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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome into Texans All Access from the Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 2: John Harris football an, a sideline reporter and founder Football

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Speaker 2: takeover dot Com. You're on your good draft stuff. Go

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Speaker 2: there and the Voice of the Texans, Mark vandermir Mark.

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Speaker 2: Are you sleeping much or you like me? Because I'm

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Speaker 2: not sleeping much so I'm trying to get all this

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Speaker 2: draft stuff.

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Speaker 1: Don How you doing, Johnny.

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Speaker 3: My lack of sleep, I'll be admitting this right now

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Speaker 3: has nothing to do with the anticipation of the draft. Okay, Look,

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Speaker 3: if we had an opening Day coming up this weekend,

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Speaker 3: I'd be having trouble sleeping.

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Speaker 1: I'd be so excited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not that I'm not excited for the draft,

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Speaker 3: but I'm just tempering my enthusiasm. Everyone asks me, you know,

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Speaker 3: we talked about where I've been in the last couple

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Speaker 3: of days. Everyone asks me, who are they gonna take?

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Speaker 3: Who are they gonna take? Like I know, but they

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Speaker 3: just want to make conversation, and I get it. I

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Speaker 3: don't know who they're gonna take. We'll all find out

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Speaker 3: together a week from Thursday. So it's a week from

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Speaker 3: tomorrow night, Johnny, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Man, there's a lot to do in eight days, A

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Speaker 1: lot to do.

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Speaker 3: Well, you have a lot to do. I have to review, too,

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Speaker 3: I do. I have to review a lot of these names. Names, pronunciations, pronunciations.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: There's one coming up that I know we're going to

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Speaker 3: discuss tonight that I have not checked with you beforehand.

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Speaker 3: I get a pronunciation guide from the league. Yeah, next week. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'll get that next week. Yeah, because you know the

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Speaker 3: interesting names are coming up later on. Now you know

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Speaker 3: all the guys in the first couple of rounds, and

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Speaker 3: now I've read all this stuff. But some of these

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Speaker 3: names I'm not quite positive about. But that's neither here

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Speaker 3: nor there. The thing is, it's coming up. It's a

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Speaker 3: big deal. But then the Texans already have a good team.

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Speaker 3: You're adding to it. You're adding to the youth, the depth,

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Speaker 3: the growth of the team moving forward into twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: seven and beyond after this season.

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Speaker 1: These impact players. How many will you get in this draft?

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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 3: But it's fun. It's gonna be a fun weekend. Can't

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Speaker 3: wait for all the coverage. We're going to have a

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Speaker 3: full sixteen hours of NFL Draft coverage starting next Thursday Night.

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Speaker 2: There is one name I think might give you some issue.

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Speaker 2: Okay maybe, but I think once you get it, you

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Speaker 2: get it. But after that, I think it's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: You can say Sonny Styles, David Bailey. Sometimes some of

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Speaker 2: the poly names get get to Francis Marinoa. You know

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Speaker 2: it's a G. You're like toungue ioloa. There's no end,

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Speaker 2: but there's an end of the pronunciation. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: the same, like Francis Marinoa. Sissy is his nickname, Marionoa

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Speaker 2: for Miami where he will go. But other than that,

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Speaker 2: the only other one is Vegae Iowani from Penn State.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the only real tough one to get the

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Speaker 2: actual true pronunciation, and he'll go top man. I really

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Speaker 2: would love him to fall to a point where maybe

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Speaker 2: they could go up and get him, but that's not happening.

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Speaker 2: It's just, yeah, I would love him, but it's he

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Speaker 2: he's not. He's not gonna be there. In fact, in

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Speaker 2: Dame Brugler, we're gonna talk about this in a little

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Speaker 2: bit Dame Bruglar's mock draft, he goes number fifteen to

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Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So, uh yeah, Vega, you want it, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I said, right, yeah, Vega. So it's like Vegas about

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Speaker 2: the s and then I want to his first name

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Speaker 2: is a lot longer than that. But if you get Vega,

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Speaker 3: Heard some well Penn State at Juice Scruggs, So how

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Speaker 3: could this be? And look, Juice might still have a

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Speaker 3: really great career. I think it's gonna be in the

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Speaker 3: league for a long time, maybe not as a starter,

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Speaker 3: but certainly as a guy who could hang around in

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Speaker 3: the course of history.

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Speaker 1: But come on, really, can I get two beefs off

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Speaker 1: my chest? As you go there with one of them schools?

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Speaker 3: If you're a certain position from a certain school, everybody

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Speaker 3: else who plays that position at that school in the

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Speaker 3: future is gonna be the exact same person, right.

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Speaker 1: That's why. That's why the Texans shouldn't have drafted CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 1: Why because old quarterbacks from Ohio State suck well.

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Speaker 3: By that realigic, the Chiefs never should have drafted Patrick

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Speaker 3: Mahomes out of Texas Tech.

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Speaker 2: And the Packers should have never drafted Aaron Rodgers because

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Speaker 2: all the Jeff Techford quarterbacks stunk.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's true, Kyle Boehler has he's on the phone jack.

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Speaker 2: That's why you don't draft Chase pisoftis because Kenyon Green

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Speaker 2: wasn't good for the Texas man.

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Speaker 1: You can miss me with that, not I I their thing.

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Speaker 2: I have to watch myself with those because I get

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Speaker 2: so incredibly ticked off when I hear that from from fans.

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Speaker 2: I have another question, but I'll get to my second one.

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Speaker 2: It's not a top thirty visit. Okay, it's not the

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Speaker 2: top thirty players on their board. It's it's a thirty visit.

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Speaker 2: They get thirty.

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Speaker 1: Yes, everybody's calling it that, and I'm like, what are

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Speaker 2: It drives me insane because what happens is when he

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Speaker 2: brought him in for a top thirty visit, you must

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Speaker 2: be one. No, it's a thirty visit. Well, they're right,

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Speaker 2: you get thirty of them where you can bring players in,

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Speaker 2: take them through the Texans car wash, send them out

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Speaker 2: the next day.

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Speaker 3: Right, because on the on the Texans board, Fernando Mendoza

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Speaker 3: is somewhere on the Texans board, right.

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Speaker 1: All the players are on their board.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, all the players, and they've scouted every player

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Speaker 3: to stress so they rank the players somewhere. Now, it

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Speaker 3: might not be their board as far as players would take,

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Speaker 3: but they have to have a master ranking.

