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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. Man,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Coast to Coast, George and Nori with you.

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Speaker 1: David john Olds with us. His websites are linked up

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Speaker 1: at Coast to Coast to AM dot com. David with

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Speaker 1: reverse speech. When has the computer age made it even

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Speaker 1: easier for you to decipher what's going on? Well, we've

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Speaker 1: got software that will help us locate the reversal, so

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Speaker 1: that makes it easier. But voice recognition hasn't developed for

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Speaker 1: the stage yet where a confine reversals yet they're very

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Speaker 1: difficult to hear. They're quite quick and fast amongst the

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Speaker 1: gibisk which is why I slow them down and you

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Speaker 1: have to have a really good ear. So at this

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Speaker 1: stage is still the hard work of sitting down the

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Speaker 1: desk's headphones on. But the software does make it a

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Speaker 1: lot easier. And where we even got a video software

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Speaker 1: and this is awesome that when you run the videos backwards,

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Speaker 1: the backward lip movements mouth out the speech for the

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Speaker 1: sez to see all these amazing, amazing bodied language leaks.

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Speaker 1: The video portion of it is just awesome. So so

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Speaker 1: whilst it hasn't helped me, particularly in speech. In automatically

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Speaker 1: finding reverse speed up the process and it adds quite

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Speaker 1: a huge dimension to the whole research in psychologically, Now

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Speaker 1: explain reverse speech. What is happening to the individual psychologically? Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: there's two ways to answer that. First, start just a

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Speaker 1: split second before we speak. The unconscious is as automanically

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Speaker 1: altering our speech patterns so that we're saying two things

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Speaker 1: at once. It's subtly altering, just very subtle sounds to speech.

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Speaker 1: They were saying one thing forward is obviously how I'm

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Speaker 1: talking to you now, and at the same time we

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Speaker 1: are playing something in reverse. Psychologically, I believe it's the

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Speaker 1: voice of our spirit talking many for a long time

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Speaker 1: I've said it's the unconscious mind, but that's just really

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Speaker 1: been a way to get it accepted. I really try

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Speaker 1: to keep the spirits out of it until just very recently.

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Speaker 1: But my real belief is it is our spirit. It

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Speaker 1: is a spirit roman communicating and constantly talking, giving us

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Speaker 1: the truth, giving us deep knowledge and wisdom. When I'm

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Speaker 1: working with my clients, because I do this for a living,

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Speaker 1: this is how I have a very active thera britic practice.

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Speaker 1: When I work with my clients, there will not be

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Speaker 1: a tape that goes by that does not have contained

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Speaker 1: some communication from the spirit to the conscious mind. So

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Speaker 1: psyching likely that's what's going on. This brain is unimentally

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Speaker 1: subtly aufering the sounds of speech. The two messes can

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Speaker 1: deliver it at once, and a spirit speaking backwards. Is there?

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Speaker 1: It does? And is there? Probably reverse speech in every

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Speaker 1: speech pattern that an individual is talking. Not everyone. No,

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Speaker 1: it depends on the level of or and natural free

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Speaker 1: phone nakes with the conversation. In private conversations, yes, you

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Speaker 1: will find reversals constantly every ten or fifteen seconds. When

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Speaker 1: you get to public speech, which is far more left

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Speaker 1: brain and ordered, the reversals will drop off quite significantly.

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Speaker 1: For that reason, media is very hard to do because

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Speaker 1: it takes a lot longer to find reversals. But yes,

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Speaker 1: they do occur in all speech patterns, but they will

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Speaker 1: vary in their frequency and their intensity depending on the

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Speaker 1: type of conversation that is taking place. Does the reverse speech,

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Speaker 1: David contradict what they're saying when they're talking. And here's

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Speaker 1: let me give you an example. You're at a party

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Speaker 1: Then you go up and compliment her and you say, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's very nice. But in reverse speech, are you seeing

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Speaker 1: the person may actually sense it. They'll sense, oh, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean what he's saying. You know, we get this

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Speaker 1: you know, Oh, it's nice to meet you. I wish

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Speaker 1: you'd go away to When When did they say the

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Speaker 1: reverse speech? And why don't we hear that? When we're

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Speaker 1: talking to these people, right, they will say it either

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Speaker 1: at the same time as the forward comment or immediately afterwards.

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Speaker 1: other discussion altogether. But no, generally the general rule of

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Speaker 1: own individual relationship with your mother will depend on what

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Speaker 1: I might Mum's marvelous, you might say backward, mum was

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Speaker 1: an old bag, you know. I mean, I'm just making

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Speaker 1: by the precise moment that the speech is taking place.

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Speaker 1: Is reverse speech admissible in court as almost like a

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Speaker 1: lie detector test? No, it's not. Personally, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it should be either. It's still too subjective to I

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Speaker 1: it for investigations. I think as an investigative tool, it's invaluable.

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Speaker 1: In the cases I work with. The police reversals have

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Speaker 1: given the confessions to the crime. They've real the location

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Speaker 1: been recognized in court as existing. This was a result

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Speaker 1: of the ninety ninety one trial of judath priests who

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Speaker 1: the backward matches did exist, and his ruling says they

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Speaker 1: show that they were subliminally suggestive. So judus priests prevailed

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Speaker 1: that yes, the verse speaks does exist. Back in the

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Speaker 1: of some Beatles music where they heard a phrase that

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Speaker 1: have always denied they did that deliberately. Percy. I don't

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Speaker 1: the messages are there, they can be quite heard quite easily.

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Speaker 1: What is what is the honest speech? The reverse speech

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Speaker 1: We have no control over over our reverse speechs we

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Speaker 1: do over our forward speech. The human conditions. We've been

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Speaker 1: The conscious resides in absolute truth, and even though we

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Speaker 1: way to communicate the truth. It does it a reverse speech,

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Speaker 1: it does it through body language, it doesn't through eye movements.

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Speaker 1: There's so many other ways which the unconscious communicates. I

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Speaker 1: and reverse speech is one of those ways. Have you

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Speaker 1: found in reverse speech, David, that what somebody says directly

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Speaker 1: so the two messages are the same. Yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: your first speech goal next? What's what's the next step

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Speaker 1: Um so so my my, so, my mission over the

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Speaker 1: It must be used. It's such an important technology and

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Speaker 1: ever needed at any other time in history. And reverse

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