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Speaker 3: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 4: This he is Hanging with the Boys, presented by wing

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Speaker 4: Stuff Where Flavor gets its wings.

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Speaker 5: Now, your hosts, Nate Newton, Kirk Daniels, Jesse Holly and

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Speaker 5: Shannon gross.

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Speaker 3: Shot, welcome to this show. Hump Day.

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Speaker 6: We got those Saints behind us, looking forward to the

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Speaker 6: Baltimore Ravens, and you are looking live at Toastedos Championship

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Speaker 3: Who in the back. We got my boy, Chris Bean,

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Speaker 3: Nathaniel Newton, my boy Daniels, s G I am Salt,

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Speaker 3: and Pepper Poppy. Together we make Hanging with the Boys

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Speaker 6: by Wingstop Where Flavor gets its wings and boy, pardon

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Speaker 6: us if Derek's gonna hate us today.

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Speaker 3: It's all good. We're giving love to the people.

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Speaker 6: We have been instructed not to eat on the air.

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Speaker 6: But Derek, sorry about it, all right, bro. We got

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Speaker 6: seventy five wings in here, five.

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Speaker 3: Wins in here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so here's a wingstop wings.

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Speaker 3: He's a wingstop wings. Today's a great day. It's it's

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Speaker 3: it's for me, you know. It's mental health Wednesday. Right,

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Speaker 3: it's a wellness Wednesday. We got wings on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: What other w am I looking for? Hopefully we'll get

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Speaker 3: a win.

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Speaker 1: It's a wonderful day.

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Speaker 3: It's wonderful day. But shout out and we love, we love.

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Speaker 3: We got some of the best listeners around.

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Speaker 6: We love free stuff.

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Speaker 3: We do stuff for money and for free stuff. We

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Speaker 3: don't do stuff for free. We do stuff for money,

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Speaker 3: free stuff, but we'll take free stuff as well. And

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Speaker 3: we just I got to give a shout out to

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Speaker 3: Stephen Pellegrinio Pellegrino. I'm gonna go Steven Pellegrino at Stephen

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Speaker 3: Pelly fourteen Cowboy fan in Cleveland, Ohio, big time listener.

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Speaker 3: He's one of those legacy Cowboy fans, been around for

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Speaker 3: a long time, and he loves the show. He loves

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Speaker 3: how We get down. He loves that I am the

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Speaker 3: voice of reason No. But he loves to show and

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Speaker 3: they said, hey, I want to treat the god to

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Speaker 3: some wings.

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Speaker 1: And he made it.

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Speaker 3: He told me specifically, and I wasn't able to do

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Speaker 3: it today. I will do it another day. But he

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Speaker 3: told me specifically to make sure Nate that we took

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Speaker 3: some home to the missus. Also, I gotta get if Mama,

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Speaker 3: if Mama Gross can't make any any cinnamon rolls for

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Speaker 3: for Nate, I gotta get ate cinnamon rolls. This was

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Speaker 3: These were strict instructions that was given to me. So

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Speaker 3: we got to make sure that we have enough left

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Speaker 3: over which we will for uh for Nate to take

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Speaker 3: home to the wife. He so, yeah, we got wings

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Speaker 6: All right, awesome, thank you Steve.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you brother. We appreciate it. Amazing.

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Speaker 7: We're trying to and uh, you know, I hate to

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Speaker 7: but you know, Jesse told us like three weeks ago

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Speaker 7: us this morning said, fellas, y'all still home, and I

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Speaker 7: think three for three was no And I thought about it.

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Speaker 1: I said, if I leave.

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Speaker 7: Jess on the porch one more time, this mental health

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Speaker 7: wins that could go to.

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Speaker 1: I will be there. But I'm telling you who ain't

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Speaker 3: That's right, this boy right today.

