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Speaker 1: the most bitter rivalry in the PAC twelve. Should that

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Speaker 1: all the games for week eight. I'm George Rice Stir

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Speaker 1: with Ralph Ampston and this is the Pact twelve. The posible.

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Speaker 1: Ralph's social media is on fire this week in the

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Speaker 1: Fact twelve, I love it. You got recruits going at it. Well,

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Speaker 1: first let's start with your boy, Mike Leach. I feel

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Speaker 1: like you like some kind of way voodoo or drum

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Speaker 1: leachs just just tweeting away about everything except for football,

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Speaker 1: tweeting about California's homeless problem, the beaches, all of this,

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Speaker 1: Is fat dumb? What what all did did he call him? Fat? Dumb? Lazy? Title? Think?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't I just I gotta laugh out

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Speaker 1: So Mike Leach is oh and three in the PAC twelve. Um,

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Speaker 1: this is some serious chip on your shoulder. I'm a

427
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: therapy for this like thing like this right, there's imagine

428
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 1: imagine imagine the weight of your last name, Like I

429
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: have my dad's name, you have your dad's name, right, yeah,

430
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: Like and I'm you're the third, I'm the fourth, like

431
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: you just you carry that weight with you of like

432
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: who these people are. Imagine they're the greatest ever and

433
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: their public figures. You know, I'm watching Succession right now

434
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: and look at all the problems and their dad is there.

435
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: So imagine if if your dad basically because you said

436
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: he hadn't had a relationship with his dad, Like, imagine,

437
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: have you seen him on TV every day and everybody

438
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: wants to talk to him. Everybody wants to talk to

439
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: you about him, And you're like, dude, like that man? Yeah,

440
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: and so and And Chad Johnson Jr. Is maybe in

441
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: kind of a similar situation. They have more of a relationship,

442
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: but Chad Johnson Jr. Is more comfortable leaning into it, right,

443
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: Brendan not so much. Like he just very recently spent

444
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: time with Jerry Jr. For the first time out on

445
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: his visit to Michigan. He just very recently, you know,

446
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: Jerry was in town to watch Larry Fitzgerald. Um, I

447
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: break one of his records or get closer to one

448
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: of his records or something like that. And so he's

449
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: got time to go watch Larry Larry fitz Fitzgerald and

450
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: honor Larry Gerald. But then so well he used that

451
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: to also swing by his son's game, so like he

452
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: was already in town to do this other thing. So

453
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: then he swung in. But you know, you know, Brendan

454
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: has a good family down here and everything like that,

455
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: so he's he's fine, He's all good. But it's just like,

456
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: just imagine the weight. And so I've always that's so

457
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: late to me that that like you didn't you yep,

458
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden that now there's your sons,

459
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: the four star recruit and and other people realized that

460
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: this is your kid. Now all of a sudden, you

461
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: look stupid, you're embarrassed, and now like, oh yeah, I'm

462
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: embrace hive. Now if I were, if I were Brandon,

463
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: I'd be like yeah, nah, bro like like I like

464
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: I would. It would take a lot of damn effort

465
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: on your part, a lot of damn effort. And I

466
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: don't know if I can ever trust a relationship. I

467
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: will say this, I've been very protective of of rending

468
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: in his time down here and will continue to because

469
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: as somebody who didn't really have a really good relationship

470
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: with my dad and always wanted a good one and

471
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: fought for it, and now my dad is my best

472
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: friend in the world. Like everybody wants their situation to

473
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: to you know, everyone wants to come out whole, And

474
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure he has the same mindset, Like the ideal

475
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: thing for him would be for everything to be good,

476
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have control ringing that situation. So anyway,

477
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: there's just all this weight on him his last name.

478
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: He has a chance to go build a new thing

479
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: in Colorado. I think that that appeals to him. And

480
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: Chat Johnson Junior says he comes out and tweets, steals

481
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: the shine off the commitment immediately and says competition be

482
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: having dudes running for their lots, which I wish he

483
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: played dB right now. I wish one of him was

484
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: a corner and one of them was a wide receiver

485
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: because this would be an epic battle. Do uh do

486
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: do I you want to tell or or or not?

487
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: Because if if so, I'll cut it out. If not,

488
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: about Tyler Tyler shug or no oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

489
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: so like, I mean, it's I know, it's it's so

490
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: it's always been sort of a strange situation because Tyler

491
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Schuck was Brendan Rice quarterback who is who is now

492
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: Oregon's backup quarterback who came from Arizona. Yeah. Yeah, And

493
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: and Tyler Schuck was originally I think committed to North

494
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: Carolina a s U was super late on offering him.

495
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: But I think Tyler has family and Eugene going back

496
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: to where like he had a relative help build the

497
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: stadium or something. So he goes to Oregon. Tyler Shuck

498
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: goes to Oregon and he's actively recruiting Brendan Rice, you know,

499
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: the whole time. Um, they're still really good friends. I

500
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: thought that Oregon had a pretty good shot at Brendon

501
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: the whole time. But Tyler was part of the whole

502
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: alee Levin thing and Elite eleven special guests that they

503
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: brought out to catch passes from these quarterbacks was Jerry Rice.

504
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: So Brendon So Brendan and Jerry didn't really have a relationship,

505
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: but Brendan's high school quarterback was out in Washington throwing

506
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: passes to his dad. Uh, And I mean that they

507
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: had just made for a kind of a really awkward

508
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: um all around situation. But since that point, since Brendan,

509
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: Rice's high school quarterback was out there throwing passes, Jerry,

510
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: Jerry has been a little more present and they've spoke

511
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: and Jerry will actually tweet about Brendon every once in

512
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: a while. Um, and I tell you what we Arizona.

513
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: Arizona is filled with athletes like this because you know,

514
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: this is off scene, offseason training place, this is spring training.

515
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: There are a lot of kids of athletes in aras

516
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: ownA who aren't necessarily part of their uh core family group.

517
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: Um you know, I mean they're like there are quite

518
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: a few. Um you know, a SU has got a

519
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: couple of them on their roster as well, in like

520
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Johnson, whose dad, you know, Bill Johnson played for

521
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: the Bills. You know, we got Gary Sheffield junior down here.

522
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: We gotta we just it's it's a very common issue

523
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: in Arizona because people come to it. Yeah, unfortunately, this

524
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: is um dudes who don't take care of their kids.

525
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: Because I'm I'm a we we have a blended family

526
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: situation and on one and to to not get too

527
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, off the beaten pack twelve path. But I like, okay,

528
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: so having a difficult situation with a baby mama, child's

529
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: mother or whatever, would have what would ever term you prefer.

530
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: It's a difficult task because I was always a guy

531
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: who wanted even a better relationship more and more and more, right,

532
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: try try to make it work with their mom all this,

533
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: and it didn't. And there were times and my my mind,

534
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: you my kids are with me half the time at least,

535
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: right at least, so I am always like there were

536
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: a couple of times when they were younger that I

537
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: wanted to that I that I thought about quitting, that

538
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: I thought about, look, this is so difficult, Like it's

539
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: like I'm always having to take you to court, Like

540
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: this is just so difficult. I understand that that's not

541
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: the same situation for some of these other guys because

542
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: they just didn't even try. But and but now my

543
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: relationship with them, I mean, because if if your kids

544
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: are with you more than half the time, then it's

545
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: totally different and we have a great relationship all of this.

