
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: don't know who to trust. Like I actually kind of

735
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: understand it now, Aaron signed up for that. But all

736
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: these stories coming out of New York, it's kind of

737
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: easy to be like I on had a Joe Douglas leaked,

738
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: this Woody leaked. This is getting weird. The giants are

739
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, we're betching Daniel Jones, not that weird.

740
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: Guys to get paid a lot of money who underachieve

741
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: get benched constantly. We saw Derek Carr get that treatment.

742
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: We saw Russell Wilson, who's, you know, one of the

743
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: greatest players in the history of his former franchise, get

744
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: benched a year and a half into Denver. So Daniel

745
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: Jones getting benched wasn't that weird. It was a bad contract.

746
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: But then when they went to Tommy Cutlets over drew

747
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: Locke after they had paid him five million dollars to

748
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: be the backup. You started going, what are we doing here?

749
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: This is not nineteen ninety two or nineteen eighty six

750
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: selling tickets and positive vibes and good stories on the

751
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: back of the post. Who gives a shit? You're guaranteed

752
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: four hundred million dollars in twenty twenty five from the

753
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: television deal. You are gonna be a positive when it

754
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: comes to profit no matter what. And a couple of

755
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: touchdowns for from some Italian kid that played at Syracuse

756
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: that had a couple moments last year that honestly cost

757
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: you Jayden Daniels and Drake May is not going to

758
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: mean shit in the grand scheme of things. But why

759
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: would you start them Other than that is John Morris

760
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: still obsessed with what they're saying about him on WFN

761
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: and what is being written about him in the newspapers. Hey, John,

762
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: I would say the majority of your audience under fifty

763
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: years old that follows your football team hasn't picked up

764
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: one of those papers in years. Ultimately, a conversation from

765
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: a media guy in New York because they are Italian

766
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: and Tommy Cutliss throws a touchdown isn't going to mean

767
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: a goddamn thing. But there's no other way to justify

768
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: or to rationalize why they would start him over Drew Locke,

769
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: if you went he just wanted to get some positive

770
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: pub They were hoping he would have some moments and

771
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: people would like it like they did last year, And that,

772
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: to me is something the Jets would have done and

773
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: forever there was a clear line between the Giants and

774
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: the Jets. And listen when I worked for the Giant

775
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: or when I worked for the Eagles and we played

776
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: the Giants. When you would play them, it was like,

777
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: this is just a high level operation. The way the

778
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: team looked, I remember them being huge. Their defensive line

779
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: was massive, their offensive line was just a bunch of badasses. Obviously,

780
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: they had Eli, Tom Coughlin, Jared Reese was a GM.

781
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: There was just an impressive operation. And the moment Tom

782
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: Coughlin got fired, and obviously I'm not saying that they

783
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 1: shouldn't have fired him, it was time. They have kind

784
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: of become the Jets, and you see these things happen,

785
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: and you go, does John Mara get a little bit

786
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: of a pass because he has perfectly fitted pants, and

787
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: he's kind of tall and skinny, and he kind of

788
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: looks like a guy that easily could have been a

789
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: senator from New York in Woody Johnson, because they were

790
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: both born into this. It's not like either of them

791
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: or self made men. But wood he feels a little

792
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: bit more like a wild card and a guy that like, yeah,

793
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: he's just all over the map. And every story that

794
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: comes about out about him that has him meeting with

795
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: his coordinators and you know, his general manager and there's

796
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: seven people lined up next to him that you've never

797
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: heard of them. They're like, yeah, that's that's Woody's cronies.

798
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: And it's just like just John Morrow walking around the organization.

799
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: And listen, you saw it in Hard Knocks. Seems like

800
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: a gnuice guy, seems like a guy doesn't seem as

801
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: crazy as Woody Johnson flying in on a helicopter to

802
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: fire Joe Douglas, as Jay Glazer reported, Yet the actions

803
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: in this organization feel too parallel the Jets. And whenever

804
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: I hear these older people talk about like, you know,

805
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: the league's gonna get involved, the League's gonna do this.

806
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: They want the Jets and the Giants to win. The

807
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: league is better when the Raiders are good. I got

808
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: news for you. It's all bullshit. The league has never

809
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: had more people watching, and the Giants haven't been good

810
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: now in almost a decade. The league is better when

811
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: the Raiders are relevant. That's bullshit because for twenty plus

812
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: years of the Internet age, the NFL has never made

813
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: more money and the Raiders have played in like one

814
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: important game over that entire period of time. So if

815
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: you suck now and you're a big market, a small market,

816
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: an any market, you just don't matter. But I never

817
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: in a million years would have thought the Giants would

818
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: stoop to the level of Tommy Cutlet's over Drew Locke.

