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Speaker 1: This is Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, trumping

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Speaker 1: wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state of

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Speaker 1: your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Now your host new he scrugs, it is time for

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Speaker 3: the media match as we get ready for the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: Eagles coming up on Sunday at Jerry World. Short week

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Speaker 3: for the Cowboys. You play Monday night in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 3: dominant victory there, but they get ready for the World

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Speaker 3: champions and then after that it's four days until the

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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs come to Jerry World for Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 3: So it's not the three games and toy it's really

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Speaker 3: eleven because this thing is a shorter one.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: So we got John Jock Tael, the author and former

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Speaker 3: beat writer for the Cowboys, joining us here. Bobby Belt

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Speaker 3: one oh five three, the fan he covers the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: for them, and I'm newly scruggs. So John, this stretch

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Speaker 3: is a tough one. But at the same time, if

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys are going to make a move, they need

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Speaker 3: to get these two games.

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Speaker 4: And I'll say this gone say gone, say what you're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Say, gettable because you have faced the Eagles before you,

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Speaker 3: your run defense is better, and Kansas City and Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: So I got sports teams from last year. All right,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, now here's it. Go ahead, poo poop.

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Speaker 5: I'm not finning poopoo. You know what I said.

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm not gonna steal your line, but if you want,

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Speaker 4: I'm just Bobby.

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Speaker 3: I'll appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: If you want to put that tab on your tongue

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Speaker 4: and take a trip, here's how you can do it.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 4: I'm not doing it, but lots of folks out there

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Speaker 4: in podcast land want to do it. And the way

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Speaker 4: you can take that trip is you could say, if

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys are no longer the worst defense in the league,

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Speaker 4: but the twenty fourth worst defense in the league.

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Speaker 3: If you want to go there.

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Speaker 4: The beauty of it is your offense has been good

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Speaker 4: almost all year. Philadelphia's offensively challenged, Kansas City is offensively challenged,

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Speaker 4: Detroit is offensively challenged. If you can just be bad

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Speaker 4: and not terrible on defense, you have a chance. If

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Speaker 4: you want to put that tab on your tongue. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so and ride with the offense. Now, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 4: with somebody else wants to it.

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Speaker 3: You like injected in your veins. That's problem with you.

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Speaker 3: So Bobby, Well, somebody once told me, I don't if

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Speaker 3: you ever heard of sports is fluid. M Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: What's true today?

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Speaker 3: May not you beat you an offrom now.

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Speaker 5: So so that's that's it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, while while Gerald Wayne Jones went on one

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Speaker 3: O five three the Fan to say that you know

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Speaker 3: what the Cavalry's coming. Reinforcements are coming.

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Speaker 5: It's the Raiders. It's the Raiders. But what you.

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Speaker 3: Saw and Philadelphi is a much better Philadelphia is here.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders are down there, the Raiders, but it's better

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Speaker 3: than what we have seen. And that same defense, which

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Speaker 3: has been bad.

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Speaker 4: Now it's been terrible. Okay, they're trying to get to bed. Yeah, tragic,

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Speaker 4: it's been. It's been tragic. Yeah, had him in position

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Speaker 4: to win Philadelphia. The offense was the one who needed

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Speaker 4: the good part. That doesn't even count. Man, that but

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Speaker 4: that team don't even exist. Eistn't talk about that game.

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Speaker 3: That defense, Okay, I'm just saying that defense is now better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the offense is worse, which is why you

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Speaker 4: have a chance. Now, you know, I think they'd be

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Speaker 4: lucky to win one of these three, but there are

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Speaker 4: ways they can win all three, don't you think about it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, I told you right after the quinn In trade,

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Speaker 7: I said my call was the rest away. They were

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Speaker 7: going to go six and two? Is what I thought?

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Speaker 7: You said that six and two?

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Speaker 3: What kind of hundreds?

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Speaker 6: Because here's here's the thing. Here's how you're looking at them.

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Speaker 7: The way you look at it, I think that basically

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Speaker 7: you just need to fight for a split between Philly,

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Speaker 7: Kansas City, Detroit and then maybe the Chargers. But the

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Speaker 7: NFL this past weekend. Excuse Yeah, you got Washington, you

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Speaker 7: got the Giants, You've got Minnesota in there. I think

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Speaker 7: you match up well with Minnesota. You just took care

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Speaker 7: of the Raiders. And yeah, it's the Raiders. But the

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Speaker 7: standard or the way it should be measured or looked

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Speaker 7: at the way I've talked about it this week is yeah,

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Speaker 7: but there are other teams that you think are better

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Speaker 7: Not that you are all of a sudden some world beaters,

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Speaker 7: but you can only play who you play, and they've

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Speaker 7: not been able to beat down teams like that.