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Speaker 6: Well you know I'm gonna put it back on Jesse

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Speaker 6: because he knows what this group victim. You can't tell

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Speaker 6: us once yes, three or four weeks out. We're like

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Speaker 1: Ain't like that dude on coming too a Marria.

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Speaker 6: That terrible. All right, let's go. Wednesday shows off to

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Speaker 6: a great start.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's mental and dentals, dentals, everybody.

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Speaker 8: Mental, good and terrible, terrible, terrible.

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Speaker 6: Well, Kurt, you had a little in trepidation over there.

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Speaker 3: You said, uh, I just guilt, that's all.

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Speaker 1: I don't be killed. No, no, everybody can make on

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Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm glad it was this six. So you

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Speaker 6: Well, it's Wednesday, so we got to put that terrible

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Speaker 6: the most part, the fans are still in okay shape.

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Speaker 6: Most of them seem to be like, Okay, it's one game,

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Speaker 3: Eight, Jordan Phillips. I'm not laughing. I'm laughing at Nate.

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Speaker 3: This is not I'm not laughing at Jordan Phillips. I'm

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Speaker 1: The world knows number nine when ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: so that's an injury update on I'm laughing at Nate.

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Speaker 6: Nate has left the studio, by the way.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so I don't know what the Cowboys going

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Speaker 3: to do defensively. Some may say that the Cowboys got

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Speaker 6: That was breaking news. So good stuff. So Carlos Watkins

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm laughing at you. I'm laughing at Nate. For

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Speaker 6: It says five DB's have passer rating allowed over ninety five.

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Speaker 6: So do you going into this game? Are you? I know?

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Speaker 6: you what should they do this week?

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Speaker 7: They're gonna have to just they're gonna run to just

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Speaker 1: They're gonna run to keep it honest.

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Speaker 1: They have a good enough defensive line.

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Speaker 1: Right now it's the run.

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Speaker 7: But they can they not only can beat you as

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Speaker 7: I watched the LA film and there's like five or

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Speaker 7: They got great outside linebackers, so and then they got

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Speaker 7: Try to run to just fairly try to keep them

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Speaker 7: We would say no negative plays. If we get back

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Speaker 3: Now they're playing coverage. Yeah they're playing coverage behind it,

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Speaker 3: And the thing that Kansas City and even sometimes moments

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Speaker 3: I am I am trying because Patrick Mahomes was thirty

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Speaker 3: Meaning they're not letting anything get behind them. They're saying

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Speaker 3: You know, Like they're playing those percentages and if I'm

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Speaker 3: there's not a good win percentage when Dak throws the

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you we do not have the facilities. We

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Speaker 7: But if you don't, if you don't, if you don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't get especially from the start of the game.

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Speaker 1: You cannot. That's why I said.

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Speaker 1: You better try to do something.

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Speaker 3: To keep him honest. They giving up forty nine and

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Speaker 7: even bigger he had. He had a nice, little decent

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Speaker 7: game for a guy that hadn't played a lot.

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Speaker 1: But we need an even bigger role from him and

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Speaker 1: our wide receivers.

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Speaker 7: Y'all just can't drop the ball and be in the

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Speaker 7: right place when Dak throws you the ball b where

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Speaker 7: you're supposed to be. I was telling Jesse Alvare, if

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Speaker 7: this was Tom Brady and it ain't.

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Speaker 1: No able one, Tom Brady, you ain't never worried about it.

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Speaker 7: I remember one game a team said you can't run

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Speaker 7: against us, and they through like forty five straight time.

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Speaker 7: I mean they threw like forty forty five straight time, Tom,

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Speaker 7: but she's eating them up with Edelman and the other kids,

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Speaker 7: eating them alive when the game's low with well, we

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Speaker 7: didn't have to run the ball, and I hope that

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Speaker 7: we can the Cowboys say hey, well we didn't have

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Speaker 7: to run the ball.