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Speaker 1: And Mendoza, let's say he's ten or something.

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Speaker 3: I'll just throw out a number, but that would make

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Speaker 3: him a top thirty player on their board.

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Speaker 1: But they're not gonna bring him in because they're not

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Speaker 1: taking a quarterback ten thirty. So it's a thirty visits.

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Speaker 1: It's thirty guys. You're curious about that. You want to

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Speaker 3: You might have had other names that are in your

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Speaker 3: your top thirty, but you met him already.

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Speaker 1: You feel like you know them. We don't need to

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Speaker 2: We're good with that guy.

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Speaker 3: We met him at the combine. We spent some time

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Speaker 3: We got great references. Let's use one of these thirty

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Speaker 3: we're very curious.

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Speaker 2: That's absolutely right. It's not a top thirty. I've seen

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Speaker 2: so many of the nugget Hussies put top thirty. My

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Speaker 2: good friends Sean and Seth, they will say it at

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Speaker 2: times at Top thirty. If they don't mean it, they

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Speaker 2: don't mean it and they understand it, so I don't

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Speaker 2: get mad at them. But what happens is slip hear that.

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Speaker 2: They hear that, and it's like, no, it's not a

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Speaker 2: thirty that gets to come to campus and hang out

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Speaker 2: and look, the Texans have drafted guys.

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Speaker 1: They've had a thirty visit.

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Speaker 2: There have been times the Texans have drafted guys and

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Speaker 2: then you talked to them since the Combine and didn't

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Speaker 2: even have a formal meeting with them at the Combine.

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Speaker 3: The best thirty visit year was twenty fourteen. It'll be

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Speaker 3: hard to tell. That's pretty good. It'll be hard to

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Speaker 3: top it because it was Johnny Manziel and Gendevion Clowney

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Speaker 3: having lunch in the cafeteria at a time when business

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Speaker 3: operations that's ticketing and PR and US and whoever else

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Speaker 3: accounting would still have lunch in the cafeteria, right, And

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Speaker 3: there's Johnny Manziel and Geneveon Clowney having lunch at a

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Speaker 3: before I saw Jimmy Garoppolo here. That was a cool

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Speaker 3: year for Top thirty visits. Bill O'Brien had just taken over.

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Speaker 3: You didn't know what they were going to do in

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Speaker 3: the draft as far as quarterback went. Are they going

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Speaker 3: to take Blaketles? I wonder if Bortles was here too.

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Speaker 1: I might not know this right now, and ask him

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Speaker 1: if Bortles was ever hed No, No, don't do that.

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Speaker 3: No for a Top thirty visits.

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Speaker 2: I remember the one day I remembered sinkly was twenty

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Speaker 2: seventeen because I remember Sean was here, Yeah, and he

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Speaker 2: was at one table.

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Speaker 1: He drew a crowd, and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was before we remodeled the cafeteria.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were I remember sitting in the back

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Speaker 2: and of course we had tons of Clemson dudes at

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Speaker 2: reader and hop they were all walking in and you

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Speaker 2: know they would see to Sean. He had he he

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Speaker 2: had that magnetic you know, Laura, just when say I

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Speaker 2: mean he he was he was it. There's no question

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Speaker 2: he had gravitated towards him. Was a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's still in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: So there's that.

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Speaker 3: Now, we've seen guys around the building off season for

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Speaker 3: thirty visits, and we can't share those names.

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Speaker 2: Some of them have leaked out right, some of them

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Speaker 3: Some of them are out there for sure because those

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Speaker 3: things get reported by whoever. And it's not that it's irrelevant,

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Speaker 3: but the team wants to keep things as close to

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Speaker 3: the vest as they can. Yeah, sometimes the player, maybe

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Speaker 3: the agent. I don't know how it gets out there,

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Speaker 3: but it doesn't really matter because they're gonna pick who

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Speaker 3: they're gonna pick, and often they pick guys that didn't

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Speaker 3: visit that they feel confident about.

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Speaker 1: Clearly they do, otherwise they wouldn't wrap them.

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Speaker 3: So we'll all find out together Thursday, Friday, Saturday next week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I want to start this. We're take a

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Speaker 2: look at Dame Brugler's seven round mock, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: take a look at it from a different standpoint. We

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Speaker 2: want to ask you a question I was on with

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Speaker 2: Cody and Landry on their podcast on we's say Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: So it was on Tuesday, and as we were, you know,

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Speaker 1: they just fire different.

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Speaker 2: You know, what do you think of about this position,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about this prospect, et cetera. So

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Speaker 2: we talked more about the prospects than we really kind

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Speaker 2: of talked about the Texans. But I thought it was

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Speaker 2: interesting because I turned it around on them and I said,

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Speaker 2: if you're sitting at number twenty eight, who would you take?

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Speaker 2: You asked that, Yeah, I turned it around because I

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Speaker 2: the other night. In fact, I hit you with this

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Speaker 2: on Monday night when you had your golf tournament, which

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Speaker 2: was awesome. By the way. The first two picks that

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Speaker 2: I did in the Johnny mock were an edge rusher,

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Speaker 2: key mezzador and then Cad McDonald. I went defense defense.

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Speaker 2: So I asked, dudes, I said, Cody, who would you

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Speaker 2: take a twenty eight? Probably Kid McDonald. And I said

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Speaker 2: to Lander, I said who would you take? And he

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Speaker 2: said probably Keldric Falk from at Auburn. Both one guy

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Speaker 2: number twenty eight, you're gonna see him play in twenty

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask you a question that and this

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Speaker 2: But at least defense, You know, because players rotate a lot,

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Speaker 2: you may have signed, like say you draft the guard

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Speaker 3: Six, Johnny, I'll feel fine because there's two things that

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Speaker 3: go into that. If he doesn't get on the field,

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Speaker 3: the guys that you signed are playing great, right, or

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Speaker 3: not terrible but not good enough to crack that lineup, right,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't play, it's one of those two things, right,

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Speaker 3: So I'm okay with either of those scenarios, because look,

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Speaker 3: you're not going to score with every draft choice. Now

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Speaker 3: he might play. He'll play right away if he's good,

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Speaker 3: because he'll rotate in exactly. And Seth brought that up

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Speaker 2: They're gonna see the fuel at some point, right it

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Speaker 2: might be for ten snaps, but you're gonna see the fuel.