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Speaker 3: You've been losing Arizona, so you can beat the Raiders

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Speaker 3: dog going a hey, good good. So I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: you know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 7: When Dak turned over that ball when he had that

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Speaker 7: fumble three weeks ago, the Raiders are probably scoring a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: They're not kicking a field goal there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I could see that, and so's Those are the

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Speaker 7: kind of differences, That's what you mean. The whole reason

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Speaker 7: with Quinn and Logan, the offense had been good enough

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Speaker 7: that it was like if you can add them and

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Speaker 7: more than that, Now you've added Overshown and as Irak,

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Speaker 7: who's starting to play better, and you've brought Hooker back,

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Speaker 7: and Hooker made a big difference in this game the

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Speaker 7: other day. Is that you've changed all three level the defense,

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Speaker 7: and all you need is you need one to two

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Speaker 7: extra stops a game.

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Speaker 3: Then you were get Arson was Carson. Carson was solid,

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Speaker 3: he was effective in the game. You saw Revel come

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Speaker 3: and put some plays out there. So look, we're you know,

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Speaker 3: Bland almost had an interception, So I'm i understand it.

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Speaker 5: I get it all day long.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 5: It's the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: They're not a good organization, but the Arizona Cardinals aren't

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Speaker 3: any good either.

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Speaker 5: They came in your house and just took you apart apart.

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Speaker 4: You know what Bobby's saying is right, instead of giving

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Speaker 4: up a fifty five percent of the scoring drives, can

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Speaker 4: you give up forty five percent?

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Speaker 7: That's literally margins enough for you to win three of

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Speaker 7: your games this day.

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Speaker 5: It's got to being thirty second and third down version.

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Speaker 5: If you can go yeah, like.

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Speaker 3: You said, twenty five, yeah, and twenty five. I mean

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Speaker 3: you go from being an F student to a D. Hey,

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Speaker 3: you know if you're a D student, you know they

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Speaker 7: That work a little bit if you make those changes.

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Speaker 7: If you get one to two extra stops a game,

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Speaker 7: you end up beating Green Bay, Yes, you end up

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Speaker 7: beating Carolina. You maybe end up beating Philadelphia and the opener.

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Speaker 7: I mean, like that's the kind of margins that we're

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Speaker 7: talking about, where the offense has been good enough, you

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Speaker 7: just needed like help me a little just give me

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Speaker 7: a little bit of help, and there's a little bone. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: And then that's the thing I think They've got a

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Speaker 7: at least a little bit of help. Not world beaters,

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Speaker 7: but just don't be thirty second.

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Speaker 3: Right, Quinn Williams is the real deal. He is an

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Speaker 3: elite player.

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Speaker 4: But did you think he would.

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Speaker 3: No, But it's just I've watched him back at Alabama

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Speaker 3: just but just to see what I think all of

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Speaker 5: What what you hope a tray can do.

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Speaker 3: Okay, like, hey, this is if you know this guy

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Speaker 3: comes into what you hope he could do. Like like Nico,

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Speaker 3: Nico had this vision of Anthony Davis and for you know,

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Speaker 6: And then yeah, let's not say like Nico, but.

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Speaker 7: I'm saying then Quinn Williams has played more than Anthony

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Speaker 7: Davis has already, Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but then it all went And so for Quinn Williams, man,

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Speaker 3: the guy did everything Jerry. He saw that little picture

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Speaker 3: of you saw a photo of Jerry and then he's

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Speaker 3: that guy. And to see the doubles and then to

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Speaker 3: see where Kenny this is the best version of Kenny Clark.

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Speaker 3: When Jerry tried to sell us as Kenny Clark. He

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Speaker 3: He ain't that, but to see Kenny Clark playing next

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Speaker 3: to him, now you're seeing, Hey, man, you leak this

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Speaker 3: dude one on one is truble, and now you know,

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Speaker 3: a double Quinn.

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Speaker 4: To me, it's really, really, it's not. It's a different position.