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Speaker 3: And this is where you this is where at times,

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Speaker 3: and I've talked about this on this show for years,

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Speaker 3: like I feel like coaching should get you a game

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Speaker 3: or two a year, like just share coaching, just share

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Speaker 3: the ability to put together and call one of the

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Speaker 3: greatest game that you've ever called a couple times a

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Speaker 3: year that when you when you leave that game, you

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Speaker 3: be like, boy, I don't know how we got that one,

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Speaker 3: but boy, or you know, but we coached the hell

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Speaker 3: out of that game. And this is one of those

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Speaker 3: games for both coordinators slash head coach like Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 3: has to call, I think, the most creative game of

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Speaker 3: his recent history as a Cowboys head coach slash officer coordinator.

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Speaker 3: And of course we know that that Zim has to

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Speaker 3: rebound from that disaster last week, and you know we

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Speaker 3: chuckled about it earlier. You potentially now might be missing

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Speaker 3: two of your defensive tackles. So they were that bad

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Speaker 3: last week. I don't know if the guys behind them

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Speaker 3: are going to help your calls, But for the Cowboy

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Speaker 3: like this, I just can't stop thinking about. I started

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Speaker 3: watching it last night. I finished watching you know this morning,

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Speaker 3: and it's there are extremely and supremely discipline, physical and tough,

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Speaker 3: and their front front seven. Well, it's an.

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Speaker 6: Interesting game because I don't remember in recent seasons where

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Speaker 6: you've had two good playoff teams that three games in,

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Speaker 6: if either one of them loses, it's it's burned the ships.

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Speaker 6: It's panic mode right like, because they'll be oh and three,

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Speaker 6: Cowboys will be one and two and coming off of

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Speaker 6: a terrible loss to New Orleans. And then, however this

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Speaker 6: plays out, even if you lose, like you're it's, you know,

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Speaker 6: three games in and you're you could be freaking out

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Speaker 6: either way, you.

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Speaker 9: Know, I wouldn't be a close game. I don't think

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Speaker 9: it's burned the ship. Even if the Cowboys lose, if

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Speaker 9: they lose close, I don't think it's burned the ships.

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Speaker 9: Now they get blown out again, then I think you

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Speaker 9: start worrying about when things gonna spy.

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Speaker 6: I think you're still in panic mode because you're one

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Speaker 6: and two, then you're.

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Speaker 9: Going to the giants the pharmacy hopefully, and then you.

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Speaker 6: Have to and then you have then you have that stretch.

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Speaker 9: Of that and at that point, yeah, you're like hell

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Speaker 9: for two months. But if they're two and two at

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Speaker 9: this point, how surprised would you have been?

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Speaker 3: And that comes in what you're saying, come in the

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Speaker 3: play on the sense of what team is going to

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Speaker 3: play with the greater desperation, right, what team is going

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Speaker 3: to play with that sense of urgency.

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Speaker 6: And the scary part is this is a punch you

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Speaker 6: in the mouth type defense.

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Speaker 3: And when they've the.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys going back for a few years, when they get

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Speaker 6: punched in the mouth, they don't really respond to that

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Speaker 6: adversity very well.

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Speaker 3: Up, if they wouldn't the toss, they better not defer it,

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Speaker 3: They better not defer take the ball. You got to

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Speaker 3: take the ball earlier and just try to get punched

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Speaker 3: on the ball and make them have to play from behind,

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Speaker 3: because I think when you make them have to play

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Speaker 3: from behind, you may get Lamar Jackson to make mistakes.

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Speaker 3: But like for the Cowboys, off, it's gonna be you

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Speaker 3: need all hands on deck because even your offensive line.

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Speaker 3: They they I don't want to sound like a broken record,

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Speaker 3: and I don't want to sound like I'm this scary,

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Speaker 3: fearful dude. But I like to believe that I know

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Speaker 3: a little bit about a little bit when it comes

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Speaker 3: to football. I'm not saying that I was a great player.

