1 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: This is live Cobbley Chump that twenty twenty six NFL 2 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: Combine on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Audio Network. 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: It is the Drive on location live at the Combine, 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: Indiana Convention Center on Radio Row, our spiritual home here 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: every end of February, and of course you all know 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: a big part of that is all of the awesome 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: guests that we get to talk to throughout this week. 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: We've got another one for you, our first one here 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: on the Drive today, Travis May eight is E Sports. 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: How you doing, Travis, Thanks for taking the time. 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 4: Great. It's always a really busy week, but so much 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 4: fun just taking it all in. I think I hit 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 4: up eighteen different podiums today. So just durilation overload right now, Okay, 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 4: sorting through it all. 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: And you'll stay for all the podium action? Is it 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff to be? 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: Because I mean, I'm the college football managing editor, and 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: so I just I'm here to get do my own thing, 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 4: but also get all this content for everyone else so 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: that they can do their writing, their videos. And so 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 4: I'm just content gathering, distributing, trying to find some angles 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 4: for some people to take advantage of this week, and 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: you know, because we cover all thirty two NFL teams 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: and sixteen college teams, it's just all not going on. 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: No, absolutely, So it's a topic we've had hit a 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: lot since we've been here, and it's only been a 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: day and a half now. 30 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: But the Steelers are so. 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: Wide receiver needy right now, and I think they'll sign 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: or trade for some brand name dude Romeo Dobbs, or 33 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: maybe they get Brandon Ayuk finally, but I definitely think 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna draft one in the top two rounds. Yeah, 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: and maybe even a fifth rounder on top of that. 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: They got a lot of picks. Do you agree with 37 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: the masses that this is a deep but not blue 38 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: chip receiver class? And how do you kind of rank 39 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: the first rounders? 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so. I mean, like even even the 41 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: first rounders, I wouldn't say that, man, that definitely looks 42 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: like a normal top ten pick, because the Carnal takes 43 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: even of the world, who is my wide receiver one? 44 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: Even he was a second fiddle on his own team 45 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 4: for most of his career and he was sharing targets 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: with first round picks. 47 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: Fiddle pretty good. 48 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: They're doing okay, But he's my watch slash. Yeah, you're 49 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: doing just fine. But I think I think he's the 50 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: top and he's not going to be there. Jordan Tyson's 51 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: not gonna be there for the Steelers. 52 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: You don't think he the one has any chance? 53 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think that the Jordan Tyson 54 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: Arizona State the medicals because he was hurt even way 55 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: back with his Colorado days, Like basically every single year 56 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: he's missing time something. If he is there, I think 57 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 4: it's worth the shot, even if there are some medical questions. 58 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: But mkay, Lemon, I think he's my wide receiver two 59 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: between those those three, just because I mean, he won 60 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: the Blatnikoff Award. He had all the tapes really good. 61 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, in the stats don't lie. I mean 62 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: he went all wide receivers in Power Conference play through 63 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 4: the end of the regular season, so, I mean, just ridiculous. 64 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: Beyond that, I really like Denzel Boston, and Boston kind 65 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: of just like feels like and looks like, uh. 66 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: Ste Boston at twenty one. 67 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: If he runs pretty decent here, I think could kind 68 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: of become Chalky Lock drafts and things like that. 69 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: I think so, And then after him, I really like 70 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 4: Casey concepts and he's i mean two point return touchdowns 71 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: last year too, So he had more value than just 72 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 4: being a wide receiver. 73 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: He was a little more juice those bigger body guy. 74 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's twitch here than any of those guys, I think. 75 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: And he was more of an underneath threat at Nancy State, 76 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: and even in his first year there, I think his 77 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: final season he kind of turned into more of a 78 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 4: complete players. Average set the target was beyond twelve yards 79 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: in his final season two. 80 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 5: So he wasn't gadgeting. He wasn't just a guy Georgia 81 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 5: guys kind of gag branch. Over half his catches last 82 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 5: year were screens, seriously over fifty value. That's really hard 83 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 5: to project to the NFL level. 84 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: So to Luther Burden a year ago exactly yea and his. 85 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: And he was, I mean, he's doing just fine. But 86 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: it's really really hard to project that type of player. 87 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: So if you're looking at somebody that is going to 88 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: be available in that range, you're probably in the first round. 89 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: You're looking at Conceptsion or Boston. And if you want 90 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: to look past the injury struggles, that think Chris Bell 91 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: is a first round talent. 