1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to our Giants Draft reaction show, presented by Christron 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: John Schmelk, once again joined by Mike compatriots Paul Tatino 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: and Sean O'Hara. We're gonna take your calls here, guys 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: at two A one nine three, nine four five one three. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna go for one hour. That's what the league allows. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: The Giants are six picks away, though the Ravens pick 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: is in. I think the league's a little behind here. 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: I think there are about to at least two picks 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: behind in terms of picks being in and them announcing 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: the selections. 11 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: So commercial considerations gotta pay those sponsors. 12 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Well, you also hope they have a lot of like 13 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: people coming up and they're doing emotional presentations and such, 14 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: so that's taking up. 15 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: Some extra time. 16 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: So we're probably i'd say around twenty minutes or so 17 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: away from the Giants selection. I say, give or take. 18 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: We'll have that selection for you here. We'll tell you 19 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: who the Giants take, we will react to it. Will 20 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Bob Papa join us after the pick and then we 21 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: will take your calls, and we want to get him 22 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: before the pick too, to tell us who you think 23 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: the Giants should pick. We can do that as well 24 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: at two to one nine three, nine four five one three. 25 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: All right, so we haven't had that many big surprises 26 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: here in round number two. I'll go through a couple 27 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: of them. I'm not gonna list all the picks because 28 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're tracking this on your own, folks. Mike 29 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: Green is still on the board, the edge rusher from Marshall, 30 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: who has some off the field legal issues from the past. 31 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: But I had a you know, I think he's a 32 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: first round type player in terms of talent, but he's 33 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: still on the board. Tyler Shook went to the Saints 34 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Shardoor Sander's still on the board. Aaranta Urseri went. A 35 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: couple running backs are off the board. Travion Henderson and 36 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: Quinn Shawn Jenkins, Luther Burden, Jaden Higgins, Jack Besh, Trey 37 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Harris off the board at wide receiver, defensive tackle just 38 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: Tyler Williams and t J. 39 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: Sanders. 40 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: No one else off the board yet at that spot. 41 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: Will Johnson and Benjamin Morrison, the two banged up cornerbacks, 42 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: they are off the board at that position. No safeties 43 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: have gone off the board yet today, and those are 44 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: and three tight ends I should have mentioned Elijah Royo, 45 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: Mason Taylor, and Terrence Ferguson are off the board at 46 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: that spot. Offensive line, Ozzie Trappolo off the board, Jona 47 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: seven Ia off the board, he's a guard, Tate Rattlers 48 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: just got taken. And Anthony Belton, the offensive tackle of 49 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: MENSI State is off the borderlowth ariante Urseri. So those 50 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: are the major guys that are off the board. Let's 51 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: kind of start here with you first, Paul, what are 52 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: some of the spots and players that you're keeping an 53 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: eye on? The are heading in to pick number sixty five. Remember, 54 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: the Giants only have one selection today. They selected abdul 55 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Quater third over. But then you just picked ninety nine 56 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: and thirty four. Tim, We'll have to pick twenty five 57 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: to select Jackson Dart. So, Paul, who are you looking 58 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: at here for the Giants loan pick on day three 59 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: at pick number sixty five? 60 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: In what positions? 61 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: Well? 62 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: I think the positions for me would be a defensive tackle, 63 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: It would also be offensive line, and it would also 64 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: be running back. Those would be the three spots that 65 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: I would be looking for the best player available and 66 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: see how high the value is I'll give you one 67 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: guide each position. John, how about we do Yeah, let's 68 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: do that. Joshua Farmer, Florida State defensive tackle. I think 69 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: there's a legit shot he might be there at sixty five. 70 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: I think Alexander's going to be gone before that, so 71 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to go former. 72 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: I'll see there's not that many picks left in A 73 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: defensive tackle has not gone since pick thirty three when 74 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: Alfred Collins went. Him and TJ Standards are the two 75 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: defensive tackles off the bit. 76 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 5: It is interesting. I was a rush on edge rushers, 77 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 5: but not really the interior g Yeah. 78 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would be looking at Scatabo if from 79 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: Arizona State, Cameron Scatibo, if he could get there at 80 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: sixty five again, I'd be surprised, but hey, you never know. 81 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: That would be very exciting for me. And then on 82 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: the offensive line, Marcus Mabou out of Purdue is probably 83 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: the guy right now who I think could potentially be 84 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: at sixty five. And he's got some swing guard tackle versatility, 85 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: and I think he would be a guy that might 86 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: be interested for me there. 87 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: All right, I'll give you one name in each position. 88 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Two and then Sewan you can kind of give what 89 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: positions you're keeping an eye on here. You don't have 90 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: to give names. You can just give spots if you want. 91 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: I'll give one offensive line. I think Whitt Millan would 92 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: be the next best guy on the board for me. 93 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: He played tackle college. Think he's more of a guard 94 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but he's a good player. He's a 95 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: guy that I think you can consider at guard. At 96 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: a running back, you mentioned Cam Scattabow, I'll bring up 97 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson and Damian Martinez and Dylan Sampson. 98 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: Those are my next three running backs. 99 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: I think they're all a little bit different, to be 100 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: totally honest with you, in terms of play style, and 101 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: I think they're all good players. 102 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: And then the other position you have was defensive tackle. 103 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: You mentioned Darius Alexander Schamar Turner is the other guy 104 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: a throw out there, a defensive tackle who's very talented. 105 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that I would look at 106 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: here if you're looking for more of an upfield guy, 107 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: if you're looking for more of a plugger type, I 108 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 1: think you're looking at the CJ. West Jordan Phillips group 109 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: for the next plugger type. Or if you like Jamari 110 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: called loll a lot. The defensive tackle of Oregon was 111 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: a big man. He's a large fellow. That's another guy 112 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: you can look at that spot. If you look at 113 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. My man Jalen Knowles still on the board, Baby, 114 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of his. If he's still around, 115 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: I'd be tempted to take a look at him. Sean, 116 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: what are your big needs year and things you're focusing 117 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: on for the Giants? 118 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 5: Well, let's start off where you ended with the receiver. Noel. 119 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 5: He's a burner, right. I think he ran like a 120 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 5: four to three yep, so he's got some wheels five 121 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 5: to ten, two hundred pounds. So I definitely think the 122 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 5: Giants look the offensively, we need points like so we 123 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 5: need some offensive firepower. Yes, Jackson Tart, Jackson Dart was 124 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: a great draft pick for us last night, but he's 125 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 5: probably not going to see the field in the first 126 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 5: half of the season if things go you know, as 127 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 5: well as everybody hopes they do. But I definitely think receiver, 128 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 5: you need some youngers guys. You need somebody to pair 129 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 5: with Milaigue neighbors, and anytime you have a guy with 130 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 5: that kind of world class speed. You'll find a way 131 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 5: to get him out on the field, to find a 132 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 5: way to get him involved in the offense. I think 133 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 5: the other guy that I was looking at, Kyle Williams, 134 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 5: is still out there. I like Besh, we were talking 135 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 5: about best before, but he just went. Kyle Williams is 136 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 5: a guy that's out there as well Washington State. He 137 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 5: is part of that air raid offense. That could be 138 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 5: another possible fit. I think the running back thing, we 139 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 5: we all talked about it earlier. I think the Giants 140 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 5: would like to add another running back, and Caleb Johnson 141 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 5: from Iowa still out there. You know. I think he's 142 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 5: a pretty physical guy, physical runner, so that that could 143 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 5: be a good fit. I'm never gonna say no to 144 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 5: no old lignment. You guys mentioned offensive line. I've already 145 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 5: thrown it out a couple of times into cav Hero 146 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 5: over there. I'm like, hey, Wow, we gotta got a 147 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: guy to get after the quarterback. We got a quarterback. 148 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 5: How about somebody to protect the quarterback. 149 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Your guy Tate Rallige and Pearson's guy Tate Rallige both 150 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: off the point though. The the the mullet stash combination 151 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: is no longer a potential selection here. 152 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Tate's down. And you know what Tate had. 153 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 5: I mean physical dude. He's a self proclaimed dirt bag, 154 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 5: so right out of the gate, I love him. But he 155 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 5: was a little banged up as well. 156 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: I think he was actually an extra on Eastbounding Down? 157 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 5: Was he really. 158 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: Won't? I never actually watched Span Down. I just known, 159 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: you know, I never actually did watch it. 160 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 5: I think that's something you should keep yourself. You just 161 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 5: you just aired yourself out. 162 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: I have a lot of spelling. I have many shows 163 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: that I want to. 164 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 5: Watch three things at once. 165 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: How is that possible? 166 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 6: Though? 167 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: I haven't. 168 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 5: You're you're a multitasking you can find time. 169 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: The problem is that actually like to focus in on 170 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: like a show. So if I'm gonna like do one thing. 171 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: That's what. 172 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 5: It's great. And it's great. 