1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: From Futuro Media. It's Latino USA. I'm Maria ino Josa. 2 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: The Latino electorate has long been considered a sleeping giant 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: in US politics. This year, that giant is bigger than ever. 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: About thirty two million Latinos and Latinas will be eligible 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: to vote in twenty twenty, making us the second largest 6 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: voting block in the country, and judging from the results 7 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: in the first states that voted, that giant is very 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: much awake. 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: I call him fo Bernie. 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: And making its presence felt. 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: And you cannot win a Democratic nomination without having the 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: support of browns and blacks, and I feel very good 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: about both. 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: That's former Vice President Joe Biden speaking with journalist Jorge Ramos. 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Vermont Senator Burne Nie Sanders has prioritized organizing in Latino 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: and Latino communities, and that investment turned him into an 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: early front runner once the voting got underway in Nevada. 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: We have just put together. 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 4: A multi generational, multi racial coalition which is gonna not 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: only when in Nevada, it's gonna sweep this country. 21 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Latinos were critical to his victories in Nevada and California, 22 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: and even in places like Iowa that are pretty white, 23 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: even though the Latino population there is growing quickly. Going 24 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: into Super Tuesday, the large field of Democratic primary candidates 25 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: suddenly shrunk to just Senator Sanders and former Vice President 26 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. 27 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: Well, when he got to Superjuday be over. 28 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: Well maybe our forever guy. 29 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Biden's campaign has really largely on votes from African Americans, 30 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: especially in the South, and overwhelming support for the former 31 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: Vice president in states like South Carolina gave him a boost. 32 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: Biden's performance among Latinas and Latinos has been weaker. His 33 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: campaign has been scrambling to expand outreach in these communities. 34 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Coming out of Super Tuesday. On the so called Big 35 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: Tuesday or Super Tuesday two primaries, Biden had another good 36 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: day with victories in Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, and Idaho, where 37 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: he now has expanded his delicate lead. 38 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 3: So to come back to the soul of this nation. 39 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 3: This campaign is taking off, and I believe we're going 40 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: to do well from this point on. 41 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: As the race narrows down, Sanders path to the nomination 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: seems increasingly challenged, in spite of his emerging coalition of 43 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 1: young voters and LATINX communities. 44 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 5: While our campaign has won the ideological debate, we are 45 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 5: losing the bay Oval electability. 46 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: On this episode, I'm joined by Sonya Diaz. She's the 47 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: founding executive director of the UCLA Latino Policy and Politics Initiative. 48 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm also joined by my colleague, he's the co host 49 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: of In the Thick podcast with me and our resident 50 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: Wonk on all things related to Latinos and politics. Julio 51 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: and Sonya are gonna dive deep into the data to 52 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: help us understand the state of the LATINX electorate in 53 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: what has been a whirlwind race so far. And ESA 54 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: heads up. We recorded the first part of this conversation 55 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: just after Super Tuesday. So, Sonya, you and your colleagues 56 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: at UCLA's Latino Policy and Politics Initiative, you guys have 57 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: been crunching the numbers on the Latino Latina vote after 58 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: every primary, and you've been documenting this on your Twitter 59 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: feed because you guys are like serious political nerds. So 60 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: there's this picture sure of you guys with your laptops, 61 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: You have your dog with you. What has been standing 62 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: out for you so far? 63 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks so much for having me. 64 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 7: We are crunching away the key takeaways is voters of 65 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 7: color have really solidified the Democratic contests. What the polls 66 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 7: and our data at UCLA have been consistent about is 67 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 7: that both black voters and Latino voters have two candidates 68 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 7: that are there candidates of choice, and that's VP. Biden 69 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 7: and Senator Sanders, and we're looking at the narrowing of 70 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 7: the contests where voters of color have chosen. 71 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: Julia, what about you when you're crunching the numbers, what's 72 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: your big takeaway? 