1
00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,320
Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

2
00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,720
Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

3
00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,680
Speaker 1: you by Bally bet Now live in Ohio on eight

4
00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,600
Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts Bo Bishop and

5
00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:36,600
Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

6
00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,479
Speaker 2: Pilos Sure live on a first Friday Miracle edition of

7
00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,040
Speaker 2: Plea Lea Brown's Daily. I am merely Bo. He is

8
00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:41,680
Speaker 2: the great z.

9
00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,800
Speaker 3: You're back, baby, Oh baby, it feels good to be back.

10
00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,880
Speaker 3: Good to see you. You look fantastic.

11
00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,680
Speaker 2: Two weeks. It's a two weeks at least. I think

12
00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,720
Speaker 2: it was a Wednesday, Like it was a Wednesday, like

13
00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,000
Speaker 2: the twenty sixth of June. And then because I was

14
00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,040
Speaker 2: headed to Chicago for lacrosse.

15
00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,000
Speaker 3: Did that Monday. Then I had to go on my

16
00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,160
Speaker 3: my wellness retreat.

17
00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,080
Speaker 2: But weren't you here Wednesday? Tuesday? Oh that's right, Tuesday, Thursday,

18
00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,679
Speaker 2: Gibbey and I did Wednesday and I did Thursday. Then

19
00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,520
Speaker 2: you came back Thursday, Loan, No, but.

20
00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,919
Speaker 3: I was I here now Monday, that Monday, the Monday

21
00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:14,480
Speaker 3: of that week.

22
00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,880
Speaker 2: Oh that okay, So that's like the twenty fourth.

23
00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,440
Speaker 3: Is the last show that you and I did to

24
00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,160
Speaker 3: get together.

25
00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,760
Speaker 2: Yep. Okay, there you go. That's been a minute. What

26
00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,440
Speaker 2: have you been up to? How's things going? Everything's good

27
00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,119
Speaker 2: Man birthday, the birthday, the big birthday. All the fireworks

28
00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:30,520
Speaker 2: were for you.

29
00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,240
Speaker 3: It was great at a nice time with family and friends.

30
00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,720
Speaker 3: Had played the best I had the best golf round

31
00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,360
Speaker 3: of my life. And then since I've last seen you,

32
00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,039
Speaker 3: let's hear it. So at we were playing in a match,

33
00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,240
Speaker 3: me and Simsay agent to the Stars, playing in a

34
00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,320
Speaker 3: match still waiting on the hoodie Friday. It was the

35
00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,360
Speaker 3: day after my birthday, July fifth, yep. And on the

36
00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,920
Speaker 3: front nine, I shot thirty thirty. Yeah, it's like a

37
00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,520
Speaker 3: video game.

38
00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

39
00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,200
Speaker 3: I birdied one, two, three, part four and five, six,

40
00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:00,720
Speaker 3: seven eight.

41
00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,400
Speaker 2: It was nuts.

42
00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,320
Speaker 3: It was insane and I made one pot of more

43
00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,320
Speaker 3: than fifteen feet.

44
00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,560
Speaker 2: I was just like, just dialed in. What did you

45
00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,960
Speaker 2: end up shooting sixty six? So thirty it's gonna be?

46
00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:13,880
Speaker 2: Is that your all time low?

47
00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,640
Speaker 3: All time was sixty five at Beachmont. But it's a

48
00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,000
Speaker 3: part some new ones. So same same two par.

49
00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:21,280
Speaker 2: Same to par.

50
00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the guys were like, the other guys were like,

51
00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,519
Speaker 3: what's and Simson seeing me playing, he played well like

52
00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,880
Speaker 3: I've been Yeah, you wonder, you know, but like this

53
00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,280
Speaker 3: is ludicrous. I was like, it's nuts.

54
00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,320
Speaker 2: And a nine, I just felt like in the zone.

55
00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,400
Speaker 2: Like it it felt like like every swing was in

56
00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,200
Speaker 2: the zone and.

57
00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,520
Speaker 3: I knew I was gonna make our Poet was like,

58
00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make them. Yeah, it was funny. On seven,

59
00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,160
Speaker 3: I was after seven, we were on eighty, and I

60
00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,919
Speaker 3: was I had just birdied six and seven back to back.

61
00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,000
Speaker 3: We're wellhead taking care of business in this match. Yeah,

62
00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,600
Speaker 3: clearly absurd. And Sims had a good shot and he

63
00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,080
Speaker 3: had not He had been struggling a little bit, and

64
00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,480
Speaker 3: he hit it to like twelve feet below the hole

65
00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,680
Speaker 3: in a part three. I'm like, I'm just gonna hit

66
00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,680
Speaker 3: one out of bounds. I'm like, my handicap is screwed

67
00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,240
Speaker 3: right now, right, you're taking this all and he got

68
00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,079
Speaker 3: He was like, got maxic you get a good shot.

69
00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,359
Speaker 3: And then I hit it to like four feet and

70
00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,240
Speaker 3: that made the boat. It was nuts, it was it

71
00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,880
Speaker 3: was crazy. And nine I had a putt I saw, yeah,

72
00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,639
Speaker 3: all of Alden in a match like this.

73
00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,080
Speaker 2: Is yeah, that's crazy.

74
00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,320
Speaker 3: Uh. On nine, I had probably like fifteen feet but

75
00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,760
Speaker 3: there's kind of a big elephant back in the front

76
00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,359
Speaker 3: left of the green, and I was on the front

77
00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,520
Speaker 3: of it and the pen was on the back of it.

78
00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,440
Speaker 3: So it was a tough little putt. But I wanted

79
00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,400
Speaker 3: to make that so bad. So I've never show it

80
00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,400
Speaker 3: in the twenties for nine No, that's crazy, So I

81
00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,240
Speaker 3: don't know that I ever will.

82
00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:34,400
Speaker 4: Now.

83
00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,000
Speaker 2: I think this is.

84
00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,920
Speaker 3: Probably as the one as close as it was going

85
00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,080
Speaker 3: to get. But no, so that that happened, So that

86
00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,640
Speaker 3: was great, as you know, three days away from absolute.

87
00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you training, you're doing a lot of you're doing

88
00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,600
Speaker 2: some videos, and you're talking a lot of running your mouth,

89
00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,880
Speaker 2: and it seems like Jared is not that he's he's

90
00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,640
Speaker 2: maybe distracted. He's distracted furcus.

91
00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, three days away though I used I channeled uh

92
00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,120
Speaker 3: the rocket russ Mania nineteen and my promo today.

93
00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,360
Speaker 2: I did. I haven't seen the one today yet. I

94
00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,200
Speaker 2: was working, but I did. I saw the one where

95
00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,040
Speaker 2: you had some buddies with you and you're yelling.

96
00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,080
Speaker 3: Bishops like sitting there doing curls for a minute.

97
00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,960
Speaker 2: I did see that one. That's pretty good. Yeah, that's good.

98
00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,640
Speaker 3: So that's Friday night, Saturday night, Saturday night, Saturday night.

99
00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,200
Speaker 3: Saturday night, I'm hoping for an early exit for your boys.

100
00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,599
Speaker 2: No offense.

101
00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,720
Speaker 3: They can hang a lot of banners, just not this weekend.

102
00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,040
Speaker 2: It's it kind of I mean it could so their

103
00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:31,080
Speaker 2: last NBC's last game scheduled is Saturday. Now it's in Chicago,

104
00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,880
Speaker 2: so you know what that traffic's ye, when is the

105
00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,040
Speaker 2: last time you drove through Chicago drove through, I mean

106
00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,320
Speaker 2: tried to get around part. That's that's the that's our

107
00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,440
Speaker 2: slate for Saturday. That's that's so one's the last. If

108
00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,440
Speaker 2: it's if it goes bad, they go. If it goes bad,

109
00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,000
Speaker 2: one o'clock and you're done, that's two o'clock here.

110
00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,520
Speaker 3: You're fine. I'm not gonna go. I don't think I'll

111
00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,239
Speaker 3: be on until.

112
00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,880
Speaker 2: That would be the best hosts of if they go over,

113
00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,280
Speaker 2: then it would be in play that I could and

114
00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,320
Speaker 2: I would be able to paratroop in and go straight

115
00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,480
Speaker 2: off the turnpie.

116
00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,159
Speaker 3: Your name will be on the list.

117
00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,720
Speaker 2: Just just top on there. Yeah, take the whole family,

118
00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,240
Speaker 2: they're all coming. Wouldn't have time to get home. That

119
00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,400
Speaker 2: will be a stop.

120
00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,039
Speaker 3: On the way because it'll just be at that point

121
00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,599
Speaker 3: by the time you get there. It'd probably just be

122
00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,640
Speaker 3: me and then the main event and that's it.

123
00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is fun. It's gonna be exciting, it's

124
00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,160
Speaker 2: gonna be still. Ready. Yeah, I'm ready. I feel really good.

125
00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,920
Speaker 2: It's very good. I feel really good about it. Very good.

126
00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,440
Speaker 2: So you've got she got that coming up on Saturday.

127
00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,880
Speaker 2: You had the extended time. You've got some more time

128
00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,600
Speaker 2: next week you can do a little family thing. Yea,

129
00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,520
Speaker 2: where are you? Where is your headspace with the reality

130
00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,560
Speaker 2: that today is July tenth.

131
00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,440
Speaker 3: I had a not I wouldn't say like a breakdown,

132
00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,000
Speaker 3: but I acknowledge that my summer is over.

133
00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,680
Speaker 2: I've come to grips. You got a great trip of

134
00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,880
Speaker 2: the family next week. I got this.

135
00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,640
Speaker 3: I got my boy Insanity's coming in, Joe's coming in,

136
00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,400
Speaker 3: Alby's coming in for the weekends.

137
00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,440
Speaker 2: I got my Pedro coming into, coming out to support.

138
00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,200
Speaker 2: But he's doing well.

139
00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,599
Speaker 3: For those who are wondering, his blood Platt is gone great.

140
00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,360
Speaker 3: So that's fantastic. So I have to be there.

141
00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nana, it's gonna be there. That's fantastic. Nana's going

142
00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:06,400
Speaker 2: to be there.

143
00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,719
Speaker 3: I got so we have that, and then I have

144
00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,200
Speaker 3: the cornerstone outing on Monday, I go to Georgia. On Wednesday,

145
00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,760
Speaker 3: I come back Sunday. We'll do and then I think

146
00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,599
Speaker 3: we go to the Greenbriar. Do you know the travel

147
00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,159
Speaker 3: to the Greenbrier?

148
00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,440
Speaker 2: Yet? Give me the actual travel. He's efforting that, there

149
00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,039
Speaker 2: we go two weeks. Two weeks from today.

150
00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,240
Speaker 4: I'll be driving Connor, FeelA and I are driving down

151
00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,440
Speaker 4: from today.

152
00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

153
00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you my golf clubs.

154
00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,679
Speaker 2: Thank you. It's it's a crazy fifty.

155
00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,400
Speaker 4: If you lose on Saturday night, it's one hundred, I'll

156
00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,520
Speaker 4: give you fifty.

157
00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,840
Speaker 2: The the reality of it, and I had to be said, oh,

158
00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,920
Speaker 2: you said you didn't have a breakdown. I'm not certain

159
00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,600
Speaker 2: that I didn't. Yeah, because it occurred to me that

160
00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,240
Speaker 2: basically every weekend. Now here's the thing that we have

161
00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,400
Speaker 2: to be careful of, because this is something that is

162
00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,919
Speaker 2: very specific to us and what we do for a living.

163
00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,760
Speaker 2: The gross majority of people still will have three weeks

164
00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,880
Speaker 2: of summer with their kids, if they have kids home,

165
00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,520
Speaker 2: those go well into August twenty October, which are great, Yeah,

166
00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,360
Speaker 2: and they're and they're out there living. But that that

167
00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,520
Speaker 2: ain't the case here. Over it's done economy.

168
00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,400
Speaker 3: I felt like it was over when I got back

169
00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,760
Speaker 3: from my wellness retreat because it was my birthday week

170
00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,360
Speaker 3: and then this week and then.

171
00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,920
Speaker 2: Bootsy my birthday week. Yeah, that's a shock. That's such,

172
00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,320
Speaker 2: that is so Bootsy Like, It's like, why one day,

173
00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,640
Speaker 2: how many celebrations did you have? One? Just on my birthday?

174
00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,320
Speaker 2: There was no other?

175
00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,200
Speaker 3: So I had a dinner with some friends on the third,

176
00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,760
Speaker 3: but I don't know, it wasn't like for my birthday

177
00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,040
Speaker 3: dinner was happening at one Yeah, okay, because I was

178
00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,640
Speaker 3: there and then I went out with on Friday?

179
00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,400
Speaker 2: Was there a little Saturday? Did you toast to your birthday? Sea?

180
00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:02,800
Speaker 5: No?

181
00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,120
Speaker 2: That it was just me and a guess you had

182
00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,800
Speaker 2: just three you had the three couple celebrate birthday week though.

183
00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,760
Speaker 2: That that struck me funny because that's a Bootsy line

184
00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,880
Speaker 2: for sure. Well, I love birthdays? Is he?

185
00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,280
Speaker 3: What's is he excited about? Is he excited about Saturday?

186
00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:15,480
Speaker 2: Is he?

187
00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,000
Speaker 3: Is he putting the malayka on everybody so he would

188
00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:18,480
Speaker 3: get there?

189
00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:18,640
Speaker 5: He?

190
00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:24,120
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I know he's he's who's playing in this.

191
00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,600
Speaker 2: NBC and Beamsy are both playing and Bootsy is just

192
00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,119
Speaker 2: he's along for the ride. So yeah, Beamsy's games are early.

193
00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,760
Speaker 2: I mean they're all early Saturday morning. Beamsy's games are eight,

194
00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,600
Speaker 2: nine and eleven twenty. Okay, so they're both a bracket teams.