173 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: I heard it's a funny show. 174 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: It is a good show. 175 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: He annoys me a little bit, though, the actor what's 176 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: his name? Yeah, he's a little annoying anyway, bride. 177 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's still not in the whole conditioning thing into. 178 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: The whole condition all right, back to test any idea 179 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: what we're talking about. 180 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: No, I love that he didn't even you haven't watched it, Paul. 181 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 5: It's not even on his hemisphere. 182 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: No, it is not all right, they canceled blue Blood. 183 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 5: That's all I need a loan blue Bloods. Wow, you're 184 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: watching TV with my dad. 185 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: I was literally about to say, if it's not on 186 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: CBS at nine, not o'clock, Paul's not watching it. He 187 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: literally named the show that's not CBS a clock. 188 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 5: That's awesome, blue Bloods. Blue Blood is a great show. Anyway, 189 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: what were we talking about, Toms Tom Selleck. Is he 190 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 5: available for the draft? 191 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: Oh dude? 192 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So I have to give the last two picks here, 193 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: because of course, the Baltimore Ravens picked the last guy 194 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: with the first round grade on by board and Mike Green, 195 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: and you know, he's gonna go to Baltimore. He's not 196 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: gonna get into any trouble. He's gonna be a saint 197 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: and he's not gonna have any issues. And he's gonna 198 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: have like eighteen sacks of the Ravens because that's what 199 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: happens with players the Ravens draft. 200 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: And then my guy, yeah you are j Harvey. 201 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: I had a second round grade on him and no 202 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: one else really did and I thought I was out 203 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: on a limb, and then the Broncos gonna pick him 204 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: at sixty. He is fast, he's elusive, He's a lot 205 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: of fun. Sean Payne is gonna have have a ton 206 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: of fun with r J. 207 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: Harvey. 208 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: What do they do with Alvin Kamara for all those years? 209 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: Well, that's what they're gonna do with r J. Harvey. Yeah, man, 210 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: that is a good pick. 211 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: Oh that annoys me just because that's such a good fit. 212 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: And I wish anyway, go ahead. 213 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: I forgot what we were. 214 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 5: Talking about off as line. Yeah, we got distracted by 215 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 5: that was Miles Frasier was another guy that's out there. 216 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 2: I like Fraser, but I think for the next round. 217 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 5: You know, I think the interesting thing with the Giants 218 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: is they need a guard and I think they also 219 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 5: need to tackle. So but you're only gonna probably take one, 220 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 5: you know, I don't know if they can draft one 221 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 5: of each. So do you get a guy that played 222 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 5: tackle and can also play guard or a guy that 223 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 5: played guard and can also swing out play tackle. 224 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: Hey, Gary Clark announced in the pick for the Command 225 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: there's excellent wide receiver from the eighties and nineties. 226 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: You can make argument He should be in the Hall 227 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: of Fame, by the way, if you look at the stats. 228 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: But I mean that whole receiving crew, right, Gary Clark. 229 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: ARBONGK TJ. 230 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: S not t J. 231 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: Sanders. What was the first name of the Rickey Sanders? 232 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: Like Sanders. That's a good pick, a good pick for 233 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: the Commanders. 234 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: That is a good pick. I thought he was an 235 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: early second round guy. That's a good get for them 236 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: right there. 237 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: All right, So that's sixty one. 238 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: So we're we are three picks away close. 239 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 5: Jalen Knowle still available. Caleb Johnson is still available. 240 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: Cam Scattabo is still available. 241 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 5: You know there was a run on tight ends there 242 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 5: too for a little bit. I'll tell you. I think 243 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 5: if we could have got one of those tight ends too, 244 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 5: that would that would be that's good for the offense. 245 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Harold Fannon stole on the board, but I'm not 246 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: sure if that would be where the Giants would go 247 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: here he is, he is a good move tight end. 248 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: I think right now, of all the players we talked about, 249 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: Darius Alexander, Jalen Knowle, and Caleb Johnson would be the 250 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: guys that I have the highest on my board that 251 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: are left. 252 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: So I think those are interesting guys to talk about. 253 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 3: We'll you take your calls. 254 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to getting guys before 255 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: the Giants their pick, you can do that at two 256 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: one nine three nine four five one three two one 257 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: nine three nine four five one three. And I'm showing 258 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: no something you wanted to say, unless Paul, you have 259 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: something else on the guys left? 260 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: No, okay, I saw you shuffling your paper. You are 261 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: right now. 262 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: I'm just shuffling to go somewhere. 263 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 5: I'm sure there's some callers out there. I want them to, 264 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: you know, we should, you know, maybe take another quarterback. Right, 265 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 5: everybody's still talking about shador. 266 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: I think the better question is that if I made 267 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: an every day your shuffling reference of Paul and now 268 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: where that came from, I would say probably not that 269 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: is from like fifteen years ago now, but I think 270 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: it had to be for thirty five years ago. 271 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right. And then anything no nothing, no idea, 272 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: no idea. 273 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: Okay, it was worth the shot, all right, Sean, You 274 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: on how to point you on to make about the 275 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: giants two draft picks yesterday that you had a bit 276 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: of a revelation on driving home last night and the 277 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: wee hours of the evening that that that you wanted 278 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: to say today. 279 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if it's a revelation, but just 280 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 5: there was this feeling of euphoria that as I was 281 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 5: driving home last night and I was just kind of 282 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 5: channeling the Giants fans that were in Met Life last 283 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 5: night and as they were driving home from Met Life, 284 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 5: I was just thinking about how many times I've driven 285 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 5: home that same drive in the last couple of years, 286 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 5: just kind of scratching my head, like where we headed, 287 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 5: what's going on? Like a lot more questions than answered. 288 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 5: And last night, for the first time in a long time, 289 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 5: driving home, I started thinking about Giants fans, and I'm thinking, 290 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 5: you know what, Like they are so giddy right now, 291 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 5: like getting Jackson Dark, getting Abdua Carter, a player on 292 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 5: each side of the ball that could completely change the 293 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 5: trajectory of this franchise for the next five to ten years. 294 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 5: Like that's got to be something that's resonating with every 295 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 5: Giants fan. When you woke up this morning, when you 296 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 5: were driving home last night, you're talking to your friends. 297 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure you guys are all getting text messages. 298 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 5: I can remember the last time that the Giants as 299 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 5: a franchise had this much good happened to them in 300 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 5: one night. And I think look as a as a 301 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 5: former NFL player, I never looked at draft picks like, man, 302 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 5: they're going to come in and save us, or they're 303 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 5: going to come in and now we're going to win 304 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 5: Super Bowl because of this guy we was just drafted by. 305 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: The way at Dual Carter. 306 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: Maybe, but let's not put a cape on Jackson Dart, 307 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: who's going to not even as Brian Dable said it yesterday, 308 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: is not even going to start right away. 309 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 5: Absolutely. I think that's where it's kind of like, all right, 310 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 5: I'm saying this because this is I'm extrapolating it over 311 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 5: the next few years. Correct, that's fair projecting it as 312 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 5: to what this could look like this franchise in the 313 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 5: next three to four years. 314 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: If it works out as they envisioned it, and we. 315 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: Could very well look back and say, wow, you know 316 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 5: what that for that night, The fact that they were 317 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 5: able to get ad Duel Carter and get back into 318 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 5: the first round and get Jackson Dark completely altered the 319 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: direction of the franchise. And I think that's huge, and 320 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 5: I think That's what the draft is all about. It's 321 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 5: all about the potential of changing your team, the potential 322 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 5: of assembling some stud players. And I think the thing 323 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 5: about Jackson Dart and Adual Carter, not just their talent, 324 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 5: not just their performance on the field, their production on 325 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 5: the field, that the quality of guys that they got. 326 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 5: I think these two guys they care about football first 327 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 5: and foremost. 328 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: I agree with that. 329 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 5: They're not looking to be celebrity. They don't want to 330 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 5: be on page six. They're not coming here because their 331 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 5: social media and their brand and they're trying to grow. 332 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 5: They're coming here and they're all business. They can't wait 333 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: to get to work. Anybody that talked to Abdul Carter 334 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 5: throughout that process knows that he's all business, and you 335 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 5: know he I think he thinks a lot of what 336 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 5: he can bring to the table. He already asked for 337 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 5: Lawrence Taylor's number, which. 338 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. 339 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 5: I don't know he tongue. 340 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: I don't think he asked for it. 341 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 5: I think he's I think he said, I have other 342 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 5: ideas and fifty six is come to mind because it's 343 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 5: a great number. I don't think he he legitimately asked 344 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: for but he said fifty six. 345 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: Are you trying to turn Paul against the giants? Start overall? 