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Speaker 4: It's not that much different than Michael Micah makes everybody

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Speaker 4: else better because of his skill set. So you replaced him,

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Speaker 4: you traded him, but then you didn't add nothing for

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Speaker 4: eight weeks. Then you added somebody who's liked that at

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Speaker 4: a different position, and so guess what, all the guys

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Speaker 3: Dude is a difference. Man, tell me if I'm wrong, Bobby.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that what Jerry wanted originally and then had to

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Speaker 3: pivot to the Packers wanted Quinn Williams.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, Quentnin and obviously League like, given the context

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Speaker 7: of us being on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, there were

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Speaker 7: others I'm sure that that we would know about that

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Speaker 7: we wouldn't be able to say. But now that Quinn

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Speaker 7: Williams is here, Yeah, they wanted Quinn and they were

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Speaker 7: So they ended up getting who they Yeah, they ended

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Speaker 7: up getting who they wanted and gained some space in

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Speaker 7: the second you know, from the second of the first round.

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Speaker 6: Basically they flipped positions and this is where it's at.

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Speaker 6: And the only thing is you didn't have them here

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Speaker 6: for nine weeks. That's what you wasted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but now they're now.

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Speaker 4: This the reason I think you can you can be

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Speaker 4: optimistic about the defense is now you went from just

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Speaker 4: they look good on the defensive line now because you got.

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Speaker 3: To three tackles rotate. We ain't even talking about Salomons.

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Speaker 4: Had a pretty solid year for what you expected out

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Speaker 4: of him, as Rokuo was really coming on and so

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Speaker 4: you know, all of a sudden, they look they got

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Speaker 4: some guys who can make some plays on defense. You

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Speaker 4: saw a little bit of pass rush on some third

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Speaker 4: Houston got to jump in on.

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Speaker 7: Some Yes, Houston, that's one of the changes. Shotting mad

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Speaker 7: at the if you want to talk about when he

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Speaker 7: said they were going to make changes at the buye.

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Speaker 7: They played James Houston way more than they had all year.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, which is what they should have done.

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Speaker 3: But so when I when I think about just just

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Speaker 3: what you said here naming the moves Solomon Thomas in

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Speaker 3: the way this rotation is, it's perfect. This is what

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Speaker 4: You're limiting his what wonderful game. Du Yeah, he gonna

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Speaker 4: be a tear, you know.

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Speaker 5: So he comes out there, he's like your number four.

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Speaker 5: You're young. But back when Jim Jeff Cooat was here

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Speaker 5: when they winning Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Thank you there, but just gonna say John didn't seventy

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Speaker 3: seven or seventy seventy eight, seventy eight, John done seventy eight.

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Speaker 7: Got the rotation because Eberfluce, like Marinelli, likes the heavy

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Speaker 6: He'll be a situational guy. Yeah, he'll have.

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Speaker 7: There's a guy here, Dante Fowler, who was considered for

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Speaker 4: Too many bad plays to be on my team. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I can rock Sam.

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Speaker 7: Sam has as many career personal files as he does

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Speaker 3: Bill Parcells would not have him around. So Bill ain't

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Speaker 3: know that. That's the thing I think about saying. Although

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Speaker 3: I don't want him on my football team. I just

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's probably bobly be it for you.

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Speaker 7: It was very just uns certain and wishy washy when

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Speaker 3: Have we when's the last time we saw a contract

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Speaker 6: Pro you know to just here in Dallas or period.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, where where you know, like, hey man, all

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Speaker 5: But he was all pro.

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Speaker 6: Jalen Smith was a pro. He was really pro.

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Speaker 5: All pro. I mean, Diggs led the league and he

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Speaker 7: Yeah, not an alternate that got put on the Pro

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Speaker 7: Bowl about me, like all pro, dude, you're thinking.

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Speaker 3: Elite, Like, hey man, we're gonna give you this contract

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Speaker 4: Most of us thought the Jayalen Smith was and this

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Speaker 4: so we he got it. But he's like, okay, you

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Speaker 6: But he was coming off with L twenty eighteen. They

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Speaker 3: And that and that.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, if it's not all pro, but if

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Speaker 7: that was Jalen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: In the NFL that the one that comes to mind

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, man.

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Speaker 3: That was that was karma. To sign I's side a

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Speaker 5: I'll never ever, I'll never.

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Speaker 3: Get that those teams are done. Yeah, that made no sense.