73 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think one of the biggest things when you 74 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 8: look at the voting in California and Texas. You know, 75 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 8: in the California border, which is San Diego County, in 76 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 8: Imperial County, Sanders won that. 77 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: He won that vote. 78 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 8: And in Texas, I counted like sixteen border communities, Sanders 79 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 8: fourteen of those. And I thought that was really fascinating 80 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 8: because in the twenty sixteen cycle with Hillary Clinton, you know, 81 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 8: she ran away with California in a lot of ways 82 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 8: and also with Texas. So this whole notion of the 83 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 8: Sanders campaign reaching out to Latino voters in places where 84 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 8: they lost and realizing that, you know what, a lot 85 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 8: of young Latinos were kind of into our campaign in 86 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 8: twenty sixteen, So let's invest, let's go out and outreach. 87 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: So so, Sonya, when you look rit large in terms 88 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: of kind of the power of the LATINX vote and 89 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: the way that it has been growing slowly but surely 90 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: over the past years, and now in twenty twenty, LATINX 91 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: voters are expected to be the largest group of POC 92 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: voters in this election. What would you say has been 93 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: the influence of the Latino vote in determining the winners 94 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: in the states that have voted so far. 95 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, when I think about twenty twenty, I 96 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 7: can't help but think about twenty sixteen and then twenty eighteen, 97 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 7: twenty sixteen because of lessons learned by different major party 98 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 7: political candidates and how they sought to get the Latino 99 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 7: electorate going into twenty twenty, and in particular, Bernie Sanders 100 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 7: did an about face in terms of his Latino operation, 101 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 7: which he and his surguts have said is core and 102 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 7: fundamental to his entire campaign these days. That said, you know, 103 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 7: the Latino electorate was consequential in the twenty eighteen midterm elections. 104 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 7: At UCLA, we looked at the forty seats that were 105 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 7: flippable from Republican control to Democratic control in the House 106 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 7: of Representatives, and we saw that in half of those 107 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 7: seats there were large numbers of Latino registered voters, and 108 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 7: Latinos were consequential to flipping the House in eighteen and 109 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 7: recognizing that infusion of resources to the Southwest and two 110 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 7: Latino communities and Latino voters was very late. Public opinion 111 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 7: polling had shown throughout the eighteen contests that Latinos were 112 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 7: not getting door knocks, they hadn't been outreached, they weren't 113 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 7: getting calls and campaigns. We're doing what they typically do, 114 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 7: and not just campaigns but major political parties, and that's 115 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 7: ignoring the Latino electorate. And going into twenty twenty, some 116 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 7: people saw the writing on the wall and wanted to 117 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 7: believe in data and science and alter their campaign trajectory 118 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 7: and strategy. Instead of just going to likely voters. They said, 119 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 7: let's think about expanding the electorate. And I think that's 120 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 7: what this campaign and this race for the White House 121 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 7: and down ballot is really about. Are you going to 122 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 7: expand the electorate? Given the wide numbers of Latinos and 123 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 7: Asian Americans who are aging in to the voting booth 124 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 7: and think through how you can properly get them the 125 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 7: information and ask them for their vote so that they 126 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 7: turn out. 127 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: So, Jula, would you say that if you stand back 128 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: and you look at what Sanders has done with Latino 129 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: and Latina voters, that that's what his strategy has been 130 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: has been to really understand the way in which Latino 131 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: and Latina voters potentially could come out. 132 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's part of it, Marianna. 133 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 8: And I think we can say that Sanders is probably 134 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 8: the only Democratic candidate in this cycle who has actually 135 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 8: put the money into this and has said, like, this 136 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 8: is a strategy. 137 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: So there's a part of me that says, what if other. 