Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong and Getty and he.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2: Puerto Rico, where I'm in my home state of Delaware.
Speaker 2: They're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage icy float down,
Speaker 2: there's your supporters. Now, the White House says that Biden
Speaker 2: wasn't talking about Trump's supporters.
Speaker 3: They even released a transcript last night where they inserted
Speaker 3: an apostrophe in the word supporters.
Speaker 2: There's an apostrophe there. He's talking about his supporter, I
Speaker 2: mean the comedian his comments. The only garbage icy floating down,
Speaker 2: there's your supporters.
Speaker 4: Apostrophe S so singular supporter with an apostrophe and an s.
Speaker 4: As someone who had a starter growing up, it's very
Speaker 4: obvious to me there's an apostrophe at the end of
Speaker 4: supporters there.
Speaker 5: He was preferring to be garbage viewed by supporters, not
Speaker 5: simply the supporters themselves.
Speaker 2: It's a question, is John's head of an apostrophe? Really
Speaker 2: it's a.
Speaker 3: Nothing murder h It's possible that that's true, but you
Speaker 3: don't allow that possibility with anything that's Trump said on
Speaker 3: the Trump side obviously, even.
Speaker 2: If it's like a fourth rate surrogate.
Speaker 3: Right, And I should have grabbed the clip. Nora O'Donnell
Speaker 3: actually said the other night something along the lines of
Speaker 3: the Trump campaign pouncing on Biden's gaff showing no grace.
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, for all the grace that's shown by
Speaker 3: you and the Biden Harris crowd on if Trump has
Speaker 3: a gaff, give me a break. Who do you think
Speaker 3: you're fooling with that stuff?
Speaker 1: Which I tell you what, and every time somebody like
Speaker 1: her says something like that, another five hundred people say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not a fan of Trump, but
Speaker 1: I'm not letting you win with that.
Speaker 2: Crab well right, showing no grace. I don't even have
Speaker 2: the energy, right, So that.
Speaker 3: Fits in with this thing that I just came across. Oh, first,
Speaker 3: let's hear from David Axelrod on why this isn't necessarily
Speaker 3: good for the Democrats.
Speaker 4: Instead of her closing speech being the story, half of
Speaker 4: it was what Biden said, and it gave an out
Speaker 4: to Trump after that horrible rally at Madison Square Garden
Speaker 4: with that comedian sliming Porto Rico and Porto Ricans, and
Speaker 4: it gave him a chance to pose in a garbage
Speaker 4: truck and say, they're accusing my supporters of being garbage.
Speaker 4: So it really was an unforced era, but it wasn't hers,
Speaker 4: it was his.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it did not help Kamala Harris Ultimately, I don't
Speaker 3: think in anyway. I don't agree with a lot of
Speaker 3: his characterization there, but I don't think it helped Harris Ultimately.
Speaker 3: I love how the comedian was the leaf that fell
Speaker 3: in the forest, never mind the tree, right, and they
Speaker 3: elevated that into a mighty oak, crashing into Times Square
Speaker 3: and killing a hundred tourists. But then this sitting botas.
Speaker 1: Says is what he says, that it's like it's a
Speaker 1: big nothing y'aller fools.
Speaker 3: So I didn't read this story on Fox, but it
Speaker 3: rings true. TV executive panics that Trump winning means press
Speaker 3: has little influence, mainstream media is dead. You'd have to
Speaker 3: almost conclude, wouldn't you, Especially there's a decent chance that
Speaker 3: Trump is gonna overperform so much in Florida, do so
Speaker 3: much better that he's done in California in the past
Speaker 3: and Texas, that he is not only going to win
Speaker 3: the presidency. He's gonna win the flat out freaking vote.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's just playing, gonna have more people vote
Speaker 3: for him. Overall, He'll win the electoral College and the
Speaker 3: popular vote. I'm not a Marxist, but I do like
Speaker 3: tearing down the system of mainstream media, and I would
Speaker 3: love to see people's heads explode if that happens, if
Speaker 3: Trump wins the electric College and the general election vote.
Speaker 3: But see, so you can't he can't just lean on
Speaker 3: We've got to do with the electoral colleges Claire blah blah,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: No, he just flat out got more votes.
Speaker 3: How would you not include that mainstream media is dead
Speaker 3: in its current configuration. It's got to start doing it differently,
Speaker 3: which is what Jeff Bezos was saying at the Washington Post.
Speaker 2: We got it.
Speaker 3: We got to start doing things differently, completely differently in
Speaker 3: some ways, because they have gone all in, not just
Speaker 3: like sixty forty, seventy thirty, even eighty twenty, it's really
Speaker 3: practically ninety five to five on on promoting one candidate
Speaker 3: over the other. And you still got your asses kicked.