195
00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,320
Speaker 2: They're so like it could go bad. We're down some guys,

196
00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,440
Speaker 2: so it could go bad. But it's really that one

197
00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,240
Speaker 2: o'clock game Saturday that'll be the determining factor. So we'll

198
00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,960
Speaker 2: see how that goes. But we need them both to

199
00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,760
Speaker 2: go out. It has to be six or not necessarily

200
00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,160
Speaker 2: owen six, but it has to be a losing like

201
00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,320
Speaker 2: if they both go one and two, then I don't

202
00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,960
Speaker 2: know that you would advance to knockout if you went

203
00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,520
Speaker 2: one and two, like you'd have to go two and

204
00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,160
Speaker 2: one I think to be able to go to knockout.

205
00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,640
Speaker 2: So that's in play. That's very much in play. We

206
00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:14,040
Speaker 2: did it went pretty well. NBC's team finished third in

207
00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,680
Speaker 2: their bracket in the tournament in Rockford, and Beamsy's team

208
00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,480
Speaker 2: lost in the semifinals in their tournament, so they made

209
00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,400
Speaker 2: they both. Beams' team went five and one went four

210
00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,600
Speaker 2: and one. I think this tournament's a little bit up

211
00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,280
Speaker 2: from that though, And all of the games are tight

212
00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,760
Speaker 2: because everybody's good. It's gonna so there's no blowouts. There's

213
00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,800
Speaker 2: no blowouts. Every game's five to three, every game's tight.

214
00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,240
Speaker 2: So it's it's very much in play. We easily could

215
00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,040
Speaker 2: have gone like we went four and one or whatever.

216
00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,679
Speaker 2: We easily could have been one and four. It was

217
00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,200
Speaker 2: a couple of saves here or there that that did.

218
00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,199
Speaker 3: I don't like to root against them, but in this case,

219
00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,080
Speaker 3: I need them.

220
00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,760
Speaker 2: Well, I need you. Yeah, yeah, I'm less worried about that.

221
00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm more worried about I think it's that's very in

222
00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,240
Speaker 2: play that that could happen. I'm much more concerned about

223
00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:02,480
Speaker 2: Chicago the traffic because that's broken. Oh it's broken because

224
00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,880
Speaker 2: there's no way around it. They have no idea what

225
00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,360
Speaker 2: they're doing. There's they don't know how to handle a turnpike.

226
00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,600
Speaker 2: They don't have a panel, a pastell and a turnpike.

227
00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,840
Speaker 2: It's insane. I just was. I've never been more dis.

228
00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,800
Speaker 3: It takes anywhere.

229
00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm on two ninety four trying to go around the

230
00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,000
Speaker 2: western suburbs of Chicago to get to Rockford, and at

231
00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,520
Speaker 2: one point we stop on Sunday, mind you Sunday at

232
00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,560
Speaker 2: three thirty two weeks ago, and they said, you're in

233
00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,760
Speaker 2: traffic for forty five minutes. That's what Waves said. I'm like,

234
00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,600
Speaker 2: it ain't Monday at five, like it's Sunday.

235
00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, It does not matter

236
00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,000
Speaker 3: at all. While you are gone. I know, I'm sure

237
00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,040
Speaker 3: you were dialed into every show. Just yeah, did you

238
00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,160
Speaker 3: believe what he on the Thursday, the first day that

239
00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,079
Speaker 3: I come back from my wellness retreat where I was,

240
00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,520
Speaker 3: you were trying to get your mind right after and

241
00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,880
Speaker 3: body right, that's right. I got cleared by the doctors

242
00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,160
Speaker 3: that Thursday morning at u H, I come in here

243
00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,679
Speaker 3: and halfway through the show, Snake's Jeff Jarrett onto the

244
00:10:54,679 --> 00:11:00,440
Speaker 3: phone to merge me and the Cleveland, the city of Cleveland. Yeah, family,

245
00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,240
Speaker 3: all of it, and give a Gibbe was delighted.

246
00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,000
Speaker 2: It's everything he's ever wanted. It's everything he's ever wanted.

247
00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,800
Speaker 2: He finally had someone who was up to the challenge.

248
00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,560
Speaker 3: I had some of my buddies watched that segment and

249
00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,640
Speaker 3: they were on the floor like crying, laughing. It was

250
00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,360
Speaker 3: so good. GiB Gibbet was great. Although I have a

251
00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,600
Speaker 3: feeling on Saturday night, give me on Saturday night, you're

252
00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:23,960
Speaker 3: going to show your true colors.

253
00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,640
Speaker 4: Right am, I showing, are you buying my ticket?

254
00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,560
Speaker 3: If I have to buy you a ticket to get

255
00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,839
Speaker 3: there for fifteen dollars, i'll gladly do if that's If

256
00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,200
Speaker 3: that's where we're at, I want gibe with is with

257
00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,320
Speaker 3: like chest.

258
00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,440
Speaker 2: Moth Pedmans coming. Oh I know he is. Yeah, you

259
00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,960
Speaker 2: better come. Maybe it's gonna be great. That is gonna

260
00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,240
Speaker 2: be Yeah. So there's that, So that you got that

261
00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,920
Speaker 2: to look forward to. I'm headed so I'm I leave

262
00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,440
Speaker 2: Friday for that, so we head back.

263
00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:56,560
Speaker 3: To I will say this, I'll have just a little

264
00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,240
Speaker 3: spoiler for for Saturday.

265
00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,200
Speaker 2: I got my gear. Oh I saw yeah, yeah, it's unreal.

266
00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,760
Speaker 2: It is unreal. Yeah, unreal. Yeah, I was pretty floored

267
00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,360
Speaker 2: by it. I assumed you'd just be in like a

268
00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,520
Speaker 2: you know, black tank top and.

269
00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,040
Speaker 3: No, this is the guy who makes it makes yeah

270
00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,360
Speaker 3: all the guys.

271
00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,800
Speaker 2: No, he is like he is. Now, will you keep

272
00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,400
Speaker 2: that or will you sign it an auction it off

273
00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,439
Speaker 2: for charity?

274
00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,160
Speaker 3: No?

275
00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:24,760
Speaker 2: I will not.

276
00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,360
Speaker 3: I will absolutely keep that. I'm gonna get a mannequin.

277
00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,840
Speaker 3: I'm getting ten years from now. It's gonna be in

278
00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,839
Speaker 3: my basin like de la hoya, a mannequin on a

279
00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,240
Speaker 3: mannequin for sure.

280
00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,120
Speaker 2: And then I have another. I have the pieces office right,

281
00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,920
Speaker 2: the guitar up. It's gonna be. And now let's see

282
00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,680
Speaker 2: the shrine to me Dela Hoya in his house in Vegas,

283
00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,080
Speaker 2: he built the Holly Saunders, who's his girlfriend, from her

284
00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,680
Speaker 2: intern of mine. She they built this house and in

285
00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,240
Speaker 2: it she has all of his robes from his championship fights,

286
00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,360
Speaker 2: and she has mannequins with the robes in this room

287
00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,280
Speaker 2: with the belt but the belts around the mannequins, like,

288
00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,640
Speaker 2: so you go in there and then there it is

289
00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:04,920
Speaker 2: all of it.

290
00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,960
Speaker 3: Might just gonna be one a singular mannequin.

291
00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but proportionately probably similar to delacoy is twelve

292
00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:11,640
Speaker 2: or whatever he's got.

293
00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,880
Speaker 3: In fact, probably disproportionate. I got that, and then uh,

294
00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:17,839
Speaker 3: I'm going I.

295
00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,720
Speaker 2: See like ten years from now, just walking down walking

296
00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,480
Speaker 2: in walk, you know, miss k comes home. You're chilling

297
00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,439
Speaker 2: and you're just sitting there in the outfit and miss

298
00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,400
Speaker 2: Ka comes home and goes, what are we doing here? Tighter?

299
00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,000
Speaker 3: Great's are gonna get many wares. There's that and the

300
00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,439
Speaker 3: my like the hoodie thing is pretty good. But I'm

301
00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,040
Speaker 3: also going first time in my life I've never done this,

302
00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,719
Speaker 3: and I have to do it because I have developed

303
00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,280
Speaker 3: such an egregious farmer's hand or a golfer's hand. Sure

304
00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,679
Speaker 3: that it's like it looks I'm wearing a T shirt.

305
00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,360
Speaker 2: Okay, but it's as you would be. You're a man

306
00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,480
Speaker 2: in your forty and you play golf, for sure, there's

307
00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,079
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with you.

308
00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,079
Speaker 3: But I'm going to be wrestling, so I'm gonna get

309
00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:58,559
Speaker 3: first time.

310
00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,360
Speaker 2: Don't say it spray.

311
00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:06,400
Speaker 3: Tan baby, and I'm going for what I am going

312
00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,840
Speaker 3: to Just wait, I'm going for Hollywood Hulk, Hogan, Mahogany.

313
00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,319
Speaker 2: That's what I'm going for. It's gonna be unreal.

314
00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,360
Speaker 4: Do you have to Is this the one where you like,

315
00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,200
Speaker 4: do you stand?

316
00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,680
Speaker 2: And then just yeah, I got an artist? What does

317
00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,600
Speaker 2: that even? What does that even cost?

318
00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,360
Speaker 3: It's not about I thought it was really I thought

319
00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,400
Speaker 3: five x that.

320
00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, remember you guys ever do this? When

321
00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,400
Speaker 2: you would do the did you ever do this? You

322
00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,520
Speaker 2: would do the spring breaks and you'd be like, I

323
00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,800
Speaker 2: gotta get a base, so like before you go to

324
00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,160
Speaker 2: spring bake, you'd go tan Like for a while, I

325
00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,120
Speaker 2: never because well, you also went to school in the

326
00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,000
Speaker 2: South and you so you were never in a situation

327
00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,960
Speaker 2: like the rest of us where we were in the

328
00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,200
Speaker 2: throes of winter and then hadn't seen sun in months

329
00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,080
Speaker 2: and be like, Okay, I'm gonna look like powder. I'm

330
00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:58,240
Speaker 2: gonna go powder look like powder. But that's a that's

331
00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,280
Speaker 2: a very solid reference for those who are of a

332
00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,680
Speaker 2: certain age. That's very very exactly well going. That's what

333
00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,840
Speaker 2: I'm going for. Oh God, I didn't need to see it.

334
00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,440
Speaker 2: I know what it is. I mean he almost looked

335
00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,120
Speaker 2: it looked like he was plastic. Well that's what I'm

336
00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,800
Speaker 2: going You go get the bass. You get the bass.

337
00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,280
Speaker 2: So that when you got to the Mexicos.

338
00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,000
Speaker 3: He gave me some great tips because he's he's a big,

339
00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,520
Speaker 3: big show spray tan guy.

340
00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,560
Speaker 2: And yeah, he told me how to get it. Like

341
00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,520
Speaker 2: how hard can it be? Now you got it? You

342
00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,280
Speaker 2: got it. This isn't National treasure. Now spray tany dark

343
00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:31,200
Speaker 2: the end.

344
00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then it's when you shower and there's a lot,

345
00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,840
Speaker 3: there's there's a lot to it.

346
00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,720
Speaker 2: No, I think you're safe. I don't. I don't think

347
00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,080
Speaker 2: there is. I think you go get a spray tan

348
00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,040
Speaker 2: really dark. You just do it the day of the event.

349
00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,120
Speaker 3: No, you no, no, no, it's missing because it needs

350
00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,280
Speaker 3: at least twenty four fully to reach peak.

351
00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,760
Speaker 4: God, it's gonna be I can't believe this is actually

352
00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:52,560
Speaker 4: gonna be something.

353
00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,560
Speaker 2: It's going to be something. My friend. Hey, happy birthday

354
00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,400
Speaker 2: to the Chief twenty eight.

355
00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,360
Speaker 3: When he was twenty when we drafted him.

356
00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,720
Speaker 2: He's just years of that crazy just a we lad

357
00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty years old man. Yeah, yeah, twenty guys, it's

358
00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,720
Speaker 2: been a crazy I'd make an argument, especially once the

359
00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,120
Speaker 2: injury to Chubb happened, with the exception of Flacco, because

360
00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,080
Speaker 2: that was a sensation, but that Chief was the most

361
00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,160
Speaker 2: popular guy, like he became you know, he kind of

362
00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,320
Speaker 2: became what Jarvis was. Jarvis was that guy, and then

363
00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,800
Speaker 2: Jarvis parted ways, the team in Jarvis parted ways, and

364
00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,320
Speaker 2: then there was who was going to be like that

365
00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,560
Speaker 2: emotional dude, chesty kind of follow me to freedom guy

366
00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,680
Speaker 2: on the offensive side, and I think Chief jumped into

367
00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,320
Speaker 2: that and you would not have had that, I mean

368
00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,800
Speaker 2: four or five years ago. You think about how the

369
00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,760
Speaker 2: relationship was, and then now he's one of the more

370
00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,240
Speaker 2: beloved guys.

371
00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,200
Speaker 3: He Sefanski told a great story about him. You remember

372
00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,480
Speaker 3: his and how could he forget. Of course you're you're

373
00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,520
Speaker 3: not gonna forget. But his one handed catch against the

374
00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,880
Speaker 3: Bucks yes to force overtime, and then that beat Tom

375
00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,800
Speaker 3: Brady in the last game that he ever played in

376
00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,440
Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown Stadium. And they ran the play on in

377
00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,520
Speaker 3: practice on Friday and threw the ball basically in the

378
00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,200
Speaker 3: same spot and he kind of went like and didn't

379
00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,080
Speaker 3: catch it, and there was it there in the meeting,

380
00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,080
Speaker 3: and I guess it was there was attention was called

381
00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,880
Speaker 3: to that, and yeah, he's like, that's Friday Dave. It's

382
00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,040
Speaker 3: that Sunday Dave. He's like, Sunday Dave's going to catch it.

383
00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,879
Speaker 3: Then when he caught it, they were called them Sunday Day.

384
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,240
Speaker 2: Sunday Dave is pretty good. Sunday Dave. Yeah, that's pretty good.

385
00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,840
Speaker 2: So happy birthday, Chief.