138 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 8: Democratic candidates had done this, would we be having a 139 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 8: different conversation? Right Number two, Maria, I just want to 140 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 8: call attention to a Pew study that came late December 141 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 8: that talked about Latinos and how they feel about certain issues, 142 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 8: and eighty two percent of Latino Democratic voters they believe 143 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 8: that the government they should take a more active role 144 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 8: in solving problems. Right, so you have eighty eight percent 145 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 8: of them support the minimum wage being raised of fifteen 146 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 8: dollars per hour and eighty four percent of them believe 147 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 8: that the government is responsible for providing healthcare to all Americans. 148 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 8: Those three policy positions are part of the platform of 149 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 8: Bernie Sanders, all. 150 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: Right, So clearly it appears that Latino voters have been 151 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: a driving force for Bernie Sanders in these primaries, but 152 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: ultimately it is Vice President Joe Biden who has more 153 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: states and more delegates. Now, so at this point, has 154 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: there been a Biden campaign approach specifically targeted to the 155 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: Latino community. Do you think that because of his success 156 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: that Latino and Latina voters might also jump on the 157 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: Biden bandwagon or will there be too much baggage and 158 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: hard feelings? 159 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 8: So I think, you know, when you look at the 160 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 8: Biden strategy overall, right now, it's kind of the Obama coalition, 161 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 8: but it's not really the Obama coalition. It's black voters, 162 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 8: suburban white voters. I think, you know, college educated, a 163 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 8: little bit of white working class, so you know, but 164 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 8: what's really missing is, you know, the largest ethnic electric 165 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 8: in the cycle, which are Latinos. And I think that's 166 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 8: going to raise some issues because in talking to so 167 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 8: many people, Maria, you you know, we're out on the 168 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 8: road a lot. We're talking a lot of people. There 169 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 8: is this feeling of quasi betrayal that the Obama Biden 170 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 8: administration did not deliver an immigration reform, continued to push 171 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 8: immigration enforcement. And I think when Biden finally had that 172 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 8: interview with jrge Ramos a week before the Nevada Caucus 173 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 8: and called the entire you know, Obama deportation legacy a 174 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 8: big mistake. And I went to Nevada and everyone saw 175 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 8: through that in talking to voters who are still having 176 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 8: sort of this uneasiness with him. And it's not just immigration, 177 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,479 Speaker 8: it's housing, the fact that during the Great Recession, Latinos 178 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 8: lost a lot of wealth and they didn't get home relief. 179 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 8: Also healthcare, Latinos are still the most uninsured group in 180 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 8: healthcare even with Obamacare. So this whole like Obama legacy, 181 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 8: I do think it's much more critical with Latino voters 182 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 8: and they're not ready to like stand behind Joe Biden. 183 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: You know, you've talked to voters. I've talked to voters. 184 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 8: There's people like, if Biden is the nominee, I'm not 185 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 8: going to vote November, and that to me is just 186 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 8: that's a problem. 187 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: So Sonya what do you think that Biden needs to 188 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: do at this point in terms of locking in Latinos 189 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: and Latinos. 190 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that the Latino electorate is sophisticated, so 191 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 7: we need to be engaged. He needs to start throwing money. 192 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 7: Money needs to go into key states Arizona, Georgia, Florida. Now, 193 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 7: in terms of tactics, I think that the Sanders campaign 194 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 7: has given a framework for how any political party, issue 195 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 7: based campaign, or personal campaign can meaningfully engage voters of color, 196 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 7: including and especially Latinos. It's invest early, meaning throw resources 197 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 7: in filled operations, make sure you're hiring locally, including people 198 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 7: from community based organizations or political interest groups that are 199 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 7: in the local community. And then think through what kinds 200 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 7: of science you want to send to that state or 201 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 7: to that electorate in Iowa, which is ninety percent white 202 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 7: and should not be the first in the nation primary. 