346 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: Pick is the minute you mentioned someone at LT in 347 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: the same Tentince, Paul gets very old. 348 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 5: Well know, Paul would be upset if he asked for 349 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 5: Pepper John's you know. 350 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: Well, to be honest with you, earlier today when he 351 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: was asked about that his media session, handled that very well, 352 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: He handled it extremely well, and. 353 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: Well he well, I think he saw you in a 354 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: three point stance off the side of the stage. 355 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: Ready to charge up there. If he didn't answer it properly, 356 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: He's not. 357 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: I can't see there's any way that anybody is getting 358 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: fifty six. 359 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: No, and I don't think he's getting eleven either way. 360 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 5: So yeah, but just to put a bow on that 361 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 5: whole conversation, the draft is all about hope. 362 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: You know, it's about hope. You took the way I 363 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: was gonna say. The draft is about this is. 364 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 5: About hope for your franchise. And you know what, like, Okay, 365 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 5: we got some guys that you know what we can 366 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: we can get back into that. We're heading the right direction. 367 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: And look, Joe Shane has has been a pinata, you know, 368 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 5: for Giants fans for the last couple of years, and 369 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 5: as a general manager, like he knows it. He's like, 370 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 5: look that that that's part of the job is to 371 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 5: look when things aren't going well, you're going to take 372 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 5: the heat and take the blame. But I think you've 373 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 5: also got to give him credit when he does a 374 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 5: good job. And last year's draft unbelievable production. And now 375 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 5: when you see what he just did in one night, 376 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 5: I think it was I think it gave a lot 377 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: of hope and I think that there are a lot 378 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 5: of positives that came out of that. So now they 379 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 5: got to go out and perform. But I thought that 380 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 5: that was this This could be a big shift for 381 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 5: the franchise and for and for the fans. 382 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, and I think this is even 383 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: more of a reason for you know, a lot of 384 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: Giant fans have been in the. 385 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: Ohank for the draft pick mode. 386 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: This is even bigger reason now to try to, you know, 387 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: really hope this team wins a lot of games this year. 388 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: You know, because if this is a quarterback that Brian 389 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: Dable wanted to develop, you want to keep that connection together, right, 390 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: And I think you get that by having significant improvement 391 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: and have them winning a lot of football games. So 392 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: I think it makes its perspective during off asive coordinator 393 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: Danielle Jones. So just go back to all these Sam 394 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: Darnold or Gino Smith. Go to all these high drafted 395 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that's taking a while to develop or they've never developed. 396 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: It's because there's a lot of instability earlier in their career, 397 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: so it's important to try to keep that stable moving forward. 398 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: No, I think you know the fact that he's coming here, 399 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: and by the way, Jackson Dort himself was extremely professional 400 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: and well composed when he addressed the news media. 401 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: And we had the press conference. 402 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: To say, the reason I didn't bring it up, Paul 403 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: because both guys were so solid and didn't say anything 404 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: that I thought was worth noting. 405 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: I just didn't think there was much to talk about there, to. 406 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: Be honest with, They both handled themselves as professional. They 407 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 2: were great, and quite honestly, I didn't expect anything else, 408 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: because you know, we met Darrett at the combine John 409 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: and he passed all the tests with flying colors in 410 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: terms of his personality, his presence, his smarts. 411 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 412 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: I even talked to him in a really smooth. 413 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: I talked to him in a small scrum at the 414 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and he was the same deal right after 415 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: a practice, right, And sometimes the guys are a little 416 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: bit more don't have their guard up as much right 417 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: on the field after a practice because they're not thinking 418 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: about all, right, here's. 419 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: What I'm gonna say, I'm gonna meant to compare for that, 420 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: you kind of just get them. 421 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: And both him and Tyler Schuck for that matter, both 422 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: those guys were very put together on the practice field 423 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. We've had two defensive tackles, by 424 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: the way golf the board here, which is a significant 425 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: for the Giants. Omar Norman Lot from Tennessee. He goes 426 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: off the board to the Chiefs, but you put him 427 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: next to Chris Jones on that's at and then the 428 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: pick before that the Bears who need some pass rush, 429 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: they get Shamar Turner, defensive tackle out of Texas A 430 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: and M. 431 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: So if you wanted a. 432 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: Three technique pass rusher type, and that's what those guys 433 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: are really, Darius Alexander is really your last guy left 434 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: that I have with a relatively high grade on them. 435 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: So if you want to plug her there stole some guys, 436 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: but you're you're running low on three techs d that 437 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: in mind. 438 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he. 439 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: I think he would be the one guy that's left. 440 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: And the thing about Alexander, he looks like a really 441 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: good player. He was really good at the Senior Bowl. 442 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: But he's a five year player. He's almost twenty five 443 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 1: years old, and he didn't have a lot of production 444 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: playing in the macket Toledo. So that's something that I 445 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: think raises a red flag for some people. But he 446 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: was really good against Power five guys at the Senior Bowl. 447 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: They couldn't really block him up front, so I think 448 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: you take that into consideration as well. All Right, I 449 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: see a couple of calls, So the Giants are now 450 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: two picks away. The Eagles are up. Their pick is in, 451 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: which means the Giants pick is probably in two. But 452 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: the TV continues to be the network is behind where 453 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: the picks are. So we'll try to squeeze in a 454 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: couple of picks here before a couple of calls, rather 455 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: before we get to the pick. Let's go to Peter 456 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: down in the Florida Keys. Peter, you're up here on 457 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: the Giants Draft Reaction Show. Presented by Crush Drown in 458 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: the Hack and Sack Meritney Health Podcast Studio. Keep getting better, 459 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: stop laughing and me Peterson, what's going on? 460 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: Peter? I got it right this time, Peter. What's up? 461 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 7: Hey? How's it going on? 462 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: We're good? 463 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 7: Hey, you thank you so much for doing this. I 464 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 7: didn't even know you guys are still on. So I 465 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 7: just randomly called the number I memorized, and I was like, oh. 466 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: Wow, Oh, we've been on for fifty hours straight. 467 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: Actually, well, Paul has in his own head, we've actually slept. 468 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: Sorry, did you say you have the number memorized? 469 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: Is a regular course not just in. 470 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 5: Your cell phone? Why you just pressed the you just 471 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 5: press it right? Are you actually having to press the 472 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 5: numbers on you? 473 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 7: I memorize it all right? 474 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, you're on a road, David. 475 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 5: You're not on a landline? 476 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 7: No, no, no dial up? You know I'm using the 477 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 7: modem stuff. I'm just kidding. 478 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, kids don't know, kids don't know what. 479 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: Blow my ears out? All right? 480 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 7: Here? 481 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: What do you got on the draft? What do you got? 482 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 7: Two quick things? Who are you guys really hoping for that? 483 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 7: We picked the next couple I have in the in 484 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 7: the two picks. I'm actually looking for Samson or nol 485 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 7: Those are my two hope that we could scoop up 486 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 7: the running back or a wide receiver. 487 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: I'd be happy with either one of those guys. 488 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: I think Darius Alexander has to be in the conversation 489 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: here too. I think Caleb Johnson and camp Scattabow I 490 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: think they're both also very very good players. So I 491 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: think any of that group i'd be I'd be pretty 492 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: happy with Paul. 493 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: I feel it's got to be the trenches or power 494 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: running back. I cannot take a wide receiver here. 495 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 5: You like, you like Dylan Sampson running back from Tennessee. 496 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 5: You know there's some There's some tackles out there too. 497 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 5: I mean we were talking before about you know, I 498 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 5: mean Marcus Imbel from purduees out there, Charles Grant is 499 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 5: out there, Dylan Fairchild from he's the other guard from Georgia. Yeah, 500 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I think I think if you get a 501 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 5: guard or a tackle here in the third round, I mean, 502 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 5: that could potentially be a guy that could end up 503 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 5: starting for you for the next four or five years. 504 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 5: I think that could be solid too. 505 00:21:59,320 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 7: That'd be awesome. 506 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: Hey, look. 507 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 7: About the first round. 508 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I will say this, you know, I appreciate it, Peter, 509 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: and thanks a lot for the call. Look, I think 510 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson for me, you know, I have a pure 511 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: round two grade. He's the only defensive tackle left with 512 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: a pure round two grade, in fact only they have 513 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: two other guys with you know, end of round two 514 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: grades on them. So that's the guy that to me, 515 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: that's sticking at like a sore thumb in terms of 516 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: depth at a position of need. For me, I still 517 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: think there's a bunch of wide receivers that are really 518 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: good that are on the board, and a bunch of 519 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: running backs. So that's where I would lea Paul Darius 520 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: Alexander for me at least. 