546
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: So it's on one on one hand, I get where

547
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: sometimes people can it because they feel weak in this situations,

548
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: but also like they feel weak and powerless and don't

549
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: know how to do it. But also on the other hand,

550
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is your kid, Like you have to

551
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: fight for this, like this should be important to you

552
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: and you have time to be Like and my nephew

553
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: is in the same situation, Like this kid it was

554
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: has isn't is a great athlete. He is an actor,

555
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: like he was on agency shield for a long time.

556
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: He's been on commercial Like if you've watched television, you

557
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: see my nephew and his dad lives within ten miles

558
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: of him, probably and has seen him all of three

559
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: times since his fourth birthday probably, and it hasn't in

560
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: a few years. And it's just lame, Like I just

561
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: don't get it, Like and the kids such a wonderful kid.

562
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: I just and it makes me so angry because I

563
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: actually my my best friend who passed away. Um he

564
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: was having uh he was he had a kid and

565
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: they were kind of going through some stuff and then

566
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: he kind of stopped fighting in this situation and didn't

567
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: see him for a couple of months. And I was

568
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: cool with his X and he stopped and so it

569
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: actually but but our relationship changed when they broke up.

570
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: But at the same time. It made me angry, and

571
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: me and my best friend stopped talking for a little

572
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: little bit because I was like, listen, I don't respect that,

573
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't hang out with people to do this,

574
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: so you know, so you know, so if if if

575
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: you want help fixing it, I will help you because

576
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: I've been through this. But if that's not what you're

577
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: gonna do, then you know, like, we're cool, but we're

578
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: not cool like that. We're not gonna be hanging out

579
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: and all that. And when I was growing up. When

580
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: I was growing up, there's the two biggest villains in

581
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: the entire world, two biggest villains. I mean, it wasn't

582
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, like a cartoon villain. Wasn't shreddering

583
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: ninja turtles. There were two kinds of villains that you

584
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: never ever wanted to become. One was Will Smith's dad

585
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: from Fresh Prince. Oh my god, that was the greatest

586
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: episode there was. Yeah, you didn't want to yep, you

587
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: never wanted to grow up to cause your son to

588
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: have that kind of reaction like and then all the

589
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: kids watching that who could identify with it, like that

590
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: imprinted on them forever. The other thing that you never

591
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: ever wanted to be was Robin Williams in Hook, where

592
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: you get so into your adult life that you forget

593
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: not only what it was like to be a kid,

594
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: but that at one point you were you were the kid, right,

595
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: Like those two things you never wanted to be. You

596
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: never wanted to be a present father who wasn't actually

597
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: present in spirit, and you never wanted to be an

598
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: absentee father. Like those were the two biggest villains in

599
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: the entire world. So it is really hard to to

600
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: respect anybody who fell into either the trap of working

601
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: so hard that they're never around their kids or just

602
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: choosing to be at all. Like those things are those

603
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: things are really really hard to swallow. And like, now

604
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: that we're adults, you realize how personal family businesses. But

605
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: it is so but it's still really hard for me

606
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: to not like call out some of these because I

607
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: work around high school football players all the time, to

608
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: call out some of these dads, because you know that,

609
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: And I would much rather you be a dad who's

610
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: in the stands yelling at the refs, you know, which

611
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: is also another kind of villain, uh, than than be

612
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: one of those other two things. For sure. Yeah, so yeah,

613
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: so we we can move on to the to the

614
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: to the next thing, because this is just I mean,

615
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: it makes my blood boil. But speaking of my blood boiling,

616
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: though it is Husky Week, it is Oregon versus Washington,

617
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: and most people don't know because every I mean outside

618
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: of the pack twelve people have no idea how much

619
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: bad blood flows in this rivalry. Like it is one

620
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: of the least civil in all the college football people

621
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: think that. So so many times people ask me, oh,

622
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: do you hate Oregon State? I'm like, no, I don't

623
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: hate Oregon State. Like how can you hate somebody that's

624
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: like kind of non threatening to you. I mean, it's

625
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: and like, for the most part, they're cool, cool people,

626
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: you're around them, you're in the state, Like it's not

627
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: that big of a deal. But do you feel like

628
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: that's more insulting though, Like that feels more insulting. Okay,

629
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: so Oregon State fans hate Oregon more than Oregon hates

630
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: Oregon State, if that makes sense. Yeah, I just I

631
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, somebody just comes out with their

632
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: chest puffed out and you're just like, oh, that's cute,

633
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: like that it feels that feels more insulting to me

634
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: than actually engaging in the rivalry. Oh well, I guess

635
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I guess that is the case, because I did say

636
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: that they were non threatening, so, um but but the

637
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: Washington Oregon rivalry, like it is the least civil, And

638
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: I tweeted out, I said, was it Kenny Wheaton's interception

639
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: in ninety four that started the hatred or something else?

640
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: And then also the fact that the game should have

641
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: a name, and I found out all sorts of history

642
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: that I did not know that. Um so that so

643
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: at first Oregon Oregon was not a very good football team,

644
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: not it was not a good sports team, all of

645
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: this stuff. But then in the like nineties, starting in

646
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: not ninety four, everything changed, So Washington used to destroy Oregon.

647
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: And but in the last twenty four meetings, I think, uh,

648
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: they've only won six in Oregons won eighteen, including twelve

649
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: in a row. Twelve in a row, so Oregon's Roland.

650
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: Washington even had a defeated season in there where they

651
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: went completely they didn't win one game. So you're sitting

652
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: there like, uh, so that the rivalry grew like massively,

653
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: and so I thought that that's when it started. But

654
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: apparently no, that it started in nineteen that the schools

655
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: began playing in nineteen hundred. But the what when when

656
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: Oregon and Cal both went undefeated uh in the Pacific

657
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: Coast Conference and then Washington voted to send Cal to

658
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: the Bowl game instead of Oregon. So that was the

659
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: first draw. And then the second thing was when they

660
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: broke up the Pacific Coast Conference. Washington voted to break

661
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: up the Pacific Coast Conference and then leave Oregon out

662
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: of the new conference. So this is how this rivalry

663
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,959
Speaker 1: was born. This is where the hate started. But Ralph,

664
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: shouldn't this game have a name like the Red River

665
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Shootout or or Showdown, which everyone is really correct to you.

666
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: You you got the Georgia Florida Game, which is the

667
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: greatest outdoor cocktail party in all the land, even though

668
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: it's dry. Now you have, you know, you have, we got,

669
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: we got, we got our territorial Cup there. Yeah, so

670
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: what like? And I put it out on Twitter and

671
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: I actually got some really good names and the two

672
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: best names that I got, I mean, I got everything

673
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: from They were like, oh, it's the Border War. I

674
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: was like, that doesn't feel so great in two thousand ninety's,

675
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: So why border border war is border war is wyom

676
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: in Colorado state you already got, we already got. Missouri

677
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: Kansas is called the border war. Okay, Okay, I'll give

678
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: them because they're they're power five. But I grew up

679
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: with because they're forty miles apart. So I grew up

680
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: with the Laramie and uh and Fort Collins being the

681
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: border War. But so no, I don't think it should

682
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: be anything that anybody already has. It should have it.

