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Speaker 1: listening to the Velvet's Edge podcast. I'm here with my

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Speaker 1: recording multiple ones. Well, the cats out of the bag,

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Speaker 1: really been getting in my head. This is the first

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Speaker 1: because your perfection I am. I'm a perfectionist and this

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Speaker 1: I was sitting here for about ten minutes before we

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Speaker 1: started saying, how do I introduce myself? Is it a

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Speaker 1: I think that's what I went with. I tried to

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Speaker 1: Up flowed naturally tonight, so I'll probably switch that out.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing you guys can look forward to. Um.

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Speaker 1: But I brought Grayson just basically for moral support and

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Speaker 1: also because it makes it easier for me to talk

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Speaker 1: Grace will be coming around for a lot of the

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Speaker 1: I don't always think it's impressive when you have, like

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Speaker 1: I have zero idea. I would have to be highly intoxicated,

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Speaker 1: Edge visge dot com if you want to check it out.

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Speaker 1: Just a little more plug to get it in there.

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Speaker 1: But I hope you guys do tune in and you

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Speaker 1: go on this journey with me, and you will see

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Speaker 1: Grace again as I said, and much more to come.

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Speaker 1: So thanks so much for listening. Bye.