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Speaker 3: I mean about paying a guy to do something he

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Speaker 3: I thought Diggs was going to be a cornerstone player

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Speaker 3: love Sortaine at Alabama. He was fantastic. He's been everything

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Speaker 3: I thought he would be. I thought they got themselves

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Speaker 3: a steal in the second round, got in by a

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Speaker 3: nice deal contract wise, and like, man, this guy's going

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Speaker 6: I love him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't say I love him.

442
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 5: I like him.

443
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 3: He got a couple of Yeah, he's got a couple

444
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 3: of hits. But you know, it's like I would never

445
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 3: go to a concert.

446
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 7: All right, Well, and I said, it's free, even for

447
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 7: people who don't like him. I everybody's got to respect

448
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 7: him as an artist, as somebody who like is super

449
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 7: creative and to do what.

450
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 3: He's done and do what he has and this has

451
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 3: as hard as it is in this business.

452
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:10,719
Speaker 5: Do what he's done.

453
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 3: It's been incredible run. Okay, incredible run. But I'm I

454
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 3: don't know how you do concerts. I mean, I gotta

455
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 3: have I gotta really really like you to want to

456
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 3: go because you got to get there early.

457
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 5: There's can be somebody performed before and all that.

458
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: So it's gonna take.

459
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Speaker 6: Well, you're a big cranberry S guy.

460
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 3: Back in the day, I couldn't tell you a song

461
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 3: the cranberry I know who they are.

462
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 5: I heard of the Cranberries, but zombie imagine Dragons.

463
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,199
Speaker 3: I would go see they performed out at FC Dallas,

464
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 3: and I can't remember what it was. It was like

465
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 3: it was like, man, it's hot. Yeah, it was like something.

466
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna go die to see them, but I

467
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 3: would go see them. I go see them, you know so,

468
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, it takes a lot if I go to

469
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 3: a Coners. I gotta really really really dig your music. No, no, no,

470
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Speaker 3: I can't can't do that, you know. You know back

471
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 3: when Van Halemy Maroon five, I've seen. I saw him

472
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: doing super Bowl.

473
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Speaker 5: With Fact.

474
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Speaker 4: Now Maroon five was great, saw Maroom five. Man, That's

475
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 4: why people love this show. They never know what they're

476
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 4: gonna get when they come back.

477
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, man, I got some Room five here

478
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 3: on the phone. Baby Harder to breathe. When they first

479
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: came out with their album, so, I was really good

480
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 3: friends with late named Wendy Goodman and Delano. They were

481
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 3: pr people for Sony. So all these groups were coming.

482
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 3: So I got all these records. Hey, there's a new

483
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: artist coming out here. And then when they come to town, like, hey,

484
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 3: k knowe where you want to go? And I was

485
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 3: singing that sure remember one time when he said, Hey,

486
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: he's got this new artist out, Alicia Keys, she's gonna

487
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 3: be over six Flags. You want to go, oh whatever

488
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 3: one of her songs? Sure and so and then of

489
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 3: course you want to meet her. Yeah, So anyway I

490
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 3: meet her six Flags of Hey, fantastic show. Really appreciate media.

491
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 3: And I told whnny she'll never play here again, and

492
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 3: so you used the dude. She was singing about with

493
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: the coffee. I wish she was. No, she gave you

494
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 3: a little extra cream and the coffee there were no

495
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 3: cream in the coffee. I was, you know, I got married,

496
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 3: but oh my bad, Hey, get on that one. Remember

497
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: She's like, you want to see Luther Vandros. Yeah, I

498
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: mean that was the I was. You want to know plug, dude,

499
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 3: I had the plug. Got to meet Usher two feet tall,

500
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: got to Gusher, go to the concert.

501
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Speaker 11: Me.

502
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 3: I was living good back in the day. Man, I

503
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: was living good. I mean a single.

504
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Speaker 5: Hey, you want to go on con take care of me.

505
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 5: They would take care of me.

506
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: So I was, you know, but now it's like I

507
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 3: gotta pay money and I know he was he usher, No, no,

508
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: And where I go out like we see j Cole,

509
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 3: I buy one single ticket and go and do it myself.

510
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 5: Anyway, Eagles coming to town here.

511
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: The Cowboys had the Eagles right where they wanted them.

512
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 5: Offense, with the football, go.

513
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 3: Ahead, run out the clock, win the game, ceedee lamb

514
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 3: drops fast as they loose.

515
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 6: Luke Schoonmaker also didn't finish a catch on that drive.

516
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Speaker 3: Is he done?

517
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 7: Schoonmaker Yeah, Schoonmaker played a decent amount this past week.