683
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: So somebody names that I got where the Battle of

684
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: I five, the Northwest Territory Cup, the Forest Forestry Cup,

685
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: I got the um m hmm, I got the Cascade Clash,

686
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: and then you had all the type type of people hating.

687
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 1: Oh it's the no one cares bold and but out

688
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: of all like the fifty or sold names I got,

689
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: the two best ones I got were a the Cannabis

690
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: Cup and the Corporation's Cup. I like the corporations cup

691
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: because you've got Nike, Starbucks, Microsoft, Costco, Boeing. It'd be

692
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: it'd be good to have the Corporation's Cup. Yeah, yeah,

693
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: I guess I'm sure you'd have some pushback from you know,

694
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: all of Portland Antifa or whatever. I don't know, you never.

695
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've got some anarchists something there that would

696
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: hate that. But I don't know. I just I like

697
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: the idea of, like, of it being nameless. Um, as

698
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: long as that's the name, if you have to, if

699
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: you have the ability to trademark that in some way,

700
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: or like just the rivalry without a name, or or

701
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: something along those lines, or the or call it the

702
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: grunge match instead of grudge match because of Seattle. Yeah.

703
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: But the problem is is that this rivalry is so

704
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: nasty that that the people couldn't even agree on a name.

705
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,479
Speaker 1: Now they would they would be mad if they thought

706
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: it came from the from the other school and then

707
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: not acknowledge it. Um. I just read a story though

708
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: Ralph as we're doing this podcast. It's a tragic story

709
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: and it's a crazy story. But I like this. I

710
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: want Pack twelve Fast to be more like this. Okay,

711
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: I Alabama fan called it a bomb threat. He got

712
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: arrested for calling it a bomb threat to l s U.

713
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and my mind. You Alabama Auburn fans

714
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: that one of them killed the tree. No, no, no, no,

715
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: you know an Alabama fan killed killed the uh the

716
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: big huge, oldest tree I think in in the in

717
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: the state because it was on Alabama's campus and I

718
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: liked it, like this is what packed twelve fans need,

719
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: this sort of crazy fanaticism, right yeah, I mean, I

720
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: mean there there are there are certain things that I

721
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: think that would be a pretty good try. I mean,

722
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: I think it'd be funny for um, you know U

723
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: s c U C l A, just because there's always

724
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: tickets available. I think it's really funny for the opposing

725
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: team to just pack the stadium out or whatever. But

726
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: there there are certain things. You know, A s UU

727
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: is very very nasty and like super aggressive, and that

728
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: that makes me wonder if I would love to put

729
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: those two next to each other. And I think that

730
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: one is probably more relevant because either Washington or Oregon

731
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: is usually you know, in competition for a conference championship,

732
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: and so I think the relevance is there. But just

733
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: as far as like overall dick ishness, you know, I

734
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: feel like a su versus you of A would give

735
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: it a run for its money because it's not I mean,

736
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: there's no it's just like gone in sixty seconds speed

737
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: of like going from Hey, good morning, to go f

738
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: yourself like and so, I don't know, I would be

739
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: really really interested to hear from the listeners to this

740
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: podcast what they think the nastiest rivalry in the Pack

741
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: twelve is, and if we have done a good enough

742
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: job of sort of forcing whole Utah Colorado thing to happen,

743
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: because I know that Colorado doesn't necessarily have like an

744
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: in conference rivals, so we've always just like said, hey,

745
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: we'll make it Utah. I just I'd love to hear

746
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: from them, because I know Utah a s u U

747
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: Tah Utah fans and a FU fans are very especially

748
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: on game week, They're so nasty to each other. I

749
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: woke up yesterday morning and I just tweeted a bunch

750
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 1: of photos of like, you know, Benjamin on his visit

751
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: to Utah, and like anytime anyone mentioned that, like Utah

752
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: is getting Jadeen Daniels, he's definitely gonna commit. I retweeted

753
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: every single one of those tweets just to see people

754
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: fight in my mentions, and and but that feels very

755
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: reserved to the one week that they play. Um, I

756
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: think it really does probably come down to Oregon Washington,

757
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: which has the relevance because of one is always good

758
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: or or a s U. You have a where you know,

759
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 1: people are fist fighting in the streets and whatnot. So

760
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I wish that we had more

761
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: rivalries in the Pact twelve. Like I I don't know

762
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: about calling and bomb threats or whatever, but I definitely

763
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: wish that there were that. You know, Cal cal Stanford.

764
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the intellectual rival it seems it

765
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: seems to to tame. But U c L a USC

766
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: is very heated too. I do not want to dismiss that. Yeah,

767
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: it is he like, it's heated to the point where

768
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, like what like what Like

769
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: you you pull up next to somebody on the street

770
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: and you know, you both had your convertible top down,

771
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: and you see that someone's got a USC shirt on,

772
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: so that you pull your top up. I don't like,

773
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't see the nastiness and I don't all right,

774
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: so let me let me tell you how crazy this

775
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: rivalry is. Rodney Pete, right, Rodney pet who played at

776
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: us USC. He's married to Holly Robinson. Peach is the

777
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: Arizona boy to Alhama high. Yeah, so he was going

778
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 1: to So they had their second or third baby being

779
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: being do um. They were somewhere and they were somewhere

780
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: in l A. And she goes into labor but like

781
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: not like labor, not you know, starting labor, and this

782
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: is like no babies getting ready to come labor. And

783
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: so they took her to u c l A Hospital,

784
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: which is a really good hospital. All this Rodney goes,

785
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: how long do we have before the baby comes? They

786
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: were like maybe an hour or so. He was like good,

787
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: because we have time to leave this hospital and go

788
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: to Cedar Sinai, which is like twenty My kid will

789
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: not be born in this there in a u c

790
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: l A hospital, even though his kid had attended camp

791
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: at u c l A before, Like he was like

792
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: or taking a class at u c l A. But no,

793
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: he would not have a kid born in at u

794
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: c l A hospital. And my wife went to u

795
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: c l A and she doesn't fool with anything usc

796
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: Like no, it's a lot more heated than people realize.

797
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: And you either on the one side of defense or

798
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: the or the other. Like I've had people to be

799
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: like no, no, no no, no, no, you can't come and

800
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: come right here with that shirt on. Dude, Well if

801
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: he if he really did jump from hospital of the hospital,

802
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: and he probably wouldn't appreciate the fact that on this

803
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: podcast I just told him that you went to the

804
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: wrong high school in Arizona. He's an amphitheater kid, not

805
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: a not an al kid. Yeah, all right, Well let's

806
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: break down the games, Ralph. We can start with U.