386
00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,840
Speaker 3: I will tell you I've actually had a bunch of

387
00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,840
Speaker 3: the guys on the roster. Nobody's here unfortunately for Saturday night,

388
00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,000
Speaker 3: but I've got a bunch of guys on the roster

389
00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,679
Speaker 3: reach out to me being like this is so awesome

390
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,440
Speaker 3: and we wish we were in town to come.

391
00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, well they can afford it.

392
00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,200
Speaker 3: Was like, hop on up.

393
00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,280
Speaker 2: If they really meant it, then they would be here,

394
00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,200
Speaker 2: hop on up and then many of them have access

395
00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,520
Speaker 2: to private aviation. You can land right there at the

396
00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,439
Speaker 2: lake and then where you go.

397
00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,840
Speaker 3: You know who's loving this blast from the past, Gibbe,

398
00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,640
Speaker 3: I'll give you one guess on the former Brown front

399
00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,919
Speaker 3: of the show. Yeah, big play gears all over this.

400
00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,679
Speaker 2: He's big part of it.

401
00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,480
Speaker 3: He's got a ring at his house in Florida just

402
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:04,920
Speaker 3: for fun.

403
00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he should.

404
00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,680
Speaker 3: Do something like this, I know. But it turns out

405
00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,840
Speaker 3: while it is fun, yeah, it's not fun because it

406
00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,160
Speaker 3: hurts everything you do when the ring hurts. So it's

407
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,879
Speaker 3: not you go in there and play around and be

408
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,720
Speaker 3: like let me bump for you or let you bump me.

409
00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,359
Speaker 2: No, no, it's gonna suck. Yeah. Yeah, I think I

410
00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,880
Speaker 2: don't know that anybody doesn't think that. Does anybody think

411
00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,240
Speaker 2: like it's all just fun and games?

412
00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,879
Speaker 3: Like I think everybody thinks it's a trampoline.

413
00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,879
Speaker 2: Not not a trampoline not. I remember Laura and I

414
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,840
Speaker 2: is telling me like the first time his dad was

415
00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,560
Speaker 2: like James and his buddies were like wanting to be

416
00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,880
Speaker 2: professional wrestlers because of natural course and when they were

417
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,840
Speaker 2: young and his dad took him and it was at

418
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,080
Speaker 2: Mania or something like that, and his dad took him

419
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,359
Speaker 2: and brought him and his buddies. It was the Marian Barber,

420
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,760
Speaker 2: the former Cowboys running back, was his best friend grown

421
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,879
Speaker 2: up and the Barbarian Uh yeah, wow. Yeah, they played

422
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,679
Speaker 2: on the same youth team, gone to all that stuff. No,

423
00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 2: the the.

424
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,399
Speaker 3: Brother, the brother was his best buy, the brother of

425
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,040
Speaker 3: Marion Barber.

426
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I believes yeah, because he's still alive. The

427
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 2: older brother was, Yeah, is the one who passed the

428
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:14,879
Speaker 2: younger brother. So anyway, they go to WrestleMania and his

429
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,880
Speaker 2: dad's like, well, go ahead, go fly off the rope.

430
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,920
Speaker 2: Lets see a bounce off the ropes. And they went

431
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,159
Speaker 2: and did it and they were like, oh, and I

432
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 2: think people think that it's like a rubber band, but

433
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 2: it is hard. I have a bruise here and here

434
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,480
Speaker 2: that is the exact of the rope. Yeah. You think

435
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 2: like it's hundreds of times now, yeah, and you think

436
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 2: like you see it on TV and you're like, oh,

437
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,120
Speaker 2: that must just springboard you off like a trampoline. No,

438
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 2: not not Dom Barber. I think was this Marian's brother.

439
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 3: Who was his by the way, you know, I'm big

440
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 3: on the recruiting circuit. Yeah, I saw your your boy

441
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 3: landed a couple of top five linebackers.

442
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 2: Congrats. Yeah, charismatic dude, And I know you were plugged

443
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 2: into that. I so s put us on a text

444
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 2: chain and I'm like, S, just let's just go direct,

445
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,200
Speaker 2: like Ze does not need to be woken up at

446
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,639
Speaker 2: seven twenty on a Thursday to break down Ohio state recruiting.

447
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,360
Speaker 2: I'd be happy to do it with you. Yeah, I'll

448
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 2: help you. We'll talk. It's good to be in loop. Yeah,

449
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 2: but you don't need to do that. Did you see?

450
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 2: And I see we have a little bit later. We

451
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 2: have a list, a fun little list of top fifty

452
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 2: or top you know, the top fifty television shows of

453
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 2: all time. So we'll have a little bit of fun

454
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: with that list. We You and I are both caught

455
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 2: up on House of the d Yeah, it's great.

456
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 3: That episode was awesome and You're right it was. It

457
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 3: was emotional. I was even emotional for the dragons.

458
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 2: It was.

459
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hard to watch them be what the

460
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 3: way that they were taken down.

461
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 2: I felt the way that I feel about I'm trying

462
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 2: to like it kind of felt a little bit like,

463
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 2: have you ever been to a bullfight? No, so sadly

464
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 2: I have. It wasn't the most well run bullfight in

465
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 2: the world, so it was even more gruesome than you

466
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 2: could imagine that Mattador got Gord. We were in mass

467
00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: It was a mess, just a bloody mess. But that's

468
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 2: kind of how I felt watching it, except that obviously

469
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: that was in real life and this is CGI, but

470
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 2: just the notion of like, these beasts don't want to

471
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: be there, they're chilling man, and now all of a

472
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 2: sudden it's like, okay, And they kind of fought like cats.

473
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen cats fight? Like with the scratching

474
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 2: and the clawing and the next and all of that. Yeah,

475
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: they kind of fought like cats. Yeah, I you know this,

476
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: This will make sense in a second. During COVID, we

477
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: were watching all the Avengers movies and some of the

478
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 2: Justice League stuff, and we were I was having the

479
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 2: boys pick, like, like, oh, who's your favorite Superman superhero?

480
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 2: And an NBC I think it was like Tony Stark

481
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: and Boots he was Batman and so forth, and Beams

482
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 2: he goes Superman, and so because I've always found super

483
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 2: not very interesting. Yeah, and he goes, And I said, well, Beams,

484
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 2: why'd you pick Superhan He goes, because he can do everything.

485
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: I said, it's a good answer. He really is impervious

486
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: to all except for a jewel that is perfect except

487
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 2: for but it's only it's not even on this planet.

488
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,959
Speaker 2: It's on Crypton. It's got to be brought in like

489
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 2: it's he's in pervious. And that's pretty good answer. That

490
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: makes sense. That's how I feel about these dragons, Like

491
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: we spend all these time worrying about houses and castles

492
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,239
Speaker 2: and all of this. Just fly a dragon and it's done. Well.

493
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 3: It's wild, though, is that they're gonna be gone?

494
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 2: Well they are, Yeah, that's and that's the deal. I

495
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 2: don't understand how that big one's ever gonna lose.

496
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 3: It feels like it doesn't even feel me like three

497
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 3: of them make that big of a difference, Like if

498
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 3: it was three on one.

499
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be the most ultimate sneak attack

500
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: of all time to get him.

501
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 3: Yes, boilers obviously, but if aim and like when he

502
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 3: went after his brother was pretty that was pretty harsh. Yeah,

503
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: but then I think it all adds up. Of course

504
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: it also and also like there can be like, I

505
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 3: don't like you. I actually have the job, the role

506
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: you have, these people marry the like it's like you

507
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 3: embarrass me in a brothel.

508
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 2: But it was there's more than that. Remember when he

509
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: couldn't get a dragon to be his own, his brother

510
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 2: was in with the nearest kids and brought him the pig.

511
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 2: Do you remember that? I know, he's so like, it's

512
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: just been building for a while. It's all so strange

513
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 2: that they cast Eggon's the older brother and they cast

514
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: the younger brother significantly bigger in stature. Yeah, looks and

515
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 2: looks and looks older quite honestly, like Eggon looks quite young.

516
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: He does not at all look like he's the older

517
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: brother in any way. No, so that that was an

518
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: odd choice. But yeah, like the idea with having these dragons,

519
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: it's like, well, what difference does it make with the army,

520
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: Like you just annihilate pretty quickly. Feels like he could

521
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 2: win the whole war in a day.

522
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 3: Kristen call so despicable.

523
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, who isn't they're all pretty bad. I

524
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: think Ranier is actually pretty good.

525
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: I don't think Raniera is about any of the bad stuff.

526
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, yeah, I mean, but she's

527
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: pretty earnest, dude. She she she's not. Do you remember

528
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 2: season one all of her high jinks. Probably not, well

529
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: it's not for air, but it's there's a lot of

530
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: high jinks. I mean, her children are not her husband's children.

531
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 2: Oh we know that, I mean, right.

532
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: But that was this is I mean okay, but like

533
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: that's everybody who's been a king or a queen or

534
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: a in that era where they had.

535
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: They didn't claim them. She was like, it's not a

536
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: lie if you believe it. Yeah, yeah, well wait a second.

537
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: They don't look at all like you or your husband.

538
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: They look exactly like this guy who's around you. And

539
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, I pay no attention to that. These

540
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 2: aren't the drones you're looking for. Okay, I'm saying, in

541
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 2: the world is not even that's all. It's Targarian's I mean,

542
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: the other guy marries. That's nothing compared to what the

543
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 2: Only true made her uncle on the day she buried

544
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: her fake husband, the only.

545
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: Who was and by the way, and her fake husband

546
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 3: was killed by his own brother.

547
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: Who isn't actually dead. No no, no, not that guy.

548
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 3: The oh, the fake one, the real husband who was

549
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 3: the real the real father though, was taken out by

550
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 3: his own brother.

551
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: The own brother. Yeah, what a crazy series. This is

552
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: the first This was the first episode though, where it's

553
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 2: like someone that mattered was lost. It was good. I

554
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: was and I was like, ah, that sucks, and she

555
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: was great. She's great. Yeah, yeah, she was great. All Right,

556
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: there you go. Those are your hot topics of the

557
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: day that's presented by the University Hospitals. We will go

558
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 2: around the sports world, including a little bit of a

559
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: change to a sports documentary that was widely beloved a

560
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 2: year ago. Going to be a little different this year

561
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: and I think I actually like it. We'll get into

562
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: that coming up next. Cleveland Browns Daily eight fifty ESPN.

563
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Balley Bed

564
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland.

565
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: Billy, Joel and Rod Swarts together for the first time ever.

566
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 2: It is Friday, September thirteenth. Cleveland Brown Stadium tickets are

567
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 2: on sale now. It's a Cleveland Brownstadium dot com slash

568
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: Billion Rod twenty twenty four d twenty twenty four. Don't

569
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: miss Billy Joel, Rod Stewart they're together. It's one night only.

570
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: I know.

571
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 3: Is that to be a part of a one night

572
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: only situation?

573
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: You do? Is that the biggest? Is this the most

574
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: I've ever done a read? Yeah? I mean there's been

575
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 2: some others that are like we you know that have

576
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 2: been here over the course of the whole probley, But

577
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: in terms of like a promotional read, I think this

578
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: is the number one promotional read I've ever done. Yeah.

579
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: The billion Rod one Yep, all right around the Sports

580
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 2: World Receiver debuts today on Netflix. The intro features Peyton

581
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: Manning passing the torch to Randy Moss. So the reason

582
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: that this happened they couldn't get any quarterbacks to do

583
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: it is the genesis of this. Manning talked about this

584
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago that we just couldn't get

585
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: any quarterbacks to do it like we had, he goes.

586
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: I think everybody had a good time Mahomes Cousins. Like

587
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 2: the only one who kind of didn't was Mariota because

588
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: it went sideways. But they kind of aborted that storyline

589
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: once it's gone. But the Mahomes Cousins thing, I thought

590
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 2: Cousin's benefited tremendously from it. Yes, you saw him as

591
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: a much much more likable light than I ever would

592
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: have known previously, for sure, but he couldn't get any

593
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: quarterbacks to do it. He got a lot of no's,

594
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: and so they pivot and they go receiver. And I

595
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: think this has a chance to be pretty sweet. Agreed.

596
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: I think it not only has a chance, I think

597
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: it will be pretty sweet. That's going to be incredible.

598
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: I'm excited for that. Have you been watching any of

599
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: the d season hard knocks or the off season hard knocks?

600
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: Now, I've seen some of the clips, like I've seen

601
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: the Marvin Harrison clip, and I I've seen some of

602
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: the Dable stuff that's going around Dable.

603
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: I think comes off great. I can tell you, I

604
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: don't know. I want to word this.

605
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 2: Easy, easy, yeah, easy. You're one man, one man. You're

606
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: one man. You don't need a band. One man, one man,

607
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: not a duo. Solo act. That's yeah, solo act.

608
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: Why seeing that makes me feel so good about our

609
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: front office and our processes.

610
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

611
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: And the way that they communicate and the way the

612
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: knowledge that is in those rooms is is I feel

613
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 3: very very good that we have a competitive advantage over

614
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 3: certainly some franchises in the National Football League with the

615
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: way that we operate, and that the quality and the

616
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: intelligence of the people in that room.

617
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 2: And also I think just to for that, I don't

618
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: know exactly I can connect the dots, but I think

619
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: the you and I talked about about this a lot

620
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: around the draft. We talked about it with the resigning

621
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: of ab and Kevin. To finally have an organization that's

622
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: all rowing in the same direction, yeah, unified voice, all

623
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: with similar thought, similar way of going through it, similar processes.

624
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: That's how you end up with a roster like this.

625
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: And I think that there's this assumption that that most

626
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: football teams are run this way, and I think you

627
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: can just look at this one previous to this regime

628
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: and see that they're not that that a lot of

629
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: times that it is a power struggle. We were talking

630
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: about Game of Thrones House with Dragon. There is a

631
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: iron throne ish feel to a lot of these NFL

632
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: teams of it's I have the final say, and there's

633
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: they undercut each other left and right. I don't know

634
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: if that's what's happening in New York, but that certainly

635
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: happens around the league, and a lot of times you

636
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: will hire a coach and then a GM, or a

637
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: GM and then a coach, and unless you hire them

638
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: both at the same time and they are symbiotic, it's

639
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: tough to it's tough to find true synergy.