521 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think there's any doubt, you know, 522 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: there's still quality at the positions the giants are thin at. 523 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: And I mentioned my guys before, you know, Farmer, I 524 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 2: mentioned Scatterbow, I mentioned Mabell. There are guys who you 525 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 2: can get right now who are going to compete and 526 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: push people on your depth chart. And that's the important 527 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: thing because remember, especially now, I mean what we're talking, 528 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: we're talking the start of the third round. You need 529 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: somebody who's going to push. Okay, it's not just like, oh, 530 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: can he make the roster. No, the guy's got to 531 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: be able to push. He's got to be able to compete. 532 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: If you're taking him at the start of the third round, well, 533 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: that's the key. 534 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: The Eagles just replaced Chauncey Gardner Johnson with another underside safety. Yeah, 535 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: this guy's a missile. He's a lot of fun to watch. 536 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: Andrew mccooby. He's just under two hundred pounds. He makes 537 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: plays on the ball. He's like shot out of a cannon. 538 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: I had a better great on Xavier Wattson than him. 539 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: But he is a really really good player and downhill safety. Yeah, 540 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: but he he has ball production. Man, that guy makes 541 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: plays on the football. 542 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: That's that. That's not gonna be fun going up against him. 543 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 5: No, so let me get this trade. The NFL's number 544 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 5: one rank defense last year just added the linebacker to 545 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 5: Campbell and mccooglet mkoogle. So we need some offensive fire 546 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 5: party here. Consider it all what we're just talking about 547 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 5: with Philly, Like we need some we need some offensive. 548 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: Talent here, all right, giants are up here, guys, And 549 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: again I think mccooby is a good there. The three 550 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: highest guys on my board just in terms of ranking 551 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: are savonn Ravel. I really like him as a corner, 552 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: but he's hurt and the Giants don't even need a corner, 553 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: so I'll push him aside right two spots away from him. 554 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: And actually I have Jaalin Nolan, Darius Alexander touching their 555 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: players forty one and forty two for me, Noel's at 556 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: forty one and Darius Alexander is at forty two, so 557 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: I'd be more than happy with you again at one 558 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: of those two guys. And again, I just think defensive 559 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: tackles more of a need here guy, So I'm gonna 560 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: go out on a limit. I'm gonna take a guest and 561 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: say it's Darius Alexander. 562 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: And that it'd be a really good pick. Again, Farmer 563 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: is a little bit of a different style of guy, 564 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: but if you want defensive tackle with him, Alexander is 565 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: a really good pick too. 566 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 3: Jason Seahorn is going to be announcing to pick for 567 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 3: the Giants today. 568 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 5: Nice. 569 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 3: I don't know that's sending a message. They've had a 570 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 3: lot of the guys actually at the same position as 571 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: the picks. 572 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if you know they've announced these 573 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: guys a long time ago, but now, yeah, they brought 574 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: out it looks like service members from each one of 575 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: the services out there. 576 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: Roger Goodell shaking some hands. 577 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was It was pretty cool. The Rams did 578 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 5: their draft picks from the the LA Fire Department. 579 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: Where we were, and this is the end of the 580 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: second round, since the Giants did the first pick and 581 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: round three, that's probably why they're doing this. 582 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you have all the services here. 583 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to see what the Space Force uniform look 584 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: like because usually they do bring out someone from the 585 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: Space Force now, because they are one of the services. 586 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: I think that might have been the uniform at the end. 587 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: I couldn't tell. They didn't give me a good watch shot. 588 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: By the way, did you like that story about the 589 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: Giants two first round picks who wear different face paintings 590 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: to mimic Star Wars characters, Yes, so interesting. 591 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 592 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: Abdul quarter with the Darth Vader on the EyeBlack because 593 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: I guess he spent a lot of time in one 594 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: of those hyper barrack chambers heading into that Bowl game 595 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: against Notre Dame, where he you know had the shoulder injury, 596 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, and obviously Darth Vader gainst submerged, and Dad 597 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: he does in the back to tank to heal with 598 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: all the burns and all that stuff. 599 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 5: And then so was he watching all the movies while 600 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 5: he was in them? 601 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: And maybe he could have been I don't know if 602 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: a lot of time. 603 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: I think he felt like Darth Vader in the hyper 604 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: Battle Chamber probably, and and and then apparently Jackson Dart 605 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: has the one streak of EyeBlack because. 606 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 3: The Annan Skywalker star. 607 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: So I guess we need like a big Yoda fan 608 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: now or maybe a big obi Wan fan something like that. 609 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 5: Let's just hope the force is strong with both of them. 610 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 5: But I think can we. 611 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: And we also hope the force is going to be 612 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 3: strong with the Giants next election. 613 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 5: Like I love it. Okay, that's great that that's there 614 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 5: in their free time there there, you know, I want 615 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 5: to keep it in. But like the last thing that 616 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 5: I want to tell a team and and these fans 617 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 5: like this the minute I get drafted, is like I'm 618 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 5: a treky. 619 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 620 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 3: You would rather be a Star Wars fan than a Trekky? 621 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, but like I like, you know, I mean, 622 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 5: all right, it's it's a little bit out there, but yeah, sure, 623 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 5: I mean I think it works out great. Darth Vader, 624 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 5: you know, the dark side you're on, you're playing, you're 625 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 5: on defense. 626 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: Wasn't gonna bring it up, but Paul culture reference that 627 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: he could relate to, and I think that's where we go. 628 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 2: Remember John Randall with the Vikings, should wore that blue 629 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: a purple deep purple shield inside his shelmet, and he 630 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: looked like somebody from Vader's side of the forest Giants. 631 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 5: I am a big chewy fan. 632 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 3: Here we go. Well, you're an offensive. We've had way 633 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 3: to it, he said. 634 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 5: And that's as far as I'll go with the Star 635 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 5: Wars stove. But I don't think things ended well with 636 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 5: with Anakin, right well, I. 637 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: Mean, hey, he became don If there are kids out 638 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: there listening that haven't seen the movies, I don't want 639 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: to ruin it for him. Soiler from like nineteen eighty 640 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: one and the Giants pick is in It is Darius Alexander. 641 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: Defensive giant on the spot. Occasionally I get. 642 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: One wow, look at that, Thank goodness, snatched somebody in 643 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: the trench that's a nice So let me give you. 644 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the details here on Darius Alexander. Right, 645 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: he's a fat of four wing Indiana. He's gonna turn 646 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: twenty five years old in August, just under six to fourth. 647 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: The combine he measured into six zho three seven. That's 648 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: sixty three and seven eights, three hundred and five pounds 649 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: thirty four inch arm shot. Nice, and that's at the 650 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: combine where they were measuring all the arms shorts, so 651 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: he was probably closer to thirty four and a half. 652 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: He had seven and a half sacks for Toledo last year, 653 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: five and a half the year before, twenty two career sacks. 654 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: He was again in school, he played for five years, 655 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: had a six year that was a red shirt year 656 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: back in twenty nineteen. 657 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: That's why he's a little bit of an older prospect. 658 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: Jump thirty one inches, broad jump over nine foot, so 659 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: pretty good athletic testing numbers as well. 660 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 3: Just a bit of an older prospect, but he is. 661 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: Your long, athletic, knifing upfield type of pass rusher that 662 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: I think will fit very nicely next to Dexter Lawrence Throw, 663 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: Chauncey Golston, into that mix there as well as a 664 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: potential pass rushing three technique with Abdul Carter. Let me 665 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: tell you this, Giants defensive line is young with promise, 666 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: and they're impressive. 667 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: You don't watch on We're looking at a possibility now. 668 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: If you were to put Alexander the three technique spot 669 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: next to Dexter, you could have Golston playing the edge 670 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: as the hold the edge and setting the edge against 671 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: the run as a defensive end. You don't even have 672 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: to move Golston. You could play him next to Alexander 673 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: on the outside edge. 674 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 675 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: I mean, but then you got to take Burns, Thibodeau 676 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: or well Abdul Carter off the field again. 677 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: But if it gives you, it gives you some options, Yes, 678 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: it does, especially if it's going to be against the run, 679 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: because we know that Abdul Carter at the beginning is 680 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: going to be more of a pass rusher than he 681 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: will be on obvious run stopping doubts. I think this 682 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: is this is this is a real healthy pick. Alexander 683 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: has a lot of, as you said, athletic tools in 684 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: his toolbox. He's got a lot of moves and a 685 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: lot of tricks up his sleeve. He can do a 686 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: lot of things to escape and to shed guys, and 687 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: next to Dexter, that's gonna be a real headache for people. 688 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: And again I watched them with the Senior Bowl close up, 689 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: and he just has the body of a defensive lineman 690 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: that looks like is going to be successful in the 691 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: league for a long time. 692 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: Sean, let me ask. 693 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 5: That there were some people that said that he kind 694 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 5: of he had some flashes of Leonard Williams, who the Giants. 695 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 5: I don't think he's jet trade, but in terms of 696 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 5: Leonard Williams was a long armed guy, and like that 697 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 5: was one of the biggest things him coming out of us. 698 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 5: See all of his highlights. He was just ragged on. 699 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: But it was like watching the Three Stooges, I think. 