807
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: C l A. Stanford. So you have two teams that

808
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: are you know, that looked to be not having a

809
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: good season, but Stanford bounced back in a major way

810
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: versus Washington, and you got U. C l A. Whose

811
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: offense is significantly better over the last three games. They're

812
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: averaging I think over like five yards the game versus

813
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: two sixty in the first three games. I mean, Stanford's

814
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: got to choose who they're gonna have at quarterback kJ

815
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: Costello or whether they're gonna stick with the kid Davis Mills,

816
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: who clearly seems to be out playing him. I is

817
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: it as clear? I feel like I hear you say

818
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: that it's clear right here? Wood, He will Max say

819
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: that it's clear to me, It's not. It's not as

820
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: cut and dry as that. I didn't feel like, maybe

821
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: it's just that kJ Costello was banged up. You know,

822
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: he took that enormous hit that no one ever got

823
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: in trouble for, and and you know, maybe he's just

824
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: been a little loopy. But I felt like his play

825
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: was the exact I feel like it's the exact same.

826
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe as you said, yeah, yees, yes, you're

827
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: you're correct. And I remember before the season, Herm Edwards

828
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: said like, if a younger quarterback is playing the same

829
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: as an older quarterback, what reason do you have to

830
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: stick the older quarterback? So I get that, you know,

831
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: the most popular guy on the team is is usually

832
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. Um, but I don't feel like k J.

833
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: Costello has done anything to really lose the job. I

834
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: think you give him one more. It is time to

835
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: turn the page. I mean it it is. I agree

836
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: with Witty Womack on the last podcast, it's time for

837
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: like a kid from Stanford is the only school, is

838
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: the only Power five school that's never had a kid

839
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: in the transfer portal portal. And there's a reason why,

840
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: because they really want to Stanford Education. But if your

841
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: k kJ Costello, maybe you go to Northwestern, Maybe you

842
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: go to Duke. I mean, get it, get a good

843
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: education somewhere else, because this is just not I mean,

844
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: like Cameron Scarlett who couldn't run run the football while

845
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: kJ Costello was in all of a sudden, now he's

846
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: having hundre of yard games. I mean, I don't think

847
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: it's all tied to Davis Mills, but I think that

848
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: you have to give that some sort of you know,

849
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: like that's possible that that adds to it. I mean,

850
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: it's also possible at this point in time that that

851
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: Jack West is the quarterback against U c l A.

852
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: If Jack West is the quarterback ms U c l A,

853
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: do you think that the Bruins have a chance to win.

854
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: I think the Brons have a chance to win with

855
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: Davis Mills at quarterback. Oh what what? Yes, this is

856
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: the same thing that U. C l A did at

857
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: the end of last last year. They they came out terrible,

858
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: They started out owing five. This year, their offense is

859
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: actually better. It's their defense that has people turn it

860
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: turn it down, tackles and all of that. You see,

861
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: they had a bye week, so Dorian Thompson Robinson should

862
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: be back and like they like, this team has to

863
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: be getting better. I I just like my mind will

864
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: just not allow me to like I see the evidence.

865
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: So I've given up on the fact that even know

866
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: they're mathematically still alive for the factor up style, that

867
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: they're not gonna win. But like, Stanford has not been

868
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: playing great football, and even though they had a bye week,

869
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: their prideful they David Shaw does a great job with

870
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: his team in terms of preparation and and fixing things

871
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: apparently because things were going off the rails this season.

872
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: I think that Stanford's favored by seven points, but I'm

873
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this game like this game could really

874
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: go either way. I don't know about that. You're saying

875
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: that like I'm a crazy person. I mean, you're saying

876
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: it's just like last year. But they have yet to

877
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: show that they're progressing yet, and so I mean it

878
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: could be like last year if they do something, but

879
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: they haven't yet. Um, Henry Hattis is out for the

880
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: season for for Stanford and that is one of my

881
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: favorite offer to lineman in the entire pack twelve. So

882
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: that's that's rough for them. But I feel like even

883
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: with a young offensive line, even the Jack West at quarterback,

884
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: they're just gonna run straight at U c l A's

885
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: defense and is not gonna be able to go now

886
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: now if you and now when you add that part

887
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: into it, because U c l A's defense is Swiss cheese, dude,

888
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: like they are, they are terrible. I mean, I don't

889
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: think that people really understand how bad this defense is.

890
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: They're giving up forty points a game. They can't stop

891
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: the run, they can't stop the pass, and most importantly,

892
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: you have so many of their players who in their

893
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: secondary who seemingly turned down tackles like they like like

894
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: they see like you. Um I hear jed like if

895
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: you follow Gerald Alexander, the coach for the DV coach

896
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: for Cal, he always talks about two things. Patients not

897
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: panic when the balls in the air, and that that

898
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: good dbs have patience is that are panic and then

899
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: knock the ball balls way instead of getting past the

900
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: inference calls. And the other thing he talked talks about

901
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: is having contact courage. And these guys as a whole

902
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of contact courage. And I

903
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: mean they're already thin on the offensive side of the ball.

904
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: And THEO Howard announced that he was leaving in the

905
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: middle of the season. So, I mean, I don't know.

906
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't see things going very well

907
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: for U c l A right now. I there, it's

908
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: Demetric Felton and versus everybody is what it looks like

909
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, but doesn't he So he's leading the

910
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: conference in total yards per game. It was like a

911
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: hundred forty seven or something like like that. And but

912
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: the problem is he seemingly is on the sideline so

913
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: much like wouldn't you like I I feel like he

914
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: should be more like Christian McCaffrey was at Stanford, where

915
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: he's your greatest offensive weapon. He's the thing. He's got

916
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: four touchdowns over seventy five yards this year, like he

917
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: should be getting touches the game minimum. Yeah, I mean,

918
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if I I think that, I don't

919
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: know if it translates. I think that if you produced

920
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: because you're like a special package player, because you're the

921
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: secret weapon, then if you get put into the role

922
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: of the every down player, then you know, does that

923
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: take away what you were doing when you were brought

924
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: in in these different packages. Um, maybe now would be

925
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: the time to test it out to see, But I

926
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: don't think that it always translates to like, hey, you know,

927
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: we we find places to get him in and to

928
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: exploit mismatches. Therefore he should be out for every single play.

929
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: You know. I think that USC has shown for a

930
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: really long time that you get these really really talented

931
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: players and it's okay to only play them, you know, snaps,

932
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: because when you're inserting them is when the time that

933
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna shine most. And so, um, I don't know.

934
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, well at this point, why not? Why not? Yeah?

935
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: I get it? And man, so so who are you

936
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: picking in this game? Ro Stanford? I even even if

937
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: it's Jack West, Um, it's got to be Stanford, right,

938
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: I mean you can't. Yeah, why what reason would I

939
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: have to pick U? C l A what? Okay? So

940
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you now, so what are what? What? What

941
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: is our record over the last three weeks in picking games?

942
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: You are six and eight and I'm thirteen and one. Okay, So,

943
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: first thing is, you're kind of weird to me sometimes, Ralpha,

944
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: because you're kind of savage on Twitter, especially because like

945
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: you like you are here for the fight, and it's

946
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: funny because you're like you like teach Sunday school. You're

947
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: such a nice guy. You respect people's feelings, thoughts and

948
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. But then on the other hand,

949
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: is like I love to do the duality where you're

950
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: kind of savage, but then you're thirteen and one. I'm

951
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: six and eight, and you don't want to spike to

952
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: spike the football. It's weird to me because I would

953
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: be spiking the football on your head. This is what

954
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: happens when you win, though, And then I turned into

955
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: Marty shot in Iimer and I'm just trying to I'm

956
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: just trying to hold onto the leaves. Yeah, because they

957
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 1: could go left at any moment, because because I started

958
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: out hot. Boy, I started out hot and then I

959
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: had a week where I went completely over. But this

960
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: this week, because I must catch up, I'm picking U

961
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: c l A okay, And I mean it could happen.

