WEBVTT - Drive Time: Cam Brown Interview and NFC North Preview 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.120 To on the move, Glan Deep Speedwys Peace do Hell 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:10.400 from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:18.440 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. He's got my advands 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:29.479 in the playoffs. What is up Dolphins? And welcome to 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.839 the Draft Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis Wingfield. 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.800 And on today's showed, the preview series continues on into 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.080 the NFC North, a very fascinating group of teams. Here 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.160 we'll go through the Lions, Packers, Bears, and Vikings, run 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.400 it all through the Dolphins lens and chat with one 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.280 of the I think most under the radar signings the 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:53.040 Dolphins made this offseason, in linebacker Cam Brown. From the 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.520 Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:57.160 This is. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:04.120 The Drive Time Podcast. Dash off the top. As you 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.160 can tell, I think maybe some great news. I feel 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.800 so much better, And I waited until Monday morning to 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.039 record this podcast because Saturday wasn't a lot better, Sunday 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.200 wasn't a lot better. But finally on Monday, starting to 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.840 feel a little bit better. And as the entire office 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.000 took the week off, I'm back working because I was 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.200 so sick last week that I fell behind my schedule. 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.920 So with that, we jump into a division that I 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.280 think features some teams that we can learn from, and 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.120 we'll go ahead and try to do that right now 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.080 with the team that I think every Dolphins fan kind 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.680 of wants to follow the same timeline in terms of 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.320 the Dan Campbell build and where he got in year 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.080 three compared to where Mike McDaniel wants to get the 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:47.400 Miami Dolphins in year three. The Detroit Lions, and they 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.560 finished last year twelve and five. They won their division. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.640 They lost in the conference championship after opening a twenty 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.520 point lead in the first half of that game. Just brutal. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.440 Get at me on Twitter. Tell me if the Dolphins 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.840 did that this year, if they made the AFC Championship 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.800 game and had a three score lead and ended up 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.840 losing the game, how do you react to that as 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.080 a Dolphins fan. I don't think I can handle it. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.400 I think the teams that haven't been there, the fan 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.680 bases that haven't been there, I don't think we can 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.040 handle that. I guess Lions fans probably couldn't handle that. 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.880 Maybe they didn't, maybe they maybe they don't exist anymore anyway. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:26.280 And just like that it is a different tune with 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.400 the Detroit Lions, is it not. I mean, I think 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.440 one of the more commendable builds in modern NFL history, 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:36.160 because in modern history teams don't stay as patient for 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.880 as long as that team did. They developed an identity, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.840 they kept grinding away at it. They built their team 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.080 inside out, which was a little bit scoffed at, especially 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.640 last year in the draft they took on a quarterback 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.520 that was completely given up on. I have never liked 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.640 Jared goss game, even when he was balling with the Rams. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.720 I still thought there was deficiencies to his game. But 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.720 he has really taken the next step as a quarterback 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.640 and playing the position of quarterback there and rehabilitated his 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.160 career and turned him into one of the top twelve 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.840 quarterbacks in the National Football League, which I kind of 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.840 think in and of itself is instructive in a league 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.440 that is lacking patience in so many ways, in so 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.800 many ways at so many key spots right and for 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.160 this team, they had key elements of the rebuild all 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.519 over last year's success. Pine Seuwel was kind of the 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.480 guy that jumped started the whole thing when they took 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.200 him very high in the twenty twenty one draft. He 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.680 anchors one of the best offensive lines in the game. Actually, 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.639 it is the best offensive line in the game. They 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.720 added weapons all over in the draft with Jamir Gibbs, 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.680 which again was laughed at, but I thought it was 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.480 I loved Jamiir to me. Last year there was two 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.560 backs that were different than everybody else named Jamiir Gibbs 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.360 and von A chien cofigure I'm and Ross Saint Brown clearly, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.960 also with Jamison Williams Sam Laporta, and then that defense 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.840 made big strides too, though as we'll see in the concerns, 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.360 it's not done just yet. And you might call the 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.400 Dolphins last time they played the lines, it was up 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.760 and down the field for two a Tyreek Waddell and 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.160 the A couple of losses to a then five hundred 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.560 Packers team and a bad Bears team after an eight 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:09.000 and two start, had some of those same old Lions 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.840 conversations percolating. But then they win three of the last four. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.480 They win two playoff games, they which, by the way, 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.760 real quick. Sometimes winning playoff games is as favorable as 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.880 your draw, right, And granted, you know, good for the 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.880 Lions they won their division, and that Rams team was 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.479 no easy out, even though I picked against them all year. 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.240 That was a good Rams football team they beat. But 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.280 then they get the Bucks in the divisional round. Can 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.360 we have that? Can we get the Steelers at home 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.320 in the divisional round this year? That would be a 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.240 guaranteed trip to the conference championship game. They build that 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.640 huge lead in their conference championship game, and now they 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.520 have the challenging task of finding out how to surpass 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.920 those final thirty minutes of football to get into the 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:50.599 biggest game in all of sports and then try to 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.239 win a sixty minute contest against the other best team 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.479 in the NFL. And frankly, I thought their offseason was 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.640 fantastic and they're gonna have to try to find, you know, 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.080 find out how to become to take that next step, 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.279 really because there's so many steps along the way. But 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.839 I feel like when you get to that level of accomplishment, 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.599 you win your division, you win some playoff games, you 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.120 get that close in a big game against a great 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.520 team the Niners, I don't feel like you have to 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.160 kind of like recreate some magic. Maybe that's just who 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.640 you are at that point. The players, they brought in. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.520 I mean, this is a fantastic offseason. DJ Reider is 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.919 one of the best run stuffing and just space eating 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.960 nose tackles and has some pass rush in his game 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.880 in the NFL. On the outside, they go out and 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.640 get Marcus Davenport, who I think is kind of a 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.560 nice third, you know, a third pitch in your bag 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.720 to Aiden Hutchinson along with John Kaminski and even Josh 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.960 Pascal had some nice reps last year. Carlton Davis and 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.400 a Meek Robertson is a good, you know, move in 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.440 the right direction at cornerback, especially when you pair that 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.760 with first round pick Terry and Arnold, who I thought 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.400 was maybe the best corner in the draft. Quiny and 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.440 Mitchell probably was for me, but Arnold was right there 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.640 neck and neck with with Mitchell and then Kevin Zeidler 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.840 on the offensive line, which just fits their mold. And 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.919 I hate the loss of Chauncey Gardner Johnson, although he 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.080 rarely played last year, being injured most of the season, 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.600 Josh Rends was a nice number three receiver for them. 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.400 Jonah Jackson goes to the Rams. That's probably the biggest loss, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.960 and that's a big downgrade gold Zeitler, or from Jackson 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.840 to Zeitler. They lose Benito Jones here and zach Ertz 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.400 to the Washington Commanders. What do they do well? I 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.960 think you know by now, and the whole biding kneecaps 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.839 thing is actually kind of legit. They win in the trenches, 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.400 they run the football, they stop the run. They built 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.800 it from the inside out, and they buy into this 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.160 grit mentality, right, they embrace it. And it's that's one 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.039 of those things where it's like so many guys have 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.839 come and said that. I think back to Joe Judge, 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.680 like what was he doing, Like having guys like dive 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.280 on loose footballs and there was some gimmicky thing he 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.479 did with the Giants, and it was like, oh, yeah, 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.279 that's a gimmick. But Dan Campbell lives it. He breathes it. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.520 He drinks two venti Starbucks coffees every single day and 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.680 he can't help but let those coffee beans course through 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.400 his veins and come out the other side as grit. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.520 They established a culture and funnel all of their decisions 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.159 through that lens. I think all the best teams do that, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.560 and the Dolphins do that as well, which by the way, 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.279 is develop skilled players, get an accurate, on time smart 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.240 quarterback who can take advantage of that and build your 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.160 team on the perimeter inside. So it's a different philosophy, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.840 different approach, and that's how these two teams are built. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.280 They create spacing in the passing game. Ben Johnson like, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.440 my goodness, how fortunate can you be that you have 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.320 a superstar coordinator who like doesn't have all that much 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.280 interest in leaving for a head coaching job. They're just 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.240 doesn't happen. That does not happen. But the Lions have that. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.200 They attack all levels of the field from different groupings 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.640 and looks. They can get you know, Sam laporta vertical 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.080 from twelve personnel. They can spread it out and get 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.520 Jamis and Williams down the three down the scene from 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.840 the three position. They're just really impressed from how they 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.800 can create their different looks and generate spacing because of 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.240 Ben Johnson, who just doesn't want to leave, it seems like. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.480 And they also develop their players, which all great teams 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.720 do that. Like I know, for fans, if a rookie 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.560 comes out and has his first game and it's not good, 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.400 you're gonna say he can't play or maybe for a 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.720 full season. Hey, he doesn't doesn't have it For an 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.240 Austin Jackson who struggled for multiple years, he can't do 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.520 it well. The best programs develop their players, and players 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.400 get better every year in those programs. And look, I 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.560 thought they should have gone to Jamiir Gibbs much earlier 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.840 than they did. Maybe they still regret that. I doubt 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:14.280 it because they were eight and two when he kind 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.320 of got his workload going. But they clearly have plans 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.680 for players and they stick to that usage and stick 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.960 to their guns. And he really broke out towards the 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.160 end of the year. Again he and h hm, maybe 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.160 my two ferret backs in all of the game. What's 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.040 the concern or fatal flaw here? Can they slow down 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.520 the best offenses in the NFL? Because down the stretch 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.120 last year it was kind of just like Hope and 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.960 pray defensively, and granted we talked about three big cornerback 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.720 moves they made to address those those glaring holes in 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.400 the defense, but it's been the Achilles Hill, you know, 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.520 down the stretch the last two years. Their depth was 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.160 exposed late. They are deeper now, but they're counting on 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.960 a lot of imports to solidify things, and sometimes that 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.400 doesn't always click right away or at all, but they've 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.240 also had a tremendous amount of success doing that with 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.319 young players. Also in the pass rush. Is there enough? 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.199 I know I talked about Marcus Davenport, but is there 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:05.240 enough beyond Aiden Hutchinson, Because John Kaminski and Josh Pascal 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.319 had really good years last year, but they have to 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.079 keep building on those years and all those defensive tackles 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:11.800 are greatest stuff in the run. You know, reader on 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.000 Woozy on WUSA, Rique like I loved his game out 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.000 of udub Levi on Musa Rik and Ali McNeil loved 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.360 his game from NC State too, But Marcus Davenport is 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:21.719 kind of the next guy in line at the edge. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.480 Rusher loved his game in college, didn't really work out 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:26.840 for the Saints, went to the Vikings for a year, 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.439 had a decent year. Is it enough? That's just I 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.839 guess if you're picking, you know, if you're picking at 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:32.960 this team, that's the question you have. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:33.240 There. 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.600 Some interesting things about this team are biggest story lines. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.400 They're the hunted now right right Like last year they 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.120 were coming off that impressive finish and it was like, well, 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.960 they were a darling eight and nine team, and maybe 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.120 they were nine and eight, I can't remember. But now 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:51.720 they're a twelve win Division champion, Conference championship game participant. 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.800 You know, Ham the Banner teams are coming after him now, 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.439 and the Packers got better and the Bears got better, 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.840 and well, you know they have to play from that position, 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:02.920 from that perch. And they had two games against the 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.760 Bears last year they should have lost, playing in kind 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.240 of like that spoiler versus a big dog rule that's 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.000 gonna be your entire year. This year they went won 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:10.760 in one of those Bears games, should have lost both 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.520 of them. But you have to learn how to win 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.240 games when teams give you their best shot every single week. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.320 Goff post extension, I just felt like that's always worth watching. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.120 I felt like he was playing with house money because 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:22.640 it was like, what else do I have to lose? 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.240 But now there are Super Bowl or bust expectations. And 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.000 once previously in his career, a team decided like, if 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:30.400 we're gonna get over the hump, we have to move 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.079 on from this guy. Can he not let history rewrite 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.280 itself there? And then also have they groomed a Ben 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.679 Johnson replacement. He's eventually going to leave, I would think, right, 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.280 But all of these issues, like our potential issues, are 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.120 like great things to have go against you, so I 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:46.960 don't think it's that big of a deal. My final 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.079 roster thoughts. There's so much to like, but I just 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:50.520 want to highlight the games that didn't come up here. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.400 Frank Ragnow one of the best centers in the NFL. 