700 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 5: When Curly would hold him back there. But as soon 701 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 5: as you mentioned long arms, like that's one of the 702 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 5: things as an offensive lineman. 703 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you that question. 704 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 5: You would literally you watched me like, dude, this guy's 705 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 5: got go go gadget arms, Like JPP was one of 706 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 5: those guys where it was like you can't like you 707 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 5: just felt like you were waving your hands in the air. 708 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 5: You know, trying to block him. So if you get 709 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 5: a guy with long arms that uses his hands really well, 710 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 5: it's really tough. I mean, it makes life really challenging 711 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 5: as an offensive line when trying to get to that guy. 712 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 5: So you know, it's interesting because they're they're talking about 713 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 5: him he's a penetrator. So you get a guy with 714 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 5: long arms like that, that's that's the penetrator. You know 715 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 5: that that's tough like that, that's that's something that's disrupting 716 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 5: things in the a gap knifing through. And to couple 717 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 5: that with Dexter Lawrence. Look, this defense, it's obvious that 718 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 5: the Giants came out of this past season and said, look, 719 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 5: we've got to get more physical upfront. We've got to 720 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 5: get faster and get more explosive Abduel Carter and now 721 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 5: with Darius Alexander, I think they accomplished that. You know, 722 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 5: I think when you look at the fact that he 723 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 5: went to Toledo, like you said, so maybe he's a 724 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 5: little bit raw, He's still got some things he's got 725 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 5: to learn. I think dra Patterson has got to be 726 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 5: so happy right now. He's grinning ear to ear Sewan 727 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 5: Dre Patterson I've known him back when I was in Cleveland. 728 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 5: He has coached some of the best defensive linemen who 729 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 5: have ever played in his game. And what is Jade 730 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 5: is phenomenal at teaching these guys how to get better 731 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 5: with their hands, the techniques, add some moves to their 732 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 5: to their passwords, repertoire. He's he's a heck of a coach. 733 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for jumping on you. But the one thing 734 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: that and he's told this me that Andre Patterson values 735 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: is length. He likes are long. He talked about that 736 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: with Dexter Lawrence. I was talking to the other day 737 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: Roy Robertson Harris, the other defensive tackle they bought, and 738 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: he's got thirty five inch arms. He was excited about 739 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: him as a player. So you know, he's a guy 740 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: that I think can can play really well. 741 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 5: One of the things I noticed about Brian Burns the 742 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 5: first time I saw him to super long arms. Yep, 743 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 5: Like he can standing straight up. 744 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: All right. So I'm gonna this was my summary on 745 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: Darisa that I was there, and then we're gonna bring 746 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: him Bob Papa here. This is These are my notes 747 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: strong long athletic defensive tackle for from a small school 748 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: that flashed dominos on tape but lacked dominant production. Rod 749 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: Pass Rush relying mostly on length, strength of athleticism with 750 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: potential to grow despite being an older prospect. Very strong 751 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: run defender uses length well to get off of blocks. 752 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: Got it, That's what I saw from watching. 753 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 5: I like your opening line, strong long found to get 754 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 5: the friction on. I think there's a song. 755 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: What is that from? 756 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna sing you guys. 757 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 3: I just try to get you into trouble. I think 758 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: I either stay where you. 759 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 5: Were going with that jo wound to get the friction on. 760 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that stop, please? 761 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: I think it's the who wants to talk about the 762 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: Giant's picking round number three? 763 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: Bob? How you doing, buddy kind. 764 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 8: I'm surprised Sean didn't have thrown a random like nineteen 765 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 8: ninety eight movie reference. 766 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: Oh you missed that? Actually we already did. 767 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, wait, we did the eastbound of Down thing. Smoke's 768 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 5: not a fan. Paul's never heard of it. 769 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 8: Oh, unless it's unless it's Godfather Won Paul hasn't. 770 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 3: Heard of it. 771 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: Well, Paul did take a Star Wars reference, so he 772 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't move from the seventies, just the rog one, Bob. 773 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 8: All Right, Darius Alexander right, defensive tackle John I heard 774 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 8: all the things that you said. I talked to a 775 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 8: bunch of people independently that were down at the senior ball. 776 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 8: They were really intrigued. Obviously he didn't come from a 777 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 8: major program, but I think, you know, you just keep 778 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 8: adding depths on that defensive front, right, I mean you 779 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 8: got Nacho, You've got Roy Robertson Harris. I mean, you're 780 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 8: you're adding all these pieces. You bring some youth into it, because, 781 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 8: let's face it, some of the guys that they've brought 782 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 8: in the last couple of years, I don't know if 783 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 8: they've distinguished themselves. 784 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: So I like it. 785 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 8: I really thought the Giants might go running back here 786 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 8: because of the some of the players that were on 787 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 8: the board. 788 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. 789 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 8: And you know, I really still feel like they got 790 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 8: to upgrade the running back room. I'm sure they can 791 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 8: get one in the fourth round because Gray has been 792 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 8: unimpressive to this point. But uh yeah, I mean I 793 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 8: like to pick. I like the fact that clearly he 794 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 8: must have been the best player on their board because 795 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 8: it's not an area in which you would be drafting 796 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 8: from a need standpoint. Still no old Lineman Shan, which 797 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 8: is kind of interesting. But yeah, I think they're trying 798 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 8: to hold true to their board at this point. 799 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, I mean there's there were definitely a 800 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 5: couple of tackles that I'm sure that they were kind 801 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 5: of looking at. But you know, again, like you said, 802 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 5: they're going based on the grade, and you know what, 803 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 5: maybe they had a late third round. I mean, it's 804 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 5: one thing to have a third round pick on a guy. 805 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 5: This was the first pick of the third round. So 806 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 5: like essentially it's if you had a second round grade 807 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 5: on a guy, that's what you're going to. 808 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: Tell you ideally want to pick a second round grade with. 809 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 5: Like, if you have a third round grade on somebody, 810 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 5: you want to take him in late in the third round. 811 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 5: Now you feel like, oh, you're getting somebody that you 812 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 5: know with better value or even in the fourth you know, 813 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 5: top of the fourth. 814 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I was thinking of the Wellington Marras story 815 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 8: that we told last night. I mean, you know, lands 816 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 8: zer Line from NFL dot Com and numerous others have 817 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 8: a second round round grade on this guy. So you know, 818 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 8: they might have been debating over people in the third round, 819 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 8: and you know, someone might have stood in front of 820 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 8: the electronic board and said, well, wait a second, we 821 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 8: got a second round grade on this guy, so they 822 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 8: took him again. I don't have a problem drafting when 823 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 8: you have a position of strength. If he's the best 824 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 8: player on your board, you know, it's meritocracy. Let the 825 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 8: best man win. And if you were drafted a couple 826 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 8: of years ago at that same position and you haven't 827 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 8: done much, well guess why you're going to get your 828 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 8: butt kicked by somebody new coming in. It's better than 829 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 8: you or earn your keep. 830 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Bob, you know what, Like you mentioned he's 831 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 5: coming in and you said, you know, get some fresh legs, 832 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 5: get some young talent. Look, we also the Giants brought 833 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 5: in Jeremiah Ledbetter Detackle from Jacksonville. You mentioned Roy Robertson Harris, 834 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 5: but they also Chauncey Golston. I don't think we talked 835 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 5: about him as well. So this D line room like 836 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 5: they're gonna have to add some chairs to that D 837 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 5: live stacked. It's I mean, that thing is loaded. We 838 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 5: might we might be running a five three defense. 839 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 2: Needed to be. 840 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 8: It needed to be, You're right, Paul, because last year 841 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 8: they couldn't stop the run to save their lives, and 842 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 8: they couldn't stop the run in twenty twenty three to 843 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 8: save their lives. You know, we remember the you know, 844 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 8: the hiring of Bowen and and Dave was saying, you know, 845 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 8: he's good against the run. Well, they weren't good against 846 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 8: the run last year, so that's right, you told bodies 847 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 8: at it. I kind of almost look at Goldston as 848 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 8: like a three four pass rushing end more than that 849 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 8: ru run stuffer. But they got a lot of bodies 850 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 8: in here. Competition is good. It's a meritocracy. At the 851 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 8: end of the day. You're not tied into a ton 852 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 8: of money to anybody. So except bri ian'm the best 853 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 8: man win. And you know, maybe the other thing is 854 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 8: get to the end of camp, or you get somewhere 855 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 8: in camp and suddenly you spend one of these guys 856 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 8: off in a trade, not a lot of the guys 857 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 8: they drafted. 858 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 2: I think it's important to remember that. Just yesterday when 859 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 2: we talked to Joe Shane, he spoke of how important 860 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 2: it was for him to hold on to pick number 861 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 2: sixty five when he made the trade to go up 862 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: into the first round to get Jackson Dart. He said 863 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: the sixty five was incredibly important to him. He wasn't 864 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: moving that pick. He moved in ninety nine instead in 865 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 2: that deal probably cost him that third rounder next year. 866 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: But in his mind, he must have believed that he 867 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: was going to get a bona fide, serious, serious player 868 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 2: in this slot. So I feel very good about his 869 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: intent and what it is that he probably put into 870 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: making the selection. 