962
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: It could happen. There's if if Stanford doesn't get up

963
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, uh, and they're not up at halftime,

964
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: you know, can they even play catchup? We don't know.

965
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:14,479
Speaker 1: Um okay, Oregon State cow okay. So I thought that

966
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: Oregon State was gonna be able Foolishly, I thought Oregon

967
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: State was gonna be able to um you know, kind

968
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: of hang with Utah a little bit in terms of

969
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: only because they were playing at home. They had just

970
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: had a really good victory against U C. L A.

971
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: Confidence was up there and me and you had raved

972
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: about how their offense was, you know, hygens ltton uh.

973
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: You know in the two running backs, they have been

974
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: able to put twenty eight points on every single team,

975
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 1: and then they play against you talk and just get destroyed.

976
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean just absolutely just taken behind the wood cheat.

977
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: So and Cow's defense is probably more smothering than Utah's defense.

978
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: So I give a book. Provided Monster actually can move

979
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: the ball as Cow's quarterback and he's not a turnover machine.

980
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: I don't see how Oregon's they can win win this game. Cow.

981
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: Cow is only averaging twenty points a game, and their

982
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: favorite by ten and a half points. This lets you

983
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: know everything we need to know. I got Cow, yes,

984
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: And I would like to see one thing from Cal

985
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: in this game that they don't typically exhibit in in

986
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: their games, and that's tempo. I think that you can

987
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: absolutely destroy Origan State with tempo. I think that if

988
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: you go out there and you try to me methodical,

989
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: then you give somebody like Hamakar Rochette a chance to

990
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: get into your backfield. UM. The thing that I'm most excited,

991
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to watch this game because Isaiah Hodgens

992
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: has had success against everybody, UM, and so has Brandon

993
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: I you out of Arizona State. Well, guess what, Brandon I,

994
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: you couldn't get off against Cal. And and I'm really

995
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: curious if Hodgens will have the abilities, because honestly I

996
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: would be I'd be impressed goes off on account like

997
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: everybody has their statistical worst games at a season against Cal.

998
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: What would impress you? What would impress you? Because last

999
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: week he had against Utah, which is a very good

1000
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: secondary as well. Last week against Utah Hodgens who was

1001
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: seven for seventy at the half and finished with like eight,

1002
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah he didn't he did. What would impress you? What

1003
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: would impress you? What? What? Like? What's the minimum he

1004
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: could do against Cal for you to say, like Paul

1005
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: Hodgens had a rapid game that eight eight for seventy

1006
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: catch Okay, I fully agreed. I think if he I

1007
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: mean eight yards receiving is actually pretty good. It's like,

1008
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: over the course of the season, get you a thousand

1009
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: yard season. Um, but I yeah, I would be very

1010
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: if he can get to eighty yards receiving, then that'll

1011
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: just be one more tick in the box of like

1012
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens is. Yeah, yeah, I don't think there's any

1013
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: doubt at this point in point in time. But I

1014
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,479
Speaker 1: mean they got absolutely shut down. And the crazy part

1015
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: about this is is that even though you have all

1016
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, all these quarterbacks in the Pack Pack twelve,

1017
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: and you have all these players with interceptions, you have

1018
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: um uh so many quarterbacks in the conference that have

1019
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: not thrown an interception, they have not thrown or or

1020
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: have only thrown one intercepts. You got Tyler Huntley, uh Slovist, Gordon,

1021
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: Herbert Easton, and Montez all completing at least sixt passes.

1022
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: You Tyler Huntley who was not thrown an interception, Jake

1023
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: Lutton from Oregon State, Justin Herbert, Jayden Daniels, and Davis

1024
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: Mills have all at least attempted a hundred passes and

1025
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: have only thrown one interception. Like, how is this possible?

1026
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: But but four Pack twelve defenses are still amongst the

1027
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: top eleven nationally and interceptions, how does this even make sense. Yeah,

1028
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: that's got a change of the season goes on, right,

1029
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: Like something has to give their either some quarterbacks are

1030
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: gonna start throwing picks, or those numbers or the pack

1031
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: fill just gonna drop out of that completely as everybody

1032
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: else throws picks. Um, that's the biggest theme of this

1033
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: whole season for me has been the amount of quarterbacks

1034
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: that have played and still how efficient they've been. There

1035
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: have been what how many quarterbacks have played? There have been? Yeah,

1036
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: it was at least differently the backs have played this season,

1037
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: but it's not even the same amount as last year.

1038
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: Twenty different quarterbacks started during the season. It felt it

1039
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: felt like a lot a lot more. Um, I'm excited

1040
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: to see how cow does if they can coach Monster

1041
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: up because he didn't look ready, but they had a

1042
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: bye week. That might be the best thing that happened

1043
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: to them. Um. Hey, so we got Colorado versus the

1044
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: Mike leitch is Colorado Washington State is favored by twelve

1045
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: and a half points. Who you got in this game? Yeah?

1046
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: Um that that betting line has got to be a reactionary, right,

1047
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: like they there, It's got to be based off of

1048
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: what happened with Oregon. It really it really feels like

1049
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: that line is um looking at a what like a

1050
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: forty two point loss and saying it just it doesn't

1051
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't make a whole lot of sense me because

1052
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: I think these two teams match up really well. UM.

1053
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: I think it will be a shootout. I think that

1054
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: it will be close. Washington State has done absolutely nothing

1055
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 1: to show you that they can play defense at all.

1056
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: Colorado sort of in the same boat. Um. They both

1057
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: played Arizona State and two similar results on the scoreboard

1058
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. You know, obviously one

1059
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: of the last ones win. UM. But I think that

1060
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: this game will be close. So I think that line

1061
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. UM. And I think the wheels are falling

1062
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: off for Washington State right now. I I'm probably gonna

1063
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: regret this. You're gonna gonna regret this. Like my my,

1064
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't like where Washington State is headed. They're headed

1065
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: in the wrong direction with their coach all that this

1066
01:03:55,240 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: stuff leaches tripping, but their offense is still it's still

1067
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: putting up a whopping forty three points a game, and

1068
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: they're throwing for five hundred and thirty eight yards a game,

1069
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: where on the other side you have, Uh, Colorado's past

1070
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: defense is giving up the tenth most in the conference

1071
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: in three hundred and seven yards a game. So if

1072
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: they're giving up three hundred and seven yards a game,

1073
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: the only two teams that are worse at Arizona and U. C.