640
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: It is And as I said, I feel very very

641
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: fortunate with everything that is going on right now in

642
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: our building, and I think as a Browns fan, you

643
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: should feel very good about the things that are going

644
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: on in our building right now. And I think it's

645
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: an interesting show. It's unbelievable access. It's really fascinating, fascinating access,

646
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: and I think that you you see how certain things

647
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: are done. I think what's interesting is kind of the

648
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: battle between I think that there's a place for traditional scouting,

649
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: and I think that works very well. That's the meat

650
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: and potatoes of it. Watching the film, watching the tape,

651
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: drawing your conclusions, and then there are also analytical things

652
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: that can you know, stats or trends that buttress your

653
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: your observations and can lead you to a very strong conclusion.

654
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: There was one thing that really stood out to me

655
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 3: when they were talking about Christian Wilkins, the defensive tackle

656
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: and one of this one of the scouts, I think

657
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: that they showed said something along the lines of, yeah,

658
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: Christian Wilkins, he's good and all, but you know, he's

659
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: not a difference maker on third downs. And somebody who

660
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: was watching the show and he now signed.

661
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: I think he signed a.

662
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: Huge deal with the Raiders right this offseason, like a

663
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: massive deal. And he was coming off a you know,

664
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: career high nine sacks, all of that career high twenty

665
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: three quarterback hits. So perhaps prior to last season, prior

666
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: to his free agency season, you could say maybe he

667
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: wasn't that much of a third down difference maker. But

668
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: last year, angst all the interior guys, he was you know,

669
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: top three and third down sacks, pressures, all these various stats.

670
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: And I was so just to clear up the Giants

671
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: were considering getting in on Wilkins, yeah, because he's a

672
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: free agent coming out of miam And.

673
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: They showed one guy who said that, you know, I

674
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: like him and he's a good player, but he's not

675
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: a difference maker on third down. And I feel like

676
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: in our building, everybody in that room would already have

677
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: known what he was on third down, would have already

678
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: had those stats, that knew where he ranked in pressures, where.

679
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: He's So when the guy says this, he does not

680
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: have the information or no one in the room as.

681
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: Now it's anecdotal. That's actually not correct.

682
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: Correct, It's just I don't think he's good on third down,

683
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: or he doesn't seem like he's.

684
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: Going he's not enough a difference maker on third down.

685
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: Well, actually is actually is, he's quite dominant, right.

686
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: So it's stuff like that that you know, those are

687
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: subtle things and little things. But I think that you

688
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: know our building because you have everybody working together in

689
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: the front office that not only are the scouts with

690
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: their eyes, but they're armed with all that information so

691
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: they can say, oh, here's something I think, let me

692
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: go verify. No, the guy don't even that comment would

693
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: be made in our room, because I think everybody would

694
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: have the knowledge that if we're talking about Christian Wilkins,

695
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: we're going to know not only what we think with

696
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: our eyes, not only what the tape tells us, but

697
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: we're going to know what the analytics tell us as well,

698
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: and we're gonna have a full picture of that prospect.

699
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: So it was just they would have had the answers

700
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: to the test before the test.

701
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: That's what I mean at the table, Like, I don't

702
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: think that comment would have been made in our room, No,

703
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: by anyone, No, because you would have known better at

704
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: any level you you had been armed with the data, right,

705
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 3: that would have matched up.

706
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

707
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, So in that way, it makes you, It makes

708
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: you feel good about about what's going to do.

709
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: You have a theory as to why it is not

710
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: getting the buzz that normal hard Knocks does.

711
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: It's off season. It is kind of a dead period.

712
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: I think for real football people are are really enjoying it.

713
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: But it's I mean, it's tough.

714
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: Like the summer is the time to be out and

715
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: about and to be unplugged and to be you know,

716
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: taking vacations and getting outside. And you know, at the

717
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: Winner when it's that's I'll get on my soapbox forever.

718
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: Let's like regulate the time, like it never needs to

719
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: be light until nine o'clock at night, as wonderful as

720
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: it is, but it certainly never needs to be dark

721
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: at five o'clock at night.

722
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: Never.

723
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: So let's just hit a sweet spot in here. We'll

724
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: enjoy it great. But I think that's it. In The Winner,

725
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: that's when you consume live because you're bundled up inside. Yeah,

726
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: and it's dark early and you're like, all right, well

727
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: we'll throw on some.

728
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: Shows, right. But the Hard Knocks training camp is a phenomenal.

729
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: It's a phenomena because that's getting you ready to hear

730
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: the football because.

731
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: People are hungry for it. And I think the reason

732
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: the end Season one has to this point been pretty

733
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: tepidly received is because we are already getting all of

734
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: our football. It's too much damn football.

735
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: This off Season one really should be happening in real

736
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: time from and it could go like right after free

737
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: agency and almost like up to the draft. Then you'd

738
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: have the last episode to be right after the draft.

739
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: It would show like, okay, how we made these draft picks,

740
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: so it covers kind of combine free agency, draft, and

741
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: maybe it's spaced out a little bit, you know, you

742
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: only have an episode every couple of weeks or whatever.

743
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: But I think that would be. Now it's the summer.

744
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: We already know Saquon Barkley went to the Eagles, so like, yeah,

745
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: it's cool to see the story of you know, them

746
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: saying you know, there's one guy on there and there

747
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: said was like, what's our identity if we don't have

748
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley, Like, well, you've hey, you've known for the years,

749
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: you've seen, you've seen a couple of years.

750
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: It's seen.

751
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 3: It not great, But at the same time, your identity

752
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 3: can't be based around a running back. I mean, that's

753
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: just not how the NFL works anymore. So I thought

754
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 3: it was. I think it's it's a it's an interesting watch.

755
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: There have been actually a couple of kind of documentary

756
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: things that have been interested the w W just Gate

757
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 3: put out there kind of behind the scenes on like

758
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: how WrestleMania came together and like the original no this one,

759
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: so like the real stuff, like Cody was not gonna

760
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: face Roman Reigns and it was going to be the

761
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: Rock and how they you know, the Rock they switch

762
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: switched and then he's to create the final Boss, which

763
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: is was unbelievable.

764
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, and.

765
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: Cody did some things kind of on his own at

766
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: the end when he run the rum while he pointed

767
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: Roman Reigns wasn't supposed to do this. So there's some

768
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: interesting kind of things that happened in the way they

769
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: talk about it. But the Rocks getting memed all over

770
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: the place because he does take like a little bit

771
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: of credit for what he did, but at the same

772
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 3: time he deserves a lot of the credit for what

773
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: it would be. Yeah, where he's doing this and it's

774
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: like basically everything he says is the smartest thing ever.

775
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 3: Like oh and then I told him to do and

776
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 3: it could be about anything, but yeah, yeah, that's why

777
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: he's been on there. But it's I mean, phenomenal, phenomenal

778
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 3: speaking of it is sports. It's a crossover. I mean,

779
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: you know, we don't get the politics on the show,

780
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: and we won't now either, But a sports challenge was

781
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: made last night.

782
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: It was I didn't see it. What No, I didn't

783
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: see it.

784
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: At his rally in Florida, Oh God, go ahead, former

785
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: President Donald Trump challenged Joe Biden to a televised golf

786
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: exhibition at Darrell, which he owns, and.

787
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: He's going he's good.

788
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: He will give Joe Biden ten strokes a side, and

789
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: if he if Joe Biden can beat him, he'll donate

790
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: a million dollars to the charity of his choice.

791
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: Number one is the most powerful country in the world.

792
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 2: This is a presidential election, and this is what we're doing.

793
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: Listen to this level of entertainment. It's kind of terrifying

794
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 3: that it is. But if somebody's offering you, if you

795
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: if you were decent, you're getting ten shots aside, you

796
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: gotta take. You got it, you gotta take. You gotta

797
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: say okay, fine. It would be the most It might

798
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: be the most watched television event for three holes until

799
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: it was just terrible.

800
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: Sure. Ever, yes, but I would hope that anyone who

801
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: is actually doing the job of President of the United

802
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: States would not actually entertain that, because I don't know.

803
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on in the world at the moment. Listen,

804
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: you had time for Let's make him made for TV.

805
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: Who's got time? I need to play every day at

806
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: the Army Navy course for any two weeks. That's what

807
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 2: I need to do to get ready for it. What

808
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: are we getting? Tennis side? Tennis side? That's a lot

809
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: of strokes. It is uh Kawhi Leonard dropping out of

810
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: the Paris Olympics USA basketball due to chronic Isn't it.

811
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: Crazy what we just talked about Israel? It's not even

812
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: made up.

813
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: I just think that's where we are, dude, where it is? Yeah, yeah, no,

814
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: there was a time. It's not worth it. It's not worth

815
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: it if ill let's let's stop, let's do this. Uh,

816
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: this is slightly less controversial and there's less in trouble.

817
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah on it. This is uh this was Sports Big

818
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: twelve Media Day was yes, no, this is slightly lightly less,

819
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: slightly less. So he's actually the number three drank player

820
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: in the college football video game which is coming out

821
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: this running back Ali Gordon is one of the best

822
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: running backs in college football. He was pinched for DUI

823
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: back on October thirtieth. Now he's twenty, which I think

824
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: is kind of critical to this, and head coach Mike

825
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: Gunny made the decision not to suspend him at all.

826
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: So he was asked about it, and here's what Mike Gundy,

827
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: who by the way, still wears a mullet unbelievable, like

828
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: a really quaff like Billy ray Cyrus mullet. Uh, here's

829
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: what he had to say about it. So I looked

830
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: it up on my phone.

831
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 5: What would be the legal limit like in Oklahoma's point

832
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 5: eight and Ollie was point one. So I looked it

833
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 5: up and it was based on body weight, not to

834
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 5: get into the legal side of it, but I thought,

835
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 5: really two or three beers or four. I'm not justifying

836
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 5: what all he did.

837
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: I'm telling you what decision I made.

838
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 5: Well, I thought, I've probably done that a thousand times

839
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 5: in my life, and and I'm you know, it's just fine.

840
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: So I got lucky. People get lucky. All.

841
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 5: He made a decision that he wished he could have

842
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 5: done better. But when I talked to Ollie, I told

843
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 5: him said, you're lucky you got out light.

844
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 2: So he then last night he backtracked this and he said,

845
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: he goes, look, I meant I made a thousand bad decisions,

846
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: to which I say, no, that's a lot. You know.

847
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: He's saying that I've driven a thousand times a few pots.

848
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and guess what most people out there listening have too. Yes,

849
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: and I have. And I'm sure I won't speak for you,

850
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: but I'm sure you have and everybody has. It's and

851
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where you that that happens.

852
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: But it's one thing for everybody to acknowledge that, yeah,

853
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: I've probably done that a few times. It's another thing

854
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 2: for a football coach to say it. And then it's

855
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: quite another thing for the fact that the kid's twenty.

856
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 3: Well, he said the quiet part out loud, that's whatever

857
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 3: keeps saying, and he said, yeah, like, but.

858
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: The kid's twenty two, So there's that part of it.

859
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: It's not he's not even twenty one.

860
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: No, he's not of legal drinking age. So is it

861
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: different in Oklahoma? No, we have a national state, right,

862
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 2: I think so? Isn't it's twenty one everywhere? Is it even?

863
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: I think the only place is not twenty No, I'm

864
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: pretty sure we have a national we have a national

865
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: drinking age.

866
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: It feels like it turning twenty one was a big deal. Yeah,

867
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: it was a very big deal. Yeah, he's a big

868
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: deal everywhere.

869
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, except Canada, where it's eighteen. But yeah, I think

870
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: I think so, I think that. So it's twenty one. Yeah,

871
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 2: twenty one everywhere, national standard.

872
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: Yeah except in Canada. Yeah, god bless forty five minutes

873
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 4: from college nineteen thriving.

874
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 2: Further for me, But we would That was a popular

875
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: destination in the summertime, would be to head up there.

876
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: Those days you need a passport. There was just the

877
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: border agent and you would just say, what, what are

878
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: your purposes? We're gonna have a few pops, Oh, okay,

879
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: drive safe.

880
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 4: We're gonna cram the four car loads of people behind

881
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 4: us into one room at the days in and Windsor,

882
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 4: and we're gonna tie one on tonight. The good news

883
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: is we are not driving. The bad news is it

884
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 4: might look like a refugee camp by the time we're done.

885
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Windsor has many things that a young college person would enjoy,

886
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: right there, Yes, a great many things. Yeah, yeah, all right,

887
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: well we'll do a little position preview heading into training camp.

888
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: Coming up next, listen to cleveand Bron Saaley brought you

889
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: by bally Bet Sports Betting part near Cleveland Browns Now

890
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: Live in ohioan eight fifty ESPN.

891
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bed

892
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland.

893
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: Such It. Home Owners, your roof ready with stand another

894
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: harsh winner, don't wait until it's too late. Renew Home

895
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: Series is offering a free roof inspection with a detailed

896
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: report in quotes for repairs or replacement. The expert team

897
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: at renew will assess the condition of your roof, provide

898
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: you with the information you need to make an informed

899
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: decision before the winter months arrive. They'll be here before

900
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: you know it protect your home and your family. Do

901
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: it from the elements. Visit renewestimate dot com today to

902
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: schedule your free roof inspection. Don't let winter sneak up

903
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: on you. Renew home Exteriors, your trusted partner, your home

904
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: safe and sound, one roof at a time. All right,

905
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 2: Time for positional preview. We are what are we quarterbacks

906
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: and rookies a week from next Monday? Like ten days out.

907
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 4: I can tell you coaches are back on the twenty

908
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 4: first rookies and qbs on Monday, the twenty second. Well

909
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: that's on the twenty third, and we fly Thursday morning.