92 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: But tell me more about Bell. He's not. 93 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked a lot of Bell over 94 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: the year, over the last couple of weeks. 95 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: So he was one of those guys who broke out 96 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: a little bit later. But he always kind of looked 97 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: like an AJ Brown almost, you know. And I know 98 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: he's ripped up. He's ripped very physical, and he is physical. 99 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: He adds yak and he can be a deep threat. 100 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: I think two years ago is when he averaged like 101 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 4: seventeen yards per reception, so he can really press it 102 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: downfield if you need so to me, when he's healthy. 103 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 4: If he were healthy fully right now, I think we'd 104 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 4: be talking about him going in the twenties, oh wow, 105 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: you know, to the Steelers, Whereas I think a lot 106 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: of people think more chalk is in that thirty to 107 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: forty range. But he's somebody that, depending again on the medicals, 108 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 4: if he could drop and be a great value for 109 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: a team or the Steelers or somebody else could just 110 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 4: be like you know what, we see the AJ Brown 111 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: type upside and just that's worth it so to me. 112 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: To catch and yes, some debo to him maybe yeah, yeah, 113 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: I haven't thought about that. 114 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: I think so too. Okay, So I think beyond that 115 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: there is there's a drop off. To me, I think 116 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: that it's pick your flavor after that. And so if 117 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 4: you're waiting a little bit after that first round mark, 118 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: you can kind of pick your spot, I think because 119 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: there are several, like you said, it's not necessarily blue chip, 120 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 4: but there's like after that first tier and a half, 121 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: there's probably fifteen twenty names, and I'm like, Okay, I 122 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 4: feel confident that they're going to be a role player 123 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: in the league for us. 124 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the their second pick is what fifty 125 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 3: or fifty one or three? 126 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty one plus thirty two, give or take. Would 127 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: the Indiana guys be there, or maybe Fields. 128 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: From Notre Dame. Any of those guys excite you. 129 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: Fields, It's funny. Maybe I'm wrong, but Fields is another 130 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: guy that just feels like a big bodied Steelers wide 131 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: receiver that would you know he can go up and 132 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 4: make those ridiculous one handed grabs and just you know, 133 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: the acrobatic, ridiculous stuff that we saw from I guess 134 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 4: Pickens and even back back say back in the day, 135 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: it's not that long ago. Like Martavis Bryant when he 136 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: was good, you know, So it's like, yes, yeah, exactly 137 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: so to me, and and you know, Claypool and the 138 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: Notre Dame time, maybe that's that's where it's coming from. 139 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: But yeah, Fields would be a good one. And I 140 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 4: see him going all over the place in mock drafts, 141 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: and when when I talked to scouts, he's over the 142 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: place from you know, oh, yeah, he should go in 143 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: mid second round, and then others like, well maybe early 144 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 4: day three. So I don't know where he's going to go. 145 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: You think his forty is going to be a big 146 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 3: determining factor on him. 147 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: If he even runs. I'm not sure he's going to 148 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: be the one that that does. But he's one that 149 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: I would be interested in. Omar Cooper. You mentioned the 150 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 4: Indiana guys, and Omar Cooper and j just sur and 151 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: sat a lot A lot of people thought he was 152 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: the better wide receiver coming into this last year, but 153 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 4: Cooper was the one that actually shined in some of 154 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: the most pivotal moments for the team. And so I 155 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 4: think that's kind of flipped. And so he might not 156 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 4: even be there for the second pick you guys have. 157 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: I think he might be in the mid thirties that 158 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 4: kind of rank makes sense, but sarat could be there, 159 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: Fields could be there. Beyond that, I don't know what 160 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 4: type of bodies you're trying to pull in, but there's. 161 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 3: As a big after little guys. You know. 162 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: I think they'll probably let Austin walk and Roman Wilson 163 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: hasn't really worked out. I would think that led you 164 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: keep mentioning Steeler body types. Yeah, someone big with. 165 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: Metcalf, Yeah, because there's there's several in that next tier 166 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: of intriguing options. I mean, even like Bernard's not a 167 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 4: big guy out of Alabama, Antonio Williams out of Clemson, 168 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: he's not a big guy. Kevin Coleman Missouri had a 169 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 4: ridiculously impressive senior Bowl. Uh, and you know he's he's 170 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: probably not the body type that you're looking for, but 171 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: if you want somebody who can do it all, he's 172 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: got the the concentration grabs and he plays a lot 173 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 4: of different roles. He's not just a slot guy. Especially 174 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: in his Mississippi State season. He played for four different schools. 