Speaker 3: So at that point, how do you feel relevant at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: To, you know, abuse, Thomas Jefferson from time to time,
Speaker 1: the tree of liberty must be watered with canceled subscriptions.
Speaker 1: I guess you know what's amazing from just from a
Speaker 1: human psychology a standpoint. Tell me if I'm wrong, folks,
Speaker 1: to be as wildly out of touch as the mainstream
Speaker 1: media media is. We've talked about it so many times,
Speaker 1: how they're the view they give you of what America
Speaker 1: is and what America thinks is like a funhouse mirror.
Speaker 1: But to be so wildly out of touch and be
Speaker 1: completely unaware of it to the point that you get
Speaker 1: the result that Jack's talking about after the election, They're
Speaker 1: just they can't even believe that the America they've been
Speaker 1: describing to us didn't go the way they wanted. I mean,
Speaker 1: it'd be like walking into a big room full of
Speaker 1: people in full San Francisco forty nine ers regalia and
Speaker 1: just be going on and on about how the Niners
Speaker 1: suck in their fans, are stupid and nobody likes them
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and be unaware.
Speaker 2: Of what you're doing. I mean that is that is
Speaker 2: some serious blindness.
Speaker 1: Of course, anybody who studied history knows entire populations can
Speaker 1: go in for things that are utterly abominable. You can
Speaker 1: convince and bamboozle, bribe and tempt soft headed humans to
Speaker 1: do about anything.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at Joaquin Castro, remember him, representative from
Speaker 3: Texas who ran for president same year Kamala did.
Speaker 2: Was he the guy who tried that ham handed Biden
Speaker 2: is senile?
Speaker 3: Ploy He lasted about as long as Kamala did that year.
Speaker 3: He's up there on CNN it says Hispanic's rallying against
Speaker 3: racist terms at Trump rally. So day five of covering
Speaker 3: that comedian's jokes.
Speaker 2: The leaf that fell in the forest, day.
Speaker 3: Five, to David Axelrod's point, that's your closing argument, obscuring
Speaker 3: anything else, Kamala Harris wants to say, Okay, I can
Speaker 3: go ahead. I'm all for it since I want her
Speaker 3: to lose.
Speaker 2: So speaking of the media, came across this.
Speaker 1: The fabulous Andrew Styles at the Free Beacon is talking
Speaker 1: about this garbage election will be over in four days,
Speaker 1: god willing. And he goes through if Kamala Harris wins,
Speaker 1: and if Trump wins, and if Tamala wins. His main
Speaker 1: point is the mainstream media will congratulate themselves for saving democracy.
Speaker 1: For many journalists, it will be the best thing that
Speaker 1: will ever happen to them for the rest of their
Speaker 1: miserable lives.
Speaker 2: But then he says, and he's.
Speaker 1: Quite right, and we saw this post twenty twenty that
Speaker 1: without the great monster to rail against, they will be.
Speaker 1: They will hemorrhage money because nobody wants to hear about
Speaker 1: how Meanhouse Republicans are a bunch of Nazis for voting
Speaker 1: down some obscure Harris Humor Common Sense Solutions Act of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. There's just no drama in it. So
Speaker 1: it'll be terrible for them. If Kamala wins business wise,
Speaker 1: which I think is true. But here's the part I
Speaker 1: really liked, and this is.
Speaker 2: Well, this is one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1: If Trump wins, millions of college degree holders will suffer
Speaker 1: screeching mental breakdowns, will witness a collective tantrum the likes
Speaker 1: of which the world has never known.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be It's gonna be as if I'm
Speaker 3: dipped in a vat of Schadenfreud on Tuesday Night.
Speaker 2: If it goes the way.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna go, I mean, it's gonna be
Speaker 3: just I'm just gonna lay there in my Shoden Freud, rolling.
Speaker 2: Around, warm and off like Caligula of Old. I know, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have been.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be like the two I think, just
Speaker 1: two or actual riots I've been present for and both
Speaker 1: times I had the same feeling.
Speaker 2: This is awful, what is really interesting.
Speaker 1: This is something a witness and I think that the
Speaker 1: mass freak out is going to be a lot like that.
Speaker 2: Michael, did you want to say something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack said that twenty sixteen was one of the
Speaker 1: greatest nights.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be better. This could be better than the
Speaker 2: greatest night of my life. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Our lives professionally will be slightly more difficult if Trump wins.
Speaker 2: I agree, just because Hey, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: It's it's much easier to rail against the evils of
Speaker 1: the sitting administration.
Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, it's just it's effortless.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rush Limbaugh was at his best when you had
Speaker 3: a Democrat in the White House.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And our pledge to you is if Trump wins and
Speaker 1: the Trump administration screws up, we're gonna say, hey, they
Speaker 1: screwed up.
Speaker 2: It's what we do. So like it or not, that's
Speaker 2: what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3: But anyway, my pledge is we're going to talk a
Speaker 3: lot less about politics here soon, I hope.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, amen to that anyway, But back to styles,
Speaker 1: because I think this is so good.
Speaker 2: Let's see the collective trauma.
Speaker 1: There will be a bunch of headlines about how America
Speaker 1: chose fascism right. A bunch of celebrities will insist they
Speaker 1: were serious about leaving the country but never follow through
Speaker 1: the unchanging their official residences to some offshore tax haven.
Speaker 1: Journalists will anoint themselves again as guardians of democracy, only harder.
Speaker 2: Their behavior will.
Speaker 1: Grow increasingly stupid, perhaps to the point where they start
Speaker 1: doing sittings on the White House lawn or reading Constitution.
Speaker 2: And guy Fowkes Masks.
Speaker 1: Are quitting their jobs to go live in a compound
Speaker 1: with armed separatists in California. And no one will ever
Speaker 1: ask Kamala Harris to run for public office ever again.
Speaker 2: Either way, he should be fun to watch. Oh if
Speaker 2: Trump wins.
Speaker 3: How many Democrats don't attend the inauguration? First of all,
Speaker 3: before we ever get close to that, how many Democrats
Speaker 3: refuse to accept the vote sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what time is it. Yeah, we should probably
Speaker 1: take a break. I got all sorts of stuff I
Speaker 1: want to get to.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about how Ford is pausing perhaps forever,
Speaker 3: the F one fifty lightning electric truck because people just
Speaker 3: don't want it, and another big blow to the electric
Speaker 3: car industry.
Speaker 2: Hey, I wanted to throw in one more thing.
Speaker 1: I almost forgot about it, speaking of the whole garbage deal,
Speaker 1: which was what spawned the whole preceding conversation.
Speaker 2: There are five.
Speaker 1: Very close Senate races, and Fox News reached out to
Speaker 1: the five Democrat senators or candidates they're all sitting as senators,
Speaker 1: come to think of it, for a comment on Biden's remarks,
Speaker 1: and they did not go with the hey he uh
Speaker 1: he misspoke and blah blah blah. They all went with
Speaker 1: like Tammy Baldwin. Tammy Baldwin does not agree with President Biden.
Speaker 1: Her campaign spokeswoman said, Tammy's fighting for all Wisconsin nights,
Speaker 1: no matter who they are and who they vote for.
Speaker 3: Well, it's right that handful of governor senator candidates on
Speaker 3: the left that have Trump in their ads. I'll work
Speaker 3: with Trump. Oh, the fascist dictator who's going to end
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 2: You're gonna work with him? Huh.
Speaker 3: You must not feel the same way about him as
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris apparently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's just political practicality, but they're not trying
Speaker 1: to explain the remark.
Speaker 2: They're just openly disagreeing with it.
Speaker 3: Much more on the way, Hey, you can Texas any
Speaker 3: time you want text line four one five two nine
Speaker 3: five KFTC.
Speaker 6: New York Mayor Eric Adam spoke today the YPD recruit
Speaker 6: graduation ceremony. It's wild to think that someday one of
Speaker 6: those fresh young faces could be the one who finally
Speaker 6: takes Adams into custody.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 1: That's a decent enough political joke, I guess, although it
Speaker 1: feels like lawfair to me a little bit.
Speaker 3: A couple of Elon things before we move into something
Speaker 3: that Elon really played a major role in electric vehicles
Speaker 3: and how they ain't quite catching on like people thought
Speaker 3: they would. But first Elon this from the Washington Post.
Speaker 3: I just thought their take on this was well typical
Speaker 3: of left leaning views of government. Elon Musk is enthusiastic
Speaker 3: about the potential to bring his slash and burn business
Speaker 3: philosophy honed at Twitter and Tesla to dramatically cut the
Speaker 3: federal government under Trump, critics see potential conflicts of interest,
Speaker 3: So Lee cow his slash and burn philosophy, which you
Speaker 3: know are negative terms you use to describe what you
Speaker 3: have to do to keep your business prosperous.
Speaker 2: Well trying to describe them as wanton destruction U.
Speaker 3: And that is never allowed in the government where you
Speaker 3: are allowed to do the sort of thing where you say,
Speaker 3: this doesn't make any sense, why do we still do it?
Speaker 3: That would be slash and burn because people lose their jobs.
Speaker 3: Conflicts of interest?