1074
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: L A. So how I mean, I just don't see

1075
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: if they already can't stop the pass. And then you

1076
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: add Washington State in who's gonna do nothing but pass

1077
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: because they're lasting the conference in rushing, how are they

1078
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: supposed to stop him? Yeah, okay, I've never done this before,

1079
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: but I'm going to. I'm gonna Oh no, no, Ralph, Ralph,

1080
01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: keep keep Colorado please, I need to win. Okay, So

1081
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: you need us to be on opposite sides. Alright, no no, no, no,

1082
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: no no no. I want you to pick whoever you

1083
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: think is gonna win. Now. I'm just thinking about the

1084
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: fact that like that that I was, I was figuring

1085
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: in that Colorado could keep up offensively, But then the

1086
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: way you talk about it makes me feel like Washington

1087
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: State's not even gonna punt. They may not, I would

1088
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: be surprised. I mean, it's gonna take some drops or

1089
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: some inaccurate throws. From Anthony Gordon. But he's completing it

1090
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: like basses, so I'm not sure that that's really gonna

1091
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna happen. He's completing seventy one of his passes right

1092
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: now for two thousand, six d and twelve yards touchdowns

1093
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: in six picks. I'm gonna stick with Colorado. I'm thinking

1094
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: back to that Houston game and uh, and how unnecessarily

1095
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: that was bad? Yeah, that Washington State Houston game. Yeah,

1096
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: that was unnecessarily close in Houston State. The one thing

1097
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: that Washington is absolutely and I told you this before

1098
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: the s U game, is Washington State cannot handle mobile quarterbacks.

1099
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: And while Colorado does not have that per se, Laviska

1100
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: Tional is finally and they do use him out of

1101
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: the Wildcat quite a bit, so they're gonna see some

1102
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: offensive looks that they're not necessarily used to. Um, I'll

1103
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: stick with Colorado. What the hell? Okay, cool? Cool, I'll

1104
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: take it. Another win in the books for your boy, Um,

1105
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: Arizona USC you got USC favorite by ten points. Um,

1106
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: we don't know who Arizona's quarterback is gonna be because

1107
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: we both think that it's time to give up on

1108
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: not because he may not be the better option. But

1109
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: because like I wrote it in the PAC twelve Power

1110
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: rankings on on Afraid show dot com, make sure you

1111
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: go um about how kylor I don't know what the

1112
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: identity of this Arizona team is, Like do they want

1113
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: to be a a spread option team or do they

1114
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: want to be or do they want to have Grant

1115
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: Cannell in and throw the ball fifty times a game?

1116
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 1: Yep I and they want that. That's what they want,

1117
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: and it's what the fans want now. Um, University of

1118
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: Arizona fans supporters are now all in fighting about what

1119
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: to do with Khalil Tate. They are all ready to

1120
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: move on that. He's always sort of been aloof personality wise.

1121
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: He's been more appealing to the nation as a whole

1122
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: than he has been to actual University of Arizona fans. Um,

1123
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: it's just natural after a loss to want to see

1124
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: what the backup quarterback can do. And he's looked good

1125
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: in the three games that he's played, and if you

1126
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: get to the point where he plays in his fifth game,

1127
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: then you know you're he's not gonna be red shirting

1128
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: at all, and so you know it's it's really decision time.

1129
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 1: The one defense that I've seen of wanting Khalil Tate

1130
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: to play against USC is that like, this game is

1131
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: incredibly important to to Khalil Tate, like this game at

1132
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: USC correct. Okay, So I don't think Khalil Tate got

1133
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: to play in this game, uh last time. I think

1134
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: he was hurt and playing in l A against USC

1135
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: is a dream of his, like he has wanted to

1136
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: show out at the coliseum forever, and USC recruited him,

1137
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: I believe as an athlete, not a quarterback. So which

1138
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: I think you support UM, But so I think that

1139
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of University of Arizona fans

1140
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: are saying, like, hey, you know, let him play this

1141
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: game and then let's move on, UM. And uh, it's weird,

1142
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: what a weird like sentimental things, you know, like let's

1143
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: throw him this bone for everything he did for us,

1144
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: and let's move on to the backup quarterback and get

1145
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: started with the Normazoni offense that you know, Kevin, someone

1146
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: wants to be running And I don't understand that, Like

1147
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: why why why why, Like just just make a decision

1148
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: and move on. A double minded man is unstable in

1149
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: all his ways and this is what Arizona is right now.

1150
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't trust him. I don't trust him to win

1151
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: this game. I like USC. I think Slovans has a

1152
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: good game in Arizona's. We just talked about their past

1153
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: defense as it related to Colorado's. They have the second

1154
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: worst past defense in the Pac twelve. So guess what

1155
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: uh Tate? Uh? I mean, Tate, I'm m ra st Brown,

1156
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: Pittman and Vons are gonna do to this Arizona se secondary.

1157
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 1: This will be fifty points on the board for me.

1158
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: Pretty brutal um. I honestly, George, I want to see it.

1159
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: I want to see Clil Tate play in l A

1160
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: against again. Of course you do. But also, like I've said,

1161
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm done, I'm done with him being at You have

1162
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: a um and so maybe this gives them the the

1163
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: Maybe this gives them the final thing because if he

1164
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: doesn't play well, it's got to be over right. I

1165
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: guess I don't know what they're doing. So it's time.

1166
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: You and I agree, it's time to move on and

1167
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: to run the offense that they they're the coaching staff

1168
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: like as much as it hurts to do that, man

1169
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: and maybe Khalil Tate will do what their other two

1170
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have done and moved to a different position. You

1171
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: know they've got They've got Jamari Joiner at receiver. Um,

1172
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: they got Drew Dixon at receiver. Both of those guys

1173
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: were He's not changing positions. He's he's the guy that

1174
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: believes he's a quarterback. Despite what's he gonna What's he

1175
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: gonna do? Pout was gonna set out the entire season

1176
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: because he can't transfer, now, he can't red shirt. What's

1177
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: he gonna do? So if he wants to get on

1178
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: the field, and I think you're right at the NFL level,

1179
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: I think he's probably gonna have to be something different.

1180
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: I mean, because he's got like a Lamar Jackson skill set,

1181
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have Lamar Jackson's mental constitution. Like what

1182
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: do the kids say, like Lamar Jackson wants all the smoke.

1183
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Cluiltate though, and so I don't know.

1184
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 1: I'm I'm split on it. I would like he didn't

1185
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: even want to run, He didn't even want to run,

1186
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson just ran for a hundred and fifty

1187
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: yards last last week. I wouldn't be surprised if he

1188
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: I want to see him play in l A. I

1189
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if he plays well. If he plays well,

1190
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: it will probably screw up. You have a even more

1191
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: because then they have another week of delaying the inevitable. Um.