910
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 3: To the This is that a new update? New stuff

911
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: has come to light?

912
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: No, but I think everything except the yeah fly thing, right, yeah,

913
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: well that's what I'm.

914
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 3: Talking about, the fly thing. Yeah, I'm talking about that.

915
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you and uh the voice because bishops on assignment.

916
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 4: You and the Voice will be live from the Greenbrier

917
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 4: on that Thursday at one o'clock.

918
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go, Okay, coming in? Where

919
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: are you going? Massachusetts?

920
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: More tournaments?

921
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh?

922
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: Last one? How about a date with the Kennedy's I

923
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: tried to do. Yeah? Were they Nantucket? Was that their

924
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: operation for Martha's.

925
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: Vineyard, Martha's Field.

926
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: I feel, yeah, Cape, and you zip up to Kenny Bunkport,

927
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: you get the bush any bunk An, you get it all.

928
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 3: That's main right.

929
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's pretty close. Very I think we're

930
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: gonna zip up there a little bit.

931
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: When we're up there, check out a little Kenny Bunkport.

932
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, potentially that's exciting. I don't know, it's a

933
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: whole summer of youth sports. So there you go.

934
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: Well, that's exciting, Camp Scar.

935
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: It is, it is, but it also there's an end

936
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: to it. But as we do the positional preview on

937
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: the quarterback situation, we got a lot of guys in

938
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: that room.

939
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, We've got We've got a former number one

940
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 3: overall pick. We've got a three time Pro Bowler, we've

941
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: got a one time pro, we got two one time

942
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: Pro Bowlers, and we got our guy dtr who beat

943
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: the Steelers in Jim Donovan's return game. And so I

944
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: think for that is always a somewhat of a Cleveland legend.

945
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I would agree. How do you think

946
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski manages reps? I spend a lot of time

947
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: in the morning time. OHI, I say, that's five scholarship quarterbacks.

948
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: It's a little different than this. But how will Kevin

949
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: Stefanski manage for quarterbacks? You have a young guy who

950
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: you really like in DTR who's coming off of an

951
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: injury that was a serious one, and you want him

952
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: to continue to develop. But at the same time, all

953
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: that really matters is that DeShawn is ten feet tall

954
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: and bulletproof by the time you get to the start

955
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: of the season, So how does he manage what is

956
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: a pretty crowded room juxtaposed to what it was a

957
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: year ago.

958
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: Your singular focus is on Deshaun Watson. I mean that's

959
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: and that's the way that it's got to be. I

960
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: think that's the way that it will be. He looks

961
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: great by the way.

962
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: I know that.

963
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: He's working out every single day. He obviously did everything

964
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: he had to do to be ahead of schedule in

965
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: his rehab. He clearly took that very seriously with doctor Vousen,

966
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 3: doctor La Tache. So I'm very confident in what he

967
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 3: has put forth. But that's the operation. Everything's about getting

968
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson ready, and it's getting Jameis Winson ready in

969
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: the case that you need him. Those are the top

970
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks. You hope that you do not play three

971
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 3: quarterbacks here. You hope you do not play four quarterbacks

972
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: this year. You don't hope you don't play five quarterbacks

973
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: as you did one season. Goal you hope to play

974
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: one court back quite frankly, the entire year and other

975
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: than some maybe some mop up duty or coming and

976
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: kneel the ball.

977
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: Jamis Winston.

978
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: This is about Deshaun Watson. So the reps should be

979
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: based on DeShawn. Then you should have reps be based

980
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: on you know, Jamis and getting him comfortable in the

981
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: event that he does need to go. And then you

982
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: know you're gonna get reps for Huntley and DTR when

983
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: you can, and that's gonna be That's gonna be it.

984
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: You know, it goes back to why they should be

985
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: having those leagues, you know, be able to take guys

986
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 3: like a DTR should ye starting quarterback in the UFL.

987
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs to play. These guys need to play.

988
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: And so he's gonna be two years basically potentially three

989
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: without really having much play and very little practicing. He's

990
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: gonna do a lot of it on his own. I'm

991
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: sure there'll be some scout team stuff, but like that's

992
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: not getting the reps. That's not you can't get better though.

993
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: That's why the NFL roster is not an incubator for

994
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: talent to be developed. You have to come in pretty

995
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: developed the practice and then they finish you. There's not

996
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: a there's not a red shirt situation in the NFL

997
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: where we can train guys to become pros like that,

998
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: he's already have been done because.

999
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: You know, on the prank squad, all you're doing is

1000
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: being scout team and you're defensively supposed to be letting

1001
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: the offense feel success and vice versa. So it's yeah,

1002
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: it's a tough situation there, but I think that that's

1003
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: what it's all about. It's about the Shawan, you know,

1004
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: eight and four as a starter here with the Cleveland

1005
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: Browns in his two seasons fourteen touchdowns, nine picks. Last

1006
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 3: year was seven touchdowns, four picks. It's about getting him,

1007
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: you know, back to being a guy who's going to

1008
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: throw for over two hundred and fifty yards a game,

1009
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: have a bunch of three hundred yard games, a guy

1010
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 3: who's going to you know, I have a quarterback rating

1011
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: in the hundreds. That's what he has done in his career,

1012
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: and so that's what you're that's really the whole goal,

1013
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: and I think you know that organizationally, that's the goal

1014
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: because that's why Ken Dorsey was brought in. Ken Dorsey

1015
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: was brought in to put it in an offense that

1016
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: suits our quarterback, perhaps a little bit better than the

1017
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: under center back to the defense, play action game, but

1018
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: more of a shotgun, spread options, all of those things.

1019
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: And that's why Jamis was brought in too, because he's

1020
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: familiar with playing in that system and so it works.

1021
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: It works for him. It's a familiar it's very familiar

1022
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: for him, and he'll be a great support system for DeShawn.

1023
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: He kind of preceded him in the Southern quarterback College

1024
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: Star guy similar both played the same conference Florida Sat

1025
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: Clemson are very similar universities. Jamis won the Heisman to

1026
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: Shawn won the national title. Jamis won a national title.

1027
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: So there's all of those things that were in it,

1028
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: and so there is a sense that this is now

1029
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: everything that has been done this offseason to get to

1030
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: Sewan comfortable and confident in playing the way that he

1031
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: played at the time when he was acquired and he

1032
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: The thing that sucks so bad last year is he

1033
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: was he finally did that, and then the injury happened.

1034
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: You finally had this game when you were like and

1035
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: he had a lot of solid games last year. I

1036
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: think sometimes people forget it, but the last game was

1037
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: sensational and it was like, Okay, let's go, and then

1038
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: the injury happens, and so you have to build that

1039
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: back up again. And Gibby and I were talking about

1040
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: this yesterday. This is why this is so difficult, because

1041
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: we were talking about just lamenting the fact that there's

1042
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: really no NFL news this summer. There really hasn't been,

1043
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: not the last two weeks, not really since the end

1044
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: of mini camp, there really hasn't been any news out

1045
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: of the National Football League, nothing noteworthy. And we were

1046
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 2: talking about it, I said, and we were saying, like, boy,

1047
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: you know, camp is going to be, for the for

1048
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: our standards, largely pretty dull from the standpoint of we

1049
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: have most things sorted like. He is the one thing

1050
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: that you just need to see it, and there's nothing

1051
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 2: you're going to see in camp or in preseason. Probably

1052
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: won't play at all, hardly in the preseason.

1053
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: We're all about the game. It's just the.

1054
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: Games that matter. And so unless it's just a disaster

1055
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: in camp, which I don't anticipate it being, there's nothing

1056
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: that you're going to see in camp that's going to

1057
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: provide much of an insight into what we're going to

1058
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: be in the season. So that's what's going to make

1059
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: it tough. And it's a very different place. We've been

1060
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: here now two years in a row. This season feels

1061
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: very much like lastly, and so you're in this position

1062
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: where Okay, let's just get to Dallas and see what

1063
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: that looks like, and then let's get six weeks from

1064
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: there and see what that looks like and so forth.

1065
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is I did the Garage Beers podcast last night,

1066
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: and yeah, the season is the season. The off season

1067
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: is not. Training camp is about. It's about finding out

1068
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: who is going to be the starting Sam linebacker. I mean,

1069
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,479
Speaker 3: is that really the one true starting job. Who's gonna

1070
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: be jacked up? Who's going to line up opposite Dalvin

1071
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: Tomlinson on snap one at defensive tackle? Even though we

1072
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: know there's gonna be a rotation. You know, what is

1073
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: my call going to bring the table is there a

1074
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: battle at right tackle? Is there is there a competition there?

1075
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: Maybe?

1076
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 3: But other than that, this is about going through these things,

1077
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: putting in good work, leaving intact and healthy, and getting

1078
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: ready for the Dallas Cowboys and beyond.

1079
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: I mean that's.

1080
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: Everything is there on paper for this team to win

1081
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: a super Bowl.

1082
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: Period. Yeah.

1083
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: So this season is about can we put it together

1084
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: in the most difficult division in the National Football League

1085
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: and arguably maybe one of the most loaded conferences in

1086
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: the history of the NFL. Can we be take that step,

1087
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: be a leae? Can we win this division? Can we

1088
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: host a playoff game? Can we get to the AFC

1089
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: Championship Game? Can we get to the Super Bowl? Can

1090
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 3: we win the Super Bowl? That's those Anything other than

1091
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: playoffs is I think a massive disappointment.

1092
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: I don't think you can do any of those things

1093
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: unless he's really good. I think he has to be

1094
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: really good.

1095
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: I think if he is top sixteen in the NFL,

1096
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 3: I think we can win the division.

1097
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: We can do all our rosters that good. You can't

1098
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: win the super Bowl if he's top sixteen.

1099
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: Probably not, But if he gets hot for a few

1100
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 3: got to.

1101
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: Be I think. I think if he's he's got to

1102
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: be real close to what he was in Houston.

1103
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: If he's top ten, win, we can win the Super Bowl.

1104
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, which is what he was. I mean at

1105
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: one point he was number one, So I think he

1106
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: could be. If he can be in that mix, then

1107
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: I think you got a chance. If he can give

1108
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: you a that type of season, like a Dak Prescott

1109
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 2: type season, something like that, that's gonna be good enough

1110
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: to where you can go and then you can make

1111
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: a run. But you have to there. You can't. Here's

1112
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: the deal with this. In this in this AFC, you

1113
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: can't cheat this. No, it's not. You're not gonna get

1114
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 2: a fluky champion of the a f C. The AFC

1115
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: champion is going to be robust, ye, And you're gonna

1116
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: have to go through some teams to do it. And

1117
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to beat some big time quarterbacks, m

1118
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: VP level quarterbacks to be able to do it. And

1119
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: by the way, you're getting Rogers back healthy, I have

1120
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: to assume Burl's gonna be back healthy at.

1121
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: Least they have to be in another A little seems

1122
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: like there's a little concern about him and down in

1123
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 3: Cincinnati and what he's like fashion Joe and coming back

1124
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 3: from injury where a.

1125
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: Little bit yea and his oaks a little bit like

1126
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 2: he's he's pretty pretty even. Keel kept things pretty simple,

1127
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: and then I think this summer, this offseason, he's kind

1128
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: of sowing his oaks a little bit, right. But the

1129
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: other thing is he only talks. He only talks to

1130
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: PMT his only interview he does all the time, the

1131
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: only one on one interview he does. Is a part

1132
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: of my take.

1133
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: Apparently pissed off the league, the players association good with

1134
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: one interview talking about the ideal eighteen game season.

1135
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: What would the players associate What was their bus.

1136
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: R against the eighteen game season.

1137
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: Well, it's coming, like you can be against it all

1138
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: you want, but he's coming. Just that felt like it.

1139
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: They felt like it weakened their leverage, that there were

1140
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: players who were actually already Oh yeah, there's a plan

1141
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: we'd be into.

1142
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: Oh I see, yeah, they have no leverage. There's gonna

1143
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: be eighteen and that's it. His plan obviously is nonsense too.

1144
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: You're never going to have an all star game in

1145
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: football in the middle of the season where the whole

1146
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: league's gonna take a week off and you're gonna go

1147
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: play a game like, no ever do that you could.

1148
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: I don't even know that you'd even have go do

1149
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 3: the skill COMPETI though you wouldn't.

1150
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: Some guy runs a route and look what having a

1151
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: Miles dodgeball around the hell? That was yeah, no, no,

1152
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 2: it's nonsense. And by the way, you think the NFL

1153
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: is going to give up a week of television programming

1154
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: in the middle of its season to give the whole

1155
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: league off. Never know what these networks are paying for

1156
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1157
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 3: No, it's gonna be buys would be on a on

1158
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: rotations around a third a third of the way. Because

1159
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: now you go that the good thing about eighteen games

1160
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: is now instead of sixteen was great, you had four

1161
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: quarters this season. Now you'll have three thirds.

1162
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: To the season.

1163
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it'll be six six six, and yourby should

1164
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: be lock in, locked in there.

1165
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, second hour of the program coming up next.

1166
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: We've been doing these breakdowns between PFF and ESPN in

1167
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: terms of like the top ten at positions we hit

1168
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: defensive end. You can bet Miles is on this list,

1169
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: but how high it's coming up next to listen to

1170
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: Cleveland Rons Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1171
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Ballely Bet now

1172
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1173
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: All right, welcomeheack in Cleveland brown Daily fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1174
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: Bowen z with you here on a fine first Friday

1175
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: edition of the program. GiB You and I did the

1176
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: running back rooms comparing PFF and ESPN. So remember, for

1177
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 2: in just pressure for you. The ESPN list is comprior.

1178
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: It's put together by Jeremy Fowler and he talks to

1179
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: scouts and executives to come up with this, and then

1180
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: there's a PFF list that theirs is just there. They

1181
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: come up with the numbers and they plug in the

1182
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: numbers and it spits out the return. Now, what was

1183
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: interesting is the running backs give you, I think only

1184
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 2: had one difference, right, correct, running backs only had one difference,

1185
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 2: and it was largely even similarly ranked. The running backs

1186
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: were very similar. Yep. I think Aaron Jones wasn't in,

1187
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: and I think Breece Hall wasn't. Breece Hall wasn't in

1188
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: the PFF what No, that was it right, Breese Hall?