Speaker 1: How about the conflict of interest with the taxpayer? That
Speaker 1: is the never ending growth of the money squandering, money
Speaker 1: barwing colossus, the unstoppable colossus.
Speaker 2: That is the federal government.
Speaker 1: When was the last time you wrote about that conflict
Speaker 1: of interest?
Speaker 2: Wappo?
Speaker 1: Actually, they write about the debt fairly frequently, but nobody
Speaker 1: seems to care about it or.
Speaker 2: All the reflective interest.
Speaker 1: I'd like to bring the interest on my fist in
Speaker 1: conflict with your jaw. Wow, that wasn't a great metaphor,
Speaker 1: but the point is, I.
Speaker 3: Feel like that's off the rails, can't take it anymore.
Speaker 3: We'll get enough on that because I'm one around out
Speaker 3: of time. You had another Elon thing before I move
Speaker 3: on to the electric's vehicle. Yeah, listen to this shiznizzl,
Speaker 3: will you? This is Wired dot com, which is well
Speaker 3: read young techie oriented. Elon Musk could have US citizenship
Speaker 3: provoked if he lied on immigration forms. Now they're trying
Speaker 3: to cook up that Elon, as a young immigrant to
Speaker 3: the US, worked about it, going after an African American.
Speaker 3: That's right, targeting an African American that he lied about it,
Speaker 3: and therefore his citizenship should be revoked. As that same
Speaker 3: side of the aisle, let's send millions of strangers, including
Speaker 3: thousands of Venezuelan gang bangers. You want to kick Elon
Speaker 3: Musk out of the country, and so you you're the
Speaker 3: party of open borders, calling the other side fascist, You're
Speaker 3: gonna kick out the world.
Speaker 2: They're just man because you don't like his politics. Right.
Speaker 2: The leader in elect cars and space travel.
Speaker 3: Okay, speaking of electric cars from the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 3: Ford motor to pause. We'll see if it's paused or
Speaker 3: shut down F one fifty lightning production until mid January.
Speaker 3: At least I wouldn't be surprised if it just never
Speaker 3: comes back. Ford in August said it was scrapping plans
Speaker 3: for an electric three rows sport utility vehicle, citing pressure
Speaker 3: on battery powered cars as in and nobody wants them.
Speaker 3: Automakers have poured billions of dollars into developing and churning
Speaker 3: out more electric vehicles, even as their new models continue
Speaker 3: to generate steep losses. Ford, which is one of the
Speaker 3: very few legacy automakers to separately report results from its
Speaker 3: electric vehicle business.
Speaker 2: The other ones don't, so GM and versum if they don't.
Speaker 3: Separate them out, so it's not as obvious to everybody
Speaker 3: that this is bleeding is dry. The only way we're
Speaker 3: making any money is on our you know, our big
Speaker 3: gas powered diesel powered guv's. That's where our money's being made.
Speaker 3: So not even separate out, separated out, but Ford does,
Speaker 3: and they have been uh as it says here, battery
Speaker 3: powered models have been piling up on dealer lots all
Speaker 3: across the country. So it just they're just not a demand.
Speaker 1: It's just not practical, and it's not clear at all
Speaker 1: that it's environmentally beneficial in its totality. And again I
Speaker 1: am completely agnostic on that question. If I became convinced that, yeah,
Speaker 1: electric vehicles are clearly better for the planet, I'm all in,
Speaker 1: you know, given their limitations and all for whatever situation
Speaker 1: where they're appropriate.
Speaker 2: But I'm all in.
Speaker 1: I have no interest in defeating electric vehicles out of
Speaker 1: some animus toward them in general. But they haven't made
Speaker 1: the factual case, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's it's rough on all ends.
Speaker 3: People for whatever reason culturally don't want them, and we
Speaker 3: don't know how we generate the electricity of which gets
Speaker 3: to your not even sure to be better for the planet.
Speaker 1: Anyway, coming up, PayPal knows your pants size and it's
Speaker 1: telling everyone.
Speaker 3: And Nate Silver says they're fudging the polling to try
Speaker 3: to keep this race close.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: First of all, Joe Getty is a I had the
Speaker 3: right word, Oh, analytical genius. Ah, that's a first. As
Speaker 3: I just heard Charles Payne on Fox say exactly what
Speaker 3: you said earlier, right after the information came out. So
Speaker 3: the big economic news of the day is the jobs
Speaker 3: report came out, and while they were expecting one hundred
Speaker 3: and thirteen thousand jobs to be created, it ended up
Speaker 3: being less than that. In that it was about twelve thousand,
Speaker 3: thirteen thousand, expected twelve thousand. Actually, but I don't remember
Speaker 3: ever hearing expectations being missed by that much on any
Speaker 3: big number.