518
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 3: Okay, isn't it.

519
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 7: I mean he's in there. He's in there oftentimes for

520
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 7: blocking purposes, but he's in there.

521
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: So they think about that. And then you had schoon

522
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 3: Maker was last year when he had the couldn't score

523
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: over with one and just yeah, Scooney and the Eagles,

524
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: that's kind of a problem Michigan man. Let me ask you,

525
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: let me ask you all. It is am I only

526
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 3: one who feel who understands where a J. Brown coming from?

527
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Speaker 7: No, yeah, yeah, I totally to me, it's the same

528
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 7: question we've already invoked the Mavericks.

529
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 6: Might as well do it with the Rangers.

530
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 7: The Rangers when they were playing okay earlier this year

531
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 7: and then you're like, yeah, but they can't hit and

532
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 7: this is gonna be I love their pitching, that's awesome.

533
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 7: They're not gonna keep winning two to one. There's gonna

534
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 7: be some one nothing games the rest of it. And

535
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 7: that's what happens. So it's like, when they're going well,

536
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 7: it's like, why are you complaining? Look, they're competitive, well,

537
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 7: because this isn't sustainable and right now the Eagles are

538
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 7: not sustainable. They do need to start figuring some things

539
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 7: out on off it. I get where aj Brown's coming from.

540
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 4: I viewed it as an even deeper part of that,

541
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 4: which is, yeah, we win in but we try and

542
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 4: win a championship, and we can't win a championship with

543
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: the way our offense is playing right now.

544
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Speaker 9: Now.

545
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Speaker 4: It's funny to me, is if a media, if writers

546
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 4: were writing it, the players be all upset.

547
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, look receiver saying it. It's very possible.

548
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 7: This is the passing and the Eagles had last year,

549
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 7: and we just didn't give a chance to see it

550
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 7: because Saquon Barkley was playing ridiculous. And now that Barkley's

551
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 7: not that way, it's like, well, you've got underline it.

552
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 7: And that's why you have to complain about those things sometimes,

553
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 7: like if last year it was a problem, like hey,

554
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 7: I know we're winning, Bud. This also has to be

555
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 7: fixed because there's gonna come a time where Sequon is

556
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 7: gonna look like Larry Johnson instead or Zeke.

557
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 3: You can feel the way you do, but when you

558
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: go public like he does in that town. Okay, in

559
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,719
Speaker 3: that town, if he was in Arizona complaining, since' nobody care.

560
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 5: But you're a feeling up.

561
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: They want that, they want it, and you keep going

562
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 3: at it. It's very t o like and it just

563
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 3: wears people down. And your quarterback has it. It's just

564
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 3: in my mind, I think it's very selfish. You can complain.

565
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: John's stalwart complained watching one of the great NFL films

566
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: America's teams, and John openly talked to him. Yeah, but

567
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,239
Speaker 3: I was not happy. After a win, he goes up

568
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: there and he complains of Chuck. No one, Chucks is John.

569
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 3: We won the game, and you know you want your catches,

570
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: He says, Chuck. I'd like to think we can do both.

571
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: John was right super Bowl fourteen. You know, Lynn Swann

572
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: gets hurt and John is amazing as they beat the Rams.

573
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: But John didn't get out here and go public like

574
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 3: this in.

575
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 5: Such a way, which is just.

576
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Speaker 7: But he might have. These players are coming up. No,

577
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 7: but I'm saying these players are coming up in a

578
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 7: different area, different access.

579
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, true, different world, and so I just I

580
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: just think that A. J. Brown is ultimately going to

581
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: do more harm than you.

582
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 6: It's very possible. Look I mean there, which is fine

583
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 6: by me.

584
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 3: I hate it for hurts and.

585
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 7: That's a complicated. I think when you talk to people

586
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 7: who have been around the Eagles organization the last couple

587
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 7: of years, it's a very complicated, delicate situation they.

588
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 6: Have there at all.

589
00:25:59,119 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: The ecosystem.

590
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think that it's the fact that they

591
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 7: kind of held things together and had the success they

592
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 7: did last year is honestly a really impressive job by

593
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 7: sad coaching staff. Sirianni Kellen Moore, who's there, Vic Fangio,

594
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 7: It was a job well done because it's it's a

595
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 7: balancing act. And I don't know, I think that that

596
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 7: team that you saw play against the Lions the other night,

597
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 7: if the Eagles are playing that way, Dallas can compete

598
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 7: with them.