203 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 7: The Sanders campaigns first mailer was targeted to the Latino 204 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 7: electorate in California. I'm just astonished that Senator Sanders was 205 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 7: in the Coachella Valley. We don't even have governors in 206 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 7: the Coachella Valley. And what he's saying is that poor 207 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 7: people matter and Latino voters matter, and these are communities 208 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 7: that are like Flint, Michigan, that don't have potable water, 209 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 7: and so for Latino voters it's a matter of engagement, 210 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 7: but it's also issues what are you doing for them? 211 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: So after a Super Tuesday, which really was a defining 212 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: day in this primary season, if you looked at a 213 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: map of where each of the candidates won, you basically 214 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: see this strong support for Biden all in the American South, 215 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: basically up to Texas. Then west of Texas it was 216 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: Sanders who was pretty dominant, and Julio. You've commented a 217 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: lot about this that it looks like the country is 218 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: kind of divided in half, and Texas is that middle point. 219 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: So what do you make of this split with Biden 220 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: getting support from African Americans in the South and Latino 221 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: voters in the southwest supporting Sanders. 222 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 8: You know, it's a great question, Madia. I've been thinking 223 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 8: about this a lot, pretty much to a t all 224 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 8: the Latinos in the western and southwestern states, maybe a 225 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 8: third of them lean Democratic, then a third of them 226 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 8: lean independent. So I do think there is this independent, 227 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 8: critical attitude that is out in the West and the Southwest. 228 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 8: That has said, you know, Democrats don't take me for granted, 229 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 8: but on the eastern part of Texas and particularly the 230 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 8: south right, the traditional Democratic South, you kind of have 231 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 8: to realize that the Democratic Party has invested millions and 232 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 8: there's a history. You know, the black Democratic voter has 233 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 8: a legacy in the Democratic Party, whereas I think in 234 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 8: the West and the Southwest that's just starting to happen. 235 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 8: And I do agree with Sonia, like whatever happens with 236 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 8: Bernie Sanders, he has changed how political parties and candidates 237 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 8: can approach Latinos for the rest of American history. He's 238 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 8: given anyone who really wants to reach this growing vote, 239 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 8: and the vote is growing in the West and the 240 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 8: Southwest sort of a winning formula. 241 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: So I see it as. 242 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 8: A division, Madia right now, But two or three cycles 243 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 8: from now, this could be how we see political campaigns 244 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 8: operate when it comes to Latino voters. 245 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: So yet you have a different take on this. You 246 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: know what some people are seeing of an electoral division. 247 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: So what's your interpretation of the fact that African American 248 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: voters seem to prefer Biden while LATINX voters seem to 249 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: prefer Sanders. 250 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 7: I think that there's an age difference, and we think 251 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 7: about population demographics. Latinos, like Asian Americans, are a young 252 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 7: population group. They're younger than Black Americans. And we see 253 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 7: Bernie winning in the polls and public opinion, and then 254 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 7: also at the ballot box with Democratic voters under the 255 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 7: age of forty, irrespective of race ethnicity. So I think 256 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 7: that there is an age difference. That said, I do 257 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 7: think that there are some parallels between Black Democrats and 258 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 7: Latino Democrats in so far as these two groups have 259 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 7: decided who is in the Democratic contest. Black and Latino 260 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 7: voters have been consistent and they consistently use their vote 261 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 7: for Biden or for Sanders, and that's who's in the 262 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 7: race right now. 263 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: Coming up on Latino USAY, we talk about the role 264 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: of the LATINX vote in states you might not think of. 265 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: Hello Georgia, and we bring you an update on what 266 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: went down with Latino voters in places like Michigan and 267 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: Washington State and what this means for Sanders going forward. 268 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: Stay with us, Hey, we're back. Before the break, we 269 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: were speaking with Sonya Diaz and Julio about the state 270 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: of the Latino vote in the twenty twenty primary elections. 271 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: Let's jump back to that conversation. So a lot of 272 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: the time, Sonya, when people think about, you know, the 273 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: power of the Latin next vote, they think about places 274 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: like California, Texas, Florida that have these pretty huge Latino populations. 