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Speaker 3: I don't have no rings. I get it. Oh, by

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Speaker 3: the way, and I was about to say I got

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Speaker 3: one play. Today's anniversary of that play thirteen years ago

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Speaker 3: San Francisco game, is it. Yeah, that's what we're celebrating

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Speaker 3: here as well. But I've been around enough football and

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Speaker 3: I've always had I've always been blessed to have the

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Speaker 3: pleasure to have access to If I don't know something,

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Speaker 3: I can pick up the phone and call a three

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Speaker 3: times Foot Bowl champion. I can pick up the phone

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Speaker 3: and call a a quarterback who was a good friend

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Speaker 3: of mine who played fifteen years in the National Football

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Speaker 3: League as a starter, you know, not a starter, but

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Speaker 3: has some starting you can find out running back. I

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Speaker 3: got resourced. So when I don't know anything, but I

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Speaker 3: look at this team, I'm just like we are. I

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Speaker 3: think that we are in a bigger fight this week

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Speaker 3: than we were last week. That was that was more

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Speaker 3: like I thought, and I didn't like the way. I

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Speaker 3: didn't like what Zimmers said the other day in the

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Speaker 3: press conference. He said like they was running some sets

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Speaker 3: that we didn't quite see on film, And I was like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how the hell you didn't see it

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Speaker 3: on film, because I came here the other day and

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Speaker 3: was like, well, last week, I was like, man, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna run twelve and twenty one and twenty two. Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you didn't see all these persons

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Speaker 3: they was running out there and you weren't prepared for it.

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Speaker 3: But the guys in that locker room have a really,

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Speaker 3: really tough decision to make. Like it's a man in

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Speaker 3: the mirror type game right here, because if you allow

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Speaker 3: this team offensively the Cowboys offensively, if you allow this

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Speaker 3: defense to dominate you in the trenches, we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot of sad faces on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's take our last break. When we come back, Nate,

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Speaker 6: I have two questions for you about the offensive line.

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Speaker 6: I need you to be engaged. I need you, I

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Speaker 6: need you to put the wing down, and I need

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Speaker 6: you to answer.

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Speaker 1: Give me a good.

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Speaker 6: Solid offensive lineman will up brother when we come back

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Speaker 6: on hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 1: All right, Nate have a question for you.

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Speaker 6: Two questions. One one is about uh Cooper BB. You

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Speaker 6: know Kurt likes pff right. They have him ranked sixth

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Speaker 6: amongst centers in past blocking, which is pretty solid, but

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Speaker 6: he's twenty second in run blocking. What does he need

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Speaker 6: to do to get that run blocking up?

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Speaker 1: What? Why can maintain his block?

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Speaker 6: What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 7: When you get on a guy, you and this guy

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Speaker 7: start moving, you can't let him escape or you can't

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Speaker 7: let him push you back. You gotta maintain your block.

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Speaker 7: Either stay on the line of scrimmage or push him back.

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Speaker 1: But you got to stay on.

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Speaker 6: Is that a strength or a technique thing?

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Speaker 7: It's both strength and technique. He just gotta used to

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Speaker 7: get playing against grown men.

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Speaker 6: What what is it about the league where huge men

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Speaker 6: like Tyler Geyton right, are the strength and conditioning programs

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Speaker 6: that much different different?

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Speaker 1: What gives you the man?

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Speaker 7: No, No one is a man. One is a man.

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Speaker 7: Okay is playing against a man and the other one

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Speaker 7: is playing against When you are offensive lineman and you

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Speaker 7: are an elite offensive lineman in the college.

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Speaker 1: Ranks, you just like that wide receive.

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Speaker 7: You may pay one or two guys that are equal

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Speaker 7: to your talent, not better than you, but just equal

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Speaker 7: to your talent.

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Speaker 1: The other nine you just grinding up.

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Speaker 7: They just get They are just getting through the game,

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Speaker 7: and you are just having fun. You come on this

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Speaker 7: level here where everybody is more athletically inclined in you defensively,

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Speaker 7: and you're gonna play guys that are not only physically

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Speaker 7: equal to you, are better, but they got the mental game.