871 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 8: Well, he was probably also thinking that some of these quarterbacks, 872 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 8: you know, Jalen Milroe still hasn't been drafted, while everybody's 873 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 8: on Shador watch, which you know, the NFL has now 874 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 8: spoken all thirty two teams have spoken twice, and you 875 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 8: know it's not you know, people are like, just think 876 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 8: about the Giants fans that were calling in the BBK 877 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 8: and on my podcast and on my serious x Cmer 878 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 8: NFL radio show that we're talking about tanking for Shador 879 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 8: and the Giants might have blown it by winning an 880 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 8: extra game and now they can't get Shador. Well in 881 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 8: the third we're in the third round right now, he 882 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 8: hasn't been taken. So the NFL scouts, GMS personnel people 883 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 8: and NFL coaching staffs that have gotten their eyes on 884 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 8: them few them as a backup with maybe the potential 885 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 8: to be a part time starter. Nobody's used him as 886 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 8: a first run starting quarterback in the NFL, right, and 887 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 8: the league has spoken here's where we are. So I think, 888 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 8: you know, when you take a look at all this 889 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 8: and Paul, you know you talked about not wanting to 890 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 8: surrender that first pick of the third round. You know, 891 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 8: guys get pushed down the board when quarterbacks go. Then 892 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 8: teams have some people off their board that others don't. 893 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 8: So Joe Shane didn't want to give up this pick 894 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 8: because it's basically a second round pick. You're getting a 895 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 8: player with a second round grade when you have the 896 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 8: first pick of the third round. 897 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: Sure, Bob, good stuff, my friend. Any party words before 898 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: we say goodbye? 899 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 8: Yeah? I mean, I think if you're a Giants, you 900 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 8: have to be really impressed and you have to be 901 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 8: very happy by what the team has done thus far. 902 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 8: Hopefully they add some on line, Hopefully they had a 903 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 8: running back in here somewhere along the way. But you know, 904 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 8: I think the Giants, this is a feeling amongst Giants 905 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 8: fans of immense optimism right now, not that they're going 906 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 8: to necessarily knock the Eagles off and win the division 907 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 8: or whatever, but that the Giants are going to be relevant, 908 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 8: and they're going to be competitive, and we're going to 909 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 8: get to December based on what they've done defensively and 910 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 8: the other moves that they've made, and we're going to 911 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 8: get to December and the Giants are going to be 912 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 8: in the conversation with well, if we win this one 913 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 8: and that one and this happens, we got a chance 914 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 8: to get a wildcard spot. I think that's all fans 915 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 8: want to see at this point in time. Yeah, we 916 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 8: wont super Bowls and championships, but after what people have 917 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 8: been through, just stay relevant, just just be in the mix. 918 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 8: And if it doesn't go then you know, all right, 919 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 8: we'd hear the little touch up we need moving forward. 920 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 8: But you know, you know, I think fans have been, 921 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 8: you know, gotten tired of being eliminated by Halloween or Thanksgiving, 922 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 8: and I think there's a real energy with the Giant 923 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 8: fan base right now. 924 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Bob Papa, Bob Papa, Voice of the Giants, 925 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: appreciate Hopeully. 926 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 3: We'll see up here soon, Bob. Enjoy the rest of. 927 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 8: Your You'll see me on Tuesday. 928 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it. Bob. 929 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 1: All right, but there's Bob Papa, the Voice of the Giants, 930 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 1: joining us right here on the Giants Draff Reaction Show, 931 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: brought to you by Christron Sean Harrah has to part 932 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: here Darius Alexander is waiting for him. You could talk 933 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: about how he can use his long arms to keep 934 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: you off of his h offie. 935 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: All right, that's it. 936 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: Well, his office so long you might be able to 937 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: reach through the zoom, so that'll be pretty impressive. I 938 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: he can do that, all right. I'm gonna slide over 939 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: here a fall so we can get little Is that right? 940 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 3: Pierson? Can I slide over the camera? 941 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 2: We have a comment from Dan Salomon who said, Joe 942 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: shanees presser, Oh what has he got? He says that 943 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: Alexander is a three technique that we know did a 944 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: lot of work on him. They felt they needed to 945 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 2: add some youth to the offen line. Had a really 946 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 2: good week with him at the Senior Bowl. You know 947 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 2: that you were there. He can develop with the depth 948 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: they have on the roster quote high ceiling unquote wow 949 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 2: for Alexander. 950 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I said too, And I'm gonna I'm 951 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: gonna read Dame Brugler's description and then James and Georgia. 952 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 3: I know you've been holding a long time. We will 953 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 3: get to you in just a second. 954 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:18,479 Speaker 7: Uh. 955 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: This was Dame Brugler's summary and the Beast on Darius Alexander, 956 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: which I had not read until now, and it sounds 957 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: a lot like mine, to be honest with you. Overall, 958 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: Alexander is in yet the full sum of his parts, 959 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: but his blend of power, length, and athletic body control 960 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: give him the makings of a three down scheme versatile 961 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: NFL starter. He projects best in an attacking role, where 962 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 1: he'd be able to maximize his disruptive straits. His peak 963 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: plays are reminiscent of Leonard Williams traits. 964 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 2: Has a lot of really good ones hip. 965 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, two one nine, three, nine, four five 966 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: one three, guys, we're gonna go for about a lot 967 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: on the twenty more minutes here, and we'll take your 968 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: calls reacting to the giants Bak. If you want to 969 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: talk to us about Abdul Carter and Jackson Dart, we 970 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: can of course do that as well. Let's go to 971 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: James and Georgia. He's been hanging out with us the longest. James, 972 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: what's going on? 973 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 3: How? 974 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 9: Hey, what's going on? 975 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 4: I appreciate you. 976 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 9: I'm taking my phone call again today. Yes, sir, I 977 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 9: know Jenn was talking earlier about I asked you about 978 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 9: prospects and you ran off a list. So I'm pretty 979 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 9: sure you probably named Alexander. 980 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 4: Oh. 981 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 3: I definitely did. Yeah, he was in there. 982 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 6: Okay, I don't think he'd make it. 983 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, what happened. I didn't think 984 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: Alexander would last that long? 985 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 7: Okay, Okay, A good player. 986 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, I like to pick, love the pick that. I 987 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 9: think they're doing a great job in the draft so far. 988 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 9: I was just gonna have a couple of questions, like 989 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 9: how is his is his run stopping like good? For 990 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 9: the conference he played in? Is a decent run stopper? 991 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 9: You know that he fit what we need on this team. 992 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 9: And then I just got two more after that. 993 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 2: He sheds very well. That's what we were talking about before, 994 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 2: about trades and tools because of his length. Yes, yes, 995 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 2: so so we can counter. He can use moves to 996 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 2: beat guys right off the snap. Yes, absolutely. Now he's 997 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 2: more than three technique. He's he's a penetrator. All right, 998 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 2: he's going to come off the ball and he's not 999 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 2: going to anchor and just plug a gap. 1000 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 3: That's not what he does. He attacks. 1001 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 2: He's a downhill guy. 1002 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 9: He's not like a snacks run stuff. 1003 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 2: No no no no no no no no no no 1004 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: no no. 1005 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: No no no think think more. Leonard Williams. 1006 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, okay. So this is the second year our 1007 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 9: coaches coached in the All Star Games. 1008 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 6: And I'm not. 1009 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 9: Sure if one of our coaches, because I know we 1010 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 9: will send some a lot of offensive guys actually got 1011 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 9: hands on with Alexander. 1012 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: And Andre Patterson was not down there, so we did 1013 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: not have anyone down there with him. 1014 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 8: I don't know, Okay, but that's that's so. 1015 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 9: That's been you know, all the guys that we've been drafting, 1016 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 9: like I said, especially the last two years, that we've 1017 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 9: got a lot of exposure to, they've been working out 1018 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 9: so far. 1019 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 2: That's the idea. The league does that on purpose, right, 1020 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,240 Speaker 2: They go to the teams that had a difficult season, 1021 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 2: and they say, okay, let's get some of these guys 1022 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 2: on the stabs of these All Star Games. They want 1023 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 2: to try to give them at least some flavor and 1024 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: taste of those prospects so they can have a better 1025 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: chance of trying to get better players, to improve the 1026 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 2: parody and the balance of the. 1027 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 9: League media and the mediocrity. 1028 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: Right. 1029 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 2: Well, that you, James, I'm gonna let you say that tonight. 1030 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,720 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be nice, Okay, So I've got. 1031 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 9: Too Because Sean was just talking about like the front 1032 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 9: they would we would start to run or we could 1033 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 9: run with packages. I'm gonna ask both of mine and 1034 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 9: then get off, uh. 1035 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 7: Five two four? 1036 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 8: What would that look like? 1037 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 9: Who would you put in there? And would it actually 1038 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 9: I know it will probably work, but you know, how 1039 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 9: would you make it work? And at this point, going 1040 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 9: back to Bob's point, and I know a lot of 1041 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 9: us have called in the past before, and we were 1042 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 9: on board with taking two shots at quarterback. 