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Speaker 1: Offensive line, as we know, you want to keep your

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Speaker 3: I know they've sub substituted around a little bit here

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be the first go exceptionally well you

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Speaker 3: right now, they'd prefer not to do that, right, I

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Speaker 1: So We'll see how it goes this year. But I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with waiting because you tell me, what's the

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Speaker 3: concern about Whyatt Teller? You know he's been injured, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: Same thing? Right? So you draft to guard or a

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Speaker 3: You draft them early, all right, if they're ready, if

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Speaker 3: If they're not ready, they're not ready. So I'm fine

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Speaker 3: with it. Draft the best player you can. I really

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Speaker 3: You have to develop the youth movement on the offensive

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Speaker 2: I remember, and I'll draw the comparison. You'll get it

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Speaker 2: it wasn't like we were picking, you know, we were

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Speaker 2: We didn't use one of ours to move up like

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Speaker 2: no no, it was three additional first round picks. You

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Speaker 1: But it's like, no, no, no, we moved from twelve

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Speaker 2: That was what we did.

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Speaker 1: So anyways, point.

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Speaker 2: Being, when we move for to Sean, I remember thinking,

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Speaker 2: what would be fantastic is if you extended the shelf

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Speaker 2: life of this trade by continuing to take some of

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Speaker 2: up and moving hey, you know for our you know

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Speaker 2: it is like, extend the life of that trade, which

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Speaker 1: And that's the way I look at this.

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Speaker 2: I've got to look at it as if you want

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Speaker 3: What you're talking about, though, extending the life of the

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Speaker 3: me of those who make homemade bread and they have

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Speaker 3: the yeast, and the yeast stays around forever. Right, You

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Speaker 3: keep borrowing from the yeast make the bread, which blows

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Speaker 3: my mind. Your starter, yeah, that's your yeah, starter.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand this. Why doesn't it go bad? Why

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Speaker 3: doesn't it get all moldy and green and unusable? But

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what I'm thinking as it pertains to

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Speaker 2: Cody's pick was a defense. Landers pick was a defense.

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Speaker 2: And I said, when we when that clockhead zeros in

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Speaker 2: ready to fly back to Houston, the off season is started.

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Speaker 2: What did everybody say this offense has to get better,

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Speaker 3: In our mock drafts because I think the feeling is

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Speaker 1: Then that's why I asked the question.

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Speaker 3: Is that a compliment to what they've done, not a

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Speaker 3: the first round, does that mean they're saying, high five, Nick,

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Speaker 3: You've done a great job on the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I asked the question, because I think

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Speaker 1: Want to see him now.

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Speaker 2: Alex Smith was good that year, but and it's happened

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Speaker 2: with other, you know, other players, other positions basketball. The

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Speaker 2: the Celtics had an aging team. Larry Bird was fantatic.

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Speaker 2: But red Auerbach saw the future and saw, you know, look,

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Speaker 2: I've only got three more years probably with this group.

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Speaker 2: Bias is this star. Unfortunately, Leambias, for those people that

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Speaker 2: Brugler has the Texans at number twenty eight taken Chase

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Speaker 2: Bysontas from Texas A and M. Now my first MOC

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Speaker 1: Line could lose ed. Do you know about Teller? We

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Speaker 2: Chase Maisontis made a lot of sense when I saw

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Speaker 2: I liked it because I feel like, yeah, if Chase

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Speaker 2: He went to don Bosco Prep. He's very confident, but

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Speaker 2: He can bridge the gap from ed Ingram Wyatt Teller

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Speaker 1: okay with that. I would be alright with that.

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Speaker 3: Along those lines defensive players, whether it be edge or tackle,

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Speaker 3: I don't think we're going in any other position here

436
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Speaker 3: in a first round mock. Although who had linebacker? Somebody

437
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Speaker 3: had a linebacker? See linebacker, because there have been.

438
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Speaker 1: A few CJ. Allen have put I'm sure he ran

439
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Speaker 1: very well.

440
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Speaker 3: As pro guys from Austin Are affiliate there thirteen, they

441
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Speaker 3: were talking to Anthony Hill junior, and I thought, listen,

442
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Speaker 3: the only picture I could paint there is depth to

443
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Speaker 3: start competition. You know, he competes for a spot. Maybe

444
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Speaker 3: probably not, but maybe emerges if there's an injury hole

445
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Speaker 3: to fill. Sure, right there, because you have three deep

446
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Speaker 3: there minimum, okay with EJ.

447
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Speaker 1: Speed, Henry and Azz.

448
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Speaker 3: Right and you know last year at this time we

449
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Speaker 3: were talking, all right, they signed EJ.

450
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Speaker 2: Speed.

451
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Speaker 3: They still have Christian Harris, and we didn't know that

452
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Speaker 3: Christian Harris was going to be inactive. A lot of

453
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Speaker 3: the time we thought, hey, maybe Christian Harris turns back

454
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Speaker 3: into Christian Harris that we saw the playoff game against Cleveland,

455
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Speaker 3: that Christian Harris that we loved. So we're thinking they

456
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Speaker 3: are Ocean deep at linebacker. I don't know about ocean

457
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Speaker 3: right now, but they are definitely great Lakes deep. Feel

458
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Speaker 3: good about this that we have. The unfortunate matter is

459
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Speaker 3: two of them are on the last year of their deal,

460
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Speaker 3: and that's kind of.

461
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Speaker 1: That's a little clunky, right.

462
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Speaker 3: Extensions are still possible, No, exactly exactly all of that

463
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Speaker 3: is still in play because Nick wants to get through

464
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Speaker 3: the draft because he might be thinking and Dimiico too,

465
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Speaker 3: they might be thinking that there's some things we can

466
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Speaker 3: do in this draft. If we don't get them done, now,

467
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Speaker 3: we got to go back to veteranville, you know, whoever's

468
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Speaker 3: still out there in free agency and maybe add a player.

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Speaker 1: Nick excited it in his press conference the other day.

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Speaker 3: He talked about, Hey, remember we signed Nick Chubb late

471
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Speaker 3: but before Mini camp, whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: So all of that is.

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Speaker 3: Still in play, extensions, signings, whatever. Based on what happens

474
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Speaker 3: next week in this draft. I think it would be

475
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Speaker 3: very unlikely that they would sign any kind of veteran

476
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Speaker 3: before the draft. They're gonna see how the draft plays out.