1189
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 4: No, Breece Hall was number seven or eight that Aaron

1190
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 4: Jones was Aaron Jones wasn't.

1191
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the evaluators had him too, Yes, but the PFF

1192
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: had him further down. They had Derreck Henry too on PFO.

1193
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 2: I remember that. So Aaron Jones was not in the

1194
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: the one that the the executives did, but he was

1195
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: in the the one that PFF did. So that was

1196
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: kind of the only difference. Other than that, it was

1197
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: pretty much the same. There were much more discrepancies a

1198
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: defensive tackle. There were some bigger differences.

1199
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 5: Yea.

1200
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 3: I think you could get people that are great run

1201
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: stoppers that might not be valued as much as guys

1202
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: who are pass rushers or and vice versa. Yeah, all right,

1203
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: so this is I haven't looked at this list, by

1204
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 3: the way, and I'm going to try to see if

1205
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 3: I can how many of them I can get.

1206
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: Okay, you want to do which one? You want to do?

1207
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: The PFF or ESPN either, All right, do the ESPN one,

1208
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: all right? So top ten, Yeah, number one, miles. Indeed,

1209
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: he is, in fact the line, the first line of this.

1210
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: Garrett is now in tier one by himself, earning seventy

1211
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: percent of the first place votes. Here's a quote from

1212
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: an NFL coordinator. If you don't double team him, he's

1213
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: going to fan kill you. Yes, another great quote here

1214
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: on Miles. I don't think he's changed at all. He's

1215
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 2: just got more help around him, which accentuated his play.

1216
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: He's always been the same dominant guy of course. Reigning

1217
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year led all pass rushers and

1218
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: interceptions created by his pass rush with a total of six,

1219
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 2: a category all in to himself. Yeah. Yes, indeed, pretty

1220
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 2: amazing that we're going to go in a situation where

1221
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 2: continuously you're basically gonna have Joe Thomas or Miles Garrett

1222
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: on your lines. It's incredible, Like an argument is the greatest,

1223
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: one of the greatest five greatest left tackles ever, and

1224
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 2: Miles is on a trajectory now one of the greatest

1225
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 2: edges ever. Yeah, all of those things. It's pretty wild

1226
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: that you had that.

1227
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 4: Trevor Sikma for PFF had got Miles number one, as

1228
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 4: we number one.

1229
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: Okay, he's always been. PFF always loved Miles, even before

1230
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: people gave him his flowers. When people would worry about

1231
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: like the sack numbers or whatever and compare him to t. J. Watt,

1232
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: they PFF was always saying, Miles, Miles, Miles, all right,

1233
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 2: number two. What's your guest on number two?

1234
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 3: Number two for me is going to be Nick Bosa.

1235
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: That is incorrect. TJ Watt, yep, TJ Watt is number

1236
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: two for the executives. Where does TJ Watt fit for

1237
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 2: the PFF guys? Giving number four? Okay? Where's Nick? Bosa

1238
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: is number three? Okay? So Bosa's four on the evaluators list. Okay.

1239
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: Of TJ they write, he can be one high ranking

1240
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: NFL official. He can't be labeled a high motor guy.

1241
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: He's just exceptionally hard to block, probably the hardest in

1242
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: the league. He has technique, power, counters, violence, bend everything

1243
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: you want. Pretty amazing that one family produced JJ and

1244
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: t J Watt.

1245
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 4: Yes, and then brother who's a full back, that's right,

1246
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: who'd full back?

1247
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: Like nuts? Absolutely nuts that that that happened? All right?

1248
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 3: So's number four for number three.

1249
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: So Bosa on the comments on Bosa, awesome player, tough, explosive,

1250
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: can bend, can turn speed to power. Places ass off

1251
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: have to account for him all the time. He's one

1252
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: big muscle, has extreme leverage, power, just a knack for disruption.

1253
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: He was number four on the executive list. So you're

1254
00:57:54,280 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: looking for number three Micah Parsons Bingo unreal athleticism for position, twitch, speed,

1255
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: bend is phenomenal. His issues are really more in the

1256
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: run game than anything else. When he has to take

1257
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: on heavy stuff. That's where you feel the lack of

1258
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: size a bit. If you put him an outside linebacker

1259
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: all game in the same traditional spot, I'm not sure

1260
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: he'd have the same production. He needs to be moved around,

1261
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: in my opinion, but he's just good in that role

1262
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: and that he completely wrecks a game. I give Dallas

1263
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: a ton of credit because this is not the position

1264
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: he played at Ben State. No, and I don't think.

1265
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a position they drafted him,

1266
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: but they basically just said your weapon.

1267
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 3: You remember when he they would show it. I think

1268
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 3: then they have did they have.

1269
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: Hard knocks, had hard knocks and.

1270
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: He was working with DeMarcus Ware on pass rush moves

1271
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 3: and hands and I was like that was interesting, and

1272
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: then yeah, sure enough unleashed they did.

1273
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been quite good, very good job out of them.

1274
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: He's number two on PFF's list.

1275
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is the four are the same four

1276
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: same four, yep. All right, number five yep. So this

1277
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: is I think five to ten could be kind of

1278
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 3: at any order, but I'm going to go with I'm

1279
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 3: gonna go first with Daniel Hunter.

1280
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: Max Crosby, Okay, number five. Daniel Hunter is number seven

1281
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: on the personnel list, So Max Crosby.

1282
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: Where's the on PF? What's PFF gibbe for Daniel Hunter

1283
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 3: and Max Crosby.

1284
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 4: Max Crosby is number five for both Daneil Hunter is

1285
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 4: number sixteen?

1286
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: What the Crosby? So the same? They have the the Neil.

1287
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 3: Hunter had sixteen and a half sex and led the

1288
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: NFL twenty three tackles for loss last year.

1289
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: Right, he's pretty good and he've been good. PFF says no,

1290
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, Well, they still think he's good.

1291
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: He's just not at top ten for them. They. I

1292
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: think it's interesting that the executives and PFF have the

1293
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: exact same top five. Yep. I think it is too

1294
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 2: there you go, all right, So Daniel hunters seven, so

1295
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: you're looking for six.

1296
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson Aiden Hutchinson, Wow, I had a hit six.

1297
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: PFF has it number six as well. Same, so they

1298
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: have the exact same other than Micah and Watt. But

1299
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: they have the same six. Yeah, same six.

1300
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 3: Guy, who's where's Hendrickson? Is he in either top ten?

1301
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: He's nine. Trey Hendrickson's number nine on PS. Wow they

1302
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: have this list is really similar between the two all right,

1303
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: agent eight, Hutchets and six and then they have Daniel Hunters.

1304
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 3: So I named number eight Khalil Mack.

1305
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: Number eight is not Khalil Mack. Josh Allen, No, incorrect.

1306
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: Actually it's Josh Heinz Allen. You missed this or did

1307
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: you see it?

1308
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: I've seen it. I'm sorry, I'll right. Heines Josh Heines

1309
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: Allen is number eight.

1310
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: Number eight, okay?

1311
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 4: So I had so PFF had Khalil Mac number seven.

1312
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay? Uh?

1313
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 4: And then Josh Heinz Allen was number eight.

1314
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: Where where do the Khalil Mack is not in the

1315
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: top ten on the executives.

1316
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 3: Khalil Mack had seventeen sacks and twenty one tackles for

1317
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 3: lost last year. And if I don't know that this

1318
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 3: stat is possibly correct, but this says that he had

1319
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: ten passes defensed as well.

1320
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an honorable mention. Honorable mention for the executives.

1321
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: He's the first honorable mention.

1322
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm at so I just need number ten.

1323
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

1324
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: The order I have him is Montest sweat. Nope, I've

1325
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: got Montes sweat.

1326
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: I've got is a he's an honorable mention.

1327
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got Hassan Reddick honorable mention, and I've got Thibodeaux.

1328
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: Uh. Thibodeau is also receiving votes, not even honorable mention.

1329
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: So I'm missing. They have somebody that's in the tent.

1330
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 2: Here's the thing that's going to be tricky on this one.

1331
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: He's the only player in the top ten without a

1332
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 2: single top five vote and he played on a on

1333
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: a tough franchise to watch. Brian Burns nailed it. He's ten,

1334
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: but he had a down year, didn't he. Here's the

1335
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: quote on it. He has everything you want. The position

1336
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: will always be productive. The only thing he's lacking is

1337
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 2: elite power. Burns looked poised to crack the top five

1338
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: at lost momentum, needing tie breakers to take the tenth spot.

1339
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: He only had eight sacks.

1340
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 4: Last PFF has him his number twenty one.

1341
01:01:55,720 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're going to pair him with Thibodeau such

1342
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: a pretty good past rushing group. And I know it's

1343
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 3: not all about sex, but I mean Thibodeau was pretty

1344
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: good last year. Has Son Reddick's been pretty good? Son

1345
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: req has?

1346
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: How the hell are how is Brian burn Did they

1347
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: acquire Burns? The Giants did, yes, Son Reddick. How did

1348
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: they get Brian Burns? How did they carry? What is

1349
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: Carolina doing? I don't know.

1350
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 3: Son Reddicks had twelve and a half, eleven, sixteen, and

1351
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 3: eleven the last four years.

1352
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: Son Reddick is the answer to the question of who

1353
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: do you think has X amount of sacks and you'd

1354
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: be like, really, and yes, it's him. I was just

1355
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: always there.

1356
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 3: He's also the first guy ever to have double digit

1357
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 3: sex in three straight years with three different franchises, Arizona

1358
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 3: at twelve and a half and twenty, then Carolina for

1359
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 3: one year with eleven. So Carolina let him and Brian

1360
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: Burns just walk right out.

1361
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 4: So the Giants traded a twenty twenty four second and

1362
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 4: a fifth and a twenty twenty five conditional fifth to

1363
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 4: the Panthers for Burns and a twenty two twenty four

1364
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 4: fourth rounder.

1365
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 2: So that's what happens when you give up all those

1366
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 2: picks for Bryce Young, and you have to try to

1367
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: add talent because you don't have any. So you end

1368
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: up giving up a piece, a defensive end piece in

1369
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: the prime of his career, for ten cents on the dollar. Yep,

1370
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: because you needed. Probably, I'm guessing they drafted the receiver

1371
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: in the second round because you have no receivers. I

1372
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 2: bet anything they did. I have no idea. I don't

1373
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: know the Panthers that well, but my hunches they drafted

1374
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: a skill position player on offense.

1375
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 4: But by the way, Jalen Phillips was number ten for PFF.

1376
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 3: Jalen Phillips of the Dolphins.

1377
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 4: Yes, really, yep, our own Zadaria Smith number seventeen on

1378
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 4: their list.

1379
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 2: Nice.

1380
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 3: I'm surprised that reddicks and honorable mention. I'm surprised Trey

1381
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 3: Hendrickson's as low as he is. He's just incredibly productive.

1382
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 4: I don't remember him being that guy until he got

1383
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 4: to Cincinnati.

1384
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: No, so it was his mostly you're right, but it was.

1385
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 3: He had one huge year in New Orleans and then

1386
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 3: people were nervous to pay him. But he went in

1387
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 3: twenty twenty in New Orleans, he had thirteen and a half.

1388
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 3: Then the next year he comes to the Bengals and

1389
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 3: has fourteen and goes to the playoffs, that goes with

1390
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl. Then he has eight Pro Bowl and last

1391
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 3: year seventeen and a half.

1392
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a heck of a player. Yeah.

1393
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, So thirty nine and a half sacks in three seasons,

1394
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 3: he's averaged in thirteen and you know, basically thirteen and

1395
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 3: the third or thirteen and a sixth he was the season.

1396
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 2: There was the guy that we wanted who the Bengals

1397
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: had to choose between, and he got hurt right away.

1398
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: And say with the Jets, he's never been the same. Losson,

1399
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 2: he's never been the same. PFF loved him, and we're like, gosh,

1400
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: why didn't you sign Lawson? And he signed Hendrickson instead

1401
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: of the big money deal. And then Lawson got hurt

1402
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: and he's never been.

1403
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 3: So he missed all of twenty one, had seven sacks

1404
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 3: and twenty two and then last year only played six

1405
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 3: games and I think he was hurt.

1406
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: And who knows said the Panthers acquired the Browns pick

1407
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: was the second rounder.

1408
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 4: Second and a fourth this year, yeah, and the conditional fifth.

1409
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: Next Yeah, so they went exavier latt Legott in the

1410
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: first round, which would have been whose pick would that

1411
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 2: have been that Carolina would have had? That was twenty

1412
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: second overall wide receiver out of South Carolina. It's not

1413
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 2: their own. No, Jonathan Brooks the running back out of Texas,

1414
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: so that would have been the second round pick. So weapons.

1415
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: Then you said, fourth round pick, that's tight end Jatavian

1416
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 2: Sanders out of Texas. So they went three. Three out

1417
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: of the first four picks.

1418
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: Were weapons, so they had so they got Lagette was

1419
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: thirty two overall via via Buffalo.

1420
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: Is what it says via Buffalo.

1421
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 3: Round one pick thirty two, Round two, pick forty six

1422
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 3: was from the Rams. Round three was their own pick.

1423
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 3: Round four was their own pick. Round five was their

1424
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 3: own pick. Round six was their own pick. Round seven

1425
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 3: was from Pittsburgh.

1426
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: There you go, that's what says here. Yeah, there's there's

1427
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: not a lot of path there. No, No, no, not

1428
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: at all. Not great.

1429
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 4: Is Hassan Redick going to actually play for the Jets

1430
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty.

1431
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 3: It doesn't need to.