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Speaker 7: They know where their gaps at, they know where the

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Speaker 7: responsibilities at, and I.

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Speaker 6: Get all that part. It just seems like usually with

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Speaker 6: the offensive lineman especially, it takes them a year to

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Speaker 6: get that stand you up, stop you strength better.

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Speaker 7: What they what they learn is how to play with intensity, longer, endurance,

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Speaker 7: more thinking more.

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Speaker 1: You say, you get it.

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Speaker 7: But you don't get it because I just gave you

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Speaker 7: the exact ample of playing against boys versus men. You

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Speaker 7: don't get it, and they don't get it, but they

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Speaker 7: will get.

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Speaker 3: To put it in layman's terms. Those kids in college,

657
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Speaker 3: they worried about exams and partying. You're dealing with dudes

658
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: in the league. I keep I touch it. Before I

659
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 3: got a mortgage, I got car payments, responsibilities. I got

660
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: a wife, a girlfriend, and a baby mama. They all

661
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: gotta eat. I got kids in private school. I'm playing

662
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: a little We're playing a different game.

663
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: Here and giving you a little more.

664
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Speaker 3: And then you get into that manuscript and the men

665
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: that are watching you get it. You understand. You get

666
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: to a certain point and you just you know what

667
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: I mean, Like I said, the coconuts dropped and that

668
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: manustrep is a little different. And then it's then what

669
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: comes into play is it's understanding the small minute details. Right,

670
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: Like I know, if I can, if I could get

671
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: that upfield shoulder, you can't match, like even if even

672
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 3: if we're tied in strength, but I get a I

673
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: get a step advantage on you. I win because now

674
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna wall you off or I'm gonna turn

675
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: you and I'm gonna do all those little things to

676
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: you that you don't really know about. But it's a difference.

677
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: It's a difference between young men who are coming into

678
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 3: this league and then dealing with some established veterans who've

679
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: been around for a while. When them coconuts dropped and

680
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: you you you, you, you've been in those trenches for

681
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: a little while. There's a huge difference.

682
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an example.

683
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Speaker 7: Okay, you're gonna wrestle with your son and he's about eighteen,

684
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 7: and you're gonna stop wrestling with it because he's gonna

685
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 7: beat me.

686
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

687
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 6: Well I'm also gonna be seventy eight when he too,

688
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 6: because he's gonna break my head.

689
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

690
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 7: So you know, I want to get some guys and uh,

691
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 7: in my younger days.

692
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I'm more athletics.

693
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 7: I got this dude. You know, he wasn't John Romder,

694
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 7: he wasn't drone By. I got this dude.

695
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: He's hanging with me, hanging with me.

696
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 7: But it's those little techniques knowing that, Okay, I can

697
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 7: play this outside on big news, real heavy, because I

698
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 7: got I got a lineback and fell it right here

699
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 7: in this gap so I can sit down outside of him.

700
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 7: I just got to get there quick enough, you know.

701
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 7: And so he's just knowing who you are and what

702
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 7: you're doing. And then if they ask you to do

703
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 7: one thing on defense, like sometimes you can see on

704
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 7: this film where they acts number fifty eight, Hey man,

705
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 7: just jam this guy and he would. I mean, that's

706
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 7: all he'll do. He'll jam this guy knowing that there's

707
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 7: no way the guard can move him because he doesne

708
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 7: knock the center back a yard.

709
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: So it's no matter what this guard do, he can't win.

710
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: He can't.

711
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 7: He can't let the center get up to the next level.

712
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 7: He can't get up to the next level. That remember

713
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 7: Dash trying to say, all Marzie has to do is

714
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 7: take the center back one yard and it's nothing the

715
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 7: guards can do.

716
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: But for some reason he won't listen to me.

717
00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 6: Then the other question I have for you?