599
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 6: Dallas can play with them this Sunday.

600
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 3: I think this has to be the last year a

601
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: j Brown. It probably is. If I'm Jalen Hurts, I go,

602
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: I know, I go to the management. No, no, no more, No,

603
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 3: they can find someone else. You've got Smith, you can

604
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: go find someone else. Rather than take the slings and

605
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 3: the arrows and all that you're putting up here. Man,

606
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 3: I mean, nah, it's too much, man, too much. I

607
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: just think I just think, ultimately is too much you're

608
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: gonna get through it now. But think about what we saw,

609
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: what Tony went through with TiO.

610
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: It's just not if he had meant throwing a bove

611
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 4: the witting all the time, making no plays, he wouldn't

612
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 4: have to do this week.

613
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 7: Yes, if they didn't have the cocktail napkin plays, yeah,

614
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 7: it wouldn't have the problem. So this is, by the way,

615
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 7: the second time I've heard t O invoked on a

616
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 7: show him on this week, because I did say, that's

617
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 7: who I thought.

618
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 6: Pickens looked like the other night when you running through Si.

619
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 7: But the way the way he was capturing the ball

620
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 7: cutting across the field, Naviga, it looked like the way

621
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 7: it looked like he.

622
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 3: Was playing throw up tackle out there. To me, man,

623
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 3: it's like when when you got that one guy, I think,

624
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: I think he's better than the player.

625
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 5: What he's better than the player?

626
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 4: Pickens than t Wow, he's better than But this is

627
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: all I'm going to say.

628
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 6: T is, if you want to take on how he played,

629
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 6: t is the top five receiver.

630
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, you have to You can't have

631
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 4: one year, you have to have a series of years,

632
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: and and this can be the start of his series

633
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: of years and when he put together about eight of

634
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 4: them like this in a.

635
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 7: Row like that Alicia Keys concert. Was Nora Jones better?

636
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 7: Nord Jones is great?

637
00:27:59,520 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: Better?

638
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 3: Pickt me better?

639
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 5: All I'm saying, just give me pickets.

640
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 6: Man, He's great.

641
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 5: I could like what I like?

642
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, like what I like?

643
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 3: Did you like him?

644
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: Did you like him not starting because he was he

645
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 4: wasn't on the way it was supposed to be when

646
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: he's supposed to be there?

647
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: Did you like that parcel to team? I just asked,

648
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: had his issues?

649
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 5: I just asked you, like, you know what he did?

650
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 5: He did his job.

651
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: Did you like that dumb asstery penalty after the great play?

652
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: Did you like that too? Because you take the whole package.

653
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 4: That's right, I'll take the whole I'll take the whole package.

654
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I'll take the whole package. You know

655
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 4: what I'll take is they have to go down the

656
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: field again here to win the game. It thought that

657
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: George Pickts three times, he'll go make the catch. Give

658
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: me George Pickens.

659
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I just want to you staying.

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Speaker 6: That's Pickens has been.

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Speaker 7: If you want to just talk about in the vacuum

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Speaker 7: this season there's a case that George Pickens has been

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Speaker 7: the best receiver in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think, well, let me see, your boy been

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Speaker 3: doing the.

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Speaker 6: Damn Jackson Smith and Jake but has been the way

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Speaker 6: up there.

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Speaker 3: He's a buck guy, and he's a rock He's a

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Speaker 3: rock wall.

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Speaker 4: And I thought, I'm just going five touchdown the first

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Speaker 4: half against Allen, which was phenomenal, but anyway biased.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I mean, he is leading the league.

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Speaker 7: You don't.

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Speaker 4: You got eleven hundred yards. Ain't nobody else got a thousand.

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Speaker 4: That's not biased.

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Speaker 5: Those the facts.

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Speaker 3: It just so happened that he went to the He's

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Speaker 3: a great player. It's a great I mean, I didn't

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Speaker 3: invote the other.

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Speaker 7: Guess I was thinking while we were sitting here, when

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Speaker 4: No, there's no need to. We haven't been to the

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Speaker 4: final four in a minute, so we don't need to

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Speaker 4: talk about basketball right now. We just with football school

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Speaker 5: Bastball.

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Speaker 4: We might get back to back. I mean, it ain't

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Speaker 7: All that to say, if the offense is back the

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Speaker 7: way it looked like it was back this week, if

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Speaker 7: this week did not play a single snap for Dallas

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Speaker 4: No, Now, this is not breaking news, but it seems

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Speaker 4: to me that this game, even more than the others

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Speaker 4: we've seen recently, is really all about both offensive lines.