1192
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: Then then again, what if who they wins because Clay

1193
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: Hilton doesn't know what he's doing. You know that this

1194
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 1: is a game that that USC. The last time USC

1195
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: had to face culil Tate, clil Tate had a monster

1196
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: game and Clay Hilton you was out there comforting uh

1197
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: Coliltate at the end of the game after USC ended

1198
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: up pulling off a win. Um, I don't know. This

1199
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: is a game of all the games, this is the

1200
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: game I'm most excited to watch, just because what are

1201
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,799
Speaker 1: you kidding? You have Oregon, Washington and Arizona State, Utah,

1202
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: which we're gonna talk about. What you're excited about the

1203
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: u of a USC game. Yeah, because all of the

1204
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: all of the ingredients are there for all the stuff

1205
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: that we've been talking about to come to fruition. This

1206
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: could be the first Clay Hilton could get fired after

1207
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: this game if they lose this game, because he could

1208
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: be out so Lane kipt except there won't be a

1209
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 1: tar Mac. Callil Tate's job is on the line, Clay

1210
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: Hilton's job is on the line. Uh, we could we

1211
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 1: could see usc S receivers actually do what they're capable

1212
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: of in this game. I've got goose bumps just talking

1213
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: about it right now. Like what if they have three

1214
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: different receivers over hundred fifty yards like that, you know,

1215
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: and and then and then you know, the possibility, the

1216
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: outside possibilit it exists that Tate has one more bullet

1217
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: left in the chamber. And as as crazy as it

1218
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: would be for that program to have to deal with with,

1219
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, not moving on to Granton l Um, you know,

1220
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: when they when they probably should be, it would be

1221
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: pretty cool to see Clil Tate go out there throw

1222
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: for three hundred, run for two hundred, and just put

1223
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: together one last final you know, go go take it's

1224
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: It's not happening, brother, It's not It's not happening. Uh.

1225
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: The next game up, the most controversial game of the weekend,

1226
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: Arizona State in Utah. Not anything controversial about the game itself.

1227
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: It's the fact that this game is on the damn

1228
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: Pack twelve network. It's a top it's a seventeenth ranked

1229
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: team versus a thirteenth ranked t This is craziness. And

1230
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: I get that the Pack twelve wanted to uh that

1231
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: if you have choice of games, that this was the

1232
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: optimal game to choose because ESPN took the Washington Oregon

1233
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: game because their brand teams, but U talk consistently gets

1234
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: on the Pack twelve network. This is so silly, especially

1235
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: when it comes to New York New Year's six Bowl

1236
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 1: game selection, where you saw Washington State get left out

1237
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: last year, and now you may have a situation if

1238
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: for some reason Oregon gets into playoffs or goes to

1239
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: the Rolls Rose Bowl, you can have it at large

1240
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 1: bid on the case and the night the nation will

1241
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: not get to see it because only seventeen million people

1242
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: have access to Pack twelve network, where eighty million people

1243
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: to ESPN two yep, I couldn't say any better. I

1244
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: was thinking about going out to Salt Lake. Probably not

1245
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: gonna do it. Um. I am one of the seventeen

1246
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 1: million people that does have access to packtrol network, even

1247
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: though my Roku TV only only plays anything on Sling

1248
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: for about thirty five minutes before it reboots, and so

1249
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: it's so frustrating to just be able to find a

1250
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: place to be able to watch a Pack twelve game

1251
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: and not having not having issue. Um, so I can

1252
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: go out to eat with your family and watch it back. No,

1253
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: because there is no definitive list of these places have

1254
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: I remember once I was um in Colorado and I

1255
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: was just driving around looking for a place that had

1256
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 1: Packed twelve network, and I found someone had made a

1257
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: list of like three restaurants that all had it. And

1258
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,879
Speaker 1: I went to all three restaurants and all three were closed,

1259
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: like had been shut down. And so I ended up

1260
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: listening to that whatever that game that was on on

1261
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: the radio. Um. And so it's just it's such a mess. Uh.

1262
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: This would have been much better to have a national audience.

1263
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: You know. I'm sure that even though people are saying

1264
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: that college game, they wouldn't have taken something like this

1265
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: into account. I'm sure that they look at this and said, like,

1266
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna be able to watch this game anyway? Why

1267
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: I go out to Salt Lake City? Um oh oh,

1268
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: I think that Game Day would have probably chosen Washington,

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Speaker 1: Oregon prior to I mean that that I think that

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01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 1: that that was the third choice. I think that. Yeah,

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01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 1: this it's very frustrating. Not a lot of people are

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01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: gonna get to see the game, So make sure you

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01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: listen to Pack twelve Apostles podcasts who will have quite

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Speaker 1: the recap for you. Um on our Barroom Monday show

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01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: for everybody who is not able to watch. What do

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Speaker 1: you what do you think is gonna happen in this game?

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01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:24,799
Speaker 1: Georgia Okay, I'm offended by this line. It makes no sense.

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01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: Utah is favorite by fourteen points, Like have you seen

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01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 1: Arizona State play? They don't. That's not going like like

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Speaker 1: people are. I guess the odds makers and the betters

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01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 1: are all confused because Washington State plays a completely different

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01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: style from era from Yeah, Washington State plays a different

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01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: style than Utah. Utah is going to run the football

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01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: kind of play action dinkins dunk like, and they're not

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01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna be hitting home runs or throwing the ball sixty times.

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01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: It was a game like Washington State did to pile

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01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: up all those yards on the Arizona State and all

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01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: those points. So Arizona State hadn't allowed that type of

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Speaker 1: offensive production all season. So in Utah's offense, like I've

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Speaker 1: been saying it all year, Tyler Huntley is gonna have

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01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: to be special and at least three games down the

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01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,839
Speaker 1: stretch for them to get to the PAC twelve Championship. Special,

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01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: not just game manager, not just okay, He's gonna have

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01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: to show up special. And don't tell me about the

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Speaker 1: the other game when he went for against who who's

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01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: that against that he had a crazy uh a crazy game?

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Speaker 1: Oh against US Washington State? Yes, yes, against Washington State

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Speaker 1: where he had that crazy game. I'm like, don't don't

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Speaker 1: don't give me that. Don't give me that. And Herm

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01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: Edwards teams don't get blown out. They lose sometimes, but

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01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: they don't blow people out either. Yeah, so expected this

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01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: is an easy If I were betting on this game,

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01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: I would, Oh my god, I would. I don't know how.

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01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: I mean, this would be a huge Arizona take for

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01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: fourteen getting fourteen points? Are you kidding me? This? Here's

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01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: do you know who? Herm Edwards did blow out Utah

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01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: last year? Utah like they I tweeted this. I said that,

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01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: like Arizona State doesn't even know how to lose by

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01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: more than four or win by more than four, except

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01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: for the time that they smacked Utah with a suck

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01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: full of Nichols's State last year, so like this line is.