718
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: Will kill?

719
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 6: This guy's name? O de fay O Way his name?

720
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

721
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: He nice.

722
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 6: He's rated fifth as an edge rusher. So there we

723
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 6: go again. Right. It seems like every week you're up

724
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Speaker 6: against an edge rusher and then their nose tackle. Travis

725
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 6: Jones is ranked eleventh among the interior linemen. So here's

726
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 6: your two rookies again, BB and guiding going against two studs.

727
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: Good luck.

728
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 6: How do you? How are you chipping? Or you like,

729
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 6: what are we doing this week?

730
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: Everything?

731
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 7: Centers and guards work together more than anybody on the

732
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 7: offensive line. The tackling guard they work okay, but the

733
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Speaker 7: centers and guards work together a lot depending on See

734
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 7: this team runs a three four and if you give

735
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 7: them a spread look, then they'll go into a kind

736
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Speaker 7: of a four man front with three linebackers off at

737
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 7: different angles depending on They don't want you to get leveraged.

738
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Speaker 7: But this team will even give you a little bit

739
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 7: of over and on it. It's called reduced look where

740
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 7: they'll take the tackle and put over the center, where

741
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 7: they'll put the in over the guard, over the guard,

742
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 7: and ain't down on one of these linebackers. She'll give

743
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 7: you like a five man look. Uh, you just have

744
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 7: to be in coordination with one another. And I think

745
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 7: they're gonna try to isolate one on one. I think

746
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 7: this team will try to isolate five men across when

747
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 7: I'm being a linebacker trying to make everybody seeking everybody

748
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 7: hold up. You know you can run your motions across.

749
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 7: When you got five men rushing, somebody gonna be left alone. Somebody, Well,

750
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 7: four guys gonna be left alone. You're making help one

751
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 7: before guys gonna be left alone. And they're pretty tough many.

752
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 7: This is a this is a nice squad.

753
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 6: So Jesse. If the Cowboys do decide to say, Okay,

754
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 6: we're gonna we're gonna beat them with the pass and

755
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 6: not run like you you suggested, you're not gonna you know,

756
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 6: CD's not gonna have two hundred and fifty yards by himself.

757
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: Why not? Why not?

758
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 6: Well, he's gonna have to have somebody to support it,

759
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 6: to at least take the attention off of him a

760
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 6: little bit. Who who do you think can step up

761
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 6: and be that guy? Is it Brandon Cooks?

762
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 9: Is it?

763
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: Jayalen Tobert?

764
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 6: Is it Jalen Brooks?

765
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Speaker 3: Is it?

766
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Speaker 1: You know?

767
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 6: If what's the word on Ferguson? Is there any update

768
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 6: on him?

769
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: This week?

770
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 9: He's working out, you know, so he's looking good.

771
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 6: He could be big in this game, right You need

772
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 6: him across the middle route.

773
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: You need him? You wouldn't you need them? You like

774
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: to have them, you'd like to have him in your

775
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: arsenal but and maybe this is me.

776
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 6: I like that answer, though, why not? Why not?

777
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: I mean, this is what we special, this will be

778
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: paid you for, this is this is you? You want

779
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: to be in that conversation, if this is what requires

780
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: of you, Like you might have to have one of

781
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: those t o one of those Brandon Marshall type games

782
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: where where Alvin Johnson Alvin Johnson or Cooper Cup where

783
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: where you get twenty one targets, Like you might have

784
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: to have one of those games. And I wouldn't be mad,

785
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: because why not? And I'll set you ask me who?

786
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: And I'm I say this jokingly, but I say this

787
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: in a serious manner as well, because it's gonna support

788
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 3: my narrative and I'm gonna try to push his narrative

789
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: till I cannot push this narrative anymore, so that when

790
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: I go, so that when I go the opposite way,

791
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: no one can't say, oh you hating Jess Jaylen Tobert

792
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 3: my boy, like, you had some good plays last week.