Speaker 1: It's like you're at at a job interview and you
Speaker 1: say I'm going to need at least one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a year, and they say, you know,
Speaker 1: we're thinking nine dollars an hour.
Speaker 2: Like when I get on the scale and expect to
Speaker 2: be one seventy.
Speaker 3: Five, I have allow that's missing expectations. I have an
Speaker 3: old timey scale because I like accurate.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 3: I was in a nice hotel room not long ago.
Speaker 3: It had your spring scale on it. Those things are worthless.
Speaker 3: I don't even know why they sell them. But I
Speaker 3: got on it had me at one sixty eight, so
Speaker 3: it wasn't even like within twenty pounds of what I.
Speaker 2: I just stolen that scale and brought it home.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I've got like a scale like you have it
Speaker 3: used to have at the doctor's office, with the heavy
Speaker 3: thing you moved to the right or the left or whatever,
Speaker 3: and you can regularly calibrate it to make sure it's accurate.
Speaker 2: AnyWho, I had a point.
Speaker 3: Oh, it'd be like if I said it won seventy
Speaker 3: five and clank, you know, it.
Speaker 2: Slammed up to the top. You eight four hundred pounds.
Speaker 3: The expectations were off, so and all the reporting is
Speaker 3: because of the jobs came in so much below expectations,
Speaker 3: because of the hurricane and the big labor strike. And
Speaker 3: Charles Pain and Fox just said exactly the same thing
Speaker 3: Joe said, and he said that this is dumb. You
Speaker 3: think the people that make these projections never heard about
Speaker 3: the hurricane or the labor.
Speaker 2: Strike, Right, that doesn't make any sense. Nice trial.
Speaker 3: That's the weakest explanation ever. This is what they do
Speaker 3: for a living. They take in all the different factors
Speaker 3: that could possibly contribute to what a number is going
Speaker 3: to be and factor them in to their prediction, including
Speaker 3: things like biggest hurricanes in the last fifty.
Speaker 1: Years, for instance, and famous strikes everybody's talking about.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, what a load of crap.
Speaker 3: Now, I still don't know if it helps Trump or
Speaker 3: hurts Harris or makes any difference to anybody. That particular
Speaker 3: thing doesn't really matter. So yesterday's twenty four hour flap
Speaker 3: and I don't know, maybe it'll last longer. Mark Cuban,
Speaker 3: the billionaire who's came out and endorsed Kamala earlier this week,
Speaker 3: was on the View and was talking about women and
Speaker 3: Trump and that sort of thing.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump, you never see him around strong intelligent women ever,
Speaker 5: It's just that simple. They're intimidating to him. He doesn't
Speaker 5: like to be challenged by them. And you know, Nikki
Speaker 5: Hally will call him on his nonsense with reproductive rights
Speaker 5: and how he sees and treats and talks about women.
Speaker 5: I mean, he just can't have her around. It wouldn't work.
Speaker 2: Boy. There was a lot of crap there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so a whole bunch of strong women that
Speaker 3: either vote for Trump like Trump or when Trump's orbit
Speaker 3: came out, here's some of them.
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you recognize their voices will tell
Speaker 2: you who they were later.
Speaker 3: If you are a school teacher, if you are a
Speaker 3: US militaryman, and you're a woman and a Trump supporter,
Speaker 3: then to Mark Cuban, you are stupid and weak.
Speaker 2: It's a disgrace. And Kamala Harris stays silent.
Speaker 3: Cuban's words are mean, sad and mistogynistic.
Speaker 5: Just a hunch, but I've been on an election day,
Speaker 5: strong smart women will remember.
Speaker 1: And I'm proud to join the millions of smart, intelligent
Speaker 1: women who will stand with Donald Trump this Tuesday.
Speaker 3: So Sarah Huckabye Sanders there at the end. Governor of
Speaker 3: arkansaw Riley Gaines, was in there. Trump's campaign manager, who
Speaker 3: is a woman who has said nothing this entire campaign.
Speaker 3: Interesting oftentimes in presidential campaigns, the campaign manager is like
Speaker 3: the head surgate on all the talk shows. But Trump's
Speaker 3: woman has said nothing to anybody till yesterday. And she said, uh, hello, Annie,
Speaker 3: who is this mattered anybody? Is this a real flap?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Cuban says, I'll stick up for I'm
Speaker 3: not sticking up for him. I'll just pass along what
Speaker 3: he said.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not a strong, smart woman, so I hesitate
Speaker 1: to say how significant.
Speaker 2: It it is or isn't. Cuban said, I don't feel
Speaker 2: the insult. Cuban said, when.