1043 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 4: This was before we. 1044 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 9: Find two in the off season, a lot of people 1045 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 9: will calling about and I was the one who would 1046 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 9: take two swings at quarterback in this draft, and is 1047 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 9: I would take a swing at a chador on the 1048 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 9: four because you're not losing anything at that point if 1049 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 9: he follows that four fall that far. 1050 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,760 Speaker 3: And James, there there is any room from the roster. 1051 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 9: Well, I mean you'd have to cut, You'd have to 1052 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 9: cut Tommy, You'd have to let Tommy de Beato go. 1053 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 3: Well, not just Tommy, you had to let James Winston go, uh. 1054 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,760 Speaker 9: For for a for for to bring in a foot well, because. 1055 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't have four to the door on the. 1056 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 9: What's it called the practice? 1057 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 3: Correct? 1058 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not I James appreciate the call. Yeah 1059 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that's gonna work. 1060 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 3: So I looked it up. By the way, so. 1061 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: Joel Thomas, who was the Giants running back coach, was 1062 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: now he went back to the Saints. Since then, he 1063 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator for Jackson Dart at the Senior Bowl. 1064 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: So I do wonder if the Giants, you know, if 1065 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,919 Speaker 1: he still talk to the Giants about that, and whether 1066 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: or not he got some good feedback to them on 1067 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: Dart in terms of what he did at the Senior Bowl. 1068 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: Shane Bowen coached the national team. I'm gonna check which 1069 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: team Darius Alexander was on. 1070 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 2: The only thing I was going to say about, Yes 1071 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 2: Dart is with all of the multiple connections the Giants had, 1072 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 2: I don't know how much more information they needed about him, 1073 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 2: But I think it's still a good point. 1074 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1075 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: So Alexander was on Bowen's team at the senior point. 1076 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: He was so Bowen was he was the head coach, 1077 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: not the defensive coordinator obviously, but that's someone you can 1078 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: keep your eye on there as someone that he was 1079 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: exposed to while he was down there. 1080 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 2: So if you're at practice, you could still see practice habits. 1081 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: So even if it's not necessarily a position coach. Oh, absolutely, 1082 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 2: you still know what's going on. And I'm sure he 1083 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 2: got reports from the guys working on him. 1084 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: So good point that you brought up. Yeah, very good point. James, 1085 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: appreciate the call. Two on one nine three, nine four 1086 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: five one for YouTube question if you guys, oh yeah, 1087 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: what do you got? Here's please asking what this means 1088 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: for Chapman. If this moves him down the depth chart, 1089 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: if he's a rotational guy. 1090 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. 1091 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: That's a good question. 1092 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: I think he's got to fight for a job. It's competition, 1093 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 2: that's what it. 1094 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: Is for I'm sorry, Paul, I'm I'm an idiot. Chaane 1095 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: Bowen was one of the head coaches at Shrine this year. Okay, 1096 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: I forget was the head coach at Senior Bowl. I 1097 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: had those two first yeah, Senior Bowls, and national team 1098 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: head coach was Mike Kafka. So again not on the 1099 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: defensive side, but he was there on the same roster. 1100 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 2: Somebody who was present. Yes, that's that's the best way 1101 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 2: to go about it. I forgot. I'm so fried right now. No, 1102 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 2: last three months that we've done well, I remember who 1103 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 2: was there. I just didn't remember who was on what 1104 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 2: team notes in front of me. As far as Chapman, 1105 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 2: it's no, it's competition. It's just that simple. It's competition 1106 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 2: whoever was on this roster, especially if you were not 1107 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 2: a starter. Okay, especially those guys. You've got to fight now. 1108 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 2: You've got to really fight for your job come August. 1109 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,439 Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with that because maybe the best 1110 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 2: win win. That's how you get better. You have multiple 1111 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 2: competitions at multiple positions, and every guy who wins is 1112 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,879 Speaker 2: supposed to make that position better. Nothing wrong with that. 1113 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: John, all right, So we have Kyle Williams. By the way, 1114 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: I should update since the Giants bake Dawoys. Yes, Ashton 1115 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: Julot went to the Chiefs. Very good edge player. They're 1116 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 1: really strengthening their trenches. There they picked an offensive lineman, 1117 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, and an edge player. 1118 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 3: Good players too. 1119 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: Browns took tight and Harrold Fannon Jr. Not sure how 1120 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: that works with Ndjoku. 1121 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really interesting. 1122 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 3: But maybe they're gonna go to a lot of twelve personnel. 1123 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 1: I guess they could do that, Darien porter Al Davis 1124 00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: selecting guys with great testing, very raiders type of there. 1125 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: Then you had Kyle Williams go to the New England Patriots. 1126 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: They finally select the wide receiver, and a pretty good 1127 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: one as well, though going ahead of Jalen Nole was surprising. 1128 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why he's dropping so much. Man, Maybe 1129 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: you know I was. I've been wrong on receivers before. 1130 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: Vernon Brown to the New Orleans Saints. The Texas He's 1131 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: a run stuffing defensive tackle type. Bill's at seventy two 1132 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 1: selected Landon Jackson. He's a good, powerful edge run stuffer type. 1133 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: So I think that's a nice pick for them. And 1134 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 1: then the Jets just picked Florida State cornerback Azare Thomas, 1135 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,439 Speaker 1: so he'll be a good bump and run player for them. 1136 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: Remember that's the scheme that Aaron Glenn wants to run. 1137 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: He wants to be up in your face, bump and 1138 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: run type of defensive coordinator. That's what Azaree Thomas does 1139 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: as a big, powerful, rangey type of cornerback. So I 1140 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: think good pick there. All right, let's get back to 1141 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: the phones. Marcus and Rochester is up next. Marcus, what's happening? 1142 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 3: Man? 1143 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 7: Hey? What's up? 1144 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 3: Man? Hi? 1145 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 6: Yeah? I wanted to say, man to the like the 1146 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 6: Giants fans. I think we're doing a great job what 1147 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 6: we're doing right now. We pick in need and value 1148 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 6: and it's matching both in areas we need and definitely 1149 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 6: with the Jackson Dark I like that pick. I like 1150 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 6: all the picks we make in and I'm going to 1151 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 6: be a head coach in college down in North Carolina. 1152 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 6: So I just got this one thing to say to 1153 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 6: Joe Shane. When you start listening to the fans, you're 1154 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 6: gonna start sitting with the fans. So you know, just 1155 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 6: keep doing what you're doing, and that's it. 1156 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: Not appreciate the call, Marcus, And look, Joe Shane's not 1157 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 1: No NFL team is gonna operate that way, right, So 1158 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right. Follow your process, trust the 1159 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: way you do things. Pick the guys that you think 1160 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 1: are the best, and that's it. That's how you that's 1161 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 1: how you need to operate if you want to be 1162 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,320 Speaker 1: a successful franchise. 1163 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 2: There's a lot of outside noise in New York. It 1164 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 2: gets really loud, but Joe Shane is good at blocking 1165 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 2: it out. 1166 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so far that that's for sure. As the Giants 1167 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: have picked some pretty good value guys here in this drafting, 1168 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 1: including trading up to get a quarterback that they help 1169 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: can develop into a franchise. Guy Dean is in Minnesota. 1170 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 3: He's up next. Hi Dean? 1171 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, Hi, how are you doing? 1172 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 6: Guys? 1173 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 3: We're great? What do you got? 1174 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 10: I have my thought about shadow standards why he hasn't 1175 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,720 Speaker 10: been drafted drafted then. I don't know if you guys 1176 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 10: agree with me or not, but I feel like coaches 1177 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,439 Speaker 10: of all these teams are might be worried about their 1178 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:43,399 Speaker 10: job security by if they draft Standards because dancers are 1179 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 10: his dad might over might become the team coach the 1180 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 10: following year if I may. 1181 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 2: And I'm going to be very nice and polite about this. 1182 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 2: What everybody reads in the media, whether it's in the papers, 1183 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 2: whether it's on radio, or whether it's on television, is media. 1184 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 2: It's not the real scouting reports. There are times, and 1185 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 2: I know some some people find this very hard to believe, 1186 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 2: but the teams who spend millions of dollars to have 1187 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 2: dozens of scouts who scour these games around the country, bleed, sweat, tears, 1188 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 2: all kinds of work that they put in for expensive, 1189 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 2: expensive pieces of research, they know what they're doing a 1190 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,399 Speaker 2: heck of a lot better than the folks who are 1191 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 2: draft gurus. Not that I don't I don't want to 1192 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 2: disrespect those guys, but they're not spending millions of dollars 1193 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 2: sending people across the country every day, leaving their families 1194 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 2: for weeks and months at a time. Okay, sometimes the 1195 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 2: hype that you read in the media gives you a 1196 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 2: very false sense of the value of a player, and 1197 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 2: maybe that's exactly what's just happened here. 1198 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: Well, and look, and even if you talk all the 1199 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: guys I had leaning up to the draft, not one 1200 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: person I had on the Giants Otle podcast told me 1201 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 1: he was a top fifteen player, top ten player. You're right, 1202 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: they didn't. They had him as like a second round 1203 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: type of quarterback. And based on what people were here, 1204 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: and going into this about half the league had Sanders 1205 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 1: ahead of Dart and vice versa. Right, it was kind 1206 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: of a coin flipus to which one would go first. 