819
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,479
Speaker 1: Why because he's from the area and people like him. Well,

820
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: is he the best quarterback? And when you saw all

821
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: these players on the team being mad over Daniel Jones,

822
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: I actually think it represented more that we're just a

823
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: joke now because Drew Locke, who listen, has played in

824
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: the league for a while and I'm not acting like

825
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: he's Joe Montana, but you paid them five million dollars

826
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: to be the backup and he literally bend the backup

827
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: all season long. So are we all just part of

828
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: the circus. Now, is that what this is? And that's

829
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: where you get performances like today where the teams just like,

830
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: fuck it, we don't care. This is so stupid. And

831
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: I think there's a level of that with the Jets.

832
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: All I hear and all I see is like, Sauce Gardener,

833
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: what happened to Sauce Gardener? Well, you do realize that

834
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: most players, just like most human beings, aren't leaders. They're

835
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: not Moses part in the sea with everyone fallowing them.

836
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: They're not Peyton Manning walking into practice like motherfuckers follow

837
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: my lead. Most of us follow. Successful people are following,

838
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: and Sauce looks around, like, who do I follow? Well,

839
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: there's no one, So what happens? He falls off a cliff?

840
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: And you see the Giants today like everyone's kind of

841
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: looking around, what do we do? And no one has

842
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: any answers. It's pretty sad. Sometimes you lose, like Commanders today,

843
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: they lost, They got beat. Turbot had a great play,

844
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush made some plays. Parsons was making the plays

845
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: like it's the NFL. It's difficult. If the Chiefs had

846
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: lost today, it would have been a big headline. But

847
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: it's like, yes, the NFL, if the Panthers win four

848
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: or five games, like they're gonna beat a good team

849
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: or two it was at home, you know, in Carolina, Like,

850
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: it's not that crazy, it's it's football. It's difficult. If

851
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: you do not come to play, you will lose. If

852
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: you're a step slice out with the forty nine ers,

853
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: they missed ten tackles in the first quarter, so you're

854
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: just a little little hesitant and all of a sudden

855
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: it's snowballs and you start getting worked. But what's going

856
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: on with the Giants right now? I don't It's pretty embarrassing, honestly.

857
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: It's just a lover of football as a lover of

858
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: like the NFL and what certain things stand for. That's

859
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: not the team that when I lived in the Northeast,

860
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: did I have any recollection of being like that, Like

861
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: Tommy Cutlet's like, what the fuck are we doing? If

862
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: I was a Giants fan, I would be furious, And

863
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: this is there's a difference, Like, I don't know. It's

864
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: not about Daniel Jones. It's about what is going on

865
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: right now with our franchise and who can help us?

866
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: Because John you fired Tom Coughlin, and ever since then,

867
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: it's been the same shit year after year after year,

868
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: and all I hear, ever hear anyone, is like, well't

869
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: Jet's problems starts with Woody? Well, don't we have to say? Then?

870
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: The Giants problem starts with John moraw A couple other

871
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: quick things. Dion has had a remarkable season. He got

872
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: worked by Kansas, and Kansas like Florida are like two

873
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: of the hottest teams in the in the college football.

874
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: You know, the crazy thing is if Arizona State beats

875
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: Arizona this week, which they should easily, the Deon Sanders

876
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: won't even be the coach of the year in his

877
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: own conference. Kenny Dillingham went to Arizona State, which was

878
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: equally as shitty a couple of years ago as Colorado

879
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: and unlike Prime, and I'm not blaming Prime. His son's

880
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: a top pick in the NFL. His guy Travis Hunter

881
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: might be the second pick in the NFL draft. Like

882
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: he has two of, if not the two best players

883
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: in college football on his team. Kenny Dillingham's star offensive

884
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: player is like a white running back from sax State

885
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: who's actually pretty good, but like it ain't the same

886
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be crazy when it happens, because a

887
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna be like, wait, what if

888
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: they win next week in Colorado does not make it

889
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: to the Big Twelve championship, Kenny Dillingham is going to

890
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 1: be the coach of the year in the Big Twelve,

891
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: not Deon Sanders. So I wouldn't have seen that coming.

892
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: Arizona State and Dion's done a great job this year.

893
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: If they win this last week and are nine to three, remarkable.