477
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Speaker 3: Maybe there's a trade coming up before or during the draft.

478
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Speaker 3: Certainly trades during the draft as far as picks go,

479
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Speaker 3: But I'm talking about for a player.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule that out either. I wouldn't rule anything

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Speaker 1: out with Nick.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me you with this question. Percent chance. Yeah,

483
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Speaker 2: that whoever they take at number twenty eight, taking all

484
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Speaker 2: the things that we've talked about, percent chance, and whoever

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Speaker 2: they take it number twenty eight. Now keep injuries and

486
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Speaker 2: all that, just say everything stays on track. What's the

487
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Speaker 2: percent chance the player they take at number twenty eight,

488
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Speaker 2: is a starter on day one a week one of

489
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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six season.

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Speaker 1: Ten.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was thinking. I was thinking ten percent,

492
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Speaker 2: because I think I think it's ten it's all injury related.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, an old lineman starting day one. I don't

494
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Speaker 3: care who it is. It would have to be injury

495
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Speaker 3: related unless the guy's so all world. And you and

496
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Speaker 3: I were talking beoutfore the show, because I was asking

497
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Speaker 3: you how long did it take Quenton Nelson to turn

498
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Speaker 3: it to full Quenton Nelson and you mentioned half a season.

499
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Speaker 2: About halfway through the year, they kind of made a

500
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Speaker 2: change with their philosophy, want more to run game.

501
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Speaker 3: And that's when he really took off. And Brayden was

502
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Speaker 3: on that team too, Brandon too, So you got to

503
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Speaker 3: keep that in mind. This is Quenton Nelson six pick

504
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Speaker 3: in the draft. Texans are picking twenty eight. Now I

505
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Speaker 3: have a list here, just very quickly, Johnny, some of

506
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Speaker 3: some of the greatest guards in the history of this

507
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Speaker 3: game were not taken in rounds of note. Really, they're

508
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Speaker 3: notable in that they were lower than you would think.

509
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Speaker 3: Like jarr Evans, right, he was taken in the fourth round.

510
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Speaker 3: Think about that for a moment. Marshall yonda good guard. Yes, question.

511
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Speaker 3: He was taken in the third round. Walt Sweeney was

512
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Speaker 3: taken in the second round.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, I might have more here. Zach Martineau, he

514
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Speaker 1: was definitely taken in the first round. He was supposed

515
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Speaker 1: to be Johnny Manziel in twenty fourteen. Oh, that's right,

516
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Speaker 1: he was the pick.

517
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Speaker 3: How about Larry Allen, the size of a small planet,

518
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Speaker 3: taken in the second round Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: All right, so you have guys like this Will Shields.

520
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Speaker 1: Is he any good? He was taken in the third round.

521
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Speaker 3: So it's all possible, and it might not happen right away,

522
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Speaker 3: but it's all possible. And that's why you can't freak

523
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Speaker 3: out of anything. Yep, guys take time to develop. Sometimes

524
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Speaker 3: they hit it right away, or if they don't take

525
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Speaker 3: an old lineman in the first round, don't freak out either, because,

526
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Speaker 3: as I just pointed out, some of the greatest players in.

527
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Speaker 1: A history of the game at that position we're taken later.

528
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Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is Nick and Dimiko have

529
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Speaker 2: built this team for now like they're they're ready. But

530
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Speaker 2: I think to extend how good this team can be

531
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Speaker 2: if you draft somebody in these rounds in the first, second,

532
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Speaker 2: third round, where everybody wants to see them play right away,

533
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Speaker 2: but they have to sit behind somebody or they get

534
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Speaker 2: limited reps because in a rotation, like if they drafted

535
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Speaker 2: in tier defense lineman, don't care who it is. They're

536
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Speaker 2: not starting over rank in toky I. They're not. No,

537
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Speaker 2: they're just not gonna do it. They're not starting over

538
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Speaker 2: to Neil and Will. However, Devins line guys, they could

539
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Speaker 2: make it a lot.

540
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Speaker 3: They could be impact players to tackle and all of

541
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Speaker 3: a sudden, it's hey, wait a minute, exact guy. He's

542
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Speaker 3: getting into the backfield, he's getting TFLs, he's getting sacks.

543
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Speaker 1: He's gonna play more.

544
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Speaker 2: But it's okay if that pick number twenty eight or

545
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Speaker 2: even thirty eight doesn't see the field right away.

546
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Speaker 1: Let them grow.

547
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Speaker 2: The Texans have that opportunity to draft high ceiling players

548
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Speaker 2: and let them grow and let them mature and let

549
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Speaker 2: them be ready for the spotlight when it's time. And

550
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Speaker 2: that's why they've built this team. It's pretty amazing. Now.

551
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Speaker 2: Dan Brugler in the fourth round has the Texans taking

552
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Speaker 2: to Carrio Davis, a big, long, long reek Woolen l

553
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Speaker 2: like Corner from out of Washington start his career at

554
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Speaker 2: Arizona to Caryo Davis would be an interesting one. In

555
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Speaker 2: the fourth round, the Texans have made some great picks

556
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Speaker 2: in the fourth round. We need to do our top

557
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Speaker 2: five in the history to franchise. We'll do that next

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Speaker 2: right here in Texans All Access. Welcome back to our

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Speaker 2: Wednesday edition the Texans All Access from the Honday Texans

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Speaker 2: Radio studio, John Harris alongside the Voice of Texans Mark Vandermer,

561
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Speaker 2: we have been counting down our top fives from each

562
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Speaker 2: round in Texans history. In the draft, we did six

563
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Speaker 2: and seven together, we did round five. We noticed with

564
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Speaker 2: round five that there were a lot of years that

565
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Speaker 2: there was not a fifth round pick after dropbacks to

566
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Speaker 2: Ramon Walker. The first year, there wasn't one. In two

567
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Speaker 2: thousand and three, there wasn't one in two thousand and four,

568
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Speaker 2: there's one in two thousand and five, not one in

569
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Speaker 2: two thousand and six. So it took a while for

570
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Speaker 2: fifth round picks, but fourth round picks it is where

571
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Speaker 2: it's at in this Texans in Texas history. Now we

572
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Speaker 2: go from let's go from two thousand and two on up,

573
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Speaker 2: because there are some guys you look at and go ooh,

574
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Speaker 2: Now this is where you're a big help to me

575
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Speaker 2: because I didn't get back here to Houston until two

576
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Speaker 2: thousand and seven. So the first few years, and ironically

577
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Speaker 2: one of them is easy, easy enough. But two thousand

578
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Speaker 2: and two Jonathan Wells running back, he.