Speaker 3: I said this during the interview, I didn't get it
Speaker 3: out exactly the way I thought it did. So I
Speaker 3: apologize to anyone who felt slighted or upset by my response.
Speaker 3: As I said, it wasn't about Trump voter supporters or employees,
Speaker 3: current or former.
Speaker 2: Well, what is it about?
Speaker 3: And I set myself up for the six second sound bite.
Speaker 3: No excuses, can't nail every any of you. My skin
Speaker 3: is thick enough.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that fairly manful statement. Here's here's the problem.
Speaker 1: And it has nothing to do with Mark Cuban specifically.
Speaker 1: I guess, well, I guess it does. I don't know, probably,
Speaker 1: And that is yet another condescening, condescending, judgment based argument
Speaker 1: for why you should vote one way or the other.
Speaker 1: He offered me nothing, just like Joe Biden saying the
Speaker 1: only garbage I say is fascist Jim Crow to a point,
Speaker 1: Oh blah blah blahla. It's all condescension and judgment. We're
Speaker 1: going to condescend our way to victory. We're going to
Speaker 1: shame black men into voting for Kamala Harris. We're gonna
Speaker 1: shame white women into voting for Kamala Harris. We're gonna
Speaker 1: shame all sorts of people into all. Right, we've had enough,
Speaker 1: We've had enough of the judgment.
Speaker 3: Does anybody vote for a particular candidate ever because somebody
Speaker 3: told you you're a bad person if you do.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Your week if you most of the strategy, are you
Speaker 1: a Nazi or are you going to vote for Kamala Harris?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, Now we know from text and emails that none
Speaker 3: of you want to hear a word about any particular poll.
Speaker 3: But overall, the art of polling continues to be interesting.
Speaker 3: Here's Nate Silver, who was ABC's go to polster for
Speaker 3: quite a few years running five thirty eight organization he
Speaker 3: started and then he left. That has his own thing
Speaker 3: now and he's pretty outspoken about the world of polling
Speaker 3: and he's considered one of the best at it.
Speaker 2: Anyway, he was on a podcast. Here's what he had
Speaker 2: to say. I kind of trust polsters less this they
Speaker 2: all every time a polster, Oh, every state is is
Speaker 2: just a plus.
Speaker 3: One every single state.
Speaker 2: It's a tie. No, you're hurting, you're cheating. You're cheating.
Speaker 3: Your numbers aren't.
Speaker 2: All gonna come out at exactly one point leads.
Speaker 3: When you're samp like eight hundred people over dozens of surveys,
Speaker 3: you are lying, You're putting a finger on the scale.
Speaker 3: I will not name names, but some pultures are really
Speaker 3: bad about this. So poling guro Nate Silver lashed out
Speaker 3: at other survey junkies in his field for cheating in
Speaker 3: the final stretch, accusing them of recycling results to keep
Speaker 3: the race between Trump and Kamala Harris close for their audience. Now,
Speaker 3: that's either because you think a close race is more
Speaker 3: exciting and you get more eyeballs, or because Trump's winning
Speaker 3: and that's not good for a lot of your viewers
Speaker 3: who that turns them off. The five thirty eight founder
Speaker 3: said irresponsible polsters were hurting their numbers or using past
Speaker 3: results to affect current ones.
Speaker 2: We talked about this a little earlier in the show
Speaker 2: show herding their numbers like you had heard cattle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can re explain that because I heard Chris
Speaker 3: stirewaldt use that term and talking about this yesterday. I
Speaker 3: didn't know this, but I guess in polling, it's really
Speaker 3: expensive to do good polling. And if you have a
Speaker 3: poll in the field and you're starting to get results
Speaker 3: back and they're way out of line with what other
Speaker 3: polling is, sometimes you think, oh, we've got our methodology wrong.
Speaker 3: We've got to obviously we've got something wrong here. Let's
Speaker 3: not waste more money on this. Let's fix our algorithm
Speaker 3: and then put the pull back out there well by definition,
Speaker 3: either on purpose or just because of what I just described,
Speaker 3: you could have poles missing movement, trying to get in
Speaker 3: line with past polls.
Speaker 1: All right, so you don't publish an embarrassing quote unquote outlier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it could work both ways.
Speaker 3: You could either have like Herd mentality where you're not
Speaker 3: on purpose following, but you are. Or you could push
Speaker 3: polls that direction because you want to result that's more
Speaker 3: in line with the other polls, or because you want
Speaker 3: it to be a little closer for one candidate because
Speaker 3: that's better for your network.
Speaker 2: There's lots of reasons you right, right.