275 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: But we know that the Latino vote was significant for 276 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: Sanders in Iowa, even though it's considered to be a 277 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: very white state. Let's talk about states like Georgia or 278 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: Washington State or other places where you believe the Latino 279 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: vote could have a big influence that people might not 280 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: be looking at. 281 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, my face is lighting up, and I 282 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 7: think it's so wild because we really, truly Latinos and 283 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 7: Asian Americans to a lesser extent, are everywhere where there 284 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 7: are jobs, there are us. 285 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 6: And that's true of Georgia. 286 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 7: In twenty sixteen, when I was driving across the country 287 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 7: from California to Virginia for the campaign, I remember one 288 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 7: of the nice things on the radio was this young 289 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 7: woman who was running for the House, the state house 290 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 7: in Georgia, and she ultimately was the first Latina Mexicana elected. 291 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 7: And now she's running right now in the cycle for Congress. 292 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 7: So there's an emerging Latino and Asian American population in Georgia, 293 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 7: and they're going to be critical to thinking through how 294 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 7: that state addresses substantive issues, whether it's a women's right 295 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 7: to choose, or it's thinking through admission and in state 296 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 7: tuition for immigrant students. So what's at stake is really 297 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 7: democracy and even getting out to the ballot box and 298 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 7: electing substantive candidates. 299 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 6: There's still threats that we need to think through. 300 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 7: So I think whatever presidential campaign on the Democratic ticket 301 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 7: is successful, they're going to really have to fight like 302 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 7: hell for down ballot. 303 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: So, Sonya, we've been talking about the primaries that have 304 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: already passed, but I want to talk about what's going 305 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: to be coming up in the future. The Arizona primary 306 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: is coming up on March seventeenth. Arizona is a state 307 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: that used to be solidly read this time. You know, 308 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: it's been ten years since the anniversary of the SB 309 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: ten seventy show me your Papers laws, and since then, 310 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: Latino voter registration and turnout has grown significantly. So what 311 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: are you looking at in terms of the future with 312 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: what's coming up in terms of the Arizona primary. 313 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, I believe that Arizona is the marquee battleground state 314 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 7: for the twenty twenty election. And I've been spending a 315 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 7: lot of time in Arizona, and you see now the 316 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 7: legislature is very close for the first time in thirty 317 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 7: years having either the state House or the state Senate 318 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 7: controlled by the Democratic Party. In the twenty eighteen election, 319 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 7: because of the veracity of the Latino vote, there was 320 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 7: a US Senator that was sent to DC from the 321 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 7: state of Arizona. So Arizona is not only critical to 322 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 7: the twenty twenty election in terms of the president, but 323 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 7: it has the possibility to narrow the gap in the 324 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 7: US Senate and that all centers on Latinos being engaged, 325 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 7: outreach to and supported in casting a meaningful ballot, so 326 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 7: no more voter suppression and making it. 327 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 6: Really difficult to vote in Arizona. 328 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: All right. 329 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: Julio, March seventeenth is also the day of the primary 330 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: in the very importance state of Florida. Now, Latinos in 331 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: Florida tend to be a little bit different, although increasingly 332 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: more diverse. So there are more than just Cubans. There 333 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: are Venezuelans there, many of them who are wary of 334 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: kind of socialism, even democratic socialism. There's also a large 335 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: Puerto Rican population, and I'm just wondering, what are your 336 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: takeaways now in terms of Latino and Latina voters in Florida, 337 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: it's looking like it's leaning heavily towards Biden at this point. 338 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, correct, Maria, And obviously that breaks down, you know, 339 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 8: as it gets more Cuban gets more Biden. But the 340 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 8: one thing I will say is the Puerto Rican vote 341 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 8: is still up in the air, but it looks right 342 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 8: now that Biden does have more support in Florida with 343 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 8: Latinos that he's had anywhere else in any other state. 