175 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: By the way, for the unfamiliar, that's unbelievable. Yeah, he's 176 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: got an interesting story because I don't know if you remember, 177 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 4: you know, Travis Hunter went with Shudor Sanders and Deon 178 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: Sanders to Jackson State. But the other guy in that 179 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 4: class was Kevin Coleman. 180 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so that's where he started. 181 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin Coleman. He was the top one hundred player 182 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: in that recruiting class by himself, but he was kind 183 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: of afterthought because Travis Hunter being that the five star guy, 184 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: he got all the attention. 185 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: But Sanders got a little attention, yeah, a little bit. 186 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: But it was it was who won All Conference honors 187 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 4: for the position at wide receiver that first year in 188 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: the MIAC and it wasn't Hunter. And so that to me, 189 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: says man, he produced there, he produced it well, well, 190 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: he produced it at Mississippi State and then he it 191 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: was immediately wide receiver won at Missouri. Kind of a 192 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: situation we we haven't really seen before, like maybe ever. 193 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really ste is crazy, succeeding at every at 194 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 2: every stop. 195 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I mean, that's weird. 196 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna to look into him more. That's interesting. 197 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is very interesting. 198 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 2: It is Travis May with us here on the Drive 199 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: eight to Z sports. Is there a day three? Nobody's 200 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: talking about this guy? But I really got a crush 201 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: at him. I think he could be a fifth or 202 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: sixth round. I know that's asking you to cast a 203 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: pretty wide nut, but in terms of a wide receiver 204 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 2: that you think, you know, this guy's not going to 205 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: go in the top three or four rounds. But I 206 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: think he's better than he's perceived. 207 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the low hanging fruit easy one would 208 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: be tire Montgomery, who's not even here this week. He 209 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 4: had a really great Senior Bowl. He was kind of 210 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 4: where's she from? Oh my gosh, James Carroll, Oh yeah yeah, 211 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 4: and so he. 212 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: Just showed a couple of bodies that went that's not 213 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: far from home. Yeah. 214 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: Nice. He went to the All American Bowl, leveled up 215 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: and made to the Senior Bowl and at least the 216 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 4: day one of practice, it's really impressed. And so a 217 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: lot of the people I talked to are blown away 218 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: about what he was able to do. That's one. But 219 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 4: then Barry and Brown Lsu started at Kentucky. He was 220 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 4: another high pedigree guy could have started. He had all 221 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 4: the offers from everywhere. He could have gone to Alabama, 222 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: but instead he was like, no, I believe and stoops 223 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: what he's doing, goes to Kentucky breaks the SEC record 224 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 4: for return touchdowns, by the way, and always according to 225 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: the GPS, has always breaking twenty one miles an hour, 226 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: twenty two miles an hour, has that kind of crazy speed. 227 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 4: Didn't really put it all together the way that we 228 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: wanted to see from him in his final year for LSU. 229 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: The offense was kind of broken last year. I mean, 230 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: Brian Kelly got fired, but. 231 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: Baryon Brown, yeah, or for no smyre right. 232 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: But in terms of raw ability and just unmatched speed, 233 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: I think if anybody is going to be in the 234 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: conversation of breaking the forty record, it's going to be 235 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 4: him or Brendan Thompson at Mississippi State says that the 236 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: Mississippi State guy here and he has a chance, and 237 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 4: he's another one I like too. But Marion Brown, just 238 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 4: his dynamic all round play. I think it's very underrated. 239 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: And you think a lot of those guys are day three. 240 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: I think so to day Brendan Thompson, because like if 241 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: he runs a four to two four or something crazy, 242 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: which is possible, he's a drag star. Maybe he goes 243 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 4: a little bit earlier. But both those guys should be 244 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: available in that round five is range. 245 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: We even talked a lot of tight ends or running 246 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: backs because I don't think the Steelers are heavily in 247 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: the mark, especially for tight end. But do you have 248 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: a han Cho's going to be running back? Two who'should 249 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: be tight end too? And just talking to people over 250 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours, I didn't realize the depth 251 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: and the invitees of the running backs is really low 252 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: this year and the total opposite of tight end. That 253 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: there's a ton of them here and there's some interesting 254 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: Day three guys that just might fall. 255 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, the tight ends have a bunch of balls of 256 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: clay that they could still be molded into something special. 