Speaker 1: I hope I'm not stealing anybody's thunder, but I had
Speaker 1: a light bulb go off in my head. And for
Speaker 1: what it's worth, I've known people in the polling industry,
Speaker 1: and a lot of you are suspicious of them. It's
Speaker 1: not that they're biased, it's that they're wrong. I mean,
Speaker 1: with the Trump thing, the classically accepted definition of somebody
Speaker 1: who probably won't show up at the polls, Millions of
Speaker 1: those people showed up and surprised everybody. That's why Trump
Speaker 1: overperforms so much. But anyway, having said that, These people
Speaker 1: are desperate to be right. They make their living being right.
Speaker 1: But it just occurred to me mathematically, and Jack, you
Speaker 1: know more about this than me. But it's practically impossible
Speaker 1: if you have a margin of error of plus or
Speaker 1: minus three percent, that over and over again the results
Speaker 1: would be within one percent.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what he's saying. Okay, it's exactly what he's saying.
Speaker 3: He says, wouldn't it be a randomized yes spread yes,
Speaker 3: sometimes three, many times three low and everywhere it would
Speaker 3: be and everywhere in between.
Speaker 2: That's what the margin of air means. So yeah, he said,
Speaker 2: they are all.
Speaker 3: Every time a poster says, oh, every state is still
Speaker 3: plus one or whatever, the state's a tie, he said.
Speaker 2: No, you're effing hurting. You're cheating. You're cheating.
Speaker 3: Your numbers aren't going to all come out exactly one
Speaker 3: point leads when you're sampling eight hundred people over dozens
Speaker 3: of surveys with a plus three minus uh wow.
Speaker 2: Margin of air. You're lying.
Speaker 3: You're putting your effing finger on the scales.
Speaker 2: Now, whether that is for partisan reasons or or just you.
Speaker 1: Don't want to, as I said, publish the quote unquote
Speaker 1: embarrassing outlier poll.
Speaker 3: Wow and interesting, And in most situations you really don't
Speaker 3: want to have the outlier poll that's in favoring Trump.
Speaker 2: You really don't want that.
Speaker 3: Silver's own models put Trump ahead of Harris fifty five
Speaker 3: to forty five in terms of likelihood of winning.
Speaker 2: He's just doing a overall odds of winning.
Speaker 3: He has Trump fifty five Heri's forty five, which, of course.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: That's a good lead for Trump.
Speaker 3: But obviously if you got a forty five percent chance
Speaker 3: of something happening, it could happen quite easily.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: If I had a forty five percent chance of winning
Speaker 1: the lottery, I'd be very excited.
Speaker 2: Indeed. Okay, well, that's great.
Speaker 1: I appreciate mister Silver's honesty there and is calling out
Speaker 1: the other posters. We need more of that in America.
Speaker 1: Less running with the herd and more speaking your mind.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to speak my mind on a couple
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Speaker 1: It's Friday, and I don't feel like being angry. It's
Speaker 1: just it's not the vibe. Been a long week. I've
Speaker 1: actually made the plea to be put in a medically
Speaker 1: induced coma until after the election, just to save my sanity.
Speaker 3: I had candy for dinner last night because it was Halloween. Oh,
Speaker 3: I would feel so miserable. I did that, I did,
Speaker 3: I did. I went two big peanut butter cups. Then
Speaker 3: I had a full Snickers bar that was my healthy
Speaker 3: food because I had peanuts in it. Then I had
Speaker 3: just a classic Hershey's chocolate bar to top her off.
Speaker 2: Yes, Katie, I just want to let you know.
Speaker 6: A listener Joe heard you say that earlier and came
Speaker 6: at me on Twitter and said you better light them
Speaker 6: up for only candy for dinner, but God forbid a
Speaker 6: bag of chips?
Speaker 2: Jack, right right, right right? Yeah? Are you anti? Is that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: The ultra processed foods? Yeah? I don't. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Uh, you just have to learn to live with the enigma,
Speaker 1: that is, Jack.
Speaker 3: What we all need to learn to live with, most
Speaker 3: of us, some of you are super disciplined, is if
Speaker 3: it's around, you're so much more likely to eat it
Speaker 3: than if it's not. What if I have eaten peanut
Speaker 3: butter cups if they weren't in my home, of course,
Speaker 3: was I gonna get in my car and drive to
Speaker 3: the store and purchase being a butter cups.
Speaker 2: No, So, do you have a bunch of candy bars
Speaker 2: left over? Yes? Uh oh oh boy, and they're the
Speaker 2: king size. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Some homeless guy's about to get a pillowcase full of candy.
Speaker 3: That's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Wow, Well, good for him. I guess here you go,
Speaker 2: Meppy Joe, enjoy your day. So ah, he says, desperately,
Speaker 2: trying to move on.