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Speaker 1: Was pretty good.

580
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Speaker 2: But the better, if you will, was a year later.

581
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Speaker 1: It was a year later. Dominic Williams. Dominic Williams has

582
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Speaker 1: to be in a tough five. Dominic Davis Williams.

583
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Speaker 3: He's gotta be tough five because the name did not

584
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Speaker 3: change to Williams until after he was finished playing, so

585
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Speaker 3: it's very confusing. He's just listed as Dominic Williams now

586
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Speaker 3: in all the Texans historic documents, but I know him

587
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Speaker 3: as Dominic Davis and all the highlights. When I was

588
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: calling these games, I wasn't like Dominic Davis. Someday he'll

589
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Speaker 3: be named Williams runs to the ten to five touchdown.

590
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Speaker 3: Dominic to me is a top five pick easily in

591
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Speaker 3: fourth round Texans history. He had three seasons where he

592
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Speaker 3: was at or near one thousand yards.

593
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Speaker 1: He was a machine. He was an undersized back out

594
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Speaker 1: of LSU. They went to him.

595
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: Probably too often, and I think he got a little

596
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Speaker 3: worn out. Three really good years and then that was it.

597
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Speaker 3: That's all she wrote. He joined the Dolphins for like

598
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Speaker 3: ten minutes and that was it. And I only haven't

599
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Speaker 3: seen him since he followed me on Twitter once upon

600
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Speaker 3: a time. I think I messaged with him a little bit,

601
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Speaker 3: but I haven't seen at any Legends events. I'd love

602
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Speaker 3: to see Dominic coming to town this year, being the

603
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Speaker 3: twenty fifth season in Texans history, when we have a

604
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Speaker 3: big celebration.

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Speaker 1: He played forty games.

606
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Speaker 2: He had one hundred and fifty four receptions, so he

607
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Speaker 2: almost had forty receptions a year.

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Speaker 3: Car used to just dump it over the middle to Dominic.

609
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Speaker 3: It was a money play, was super easy. You want

610
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Speaker 3: to talk about taking the pocket change, but that was

611
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Speaker 3: like seventy five to eighty cents.

612
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the dollar right there.

613
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Speaker 3: You'd get some good production out of him just dumping

614
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Speaker 3: it over the middle and him going whoop, getting a

615
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Speaker 3: little yak, and then let's go.

616
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Speaker 2: Thirty one to ninety five rushing yards, twenty three touchdowns,

617
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Speaker 2: almost thirteen hundred receiving yards, five receiving touchdowns, I mean

618
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Speaker 2: twenty eight touchdowns and essentially three seasons.

619
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Speaker 1: That's good, and he averaged over one thousand yards a season.

620
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Speaker 1: This was a really it wasn't even ready fifth.

621
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Speaker 2: Seasons, mark, it was forty games.

622
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Speaker 1: That's rick Gosh.

623
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Speaker 3: Somebody was Oh the Texans posted from the account Johnny,

624
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Speaker 3: this is a whole other show. Maybe we should say

625
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Speaker 3: this the most underrated picks in Texans history. Oh yes,

626
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Speaker 3: but people I thought misinterpreted the word underrated. They were

627
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Speaker 3: saying when Daniels, that's not underrated. He's fantastic guys who

628
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Speaker 3: were picked and maybe underappreciated, not really known for their

629
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Speaker 3: college years as much as what they would do for

630
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Speaker 3: the Texans at a lower pick.

631
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Speaker 1: I don't know I explained that badly, but we can

632
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Speaker 1: go over that another time.

633
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dominic Williams is Dominic Davis. He's I think

634
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Speaker 2: definitely top five, no question about that. Then Glenn Earl

635
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Speaker 2: played in thirty seven games in four oh five.

636
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Speaker 3: Was Jerome Mathis Pro bowler one year wonder He returned

637
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Speaker 3: kickoffs brilliantly. He had several returns for touchdowns in two

638
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Speaker 3: thousand and five, a horrible season for the Texans two

639
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Speaker 3: and fourteen, and yes he did make the Pro Bowl,

640
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Speaker 3: but that was basically it. I can't even remember what

641
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: happened to him the next year. He might have been

642
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: off the team by that point, but that was a

643
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Speaker 3: heck of a two thousand and five for Jerome Mathis six.

644
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Speaker 2: Catches in his career, but it was the kickoff returns.

645
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was a big thing. Okay, let's get

646
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Speaker 1: to another.

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Speaker 2: I get in top five, no doubter, best tight end

648
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Speaker 2: and team history owned Daniels in the fourth round, pick

649
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Speaker 2: number ninety eight, which nowadays would be a third rounder

650
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Speaker 2: the comp picks. Yeah, but back then he was a

651
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: fourth rounder two thousand and six. I don't think there's

652
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: any question o d four hundred and seventy nine receptions,

653
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: fifty six hundred and sixty one yards, thirty six touchdowns

654
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: in his in his career. Now that that covers everything

655
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: his entire career. But you said before, he's the best

656
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: tight end in team history as a fourth rounder, he's definitely.

657
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: He and Dominic are definitely in the top five. Two

658
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: thousand and eight Xavier Dbie. I thought Xavier was going

659
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: to be a really really good player.

660
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: Gift over Fred Bennett like he was on fire. Oh

661
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: I miss Fred Bennett. My bad my bad. I didn't

662
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: see you on seven. Fred Bennett. I love Fred.

663
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: I remember watching Fred and Jonathan Joseph. I was a

664
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: big Fred fan. I was really excited. So when that

665
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: draft happens in O seven, I'm coming back to Houston

666
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: and seven, so I'm really excited.

667
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: I thought Fred Benett was going to be the steal

668
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: out of that draft.

669
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to be that guy, and

670
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: it just didn't ever really kind of come together. It

671
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: was the other corner at South Carolina with Fred Bennett

672
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: that eventually would pay off for the Texans. You know.