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Speaker 4: Lane Johnson out Philadelphia's offensive line, banged up Cowboys kind

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Speaker 4: of getting their line together. It's who can handle the

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Speaker 4: other team's defensive line. Now, before that wouldn't be a

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Speaker 3: Now it's a positive.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we'll see if the Cowboys can handle Phillies'

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Speaker 4: defensive line so that they can do something. But it's

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Speaker 4: a game of offensive lines to me, and that'll be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Run who can establish the run?

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Speaker 7: Philly's had trouble doing that this year now, other than

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Speaker 7: when Jalen was just scrambling on the Cowboys in Week one.

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Speaker 3: I have two questions about that.

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Speaker 4: For you, do you think that, well, two things can

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Speaker 4: be true, But do you think that's because the line

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Speaker 4: has been beat up and hurt all year or because

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Speaker 4: and this is my theory, your boy had like four

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty touches last year, and at his age when.

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Speaker 6: You which is twenty seven, twenty seven club.

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Speaker 4: And at twenty eight, they fall off a cliff. But

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Speaker 4: the number of touches, because he had like one hundred

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Speaker 4: carries and five or ten receptions in the playoffs in

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Speaker 4: addition to all the work he did during the regular season,

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Speaker 4: whether that has affected him this year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it has because I mean he had

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Speaker 7: so Yeah, he had four hundred and eighty two touches

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Speaker 7: between the regular season and playoffs last which is insane.

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Speaker 3: And so just based on that right there, because I

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Speaker 3: think you're absolutely right. What Howie Roseman needed to do

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Speaker 3: was bring in a complimentary back to say, hey, look,

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Speaker 3: fantastic year, we won the Super Bowl. But and we've

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Speaker 3: just given you this contract here. We got to save

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Speaker 3: you, you know, we got to limit your pitch count.

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Speaker 4: When I did some research on this a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: there's only been like eight guys, eight players who had

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Speaker 4: as many touches as him and a season, you know,

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Speaker 4: in the last twenty something years. The following year, almost

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Speaker 4: all of them either hurt or they dropped off precipitously

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Speaker 4: like five six, seven hundred yards because the workload is

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Speaker 4: just so big, and there's only been big names.

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Speaker 5: Who've done it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 7: Larry Johnson and DeMarco Murray, right, and they both had

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Speaker 7: real step drop offs.

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Speaker 4: Next year, who's the one of the running back from

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Speaker 4: Houston had a similar year? Foster and he had he

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Speaker 4: had one of those, but he was hurt the name

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Speaker 4: that was the script though.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know what's the online they saying, And

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Speaker 3: you know, body's only got so many hits in boxing.

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Speaker 3: You only got so many hits in me, and you

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Speaker 3: can only take that much punishment and that I do

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Speaker 3: believe there's something there. And the best one to me

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Speaker 3: is Derrick Henry. The two years he's had his huge years.

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Speaker 4: The next year he's been good, but it's been nothing

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Speaker 5: It's like your body got to got it.

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Speaker 4: I need a year to recover and then I can

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Speaker 11: Well.

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Speaker 7: And out of all those people we talked about, the

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Speaker 7: and so Saquon coming off of already having a long

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Speaker 7: told that he took on his body and being as

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Speaker 7: old as he was, Yeah, he's it felt like a

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Speaker 7: good bet that he was going to have a decline here.

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Speaker 3: And it's very interesting, as you guys bring up a

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Speaker 3: fantastic point is.

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Speaker 5: With all the analytics.

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Speaker 3: And things that you can go and look at today,

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Speaker 3: you know what, Saquon, you're a guy. We're going to

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Speaker 3: give you this raise, but we've got we've got to

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Speaker 3: We got to cut it back just a little bit

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Speaker 3: to help you. Yeah, data, Yeah, to do that. Speaking

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Speaker 3: of backup running backs, Jaydon Blue of the Cowboys, a

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Speaker 3: lot of people had high hopes for the running back

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Jayden Blue has not gotten as many opportunities recently.

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Speaker 7: Malik Davis is the one who got him on Monday

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Speaker 7: Night and he was asked about Malik being over Jayden Blue,

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Speaker 7: and one of the things he said was, Malik has

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Speaker 7: done an incredible job since he's got back. He's a

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Speaker 7: personal protector. He's doing a great job. I think he's

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Speaker 7: on three or four core special teams units. He's running well.