1432
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 2: It's fine. We don't need it. I don't need these

1433
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 2: teams getting better. No, we had enough fun to deal

1434
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 2: with man. Absolutely brutal this side of it. Really good crop,

1435
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 2: really good crop of defensive ends in the game at

1436
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 2: the moment. Still a bit later, we will get to

1437
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: the top fifty television shows of all time. This could

1438
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 2: be potentially be a little higher lower, better or worse

1439
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 2: could be in play here as well, So we'll get

1440
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: to that. You listen to Cleveland brod Daily, brought to

1441
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: you by ballet Bet Sports, being partner your Cleveland Browns

1442
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1443
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by ballely Bet Now

1444
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1445
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in Cleveland Bron's Daily, eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland.

1446
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: You have. This was Monday into Tuesday was the anniversary

1447
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: of the decision, and we were talking about the USA

1448
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: Olympic stuff and all of the stuff and the Lebron

1449
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 2: was voted the best player at the US Olympic Trials

1450
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 2: this year. By the way, the best on the select

1451
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: team was a seventeen year old kid out of Maine

1452
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 2: named Cooper Flag. Yeah, that kid's going to play in

1453
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: too nasty. A dude, really a dude. Brock and I

1454
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: we were talking about it yesterday, and my kids have

1455
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: told me about him when he was a eighth grader,

1456
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: freshman or whatever. Dude, you got to see this guy.

1457
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 2: Been hearing this guy's name forever. So he's an early entry,

1458
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: like he should be a senior in high school. He

1459
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 2: graduated early to go to DUC a year year early.

1460
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 2: So he's been great. But I've seen that we were

1461
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: talking about having like twenty years of Lebron and I'm

1462
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: curious your thoughts on this. So I made the case

1463
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 2: of when he I read actually a tweet that I

1464
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: found that I wrote on the eve of the decision,

1465
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: the night of the decision, and I said, I just

1466
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: don't see any way that he would ever leave Cleveland

1467
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,799
Speaker 2: this publicly that he would, This would be the biggest

1468
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: heal turned in the history of professional sports if he

1469
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: were to break up.

1470
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 3: With his with that team on you had that, correctly,

1471
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 3: he did not.

1472
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: That's my point. So then he he spent the whole

1473
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: next year kind of learning from that. He was very

1474
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 2: naive learning from it, and then he started finding ways

1475
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 2: to make amends for it. Even the next year, like

1476
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 2: his tone changed and he was a little bit more

1477
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 2: comfortable and he came home, I'm coming home, all of that,

1478
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 2: and then it's then it's fine, you went a title,

1479
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.

1480
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 3: I would say he even the first year in Miami,

1481
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 3: that first finals against the Mavericks, he was kind of

1482
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 3: a wallflower in that series in the sense.

1483
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: That JJ Brea was guarding him and he wouldn't post

1484
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 2: him up.

1485
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 3: But he he But then I think he kind of

1486
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 3: for a few a little bit when they got hot,

1487
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 3: he embraced being the heel.

1488
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: Yes, when they were the next year. Yeah, the next

1489
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 2: year he was like okay, because I remember he had

1490
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 2: that ad the next summer he had the ad of

1491
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 2: like him driving around Cleveland and like the we are

1492
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: witness thing coming down and all of that, and he's like,

1493
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: you want to hate me? You want to do this? Fine?

1494
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: He kind of leaned into it, yes that year, and

1495
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: then he took off and then they were pretty much

1496
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: unstoppable those two years.

1497
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 3: And who can make some free throws then.

1498
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: Could have been better for someone who's been around in

1499
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 2: the public light for so long. I was shocked at

1500
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 2: how poorly he managed this brawny thing. Or do you

1501
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: think he just doesn't care it's got to be the latter.

1502
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 2: He he had to know.

1503
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 3: Of course he knows the look of it, and he's

1504
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 3: got so much power. And now with you know, with

1505
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 3: Rich Paul's power and all, you know, you're basically hearing

1506
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 3: that on the night of the draft, that you know,

1507
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 3: Rich Paul's calling, everyone said, don't draft this guy.

1508
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: He will not. Don't worry. We're not right, we aren't. No,

1509
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 2: you're saying rich.

1510
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 3: But I mean, I thought it was unbelievable drama that

1511
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 3: you know, you thought maybe somebody in the first round

1512
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: would do it and try to either extort the Lakers for.

1513
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 2: Because clearly they're willing to give them. They would have.

1514
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 3: I feel like you could have traded drafted him and

1515
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 3: traded him to the Lakers.

1516
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: So do you really think that the conversation went that

1517
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 2: the Lakers are so rudderless the most decorated important franchise

1518
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 2: in the history, I mean the Celtics.

1519
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 3: I don't think they are less. I think the rudder

1520
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 3: is Lebron James.

1521
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So I agree with you that they are that

1522
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: from an ownership standpoint, they are so rudderless that they

1523
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 2: were just at his beck and call on all of this.

1524
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: If that is the case. That is a stunning thing,

1525
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: and I think it is the case. Nothing else makes

1526
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 2: sense case. And I do wonder like if Kobe were

1527
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 2: still alive, like would that have impacted how they've handled

1528
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: all of this because I don't think that he would

1529
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: have his presence in that city and around that organization.

1530
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: I don't think think he would have allowed for the

1531
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: Lakers to be just handed over to Lebron. I don't.

1532
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 3: I would say, not only Kobe, but even you can

1533
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 3: take it up. If Jerry West was still, for example.

1534
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: And Magic pushed in the chips on it, he's out.

1535
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you had some of those people,

1536
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 3: then perhaps it would be a different a different scenario.

1537
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 3: But it's a in some ways that's part of what

1538
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: you know, it's become a star driven league. And what

1539
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 3: would the Lakers be if he left?

1540
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 2: What are they with him? Well, at least they have

1541
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: him and they won.

1542
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 3: They won, they can say they won a championship.

1543
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not gonna anytime soon and there's no

1544
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 2: way to improve going forward.

1545
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 3: I think the thing that's.

1546
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 2: The most stunning thing to me is nobody wanted to

1547
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: play there. Nobody wanted they had room, they were trying

1548
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,839
Speaker 2: to convince Clay. They were trying to convince people nobody.

1549
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 2: They all were no dice.

1550
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 3: There's got to be something around Antonio Davis or Anthony Davis, Lebron.

1551
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 2: You think it's Lebron.

1552
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like, but he if Lebron, Lebron

1553
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 3: has maintained his greatness. I feel like if Anthony Davis

1554
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 3: was as good as he was or the trajectory was,

1555
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 3: and they would still.

1556
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: Be pretty good. They can't shoot it. All they have

1557
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 2: is that Reeve's guy who can shoot it. They they can't.

1558
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 3: That's that's the NBA you need. Yeah, you need those

1559
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 3: two guys surrounded by shooters. He'll be quite formidable.

1560
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't have that. So there's no real

1561
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 2: path for it. And I made the case like I

1562
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 2: think the kid would have been better off. I think

1563
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: this is I cannot imagine this working out in terms

1564
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: of him becoming a very reasonable NBA player, and I

1565
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: don't think he has the talent for that. And there's

1566
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 2: no shame in it. He's a really good high school

1567
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: basketball player. I remember talking to Chris Holtman about this

1568
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 2: because it was Ohio State and USC were the two

1569
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: schools and he called me and he said, do you

1570
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 2: think we could You think like Columbus could handle it

1571
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 2: if we brought him on campus. And I said, yeah,

1572
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: I think so. And I think actually he would probably

1573
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 2: benefit from not being the most famous person on campus.

1574
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: He wouldn't have been not down there, he wouldn't have

1575
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 2: been the most important. He would have been able to

1576
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: have relative anonymity. And Holvid did say, he said, you know,

1577
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 2: like Lebron and I'm blanking on the way, Savannah, Savannah,

1578
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: that they were really just like normal parents, Like they

1579
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 2: weren't overbearing, they weren't like this is what we demand.

1580
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: Lebron's like, you're gonna coach him, I'm not flying in

1581
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 2: for games, like I'm not gonna call you like we

1582
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 2: want him to have a real college experience. And I

1583
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 2: think he would have benefited from that. I do. In

1584
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: the meantime, you get eight million bucks. He's to play

1585
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 2: for the Lakers, So I guess it wins either way.

1586
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 3: Of course he wins. But what's hard is it's a

1587
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 3: tough position for him to be in. As wonderful as

1588
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 3: it is, I just think it's a tough position. There's

1589
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 3: these are grown, grown men at some point right in

1590
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 3: the in the NBA and in the locker room. I

1591
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: just can't imagine you're even these guys aren't gonna want

1592
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 3: him to practice with them, because if he's on your

1593
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 3: team in practice, he is for sure gonna be the

1594
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 3: worst guy in their operation.

1595
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.

1596
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 3: And you're gonna have guys going to the geet getting

1597
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 3: sent down to the G League who are fighting for

1598
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 3: their you know, livelihood and careers who are.

1599
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: Better than him.

1600
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 3: And that's not gonna sit well because it is complete nepotism,

1601
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 3: and it's it's hard. Now, It's not just because you

1602
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 3: have you know, half of the great genetics. That doesn't

1603
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 3: mean you're gonna be great.

1604
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 2: What does it say when people say, well, there's it

1605
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,919
Speaker 2: nepotism in ownership, there's nepotism in coaching staffs, in front offices,

1606
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 2: Like what's the difference here?

1607
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 3: That's not a public athletic competition, that is more.

1608
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 2: You just don't see it. Yeah, but the incompetence can

1609
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: be there, totally, wildly, totally, wildly incompetent, and in many

1610
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 2: instance it's probably not certainly not deserving of the job

1611
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: and certainly not the best for the job. But they

1612
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: get it. It's just not played out publicly as much. No,

1613
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 2: And hell, it happened in the Lakers when Jimmy Buss

1614
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: was running it. And I don't know if it's a

1615
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: whole lot better with Genie, but Jimmy ran into the ground.

1616
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 3: It's of course no, because we can see somebody. Yeah,

1617
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 3: you can see it physically. You say this, I doesn't belong. Yeah,

1618
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 3: I mean in some ways, I feel like he being

1619
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 3: out there is going to look like what some of

1620
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 3: us in our minds think, Oh man, this is what

1621
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 3: it'd be like if we were all of a sudden

1622
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 3: thrust into an NBA game.

1623
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. He was a very good

1624
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: high school player. He was a very I think he

1625
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 2: could have been had a very nice college career and

1626
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: probably turned into a nice player, But not this and

1627
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: so like, and now you're on the same bus with

1628
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: your dad, the same planes as your dad, the same

1629
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 2: hotels as your dad. It's crazy. And they can't send

1630
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: him to the G League. So when's he gonna play. Never,

1631
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: He's just gonna train. Yeah, it's tough, tough. I just

1632
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: thought he would have I thought he would have learned

1633
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 2: from the previous thing.

1634
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 3: You learn when you have a great fallout or you

1635
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 3: have great consequences. I mean, yes, so he wasn't as

1636
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 3: like as he wanted to be for a year. He

1637
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,759
Speaker 3: embraced that. He came back, got a hero's welcome from everybody,

1638
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 3: but Gibbe, you know what I mean. So there really

1639
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 3: weren't any concert What did he have?

1640
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: What? What did he have to learn? He's still He's

1641
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 2: still won.

1642
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: Surefire, He's won championships with three different franchises.

1643
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: He is.

1644
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 3: Always going to be in the conversation for the greatest

1645
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 3: player of all time. So he's managed to avoid scandals

1646
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 3: that have made other greats.

1647
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: I would say, like the only thing he did was

1648
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 2: choose to break up with the Cleveland Cavaliers publicly and

1649
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: misjudge how that would be judged. That's it. Everything else

1650
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 2: he's crushed. Yeah, No, he's crushed. Yeah, all right. Coming

1651
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: up next, Top fifty television shows. Ever, how many of

1652
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: these haven't we seen? I'm curious what a good number?

1653
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 3: And there's a few that I've never.

1654
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 2: Even heard of. All right, we'll get into that. Coming

1655
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 2: up next. Let's st to Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you

1656
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 2: by Ballet Bets sportspinning part near Cleveland Browns Now live

1657
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: in Ohio. Want eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1658
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bed Now

1659
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland.

1660
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 2: And be sure to check out the brown social media

1661
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: channels daily to play the Browns Digital Scratch Off game

1662
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 2: for your chance to win club seats and other great prizes,

1663
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 2: presented by the Ohio Lottery, the official lottery of your

1664
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Time for a little higher, lower better words.

1665
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: It's presented by Keep It from Ohio from the Ohio Lottery,

1666
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 2: offering easy ways to keep gambling fun. Hello, gibbet, gentlemen.

1667
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 2: Good to have you both back. It's good today and tomorrow.

1668
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: There you go there safe. We have two more. There's

1669
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:48,520
Speaker 2: only two more Victory Friday shows. Dude, I'll it's more

1670
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 2: crazy like it's.

1671
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 3: We need eleven twelve wins every year, baby, for no

1672
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 3: other reason.

1673
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: Right, I've got a lot of great feedback on it. Yeah,

1674
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,759
Speaker 2: like for real, I'm not, Yeah, people.

1675
01:17:59,720 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 5: I was.

1676
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: I was enjoying it two fridays ago on my way

1677
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: up to Chicago. We we had it on and it

1678
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 2: was It's great. It was it's it's really cool. It's

1679
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: fun to hear that play by play and relive all

1680
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 2: of it, so that that's been really good. You do

1681
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 2: a good job with that given Yeah, great job.

1682
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I obviously got in a lot of it's been

1683
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 3: It's a rare win win as a true win win. Yep,

1684
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 3: everybody's winning. You gotta get double figures every year. Are

1685
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 3: we playing this music? Because I mean, unless I'm blind,

1686
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 3: I don't think it's on the list, which is.

1687
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 2: TV show music. We got this. It's great TV show music,

1688
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 2: and perhaps that's where we start.

1689
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 3: I mean, the list to me is mull and void immediately.