1207 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,760 Speaker 1: It turned out Dart one first, and then Tyler Shuk. 1208 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: We've talked about him. His tape was probably just this 1209 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 1: year better than any other quarterbacks tape it was, except 1210 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: for cam Ward Like that's how good he looked at 1211 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: Louisville this year. Now you have the agent, injuries and 1212 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and then look there's stuff that goes 1213 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: along with Chador Sanders. It just is I mean, look 1214 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: at all the attention he's getting for not being drafted. 1215 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: What happens if you know he's not a guy that 1216 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 1: was gonna go in there and start right away, much 1217 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: like Jackson Dart. 1218 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 3: He was gonna need some seasoning. The minute he goes 1219 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 3: on your team, on your bench, the pressure's just gonna 1220 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 3: build to play him if things don't go well, without 1221 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 3: a doubt. So all those things going to the equation. 1222 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: Obviously, I'm not going to comment on the reports of 1223 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: the meetings and how those win at the combine and 1224 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: all that stuff that's out there. You've heard it. I 1225 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: don't know if they're right or wrong, but they're out there, 1226 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 1: and look, do you don't have that many teams that 1227 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 1: had picks that were in dire need of a quarterback. 1228 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,720 Speaker 1: The Steelers passed on him, the Browns have now passed 1229 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 1: on him multiple times. Clearly that's not a guy they 1230 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 1: wanted in Cleveland, otherwise they would have picked him by now. 1231 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: The Steelers are coming up here in about ten selections. 1232 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: I think if he's still there, I think the Steelers 1233 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: would probably pick him in that spot. All the reports 1234 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 1: were that they were really in consideration with him in 1235 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: the first round, So if he's still there, would imagine 1236 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: he would get picked at that selection. If he's still 1237 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: on the board, so wolf to wait and see when 1238 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 1: he gets picked. In appreciate the call, but look, Dame 1239 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 1: Brugler had him and I think in the thirties on 1240 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: his big board. But look, quarterback is a very specific 1241 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: position to scout. You're either gonna want the guy to 1242 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,879 Speaker 1: be the leader team or you're not based a lot 1243 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 1: on his personality. And look, that's just the way it is. 1244 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 2: Some of the NFL people that we did talk to 1245 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 2: at the combine, and we're talking about not media people, 1246 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 2: but NFL people flat out said he's gonna have to 1247 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 2: go to a place that's going to be conducive to 1248 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 2: all the things that he does do and covers up 1249 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 2: the stuff that he doesn't do well. He was gonna 1250 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 2: need to go to a place where a really good 1251 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 2: offensive line. John, we heard that. We heard that they 1252 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 2: were going to have to have a good run game 1253 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 2: as well. We heard that. We also heard that his 1254 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,839 Speaker 2: receivers were gonna have to be really special receivers who 1255 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 2: are going to be able to attack the ball and 1256 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,840 Speaker 2: get open. We heard that too. Well, you're now asking 1257 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 2: about three pretty big boxes that have to be checked simultaneously. 1258 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 2: You know not every team in the league can do that, 1259 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 2: right now. 1260 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 3: Don't disagree? 1261 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: Two one nine three nine four five one three two 1262 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 1: A one nine three nine four five one three. Let's 1263 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: wrap things up our final call the show. It's lenning Columbia, Maryland. 1264 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 7: Len. 1265 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 3: What's going on? Pal? 1266 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 7: Hey? 1267 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 4: How you doing? Guy? 1268 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 3: You must have been happy with mister Alexander Len. 1269 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 4: How about that? You know? John? Once Williams went at 1270 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 4: the end of the first round, I thought to myself, well, 1271 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,839 Speaker 4: we just just pick Alexander at thirty four, and then, 1272 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 4: of course we made a trade, but yeah, I really 1273 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:12,839 Speaker 4: wanted the guy. 1274 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 7: You know. 1275 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 4: You you said something the other day that was kind 1276 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 4: of interesting, Sean. You said you thought we might play 1277 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 4: a more traditional three to four at least on first 1278 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 4: and second down. And boy, Alexander's perfect for that six' 1279 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 4: four three or, five perfect height and. Weight, great great. 1280 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 4: Pick and of course we all know we he was 1281 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 4: just going to pick a defensive tackle. THERE i, mean 1282 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 4: we had to take. One we're all tired of seeing 1283 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 4: us get gashed and complaining about it for the last 1284 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 4: ten games of the. Season and this is this is 1285 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 4: going to make a big. Difference it's going to make 1286 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 4: a big. Difference and the first two, PICKS i, mean you, 1287 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 4: know what can you? Say these are from as far 1288 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 4: back As, january it seemed like the plan was bridge 1289 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 4: quarterback and ringing a young quarterback in the. Draft and you, 1290 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 4: know they. Did they did just what they said they 1291 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 4: were going to, do and you, know hopefully it works 1292 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 4: out With Dark but, hey you, KNOW i think there 1293 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 4: was a. MANDATE i can't prove, this, obviously BUT i 1294 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 4: think there was a. Mandate they had to get a. 1295 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 4: Quarterback they had to pick a. QUARTERBACK i really believe. 1296 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 3: THAT i think they wanted to pick a. Quarterback, LEN 1297 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 3: i don't think it was a. 1298 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: Mandate if anything goes a mandate From Joe, shane WHERE 1299 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,440 Speaker 1: i think they wanted a young quarterback on the roster. 1300 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 4: Thing in case you want to get another. 1301 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 2: Quart Lenn just the other, Day Joe shane said to 1302 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 2: Us le Lenn Hold on just the other, Day Joe shane, 1303 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 2: said because of the two veteran quarterbacks he, signed it 1304 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 2: was not mandatory to draft a. Quarterback he flat out told, 1305 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 2: you right to your. 1306 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 4: Face, yeah, Okay, paul he. 1307 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: DID i got the, Sense, paul they wanted to pick 1308 00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 1: a QUARTER i think they wanted. 1309 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 2: To but when he says it wasn't, mandatory there's a 1310 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 2: difference between one two and. 1311 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: Mandatory although they weren't going to pick a, quarterback they 1312 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: didn't like just trying to take a. 1313 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 4: PICK i just think as far back As, january the plan, 1314 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 4: was you got to take a, quarterback you got to 1315 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 4: pick a. 1316 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 2: Qrd WHAT i got? One so who cares what the 1317 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 2: plan was In? 1318 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 3: January we got? 1319 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 4: Three according to WHAT i thought the plan. Was i'm 1320 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 4: with that one last thing from as far back As, 1321 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 4: JANUARY i don't, know maybe this is, obvious but as 1322 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 4: far back As, JANUARY i felt like there was a 1323 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 4: sense of urgency for the first, time all the way 1324 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 4: back to the first draft they handled in twenty, TWO 1325 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 4: i just felt this. Year, again this may be, obvious 1326 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 4: BUT i just felt there was an urgency there from 1327 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 4: the guys they were picking up during the. SEASON i, 1328 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 4: mean it's been a great off, season terrific off season 1329 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 4: right up to this, draft doing exactly what they said 1330 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 4: they were going to, do and there was an urgency 1331 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 4: there to get it. DONE i like. That Go, giants 1332 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 4: thanks for taking my. 1333 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Call, guys thanks, allan thank you appreciate the. 1334 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 3: Call And i'm sure you guys were watching you saw 1335 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 3: my little pen flip. 1336 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 2: There let him, Know, john Because Jerry jones is doing 1337 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 2: a dance on THE, tv just. 1338 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Say well he should, BE i, know and when when 1339 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 1: well and just to just, FOLKS i said. It when 1340 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: The giants got to Pick, paul who DID i, say 1341 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: is my highest graded player left on my? 1342 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 3: Board when The giants came to. 1343 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 2: Pick, revel The South Carolina East Carols carolina cornerback well. 1344 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 3: Guests to The, cowboys just took a pick number seventy. 1345 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 3: Six speak of The. 1346 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 1: Devil come, on oh, man, geez all, right that is 1347 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 1: very good value for them right. 1348 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 3: There which is which? 1349 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: IS i think The eagles and The commanders and The 1350 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 1: cowboys have all done very well in this, draft and 1351 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 1: that does not make me. 1352 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 3: Happy, well the whole division, IS i, think and. 1353 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 1: The GIANTS i Think i've done really well, too by the, 1354 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: Way but just you, Know i'd rather have them do 1355 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: poorly and The giants. Will but it is what it, 1356 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: is all, right, folks we'll be back with you. TOMORROW 1357 01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 1: i think the plan is eleven thirty. Percent we're gonna come. 1358 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 1: On we'll take some calls before the. Pick we'll get 1359 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: your reaction to what's happened so. Far come in join. 1360 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Us it'll be. Fun don't worry about the one call 1361 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: a week where we can come in. Call we could 1362 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 1: have longer. Conversations we're gonna make it attempt to stay 1363 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: onto the fifth round. PICK i don't know if we're 1364 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 1: gonna make, it, guys but we will. Try but we'll 1365 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: at least stay on for an, hour at the very 1366 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 1: least until one. O'clock so we're gonna go at least 1367 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 1: until one as long as we keep getting your. Calls 1368 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna need them in order uh to do the, 1369 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: show so we would appreciate it if you join us 1370 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 1: For Paul. 1371 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 3: Datino I'm John. 1372 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 1: Schmelk that's Your Giants Draft reaction show presented By Chris 1373 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: john from The hackensack And Meridian health podcast. 1374 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 3: Studio keep getting better For. 1375 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: Paulatino great job By piercing keeping us on the air 1376 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 1: the last couple of, days and we'll be back again 1377 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: tomorrow again at eleven thirty On saturday with more on 1378 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: The giants and THE Nfl. Draft we'll see you then 1379 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of Your friday and the rest of 1380 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: the third round