257 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: I think that there's there's gonna be a ton of 258 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 4: guys taken in that Day three range at tight end, 259 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 4: and I'm not sure if the Steelers need one at 260 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 4: this point. They have a few, but I don't think 261 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: they got a lot of picks. Yeah, But I like 262 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 4: Michael Trigg. He was supposed to be a big deal 263 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: at a couple of different stops. I mean he started, 264 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 4: I guess USC didn't come to fruition there ole Miss 265 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: Baylor kind of put it all together, Baylor and and 266 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 4: showed that potential that like five star recruit type of 267 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 4: you know, early round tight end potential that I think 268 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: we talk yeah. 269 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: A lot of I went to WU so I watched 270 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: a lot of Big twelve football and he's a freak. 271 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so to me, I'm not sure if he's 272 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: not in two. I like Stours just a little bit more. 273 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: And being the Purdue guy, I like Max Claire just fine, 274 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: even though he you know, went to Ohio State. We 275 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: won't talk about that after no, I went to Purdue 276 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 4: the soul. Yeah, Claire was there first before Ohio State. 277 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: And so, yeah, Trader, that's fine. But uh, I think 278 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: that it's probably gonna be a ton in two Claire 279 00:11:59,360 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: or the. 280 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: Guys go into Michigan State Purdue in a couple of days. 281 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 4: It's good basketball, not not so much football with but 282 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 4: uh uh but yeah, man, but I think that's probably 283 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 4: But it's a tight end class, yeah, absolutely, And and 284 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: that was on display at the Senior Bowl as well. 285 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's not a position that many teams are 286 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: going to take two. So I wonder if like the 287 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: six round rules around and the Steelers are like, we've 288 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: got a fourth round grade on this guy. We don't 289 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: need a tight end. We've already made ten picks. Let's 290 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: just grab him because he's too good to be true. 291 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Tanner Tanner Cozy o from Houston might 292 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: be that available in that range. I'm trying to think 293 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: of a few others that would be there. But it's 294 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: an interesting class at tight end for sure. But running back, 295 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: we knew it was weaker. Yeah, so it was basically 296 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 4: Jeremiah Love and everybody else. I do like Jonah Coleman 297 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 4: quite a bit. He's just a bowling ball covered in knives, 298 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: you know, running down the field and so like he's 299 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: gonna take you out, and uh, he's really fun to 300 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 4: root for. Emmitt Johnson Nebraska, I think he would. He 301 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: should have had more Heisman votes actually than he did 302 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: this much. He's super productive and superceived, right yeah yeah yeah, 303 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 4: and things weren't perfect around him either, So, like I 304 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 4: think that gets over, especially with running backs. If they're 305 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: producing despite the lack of surroundings, that's that's that's horrible. Yeah, 306 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: And so beyond that, if Nick Singleton looks like the 307 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 4: version of himself, you know, the best version of himself, 308 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 4: and he's fully healthy and he's you know, he's breaking 309 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 4: the GPS at his size. You know future backfuield that 310 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: that's that's somebody he could be in the running back 311 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: to conversation too. 312 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: But the fifth, sixth rounds not as good as it's been, 313 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: especially like last year. 314 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 4: No, I mean we're I mean normally you see, like 315 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: what twenty ish running backs go off the board. Maybe 316 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 4: deeper class you might see twenty five. This could be 317 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 4: one of those mid teens years in terms of overall 318 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: now picks at the position. 319 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, you know, the podium earlier 320 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: today linebackers, Yeah, the middle linebackers, the off ball linebackers. 321 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: Does this feel like one of the more talented, one 322 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: of the more deeper classes at that position that we've seen. 323 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: Obviously you've got the big headlining names, particularly the two 324 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: guys out of Ohio State, but it feels like even three, four, 325 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: five guys behind them have a chance to be really 326 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 2: solid NFL players. 327 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 328 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: I think about like Anthony Hill Junior Texas Texas. I mean, 329 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: he was supposed to be a big deal, and he 330 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 4: still is a big deal, but in this class he's 331 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 4: kind of an afterthought because of the ridiculous upside of 332 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: a Novel Reese or Sonny Styles or a CJ. Allen. 333 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: He might have been like middle linebacker one in a 334 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: couple of these previous years. 335 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and so to me, you know it could he 336 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 4: be a little bit less stiff in coverage, absolutely, but 337 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 4: the energy that he brings is infectious. He was a 338 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: huge part of the recruiting process there for Texas. He's 339 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: going to be a leader, he's going to be a 340 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: quick learner. He's a smart guy, and he has all 341 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: the trades. So to me, that's somebody i'd be, you know, 342 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: clamoring to get my hands on if I'm a an NFLGM. 343 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: And I've seen him dropping a little bit in recent 344 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: mock drafts and I have no idea why, because he 345 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: shouldn't be at all. 346 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: It's just made because there's so many quality players with 347 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: the position or. 348 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: Probably but then you get past him and you're talking 349 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: about Jacob Rodriguez, who he plays with a ridiculous edge. 350 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: He makes a million so much fun to watch play football, 351 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, and plus he's gotten awesome mustache, So yeah, he. 352 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: Looks like he's playing an eighties cop and an action. 