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.520 Taylor Decker's been a pillar a tackle for them. Jack Campbell, 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.840 I thought had a up and down rookie year, but 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.280 I love his physical profile, his athletic complex. He just 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.280 is a good looking linebacker. Alex angzelone, He's been making 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.400 plays for years. One of the first guys I scouted 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.400 at Locktown Dolphins actually Brian Branch, who had a fantastic 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.199 rookie season as kind of that slot and safety position 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.760 from Alabama. Kirby Joseph another guy that man the Lions 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.840 built Travis Wingfield's team. Kirby Joseph from Illinois has had 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.360 a fantastic start to his career, and I did mention 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.720 Jamison Williams. He's on the list. I think he's in 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.520 the breakout Star Watch list for me, what can we 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.320 learn from the Lions. Well, if there's a better trust 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.760 the process team in the NFL, show me, because there 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.480 there isn't. I'll admit I was quick to question what 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.520 they were doing, but they were might. They remained vigilant 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.000 in their approach. And I think we can learn from 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.400 how Dan Campbell grew and developed as a leader, and 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.680 he was transparent about that. And McDaniel has things that 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.199 he can grow and get better at, too, right, and 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.040 I think he will because he doesn't have the ego 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.360 that bogs him down. And I think he and Campbell 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.840 are similar in that mindset of like, I'm in this 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.120 position that look at all the resources I have, I 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.440 want to use those. It better not to bang my 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.040 head into a wall and be like I got here 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.080 because I'm the freaking man. No, I'm want to use 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.440 my resources. So I think that McDaniel can learn from that. 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.920 From Campbell, I think that he has that same mindset. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.199 So I'm excited about that. Been a quarterback, like I 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.200 don't know, man, Maybe players can change the mind of 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.640 the masses. The same people that sent Goff out to 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.160 pasture now praise him effusively. I'm one of those people 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.240 I thought he was. I thought he was awful as 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.520 a ram early on in his career. I thought that 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.120 he reverted back to that later on in his Rams career. 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.200 I thought his cow tape was bogus. I thought his 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.199 Hard Knocks appearance was was like, oh, you don't know 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.520 where the sun rises? Like, I was not a Jared 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:37.920 Goff fan, but now I can see that he's a 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.960 very good quarterback. Most of all, which, by the way, 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.160 like putting him like sixth and two of like fourteenth 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.319 is freaking hilarious. Most of all, I just like how 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.200 they've just kept adding and developing and helped turn over 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.160 one of the best rosters in the sport. It's it's 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.319 Dolphins light. It looks like the Dolphins of this offseason 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.560 as well. So what do you know? The Dolphins looking 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.600 to be the Lions this year. Next team on our 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.640 list here the Green Bay Packers. Seeing that I am 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.720 personally struggling to figure out where they're going to land 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.360 the most of the teams I've done so far. Last year, 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.199 they go nine to eight, They finished second in the 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.880 division after a really brutal start to the season. They 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.439 lose in the divisional round of San Francisco after playing 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.200 pretty much a perfect game against the Cowboys in the 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.520 wild card round. And for those keeping score at home, 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.920 all those people that think the Packers are this juggernaut 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.280 all of a sudden, who couldn't lose last year that 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.439 would not have been enough to get in in the AFC. 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.480 I just think it's important to recall context when we 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.560 start making these grand extrapolations of the final game or 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.959 two of the season. Yes, they blew the doors off 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.000 the hopeless Cowboys in that playoff game, and that was impressive. Yes, 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.480 their young quarterback got much better as the year went 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.679 along and took massive strides towards becoming one of the 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.360 best quarterbacks in the entire National Football League. But I 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.240 don't think that means you completely discredit or throw away 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.880 a Week two loss to Atlanta, or a Week five 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.480 loss to Vegas, or a Week seven loss to Denver 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.480 or the Sunday Night to Minnesota. Because early in the 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.360 year that offense was unwatchable, and then they weren't. It 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.880 began really on Thanksgiving when Jordan Love went off and 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.000 took it to the lines and beat them in their 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.120 own house. Then they beat the Chiefs on Monday Night Football. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.400 Then they lose the Giants and then the Bucks, and 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.880 then secure a playoff spot with a three point win 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.079 over Carolina. They blow out the Vikings with a third 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:17.959 stream quarterback, and then they get an eight point win 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.680 and only score seventeen points in the Chicago Bears at home. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:22.920 I think we're gonna see the Packers picked to be 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.160 that team this year. I'm just looking at the results 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.160 of that coming from the playoff game fair enough, impressive, 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.080 and then the two games that were nationally televised, one 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.320 being one of the games, it's the most watched every 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.320 year on Turkey Day. All three of those games get 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.440 insane ratings. So I guess I'm asking, will the real 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.600 Green Bay Packers please stand up? And by the way, 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.640 that took me like fourth times they get that correct? 