673
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: My highlight to remember for Fred Bennett was in a

674
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: preseason game against Dallas. I want to say it was

675
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: eight and Bennett I think it was on the number

676
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: two defense at the time and picked off Tony Romo.

677
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: The Cowboys left their starters in.

678
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: It was old days of preseason football, left their starters

679
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: in in the third quarter and Romo was picked off

680
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: by Bennett.

681
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: And that's my Fred Bennett highlight. It's a preseason game.

682
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: It's a preseason because something about whether he makes his

683
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: top five or not. Yeah, his numbers, as far as

684
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: I int he had five interceptions.

685
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: Three is rookie year, that's pretty decent and two the

686
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: second year, but then it drops off dramatically.

687
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: He doesn't play as much.

688
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: Oh wait, Xavier debe I just thought Xavier was going

689
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: to be a player. I just I missed on that.

690
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: That was tough hear because I was convinced Dwayne wasn't

691
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: a player. I was convinced that Dbie was, and it was.

692
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: It was flipp Dwayne was a super started that one wrong.

693
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: I just I just got it wrong though. Two thousand

694
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: and nine, Okay, Anthony Hill. Love Anthony Hill, but you

695
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: know he played twelve games. But the pick they took

696
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: ten spots before a young man from New Mexico named

697
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: Glover Quinn.

698
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: Yep, Glover Quinn started out as a corner, turned to

699
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 3: a safety position, eventually left.

700
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: The team goes to the Lions.

701
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 3: I think I can't speak for Rick Smith, Bob McNair obviously,

702
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: I can't speak for him or head coach Gary Kubiak

703
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: at the time, but I think if they could do

704
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: it all again, they would have kept Glover Quinn around,

705
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: not gone for the Ed Reid experiment. And I'm not

706
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: saying that changes twenty thirteen, but I'm thinking it does

707
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: something it does something because Glover should have been a

708
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: Texan for life in my opinion, But he's definitely maybe

709
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say definitely for now, I'm definitely putting him

710
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: in the top five of the fourth rounders in Texans history.

711
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: You mentioned Anthony Hill, wonderful Texans legend and ambassador, great guy,

712
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: wonderful member of the community, business community. So good for

713
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: him and Daryl Sharpton at twenty ten, Darryl Hurricane, Love you, Darryl.

714
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: Garrett Graham also in twenty ten made one of the

715
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: greatest touchdown catches I've ever seen in person in Carolina

716
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: Week two against Cam Newton and the team that would

717
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: go to the Super Bowl. Garrett Graham makes a one

718
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: hand in the back of the end zone. That's still

719
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: I could I could see it, and I'm like, huh,

720
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: he made that catch a guy new Garrett Graham had

721
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: some skill and was very very good. That that catch

722
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: is not made ninety nine times out of one hundred. Yeah,

723
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: and yet he made it that day. Twenty eleven. We'll consider,

724
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: We'll keep Garrett Graham. We'll see where this goes. Rock

725
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: Carmichael No fortunately no now twenty twelve had a trio

726
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: one guy. Actually this was not bad. Keyshawn Martin could

727
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: have a just you know, yeah problems. Thought it was

728
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: gonna be a little better than it was. But then

729
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: the two Trenches players Ben Jones at center, Jared Crick

730
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: defensive alignment, very good starter, rotational piece early in his career,

731
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: kind of grew into a nice player. Shorter career. Ben

732
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 2: Jones excellent career. But I think a lot of people

733
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: when you say Ben Jones, they go, oh, Titan center.

734
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: He's recognized more as being a Titan, which, again to

735
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: your point about glober Quinn, ben Jones should have stated damn.

736
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: Texans for as long as possibly should have been.

737
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: Yep, you had other issues with Brandon Brooks coaching not

738
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: coaching so much, but just look, maybe it was a

739
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: marriage that needed to end.

740
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: Ben Jones.

741
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: I really feel like that should have continued, should have continued,

742
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: didn't continue.

743
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: It is what it is. Krick, all right, you move

744
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: al to twenty sixteen. I remember this, but I remember.

745
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: Doing the show and Trovardo Williams comes up on the

746
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: board out of Yukon. But he'd never really materialized for

747
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: the Texans either.

748
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: He played three games.

749
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was twenty I was twenty. That was twenty

750
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: third thirteen. Yeah, okay, so now we have kind of a.

751
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: We got Tom Savage, Tom Savage, Baby, I love Tom.

752
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: But no then twenty fifteen Nobody, twenty sixteen Tyler Irvine

753
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 2: happy about this. At the time, I was very happy

754
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: this because I knew this dude was fast at really fast.

755
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: But it it did not, It did not work out.

756
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: Julian Davenport Carlos Watkins in twenty seventeen. Julian started a

757
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: few games, but it really his presence is what led

758
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: to Laramie Tunsil a couple of years later. That's that's

759
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: why they traded Kiki q t was a fourth rounder

760
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, and it looked like it was gonna

761
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: be Qt, hop In Stills and that trio is gonna

762
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: be as good as and we talked about it all

763
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: off season, Right, this is gonna be freaking fantastic. Watson

764
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: with Keki uh Will Fuller and DeAndre Hopkins, they're gonna

765
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: go off and.

766
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: He's a good fourth round pick. Though you take a shot,

767
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: I know, nobility just didn't happen. Over the long hang, it.

768
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: Just should have been a lot better than it was.

769
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: How about the first he's hurt for a while. His

770
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: first game back in twenty eighteen, he sets a record.

771
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: Do you remember we went to Indianapolis, Oh and we

772
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: were three catches. He had never he had never played.

773
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: He had played in the first three games, he became

774
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: a Colts kill and all of a sudden he cut

775
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: eleven passes. Then he got eleven passes against the Colts

776
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: later in the year. It was, it was, and he

777
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: ended up as a cult. He did end up as

778
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: a cult, which is weird. No fourth rounder in twenty nineteen,

779
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: Charlie heck John Reid in twenty twenty. Look, Charlie did

780
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: some good things as a swing tackle.

781
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: Good fourth round pick for an all while good, you know, okay,

782
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: no doubt about it, because look, you're not expecting him

783
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: necessarily to start as a fourth rounder.

784
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: But he can play. He could play spots starter, He

785
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: did all that, He did all that, and he's still

786
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: done in the league. Yeah, your fourth rounder turned in

787
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: Nico Collins in twenty twenty one, so technically he can't

788
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: do that in twenty twenty two. In fact, there are

789
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: only four fourth round picks that Nick has made. Damian

790
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: Pierce Dylan Horton, Kate Stover, Woody Marks. Okay, so in

791
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: the last three makes the top five out of that group.