353 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: That's the look. 354 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: I was like, what is it, that's it. But it's 355 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: funny just seeing him and Lee Hunter even like talking 356 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: back and forth. They both play with this wild edge 357 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: to their game. So he's really fun. Josie Trotter, A 358 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 4: few of our staff at eighty his Sports were really 359 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: impressed by him at his podium today throughout the process 360 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: in his film matches coverage isn't his bag? No, yeah, 361 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: neither is same with Jake Golday of Cincinnati. But you know, 362 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: and that's why they're available around Yeah. 363 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I. 364 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: Think you know, you're talking about more like two down 365 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: players and players for now or something. But but even so, 366 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: that middle round range has a bunch of guys that 367 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: if you overlook one thing, like, okay, he could be 368 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: a starter for a long time. 369 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: Okay, So I've been trying. 370 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: I've been squinting really hard to try to find a 371 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: mid round quarterback that in two years could be the 372 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: Steelers next franchise guy. 373 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: And it's hard draft. 374 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean not Schmyer's probably gonna be gone before I'm 375 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: willing to pull a trigger. But I keep coming back 376 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: to Aller and Peyton and and think at least there's 377 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: traits here for these guys. Totally red shirt him, maybe 378 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: hangs out and learns from Aaron Rodgers for a year 379 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: or two and maybe have something. Is there anything to 380 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: be mined out of those guys? 381 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 4: I think so? I think I think what last year, 382 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: even Drew Aller, we were looking at, Hey, he could 383 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: be a first round pick. Yeah, and this. 384 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: Quarterback lass would be so great because cub Nick and Aller, Right. 385 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would have been nice. Next year, next year, 386 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 4: always next year, that's it. 387 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: But fream beer tomorrow. 388 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: Yes exactly. But Drew Aller, I think he said, has 389 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: all the traits that you want to see as he 390 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 4: super hyper mobile, not necessarily. 391 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty heavy footed, right yeah. 392 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 4: But even so, he does to me feel like a 393 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: Steelers quarterback. 394 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: I mean he feels like, hey, if you big and 395 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: physical and big. 396 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: And physical, you mold him into being the next Well 397 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: that's probably not gonna make him Roethlisberger, but you know 398 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 4: that might be a little bit yeah, really hard. Yeah, 399 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 4: and just just see the build, you know. Okay, sure, 400 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: but I think that would be a safe play. I'm 401 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 4: not as high on Peyton I know you are if 402 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 4: I was. 403 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm just excited because he's an athlete and he's big, 404 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: and yeah, there's not many like him. 405 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. If I if I want to throw in like one 406 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: more name in the hat, I'd say Sawyer Robertson a 407 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 4: Baylor Yeah, yeah, you know he you know, he was 408 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: supposed to succeed in the SEC. Things didn't go that well. 409 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: He transfers over and has two good seasons. And he's 410 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: not a crazy mobile threat himself either, But I was 411 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 4: really impressed by his arm, talent and decision making. And 412 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 4: to me, he feels like somebody who's gonna be in 413 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: the league a long time, even if it's not a starter. 414 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 4: So I'd be looking at Robertson out of Baylor. 415 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: But you agree with the masses that next year has 416 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: a chance to be crazy. Oh yeah, that's really the 417 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: year to go shopping. 418 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 4: You know. Let's let's hope it doesn't fall apart like 419 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 4: did this past year. 420 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: So there's so many names, would be shocking. If it does, 421 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: it would be ten or twelve of them. It seemed 422 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: like they could be in the first round. It's it's 423 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: gonna be better than this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yea, 424 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: yeah for sure. 425 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: Travis may eight is e Sports kind enough to join 426 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: us here on Radio Row. 427 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 4: Thank you. 428 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: For your time. 429 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, guys. Enjoy the rest of the 430 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 4: week you as well. 431 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: Sure we will contach a neighboring table over here, right, 432 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: that's right, it's in good neighborhood. 433 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 4: It's a good are. 434 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: They put all the cool kids over here and this front, 435 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: front and center. We'll be back with more when we return. 436 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: West Shooler Matt Williamson live on Radio Row. It's our 437 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: combine coverage Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.