793
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: You led the team in targets last week with nine

794
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: six catches for eighty something yards. Eighty nine yards. Let's go,

795
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: let's go, like this is one of those games where

796
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: I need you to have another couple of those six

797
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: catches for seventy five to two one hundred yards. I

798
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: need you to make those plays. I need you not

799
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 3: to be like Saday's code with the one that you dropped,

800
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: how to put you over one hundred, but be aggressed

801
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: to the ball like the one that you caught that

802
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: was underthrown, like that energy I need from you. Tom

803
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 3: Brady already kind of buried Jalen Brooks last week. Todd

804
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: Brady like, listen, I wouldn't throw them anymore today, not today,

805
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: So you know, and that's a real quarterback stought process.

806
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: You know, when especially when you're a game, when you're

807
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: in a dogfight. It's one thing when we up two

808
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: scores and twelve fifteen points and I'm like, all right,

809
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: come on, let's spread this thing around. You'll get a pass,

810
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 3: and you'll get a pass and you'll get a pass.

811
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 1: Boy.

812
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: When that thing get and that thing get tight, and

813
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 3: now I need a play. I'm not trying to figure

814
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: out if Jalen Brooks is ready or not for this moment.

815
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: That's what led to the interception in the second half,

816
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: because like, hey, through Hella high Ward, I'm going to

817
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: eighty eight. But Jalen Brooks, Jalen Brooks, I'm sorry, excuse me,

818
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: Jalen Tobert. This is you're getting another opportunity to ring

819
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: the bell, to say I'm here, I've arrived. You know,

820
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: I know Brandon Cooks is still a good player. You

821
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: know he's older. Brandon Cooks isn't as fluid as people

822
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: want to make him out to be. Not a fluid god,

823
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: not a really good route runner. Fast, still fast. But

824
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: I need, Jalen Tobert. I need the athletics them. I

825
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 3: need the catch radius, I need the speed. I need

826
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: all of that. I need everything that made you out

827
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: of South Alabama, Alabama State, or whatever the hell you

828
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: came from. I need all those things that they saw

829
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: is intangible to take you from a small school in

830
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: the third round and put you a part of this

831
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: football team like this is. This is when we need.

832
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 7: That fellas Jesse, you sounded great?

833
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: Why not? And fifty yards?

834
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 7: Why if I can remember all those in all those

835
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 7: great players you name, when they had all them great yards,

836
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 7: they lost. They lost because they didn't have no assists.

837
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 7: They didn't have nobody around them.

838
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: The help.

839
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 7: We got to have some people around the help so

840
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 7: you can take all Yeah, no, we can't. One hundred

841
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 7: and seventy yes, two touchdown, three touchdown, Yes, somebody else

842
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 7: got to do something because.

843
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 9: This is out of the game. Last week in the.

844
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: Second half, noticed he caught that big he ran a touchdown.

845
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: That was it. They're like, that's it, and and.

846
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: Some teacher go do that. In the future, they're gonna say,

847
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 3: we're not threatened by anybody in the backfield, so we're

848
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: not committing God's line of scrimmage. Yes, we're gonna double

849
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: eighty eight. So that's what I'm saying. Ten Otober, help me,

850
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 3: help you, my boy. I don't want to turn on you.

851
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna help you by shutting the show down. Sorry,

852
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 6: can go eat some wingstop finish these wings off fellas,

853
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 6: good stuff.

854
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 11: Tomorrow Defense, Thank you, Man Ravens offense, Cowboys, what lo

855
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 11: Cowboys Defense. We're gonna talk off the airbody, Chris, thanks

856
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 11: for keeping us on the air.

857
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 6: Josh and Jazz, thanks for keeping Chris company. We'll be

858
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 6: back tomorrow, same time, same place, hanging with the boys.

859
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 3: Steve, Thank you, my boy.

860
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 6: We out.

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Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

862
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,600
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