792
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: So we've already got Dominic, Davis is in there, and

793
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: then we've got Owen Daniels for sure.

794
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: We got those two, were sure, Glover Quinn, I've got

795
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: all right. So here's my list.

796
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got Owen, Dominic, Garret Graham, Glover Quinn, and

797
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: Ben Jones.

798
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: I have five in my top is that five? I've

799
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: got five? I got five.

800
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: I didn't put Mathis in because there's no sustained excellence.

801
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: There is there anybody else I'm missing? I think that's it.

802
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: Ben Jones, I think belongs based on even what he

803
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 3: did here as a text in as far as a

804
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: fourth round pick goes.

805
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: So the question becomes of the four names, the four

806
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: fourth rounders that Nick has drafted, right, who's going to

807
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: be better Damian Pierce, Dylan Horton, Kate Stover, Woody Marks.

808
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: Does anybody on the list get bounced for any of

809
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: those four?

810
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: No? Pierce one year, fantastic, kind of like a Steve

811
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: Slaton year, right, right, really, but it never happens again.

812
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: Dylan's still on the team, so incomplete, still on the team.

813
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: Let's see where it goes. Robbie turns into a ten

814
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: year player.

815
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

816
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: Cade same thing is just going into year three. Let's

817
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: see what happens. And wood He's going into year two

818
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: and he had a great wood He had a great,

819
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: great start. If he can keep that going, that would

820
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: certainly be worth mentioning. But right now, Dominic Davis historically

821
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: has more years and a better resume than Woody Mark.

822
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: So it's Owen Daniels, Dominic Davis, Garrett Graham, Dominic Williams Davis,

823
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: Garret Graham, Glover, Quinn, Ben Jones.

824
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: Top five fourth rounders in Texans history.

825
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: Wood he had last year two hundred and twenty touches, receptions,

826
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: in carries, okay for nine hundred eleven yards. Now, I

827
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: flipped my lid when Woody got drafted because I was

828
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: so pumped. I loved Woody in Mississippi State and he

829
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: went to USC. I was a huge Woody Marks fan,

830
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: and I lost it. It's the fourth round. We didn't

831
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: know what was gonna happen with Joe Mixon. But if

832
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: you'd have told me on draft day that day, Hey,

833
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: what he's gonna have two hundred and twenty touches for

834
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: nine hundred and eleven yards and five touchdowns.

835
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: That would have been like, what awesome? Are you serious?

836
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: I'll take that all day every day.

837
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: And he split time with Nick Chubb obviously, and Nick

838
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: started most of the games, so you have that dynamic.

839
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 3: We did have Joe Mixon ever in twenty twenty five.

840
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 3: But okay, that was a really good start for Woody marks.

841
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: Yes, very very maybe we can build off of that,

842
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: and it may because you've got the presidence of David Montgomery. Now,

843
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: it may not be two hundred and twenty touches for

844
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: nine hundred eleven yards. He may have more receptions, less carries,

845
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: but he might have a more of a touchdown impact.

846
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: You may score more than five, it may be more

847
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: in the receptions.

848
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 3: What's the what's the percentage carries split Montgomery versus Marx carries,

849
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: not catches or touches.

850
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: Carries.

851
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: My gut says sixty forty. I was just gonna say

852
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: that that's that's kind of where I went just initially,

853
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: like I think, let's say there's let's say there's three

854
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: hundred carries amongst them, Montgomery gets eighteen, one hundred and

855
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: eighty wood he gets a hundred twenty Yeah, something like that.

856
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: I could see that maybe as the season.

857
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: Goes on, just depending on where, you know, some games,

858
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: some games, you Montgomery's coming off a twenty five carry game,

859
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: you know, the next week, Hey, let's bring that back

860
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 2: down to fifteen. Let's get Woody up to you know, fourteen, fifteen,

861
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: et cetera. There might be games in which wood he

862
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: gets hot, you know, hot. He might be a hot

863
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: hand sort of thing, right, who gets hot against this

864
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: particular defense, you know, maybe against the Packers. Montgomery is

865
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: so used to playing against the Packers. Hey, maybe that's

866
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: a heavy usage game for him.

867
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: And here's the thing.

868
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: In two weeks, we could be revising these numbers based

869
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: on who they draft. Mike Washington, let's go, baby, look

870
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: at you man, You're on my train with that yeah,

871
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 3: generium price.

872
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: In fact, we were talking about Dane Bruger's mock draft

873
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: a little earlier, kind of saying, hey, how would you

874
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: feel if the Texans drafted you know, some offensive guys

875
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: or offensive gy a number twenty eight, potentially an offensive

876
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: lineman and he doesn't start right, it doesn't play a

877
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: lot right away, but pick for number fifty nine. He

878
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: has j Darien Price coming to the Texans, which I

879
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: would be thrilled you.

880
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 3: Draft a running back relatively early. He's gonna play some. Yeah,

881
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: and by some I mean quite well. I mean and

882
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: that's the thing.

883
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: With a wide receiver, a tight end, and a running back,

884
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: those guys are you're gonna have that guy get on

885
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: a field at some point. It's just that with an

886
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, you hope there's not a rotation.

887
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: You just hope that you got a feeling.

888
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: Johnny, they're gonna they're gonna make some trades to get

889
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 3: some picks next year.

890
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. That was one of

891
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: your theories.

892
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: That's what he sat my theory all along get those

893
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven picks. I read Jordan Schultzy hat a

894
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: tweet saying that teams teams up in the top ten

895
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: are wanting to move out, and it makes sense. You

896
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: want to move out, you want to get some draft capital.

897
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: But they're not getting many takers because not a lot

898
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: of them want to move up and give up, and

899
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: they want to give up their twenty twenty seven first

900
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: rounders and second rounders, et cetera. And I did this

901
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: last night with Cody and and John when I was

902
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: on their podcast. I carry this on my It's in

903
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: my notes app. But I do my computer too. But

904
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: I already have twenty twenty seven's draft already started.

905
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: Just like names.

906
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: Just when I think of them, I put it around.

907
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, quarterback running back wide at

908
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: a different level. The wide receivers are a different level.

909
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: I mean, like at a completely completely different level. All right,

910
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: we get back.

911
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: We'll go around the NFL news and notes from.

912
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 2: The sport you love and the team you do adore.

913
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: We'll do that next ray here in Texans All Access

914
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: stepping everybody, Welcome back this final segment of a Wednesday

915
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: issue at Texans All Access from Theday Texans Radio Studio.

916
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: I am your host, John Harris foot painalfs sideline reporter

917
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: for your Houston Texans getting ready for the Draft on

918
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: Thursday evening, not.

919
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, a week from tomorrow.

920
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: And every time I say that, every time I have

921
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: said that for the last week and a half, I thought,

922
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm I'm out ready. I'm not ready,

923
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: but yet I'm ready. We were talking about Dan Brugler's draft.

924
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: Good friend of mine who does things at the athletic

925
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: his The Beast is a great draft guide. I've got

926
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: your draft information if you want it at football takeover

927
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: dot com. Less expensive than others. Hopefully you'd sign up.

928
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: And I appreciate your time. But he did his mock draft,

929
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: and I'll give you a little funny anecdote in a sense,

930
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: we right before we went to Mobile. I went to

931
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: Mobile for the Senior Bowl. I was watching Diner's Drivings

932
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 2: and Dives and Food Network. It's one of my favorite shows.

933
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 2: I love. You know, whenever we go to a city,

934
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: you know, we're playing a game and I like to

935
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: check out, you know, where has Guy Fieri Ben That's

936
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: how I'd like to go. So I was about to

937
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: turn the show off, and then he said, we're going

938
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: to a place in Mobile Atbama's Like, okay, got check

939
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: stick around for this. This barbecue joint is called meat Boss.

940
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: Meat Boss cool name. Never been there, Figuremobile small enough.

941
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: So I had an issue with my car. Hit a

942
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: hit something in Baton Rouge and I blew out my

943
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: tire and so I had to get it fixed. So

944
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: I got it fixed, and I had plenty of time

945
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: because they fixed it a lot earlier in.

946
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: I thought, and I was like, oh man, yeah, meat Boss.

947
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: Let me go to meat Boss. So I find it.

948
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: It's not all that far from South Alabama, where the

949
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl was taking place. I walk in, wonderful woman

950
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: helps me with ordering. I get all set, all done,

951
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: I grab my drink. I go to sit down and

952
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: I see Dame Brugler and I see my buddy Fran Duffy.

953
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: He does draft where he's phenomenal from all Philly. He's

954
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 2: been on this air before. We had him to Combines. Great.

955
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 2: So I sit down with Dane and with Fran, and

956
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: of course they start picking my brain and I tell

957
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: them I'm like, look, I don't know which way we're

958
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: gonna go. This is more before a free agency is like,

959
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: here are some of the kind of positions I think

960
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: we're looking at. I said, but whenever you do your

961
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: mock draft, make sure that you keep in mind guys

962
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: that are swarmy guys that have football character through the chart,

963
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: off the you know, through the roof, off the charts.

964
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: Those are the guys you should be mocking to. The

965
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: Houston Texans. Well, This is Danes Mockwell. We already talked

966
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: about this a little bit. First round twenty eight Chase

967
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: Besontas guard from A and M. Second round thirty eight

968
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: Cash is how the edge for A and M. Everything

969
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: I've heard about those two, they are absolutely that. They

970
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: are swarming as hell. Third Darian Price, running back Notre Dame.

971
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 2: You know how much I love Price, and I feel

972
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: like you just can't have enough guys that can do

973
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: good things with football. Third round number sixty nine Tyler

974
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 2: and Needham from Texas, A and M transfer from Iowa State.

975
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: I'll let you put that together. Very underrated defensive tack.

976
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: I think it's a little high for him. Fourth round

977
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: to Carlo Davis, a Rik Wooling sized corner front of Washington.

978
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: Fifth round Josh Cameron says, wide receiver, but he's kind

979
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: of a weapon ax. He does a little bit of

980
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: everything for Baylor. Then Harrol Perkins from out of Cypress area,

981
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 2: who had committed A and M then went to LSU.

982
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: I think in this defense he played special teams to start,

983
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: and then you kind of have this freakazoid athlete that

984
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 2: you could do things with that could get very intriguing

985
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: and seventh round one of the Titans.

986
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: I really love Matthew Hibner from out SMU.

987
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: I think i'd be a really a really good pick

988
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: at two forty three going tight end seventh, seventh round

989
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: for the second year in the row. Last year's Luke

990
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: cliche this year would be Matthew Hibner. Good job, Dane.

991
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: I like what you put together. All Right's news around

992
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: in the NFL Dolphins GM johnnyck Salvian says Devon h

993
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: Chan not available for trade.

994
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: Not happening now.

995
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: I think when the Texas went out trade for Dave Montgomery,

996
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: the dream in some sense for some of you, Von

997
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: h Chan out the door. Not gonna happen, though they're

998
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: keeping him in house. The commanders unveiled new unis, and basically,

999
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: in unveiling those new uniforms, they went back to the future.

1000
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: They basically went back to the uniforms they've been wearing.

1001
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: I will say this, if you haven't seen their black uniform,

1002
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: it is sharp. It is one of the best all

1003
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 2: black uniforms that I've seen. It is really really sharp,

1004
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: very cool looking.

1005
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: So go check that out.

1006
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: New York Giants dexter Lawrence stare Down. Apparently it will

1007
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: be played out by the draft. That is gonna be

1008
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: a fun one to watch, no question about that. Dallas Cowboys,

1009
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: they've got George Pickens, franchised him.

1010
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with him?

1011
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 2: They haven't received a call about a George Pickens trade,

1012
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: and I think that's got more to do with nothing

1013
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys, but just Pickens reputation. So looks like

1014
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: Cowboys might be stuck with George Pickens. It's not a

1015
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: bad thing, but it's a lot of money to seee

1016
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 2: Lamb and George Pickens as they go through. So appreciate

1017
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: you guys for being here with me. We'll see you tomorrow,

1018
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: have the general on with us, and tomorrow will be

1019
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: one week from the NFL Draft, and then all speculation,

1020
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: all the mock drafts can end and we can find

1021
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: out who's gonna be Texans for twenty twenty six.

1022
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: Well see tomorrow, buddy, And was always go Texans.