344 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: Latino voters have been called this sleeping giant, you know, 345 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: for years. I would say that it looks like the 346 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: sleeping giant has definitely awoken and that you are hearing 347 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: a lot more about Latino voter turnout and their impact 348 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: in terms of the primaries. But because the Latino vote 349 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: has really been so progressive in terms of Bernie Sanders, 350 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: it feels like the Democratic Party that feels safer with 351 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: a Biden ticket is almost saying to Latino voters, we 352 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: heard you, We're glad you're awake. And now we really 353 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: want to give you some ni quill? Can you go 354 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: back to sleep? Are you concerned about this notion of 355 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: Latino voters kind of feeling like, well, we said what 356 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: we believed, but you didn't want to hear us. You 357 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: want us to vote for the more moderate candidate Joe Biden. 358 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 8: This notion of you know, thirty two million eligible Latino 359 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 8: voters all taking Nike will will forever be etched in 360 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 8: my brain. 361 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: But two things about it. 362 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 8: You know, in our reporting we've asked, you know, Latinos 363 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 8: from all over the country, what do you want to do? 364 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 8: You are you gonna vote? Yes, I'm going to vote 365 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 8: the primary. What if your candidate doesn't win? And I 366 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 8: don't know if I want to vote? And that's a 367 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 8: problem that I think the Democratic Party has to come 368 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 8: to terms with because if the Democratic Party has not 369 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 8: learned from twenty sixteen that all you're doing is Trump 370 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 8: is a bad president for immigrants and Latinos. 371 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: That didn't work. 372 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 8: The reality is the Trump campaign this time around has 373 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 8: formally created a Latinos for Trump Committee that is part 374 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 8: of their campaign. And you have evangelicals, you have heads 375 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 8: of megachurches, you have entrepreneurs, businessmen, gun rights advocates, pro 376 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 8: life advocates all over the country like they the Trump 377 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 8: campaign is putting money into the outreach. And this is 378 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 8: going to sound really controversial, and I'm sure I'm gonna 379 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 8: be misquoted, but I'm going to say it anyway. The 380 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 8: Trump campaign is doing a better job in Gettinglatino Republican 381 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 8: outreach then the Democratic Party as a party is doing 382 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 8: in getting Latino voters to stay awake. That to me 383 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 8: is the writing on the wall for the Democratic Party 384 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 8: to get serious, because all these new young voters who 385 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 8: are being engaged, they might not be around in November 386 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 8: if they're being taken for granted. 387 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: What's your take, Sonya, in terms of Latino Latina voters 388 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: and their sense about the Democratic Party and its responsiveness 389 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: to them as voters. 390 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, frankly, I think that the Democratic Party 391 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 7: has failed voters of color. This isn't a failure on 392 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 7: the part of engaging Latinos, it's also a failure of 393 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 7: engaging black voters. And this is both because of who 394 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 7: they select as their candidates. We're not seeing candidates of 395 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 7: color supported by the Democratic National Committee in a way 396 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 7: that we need to for the future saliency of our democracy, 397 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 7: but also to engage and excite an electorate that is 398 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 7: fast growing and becoming the nation's new majority. So there's 399 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 7: a strategic opportunity that has continued to be missed, and 400 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 7: quite frankly, way too much is at stake. We've seen 401 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 7: the horrors of the last three and a half years, 402 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 7: and we cannot afford to continue to move a country, 403 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 7: if not the world, in this direction. 404 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: Sonya, thank you so much for speaking with us on 405 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: letting know USA. 406 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 6: Thank you so much. This was great. 407 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, Julio, Thank you, Madia. 408 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: So that was the state of the race when I 409 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: sat down to talk to Julia and Sonya just after 410 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: Super Tuesday. But as it has often turned out in 411 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: this campaign cycle, things changed pretty quickly. 412 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: It looks like we're going to have another good night. 413 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: With big wins in four out of six states. Biden 414 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: has become the clear front runner. 415 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 5: Last night obviously was not a good night for how 416 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 5: a campaign from a delegate point of view. 417 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: And so the viability of Sanders campaign has come into question. 418 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: So to get the latest analysis, I jump back into 419 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: the studio with Julio Ricardorea to make sense of the 420 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: latest news coming out of the campaign trail. Julio. The 421 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: last time we spoke, we were talking about how Bernie 422 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: Sanders has really made a strategic decision to connect with 423 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: Latino and Latino voters in many parts of the country. 424 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: Now Biden is surging, So I've got to ask you 425 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: what does this mean for Latinos and Latinas across the 426 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: generations that have really come out in support for Bernie Sanders. 427 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of things, Madia. 428 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 8: I won it's safe to say that Joe Biden is 429 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 8: the presumptive nominee and he didn't really need Latinos to 430 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 8: become the presumptive nominee. At the same time, the pattern 431 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 8: looking at what happened in March tenth, I want to 432 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 8: share two examples that actually continue the pattern that we 433 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 8: talked about after Super Tuesday. 434 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: One, Washington State. 435 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 8: There's four districts in Washington State that are heavily Latino, 436 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 8: and actually Sonya's UCLA Latino analysis that just came out 437 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 8: on Wednesday basically confirms that Bernie Sanders again did very 438 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 8: well with Latino's in Washington State. 439 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: So I just want to provide two examples. 440 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 8: Franklin County, which is on the east side of Pasco, Washington, 441 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 8: which is over eighty percent Latino. According to UCLA Latino 442 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 8: Sanders won anywhere from forty four to fifty eight percent 443 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 8: of the vote across all those precincts. So that also 444 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 8: happened in three other districts in Washington. So again we're 445 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 8: seeing these pockets Madia and also even in Michigan. When 446 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 8: you look at exit polls out of miss Michigan, Sanders 447 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 8: got over fifty percent of exit polls with Latinos in Michigan, 448 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 8: even though Michigan represents like six percent of the electorate, 449 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 8: he did pretty well. 450 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: So again we're seeing it in pockets. 451 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: So let's talk about this notion of Latino or Latina 452 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: voters as kind of being this sleeping giant. Clearly they 453 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: have awoken, they could potentially swing a race like this one, 454 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: but in fact, like that's not turning out to be 455 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: the case. It appears much more like the party in 456 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: and of itself is saying, you know, we want to 457 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: go in a different direction. So what is the message 458 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: from the establishment to these voters and how are they 459 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: taking this notion of you know, support Biden or basically 460 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: takes anc will and go back to sleep. 461 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a great question, Mattia, and I know we've 462 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 8: addressed this before. Just just two things I want to 463 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 8: bring up about this one. Arizona's also happening on March seventeenth, 464 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 8: And a poll by Telemundo that came out on Wednesday, 465 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 8: right after the March tenth primary has Bernie Sanders leading 466 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 8: forty seven percent to forty percent with Latino voters in Arizona. So, 467 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 8: whatever happens in Arizona, there are indications that Sanders is 468 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 8: still going to repeat that Latino support. 469 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: But what does that mean for a general election? 470 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 8: Right, So let's say, you know, Biden becomes the nominee. 471 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 8: There's all these Latinos in the West and the Southwest 472 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 8: that are like, we're digging Bernie Sanders. 473 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: They're not that into Biden. 474 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 8: It seems to me like what we've been saying that 475 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 8: Biden needs to make a very concerted effort at some point, 476 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 8: whether it's now or later in the general election, to 477 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 8: be like I need you guys, I need younger Latino 478 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 8: voters to be part of this coalition. 479 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: They're going to have to figure it out. 480 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 8: I don't think they are thinking about it right now, 481 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 8: to be honest with you, because they're winning so many states, 482 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 8: and I think they're focused on winning the nomination. But 483 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 8: to think that the Democratic Party is not going to 484 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 8: reach out to young Latino voters and Latino voters in 485 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 8: general in a general election seems a little bit illogical 486 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 8: to me, and I just fear like this we're looking 487 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 8: at twenty sixteen again if this is not something that 488 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 8: gets addressed. 489 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: Wholio, thank you so much for joining us. 490 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, Maria. 491 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Alisa Scarce and edited by 492 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: Luis Trees. 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