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01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: And then I had people whom I mentioned saying, we're like, well,

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Speaker 1: this is more about like algorithm and making sure the

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01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 1: money split evenly. You don't think the money is gonna

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Speaker 1: be Arizona State. Everybody has access to this same information

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01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: that like the line, like they are risking a bunch

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01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: of money on this line, a good line for this game,

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 1: a good line where it would have been split even

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01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: fifty fifty on each side. Point you could at least

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01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 1: just yeah, or it's like you six anywhere between six

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01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: and a half and eight and a half fourteen, all

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01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: the money is going to be on a su So

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01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: unless they know something that nobody else knows, or unless

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01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: Arizona State all of a sudden is not themselves. Um,

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01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just wh who where's the money

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01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: that's coming in on the Utah side where it's not

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01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: that that's a sucker bet Um, who are you picking

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01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: in the game? I am going to roll with the

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01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: hot hand um and and uh go with the kid

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01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna go with the kid that Utah thought

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01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: that they were going to get and didn't. So I'm

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01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: rolling with Jaden Daniels in this game until he shows

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01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: me otherwise that he can be rattled in any way. UM,

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01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 1: the Arizona State defense last year probably played their best

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01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: game against Utah. And I know that they knocked Tyler

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01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: Huntley out of the game, but he he didn't look

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01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: super great before that either. UM. Tyler Huntley is a

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01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,799
Speaker 1: guy who has to kind of go over the top

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01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: to UM to produce in the passing game, and a

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01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: s U that's usually not the thing that as you

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01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: gives up in the passing game. And a SU does

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01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 1: run a three three five, UM, so you can run

1343
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: the ball up the middle over and over and over

1344
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: against them if you want to kind of believe the

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01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 1: clock a little bit. But they also have the ability

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01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: to kind of switch to a heavy front, and they've

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01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: got you know, decent enough linebackers to um to to

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01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: to dissuade you from that, which we saw when a

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Speaker 1: SU played Utah last year. So I just I'm going

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01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: off of recent results UM in their head to head

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01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: matchup last year. And I'm also and historically a s

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01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: U has just owned Utah. I think there's something like

1353
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: nine or ten and one or nine or ten and

1354
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: two in the last you know, twelve meetings. Um, and

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Speaker 1: I just look at Jaden Daniels and I'm like, wait,

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01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: give me a reason to pick against you. Yeah, you know,

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01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I totally agree. And then you know,

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01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin has been talking trash with Utah fans

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Speaker 1: for eight months on Twitter, and Utah fans are wild

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01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: on online, and uh, I think that, you know, this

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01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: is a chance for you know, to show them one

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01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: last time what they missed out when he didn't commit

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01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 1: to Utah after decommitting from Iowa. Dude, I totally agree

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Speaker 1: with you there. I am. I am in the same boat.

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Speaker 1: I'm picking Washington State as well, especially with these with

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Speaker 1: these damn points Arizona. Yeah, oh jeez, I'm not picking

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01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: well yeah, well I picked Washingtonton State too, but I'm

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01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: picking Arizona State. Uh. Rice to Eccles is a big

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01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: time home field advantage, but not no damn fourteen points.

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Speaker 1: I tell you that much. Um. Last game Oregon Washington

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01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: in Seattle, I'm looking at the ACCU weather. It looks

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01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: like it could be a little bit of rain which

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01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: may affect the game, which I think would actually help

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01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: Oregon out a little bit. What's the deal the Pro

1375
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: Football Focus thing that came out that has Jacob Eason

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01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: rated higher than it's also got Jalen Hurts rated higher

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01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: than than him as well, Dude. The the Pro Football

1378
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,879
Speaker 1: Focusing is based upon their college offenses and on target

1379
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: throw Like, there's a lot of stuff that factors into

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01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: it that doesn't necessarily give you a ranking of who

1381
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: is the best in terms of NFL potential. So yeah,

1382
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: so you have to take some of those things with

1383
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: a grain of salt, dude, Like, because we've we've all

1384
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: watched Jacob ees and not play well against cow not

1385
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: play well against uh you USC, and not play well

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01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: against Stanford, like we we watched it, So we don't

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Speaker 1: have to, you know, act like it's something else. Oregon's

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01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 1: favored by three points. If they were playing in Eugene,

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01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: this will probably be a ten point line. Who you got, Ralph,

1390
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: I like Washington, Oh, you're an idiot. Of course I'm kidding.

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01:22:53,960 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 1: Of course I'm kidding. No man, no way, Like, what

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01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: what all Oregon has done is dominate on the defensive

1393
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: side of the ball, and all there's there's no way

1394
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: if and and I you know how I feel about

1395
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 1: Jacob Eason and and this Washington team. They looked so

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01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: disorganized in the first half against Arizona, and they were

1397
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: able to get it back together. But you gotta put

1398
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,799
Speaker 1: a complete game together if you want to beat Oregon.

1399
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: And I know that in some rivalries you can throw

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01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: stuff out the window, but I don't not this year.

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01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Um yeah, because Jacob Easton has

1402
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: struggled against good defenses, and Oregon is the best defense

1403
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: in the back twelve. This year. They given up eight

1404
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: points a game. They haven't given up over three hundred

1405
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: yards of offense in five games. I'm looking for this.

1406
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: I want a Thomas Graham game. I want like a

1407
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: I want like this is what they show when he

1408
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: gets drafted, you know, the highlights of this game or

1409
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: what he showed. So I'm I want to see I

1410
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: want to see Thomas Graham because I've actually seen Jacobison

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01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 1: and Thomas Grahama like on the same you know out

1412
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: at like seven on seven stuff in California when Easton

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01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: would travel down. Um, you know, I want to see

1414
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 1: Thomas Graham go and get his Uh you know, I'm

1415
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: a I'm a big fan of him. Um, and uh,

1416
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: that's the guy that I'm pen pointing to to make

1417
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:23,480
Speaker 1: a play on the defensive side of the football. Offensively,

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01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: I think your boys might struggle a little, but I

1419
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: don't think in the end it's gonna matter all that much. Yeah,

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01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see them putting up fifty points

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01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: or something, but unless they get a few turnovers, which

1422
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: which could happen. But aside from that, I see this

1423
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: is like a twenty eighteen game, and that maybe twenty

1424
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 1: three thirteen somewhere in there. Um. Yeah, that's kind of

1425
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: where I see his game. I mean, last year came

1426
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 1: down to a field goal, missfield goal, and then overtime

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01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 1: Oregon one on C j Erdale end Oregan's winning the

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01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: ball better. Now, I think this team is just on

1429
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 1: a mission and I don't I just don't see him

1430
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 1: losing this game. Um. Oh, and then obviously you have

1431
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: like this is a big recruiting game because you're gonna

1432
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: have so many Washington recruits. There are guys who are

1433
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: on the fence from going to Oregon Washington because they're

1434
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: both recruiting very heavily. They're both in the top fourteen

1435
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: in recruiting classes. This year, and it is just gonna

1436
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: be a It is going to be a emotional blood bath.

1437
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: But I don't think the score is close. Like, I

1438
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,839
Speaker 1: don't think that this the game is closely as closely

1439
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: contested as the as as everything kind of lead as

1440
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: people wanted to say. So what you're saying, You're saying

1441
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: about a ten point margin. Yeah, I'll yeah, I'll say

1442
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: it between ten ten as well. It makes sense to

1443
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: me ten and twelve point ore gonna win. But it doesn't.

1444
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: But it feels more like Washington is, you know, grasping

1445
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: at straws a little bit, And I think that it's

1446
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 1: just a matter of one team, one team is currently

1447
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: better than another team. Yeah, that's you know. I sure

1448
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: like nonsense comes with rivalry sometimes, but I don't think

1449
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: that Washington. The one thing that they haven't shown me

1450
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: yet this year is the capability to like innovate beyond

1451
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: their own limitations. Um that they should not have been

1452
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: down to Arizona at be half after Clil take through

1453
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: them a touchdown pack Yeah exactly, you guys. Thank you

1454
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: guys for listening to the Fact twelve Apostles podcast. We

1455
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Energy shared a podcast tell a friend

1456
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: about the podcast peace Out. We will catch you guys

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Speaker 1: later