WEBVTT - The Acolyte: Are the Jedi the Bad Guys?? 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.800 Hello. My name is Jason and Sepsio and I'm Rosey 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.160 Night and welcome back to x re Envision, the podcast 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.600 where we dive deep been to your favorite shows, movies, 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.760 comics and pop culture. Coming to you from iHeart Podcast, 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:35.400 where we are bringing you to action packed episodes a week, 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:36.839 every Tuesday and Thursday. 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.879 In today's episode, there's just one topic, baby, that's you 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:41.479 know what it is. 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:44.159 It's The Acolyte. We've been waiting for it and it 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:44.600 is here. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.000 So in the airlock, guess what we're gonna be discussing 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.400 the first two episodes of That Acolyte on Disney Plus 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:56.400 with full spoilers, So listenableware, let's get into it. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:02.680 The Acolyte season. On episode one, we open with a 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.959 crawl with a not quite a bit crawl, but more like. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.920 A it's a little it's a couple of steps, A 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:10.960 couple of steps, yeah, not a full crawl. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.479 That basically tells us that where we are in time, 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.479 we're one hundred years before the Rise of the Empire, 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.760 the peak of the Jedi Order. Rosie, where would you 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.280 date the rise of the Empire too? Do you date 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.360 it to like the end of the Clone Wars or 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.600 do you date it to like Order sixty six, I would. 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.720 Probably say if they're talking about the Rise, I would say, like. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:35.640 The end of the Clone was. 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:40.840 But I also thinking of Luke Becus film and the 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.000 way this stuff is, I wouldn't be surprised if the 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.560 hundred years they're talking about is just to Order sixty six. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.200 It's I think that being I think they may be 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.559 being purposefully vague, which I think that. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.560 That's wise on their part, because you don't want to 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.920 get painted into a quarter back to the recap. But 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.400 independent Force users across space and time are forging their 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.640 own relationships with the power that binds the galaxy, side 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:12.880 stepping the directives, some would say, the overly authoritarian. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.280 Directives, definitely in this era. 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.240 Of the Jedi Order. That's one thing we should say 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:22.200 right away is this is one of the most critical 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:28.840 mm hmm pieces of Star Wars storytelling with regards to 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.520 the Jedi Order. Like it's openly like are they are 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:33.560 they doing it the right way? 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:41.440 I was kind of blown away by how openly critical 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.240 this is of the Jedi, and not just in something 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.120 I really like about this is not just in a 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:50.919 way of those kind of like gotcha like they're doing 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:56.920 something bad. It's actually in these different characters and representations 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:00.240 of how the Jedi behave and what they believe, and 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:04.000 you kind of build up to this feeling of. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.040 Oh, maybe we were right. 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:08.560 Maybe the Jedi being completely in control wasn't a good thing. 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.840 We meet an assassin who has tracked a Jedi master 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:18.079 master in Dara to a cantena, and the assassin has 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:23.320 a hand to hand fighting style which she augments with 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.840 the force, a kind of raw force talent, and she 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.120 has knives that she throws clearly guided by the force. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.320 Also in Dara, you get the sense that in Dara 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.400 is just kind of getting the measure of this assassin 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:41.600 and that without too much difficulty, could beat her, but 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.800 wants to see what she can do. She recognizes her 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.000 attacker you can see from her reaction, but when in 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.880 Dara is distracted by having to save the life of 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.800 a bystander, the assassin gets the opening she needs and 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.880 sinks a blade right into her chest. I love this 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:02.000 opening action sequence of nods to the matrix. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.560 I kind of love that they cast carry Am Moss. 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.680 Everyone was like, oh my god, Carry. 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:09.920 You were right, this is what we were right by 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:10.400 the way. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.240 We were right, I thought she was gonna die, But 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.599 I love that it feels almost like because of the 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:20.200 Wujia influences the wirework that we get here, I feel 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.680 like they said, hey, this is really influenced by the matrix. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.560 Let's have carry Ann play a part in this story, like, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.240 let's bring her in as one of these Jedi that 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:31.720 this assassin is hunting down. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:33.480 I love this opening fight scene. 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.080 I think it's really really cool, and as we get 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.039 more into it, it also is like a key part 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.360 of the story that this assassin fights that way. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:47.760 Elsewhere, Osha, a mechnic who looks identical to our assassin 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:51.000 but is clearly not her, wakes up to start her workday. 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.640 She's working on a Trade Federation ship. The officials on 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.960 board are quite desperate to get where they're going to 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.640 unload some very sensitive cargo, and it was I have 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:03.200 to say, it was interesting to see the Trade Federation again. Yes, 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:10.960 they clearly took something of the initial very bad in 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:16.520 my in my estimation characterization of the Trade Federation from 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.400 the prequel movies and kind of iterated on it. 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:21.160 Yeah. 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.719 Yeah, playing it in a less terrible way. I agree, 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.080 But they're still up to Shenanigans. They're still I mean, 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:31.599 it's the Trade Federation. Also, can I just say, Osha 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:36.960 is so Calcastis coded. She sets up, she's got her 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.799 little ball, and she's like and she's wearing a little 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.599 jacket and she's she's doing some mechanics, and I. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.000 Was like, I feel like Leslie Hedlund, who is. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:46.919 The showrunner of the show also the showruner of The 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:50.279 Incredible Russian Doll on Netflix. She's talked about being a 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.720 nice of the Old Republic fan, of being a Expanded 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.080 Universe fan, but I want to know if she's also 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.080 like a Jedi Survivor fan, because I feel like, oh 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.800 is so much like Calcastis that I was getting it 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:05.640 even feels like you're walking. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.080 Around his room, you know, in the ship. I loved 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:08.919 that intro. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.880 And I just thought Amandla did such a good job 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.640 defining those those two roles in that moment. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.800 Next thing, you know, that was what you want? What 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:25.360 did the cops show up? The fuck isn't the fucking 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:31.200 cop show? Gold Jackets a Night of the Jedi Order. 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.839 Jord Fandar and his padawan Tassi are looking for Osha because, 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:40.160 as we all saw, she matches to a t Uh 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:45.240 the description of the assassin of Master Indar, and apparently 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:49.159 Osha was once a Jedi in training. Ohan knows yord 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.200 they were at the Jedi Temple. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:52.680 Together a bit of history there. 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:57.520 Yep, they interrogate Osha, who again they suspected Nadar's murder. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.360 We learned that Osha was brought to the Jedi eight 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.919 after her entire family was wiped out by something. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.640 Which, by the way, they point out, is very late 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:07.920 for padawan. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:09.960 And so, by the way, yes, they're not just making 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:10.760 child soldiers. 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.280 They're making baby soldiers like eight is old to become 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:14.760 a Jedi. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:19.960 And we should also note that throughout history the Jedi 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:25.040 Order has like bent the rules or let in students 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.040 later than they usually would, and those always end up 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.240 being the notable ones. Don't they baby like that? 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.320 Maybe you should learn something about that bringing them in 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.360 at like ten maybe. So. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:41.640 Apparently Indara played some kind of role in OSHA's leaving 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.520 of the Jedi Order, though Osha insists that it was 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.560 all her decision, and she's like, I didn't do this, 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:49.160 I would never kill her. Why would I do that? 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.360 And then all of a sudden Jord brings in the 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.720 barkeeper from the cantina, who immediately says, that's her, she 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:56.200 did it. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:57.560 Yeah, who buy today? 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.600 The assassin left thee because she saw that he had 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.280 a child with him, So the assassin clearly has some 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:08.520 kind of emotional kind of moral compass even though they 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.040 are assassinating these Jedi. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:17.640 Right, not full Anakin, but like not a full Anakid killer. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.360 We go to Corusan, the Jedi temple. We meet Jedi 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.240 Master Soul, who is training a group of patawans. His 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:28.720 colleague Master Venestra brings Saul the news that the suspect 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.839 in his friend master in Dara's murder has been caught 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.400 and also it's his former padawan. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:36.680 Yeah. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:40.160 Saul is like, what, no way, Osha, I can't believe this, 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.520 you know, me and and Dara. We saved OSHA's life 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:47.680 apparently and involved there was some kind of devastating fire 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.839 that wiped out her entire family and they saved her 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.960 from that. Venestra is like, well, listen, this murder is 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.120 just bad pr like the aactics are terrible. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.720 Yeah, people think they can just go around murdering Jedi, Like, 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.679 what's gonna happen it's gonna go badly. 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.120 Oh, I just want to say as well. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.520 So there's two things about this that I think is 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.760 really important. One, we're getting Vanestra around from the High Republic. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.160 Everybody loves her, everyone's really excited to see her. But 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.800 I did love the in our discord, people are like, 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.559 what happened in the last like one hundred and twenty 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.680 three years to make us such like a sad sack? 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.760 Like she used to be fun and now she is 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.319 like a job's worth who loves the Jedi. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.160 And she's very sad. So like, I want to know 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.120 people want to know that story, and I think that's 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:33.800 a great point. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.240 So Vnestra tells Saul, like, you need to go investigate this, 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.280 but quietly. And here's where I just want to say, 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.120 I don't see red flags, but I this is the 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:49.560 first of the interactions between Venestra and Saul where I'm like, hmmm, 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.800 I agree with our discord that there's something different about 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:58.720 this Venestra. Yeah, And I almost wonder as the mystery, 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.920 as the murder mystery that is central to this story unfolds, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.040 if she does not have something to do with it. 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:06.240 It does feel like. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.079 She doesn't it feel that way a lot, especially the way. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.880 She's like, we got to keep it underrat. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:11.679 We gotta keep it quiet. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.199 Everyone knows if you're trying to tell somebody to keep 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.040 something a secret's usually something bad, right, Like you learn 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:18.880 that from when you're a kid. I will say something 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.000 I really love here. I love that while we have 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:27.080 this incredibly cop like Jedi like with yourr is very 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:31.480 much in that space your nab, I'm coming in, I'm 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.320 coming in and I'm gonna mind probe you. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.200 And it's like, bro, that that doesn't look good. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.439 That's not that's not seen as a good thing nowadays 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.400 thanks to you know, Kylo Ren. You do yeah right, yes, 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.600 like it's all it's only bad. Don't don't do that. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.920 You need consent. But what I love is I actually 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.760 find that Master Soul who's played by Squid Games at 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.560 Lee Jung Jay, who's so fantastic here. I love that 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:56.480 he is this more compassionate version of the Jedi who's 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:00.960 almost going so much farther to the other, like further 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.040 than an Obi Wan Kenobi Wood, where he has these 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.600 students and they're thinking about what the force means to them, 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.480 and you see people saying balance, water life, and he 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:16.480 has young girl who says fire, it consumes everything, and 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.479 Soul says, yeah. 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:19.560 The Force is very powerful. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.120 He doesn't see that as her leaning to the dark side. 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.760 He finds a way to look at it through a 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.320 compassionate lens and understanding lens. And I really love that 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:34.520 they decided to bring in this more nostalgic kind of loving. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.640 I mean, he clearly cares. 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.920 About Osha, which you're not supposed to do in the Jedi. 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.480 You know, a Jedi shall not feel love, hate, fear, anger, 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.040 but Soul clearly has that. And I think it's a 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:49.880 really interesting contrast to this era of the Jedi that 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:50.400 we're seeing. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:55.160 I completely I completely agree on the transport to Corasanosha's 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:59.360 fellow prisoner's launch an escape that paralyzes the ship. They 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:03.120 get away in all of the escape pods, leaving Osha 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.000 on a crashed ship. The ship ends up crash landing 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.920 on the ice planet Carlac, and Osha survives. 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.120 Oh yes, sorry, can we just I just need to 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.360 bring up the Jedi again here please. Sarah is a 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.520 prisoner on this ship who is being subdued by a 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:25.000 mind altering parasite that the Jedi have attached to his face. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.400 So can we talk about this? Do you remember saw Guerrera, 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.319 who we always support, who they say he went gully. 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:34.280 Poor Gulley. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.040 But the Jedi in the Higher Republic era they are 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:44.320 using like alien parasites Corris and it's not good, guys? 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.319 Is it bad? The Jedi listen doing a bad thing. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.920 As we progress into the story, I think you're gonna 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:57.520 find a significant amount of guilt questioning of the Jedi's 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:02.480 motives and decision making processed from within the Jedi order itself, 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.120 but that has for further on in the recap, Saul 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:10.240 Force interrogates one of the prisoners that escaped from the transport, 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.400 learns that Osha had nothing to do with the mutiny, 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.360 and Osha is presumed dead at this moment, but Saul 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:19.080 convinces Venestra to let him go looking for her on Karlac. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.200 Osha has a vision of herself for the assassin who 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.880 looks like her, and we learn it's her sister Brendock 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.680 May May. It's her sister May from the planet from 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.839 Brendock right. It's her twin sister May. The vision becomes 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.240 a flashback to the fire and the night that her 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.559 family burned, and we learned that with it. Who's May OSHA's. 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.600 No, no, no, Osha is Osha is Osha. May is May. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.960 But I understand they seem like, you don't. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.720 Know if it's actually her, if it's like a diad 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.600 or like a jewel thing. But yeah, no, no, no, 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.320 she's She is Osha and the other one is May. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.400 The vision of her sister admits to killing Indhara and 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.360 then ads that she wants to kill all of them, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.640 who we and we presume all means the Jedi, kill 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:07.720 all the Jedi. Soul catches his padawan, Jeckie up on Osha. 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:12.200 Apparently it was the sister May who started the fire 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.240 that killed the entire family, and Soul is convinced that 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:16.840 she's dead because he saw her die. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.320 And also Jackie is played by daf Nicken, who is 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.400 X twenty three and we love her and she's so 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.440 cute and I love Jackie. 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.880 I would die for Jeckie. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.960 She is a Thlin human hybrid yes, which is very 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.560 very interesting. The theling. We're already a very rare species, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.640 and this seems like even more rare. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.120 And it's also like something that's really great is Jackie 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:44.200 is really represented as like a logical kind of force 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.720 user who's like, yes, why are you feeling nostalgic about 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.960 your former padawan or whatever? But Soul is this great 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.800 leader for her and this great mentor because he actually 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:56.920 has more of that compassion. So they're a great kind 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.760 of straight man and like soft team. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.960 I'm a fast It's wonderful on Carlac, Saul, Yord, and 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:09.040 Jeckie track down Osha. They track her to like this 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.640 underground tunnel that leads to an opening over a cliff 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:17.320 where in what I think is the greatest easter egg 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:22.360 in recent Star Wars history, a clear nod to the fugitive. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.720 It's so good because it's direct like to me, and 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.880 you literally could put them over each other. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:29.720 It's so good. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.920 Down to the dialogue of Osha saying I didn't do it, 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.080 she says she didn't do it. She falls off the 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:41.440 edge just like doctor except Doctor Kimball jumped, and Saul 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.880 catches her and pulls her back. I just love this 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.000 easter egg one because it's not Star Wars, but it's 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.560 Harrison Ford exactly. So you still got the vibes, so 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.360 you still got the vibes and it's just it's just awesome. 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:59.240 Osha tells Saul that actually May is alive, and elsewhere 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:03.280 we see walk down a beach where she needs a 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.640 mysterious figure with a some kind of affected voice. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.000 And a scary mask. 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.280 With scary mask it looks like kind of chainsaw man esque, 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:17.040 and the figure says to me that he wants he 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:21.240 or she they want to destroy the Jedi and destroy 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:22.160 their dream. 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.680 Yeah, and and something something that I think is really 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.680 cool about this episode that Susanna Polo wrote about Polygon 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.920 is like he wants her to murder a Jedi without 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:38.160 a weapon, and that is like a recurring theme throughout 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:43.040 these two episodes. And it's really interesting because it's obviously 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:47.520 something that he needs her to achieve, but we kind 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.000 of don't know why. And I think that's really interesting 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.960 because that's we've getting this Force fighting. But what could 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:59.040 this potential because we don't know technically all the Siths 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.160 should be gone at this period in time from what 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.280 we know, but I'm assuming this is probably going to 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:05.880 wreck on it, or maybe it will be some kind 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:10.280 of different Dark Force users. But yeah, I'm very interested 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.119 to see where they go with that before we continue. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.000 I forgot to note it here. I think I noted 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:16.720 in the in the next part of the recap, but 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:21.040 let's talk about it now. One notable feature of every 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:26.760 fight scene involving May is that she makes a grab 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.520 for the lightsaber every single time. I know, it's very 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:32.800 notable in every fight scene. 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:34.680 Why it is yourself? 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.440 Or is she trying to get rid of it so 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.760 that then she can kill them without a weapon, because 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.840 the lightsaber is their ultimate weapon, you know, I'm very 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.760 interested in that. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.119 And we know, like we see the. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:54.520 Mysterious you know, May's mysterious Master ignite his red lightsaber 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.320 at the end, so we know he has a corrupted 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.760 Kaiber crystal hypothetically and he already has that technology. 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:00.639 May need a. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.879 Lightsaber or is she trying to get rid of it 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:04.840 so she can kill them with this kind of force 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:09.080 fighting technique because she does always pull out the knives 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.960 at the last minute when everything else has gone wrong, 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.919 you know. But yeah, it's I just thought like, this 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:19.520 was such a good, scary ending, and I'm really excited 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.960 to see where they go with this villain, because is 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:26.280 this gonna be another scenario like ah Soca where we're like, 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.040 is this villainous character gonna be someone that we know? 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.879 And then it ends up not some Yeah, right, like 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:33.680 is it Vnestra? 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.240 I think we've seen I think in the discord we've 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.679 had people who think it might be your especially with 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:45.359 some of the timing between and yeah, I am very 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.840 interested to see where it goes. 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.320 And yeah, let's talk about the second episode because there's 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:51.360 so much stuff in there. 0:18:51.600 --> 0:19:17.680 We'll be right back after a quick grip. 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.400 And we're back. We open on the planet a Lega 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:15.520 May quite easily, we should say, breaks into the local 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.400 Jedi devil, no problem. She gets right in. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.840 And not just that, can I say she literally breaks 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:26.720 in yet by getting like a child to annoy the 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.160 entry droid and then she pops like a little bomb 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:30.640 on his head. 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.520 So let's this is actually a great thing that you've 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.960 picked up on here, because this is how. 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:39.960 Complacent the Jedi, extremely cool. They are so in power, 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.479 happy without threat. They are at the top of the 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:48.359 food chain that a literal child annoying an entry droid 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.680 allows an assassin to get into the Jedi temple. 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:56.520 She is there to confront Master Torbin, who we later 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.919 learned has been meditating for ten years and has not 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:03.200 spoken to anybody in there time. She finds him levitating 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.680 in a chamber. She calls him out and says, I 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.520 demand that you fight me with all of your strength. 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:13.040 Yeah, which she also said ton Dara, which is very interesting. 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:17.359 I think it's very interesting. And when there's no response, 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:22.240 she attacks, but she cannot get through his impregnable force shields, 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:26.480 so she flees on Karlac Yord wonders why Saul doesn't 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:27.520 keep Osha restraint. 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.920 He's like, oh, well, put her into force handcups. 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.520 I'm like that your friend, that was you got to 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:35.760 handcut the suspect. 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.639 I'm like, didn't you grow up with her in the 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.600 Jedi temple? Like this is your friend? Like what is 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:42.440 wrong with you? 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.520 I'm just saying, is she not a suspect and a murder? 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:47.480 Don't we have to handcover anyway? 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:48.400 On him? 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:48.960 Be quiet? 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.840 And I wanted you just shut up. Saul is on 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:57.040 video link with Venestra and he tells her about the 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.720 twins and about his twin theory and that it might 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.840 be the sister that did it, even though he saw 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.000 her die. Vinestra then tells Saul that there's been another 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:08.520 attack on Olega by the same assassin who killed in Dhara. 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:13.119 Uh So Osha is now cleared, so your chill the 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:13.600 fuck out. 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.160 Yeah, she didn't do it. She didn't do it, Brav. 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.399 I know, but maybe she can aid in the investigation. 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.119 You're also against that, right against it. I don't know. 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.960 It's starting to act suspicious at this point. Him of Venestra, 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.400 what's going on? I'm suspicious. 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:33.600 Well, I think it's clear that whatever their history is, 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:40.680 it plays into Orde's current feelings about Osha. Something, something 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:45.159 about their time at the Jedi temple together is causing 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:49.240 your tonack. Like this on Olega, May meets with her 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:53.440 contact kmire a drunk played by the super handsome Manny. 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.600 I love him so much and I think is like 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:01.040 such an interesting character. Like when I when I interviewed, 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:03.960 I interviewed the cast for IGN, and I was the 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:09.040 thing about Kima that's so interesting is that he is basically. 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:10.560 Just like a normal guy. 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.679 He's not in the Jedi, he's not in the Sith, 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.520 he's not being trained, he's not and Or who has 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.440 a mission. He's just a guy who's just like trying 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.560 to survive. Yeah, and that's something that Manny was like 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.760