894
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: But a lot of people, even if you didn't think

895
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: they'd be this thought that, you know, be six seven wins.

896
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: I probably thought five or six. Everybody. Everybody picked Arizona

897
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: State to be dead last in the Big Twelve. And

898
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: this is why with the transfer portal, it is so

899
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: hard to figure out college football. I was thinking about

900
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: this watching some of these you know, depending on what

901
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: game you were watching. It was senior day. So on

902
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: senior Day, a lot of the coaches, right before the

903
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: game starts, stand out there and basically hug and the

904
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: player comes up the senior with his family, with his girlfriend,

905
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: with his brothers and sisters. It's a cool moment, and

906
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, how many dudes now go up

907
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,479
Speaker 1: to their coach and like they just met him six

908
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: months ago. They barely know the guy. Where in the

909
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: history of college football, if you are a senior at

910
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: a program, or even like Quinn, you wers of Texas

911
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: who participated in a senior day because he's going to

912
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: go to the pros, you've been in that program at

913
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: minimum for several years. So you're watching all these college

914
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: programs all over Saturday lose. The turnover in these programs

915
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: is it's unprecedented, It's never happened. So to just be

916
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: shocked when some of these ranked teams lose, I think

917
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: it's a little disingenuous the way we talk about it.

918
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: This is not twenty fourteen. So when so and so

919
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: team Ole Miss loses to Florida, they haven't had the

920
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: same core for four straight years. When whatever team loses

921
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: in a big upset, like they have a lot of

922
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: new players. And that's not just freshmen, that's guys that

923
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: were literally all over the country. So I actually think

924
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: what we just wentness on Saturday night with Alabama losing

925
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: or Miss losing, uh Texas A and m losing obviously

926
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: Indiana getting worked, which is a separate conversation from this

927
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: is going to be something we need to get used to.

928
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: And the other thing is Indiana got worked. Indiana in

929
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: the second half got absolutely curb stomped like that. That

930
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: was JV vers varsity. That was not a fair fight. Now,

931
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: if these other teams hadn't lost, I was one hundred

932
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: percent fine with them missing the playoffs. Now they're gonna

933
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: get in because they're only gonna have one loss. But

934
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: in college football, we do have to acknowledge some teams

935
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: getting to ten or eleven wins their path is dramatically

936
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: easier than the other. I'm not from the South. I

937
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: don't care about SEC football like in terms of deep

938
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: in my soul, I have a bias for them. I

939
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: just watch the sport, and I've been watching college football

940
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: religiously and really for a living now for a long time,

941
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: for fifteen plus years. And if you have eyes and

942
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: you spend any time on Saturdays in the fall, you

943
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: will see that the way better players, especially on defense,

944
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: play in the SEC, and the tougher road environments are

945
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: in the SEC. So when I see Alabama lose at

946
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: Oklahoma or a and M lose at Auburn, their records

947
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: don't mean that much to me because I watch the

948
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: players that those programs have on defense, I go, God,

949
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: those look like a bunch of NFL guys. Their speed

950
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: is a lot faster than when I watch Wisconsin or

951
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 1: Indiana or Rutgers or Maryland. It looks like a different sport.

952
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: And listen, if it wasn't for Oregon being part of

953
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 1: the package, the Big Ten would be an embarrassment this year. Obviously,

954
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: Ohio State's could they're good. Every year we saw Penn State.

955
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: They can't win a big game to save their life,

956
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: and honestly, they should have lost to Minnesota. So these

957
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: people are arguing, and I see Danny Kanell and Joel

958
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: Klatt the SEC is the best conference, and honestly, I

959
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: don't even think it's that close. I think there's a

960
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: pretty wide gap. And obviously, if you're determining the twelve

961
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: teams that are gonna make the playoffs, your record and

962
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: whether you won or lost the game matters. But there

963
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: are a lot of teams with six or seven wins

964
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: in the Southeastern Conference that if you flip conferences, I

965
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: think would have a way better record. If you put

966
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: Indiana this year in the sec. I think, best case

967
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: they win seven games. That I was blown away. I

968
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: was rooting for him. I wanted to see them have

969
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: success against Ohio State. And after that first drive it

970
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: was kind of a joke, and once the punter missed

971
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: that snap, it was on like Donkey Kong, and that

972
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: second half looked like Ohio State. What they do to

973
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: all the shitty programs in the Big Ten, which this

974
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: year happens to be a large percentage of them. Have

975
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: a good night, have a good day whenever you're watching this,

976
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: and we'll see you tomorrow. The volume