1690
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 4: So this is the top fifty TV shows ever from

1691
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 4: VB rankings that combine the ratings from IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic,

1692
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 4: et cetera. Animation and documentaries excluded from the list. But

1693
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 4: the docu menories thing doesn't make any sense because Band

1694
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 4: of Brothers is in this.

1695
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 2: As I said, dramatization. Yeah, I guess here's what I

1696
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 2: would say, like, well, I think it's insane that Curb

1697
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 2: Your Enthusiasm is not on this list. This is about

1698
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 2: a comprehensive way of determining the top fifty thing as

1699
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 2: you can find when you have eight different metrics or

1700
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 2: ten different metrics that you weigh. Yeah. So, I mean,

1701
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 2: I can't have beef with how they came about it,

1702
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 2: even if I have beef with that not being on here.

1703
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 3: Where's Curb? How could Curb not have ratings of this level?

1704
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1705
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 4: The show's not ranked or Curb. Some of the notables Ozark, Entourage,

1706
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 4: that's appropriate, right, walking Dead, Cheers, and yellow Stone.

1707
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 3: Ozark doesn't?

1708
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 2: No, no, I said Entourage. I think Curb obviously should be

1709
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 2: on this list. I think Ozark, yes, it's right on

1710
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 2: the cusp of being on this list. Entourage sucks. Walking Dead.

1711
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 2: The first two seasons of Walking Dead are amazing, and

1712
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 2: then it's it just got like it's relentless. How many

1713
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 2: how many times? Okay, they're coming back? Can we ever

1714
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 2: just get out? Can we ever just find the water

1715
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 2: and get out? Or are we always gonna be these things?

1716
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: Ghouls?

1717
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it just got to be too much.

1718
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm surprised. Cheers is a tough one, because it's just

1719
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 2: it should be on this list. If this is top

1720
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 2: fifty shows of all time, it should be on this list.

1721
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 2: It was that influential, was that popular. So it looked

1722
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 2: to me like this looks like the top best television

1723
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: shows of like the last forty years. What it seems

1724
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 2: like to me or thirty five years, is like there's

1725
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 2: no Cheers, no Mash, there's no Mash, there's no like

1726
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 2: people sometimes talk. There were some of those dramas that happened,

1727
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 2: like Dallas or whatever. There were these huge phenomenon and

1728
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 2: they're not on this list.

1729
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 3: Gotta be because the oldest show on here at least

1730
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 3: Seinfeld Seinfeld, Twilight's one fifty nine.

1731
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I don't know. Then that doesn't make sense.

1732
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: Cheers should be on it. Yellowstone, It's high points are

1733
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 2: really good, but I don't think it should be not

1734
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 2: gonna finish, Yeah, and I don't think it should be

1735
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: on this list either.

1736
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 3: Sounds of Anarchy is not on the list.

1737
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 2: Correct. That's another one where if it ends after four

1738
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: or five seasons, it's it's a lock. But it just

1739
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: went too long. Problem with Yellowston is, I mean there

1740
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: are times on that show, while it's fun to watch

1741
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: and the scener is great, where they just abandon storylines.

1742
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but just so just forget that that happened.

1743
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: We're on to the next Yeah, all right.

1744
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 4: So number one on Higher Lower this week and the

1745
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 4: number one TV show of all time, Breaking Bad according

1746
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 4: to all of the ratings.

1747
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: Where are you at? Higher? Lower or just right? Well lower,

1748
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: just right? Here's why I am where I am on

1749
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: Breaking Bad. I've never watched it. Really, Oh, I feel

1750
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 2: like I need you should watch. Put it at the top.

1751
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: Put these things to watch for sure. It's if I

1752
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: can tell you that it is. This is how I

1753
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: feel about Breaking Bad. I think it's the best thing

1754
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 2: that I've ever seen that I don't ever need to

1755
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 2: see again. Is that I would agree with that. It's

1756
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 2: not like the Sopranos. You can I watched it once, yep,

1757
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 2: I did it. It was. It was stunning in the moment, stunning,

1758
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: and I can acknowledge its greatness. But I don't ever

1759
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 2: fail the need to like the Wire, the Sopranos or

1760
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 2: dead Wood or something where I pop back in and

1761
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 2: watching it. I have no interest in it.

1762
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 3: And it spawned Better Call Saul, right, So it spawned

1763
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 3: two of the top seven.

1764
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 2: Yes, because they have Better Call Saul seven, I would

1765
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 2: not have Breaking Bad number one. I think, I think

1766
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 2: I would have The Sopranos number one, but I think

1767
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: The Sopranos has some weak spots in it where I

1768
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: don't think the Wire does. The Wire last season is

1769
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 2: a little tricky. Those are those would be the ones

1770
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: that I would be uying between, and Thrones would be

1771
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 2: right there, right there, three or four episodes really so,

1772
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 2: according to are breaking.

1773
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 3: Bad end of the last episode, Game.

1774
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 2: Of Thrones is number two. Sure, Noble was number three.

1775
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 3: Which is crazy to me. I watched It's a fantastic show.

1776
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 3: It's awesome, but it's not number three.

1777
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: Bleak.

1778
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 4: It is like, yeah, five, Band of Brothers, sixth, The Wire, seven,

1779
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 4: better called Saul, eight, Stranger Things, that's nine.

1780
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: Sure.

1781
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 3: The kids are getting at the age where they would

1782
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: pretty close.

1783
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 2: NBC probably NBC. Sherlock's really good would be terrified, don't you?

1784
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: No, No BMZ too.

1785
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 3: Peaky Blinders is I never see I've never even heard

1786
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 3: of Sherlock.

1787
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:33,919
Speaker 2: Uh it's Benedict Cumberbatch as Sherlock. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty good.

1788
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 2: I watched it when Netflix first popped. It was on Netflix.

1789
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: I didn't watch all of it, but I watch a

1790
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 2: few episodes of it. Peaky, Peaky Blinders is awesome. That's

1791
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 2: a lot of fun is overrated. I tried to watch

1792
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,600
Speaker 2: that twice. Take No, I don't. I'd be honest with you, like,

1793
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 2: I have a hard time understanding how anything is better

1794
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 2: ever than Band of Brothers. It's fifth on this list. Yeah,

1795
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 2: Band of Brothers is perfect. It's tens episodes. There isn't

1796
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: a miss on any of it. I mean there's not

1797
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: one miss No, like I can say there's miss it

1798
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: like Thrones, Bad Sopranos, wire misses. There's no miss on

1799
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 2: Band of Brothers. But it's only one season and it's

1800
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: working off of source material that's real, that it's real.

1801
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 2: So if you took.

1802
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 3: I think the apples to apples would be if you

1803
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 3: took the ten best episodes of Game of Thrones, because

1804
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 3: there's only ten episodes of.

1805
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: Band You know that with Game of Thrones, and it's

1806
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: numer number.

1807
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 3: One, the ten best episodes of the Game of Thrones

1808
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 3: number one.

1809
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, you could probably even go as far

1810
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: as twenty and you find yeah, because there was a

1811
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 2: time when every episode was like yeah, really, yeah, this

1812
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 2: what we're doing, Like yeah, good. I don't think anything

1813
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 2: truly in culture, do you just think like pop culture

1814
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: things has been as big of a phenomenon and as

1815
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 2: universally beloved and then evaporated with the way they ended

1816
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: it like that did, like it is not. People don't

1817
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: talk about rewatching it. People. I think House of Dragon's

1818
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 2: helped a little bit, but I don't hear anybody saying, oh, yeah,

1819
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 2: you gotta go watch Thrones anymore. Like people still talk

1820
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 2: about relating Sopranos and Wire and all that stuff. People

1821
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: still talk about that stuff. The way Thrones ended it

1822
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 2: just ended it. Just crazy how they blew that because

1823
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 2: it was pitch perfect. I've never heard of Dark. I

1824
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 2: don't have any point of reference on Dark Fleabag. I

1825
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 2: haven't heard of that either. One that won some awards.

1826
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 2: I've seen a couple of seasons of Fargo. I did

1827
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 2: not watch House Friends is too high? Friends higher than

1828
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 2: Seinfeld's a joke.

1829
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 3: I really liked twenty one through twenty four, Mad Men,

1830
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 3: Narco's mind Hunter, Mister Robot.

1831
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 2: The Office before Michael Scott Leaves is pretty close to perfect. Yep,

1832
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: Succession is damn close to perfect from start to finish.

1833
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 3: My dad loved Battlestar GALACTICUF that matters.

1834
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: I never saw that one geeks good, mad Yeah, you're right,

1835
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: mad men Narcos. I didn't see mind Hunter, is that good? Yeah?

1836
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: Mine Hunder, I didn't see.

1837
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 3: Mister interview in uh serial Killers right, it's Netflix.

1838
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's good. Seinfeld at thirty, that's ridiculous.

1839
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 3: Outrighteous, that's absolutely behind the boys. Seinfeld's not even ahead

1840
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,919
Speaker 3: of I mean, it's always sunning. Philadelphia is great and beloved.

1841
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 3: But it feels to me like Sciences should be the

1842
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 3: top comedy for sure.

1843
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 2: And I think you could. I would be. I think

1844
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: the appropriate would be Seinfeld because of it just was

1845
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 2: a different needle to thread twenty some episodes. You had

1846
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 2: to do it for network television. You couldn't just do

1847
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 2: it when he had an idea, like every year, you

1848
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: had to come up with it. Yeah, Like it was

1849
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:41,799
Speaker 2: just a totally different thing to try to navigate. Lost

1850
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 2: is great. I'm watching that with the oldest right now.

1851
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 2: That's that is awesome. Yeah. Lost is awesome, and I

1852
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 2: forgot a lot of it, Like I watched the first two.

1853
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 2: We're watching it. We're watching it again. Did they Yeah?

1854
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 2: They like it?

1855
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 3: Bryce was into it.

1856
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, NBC's locked. Like every night we'll watch

1857
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: one episode before he goes to bed, because are only

1858
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 2: forty five minutes. Yeah, so he will go around God

1859
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 2: bless him and like lock all the doors in the

1860
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 2: house and like lock in and then he's like, I

1861
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: think I see a red light dead and I'm like, yeah,

1862
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: you're fine. I don't think you do. I think we're fine. Yeah,

1863
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 2: but yeah, It's lost is awesome. Yeah, but that one

1864
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: got They just got a lot too. I mean they

1865
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: had a lot of episodes dead Woods unbelievable.

1866
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 3: Did you ever watch the Last of Us? Last of

1867
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 3: Us Pedro Pascal, the girl who answers the call from

1868
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones, little Lady Mormont.

1869
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 2: Oh she's in that. No, I did not. No, I

1870
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 2: did see some episodes of that. They did one season, right,

1871
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: one season, so yeah, yeah, I did see a couple

1872
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: episodes that. Yeah, amazing. Yeah, it was good. Yeah.

1873
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 3: I gave that to Doctor Voos on one of our

1874
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 3: road trips and he like, oh, yeah, hammered and he

1875
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 3: loved that one.

1876
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Bear, I've not seen the most recent episode,

1877
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 2: but Bordwalk Empires slept On. It's really good for if

1878
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 2: you like history.

1879
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 3: And this season of the Bear is tough, is it not?

1880
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: Good.

1881
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 3: It's it is good. It's just it's stressful.

1882
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 2: It's tough. Well, that show always is.

1883
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 3: I never go up with it, and there's usually it's

1884
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 3: really good. There's at least one or two of those

1885
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 3: a season. It's so hard not I think Boardwalk Empires

1886
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 3: good if you like Mandalori Lost That Mayor of East

1887
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 3: Town was a great show, but I'm like shocked that

1888
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 3: it made top fifty.

1889
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 2: True Detective season one is incredible, but then the rest

1890
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 2: of them kind of suck. Right. The Americans and Justified

1891
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 2: are awesome on FX awesome and Justified it's awesome. Both

1892
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: those are. Where is that guy? Though?

1893
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 3: I feel like that guy never really the main guy

1894
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 3: from the Americans.

1895
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 2: He did a uh, I'll come up with it. So

1896
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 2: much more to come. You listened to Cleveland Browns Aily

1897
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 2: on eight fifty ESPN.

1898
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Ballely bed

1899
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1900
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 2: All Right, there you go. You're not seeing breaking bad.

1901
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 2: You gotta get on it.

1902
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 1: Huh.

1903
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 2: It's it's so well done.

1904
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 3: The races you got to get The first season maybe

1905
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 3: a little slow.

1906
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 2: It is because they have a writers strike, yep, and

1907
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 2: so you got to you got to kind of get

1908
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 2: through that and then it's a race track from that

1909
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 2: point on. Walter White. Walter White, Yeah, yeah, it's appropriate.

1910
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it's fine. It's again, I'd never since I

1911
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 2: watched it the first time, I've never thought i'd like

1912
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 2: to go rewatch any of it. But it was in

1913
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 2: the moment, it was. It was very, very good. But

1914
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 2: you and I were talking in the break, like so

1915
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 2: much of the stuff Amy and I watched when the

1916
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 2: boys were little, because we put them to bed at

1917
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 2: eight o'clock. She's a zok. You know, you get four

1918
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 2: three kids. At one point we had four to two

1919
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 2: and newborn, and so it was like, what could you do?

1920
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: You watch a show and go to bed. That was it.

1921
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 2: So so much of this stuff I saw during that time.

1922
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: It's harder now to watch that stuff than it used

1923
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: to be. But pretty good. It's a good list. I

1924
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 2: think it's crazy Curves not on there, and it's crazy

1925
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 2: Seinfield's not higher than Seinfild should be the number one comedy,

1926
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 2: I think agreed, how that should go? All right, we'll

1927
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 2: be back, We'll do this all again tomorrow. My friend

1928
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. I am too, buddy. We're just

1929
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 2: two days now, three days out tomorrow, Wille, two days

1930
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 2: out from the event of the summer.

1931
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 3: I W absolution, seventeen baby, fifteen bucks, Get some tickets.

1932
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go. Next levels coming up next. Cleveland

1933
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:16,919
Speaker 2: brown Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1934
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

1935
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,480
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland