1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Motherfucking Mini Your Soul MANI episode motherfucking Mini Your sel. 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Little Mamas in Gentiles Alike. 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 3: The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 3: of black conspiracy theories and. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: We finally worked to prove the conspiracies of you. So listener, 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: it's a motherfucking mini episode. 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got an email. 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: We got an email. 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: From a person who did they ask us to say 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: their name? 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: Yes? 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, Chris. Chris sent us an email and and 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: it's a provocative subject line, one that I don't think 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: we've ever discussed this specific person together on the podcast, 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: So this is exciting. And I also have never heard 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: the additional information attached to this, but I'm very excited. 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: The subject line said Barney hill abduction was a government 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 3: operation due to his involvement with civil rights. Do you go, 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: let's go. Yeah, that's that's hot shit right off the I. 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: Who is going to give me context clue? Okay? Fuck? 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I was curious about, is okay? He says, Hello, 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: Langston and David, apologies. I am indeed yet another white 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: devil who listens to your show. That's okay, Chris, especially 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: if you're coming with hot shit. As a fan of 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: both of your both your comedic work previously, I've been 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: listening as a proud little mama since day one. That's 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: fucking awesome. I also apologies again, American. Another white dude 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: apologizes again America. Another white dude who is fascinated by 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: conspiracies in that capacity. I've several times chrome across the 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: theory that hell Barney Hill abduction. It's referring to the 32 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: Hill abduction refers to both Barney Hill and his wife, 33 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: whose name I don't remember, but they were both Betty. 34 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: They were apparently the first abduction in America. And it 35 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: is worth noting that Barney was a black man, Betty 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 3: was a white white woman, and the Hill abduction was 37 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 3: a part of the government operation that targeted Barney Hill 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: due to his involvement in civil rights. Weird psyops were 39 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: a thing in the Alphabet agencies at the time, MK 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: Ultra Operation, Midnight Climax, etc. As was fucking with people 41 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: involved in civil rights, and I've heard the argument that 42 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: it was a test run for future abductions, covering up 43 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: nefarius anti organizational activities. Or whatever. Anyway, would be curious 44 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts on it if it's of any 45 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: interest to you. Love the Pascagoula UFO episode and the 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: Bobby Hmmett episode funny and smartest fuck. Please keep up 47 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: the excellent work, Chris. 48 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: See Now, I don't want to like you, Chris, but 49 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: I filter it through my brain. You're a big fan. 50 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: You seem to be very respectable. You came with a 51 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: good idea. Now I'm back to neutral. That's all. That's 52 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: all you gotta do. Yah. Also noted Betty and Barney Hill. 53 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: I just wanted said, black man, white wife, black dog. 54 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: What does that do for you? 55 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: What? 56 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: What is that provide? And as it relates to their family. 57 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Maybe she wanted a white one and he was like, no, no, no, no, 58 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: because in the in the picture, if you look at 59 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: the Wikipedia, she's holding the dog. 60 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: Now she's holding that dog proud, no basis, but that 61 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: dog's that was a little I take a little Wiener dog. 62 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: She picked that dog. 63 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: My man, you don't have a dog. Huh. 64 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: I don't have a dog, but I ain't never seen 65 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: no black man in the fucking fifties. Uh, pick a 66 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 3: Wiener dog, Hey. 67 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: My girl's got a black poodle. All kinds of attention 68 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: on the street. It's terrible. Yeah, every time I go out, 69 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: some guy wants to be like, oh, mirror right now. 70 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: You just gotta stand in the back slimming your knuckle 71 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: into your fist. 72 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: No, I wish it was that. I end up being nice, 73 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: And it's always people I don't. It's like old white 74 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 2: women like, oh, it's just slowing up your day. It's yeah, 75 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: And it's people like, it's never people I want to 76 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: talk to. Nobody who's going to stop to talk about 77 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: your dog is probably somebody you want to talk to. 78 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, not in a sincere way. If you're like, Yo, 79 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 3: how old what's your dog's name? How old is your dog? 80 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: That's one thing, but like it's more in passing. It 81 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 3: shouldn't be like, oh, what are your feeder? Yeah, that's 82 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: a nightmare that I will say. And I do blame 83 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: some of it just on LA culture, but uh, there 84 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: is a tendency with dog owners, specifically in LA, to 85 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: presume that I have any interest in their dog. And 86 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: that feels very specific two and I could be wrong, 87 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: but like they'll be walking their dog and I'm just 88 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: walking and they'll be like, he likes you, and it's. 89 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: Like, oh, that ship does not happen to me. 90 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't give a fuck. 91 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: Now this is I wonder this, this might be a 92 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: color thing. I could see that that's never happened to 93 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: me once in life. 94 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 95 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 2: People. In fact, I've actively seen people dislike it if they're. 96 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: Dog likes whoa. 97 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: Also I've seen a lot more of a dog not 98 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: liking me random on the street, which Maggie May told me. 99 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: Shout out to Maggie May also dark skinned. She told 100 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: me it's because the dog the owner sees you and 101 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: they they kind of tense up, and the dog feels 102 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: the tension on the leash. 103 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been told that any and we talked about 104 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: this on a previous episode that very often any racism 105 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: coming from the dog is a reflection of the person's subconscious. 106 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: Dogs be happy at me. 107 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're real. They're real, in tune with our emotional 108 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: states in a way that even we aren't fully in 109 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: control of, and like can fully be like, oh you 110 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: don't like him. 111 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: All right? 112 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: Cool? Yeah I don't like him either, fucking. 113 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly that. 114 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: And then they make associations. They're like, he looks like 115 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: the thing we don't like. So but people put. 116 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: That shit on dogs. I used to know this guy 117 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: with this big scary pit bull bull, bad guy, bad guy, 118 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: and he would always say that his pit bull would 119 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: like disrespect the weakest person in the room, and it 120 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: did it a lot, and I always kind of thought 121 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: it was it was usually like the smallest person or 122 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: like if it was somebody's little brother there or something 123 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: like that. I was, I think that you're just a 124 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: bad guy and the dog's a bad guy. 125 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the dogs just bullying them the way 126 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: that you instinctually want to bully them. 127 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: Right, But he would he would live by that ship. 128 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. The dog's name was Elijah, which is a 129 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: drug dealer dog's name. Like, where do you even get that? 130 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: That's cocaine and Elijah? I get you the name man. 131 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: It was named after the income source I used to 132 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: purchase him and my favorite character in the Vible. 133 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: I love the Lord and I love selling that white 134 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: What do you want from me? 135 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: Okay? But anyways, this is this is great. 136 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: This is a really fascinating theory, So I think it's 137 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: worth and maybe, Okay, this is what we should do. 138 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: We should take a break, but when we come back, 139 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: I actually think we should talk a little bit about 140 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: the details of Betty and Barney Hill's abduction because it 141 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: might help us to remember exactly how our friends theory 142 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: might connect to everything that's happening. So we're gonna take 143 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: a break. We'll be back with more. 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We are discussing their potential conspiracy abduction. 167 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: We should recap a little bit of what happened with 168 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: Betty and Barney Hill. 169 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 170 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: Betty and Barney Hill, a mixed race couple in a 171 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: racial couple in nineteen sixty one, goes for a drive 172 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 3: back from Montreal and Niagara Falls into New Hampshire where 173 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: they see basically a UFO overhead or in the distance. 174 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: You you know, more recently than I do. 175 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So they saw it. They were looking at it 176 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: in their binoculars. They had to they had to pull 177 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: over to walk the dog. He had his pistol on him. 178 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: So they went to go look at it, and then 179 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: from what I understand, they just sort of blacked out, right. 180 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: They they black out for like three hours. It's some 181 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: long ass period of time where they completely black out 182 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: and then wake up back at their homes. If I'm 183 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: not mistaken, they or do they just wake up where 184 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: they were on the road. 185 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 2: They woke up and kept driving. 186 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: Okay, so they I think they woke up where they 187 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 3: were on the road. 188 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they had some odd sensations when they woke 189 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: up in pulses they couldn't explain. Betty insisted that the 190 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: luggage that they said. She said that their luggage needed 191 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: to be kept near the back door. That doesn't make sense. 192 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: Their watches would never work again. Barney said the leather 193 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: strap for the binoculars that he had was torn that 194 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: we could not recall it retearing. The toes of his 195 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: best dress hues were scraped. This is very important. Barney 196 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: says he was compelled to examine the genitals in the bathroom, 197 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: though he found nothing unusual. 198 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: Man the check take them on. 199 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: Look, make sure my dick straight? Then on you got 200 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: a reverse engineer the subduction clook. 201 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: Look, yes, were we abducted? Absolutely? Were some of our 202 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: things permanently ruined? But are we okay? 203 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: Yes? Here's my shit straight? 204 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: Is my pp where it's supposed to be. 205 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: Also, probably a good way to get some sex you 206 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: were gonna get like, hey, we got to figure this 207 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: out right now. 208 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: Maybe let's make sure my dicks still work. Yeah. 209 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, She said that her shoes were kind of at 210 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: her there was a pink zipper or there was a 211 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: pink powder on her dress, scared shiny concentric circles on 212 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: their car's trunk that had not been there the previous day. 213 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: When he put a compass next, when they put a 214 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: compass next to the circles, when they moved it closer, 215 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: the needle would whirl rapidly. And that's pretty much all. 216 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 3: That's a lot of stuff. And that's a lot of stuff. 217 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: And I will say, at the original sort of reading 218 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 3: of a lot of what happened to them, I certainly 219 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: and remain open to the possibility that aliens could have 220 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: done something to them. I don't feel fully like, hell no, absolutely, 221 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: there's no way that aliens were involved in this. That said, 222 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: the introduction, the introduction of this new conspiracy theory, none 223 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: of the things you just listed feel out of the 224 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: realm of possibility from like man fucking with them more 225 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: than aliens fucking with them. 226 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: Right, Because I think it should be noticed that they 227 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: were that they seem to be somewhat of community leaders 228 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: active in the NAACP. He was also a member of 229 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: oh Yeah, he sat on a local board of the 230 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: United States Commission on Civil Rights, so they were actively 231 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 2: within that community. 232 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: And they're an interracial couple in nineteen sixty one, which 233 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: I think objectively sort of puts you in a position 234 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: of civil rights activists on its own. You know what 235 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: I mean, motherfuckers do not like what you're doing. And 236 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: you're out driving around, y'all are being crazy, you know 237 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: what I mean, as far as your political stance being 238 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: out loud kind of thing. 239 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: Right, And I think also it's worth noting that these 240 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: were not crackpots. They were not. They seem to be 241 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: pretty fairly upstanding members of their community, you know what 242 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: I mean. Like sometimes when it's like, oh, sometimes abduction 243 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: stories are by kind of less than believable characters, and 244 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: this is like, these people seem to be pretty straightforward. 245 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: And here's what really sells it for me is that 246 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: they're coming back from Canada when it happens, which means 247 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: that if you are the government in nineteen sixty one, 248 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: what better way to track their movements than by them 249 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: having to show identification over a border, you know what 250 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: I mean, Like you can you can just wait for 251 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: when they return and follow them and trick them, you 252 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: know what I mean, like whatever it was, whatever it was, 253 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: Whereas like I think, if they're more localized, it might 254 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: even be harder to track their movements or to plan 255 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: this sort of grand scale abduction. And boy, oh boy, 256 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: I bet they stopped talking about like civil rights after 257 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: they got abducted, right fish to cry, I bet you 258 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: ain't stressing about which table you get to sit at 259 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: after you've been abducted. Like I'm not leaving the house ever. Again, 260 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck if that's a white's only restaurant. 261 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: Exactly. Now, we got to talk about these aliens. If anything, 262 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: though you would think it would, it would unify them. 263 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: They also a very specific accouncil. 264 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: What they saw, Yeah, that is worth noting. 265 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: But what they saw also, to your point, doesn't seem 266 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: like he was out of the realm of some man 267 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: made shit. 268 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: Which I think is the more important thing. Is like 269 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: you fucking with somebody's compass and making this so their 270 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: watch doesn't work anymore. Is like that's some shit that, 271 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: like I believe a government building could figure out. 272 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: And I think that's what they're capable of figuring out. 273 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: Because even when they saw the stuff they saw said 274 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: they were humanoid. They were wearing what looked like shiny 275 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: outfits with hats and shit. And it's like that already 276 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: to me, because one thing I think is like humanoid 277 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: aliens being humanoid, it doesn't even make that much sense. 278 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: For we're not even our our form, our. 279 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: Bodies isn't even the best adapted to this planet, no, 280 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: let alone another one. Yeah, and you know what I'm saying, 281 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: So for them to look like us feels already kind 282 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: I've always felt that about, like, why would you assume 283 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: they look like this? That doesn't make any sense. 284 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: And and furthermore, even if they do look like us, 285 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: they're not us in like size and scale and shit. 286 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: Like the fact that that you would be like, oh, 287 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: look like a human would a head on it. It's like, well, 288 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: then that's that's a government official, my man, and he's 289 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: he's fucking with you. 290 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: But that's bad. 291 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, they fed up, and. 292 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: They're coming for you and your little black dome. 293 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: Me a white wife if they have to. She wasn't 294 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: part of the original plan, but yeah, we'll beat the 295 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: shit out of her too. 296 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 297 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: I think they tried to reprogramm her and she was 298 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: like I'm not going back. 299 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: Me give up that sweet Barney healed it. No thanks, 300 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 3: you can kill me now, miss officer. 301 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: Man, especially because the shit still. 302 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: Workedse Barney shit work. 303 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's also like, but this would be like 304 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: what a great way for the government to discredit some 305 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: seemingly fairly serious people, especially back then like that in 306 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: the sixties. Yeah, yeah, you're a nut job. Nobody you 307 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: know what I mean? How do you? How do you? 308 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: How would anybody take that seriously? 309 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: I do think that that probably is the most frustrating 310 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 3: thing that the government deals with now, is like they 311 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: are probably better equipped for like practical effects a generation 312 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: that could be fooled by like some bright headlights and 313 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: a man in a silver suit than they are for 314 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 3: the generations that now exist of people that are skeptical 315 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 3: of literally everything that deny even like our most legitimate 316 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: videos and claims and everything. They can't manipulate us the 317 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: same way that they used to, and so that's where 318 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: they're failing. Where they're like, we don't understand how to 319 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: be the government anymore. 320 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: Exactly like now, somebody would call it off as a 321 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: what's the term of syop or whatever somebody would call 322 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: that out immediately. Back then, it was like, no, these 323 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: are crazy people. 324 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you you would just believe it and tell 325 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: your entire community that this is what happened to you. 326 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you I would tell my daughter you see, 327 00:18:51,160 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: see what happens. Yeah, but you remember because of Betty, Yes, 328 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: you like dating black guys too. It was all funny 329 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: games at the jazz concert. 330 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: And that what I call her Banana's Betty. That's right. 331 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: It works in two ways, you see, because she's crazy 332 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: and she likes monkeys. 333 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: So with all that, all that being said, I personally 334 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: I think this is I think this is a reasonable 335 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: I do. 336 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 3: I think this feels very reasonable. I do think more 337 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: than ever before, I now at least feel And this 338 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: also explains why fuck with Barney and Betty Hill? Do 339 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like they they're like these 340 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: sort of nobody people in the middle of nowhere. Why 341 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: do they become the target of the thing. And it's like, oh, 342 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: because they represent a type of change at this era 343 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: that like we can fix quickly with just a little 344 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: bit of you know, technology. 345 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: And not to be like reductive of them in the 346 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: Lives Day letter or whatever, but it does feel like 347 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: that was the major thing about them, you know what 348 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: I mean that that was the thing to discredit. They didn't. 349 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 2: They seem to be otherwise than that, pretty normal people. 350 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just fine folks. And but but we 351 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: can we can make you feel uncertain moving forward, and 352 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 3: maybe we can shut down a local chapter or two 353 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: of of some shit we don't like. 354 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: Right, it starts local, guys. It's not just voting. It's 355 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: also dismantling. 356 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: Racial dismantling leadership. 357 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, it all starts in your neighborhood. 358 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: You know, go throw soup at your local and your 359 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: local politicians as much as your your your most national 360 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: ones truly. 361 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, so I'm I I like this, thank you 362 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: white man that I obviously didn't. 363 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: Like, Chris. I think this is a fine conspiracy theory 364 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: and and and you have my support and I'm happy 365 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: to spread this one. This you you've got the you 366 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: got the ma mama told me salute on this one. 367 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: We we really appreciate it. 368 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: We need some kind of a stamp of approval, yeah, 369 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: like kind of some kind of a T shirt to 370 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: send people like believes me your mama was right. Yeah, 371 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: we'll figure that out, man. I mean you paid for it, 372 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: but we will offer it. 373 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: It's like it's like smash your paths for your mama, 374 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: But but this one, do you ever? 375 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: I mean maybe that's a whole other. 376 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: Day smash your pass? 377 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that? Is that? 378 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: The balloons? I see a lot of the balloons. Now, 379 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 3: are you seeing those? 380 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 2: No? I'm talking about the one where it will just 381 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 2: be like sometimes it's like a rapper and then all 382 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: these girls come up to him or just like a 383 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: girl and she goes down the line. Oh those, Yeah, 384 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: it's similar. So what would you put yourself through that? 385 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 2: These I don't know why the funny looking dudes to it. 386 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: What did you think was gonna happen? 387 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty insane. 388 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: The balloon. 389 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 3: That's the balloons one that I'm talking about. 390 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 5: Oh so the Smasher Pass, I feel like started with 391 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 5: when they were like we're gonna get Quavo, we gonna 392 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 5: get NBA, young boy, We're gonna get like cool fucking people. 393 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 3: And then now it's devolved into people making these weird 394 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: dating game shows where they hand a bunch of like 395 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: single people balloons that they like pop as soon as 396 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: they don't want to fuck the person standing in front 397 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: of them, and there's just all these viral videos of 398 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: like Ghules, literal like Ghules being rejected by like rows 399 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: of beautiful women, and it's like, well, come on, man, 400 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 3: don't go on the show. 401 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 2: Isn't it? Isn't it funny? How how advanced we get 402 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: socially and shit, our entertainment still ends up just evolving 403 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: into freak shows. 404 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: It's just it's the only thing we want. 405 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: It's just a weird one, one that looks different than 406 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 2: all the other ones. 407 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 3: I just don't want to see how he's gonna get 408 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: out of this pickle. 409 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: Or whatever. 410 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see what happens with him. 411 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see him get rejected by the 412 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: hot one. 413 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: This is it's poison. It's truly one of the most 414 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: poisonous things I've come across on the Internet. And I 415 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 3: get so many of those videos now me too. 416 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: I never get the positive ones. But you remember that 417 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: video that was just like you would get it in 418 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: your DMS and it was like, hey, black man, somebody 419 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: said this to you because they believe in you. Betrandas 420 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 2: two days I didn't send it forward. 421 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 3: I did not, of course not, And and George Floyd 422 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: had to die in front of all of us for 423 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: us to even do that for each other. 424 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 425 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 3: We had to literally watch this man be sacrifice for 426 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: us to be like black man, I don't want you did? 427 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I did not watch the whole video. No, 428 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 4: I'm not watching that, you know what. I watched the 429 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 4: whole video of that doing on that being mad at 430 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 4: that hot lady. What's the whole I watched it a 431 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 4: couple of times. 432 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 3: It's bad, man, It's fucking bad anyway, Chris, Chris, You're 433 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 3: not bad, and maybe that's maybe that's okay. Maybe maybe 434 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: you're all that matters here, White white devil, Chris, Uh, 435 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: we did it? 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