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.640 Can you see that five times fast? Will the real 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.640 green Bay Packers? And you lifelongs know how I felt 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.880 about Jordan Love as a prospect, Oh buddy, if you 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.160 can figure out Twitter search these days and the elon era, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.320 which is just a horrendous website all of a sudden, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.400 if you can figure out how to search on Twitter 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.720 at Wingfold NFL, Jordan Love, go ahead and do that 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.680 because I loved his game and I still feel that way. 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:07.560 I just think we should look at the entire book, 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.840 not just our favorite chapters. Some big moves for the 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.920 Packers this offseason. They brought in Josh Jacobs, Xavier McKinney, 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.520 and Jordan Morgan was their first round pick out of Arizona. 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:21.440 Out is josh Niezman, guard John Runyon. They lost Darnell Savage, 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:25.080 David Bachtiari retired. I believe Aaron Jones is out, Devondre 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.600 Campbell is out, and so is Jonathan Owen. So lots 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.800 of turnover there in Green Bay. In terms of departures. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.120 What do they do well, stop me if you heard 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:34.800 this before. On this offense, they marry the run in 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.760 the pass. They utilize rare quarterback traits to expand the field. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.080 But how will that change going from Aaron Jones, one 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.280 of the best peer zone runners to Jacobs, who was 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.520 a little more behind the pads. Will they go more 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.960 man gaffed with the Niners and Rams have in recent years. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.920 I think that's kind of what that tells us. They 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.240 have evolving top targets in the passing game. They built 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.560 this thing with all these young pieces developed together, and 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.360 like the Steelers and Packers are so in the way 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.640 the draft receivers so well for so long. I mean, 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.880 who has developed better star talent on the perimeter than 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.720 the Packers last twenty years. And now they get Jaden Reed, 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.160 Romeo Dobbs, Dontavian Wix who looks like an absolute baller, 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.480 and Christian Watson was kind of the guy that was. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.840 He was taken before any of those dudes, and he 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.280 might be the number four right now with Jordan Love 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.240 too in the same kind of capsule of drafts two 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.560 or three years there for the foreseeable future, they have 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.920 all these guys on rookie contracts and that's gonna make them, 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.000 you know, able to build up other parts of the roster. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:32.960 And not to mention the last two tight ends in 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.120 the draft they took where Tucker Kraft and Luke Musgrave, 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.080 who both can play as well. Now I'm not sure 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.000 what they'll do on defense with Luke Hafley coming from 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.120 the college game, but they previously were so good at 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.920 gap control, winning one on ones, and that's done through prototype. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.520 They have these big, big edges and true two gappers 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.600 inside with both Rashaun Gary and Lucas van Ness and 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.840 Preston Smith on the outside, and then on the on 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.680 the inside with Kenny Clark and Devonte Wyatt and Carl Brooks. 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.880 They have those guys that can eat space inside too. 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.280 It's the concern or flaw on this roster. It has 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.440 to be the offensive line, which is strange because they 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.399 have like no money tied up in their quarterback and 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:11.320 receivers right now. They've had to bounce Elton Jenkins all 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.360 over the place, and this guy is a freaking all 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.919 pro wherever he lines up, and he's filled in for 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:19.359 injuries the last couple of years. Bakhtiars Tiyari has finally gone. 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:23.920 Him and his unreliable play and dubious politics. They're gone. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.280 But they'll look to first rounder Jordan Morgan to fill 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.240 that void, to get Jenkins and Zach tom back to 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.600 their original positions. And then they went out and got 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.159 Andre Dillard, which go Koog's but like, dude can't play 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.760 front seven depth. We saw it really really take a 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.880 hit with just one loss in Rashaun Garry. Last year. 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.360 They did draft Eddrian Cooper just two years after kway Walker. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:47.440 I was a big fan of his game, as well 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.640 in college, and that's kind of a sign that, hey, 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.080 it ain't clicking, Bubba. I think it's it's a big 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.920 year for the corners, Alexander and Stokes in particular. Jai 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.680 Year is a strange dude, and he's had some strange plays. 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:02.560 They're one injury and we are into players with completely unknown, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.000 unproven resumes. Some interesting things about them and biggest storylines 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.240 love and year two of a team friendly deal. Does 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.760 he push for the mega deal to get done after 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.919 breaking out down the stretch? Does an impact you know, 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.359 into the season. I doubt it, but we'll see not 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.800 a fantasy guy, but who emerges from the pack as 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.000 the guy. Like there's so many guys that are ballers 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.560 in this skill group and I want to say Dontavian Wicks, 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.399 but I sort of like them all. Michael Bolton finally 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.240