WEBVTT - Ep 02: This Is What A Courtroom Looks Like 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:13.280 From iHeart Podcasts. This is Supreme The Battle for. 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:19.000 Row Roll Against Wait. 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:21.959 Starring Maya Hawk and William H. 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:28.000 Macy, Mister Chief Justice and may have Pleased the Court. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:30.240 Episode two. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:32.479 This is what a courtroom looks like. 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:38.160 Sarah. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:39.960 Oh, what is it wrong? 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.000 Sarah? It's three in the morning. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:43.160 What are you doing up? 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.360 What am I I'm going to the bathroom. I'm I'm 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.600 I'm doing the only normal thing one does at three am. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.240 What are you doing in the dining room? 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:54.000 Don't start wrong, Sarah. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.760 You had a full day at the office. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.720 The early stages of a federal case require a massive 0:00:58.720 --> 0:00:59.600 amount of paperwork. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.280 You know that, Yes, I do know that a dozen 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.720 pair of legals are supposed to do that stuff for you. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.120 Oh, are there any in the bed with you? Because 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.280 there are none here in the dining room. Let me 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:13.559 know if there are any in the bathroom with you, Okay, Ron, 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:15.600 Can I tell you a secret? 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.080 Well, it's three am. You may as well. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.759 I'm really bad at. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.360 Paperwork, and that's not a secret, Sarah. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.880 I'm saying I can talk. Put me in a room 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.319 with whoever you like, and I'll orate the heck out 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.520 of whatever legal principle you want me to. I can preach. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.280 I got my daddy in me. I can answer questions too. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:41.280 But paperwork, it's not your thing. It's really not research either. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.039 Did you know that about me? 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:44.800 Your puntry right now, Sarah. 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.680 You know why because I worked a full day at 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.560 the office and it's three am and I'm sitting in 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:51.600 front of a mountain of paperwork instead of been bed 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:51.880 with you. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:56.640 Good night, Sarah. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:58.280 I need help. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.680 A driver. Take I thirty five West to I four 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.720 ninety four East. My seventh is a parking on this 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:15.840 time of the day. Let the man drive, Harry. He 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.120 knows what he's doing. You are just on edge and 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.200 you're being rude to our guest. I don't see why 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.520 I need to be in a limousine perfectly capable of 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.840 driving us to the airport myself, Dottie. 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.960 The President just wants you to know you appreciated Judge Blackman. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.000 And that's why you're here, mister Goldman, a token of 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:34.880 his appreciation. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:36.919 No, Judge, I'm not a gift. I'm here to prep 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:37.440 you for battle. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.520 Dramatic. There's very little resistance to my appointment to the 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:42.080 Eighth Circuit. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.040 I'll do respect, Judge winning a spot in Saint Paul's 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:45.480 pretty different from winning a spot in DC. 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.000 Meaning exactly what, mister Goldman, call me. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:49.919 Sam for starters. 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.239 You got the position on the Eighth Circuit Becausejessice Berger 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:53.640 put in a good word with the administration. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.079 Aha, So nothing to do with my decades long career 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.280 in the law or my double Harvard degrees. Got it? 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.000 Go on, no disrespect, Judge. You know the more you 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.960 say that, the less meaning it has, Right Bree Harry for. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.320 The Supreme Court, Judge Blackman, a recommendation won't cut it. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:10.840 Over the next few weeks, you're going to meet with 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.600 every US Senator to try to secure his vote. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.799 One hundred meetings in a few weeks. I don't think 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.240 I've met one hundred new people in the past five years. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:19.920 He's not joking, mister Goldman. 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:21.520 You don't need to spend time with his senators whose 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.760 votes are assured. Judge will focus on the fifty five 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:25.120 senators who killed Hainsworth. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.840 Hainsworth's nomination that the Court failed. Let's not talk about 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:32.400 him as if he was murdered, All right, Sam, in Washington, 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.040 he may as well have been, sir, Well, good thing, 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.200 I don't much care what Washington thinks of me. 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.360 That's exactly what I'm getting at, Judge. For the next 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.080 few weeks. That's all you should care about in these meetings. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:42.880 You need to do something I know you're not fond of. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.560 You need to be political. I hesitate to ask, But 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.600 what does that mean? Means you don't have a firm 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.440 opinion on anything. Whatever you take a stand on can 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:51.680 and will be eased against you. 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.120 You can't really mean that. If a senator. 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.720 Asks if you love your daughters, you say you need 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:56.680 to get back to him on that. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.520 So I should pretend to be a moron? 0:03:58.720 --> 0:03:58.920 Is that? 0:03:59.000 --> 0:03:59.520 It's Sam? 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:01.680 Literally, no chance of you coming off as a moron, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:02.320 Judge Blackman. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:06.120 At worst, you'll come off as a politician, and if possible, 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.280 be careful not too well. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:09.960 The less erudite, the better. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.840 Dottie, I think Sam is calling me pompous. 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:15.920 Yes, well someone should dear. 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.400 I read you worked as a janitor to pay for Harvard, 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.320 Judge Blackman, that's the man the senator should hear from. 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:22.120 Not the Ivory Tower. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.159 Intellectual. You do realize the whole point of Harvard was 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:30.400 to become an intellectual. Right anyway, I'm an institutionalist. Sam. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.599 If confirmed to the Court, I won't be overturning the 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.680 apple cart. I'll be steady and uncontroversial, just like your 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:41.240 boss wants me to be. Surely it's safe to tell. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.240 Him that some senators will like that, others won't. I 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.839 heard you're a baseball fanatic, Judge. Feel free to discuss 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.359 that subject as much as you like. 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.880 So you want me to take the brief opportunity. I 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.880 have a nominee to the highest realm of justice in 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.720 our nation, meeting with members of the world's greatest deliberative 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.719 body and talk about harmon kill a brew and Rod 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.440 Carew's batting averages. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.120 Now I need you to do more than that, Judge, 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:07.960 even on the issues that matter most to you. You 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.680 don't just change the subject. You stretch the truth, You 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:11.839 glad hand and smile. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:13.760 Is this what you do for the president? 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:14.119 Sam? 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.440 Prep us beauty queens for the pageants. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:18.760 Judge, I'm a senior aid in the White House. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.680 My portfolio for the President includes the situation in Cambodia, 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.480 nuclear non proliferation, civil rights, the cholera epidemic in Istanbul, 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.560 and another two dozen crises that you don't even want 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:29.440 to know about. So it should tell you something that 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.120 I dropped at all to come to Saint Paul, just 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.039 to fly back to DC with you and get you 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.000 ready for this confirmation battle. And believe me, battle is 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.960 an understatement. First two nominees for the seat went down 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.120 in flames. This seat's been open a year, and President 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.040 Nixon doesn't particularly enjoy looking. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.279 Like an amateur. Neither do I. 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:45.680 Then you need to listen to me. 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:46.159 Judge. 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.320 The last two nominees didn't. Perhaps you don't understand. 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.120 I understand all too well. Sam. No one in this 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.240 country had ever given Judge Haynesworth a second thought, but 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.360 after his rejection by the Senate, he became a household 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:03.039 name by the press. Is anti labor, accused of enriching 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:07.040 himself in a case, and called a racist, three charges 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.920 that will now be the first line in that man's obituary. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.839 I will not let that happen to me or my family. Sam, 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.480 you want me to pretend to be an idiot talk baseball, fine, 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.880 chosen to step up to the plate. I have no 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:25.520 intentions of striking out and becoming another Hainesworth. So tell 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.840 me how to do this. As revolting as I find it. 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.720 I promise I will go down swinging. 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.479 Plalmer and Palmer Please hold? 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.480 Can I help you? Miss Yesh I'm looking for an 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.800 associate who works here, Linda Coffee? 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:56.640 What is your name? 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.520 Do you have an appointment? I'm Sarah Weddington. She's not 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.599 expecting me. I called, but I couldn't get through. Thought 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:03.680 i'd just show up. 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.280 This isn't a scrap booking club, Miss Weddington, it's a 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:06.840 law firm. 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.080 You don't just show up now. I believe this coffee 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.520 is in conference room nine, So if you'll take a seat, 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:18.200 that's all right. I'd like a surpriser. Thanks. Hey, wait, you. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:25.360 Can't go, sir. You simply will never get a patent 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:25.600 for that. 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:26.600 Why on earth not? 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:31.320 Because the law is clear, Sir, you can't patent a 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:32.440 living organism. 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.920 I disagree. When is your boss joining us? 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:41.840 He's not, sir, Linda, Linda, Sorry, sir, give me just 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:48.960 a second. Sarah Weddington. What on earth, Holanda? What are 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.200 you doing here? Are you interviewing for an associate position? 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:51.480 There? 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:52.920 I came to see you? 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:53.800 Really? 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.160 Yes? Really, Linda? Yes, can we talk. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.320 I'm in the middle of a meeting. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.960 But it doesn't seem like it's going so well, Sarah. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.240 I'll wait, how about a drink after work? 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.640 Maybe? Okay, I'm gonna check my calendar. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.280 I won't take no for an answer, Linda, I need 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:10.160 your help on a case. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.200 You need my help. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.560 Don't sound so suspicious. You were one of the most 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:15.800 brilliant students in class. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.200 Yes, but there were only five women in our entire class, 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.240 and we barely exchanged ten words there. 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.160 How many do you need to make an impression? 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:25.800 You look down on me? 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.240 I was intimidated by you, Linda. 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:29.760 No. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.880 I was shy and uncomfortable, and you were the most 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.640 outgoing person in the whole damn school. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.840 You didn't respect me, and you thought I was only 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.520 in law school to find a husband. Admit it. 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.360 I need to get back in there. Nice seeing you, Sarah. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:48.760 I guess, sweetie, get your boss, Sarah. 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:50.199 He's going to tell you the same thing I did. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:51.839 I don't want to hear it from a secretary. 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.760 She's not a secretary, Sarah, Get out of here. 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:55.240 Who is this? 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:56.559 She's no one, sir. 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.960 Linda Coffee is a brilliant legal mind. You're lucky to 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.280 have her representing you. Did you know she was in 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.959 the Dallas Morning News for getting the second highest score 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.440 on the bar. Examine the entire state, and she's right. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.840 By the way, you can't patent a living. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.400 Organism, according to you. 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.640 According to US Code Title thirty five, Section one oh one, 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.400 you can patent processes, machines, manufacturers, and compositions. That's it. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.800 Huh, Well, why didn't you say that? 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:24.120 You know what? Sir? 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:31.040 Give me one more second. You need to leave, Sarah. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:32.320 You're gonna get be fired. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.600 I think you mean I'm gonna get you promoted. Anyway. 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:37.600 I'm not leaving until you agree to help me. 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.400 Lord. Can you just want me for the paperwork? 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:45.280 That's not entirely true? I mean, yes, you are much 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.959 better at that than I am, much better at preparation 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:49.800 and procedure and research. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.440 But so what, what's the case? 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.240 Does it matter? It's a real case, Sarah, what is it? 0:09:55.440 --> 0:10:02.960 We're challenging the Texas abortion laws in federal court. Don't 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.040 laugh at me, Linda. How often do people with our 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:09.600 chromosomes get actual legal work in this state? I just 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.800 wish someone had warned me before three years of law 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.199 school that no one would ever hire me. 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.120 Sarah. 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:19.040 Everyone warned you, and I know I'm not in the movement, okay, 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.760 but this is a great opportunity to get some legal experience. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:28.920 I know it is. That's not why I laughed. I've 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:30.000 been working on the same thing. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:31.319 What are you talking about. 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:32.439 I haven't gotten far. 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.520 I had this day job, but I do have some 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.840 research and a lot of ideas. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:38.840 I knew I came to the right person. 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.680 Don't get excited. We're definitely gonna lose. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.040 Who cares? I do have one question I'm hoping you 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.080 can help me with right off the bat, though, Linda. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:48.960 What's that? 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:50.760 What the hell do we do? First? 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:56.720 First we find plainiffs, lots of them. You mean the 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:57.800 lobby at sex. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.520 Thank god, hot coffee. I'm starting to think this is 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:19.560 a lost cause, Linda. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.440 I've got one plaintiff for us already. She'll be Jane Roe. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.640 We just need a few more for the court record 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.120 to make this a legitimate class action. 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.319 Well, if the last eight women's groups, hospitals, and referral 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.920 services are any indication, no other women are going to 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:34.600 lend their names? 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.360 Can you blame them? Hello? You too, Welcome to the session. 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.800 Are you interested in joining our group? Sorry? Which group 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:42.080 is this? 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.640 We're the problem? Pregnancy counseling group. But I'm afraid we've 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:46.640 just finished for the day. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.600 Ladies, I'm Lenda Coffee. 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.440 If i could just have a second, excuse me, mess 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:55.720 perhaps a quick. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.560 Word, ladies, if we could have your attention please, I'm 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.720 Sarah and this is Linda Coffee. We're bringing a suit 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.640 challenging the Texas abortion laws, and we're looking for plaintiffs, 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.040 which is a fancy word for saying we need to 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.000 put people's names on these forms. We have a brave 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.920 woman signed up already, but we need a lot more now. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.079 We're paying all expenses of the case from our own pockets, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.720 so we don't have any money to offer. But but 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.080 people would know I'm trying to get rid of my baby. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.560 You're joking, I'd get fired on the spot. Plus my 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:28.559 family doesn't even know. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.400 Ladies, I know it's not easy. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.720 Doctors told me my baby won't live long and my 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.560 boyfriend won't pay for us to go to Mexico. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:42.040 You can help me get the procedure. Oh maybe, yes, Sarah, 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:47.640 let me talk to you for a sec. I know 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.640 what you're gonna say, Linda, but maybe we can get 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.400 her help from my coworker's referral service. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.680 Okay, but if you do that, she can't be a plaintiff. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:54.400 Why not? 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.120 If she has the abortion, she has no standing. What 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.079 would she be suing for. 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.960 Only women who carry their pregnancies to charm despite not 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.120 wanting to can be our plaintiffs. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.000 So can you help me? 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:16.600 Uh? Yeah, I think I can call this number, ask 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.199 for Bee or deb. They'll refer you to a doctor 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.440 who can help. Thank you. In exchange, I can do 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.920 your suit or whatever. You can't actually, but that's all right. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.959 Just call that number. Take care of yourself. 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:38.000 Oh thanks, Come on, Sarah, three more stops before we 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:38.520 call tonight. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.720 I appreciate you coming by to talk to me today. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:56.160 Judge Blackman, good luck to you. No, thank you, Senator. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:01.440 I can't tell you what a pleasure it's been. Kill me. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.640 Just kill me now. Sam. 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.079 You gotta lighten up, Judge, make the senators feel like 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:07.719 you actually want to be talking to them. 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.720 You're telling me to dance. I'm being considered for the 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.040 Supreme Court, and you're telling me to dance. 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.920 Absolutely, Fox Trot, Conga, Charleston, whatever steps You know you've 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:18.959 met with twenty one senators already, which puts is kind 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:19.240 of God. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.520 Is that all feels like one hundred and twenty one? 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.600 If I have to discuss my judicial philosophy one more? 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.040 Stop discussing it? Who told you to? 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.440 Most of these senators can't even pronounce judicial philosophy. The 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.000 ones who votes are up for grabs just want to 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.960 know you're not a radical, that you like them. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.520 I know, I know you want me to discuss the 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.720 Mary Tyler Moore Show or baseball. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:41.560 I implore you. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.320 Sam, if I take in an Orioles game, I'll talk 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.720 about it till I'm blue in the face. Since I'm 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.400 not at Memorials Stadium, but rather in the US Capital, 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.920 I'd prefer to talk about real issues. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:54.440 Do you want to get confirmed or not? 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:55.560 Judge? 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:57.280 Who's next? 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.440 You've got the next three senators together in mister Thurman office, 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:01.560 Then we can leave. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.320 Thank God. I can't wait to get back to the 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.720 hotel and sleep like a dead person. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.320 Sure, sure, but at eight pm you've got a cocktail 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.720 party at Katherine Graham's followed by a quick stop at 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.160 Congressman Blatnick's reception. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:33.760 Kill me, seriously, kill me now, Sam. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.400 Grap There have only been half a dozen suits in 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:29.200 US history. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.920 Can that be right, sir, not big enough to say 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:33.280 to president that's good. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:34.680 Rat, keep your eyes on the. 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:39.120 Road, Sarah, I don't believe this. There's only been one 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.360 abortion case in Texas history, and it was in eighteen eighty. 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:44.880 How you doing on statutes? 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.840 I'll tell you when we pull over, But I think 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.200 article's eleven ninety one and eleven ninety six are vulnerable. 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.480 On constitutional grounds. Otherwise we're back in state court. What 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:56.280 about First Amendment? 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:56.960 How do you mean? 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.520 Well, doesn't the law prohibit a doctor from freeli asssociating 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:01.560 with the pregnant patient. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.680 Oh that's good, Linda, write that down. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:10.080 Damn my fries. How clear are your floor mat Sarah? 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.480 Never mind? I'm eating them either way. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.920 Linda, you realize you have more mustard on your cheek 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.160 than your belly. Rat, We're so screwed. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.160 It's not a beauty contest, Sarah. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:26.880 No, it's not. But also yes it is, Linda. We 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:27.680 need experts. 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.200 We can't afford experts. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.960 Why because no one is going to be able to 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.520 hear the message unless they respect the messenger. We need men, 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:56.120 old men, old wat men with East coast degrees. Professor Dohlberg, 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:57.000 that's right. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:58.800 What can I help you with. 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.560 I'm Sarah Weddington and this is Linda Coffee. We'd like 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.720 to talk to you about providing expert testimony for a 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:04.400 federal suit. 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.480 Oh yeah, okay, sure, where's your boss, sir? 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:10.840 We are the lawyer's handling the case. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:12.200 I don't understand. 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:18.119 I'm confused. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.160 Yes, sir, I'm saying we're the lawyers on the case. 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:30.960 Noah, Thunk's taken, really, sir, we're. 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:35.360 Legal secretaries at Weddington Coffee and Associates. Our bosses are 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.200 interested in retaining your services. May we have a minute? 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.159 Oh yeah, of course, come right in. 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.320 Legislation is stuck in committee for the fourth time. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.160 This may be the longest of shots, but it's also 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.000 the last chance for a lot of women. 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:55.919 You and Linda need to work harder. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.480 We have jobs, deb last time I look, this case 0:17:59.520 --> 0:17:59.840 isn't pay. 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:01.920 That's supposed to be an excuse. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.960 It's a reality. Dep You don't like it, get someone 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.040 else to work herself to the bone for free. All right, ladies, 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.760 we're all on the same team. Let's take it down 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.119 a notch. Sarah, speak of the devil. Linda, help me 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.800 explain to our support group that we're working as fast 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:17.200 as we can. 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.879 T're on the radio right now? What's going on? 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:20.280 Linda? 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:21.199 Forget it? 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.240 I'll do it now. 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.639 On the calendar for May twenty third, the Dallas judge 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:30.640 is hearing the controversial abortion case will be Hughes, Taylor, 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:35.000 and Goldberg, three judges appointed by Democratic presidents. 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:39.520 The Dallas Court accepted our case Hughes, Taylor, and Goldberg. 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:44.080 Those are three liberals May twenty third. I thought we'd 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:44.760 have more time. 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.840 This is a good thing, Sarah. 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.240 Yeah, right, sure. 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.560 You knew this wasn't just for fun, right Sarah? 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.359 Uh huh? 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:01.240 What's got you? 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.399 The court agreeing to hear our case was one of wait, 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.720 let me do the math, two possible outcomes. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.480 I can't do it, Linda, Well, does it take the 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.080 pressure off to remember? No one expects us to win. 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:18.240 You don't understand. I never talked to a judge before. 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.320 I've never made an argument in front of anybody that mattered. 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:27.560 I've never even been inside a courtroom. Why are you laughing? 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:35.439 You think you're Inexperience is what hurts our chances, Sarah, sweetie, 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:37.320 we've never had a chance. 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:40.159