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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Norri

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Speaker 1: with you, Paul Hamnan with us, and the later runs

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Speaker 1: Cianne will join us. They're both lifelong contactees of the

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Speaker 1: Zada race and have clear conscious recall of their contact,

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Speaker 1: which begins that they work with in these beings that

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Speaker 1: they are. They are both deep trance mediums working with

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Speaker 1: spirit guides to assist others. Paul's earliest memories of being

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Speaker 1: visited by the Zadas are from when he was eighteen

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Speaker 1: months old. Cianne's earliest memories of contact with the Zadas

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Speaker 1: are from four years old, where she was introduced to

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Speaker 1: a small boy of a similar age. She met the

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Speaker 1: same boy on board a craft several years later. This

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Speaker 1: boy ended up being Paul. Both she and Paul have

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Speaker 1: the same shared memory of time on board craft, as

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Speaker 1: well as many other shared and separate experiences on craft

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Speaker 1: being with the Zaida's. First of all, here's Paul with us. Paul,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the program. Thank you very much. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to this as well. How far back do

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Speaker 1: you remember this episode when you were four years old.

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Speaker 1: I've got very very good recall. I remember seeing the Zita's.

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Speaker 1: You know, as a child, I would often go outside

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Speaker 1: at night looking at this guy, sort of talking to

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Speaker 1: these beings. Of course, back then there was no TV

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Speaker 1: that we had, you know, there was no Internet. Why,

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Speaker 1: you know, I sort of managed to be talking to

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Speaker 1: these beings that I wasn't even aware that our extraterrestrial

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Speaker 1: was at that age, of course, but you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: as I got older, I realized what was going on.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us how this started for you, Paul,

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Speaker 1: what happened? Yeah, yeah, for sure. It was probably about

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Speaker 1: when I was eighteen. I was in Melbourne in Australia,

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Speaker 1: and I was with a friend and we were in

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Speaker 1: and a craft appeared about seven or eight meters across,

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Speaker 1: and I said to my friend that was helping me

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Speaker 1: that he could. And then the side of the craft

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Speaker 1: was only about sort of ten meters away from the windows.

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Speaker 1: The side went clear and two extraterrestris appeared through the

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Speaker 1: We let them in and they came over and they

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Speaker 1: sat there for about five minutes and we were able

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Speaker 1: to see these things quite clearly. We didn't even know,

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Speaker 1: when I was about twenty three, I woke up my

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Speaker 1: the lights for our I got dress, I walked into

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Speaker 1: then and then the third being jumped on me and

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Speaker 1: Someone said, look, if you're who you say you are,

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Speaker 1: to see it. What happened was you had about twenty

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Speaker 1: then after that that occurrence of the class coming, Kathleen

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Speaker 1: asked the Zitas. They said they would and then three

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Speaker 1: held her permanently. That was really good for them to

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Speaker 1: do that. About how many contact moments have you had

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Speaker 1: with the Zitas? Hundred hundreds not craft landing of course,

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Speaker 1: But the problem that we've got is how complex the

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Speaker 1: behind screen memory. And because it's buried behind some narrative,

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Speaker 1: like some personal have a dream, they think they're in

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Speaker 1: channel the Zetas, don't you. Yeah, that's right. So I

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Speaker 1: do public sittings. Generally thirty or forty people will come

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Speaker 1: or a primate of the Zita race. And then the

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Speaker 1: second book, which is about seven hundred pages, is called

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Speaker 1: the Zita Interviews, and we give those two books away

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Speaker 1: for free. Paul's website, of course, is linked up at

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Speaker 1: coast to coast am dot com. It's called the Zeta

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Speaker 1: of the Zeta race as well. Would you say that

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Speaker 1: Zas themselves are friendly, or they look very much like

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Speaker 1: relationship with the Sian, who we will meet shortly. I

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Speaker 1: sparke UFOs, what percent of them could be a Zeta craft.

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Speaker 1: by doing a calling in process like C. Five, they

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Speaker 1: rather than just seeing flashes of light in the sky.

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Speaker 1: What do they think of us? They think that humans

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Speaker 1: are the race have massive potential to be much better

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Speaker 1: understand it in consciousness. How abilities are so high that

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Speaker 1: more that they would easily, you know, work with people.

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Speaker 1: They like to spend giving information time, giving the information.

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Speaker 1: That's why that the informations in the books because and

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Speaker 1: we give them away for free, because we want people

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Speaker 1: most important things, Paul. Were your parents aware of this

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