Speaker 1: Sociologically, never mind politically. One more reason we've got to
Speaker 1: deny the progressives the seats of power. Muslim illegal immigrant
Speaker 1: shoots down a Jew for being a Jew, and nobody
Speaker 1: in the media wants to talk about it at all.
Speaker 2: And the mayor won't reference it either. There in Chicago.
Speaker 2: More on that. If you haven't heard it, it's quite amazing.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
Speaker 3: What does your plan we're looking for? Ex doctors, you
Speaker 3: still have the drugs around? Yeah, to put us into
Speaker 3: medically induced comas until after the election.
Speaker 2: That's correct.
Speaker 1: You were a bad doctor, lasked in your school, your
Speaker 1: class at medical school. You lost your license, but you
Speaker 1: got some of the drugs around. Yeah, I'd appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Just put me out for like the next four days
Speaker 1: or so.
Speaker 2: So it's funny.
Speaker 1: I feel so motive, motivating to talk about this, and
Speaker 1: yet I'm just I'm not in the right frame of mind.
Speaker 1: But there are a couple of notable stories, one in
Speaker 1: Chicago and one in the UK of all places, that
Speaker 1: both involve Muslim illegal immigrant. In the case of the
Speaker 1: Chicago shooting of a Jewish man merely for being Jewish.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize they had nailed down the immigration status
Speaker 3: because they kept the name quiet, they kept the religion quiet.
Speaker 3: And then there were people saying, how come we haven't
Speaker 3: heard anything about the immigration.
Speaker 2: Status, So now it's a.
Speaker 3: He's a Muslim with a Muslim sounding name and illegal
Speaker 3: kept all those things quiet.
Speaker 1: Who is twenty two year old Mauritanian muslimman who is
Speaker 1: detained then released at the San Diego sector, that's correct, Who.
Speaker 3: Was yelling Allah akbar in a shootout with police after
Speaker 3: shooting a Jewish fellow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which was a detail that some people are denying
Speaker 1: or trying to keep out of the story the discussion.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the commonality between this abhorrent, religion based
Speaker 1: hate crime in Chicago and the stabbings of the little
Speaker 1: girls in England, specifically Southport. The guy who did that,
Speaker 1: who the authorities in the press denied over and over again,
Speaker 1: was any sort of jihadi or Muslim or it's finally
Speaker 1: come out that he had Risen and al Qaeda training materials.
Speaker 2: Wow, and only.
Speaker 1: A moron would say wow. Therefore, every Muslim is a
Speaker 1: murderer and wants to stab little girls, and virtually nobody
Speaker 1: on earth leaps to that idiotic conclusion. This is more example,
Speaker 1: if we need it, of the utter condescension of the
Speaker 1: left toward anybody who isn't them. They think we're all
Speaker 1: cavemen running around grunting brutishly and can't think. But the
Speaker 1: absolute dishonesty of any time a white woman looks askance
Speaker 1: at a black man. We've all got to talk about
Speaker 1: it for two weeks. And racism toward black people is abhorrent.
Speaker 1: For the record, it's abhorrent and ugly. But the slightest
Speaker 1: hint of it. The President makes a statement from the
Speaker 1: Oval Office, the slightest hint yet, Jews get gunned down
Speaker 1: by Muslims and we're all told to go about our business.
Speaker 2: There's nothing to see here.
Speaker 1: I don't want those people in power anymore, whether they're
Speaker 1: in the media or the government. I don't know what
Speaker 1: about them to do about the the eye chais first Amendment,
Speaker 1: But by god, I'll fight him till I'm dead.
Speaker 2: That is something. I mean.
Speaker 3: You talk about a double standard, and imagine Remember how
Speaker 3: this story would have been covered twenty years ago, twenty
Speaker 3: three years ago, shortly after nine to eleven?
Speaker 2: Yeah appropriately, appropriately? Yes? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How about the people killed by the And thank god
Speaker 1: the Jewish man in Chicago survived barely, although his life
Speaker 1: will be changed forever, he will feel terrible and motional on.
Speaker 2: Physical pain until his dying day. It's worth remembering.
Speaker 1: But if our country is going to survive and thrive,
Speaker 1: the one thing we must have is the truth. We
Speaker 1: can't have the power brokers of information utterly dedicated to
Speaker 1: distorting and hiding the truth all the time.
Speaker 2: I won't have it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do about it again except
Speaker 1: to fight it. But it's utterly unacceptable.
Speaker 3: According to NBC, Chicago police said during a meeting with
Speaker 3: the group Monday that the guy did shout ala akbar
Speaker 3: while firing at officers. I mean, if that's the case,
Speaker 3: it's as clear cut as can be well we had
Speaker 3: going on.
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