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Speaker 7: He and Jayden will continue to compete. But right now,

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Speaker 7: when you're looking at the two, that's where Jayden has

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Speaker 7: to understand. Until you're the guy, which at some point,

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Speaker 7: hopefully he is the guy, you've got to be able

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Speaker 7: to impact the game in other ways. I think he

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Speaker 7: understands that Jaden is learning a lot about this league.

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Speaker 7: He's always going to continue to compete and put his

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Speaker 7: best foot forward. He doesn't have to like the decision

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Speaker 7: if it goes against him to play someone else, but

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Speaker 7: he's got to make sure he's always prepared to go play.

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Speaker 3: You know, I had a thought the other day. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I can't remember what I heard.

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Speaker 4: Brian Schottenheimer said something, and I said to myselfself, I

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Speaker 4: wish him success because he will give you some really good,

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Speaker 4: authentic answers. Now, maybe he's so young in his career

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Speaker 4: he hadn't turned to coach speak yet. Excuse me, but

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I mean without his dad was generally like

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Speaker 7: And I think that, I mean, he's told the story

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Speaker 7: Like when he got the job here in Dallas, A

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Speaker 7: he wanted to work with the defensive side with Dan

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Speaker 7: Quinn was because he was like, I needed to find

879
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 7: my connection with players again, and Dan is the best

880
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 7: I'd ever seen at it, and I needed to get

881
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 7: around that again and remind myself of like who I

882
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 7: was and how I need to be. And so I

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00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 7: know there's been a recommitment for him to just I

884
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 7: got to be as authentic as possible at all times,

885
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Speaker 7: and everything else will take care of itself.

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Speaker 4: Because that's a really good answer, which is, hey, Doug,

887
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 4: and to you that, dudes, you need to be.

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Speaker 3: On three or four special teams, man.

889
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, in addition to knowing what you're supposed to do

890
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: and until you do that.

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Speaker 3: Though, it ain't gonna happen. What are the great things

892
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 3: in parcels talked about? When he was here, I'm looking

893
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 3: at a guy, a backup player, like how many snaps

894
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 3: am I getting?

895
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Speaker 5: That was his whole thing. You got to be giving

896
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Speaker 5: me a lot of snaps.

897
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Speaker 3: And if you're not, then I'm going to put somebody

898
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 3: else on the roster and let us give him. Elitite

899
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: Davis a whole lot of credit because there was a

900
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: time where I thought he was a better running.

901
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 5: Back than Rigo Dauda was for the Cowboys.

902
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: That just it looked like it early on when they

903
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: were just both competing, and then he stayed ready, he's

904
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: gone out there. He's been a true professional, been a

905
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: true professional.

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Speaker 7: He's grown up too. I think early on when he

907
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 7: was here, there was some there were some questions for them,

908
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 7: similar to probably what Jayden Blues dealing with now, like

909
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 7: do you know how to be a pro?

910
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Speaker 6: Do you know?

911
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 7: Do you know how to handle things? And Malik Davis

912
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 7: was in that spot at one point and he grew

913
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Speaker 7: up past it and they saw that growth, and I

914
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 7: think that's one of the things they actually really appreciate

915
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 7: and respect about him.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, man, that's that's uh. That happens

917
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 3: a lot in this league. Guys have to just figure

918
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: it out and get it and it's not as easy

919
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: as maybe it was when you were playing in college.

920
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: But once again, I give him, I have a lot

921
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: of respect for him because he just he stuck with

922
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: it and sometimes that's you gotta do. I remember when

923
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Speaker 3: Keenan McCardell kept getting cut. Bill Belichick would cut him

924
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 3: two three times a year, and he just stuck with

925
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: it until he finally became a outstanding wide receiver and

926
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 3: had a really good career. But you know, it's perseverance.

927
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Speaker 3: There you go, the words perseverance. All right, jj T

928
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: appreciate you man. So I was good to see you, man.

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Speaker 3: Hope you enjoyed your vacation. Yes, eight days in Vegas. Baby,

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Speaker 3: it's great, it's great.

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Speaker 5: Loved it, Bobby, Yes, sir, good to see you again.

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Speaker 6: Good to see you too.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll do it again, uh tomorrow right here

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Speaker 3: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com on new we strugs.

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Speaker 6: Comebye.

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